Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
LOL -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tim C Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter On Nov 2, 2012 5:33 PM, Mitch Haley mlh m...@voyager.net@m...@voyager.net voyager.net m...@voyager.net wrote: Max Dillon wrote: Yes, that's quite sobering. Reminds me why I don't drive when it snows here. My brother hated winter driving in Virginia because the other drivers were scary in snow. In the Cary, NC the people who get stuck in the winter weather are the overconfident northerners. Three issues: 1) We have some serious hills. This especially bothers New York City/Jersey expats for some reason. 2) When it snows, the ground is almost always above freezing, and we usually have rain before snow. The base becomes ice as the temperature drops if the water isn't moving; in newer cities with marginal drainage this means thick ice in random places. When it starts cold and there is snow it is normal (versus Pennsylvania at least) and relatively easy to navigate, but that is very rare here in the center of the state. 3) A southern snow plow comes individually wrapped (I think you northerners call it a shovel, but for some reason I never saw the point). Salt is something that we use on our food, and anyway our trucks are built to not drop stuff everywhere. Thus, real southerners utilize technology to do their work from home, while their Boston-hailing bosses wait for the tow truck in the cold. (BTDT...) In the last real snow storm there were many stories of folks getting half way up a hill and then sliding back into a pile of cars and SUVs. No doubt there are some good YouTubes of it. Cary being Cary remember that half the people are from north of the Mason-Dixon and the other half are from India. Moral of the story, physics don' care who you is. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240V
On that note, I have a related question: I try to hook up a 30A/240V generator to my service panel trough a 2-pole breaker with fail safe main breaker lock-out (one has to be off before the other can be switched on). Manual calls for a 10-4 load cable and separate grounding of the gen. I can only find 10-3 cable. Since I go through my service panel where Neutral is grounded, why could I not combine Neutral and Ground in one wire and use the ground rod of the panel? On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:31 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Also, keep your cell phone charged and with you at all times and write your insurance agents number in ink on your arm... but.. go ahead... the Darwin Awards are always accepting new applications...;) Code books are cheapsuggest you want to own one. Grant... On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:29 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...Is it OK to run a 240v device on a 25 amp breaker through two parallel 14-2 NM romex instead of one 10-2 NM?.. Just place a smoke detector nearby. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240V
Hans Neureiter wrote: On that note, I have a related question: I try to hook up a 30A/240V generator to my service panel trough a 2-pole breaker with fail safe main breaker lock-out (one has to be off before the other can be switched on). Manual calls for a 10-4 load cable and separate grounding of the gen. I can only find 10-3 cable. Since I go through my service panel where Neutral is grounded, why could I not combine Neutral and Ground in one wire and use the ground rod of the panel? 10-3 usually means 3 live conductors plus ground. The outdoor stuff isn't cheap, but compared to a generator it's not that bad: http://www.menards.com/main/electrical/rough-electrical/wire-cable/10-3-25-uf-with-ground-wire/p-1469792-c-6441.htm That said, when hooking up a portable generator to the house, I'm dealing with an old genset with a three wire 240v outlet, so I just made an adapter cable to plug it in to the 3 wire dryer outlet, using a three wire replacement dryer cord. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240V
I can only find 10-3 cable. Since I go through my service panel where Neutral is grounded, why could I not combine Neutral and Ground in one wire and use the ground rod of the panel? I'm sure you could. The only reason for the fourth wire is if you should have a heavily-unbalanced load that caused the neutral to rise above ground potential more than a few volts, thus rendering the genny chassis 'warm' relative to the dirt it's sitting on. If it bugs you enough, run a separate ground wire. (Green is nice.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Todays job
I Will attest that proper install is key. Friend who does HVAC for a living helped me install. His comment when I set up and used nitrogen sweep prior to brazing: company makes all the technicians carry nitrogen, but very few use it. By the way, he is really good at brazing, what takes me an hour he gets done in minutes. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: The guys on HVAC-Talk bemoan the fact that there are no really good thermostatic expansion valves (TXVs) on the market now. Hmm, maybe not everybody says that. Here they seem to be saying that idiot technicians kill TXVs: http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/archive/index.php/t-150941.html Somebody on that thread also says that the Parker TXVs used by Goodman are some of the better ones. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240V
What bugs me is that my dear friend Master Electrician Speedy Kilowatt insists that what I am doing and essentially Mitch is doing is dangerous. He is mumbling of possible feedback of potential to the grid via the neutral wire. I don't see how a grounding I can establish is better than what the power company put in place. I think when electricians hear of an emergency generator they assume it is a stand-alone installation, i.e. then gen is hooked to a load with an extension cord. In this case I see the need for grounding the gen. Of course, feedback in this case is not possible, but I can become the grounding rod. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I can only find 10-3 cable. Since I go through my service panel where Neutral is grounded, why could I not combine Neutral and Ground in one wire and use the ground rod of the panel? I'm sure you could. The only reason for the fourth wire is if you should have a heavily-unbalanced load that caused the neutral to rise above ground potential more than a few volts, thus rendering the genny chassis 'warm' relative to the dirt it's sitting on. If it bugs you enough, run a separate ground wire. (Green is nice.) -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240V
I would suggest that you do not tie the generator ground into the grid service ground. Keeping the two systems apart once you flip the breaker to generator power. You can run a 4th wire for ground to the generator. It does not have to be a #10 wire. I believe a #12 would suffice. It should however be rated for the kind of service entrance you have if it's exposed to elements or in conduit.. your call on that. Check with your generator manufacturer on grounding of the generator, and just how it should be handled. Some require a ground post driven into the ground.. other are grounded internally to the frame. You have two separate electrical systems that can cross talk and cause you or someone else serious harm if not handled correctly. Grant.. [Has motorhome with generator and shore power, very similar switch arrangement] On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I can only find 10-3 cable. Since I go through my service panel where Neutral is grounded, why could I not combine Neutral and Ground in one wire and use the ground rod of the panel? I'm sure you could. The only reason for the fourth wire is if you should have a heavily-unbalanced load that caused the neutral to rise above ground potential more than a few volts, thus rendering the genny chassis 'warm' relative to the dirt it's sitting on. If it bugs you enough, run a separate ground wire. (Green is nice.) -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Todays job
And harder to stop. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Todays job I've had good experience with Trane. One relay replaced. After 15 years, heat pump model is still cooling well. Dealer said Trane uses off the shelf parts, so Tranes are cheaper to repair. Gerry In RE: Carrier and Goodman: Goodman is good, cheap stuff. Maybe thinner cabinet metal and louder operation, but performs as well and lasts as long as more expensive brands, assuming they are both installed correctly. The main problem with Goodman is they'll let their distributors sell their stuff to anybody, even me, so you're more likely to see a botched job with Goodman equipment in it. Carrier is not the gold standard IMO. Trane is. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5372 - Release Date: 11/03/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240V
What Dan said. Yes. Grant On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: According to the NEC the generator has to be grounded separately, as it is a separately derived source. This is why you will almost always see a ground lug on portable generators. I have a short grounding rod I use with my 6.5kW portable. If I am going to run it and connect loads from the house, it's tied to the grounding rod, not the house ground. Dan don't ask me how I know this former generator guy On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote: What bugs me is that my dear friend Master Electrician Speedy Kilowatt insists that what I am doing and essentially Mitch is doing is dangerous. He is mumbling of possible feedback of potential to the grid via the neutral wire. I don't see how a grounding I can establish is better than what the power company put in place. I think when electricians hear of an emergency generator they assume it is a stand-alone installation, i.e. then gen is hooked to a load with an extension cord. In this case I see the need for grounding the gen. Of course, feedback in this case is not possible, but I can become the grounding rod. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: I can only find 10-3 cable. Since I go through my service panel where Neutral is grounded, why could I not combine Neutral and Ground in one wire and use the ground rod of the panel? I'm sure you could. The only reason for the fourth wire is if you should have a heavily-unbalanced load that caused the neutral to rise above ground potential more than a few volts, thus rendering the genny chassis 'warm' relative to the dirt it's sitting on. If it bugs you enough, run a separate ground wire. (Green is nice.) -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240V
Not to muddy the electrical water, but neutral connections are a whole 'nother ball game. Overlapping switched neutrals, bonded neutrals, etc., etc. Don't get me started I would also add that backfeeding a distribution panel with a generator, even if you have an interlocking breaker, is inherently dangerous. Because you are not switching the neutral or ground when you do this, you are effectively allowing the full potential of the source (generator) to potentially pass through the ground or neutral of the whole distribution system in the event of a fault. You may also negate the operation of GFI devices as well. In a nutshell, don't do it. If you're so inclined, break out the circuits you want on the generator and isolate them with a knife switch or load rated disconnect. The backfeeding approach kills people. I have been an expert witness on more than one occasion to defend a generator manufacturer from litigation when people have done this and been killed. It's not pretty. Dan On Nov 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, G Mann wrote: What Dan said. Yes. Grant On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: According to the NEC the generator has to be grounded separately, as it is a separately derived source. This is why you will almost always see a ground lug on portable generators. I have a short grounding rod I use with my 6.5kW portable. If I am going to run it and connect loads from the house, it's tied to the grounding rod, not the house ground. Dan don't ask me how I know this former generator guy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Todays job
On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 08:49:32 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I Will attest that proper install is key. Friend who does HVAC for a living helped me install. His comment when I set up and used nitrogen sweep prior to brazing: company makes all the technicians carry nitrogen, but very few use it. By the way, he is really good at brazing, what takes me an hour he gets done in minutes. So, how did it go? Did you complete the installation? How well does it work? Yes, I know, questions, questions Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sandy
A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0853.jpeg Type: image/jpg Size: 465233 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20121029/2fadb038/attachment.jpg -- next part -- On Oct 29, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Things are just starting to ramp up as darkness falls. The rain is getting serious and the wind is starting to gust. I'm not seriously worried, we get some pretty good wind anyway. I bought a gallon of camp fuel, I usually keep 2 gallons on hand so this is just a backup, I've got 3 gallons of kerosene, 1 gallon of mix gas for the generator and a half dozen 1# cans of propane plus 3 gallons for the grill. I put the battery charger on my 110ah battery that will run lights and laptops, it was charged, which reminds me I should put it on my spare group 49 battery, suspenders and belt after all. The woodstove is lit, the wood room is about 3/4 full, the outside rack has a half cord under a tarp. In a minute I'm going to roast a chicken for dinner, bake bread and cook some turkey cutlets for lunch tomorrow. -Curt Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:57:24 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Sandy Message-ID: 20121028095724.977191614fed500572fe6...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII How are you all over on the east coast doing? What kind of preparations have you made? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
Back in the archives somewhere, there is a link to a map where list members pinned their location. It may have been Chuck Landenberger who started that. P.S. And in case you're wondering why I'm asking, I'm putting all this information into a file so I can figure out where people are. That is a great idea! Best, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Injector lines
77 300D NA Hope it helps! Tim -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_20121103_152248.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1365702 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20121103/bfa6e4bf/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_20121103_152255.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1167975 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20121103/bfa6e4bf/attachment-0001.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240V
Grounding has expanded over the years. Originally BX cable (metallic sheathed) and outlets were 2 prong. For 240V, the same type of wiring was used, beefier conductors for the 30A service to clothes driers and they were 3 prong outlets. . The metallic sheath effectively provided the ground and boxes were metal also. GFCI was around towards the end of these days. Neutral and ground were effectively tied together at the panel. When Romex (non-metallic sheathed) became popular and boxes went to plastic, a dedicated copper ground wire was used. While 3 prong 120V outlets have been around for a whlle, 240V lagged and driers still used no separate ground. Now 240V has caught up and its done with 4 prong outlets/cable, with separate ground and neutral. If you had an existing 10/3 generator cable I would use it. If you were buying new, I would buy 10/4. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not to muddy the electrical water, but neutral connections are a whole 'nother ball game. Overlapping switched neutrals, bonded neutrals, etc., etc. Don't get me started I would also add that backfeeding a distribution panel with a generator, even if you have an interlocking breaker, is inherently dangerous. Because you are not switching the neutral or ground when you do this, you are effectively allowing the full potential of the source (generator) to potentially pass through the ground or neutral of the whole distribution system in the event of a fault. You may also negate the operation of GFI devices as well. In a nutshell, don't do it. If you're so inclined, break out the circuits you want on the generator and isolate them with a knife switch or load rated disconnect. The backfeeding approach kills people. I have been an expert witness on more than one occasion to defend a generator manufacturer from litigation when people have done this and been killed. It's not pretty. Dan On Nov 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, G Mann wrote: What Dan said. Yes. Grant On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: According to the NEC the generator has to be grounded separately, as it is a separately derived source. This is why you will almost always see a ground lug on portable generators. I have a short grounding rod I use with my 6.5kW portable. If I am going to run it and connect loads from the house, it's tied to the grounding rod, not the house ground. Dan don't ask me how I know this former generator guy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Emergency power for a house [was: Re: 240V]
On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:56:01 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I would also add that backfeeding a distribution panel with a generator, even if you have an interlocking breaker, is inherently dangerous. So you are saying Reliance Controls should not have made and sold me the manual transfer panel, with interlocking breaker, I have installed at our house? Here's where I bought it; the Reliance Controls product page isn't responding at the moment. http://www.wayfair.com/Reliance-Controls-TWB-4-8-Circuit-200Amp-Transfer-Panel-Link-for-Generator-up-to-25000-Watt-TWB2010DR-RLC1055.html You may also negate the operation of GFI devices as well. GFCI devices do not need a ground to work properly, nor are they concerned about the potential on the neutral. They are only concerned about the balance of current between the line and neutral wires. In a nutshell, don't do it. If you're so inclined, break out the circuits you want on the generator and isolate them with a knife switch or load rated disconnect. The backfeeding approach kills people. I have been an expert witness on more than one occasion to defend a generator manufacturer from litigation when people have done this and been killed. It's not pretty. With a transfer panel, you are not backfeeding anything. In addition, our electrical service is grounded at three points: - the inside sub-panel installation that connects to the copper water pipes in the old part of the house, - the 50' long, separate, seamless tubing that supplies water to the new part of our house, and, - a ground rod at the outside transfer switch panel, which, under UL certification, is suitable for service entrance and may be used as a main panel or feed-through to a sub-panel. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240V
You can't have ground and neutral tied together at the panel now, only at the service entrance/main shutoff. --R On 11/4/12 10:33 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: Grounding has expanded over the years. Originally BX cable (metallic sheathed) and outlets were 2 prong. For 240V, the same type of wiring was used, beefier conductors for the 30A service to clothes driers and they were 3 prong outlets. . The metallic sheath effectively provided the ground and boxes were metal also. GFCI was around towards the end of these days. Neutral and ground were effectively tied together at the panel. When Romex (non-metallic sheathed) became popular and boxes went to plastic, a dedicated copper ground wire was used. While 3 prong 120V outlets have been around for a whlle, 240V lagged and driers still used no separate ground. Now 240V has caught up and its done with 4 prong outlets/cable, with separate ground and neutral. If you had an existing 10/3 generator cable I would use it. If you were buying new, I would buy 10/4. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Not to muddy the electrical water, but neutral connections are a whole 'nother ball game. Overlapping switched neutrals, bonded neutrals, etc., etc. Don't get me started I would also add that backfeeding a distribution panel with a generator, even if you have an interlocking breaker, is inherently dangerous. Because you are not switching the neutral or ground when you do this, you are effectively allowing the full potential of the source (generator) to potentially pass through the ground or neutral of the whole distribution system in the event of a fault. You may also negate the operation of GFI devices as well. In a nutshell, don't do it. If you're so inclined, break out the circuits you want on the generator and isolate them with a knife switch or load rated disconnect. The backfeeding approach kills people. I have been an expert witness on more than one occasion to defend a generator manufacturer from litigation when people have done this and been killed. It's not pretty. Dan On Nov 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, G Mann wrote: What Dan said. Yes. Grant On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: According to the NEC the generator has to be grounded separately, as it is a separately derived source. This is why you will almost always see a ground lug on portable generators. I have a short grounding rod I use with my 6.5kW portable. If I am going to run it and connect loads from the house, it's tied to the grounding rod, not the house ground. Dan don't ask me how I know this former generator guy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
The Northeast has plenty of hills, but for some reason, some locales don't drive well on them. Every time there is a up hill on I-495 around Boston, people slow down. I don't know if they're stupid or worried there little shitty cars will downshift to maintain speed. I can see a slowing down at high altitude, because so much of the engine's power is lost to altitude and it can be 2 gear downshift (i.e. running near redline) but high altitude doesn't exit in Massachusetts. On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the archives somewhere, there is a link to a map where list members pinned their location. It may have been Chuck Landenberger who started that. P.S. And in case you're wondering why I'm asking, I'm putting all this information into a file so I can figure out where people are. That is a great idea! Best, -Tim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
I suggested it and Chuck took up the mantle and did it. Rick Sent from my iPhone On Nov 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Back in the archives somewhere, there is a link to a map where list members pinned their location. It may have been Chuck Landenberger who started that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
Boston has the worst drivers of anywhere I have been (third world included). They tend to spill over to the rest of the state (and New Hampster) with their bad habits. --R On 11/4/12 10:41 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: The Northeast has plenty of hills, but for some reason, some locales don't drive well on them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240V
This is why one should have a properly installed transfer switch to use a generator for the house. That way whatever circuits you choose to power will be completely isolated from the main power grid while the generator is in use, and you won't electrocute a lineman nor try to run the entire neighborhood off a 5000 watt generator. Otherwise, use extension cords for specific appliances and don't use the house wiring at all. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240V
Amen. Dan On Nov 4, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: This is why one should have a properly installed transfer switch to use a generator for the house. That way whatever circuits you choose to power will be completely isolated from the main power grid while the generator is in use, and you won't electrocute a lineman nor try to run the entire neighborhood off a 5000 watt generator. Otherwise, use extension cords for specific appliances and don't use the house wiring at all. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Delivery valve seals in process
Finally have the parts for the DV seals, got everything apart, took out the first one and came in to check orientation and tension before I put it back together. So far so good. I did have to run out and buy a T30 torx bit, I was sure I had one... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Todays job
Or should I have taken that comparison to banned? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 3, 2012, at 13:37, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Stulz compared to Liebert? chuckle Just caught that Dan Also not tracking your comparison with Carrier, is that good or bad? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Joy! Is it a DX unit or a package unit? (I'm presuming DX with pre-charged lines?) I've heard that goodman is to carrier as stulz is to liebert. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Todays job
I've got some and I can tell you stories. Better buy triple-redundant and hope you'll have any redundancy. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Nov 3, 2012, at 13:47, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Sorry. Liebert is essentially the gold standard in the raised floor computer room/server farm environmental and electrical infrastructure. They make chillers and UPS systems that are probably used in 90% of the computer rooms in corporate America, if not worldwide. Stulz, well, suffice to say they're sort of the Yugo of the market, I guess. I don't know much about them, as I've never seen any of their equipment, but I have heard stories. Dan On Nov 3, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Craig wrote: On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 13:37:04 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Stulz compared to Liebert? chuckle Just caught that How about explaining it for those of us who are in the dark Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done
Okay I can see how people screw this job up. The first two (I started at the front and went rearward) went perfectly, got the holder, spring, copper washer out no problem. Third hole when I put the holder and spring on the spring somehow gets between the element and the side of the hole. I discover this when I can't tighten the holder down. Lesson #1: put the spring on top of the element, put the DV holder on top of that. I gently removed the spring while holding the element in place. Still managed to pull the little whatever it is off the top of the element. Got that back in place in the original orientation. Fortunately theres writing on there, fortunately I noted which way the writing went first. Fourth hole as I remove the holder I accidentally tip it because I'm trying to remove holder and socket at the same time, this causes the element to rise in the bore. Lesson #2: remove socket from DV holder, remove DV holder from bore straight up. This would be easier if the intake manifold weren't in the way. Immediately upon realizing whats happening I stop and reverse course. The element falls back into place looking satisfyingly normal. I'd read that sometimes it was hard to get the car to start after this job because the injection lines are all empty so I put the battery charger on the battery to give a good float charge before I started. That said I cranked with my foot to the floor for maybe 5 seconds before it started, it stumbled a bit at first but then settled down. Sounded weird as I had the airbox off. I wonder if the fact that all the bores were full of diesel and I left them full (which made a drippy mess in the driveway until I noticed and slid a pan under) helped. So anyway this project was wonderfully devoid of any excitement. Two of the o-rings were really shredded, the other two had triangular cross sections so clearly they all needed replacing. I would posit that the engine is slightly quieter now but we're talking about an OM601 with less than 200,000 miles on it, its pretty quiet to begin with... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...
http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965 I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down for DD use. Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my #22 head and new hx30.. Drool. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
Are you considering Rhode Island part of greater Boston? I consider RI drivers the worst in the world... -Curt Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 10:55:39 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter Message-ID: 50968ffb.6040...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Boston has the worst drivers of anywhere I have been (third world included). They tend to spill over to the rest of the state (and New Hampster) with their bad habits. --R On 11/4/12 10:41 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: The Northeast has plenty of hills, but for some reason, some locales don't drive well on them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
I have heard horror stories about Rhode Island drivers, but have never been in Rhode Island. Personally after seeing how bad Massachusetts drivers are, I think they have a lot of nerve badmouthing RI drivers. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you considering Rhode Island part of greater Boston? I consider RI drivers the worst in the world... -Curt Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 10:55:39 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter Message-ID: 50968ffb.6040...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Boston has the worst drivers of anywhere I have been (third world included). They tend to spill over to the rest of the state (and New Hampster) with their bad habits. --R On 11/4/12 10:41 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: The Northeast has plenty of hills, but for some reason, some locales don't drive well on them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done
It often helps to leave the injector lines loose at the injector and crank it over until they bleed diesel. Then tighten them up and the car should start easily. Far better than many seconds of cranking and waiting for a smooth idle. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Okay I can see how people screw this job up. The first two (I started at the front and went rearward) went perfectly, got the holder, spring, copper washer out no problem. Third hole when I put the holder and spring on the spring somehow gets between the element and the side of the hole. I discover this when I can't tighten the holder down. Lesson #1: put the spring on top of the element, put the DV holder on top of that. I gently removed the spring while holding the element in place. Still managed to pull the little whatever it is off the top of the element. Got that back in place in the original orientation. Fortunately theres writing on there, fortunately I noted which way the writing went first. Fourth hole as I remove the holder I accidentally tip it because I'm trying to remove holder and socket at the same time, this causes the element to rise in the bore. Lesson #2: remove socket from DV holder, remove DV holder from bore straight up. This would be easier if the intake manifold weren't in the way. Immediately upon realizing whats happening I stop and reverse course. The element falls back into place looking satisfyingly normal. I'd read that sometimes it was hard to get the car to start after this job because the injection lines are all empty so I put the battery charger on the battery to give a good float charge before I started. That said I cranked with my foot to the floor for maybe 5 seconds before it started, it stumbled a bit at first but then settled down. Sounded weird as I had the airbox off. I wonder if the fact that all the bores were full of diesel and I left them full (which made a drippy mess in the driveway until I noticed and slid a pan under) helped. So anyway this project was wonderfully devoid of any excitement. Two of the o-rings were really shredded, the other two had triangular cross sections so clearly they all needed replacing. I would posit that the engine is slightly quieter now but we're talking about an OM601 with less than 200,000 miles on it, its pretty quiet to begin with... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
RI is just a county of Mass. Gone totally downhill since Buddy Cianci died. --R On 11/4/12 3:24 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I have heard horror stories about Rhode Island drivers, but have never been in Rhode Island. Personally after seeing how bad Massachusetts drivers are, I think they have a lot of nerve badmouthing RI drivers. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you considering Rhode Island part of greater Boston? I consider RI drivers the worst in the world... -Curt Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 10:55:39 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter Message-ID: 50968ffb.6040...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Boston has the worst drivers of anywhere I have been (third world included). They tend to spill over to the rest of the state (and New Hampster) with their bad habits. --R On 11/4/12 10:41 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: The Northeast has plenty of hills, but for some reason, some locales don't drive well on them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Emergency power for a house [was: Re: 240V]
Craig wrote: In addition, our electrical service is grounded at three points: - the inside sub-panel installation that connects to the copper water pipes in the old part of the house, - the 50' long, separate, seamless tubing that supplies water to the new part of our house, and, - a ground rod at the outside transfer switch panel, which, under UL certification, is suitable for service entrance and may be used as a main panel or feed-through to a sub-panel. NEC says that's fine - IF the multiple grounds are tied together. From a lightning protection standpoint, one ground is better. Or really heavy cable tying the multiple grounds together. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...
Not bad at all. Sounds fun. Mike On Nov 4, 2012 3:16 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: http://www.superturbodiesel.**com/std/attachment.php?**thumbnail=5965http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965 I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down for DD use. Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my #22 head and new hx30.. Drool. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done
So anyway this project was wonderfully devoid of any excitement. Two of the o-rings were really shredded, the other two had triangular cross sections so clearly they all needed replacing. I would posit that the engine is slightly quieter now but we're talking about an OM601 with less than 200,000 miles on it, its pretty quiet to begin with... -Curt Attaboy! It is not hard. You just have to pay attention and be careful. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...
What is it that we are trying to look at? I can see the RPM but everything else is too fuzzy. THe link says thumbnail. Maybe the real thing is easier to read than the thumbnail. I presume the curves are torque and HP, but without units, it means nothing. http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965 I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down for DD use. Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my #22 head and new hx30.. Drool. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jeep u-joints
In that application I would say as long as they are a greasable joint the cheapo one should be just fine. You aren't running big tires or a locking differential in the front are you? Mike On Nov 4, 2012 3:24 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have experience with AutoZone u-joints? The front left axle joint was failing on mine. Searching AZ, Advance, O'Reilly's, CarQuest, and NAPA I could not find one that listed a Spicer (what the Jeep came with from the factory). I could have bought one from the dealer ($60-70) or online ($40) or I could have bought a McParts joints for $9-20. I opted for an AutoZone u-joint since I was also going to do use one of their 36 mm sockets to do the job. RR was pretty much what I expected. A big heavy hammer and sockets got it done. Thanks, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tools - was: Delivery valve seals in process
Curt Raymond wrote: I did have to run out and buy a T30 torx bit, I was sure I had one... Heh. You'll probably find it when you are putting your new one away. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Todays job
On Nov 3, 2012 9:59 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Here they seem to be saying that idiot technicians kill TXVs: http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/archive/index.php/t-150941.html Somebody on that thread also says that the Parker TXVs used by Goodman are some of the better ones. I did suggest he try another service company, but he didn't want to pay again. Guess that answers that. I will put a bug in his ear to start with someone else next time. Thanks for the pointer! -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...
Rolf wrote: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965 I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down for DD use. Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my #22 head and new hx30.. Drool. What is DD use? Dirty Diesel? Direct Drive? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jeep u-joints
Everything is factory. The new u-joint is non-greasable just like the factory originals. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: In that application I would say as long as they are a greasable joint the cheapo one should be just fine. You aren't running big tires or a locking differential in the front are you? Mike On Nov 4, 2012 3:24 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have experience with AutoZone u-joints? The front left axle joint was failing on mine. Searching AZ, Advance, O'Reilly's, CarQuest, and NAPA I could not find one that listed a Spicer (what the Jeep came with from the factory). I could have bought one from the dealer ($60-70) or online ($40) or I could have bought a McParts joints for $9-20. I opted for an AutoZone u-joint since I was also going to do use one of their 36 mm sockets to do the job. RR was pretty much what I expected. A big heavy hammer and sockets got it done. Thanks, Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
when did he die? according to wikipedia he was the mayor of providence in two separate administrations, each one ended with a felony convinction. his daughter died of an overdose. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: RI is just a county of Mass. Gone totally downhill since Buddy Cianci died. --R On 11/4/12 3:24 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: I have heard horror stories about Rhode Island drivers, but have never been in Rhode Island. Personally after seeing how bad Massachusetts drivers are, I think they have a lot of nerve badmouthing RI drivers. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you considering Rhode Island part of greater Boston? I consider RI drivers the worst in the world... -Curt Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 10:55:39 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.netrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter Message-ID: 50968FFB.6040206@**constructivity.net50968ffb.6040...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Boston has the worst drivers of anywhere I have been (third world included). They tend to spill over to the rest of the state (and New Hampster) with their bad habits. --R On 11/4/12 10:41 AM, Brian Toscano wrote: The Northeast has plenty of hills, but for some reason, some locales don't drive well on them. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] goodman heat pumps
Folks I've had good success with my Goodman unit at my beach house. It's probably about 13 years old and is run about 3 months of the year, mostly summer, in AC mode. I've only had to replace 2 starting capacitors in that time ...one in the air handler and one in the outside unit. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...
600hp 900nm. There isnt a link? Sent via string from my tin can. Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What is it that we are trying to look at? I can see the RPM but everything else is too fuzzy. THe link says thumbnail. Maybe the real thing is easier to read than the thumbnail. I presume the curves are torque and HP, but without units, it means nothing. http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965 I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down for DD use. Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my #22 head and new hx30.. Drool. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...
Daily driver. Stock is 70cc mine is set to deliver 100cc and with the turn of the alda screw 120cc. Dyno graph is for 180cc. Sent via string from my tin can. Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Rolf wrote: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965 I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down for DD use. Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my #22 head and new hx30.. Drool. What is DD use? Dirty Diesel? Direct Drive? --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jeep u-joints
It will ride much better without the front wheel flogging up and down as you drive! Easy replacement. Driveshafts are a bit more trouble, as they use a double u-joint so you have to replace two instead of one. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240V
If I turn off the two main breakers, why should I need any kind of a switch when I plug the two cords from my generator into the two primary circuits in the house? The only wire still connected to the power company is the ground/neutral at the main switch box. (I'm only running the fridge, lights, and computer with a small generator.) When I see the neighbors lights on, I unplug the generator and turn the mains back on. Gerrywho has used this arrangement for several power outages. From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Amen. Dan On Nov 4, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: This is why one should have a properly installed transfer switch to use a generator for the house. That way whatever circuits you choose to power will be completely isolated from the main power grid while the generator is in use, and you won't electrocute a lineman nor try to run the entire neighborhood off a 5000 watt generator. Otherwise, use extension cords for specific appliances and don't use the house wiring at all. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5373 - Release Date: 11/04/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Goodman etc.
That said the colleague got five plus years without any trouble or maintenance so... My AC system, a GE using R22, was installed in 1963. It is not a heat pump and it's evap is located in the ductwork above the furnace (Payne Plus 90) and has never had a repair. The refrigerant has been topped up twice and when the new gas furnace was installed in 2005 I asked the installer to check the refrigerant level. After putting the gauges on it, he said it needed nothing. My friend MJ who is in the commercial HVAC business in Ft. Lauderdale has told me that back in those days, GE was the best one on the market. That was then, of course but it seems to have come true. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dash cams
Now that you have seen all the awful accidents recorded in Russia, Google Chinese auto accidents which can be worse even without the snow. What makes it worse is the cars in China seems to be as crashworthy as eggs and the Russians with their old Ladas are about as bad. China has become a huge market for Porsche since the Chinese can just buy another Cayenne or Panamera when they destroy them. Locally built Buicks are also very popular with unskilled drivers. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Watch out for BC plates
...I have heard horror stories about Rhode Island drivers, but have never been in Rhode Island. Personally after seeing how bad Massachusetts drivers are, I think they have a lot of nerve badmouthing RI drivers... When I was a kid here in Seattle the worst drivers were in any car with British Columbia plates. These days, the BC container haulers making two trips a day from the ports of Seattle or Tacoma to Vancouver BC are the ones to watch for yellow tractors hauling container trailers. In the city of Vancouver the traditional terrors are those who moved there from Hong Kong with a boatload of cash and purchased a few 7-series or S-Classes and terrorize every one else. An old favorite is a left turn from the right lane without looking or signalling. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter with a camera on the dash and monkey in the boot
Nah, get one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6WB5YJia8 Hendrik who doesn't have a boot in his cars On 04/11/12 14:16, G Mann wrote: I've been looking at them and find several that have both front and rear facing cameras, both with GPS . speed information, time date stamp, etc recorded to a hard drive with hours of time available. Seems to me, it could be very handy to have, presuming you drive safely. If you speed or violate road laws, may not be so handy . One demo video I saw had a camera out the drivers window recording a police officer as he did his stop. Hm... We live in a complicated world, I suppose the camera could also be slaved into the alarm system as well, with motion triggers to camera up . Just a thought. Grant... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Watch out for BC plates
Like the cutaway they do on Family Guy about the Asian driver who cuts across 5 lanes of traffic without signaling Dan On Nov 4, 2012, at 6:47 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I have heard horror stories about Rhode Island drivers, but have never been in Rhode Island. Personally after seeing how bad Massachusetts drivers are, I think they have a lot of nerve badmouthing RI drivers... When I was a kid here in Seattle the worst drivers were in any car with British Columbia plates. These days, the BC container haulers making two trips a day from the ports of Seattle or Tacoma to Vancouver BC are the ones to watch for yellow tractors hauling container trailers. In the city of Vancouver the traditional terrors are those who moved there from Hong Kong with a boatload of cash and purchased a few 7-series or S-Classes and terrorize every one else. An old favorite is a left turn from the right lane without looking or signalling. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...
On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 15:45:27 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Rolf wrote: http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965 I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down for DD use. Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my #22 head and new hx30.. Drool. What is DD use? Dirty Diesel? Direct Drive? I would presume it's Daily Driver, but the acronymn is very obscure. And what is hx30? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Watch out for BC plates
The ones that make it pretty far inland seem to do OK. Personally I've found drivers in the Seattle area to be crazy regardless of where they're from. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:47 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I have heard horror stories about Rhode Island drivers, but have never been in Rhode Island. Personally after seeing how bad Massachusetts drivers are, I think they have a lot of nerve badmouthing RI drivers... When I was a kid here in Seattle the worst drivers were in any car with British Columbia plates. These days, the BC container haulers making two trips a day from the ports of Seattle or Tacoma to Vancouver BC are the ones to watch for yellow tractors hauling container trailers. In the city of Vancouver the traditional terrors are those who moved there from Hong Kong with a boatload of cash and purchased a few 7-series or S-Classes and terrorize every one else. An old favorite is a left turn from the right lane without looking or signalling. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jeep u-joints
The vibration at 50 MPH is pretty much gone. :-) I'll know more next time I take it on a trip. On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: It will ride much better without the front wheel flogging up and down as you drive! Easy replacement. Driveshafts are a bit more trouble, as they use a double u-joint so you have to replace two instead of one. Peter __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 84, Issue 19 Re: Rich Thomas Buddy Cianci
To set things straight Buddy Cianci is alive and well he does a political television commentary everyday on a local television station. As far as Rhode Island drivers go, I do not think they are the worst in the world but they are certainly close in the competition. Turn signals are for decoration and not to be used because of course everyone knows already where you are attempting to put your car. Speed limits are really just suggestions, and amber traffic lights are a challenge to the drivers ability to press down on the loud pedal. I of course always obey the speed limit and immediately stop when I encounter an amber light, yeah right!! I do however religiously use directional singles. I think I am an exception on that count. Thanks Ron Courcylife long Rhode Island driver ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter with a camera on the dash and monkey in the boot
Nah, get one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6WB5YJia8 Hendrik who doesn't have a boot in his cars Don't you have boot boobies down under? Or boot dingos? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter with a camera on the dash and monkey in the boot
Umnh, not quite sure what you mean by boot boobies I can only assume, knowing that you are a God fearing decent sort of a fella, that you meant bobbies, as in English policemen. We actually use the term coppers for our new look stormtroopers http://www.sapolicenews.com.au/component/content/article/4-news/10475-out-with-the-old-in-with-the-dark-blue.html Hendrik who would check for boot dingos if he had a boot to check On 05/11/12 10:59, Dieselhead wrote: Nah, get one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6WB5YJia8 Hendrik who doesn't have a boot in his cars Don't you have boot boobies down under? Or boot dingos? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 84, Issue 19 Re: Rich Thomas Buddy Cianci
Personally I dislike turn signals unless they add extra visibility in inclement weather. I don't see how they provide any useful information. Then again, I come from a state where they aren't required in all circumstances. :-) On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Ronald Courcy tron...@hotmail.com wrote: To set things straight Buddy Cianci is alive and well he does a political television commentary everyday on a local television station. As far as Rhode Island drivers go, I do not think they are the worst in the world but they are certainly close in the competition. Turn signals are for decoration and not to be used because of course everyone knows already where you are attempting to put your car. Speed limits are really just suggestions, and amber traffic lights are a challenge to the drivers ability to press down on the loud pedal. I of course always obey the speed limit and immediately stop when I encounter an amber light, yeah right!! I do however religiously use directional singles. I think I am an exception on that count. Thanks Ron Courcylife long Rhode Island driver ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 107 trans
#1 daughter called and said she had been out driving earlier this afternoon, came home, and left again. When she turned onto the major highway, the car would not shift out of low. She tried turning the car off and restarting. The fluid was between the min and max marks. Fluid and filter were changed a year ago. 1985 380SL Neutral (Park) safety switch is getting flakey, but works after the shifter is run down and back. Kinda sounds like the 124 elring filter collapse. But I never heard of that in a 107, or anything but a 124. Anyone else have any other ideas? total vacuum failure (unhooked hose to modulator) should result in very harsh and high RPM shifts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 trans
Filter and fluid change is cheap and easy. Plugged fuel filters can affect Trans shifting in diesels. On Sunday, November 4, 2012, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: #1 daughter called and said she had been out driving earlier this afternoon, came home, and left again. When she turned onto the major highway, the car would not shift out of low. She tried turning the car off and restarting. The fluid was between the min and max marks. Fluid and filter were changed a year ago. 1985 380SL Neutral (Park) safety switch is getting flakey, but works after the shifter is run down and back. Kinda sounds like the 124 elring filter collapse. But I never heard of that in a 107, or anything but a 124. Anyone else have any other ideas? total vacuum failure (unhooked hose to modulator) should result in very harsh and high RPM shifts. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT POLITICS In depth interview of Ohne Romney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmZ6ulUpeuMfeature=related Hendrik who wants to give y'all a pat on the back for managing to keep politics off the list ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sandy
That looks a little like my yard in Niceville FL after a small cat 1 storm. The only government assistance was from the county; they contracted to haul off debris after you piled it at the edge of the street. I had 110 ft of frontage piled up to the CATV cables (except at the driveway) after several storms. It was chain-saw serenade from sunup to sundown for a week. I live inland in NC now and I don't miss those days. I must be getting old. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jon Agne Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sandy A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_0853.jpeg Type: image/jpg Size: 465233 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/201210 29/2fadb038/attachment.jpg -- next part -- On Oct 29, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Things are just starting to ramp up as darkness falls. The rain is getting serious and the wind is starting to gust. I'm not seriously worried, we get some pretty good wind anyway. I bought a gallon of camp fuel, I usually keep 2 gallons on hand so this is just a backup, I've got 3 gallons of kerosene, 1 gallon of mix gas for the generator and a half dozen 1# cans of propane plus 3 gallons for the grill. I put the battery charger on my 110ah battery that will run lights and laptops, it was charged, which reminds me I should put it on my spare group 49 battery, suspenders and belt after all. The woodstove is lit, the wood room is about 3/4 full, the outside rack has a half cord under a tarp. In a minute I'm going to roast a chicken for dinner, bake bread and cook some turkey cutlets for lunch tomorrow. -Curt Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:57:24 -0600 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Sandy Message-ID: 20121028095724.977191614fed500572fe6...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII How are you all over on the east coast doing? What kind of preparations have you made? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 trans
Filter and fluid change is cheap and easy. Plugged fuel filters can affect Trans shifting in diesels. On Sunday, November 4, 2012, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: #1 daughter called and said she had been out driving earlier this afternoon, came home, and left again. When she turned onto the major highway, the car would not shift out of low. She tried turning the car off and restarting. The fluid was between the min and max marks. Fluid and filter were changed a year ago. 1985 380SL Neutral (Park) safety switch is getting flakey, but works after the shifter is run down and back. Kinda sounds like the 124 elring filter collapse. But I never heard of that in a 107, or anything but a 124. Anyone else have any other ideas? total vacuum failure (unhooked hose to modulator) should result in very harsh and high RPM shifts. Forgot to add that it will go forward and in reverse. What is the failure mode of a modulator? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240V
On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 16:42:19 -0500 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: If I turn off the two main breakers, why should I need any kind of a switch when I plug the two cords from my generator into the two primary circuits in the house? The only wire still connected to the power company is the ground/neutral at the main switch box. (I'm only running the fridge, lights, and computer with a small generator.) When I see the neighbors lights on, I unplug the generator and turn the mains back on. Gerrywho has used this arrangement for several power outages. That sequence of connections is actually what a transfer switch does, but it does it in a way that makes mistakes impossible. If you make a mistake in your procedure, you leave yourself open to very high legal liability. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Todays job
Carrier is not the gold standard IMO. Trane is. FYI American Standard is the plain Jane version of Trane. It has all the identical guts of the Cadillac Trane in a Chevy trim. I'm delighted with mine. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 7:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Todays job Dan Penoff wrote: Sorry. Liebert is essentially the gold standard in the raised floor computer room/server farm environmental and electrical infrastructure. They make chillers and UPS systems that are probably used in 90% of the computer rooms in corporate America, if not worldwide. Stulz, well, suffice to say they're sort of the Yugo of the market, I guess. I don't know much about them, as I've never seen any of their equipment, but I have heard stories. In RE: Carrier and Goodman: Goodman is good, cheap stuff. Maybe thinner cabinet metal and louder operation, but performs as well and lasts as long as more expensive brands, assuming they are both installed correctly. The main problem with Goodman is they'll let their distributors sell their stuff to anybody, even me, so you're more likely to see a botched job with Goodman equipment in it. Carrier is not the gold standard IMO. Trane is. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done
I'd considered that and might have tried if the car hadn't started so easily, I don't consider 5 seconds to be a big deal... -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 13:26:47 -0700 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done Message-ID: cacncphmwdhw1e+suuyk2kbvkvdhmv2vxvd3mmcd5yo9hysf...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It often helps to leave the injector lines loose at the injector and crank it over until they bleed diesel. Then tighten them up and the car should start easily. Far better than many seconds of cranking and waiting for a smooth idle. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
Buddy isn't dead, he was on the radio just the other day... http://www.buddycianci.com/ -Curt Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 15:37:52 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter Message-ID: 5096d220.2050...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed RI is just a county of Mass. Gone totally downhill since Buddy Cianci died. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done
Yeah I kind of worry about things... This time took me maybe 3 hours, having done it once I could do it again in 2. I'd remove the intake manifold next time for sure. One other thing I forgot to note is to pay attention to the size of your torque wrench. Fortunately Fred had sent one along, mine is too long and wouldn't have worked for this job without removing the intake manifold which I was not prepared (ie no replacement gasket) for. -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 15:21:10 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done Message-ID: a06240807ccbc8ca162d9@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed So anyway this project was wonderfully devoid of any excitement. Two of the o-rings were really shredded, the other two had triangular cross sections so clearly they all needed replacing. I would posit that the engine is slightly quieter now but we're talking about an OM601 with less than 200,000 miles on it, its pretty quiet to begin with... -Curt Attaboy! It is not hard. You just have to pay attention and be careful. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL TRUCK with Deutz air cooled engine
Awesome truck. If I'm honest its not a great ad. If you really want to sell it at least clear the junk out of it. If you really, really want to sell it invest in a battery so its running. Those are my two biggest pet peeves about Craiglist ads. A picture of the engine would probably help too. Your pics are decent but I think you're looking at a fairly narrow market for this, you need to court people a little. -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:55:43 -0500 From: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] CL TRUCK with Deutz air cooled engine Message-ID: fd05666e-3076-4c18-a007-6b0d19809...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII;format=flowed Folks Here's an interesting CL post http://athensga.craigslist.org/cto/3386680136.html and this one IS mine!! It's a good truck i replaced it with a 1991 Isuzu NPR Special price on the Iveco for list members!! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 trans
My '96 Dodge Dakota did that, Angie drove all the way home in low one day, boy she was happy with me... I sucked a quart of fluid out with my topsider and put in a quart of the Lucas trans stuff. Flailed it around for a half an hour, let it sit over night and the next day it was improved. It improved more over the next couple days until it was basically normal. I had a filter and fluid and it went another 20,000 miles. My best guess was it had a sticky valve and the high detergent (even for ATF) Lucas stuff helped flush it out. Maybe get her to try slipping it into neutral while moving and then back into drive, that helped on my Dakota. -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:05:52 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 107 trans Message-ID: a0624080cccbcbef7dc3b@[192.168.1.51] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed #1 daughter called and said she had been out driving earlier this afternoon, came home, and left again. When she turned onto the major highway, the car would not shift out of low. She tried turning the car off and restarting. The fluid was between the min and max marks. Fluid and filter were changed a year ago. 1985 380SL Neutral (Park) safety switch is getting flakey, but works after the shifter is run down and back. Kinda sounds like the 124 elring filter collapse. But I never heard of that in a 107, or anything but a 124. Anyone else have any other ideas? total vacuum failure (unhooked hose to modulator) should result in very harsh and high RPM shifts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL TRUCK with Deutz air cooled engine
They are a great truck. I had an Iveco cabover with a water cooled Deutz. Solid 20mpg heavy duty truck. What is top speed for this model? Wish I had the cash, mine was rusty and a rusty Iveco is an expensive Iveco. That would make a very nice rv/trailer hauler. Lookin' for any trades? Just what is list price? Mike On Nov 4, 2012 9:53 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Awesome truck. If I'm honest its not a great ad. If you really want to sell it at least clear the junk out of it. If you really, really want to sell it invest in a battery so its running. Those are my two biggest pet peeves about Craiglist ads. A picture of the engine would probably help too. Your pics are decent but I think you're looking at a fairly narrow market for this, you need to court people a little. -Curt Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:55:43 -0500 From: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] CL TRUCK with Deutz air cooled engine Message-ID: fd05666e-3076-4c18-a007-6b0d19809...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII;format=flowed Folks Here's an interesting CL post http://athensga.craigslist.org/cto/3386680136.html and this one IS mine!! It's a good truck i replaced it with a 1991 Isuzu NPR Special price on the Iveco for list members!! thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Goodman etc.
You should call GE and Guinness! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD relng...@aol.com wrote: That said the colleague got five plus years without any trouble or maintenance so... My AC system, a GE using R22, was installed in 1963. It is not a heat pump and it's evap is located in the ductwork above the furnace (Payne Plus 90) and has never had a repair. The refrigerant has been topped up twice and when the new gas furnace was installed in 2005 I asked the installer to check the refrigerant level. After putting the gauges on it, he said it needed nothing. My friend MJ who is in the commercial HVAC business in Ft. Lauderdale has told me that back in those days, GE was the best one on the market. That was then, of course but it seems to have come true. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT CL Ads Was CL TRUCK
On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: If I'm honest its not a great ad. If you really want to sell it at least clear the junk out of it. If you really, really want to sell it invest in a battery so its running. Those are my two biggest pet peeves about Craiglist ads. So what makes good advertising copy? What entices people to make a purchase? I have been trying to sell a wood stove on CL for three months with NO success. As Rod Blagojevic said This thing is f'ing golden, I'm not going to just give it away. http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380182153.html http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380184075.html That said I really do want to clear my storage space of this crap. What am I doing wrong? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Todays job
Late start on Saturday, full day today, have only two copper lines to braze to the new air handler, then electrical connections, then drain line. Of course, once the brazing is complete, then pressure and vacuum testing of the new lines. Yesterday I thought I'd done a good job brazing the connections at the outside unit, but I had not. Moved the unit a little, joint failed. Went back to brazing school, read a few articles, watched a you-tube video, switched to my oxygen-MAPP torch, practiced on a piece of scrap. Figured out what I had done wrong (not enough heat), corrected that and got those two joints done. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: So, how did it go? Did you complete the installation? How well does it work? Yes, I know, questions, questions Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
hi Clay! i've no idea what a Gump is,... but would be curious to hear a breakdown of which of those failures you had on which model. the large majority of BioD users here in the Berkeley fleet is running 616s and 617s because they have a reputation for handling Biofuels so well; i'm wondering if this might be an example of how well-deserved that reputation is. cheers! e On 31/Oct/12 20:28, clay monroe wrote: I am happy you have had such success. I have not had that experience myself, so have made recommendation based on the repairs I have made myself or paid to have done. The hoses I replaces where not old, but new viton from the dealership I bought by the meter. Other rubber parts were either dealer or Rusty parts. I also received feedback from two local BioD resellers on issues related to the use of B100 and from Chris Goodwin, who runs Frybrid.com and worked on the cars to fix the issues related to B100 usage. BTW, I have been using BioD for a decade myself. Once I reduced the amount of BioD in the tank, my issues no longer plagued me. The stuff is not small scale production, but from major producers from both the midwest as well as Imperium, Sustainable, Propel, and other larger local refiners. Must be the #2 that caused my issues clay On Oct 30, 2012, at 9:11 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: Clay, i don't know where you got this from, but these concerns range from grossly exaggerated to simply untrue. i've got over 80K miles on almost exclusively straight BioD in my W123 over the last 8 years or so, and i'm one of only thousands here in the Bay Area alone that have done so without problem. i didn't replace any fuel lines; decided i'd wait to see how much truth there might be behind the alleged need for it, since it wasn't like fuel line failures are sudden or catastrophic and i would be watching fuel lines in any old diesel vehicle anyway. when the Return Lines *finally* began to show just the tiniest hint of seepage this year, i finally replaced them; all the rest of the lines look good, and i have no idea how old any of them were when i first got the car with ~120K on it. i don't know what's allegedly supposed to happen to the IP or the injectors, but i haven't seen or heard of it happening to any of the BioD MBZs in the BioD fleet here yet. one of the reasons the MBZs are so popular for this sort of stuff is specifically because the inline IPs are so robust. to the contrary, some people claim that the lubricity of BioD is *easier* on the injection parts than #2. i have no idea what BioD could do to a metal fuel tank, and have never before heard of any issue or concern related to such. the one thing i do see yield to BioD is the insulating ring around the filler pipe; i've replaced the one in our car twice in the last 8 years. (it's not like that's a big deal; it's just ugly.) as for it running just as quiet at B2 as with more, i don't have great hearing, but i'd have to differ there too,.. but that's not why i'm running it. cheers! e '85 300D 200K+ miles (80K+ on B99) On 30/Oct/12 16:48, clay monroe wrote: Do not run B100. It will eat your rubber parts and destroy your pocketbook. IP DV seals, injectors, fuel tank and hoses. B20 is the strongest I would advise. Much over B5 does not increase the benefit to the engine or cleaning up gunk. Put a gallon in your tank from a 5 gallon container when you fill up. B5 also gives you the mileage you expect while increasing cetane. Not enough BTU in higher concentrations to improve power or MPG. It runs just as quiet at B2 as with more. You could run veggie oil for the same impact on cetane and smoothness clay On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Jon Agne wrote: I stopped by there today on my way back from NYC (story in itself). They have two blends, B5 and B100. The B100 pump is around back, drive around the left side and back into it. The guys are very helpful, and they mentioned to me that they get from Mainehmmm. The car did seem to run smoother/quieter, and I did not notice any difference in performance. On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The owner is a bit odd but the guys working there are nice. Did they say when the BD pump will be turned off? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...) Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there. -Curt Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:43:00 -0400 From: Jon Agnejonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel Message-ID:d8b20cbc-7572-421d-8266-3d09cefa3...@gwi.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of Long Island. On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton? Sent
Re: [MBZ] OT CL Ads Was CL TRUCK
On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 21:35:14 -0600 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380182153.html In the ad title, you say, $400. Near the bottom of the text, you say, If I do it, the price will go up. $400.00. So the price will go up from $400 to $400? Put half-an-hour into cleaning out the ashes, scraping the surfaces with a welder's brush and spraying $7 of high-temperature black paint on it. Get the other stuff out of pictures 3 and 5 unless it goes with the stove, in which case bring it from the background into the foreground. Get better lighting, the shadows don't help. And what is that in picture 6? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?
I'm starting to realize more and more that I need a means to transport larger items. The 240D is not cutting itas it is. Is it realistic to put a tow hitch on such an underpowered vehicle. I'm not talking about towing anything really heavy here. Maybe a couch or a washer or something like that. What kind of hitch? Where would it get mounted? What about a trailer? The other option would be to buy a 123diesel wagonbut I'm not particularly thrilled about adding another car to my unsustainable old car fleet. An early G wagen diesel with a manny tranny would be even nicer but a bit pricey and hard to come by. Thoughts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 107 trans
Check to make sure the kickdown switch isn't stuck, too. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?
A coleman versatrailer is light and quite handy. For what you are mentioning, it would be ideal. Very versatile. Any reputable trailer hitch place should be able to install a hitch. 1 1/4 receiver is a good size, but they rarely stay removable. My van had one and it took a lot of beating (with a 10 pounder) to get a hitch into it. The hitch is never coming out of the receiver. they will be melted together when the van is melted for steel. 2 receiver is nice, but heavier than necessary. A small bumper hitch might be a good solution. I'm starting to realize more and more that I need a means to transport larger items. The 240D is not cutting itas it is. Is it realistic to put a tow hitch on such an underpowered vehicle. I'm not talking about towing anything really heavy here. Maybe a couch or a washer or something like that. What kind of hitch? Where would it get mounted? What about a trailer? The other option would be to buy a 123diesel wagonbut I'm not particularly thrilled about adding another car to my unsustainable old car fleet. An early G wagen diesel with a manny tranny would be even nicer but a bit pricey and hard to come by. Thoughts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My gas furnace
Brain fade. My furnace is a Trane XL90, not a Payne etc. Not that irt matters... RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
Gump was the 72 220D. She died a noble death when metal fatigue took out the cam supports 220D was given fresh fuel return lines within two weeks of purchase. These failed within 14 months with B100 use. Daily driver, so much fuel went through them. Fuel lines from the fuel tank as well as the 90* lines up front failed during that time. Second installation of return lines which lasted another 25 months. Cigar hose went smushy, as well as taking out the fuel filter gaskets. Return lines dissolved and sent snot into injectors. I had those rebuilt. Toward the end of the life of the second return lines I stopped using higher than B20. Four years into my ownership, after I had stopped using so much B100, I had to do DV, since they were spewing fuel. IP was being overloaded with BioD, so I had to change out IP oil twice as often as I did engine oil. E300D was sourced in 2003. She had been given fresh return lines, DV seals, 5k miles prior to my purchase. Was running B100 in her during the same period as the 220D. SWMBA was the primary driver. This was the heyday of the B100 Mania in town. Most of the stuff was coming in from the midwest and going to indy as well as big oil locations. Local large producers were just getting plants built. Oregon firms were pumping stuff they made. SWMBA has family down that way, so we filled up when there. Had her a year or so before rubber started to fail. Spent the summer touring Mid-Atlantic and SE states, so not filling with anything but #2 for three months, then went back to high BioD in the fall. Returns and fuel lines began leaking, which made a stink in the cabin. SWMBA did not enjoy this, so the car went to the shop for fresh fuel bits. New rubber lines all over and all was well for another year. Fuel filter seals fail, return lines perforated, and fuel is leaking into the injector wells and filling to the point it ate the valve cover gasket. Sloshing fuel also ate the fuel filler gasket. Trunk and engine bay stink of fuel, as well as polluting the cabin. More shop time to replace that mess. Within six month, the DV seals fail. SWMBA no longer purchases BioD, and forbids me to purchase it for that car. All the damage and issues from using BioD sour her on the E300D, so she decides to purchase a korean car. When the 220D dies, I end up using the ED and in the past three years have not had any issues related to fuel or rubber. clay On Nov 4, 2012, at 7:53 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: hi Clay! i've no idea what a Gump is,... but would be curious to hear a breakdown of which of those failures you had on which model. the large majority of BioD users here in the Berkeley fleet is running 616s and 617s because they have a reputation for handling Biofuels so well; i'm wondering if this might be an example of how well-deserved that reputation is. cheers! e On 31/Oct/12 20:28, clay monroe wrote: I am happy you have had such success. I have not had that experience myself, so have made recommendation based on the repairs I have made myself or paid to have done. The hoses I replaces where not old, but new viton from the dealership I bought by the meter. Other rubber parts were either dealer or Rusty parts. I also received feedback from two local BioD resellers on issues related to the use of B100 and from Chris Goodwin, who runs Frybrid.com and worked on the cars to fix the issues related to B100 usage. BTW, I have been using BioD for a decade myself. Once I reduced the amount of BioD in the tank, my issues no longer plagued me. The stuff is not small scale production, but from major producers from both the midwest as well as Imperium, Sustainable, Propel, and other larger local refiners. Must be the #2 that caused my issues clay On Oct 30, 2012, at 9:11 PM, ernest breakfield wrote: Clay, i don't know where you got this from, but these concerns range from grossly exaggerated to simply untrue. i've got over 80K miles on almost exclusively straight BioD in my W123 over the last 8 years or so, and i'm one of only thousands here in the Bay Area alone that have done so without problem. i didn't replace any fuel lines; decided i'd wait to see how much truth there might be behind the alleged need for it, since it wasn't like fuel line failures are sudden or catastrophic and i would be watching fuel lines in any old diesel vehicle anyway. when the Return Lines *finally* began to show just the tiniest hint of seepage this year, i finally replaced them; all the rest of the lines look good, and i have no idea how old any of them were when i first got the car with ~120K on it. i don't know what's allegedly supposed to happen to the IP or the injectors, but i haven't seen or heard of it happening to any of the BioD MBZs in the BioD fleet here yet. one of the reasons the MBZs are so popular for this sort of
Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?
You should be able to get a hitch in there. It would likely be mounted under the trunk, straddling the fuel tank and bolted to the sheet metal of the trunk. U-haul shop figures it out. My sister had one added to her 1999 volvo wagon this summer for about $400. Might need all of a 1.5 ball, but you may need to upgrade the springs in the rear for heavy hauling so the tongue does not drag the back end down. Since you are going to be pretty close to the ground, you would be able to use those HF trailers with bagel wheels. clay On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I'm starting to realize more and more that I need a means to transport larger items. The 240D is not cutting itas it is. Is it realistic to put a tow hitch on such an underpowered vehicle. I'm not talking about towing anything really heavy here. Maybe a couch or a washer or something like that. What kind of hitch? Where would it get mounted? What about a trailer? The other option would be to buy a 123diesel wagonbut I'm not particularly thrilled about adding another car to my unsustainable old car fleet. An early G wagen diesel with a manny tranny would be even nicer but a bit pricey and hard to come by. Thoughts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com