Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-04 Thread TE
LOL

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On Nov 2, 2012 5:33 PM, Mitch Haley mlh
m...@voyager.net@m...@voyager.net
voyager.net m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Max Dillon wrote:

 Yes, that's quite sobering.  Reminds me why I don't drive when it 
 snows
here.


 My brother hated winter driving in Virginia because the other drivers
were scary in snow.

In the Cary, NC the people who get stuck in the winter weather are the
overconfident northerners.  Three issues:
1) We have some serious hills.  This especially bothers New York City/Jersey
expats for some reason.
2) When it snows, the ground is almost always above freezing, and we usually
have rain before snow.  The base becomes ice as the temperature drops if the
water isn't moving; in newer cities with marginal drainage this means thick
ice in random places.  When it starts cold and there is snow it is normal
(versus Pennsylvania at least) and relatively easy to navigate, but that is
very rare here in the center of the state.
3) A southern snow plow comes individually wrapped (I think you northerners
call it a shovel, but for some reason I never saw the point).  Salt is
something that we use on our food, and anyway our trucks are built to not
drop stuff everywhere.  Thus, real southerners utilize technology to do
their work from home, while their Boston-hailing bosses wait for the tow
truck in the cold. (BTDT...)

In the last real snow storm there were many stories of folks getting half
way up a hill and then sliding back into a pile of cars and SUVs.  No doubt
there are some good YouTubes of it.  Cary being Cary remember that half the
people are from north of the Mason-Dixon and the other half are from India.

Moral of the story, physics don' care who you is.

Best,
Tim


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Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-04 Thread Hans Neureiter
On that note, I have a related question:
I try to hook up a 30A/240V generator to my service panel trough a 2-pole
breaker with fail safe main breaker lock-out (one has to be off before the
other can be switched on).
Manual calls for a 10-4 load cable and separate grounding of the gen.
I can only find 10-3 cable. Since I go through my service panel where
Neutral is grounded, why could I not combine Neutral and Ground in one wire
and use the ground rod of the panel?

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:31 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, keep your cell phone charged and with you at all times and write your
 insurance agents number in ink on your arm... but.. go ahead... the Darwin
 Awards are always accepting new applications...;) Code books are
 cheapsuggest you want to own one.

 Grant...

 On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 3:29 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

   ...Is it OK to run a 240v device on a 25 amp breaker through two
 parallel
   14-2 NM
   romex instead of one 10-2 NM?..
  
  Just place a smoke detector nearby.
 
  RLE
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-04 Thread Mitch Haley

Hans Neureiter wrote:

On that note, I have a related question:
I try to hook up a 30A/240V generator to my service panel trough a 2-pole
breaker with fail safe main breaker lock-out (one has to be off before the
other can be switched on).
Manual calls for a 10-4 load cable and separate grounding of the gen.
I can only find 10-3 cable. Since I go through my service panel where
Neutral is grounded, why could I not combine Neutral and Ground in one wire
and use the ground rod of the panel?


10-3 usually means 3 live conductors plus ground.
The outdoor stuff isn't cheap, but compared to a generator it's not that bad:
http://www.menards.com/main/electrical/rough-electrical/wire-cable/10-3-25-uf-with-ground-wire/p-1469792-c-6441.htm

That said, when hooking up a portable generator to the house, I'm dealing with 
an old genset with a three wire 240v outlet, so I just made an adapter cable to 
plug it in to the 3 wire dryer outlet, using a three wire replacement dryer cord.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-04 Thread Jim Cathey

I can only find 10-3 cable. Since I go through my service panel where
Neutral is grounded, why could I not combine Neutral and Ground in one 
wire

and use the ground rod of the panel?


I'm sure you could.  The only reason for the fourth
wire is if you should have a heavily-unbalanced load
that caused the neutral to rise above ground potential
more than a few volts, thus rendering the genny chassis
'warm' relative to the dirt it's sitting on.  If it bugs
you enough, run a separate ground wire.  (Green is nice.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-04 Thread Max Dillon
I Will attest that proper install is key.

Friend who does HVAC for a living helped me install.  His comment when I set up 
and used nitrogen sweep prior to brazing: company makes all the technicians 
carry nitrogen, but very few use it.

By the way, he is really good at brazing, what takes me an hour he gets done in 
minutes. 
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Mitch Haley wrote:

 The guys on HVAC-Talk bemoan the fact that there are no really good 
 thermostatic expansion valves (TXVs) on the market now. 

Hmm, maybe not everybody says that.
Here they seem to be saying that idiot technicians kill TXVs:
http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/archive/index.php/t-150941.html

Somebody on that thread also says that the Parker TXVs used by Goodman
are some 
of the better ones.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-04 Thread Hans Neureiter
What bugs me is that my dear friend Master Electrician Speedy Kilowatt
insists that what I am doing and essentially Mitch is doing is dangerous.
He is mumbling of possible feedback of potential to the grid via the
neutral wire. I don't see how a grounding I can establish is better than
what the power company put in place.
I think when electricians hear of an emergency generator they assume it is
a stand-alone installation, i.e. then gen is hooked to a load with an
extension cord. In this case I see the need for grounding the gen. Of
course, feedback in this case is not possible, but I can become the
grounding rod.

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 I can only find 10-3 cable. Since I go through my service panel where
 Neutral is grounded, why could I not combine Neutral and Ground in one
 wire
 and use the ground rod of the panel?


 I'm sure you could.  The only reason for the fourth
 wire is if you should have a heavily-unbalanced load
 that caused the neutral to rise above ground potential
 more than a few volts, thus rendering the genny chassis
 'warm' relative to the dirt it's sitting on.  If it bugs
 you enough, run a separate ground wire.  (Green is nice.)

 -- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-04 Thread G Mann
I would suggest that you do not tie the generator ground into the grid
service ground.

Keeping the two systems apart once you flip the breaker to generator
power.

You can run a 4th wire for ground to the generator. It does not have to be
a #10 wire. I believe a #12 would suffice. It should however be rated for
the kind of service entrance you have if it's exposed to elements or in
conduit.. your call on that.

Check with your generator manufacturer on grounding of the generator, and
just how it should be handled. Some require a ground post driven into the
ground.. other are grounded internally to the frame.

You have two separate electrical systems that can cross talk and cause
you or someone else serious harm if not handled correctly.

Grant..
[Has motorhome with generator and shore power, very similar switch
arrangement]

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 I can only find 10-3 cable. Since I go through my service panel where
 Neutral is grounded, why could I not combine Neutral and Ground in one
 wire
 and use the ground rod of the panel?


 I'm sure you could.  The only reason for the fourth
 wire is if you should have a heavily-unbalanced load
 that caused the neutral to rise above ground potential
 more than a few volts, thus rendering the genny chassis
 'warm' relative to the dirt it's sitting on.  If it bugs
 you enough, run a separate ground wire.  (Green is nice.)

 -- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-04 Thread WILTON

And harder to stop.  ;)

Wilton

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I've had good experience with Trane.  One relay replaced.  After 15 years, 
heat pump model is still cooling well.  Dealer said Trane uses off the 
shelf parts, so Tranes are cheaper to repair.

Gerry


In RE: Carrier and Goodman:
Goodman is good, cheap stuff.
Maybe thinner cabinet metal and louder operation, but performs as well 
and lasts as long as more expensive brands, assuming they are both 
installed correctly.
The main problem with Goodman is they'll let their distributors sell 
their stuff to anybody, even me, so you're more likely to see a botched 
job with Goodman equipment in it.

Carrier is not the gold standard IMO.
Trane is.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-04 Thread G Mann
What Dan said. Yes.

Grant

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 According to the NEC the generator has to be grounded separately, as it is
 a separately derived source.

 This is why you will almost always see a ground lug on portable generators.

 I have a short grounding rod I use with my 6.5kW portable.  If I am going
 to run it and connect loads from the house, it's tied to the grounding rod,
 not the house ground.

 Dan don't ask me how I know this former generator guy



 On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Hans Neureiter wrote:

  What bugs me is that my dear friend Master Electrician Speedy Kilowatt
  insists that what I am doing and essentially Mitch is doing is dangerous.
  He is mumbling of possible feedback of potential to the grid via the
  neutral wire. I don't see how a grounding I can establish is better than
  what the power company put in place.
  I think when electricians hear of an emergency generator they assume it
 is
  a stand-alone installation, i.e. then gen is hooked to a load with an
  extension cord. In this case I see the need for grounding the gen. Of
  course, feedback in this case is not possible, but I can become the
  grounding rod.
 
  On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
 wrote:
 
  I can only find 10-3 cable. Since I go through my service panel where
  Neutral is grounded, why could I not combine Neutral and Ground in one
  wire
  and use the ground rod of the panel?
 
 
  I'm sure you could.  The only reason for the fourth
  wire is if you should have a heavily-unbalanced load
  that caused the neutral to rise above ground potential
  more than a few volts, thus rendering the genny chassis
  'warm' relative to the dirt it's sitting on.  If it bugs
  you enough, run a separate ground wire.  (Green is nice.)
 
  -- Jim
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-04 Thread Dan Penoff
Not to muddy the electrical water, but neutral connections are a whole 'nother 
ball game. Overlapping switched neutrals, bonded neutrals, etc., etc.

Don't get me started

I would also add that backfeeding a distribution panel with a generator, even 
if you have an interlocking breaker, is inherently dangerous.  Because you are 
not switching the neutral or ground when you do this, you are effectively 
allowing the full potential of the source (generator) to potentially pass 
through the ground or neutral of the whole distribution system in the event of 
a fault.

You may also negate the operation of GFI devices as well.

In a nutshell, don't do it.  If you're so inclined, break out the circuits you 
want on the generator and isolate them with a knife switch or load rated 
disconnect.  The backfeeding approach kills people.  I have been an expert 
witness on more than one occasion to defend a generator manufacturer from 
litigation when people have done this and been killed.  It's not pretty.

Dan


On Nov 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, G Mann wrote:

 What Dan said. Yes.
 
 Grant
 
 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 According to the NEC the generator has to be grounded separately, as it is
 a separately derived source.
 
 This is why you will almost always see a ground lug on portable generators.
 
 I have a short grounding rod I use with my 6.5kW portable.  If I am going
 to run it and connect loads from the house, it's tied to the grounding rod,
 not the house ground.
 
 Dan don't ask me how I know this former generator guy


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Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-04 Thread Craig
On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 08:49:32 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:

 I Will attest that proper install is key.
 
 Friend who does HVAC for a living helped me install.  His comment when
 I set up and used nitrogen sweep prior to brazing: company makes all
 the technicians carry nitrogen, but very few use it.
 
 By the way, he is really good at brazing, what takes me an hour he gets
 done in minutes. 

So, how did it go?

Did you complete the installation?

How well does it work?

Yes, I know, questions, questions


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-11-04 Thread Jon Agne
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On Oct 29, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 Things are just starting to ramp up as darkness falls. The rain is getting 
 serious and the wind is starting to gust. I'm not seriously worried, we get 
 some pretty good wind anyway.
 I bought a gallon of camp fuel, I usually keep 2 gallons on hand so this is 
 just a backup, I've got 3 gallons of kerosene, 1 gallon of mix gas for the 
 generator and a half dozen 1# cans of propane plus 3 gallons for the grill. I 
 put the battery charger on my 110ah battery that will run lights and laptops, 
 it was charged, which reminds me I should put it on my spare group 49 
 battery, suspenders and belt after all. 
 The woodstove is lit, the wood room is about 3/4 full, the outside rack has a 
 half cord under a tarp.
 
 In a minute I'm going to roast a chicken for dinner, bake bread and cook some 
 turkey cutlets for lunch tomorrow.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:57:24 -0600
 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
 To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Sandy
 Message-ID: 20121028095724.977191614fed500572fe6...@pisquared.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 
 How are you all over on the east coast doing? What kind of preparations
 have you made?
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-04 Thread Dieselhead
Back in the archives somewhere, there is a link to a map where list 
members pinned their location.  It may have been Chuck Landenberger 
who started that.





 P.S. And in case you're wondering why I'm asking, I'm putting all this
  information into a file so I can figure out where people are.


That is a great idea!

Best,
-Tim


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[MBZ] Injector lines

2012-11-04 Thread Tim C
77 300D NA

Hope it helps!
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-04 Thread Brian Toscano
Grounding has expanded over the years.  Originally BX cable (metallic
sheathed) and outlets were 2 prong.  For 240V, the same type of wiring was
used, beefier conductors for the 30A service to clothes driers and they
were 3 prong outlets.  .  The metallic sheath effectively provided the
ground and boxes were metal also.  GFCI was around towards the end of these
days.  Neutral and ground were effectively tied together at the panel.
 When Romex (non-metallic sheathed) became popular and boxes went to
plastic, a dedicated copper ground wire was used.  While 3 prong 120V
outlets have been around for a whlle, 240V lagged and driers still used no
separate ground.  Now 240V has caught up and its done with 4 prong
outlets/cable, with separate ground and neutral.

If you had an existing 10/3 generator cable I would use it.  If you were
buying new, I would buy 10/4.


On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 Not to muddy the electrical water, but neutral connections are a whole
 'nother ball game. Overlapping switched neutrals, bonded neutrals, etc.,
 etc.

 Don't get me started

 I would also add that backfeeding a distribution panel with a generator,
 even if you have an interlocking breaker, is inherently dangerous.  Because
 you are not switching the neutral or ground when you do this, you are
 effectively allowing the full potential of the source (generator) to
 potentially pass through the ground or neutral of the whole distribution
 system in the event of a fault.

 You may also negate the operation of GFI devices as well.

 In a nutshell, don't do it.  If you're so inclined, break out the circuits
 you want on the generator and isolate them with a knife switch or load
 rated disconnect.  The backfeeding approach kills people.  I have been an
 expert witness on more than one occasion to defend a generator manufacturer
 from litigation when people have done this and been killed.  It's not
 pretty.

 Dan


 On Nov 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, G Mann wrote:

  What Dan said. Yes.
 
  Grant
 
  On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
  According to the NEC the generator has to be grounded separately, as it
 is
  a separately derived source.
 
  This is why you will almost always see a ground lug on portable
 generators.
 
  I have a short grounding rod I use with my 6.5kW portable.  If I am
 going
  to run it and connect loads from the house, it's tied to the grounding
 rod,
  not the house ground.
 
  Dan don't ask me how I know this former generator guy


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[MBZ] Emergency power for a house [was: Re: 240V]

2012-11-04 Thread Craig
On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:56:01 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 I would also add that backfeeding a distribution panel with a
 generator, even if you have an interlocking breaker, is inherently
 dangerous.

So you are saying Reliance Controls should not have made and sold me the
manual transfer panel, with interlocking breaker, I have installed at our
house?

Here's where I bought it; the Reliance Controls product page isn't
responding at the moment.

http://www.wayfair.com/Reliance-Controls-TWB-4-8-Circuit-200Amp-Transfer-Panel-Link-for-Generator-up-to-25000-Watt-TWB2010DR-RLC1055.html


 You may also negate the operation of GFI devices as well.

GFCI devices do not need a ground to work properly, nor are they
concerned about the potential on the neutral. They are only concerned
about the balance of current between the line and neutral wires.


 In a nutshell, don't do it.  If you're so inclined, break out the
 circuits you want on the generator and isolate them with a knife switch
 or load rated disconnect.  The backfeeding approach kills people.  I
 have been an expert witness on more than one occasion to defend a
 generator manufacturer from litigation when people have done this and
 been killed.  It's not pretty.

With a transfer panel, you are not backfeeding anything. In addition, our
electrical service is grounded at three points:

- the inside sub-panel installation that connects to the
  copper water pipes in the old part of the house,
- the 50' long, separate, seamless tubing that supplies
  water to the new part of our house, and,
- a ground rod at the outside transfer switch panel, which,
  under UL certification, is suitable for service entrance
  and may be used as a main panel or feed-through to a
  sub-panel.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-04 Thread Rich Thomas
You can't have ground and neutral tied together at the panel now, only 
at the service entrance/main shutoff.


--R

On 11/4/12 10:33 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:

Grounding has expanded over the years.  Originally BX cable (metallic
sheathed) and outlets were 2 prong.  For 240V, the same type of wiring was
used, beefier conductors for the 30A service to clothes driers and they
were 3 prong outlets.  .  The metallic sheath effectively provided the
ground and boxes were metal also.  GFCI was around towards the end of these
days.  Neutral and ground were effectively tied together at the panel.
  When Romex (non-metallic sheathed) became popular and boxes went to
plastic, a dedicated copper ground wire was used.  While 3 prong 120V
outlets have been around for a whlle, 240V lagged and driers still used no
separate ground.  Now 240V has caught up and its done with 4 prong
outlets/cable, with separate ground and neutral.

If you had an existing 10/3 generator cable I would use it.  If you were
buying new, I would buy 10/4.


On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:


Not to muddy the electrical water, but neutral connections are a whole
'nother ball game. Overlapping switched neutrals, bonded neutrals, etc.,
etc.

Don't get me started

I would also add that backfeeding a distribution panel with a generator,
even if you have an interlocking breaker, is inherently dangerous.  Because
you are not switching the neutral or ground when you do this, you are
effectively allowing the full potential of the source (generator) to
potentially pass through the ground or neutral of the whole distribution
system in the event of a fault.

You may also negate the operation of GFI devices as well.

In a nutshell, don't do it.  If you're so inclined, break out the circuits
you want on the generator and isolate them with a knife switch or load
rated disconnect.  The backfeeding approach kills people.  I have been an
expert witness on more than one occasion to defend a generator manufacturer
from litigation when people have done this and been killed.  It's not
pretty.

Dan


On Nov 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, G Mann wrote:


What Dan said. Yes.

Grant

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 7:34 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:


According to the NEC the generator has to be grounded separately, as it

is

a separately derived source.

This is why you will almost always see a ground lug on portable

generators.

I have a short grounding rod I use with my 6.5kW portable.  If I am

going

to run it and connect loads from the house, it's tied to the grounding

rod,

not the house ground.

Dan don't ask me how I know this former generator guy


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Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-04 Thread Brian Toscano
The Northeast has plenty of hills, but for some reason, some locales don't
drive well on them.  Every time there is a up hill on I-495 around Boston,
people slow down.  I don't know if they're stupid or worried there little
shitty cars will downshift to maintain speed.  I can see a slowing down at
high altitude, because so much of the engine's power is lost to altitude
and it can be 2 gear downshift (i.e. running near redline) but high
altitude doesn't exit in Massachusetts.


On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 7:08 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Back in the archives somewhere, there is a link to a map where list
 members pinned their location.  It may have been Chuck Landenberger who
 started that.


   P.S. And in case you're wondering why I'm asking, I'm putting all this
   information into a file so I can figure out where people are.


 That is a great idea!

 Best,
 -Tim


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Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-04 Thread Rick Knoble
I suggested it and Chuck took up the mantle and did it. 

Rick
Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 4, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Back in the archives somewhere, there is a link to a map where list members 
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Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-04 Thread Rich Thomas
Boston has the worst drivers of anywhere I have been (third world 
included).  They tend to spill over to the rest of the state (and New 
Hampster) with their bad habits.


--R

On 11/4/12 10:41 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:

The Northeast has plenty of hills, but for some reason, some locales don't
drive well on them.



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Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-04 Thread Peter Frederick
This is why one should have a properly installed transfer switch to  
use a generator for the house.  That way whatever circuits you choose  
to power will be completely isolated from the main power grid while  
the generator is in use, and you won't electrocute a lineman nor try  
to run the entire neighborhood off a 5000 watt generator.


Otherwise, use extension cords for specific appliances and don't use  
the house wiring at all.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-04 Thread Dan Penoff
Amen.

Dan


On Nov 4, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:

 This is why one should have a properly installed transfer switch to use a 
 generator for the house.  That way whatever circuits you choose to power will 
 be completely isolated from the main power grid while the generator is in 
 use, and you won't electrocute a lineman nor try to run the entire 
 neighborhood off a 5000 watt generator.
 
 Otherwise, use extension cords for specific appliances and don't use the 
 house wiring at all.
 
 Peter
 
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[MBZ] Delivery valve seals in process

2012-11-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Finally have the parts for the DV seals, got everything apart, took out the 
first one and came in to check orientation and tension before I put it back 
together. So far so good. I did have to run out and buy a T30 torx bit, I was 
sure I had one...

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-04 Thread John Reames
Or should I have taken that comparison to banned?

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On Nov 3, 2012, at 13:37, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 Stulz compared to Liebert?
 
 chuckle
 
 Just caught that
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 Also not tracking your comparison with Carrier, is that good or bad?
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300
 '87 300TD
 
 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Joy! Is it a DX unit or a package unit? (I'm presuming DX with
 pre-charged lines?)
 
 I've heard that goodman is to carrier as stulz is to liebert.
 
 
 --
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 jream...@verizon.net
 Home: +14106646986
 Mobile: +14437915905
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-04 Thread John Reames
I've got some and I can tell you stories.  Better buy triple-redundant and hope 
you'll have any redundancy.

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On Nov 3, 2012, at 13:47, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 Sorry.
 
 Liebert is essentially the gold standard in the raised floor computer 
 room/server farm environmental and electrical infrastructure.  They make 
 chillers and UPS systems that are probably used in 90% of the computer rooms 
 in corporate America, if not worldwide.
 
 Stulz, well, suffice to say they're sort of the Yugo of the market, I guess.  
 I don't know much about them, as I've never seen any of their equipment, but 
 I have heard stories.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Nov 3, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Craig wrote:
 
 On Sat, 03 Nov 2012 13:37:04 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 Stulz compared to Liebert?
 
 chuckle
 
 Just caught that
 
 How about explaining it for those of us who are in the dark
 
 
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[MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done

2012-11-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Okay I can see how people screw this job up.
The first two (I started at the front and went rearward) went perfectly, got 
the holder, spring, copper washer out no problem.
Third hole when I put the holder and spring on the spring somehow gets between 
the element and the side of the hole. I discover this when I can't tighten the 
holder down.

Lesson #1: put the spring on top of the element, put the DV holder on top of 
that.

I gently removed the spring while holding the element in place. Still managed 
to pull the little whatever it is off the top of the element. Got that back in 
place in the original orientation. Fortunately theres writing on there, 
fortunately I noted which way the writing went first.

Fourth hole as I remove the holder I accidentally tip it because I'm trying to 
remove holder and socket at the same time, this causes the element to rise in 
the bore. 

Lesson #2: remove socket from DV holder, remove DV holder from bore straight 
up. This would be easier if the intake manifold weren't in the way.

Immediately upon realizing whats happening I stop and reverse course. The 
element falls back into place looking satisfyingly normal.

I'd read that sometimes it was hard to get the car to start after this job 
because the injection lines are all empty so I put the battery charger on the 
battery to give a good float charge before I started. That said I cranked with 
my foot to the floor for maybe 5 seconds before it started, it stumbled a bit 
at first but then settled down. Sounded weird as I had the airbox off. I wonder 
if the fact that all the bores were full of diesel and I left them full (which 
made a drippy mess in the driveway until I noticed and slid a pan under) helped.

So anyway this project was wonderfully devoid of any excitement. Two of the 
o-rings were really shredded, the other two had triangular cross sections so 
clearly they all needed replacing. I would posit that the engine is slightly 
quieter now but we're talking about an OM601 with less than 200,000 miles on 
it, its pretty quiet to begin with...

-Curt

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[MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...

2012-11-04 Thread Rolf

http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965

I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down for DD 
use. Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my #22 head and new 
hx30.. Drool.




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Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Are you considering Rhode Island part of greater Boston?

I consider RI drivers the worst in the world...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 10:55:39 -0500
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
Message-ID: 50968ffb.6040...@constructivity.net
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Boston has the worst drivers of anywhere I have been (third world 
included).  They tend to spill over to the rest of the state (and New 
Hampster) with their bad habits.

--R

On 11/4/12 10:41 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:
 The Northeast has plenty of hills, but for some reason, some locales don't
 drive well on them.

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Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-04 Thread Brian Toscano
I have heard horror stories about Rhode Island drivers, but have never been
in Rhode Island.  Personally after seeing how bad Massachusetts drivers
are, I think they have a lot of nerve badmouthing RI drivers.


On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Are you considering Rhode Island part of greater Boston?

 I consider RI drivers the worst in the world...

 -Curt

 Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 10:55:39 -0500
 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
 Message-ID: 50968ffb.6040...@constructivity.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Boston has the worst drivers of anywhere I have been (third world
 included).  They tend to spill over to the rest of the state (and New
 Hampster) with their bad habits.

 --R

 On 11/4/12 10:41 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:
  The Northeast has plenty of hills, but for some reason, some locales
 don't
  drive well on them.

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Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done

2012-11-04 Thread Brian Toscano
It often helps to leave the injector lines loose at the injector and crank
it over until they bleed diesel.  Then tighten them up and the car should
start easily.  Far better than many seconds of cranking and waiting for a
smooth idle.


On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Okay I can see how people screw this job up.
 The first two (I started at the front and went rearward) went perfectly,
 got the holder, spring, copper washer out no problem.
 Third hole when I put the holder and spring on the spring somehow gets
 between the element and the side of the hole. I discover this when I can't
 tighten the holder down.

 Lesson #1: put the spring on top of the element, put the DV holder on top
 of that.

 I gently removed the spring while holding the element in place. Still
 managed to pull the little whatever it is off the top of the element. Got
 that back in place in the original orientation. Fortunately theres writing
 on there, fortunately I noted which way the writing went first.

 Fourth hole as I remove the holder I accidentally tip it because I'm
 trying to remove holder and socket at the same time, this causes the
 element to rise in the bore.

 Lesson #2: remove socket from DV holder, remove DV holder from bore
 straight up. This would be easier if the intake manifold weren't in the way.

 Immediately upon realizing whats happening I stop and reverse course. The
 element falls back into place looking satisfyingly normal.

 I'd read that sometimes it was hard to get the car to start after this job
 because the injection lines are all empty so I put the battery charger on
 the battery to give a good float charge before I started. That said I
 cranked with my foot to the floor for maybe 5 seconds before it started, it
 stumbled a bit at first but then settled down. Sounded weird as I had the
 airbox off. I wonder if the fact that all the bores were full of diesel and
 I left them full (which made a drippy mess in the driveway until I noticed
 and slid a pan under) helped.

 So anyway this project was wonderfully devoid of any excitement. Two of
 the o-rings were really shredded, the other two had triangular cross
 sections so clearly they all needed replacing. I would posit that the
 engine is slightly quieter now but we're talking about an OM601 with less
 than 200,000 miles on it, its pretty quiet to begin with...

 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-04 Thread Rich Thomas

RI is just a county of Mass.  Gone totally downhill since Buddy Cianci died.

--R

On 11/4/12 3:24 PM, Brian Toscano wrote:

I have heard horror stories about Rhode Island drivers, but have never been
in Rhode Island.  Personally after seeing how bad Massachusetts drivers
are, I think they have a lot of nerve badmouthing RI drivers.


On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:


Are you considering Rhode Island part of greater Boston?

I consider RI drivers the worst in the world...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 10:55:39 -0500
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Boston has the worst drivers of anywhere I have been (third world
included).  They tend to spill over to the rest of the state (and New
Hampster) with their bad habits.

--R

On 11/4/12 10:41 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:

The Northeast has plenty of hills, but for some reason, some locales

don't

drive well on them.

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Re: [MBZ] Emergency power for a house [was: Re: 240V]

2012-11-04 Thread Fmiser
 Craig wrote:

 In addition, our electrical service is grounded at three points:
 
 - the inside sub-panel installation that connects to the
   copper water pipes in the old part of the house,
 - the 50' long, separate, seamless tubing that supplies
   water to the new part of our house, and,
 - a ground rod at the outside transfer switch panel, which,
   under UL certification, is suitable for service entrance
   and may be used as a main panel or feed-through to a
   sub-panel.

NEC says that's fine - IF the multiple grounds are tied together.

From a lightning protection standpoint, one ground is better.
Or really heavy cable tying the multiple grounds together.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...

2012-11-04 Thread Michael Canfield
Not bad at all.  Sounds fun.

Mike
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 http://www.superturbodiesel.**com/std/attachment.php?**thumbnail=5965http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965

 I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down for DD use.
 Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my #22 head and new hx30..
 Drool.



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Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done

2012-11-04 Thread Dieselhead


So anyway this project was wonderfully devoid of any excitement. Two 
of the o-rings were really shredded, the other two had triangular 
cross sections so clearly they all needed replacing. I would posit 
that the engine is slightly quieter now but we're talking about an 
OM601 with less than 200,000 miles on it, its pretty quiet to begin 
with...


-Curt


Attaboy!  It is not hard.  You just have to pay attention and be careful.

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Re: [MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...

2012-11-04 Thread Dieselhead
What is it that we are trying to look at?  I can see the RPM but 
everything else is too fuzzy.  THe link says thumbnail.  Maybe the 
real thing is easier to read than the thumbnail.  I presume the 
curves are torque and HP, but without units, it means nothing.




http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965

I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down for 
DD use. Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my #22 head 
and new hx30.. Drool.


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Re: [MBZ] Jeep u-joints

2012-11-04 Thread Michael Canfield
In that application I would say as long as they are a greasable joint the
cheapo one should be just fine.  You aren't running big tires or a locking
differential in the front are you?

Mike
On Nov 4, 2012 3:24 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone have experience with AutoZone u-joints?

 The front left axle joint was failing on mine.  Searching AZ, Advance,
 O'Reilly's, CarQuest, and NAPA I could not find one that listed a Spicer
 (what the Jeep came with from the factory).  I could have bought one from
 the dealer ($60-70) or online ($40) or I could have bought a McParts joints
 for $9-20.

 I opted for an AutoZone u-joint since I was also going to do use one of
 their 36 mm sockets to do the job.

 RR was pretty much what I expected.  A big heavy hammer and sockets got it
 done.


 Thanks,
 Brian
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Re: [MBZ] Tools - was: Delivery valve seals in process

2012-11-04 Thread Fmiser
 Curt Raymond wrote:

 I did have to run out and buy a T30 torx bit, I was sure I had
 one...

Heh.  You'll probably find it when you are putting your new one
away.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-04 Thread Tim C
On Nov 3, 2012 9:59 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Here they seem to be saying that idiot technicians kill TXVs:
 http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/archive/index.php/t-150941.html

 Somebody on that thread also says that the Parker TXVs used by Goodman
are some of the better ones.

I did suggest he try another service company, but he didn't want to pay
again.  Guess that answers that. I will put a bug in his ear to start with
someone else next time.

Thanks for the pointer!
-Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...

2012-11-04 Thread Fmiser
 Rolf wrote:

 http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965
 
 I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down
 for DD use. Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my
 #22 head and new hx30.. Drool.

What is DD use?

Dirty Diesel?  Direct Drive? 

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Jeep u-joints

2012-11-04 Thread Brian Toscano
Everything is factory.  The new u-joint is non-greasable just like the
factory originals.


On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote:

 In that application I would say as long as they are a greasable joint the
 cheapo one should be just fine.  You aren't running big tires or a locking
 differential in the front are you?

 Mike
 On Nov 4, 2012 3:24 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote:

  Anyone have experience with AutoZone u-joints?
 
  The front left axle joint was failing on mine.  Searching AZ, Advance,
  O'Reilly's, CarQuest, and NAPA I could not find one that listed a Spicer
  (what the Jeep came with from the factory).  I could have bought one from
  the dealer ($60-70) or online ($40) or I could have bought a McParts
 joints
  for $9-20.
 
  I opted for an AutoZone u-joint since I was also going to do use one of
  their 36 mm sockets to do the job.
 
  RR was pretty much what I expected.  A big heavy hammer and sockets got
 it
  done.
 
 
  Thanks,
  Brian
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Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-04 Thread Brian Toscano
when did he die?  according to wikipedia he was the mayor of providence in
two separate administrations, each one ended with a felony convinction. his
daughter died of an overdose.



On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 RI is just a county of Mass.  Gone totally downhill since Buddy Cianci
 died.

 --R

 On 11/4/12 3:24 PM, Brian Toscano wrote:

 I have heard horror stories about Rhode Island drivers, but have never
 been
 in Rhode Island.  Personally after seeing how bad Massachusetts drivers
 are, I think they have a lot of nerve badmouthing RI drivers.


 On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

  Are you considering Rhode Island part of greater Boston?

 I consider RI drivers the worst in the world...

 -Curt

 Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 10:55:39 -0500
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 Boston has the worst drivers of anywhere I have been (third world
 included).  They tend to spill over to the rest of the state (and New
 Hampster) with their bad habits.

 --R

 On 11/4/12 10:41 AM, Brian Toscano wrote:

 The Northeast has plenty of hills, but for some reason, some locales

 don't

 drive well on them.

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[MBZ] goodman heat pumps

2012-11-04 Thread Rick Hawkins Java

Folks

I've had good success with my Goodman unit at my beach house. It's  
probably about 13 years old and is run about 3 months of the year,  
mostly summer, in AC mode. I've only had to replace 2 starting  
capacitors in that time ...one in the air handler and one in the  
outside unit.



thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...

2012-11-04 Thread Rolf
600hp 900nm. There isnt a link?

Sent via string from my tin can.

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

What is it that we are trying to look at?  I can see the RPM but 
everything else is too fuzzy.  THe link says thumbnail.  Maybe the 
real thing is easier to read than the thumbnail.  I presume the 
curves are torque and HP, but without units, it means nothing.


http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965

I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down for 
DD use. Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my #22 head 
and new hx30.. Drool.

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Re: [MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...

2012-11-04 Thread Rolf
Daily driver. Stock is 70cc mine is set to deliver 100cc and with the turn of 
the alda screw 120cc. Dyno graph is for 180cc.

Sent via string from my tin can.

Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rolf wrote:

 http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965
 
 I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down
 for DD use. Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my
 #22 head and new hx30.. Drool.

What is DD use?

Dirty Diesel?  Direct Drive? 

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Jeep u-joints

2012-11-04 Thread Peter Frederick
It will ride much better without the front wheel flogging up and down  
as you drive!


Easy replacement.

Driveshafts are a bit more trouble, as they use a double u-joint so  
you have to replace two instead of one.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-04 Thread Gerry Archer
If I turn off the two main breakers, why should I need any kind of a switch 
when I plug the two cords from my generator into the two primary circuits in 
the house?  The only wire still connected to the power company is the 
ground/neutral at the main switch box. (I'm only running the fridge, lights, 
and computer with a small generator.) When I see the neighbors lights on, I 
unplug the generator and turn the mains back on.

Gerrywho has used this arrangement for several power outages.

From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com

Amen.
Dan

On Nov 4, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Peter Frederick wrote:
This is why one should have a properly installed transfer switch to use a 
generator for the house.  That way whatever circuits you choose to power 
will be completely isolated from the main power grid while the generator 
is in use, and you won't electrocute a lineman nor try to run the entire 
neighborhood off a 5000 watt generator.


Otherwise, use extension cords for specific appliances and don't use the 
house wiring at all.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Goodman etc.

2012-11-04 Thread RELNGSON
 That said the colleague got five plus years without any trouble or
 maintenance so...
 
My AC system, a GE using R22, was installed in 1963. It is not a heat pump 
and it's evap is located in the ductwork above the furnace (Payne Plus 90) 
and has never had a repair. The refrigerant has been topped up twice and when 
the new gas furnace was installed in 2005 I asked the installer to check 
the refrigerant level. After putting the gauges on it, he said it needed 
nothing.

My friend MJ who is in the commercial HVAC business in Ft. Lauderdale has 
told me that back in those days, GE was the best one on the market.

That was then, of course but it seems to have come true.

RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] dash cams

2012-11-04 Thread RELNGSON
Now that you have seen all the awful accidents recorded in Russia, Google 
Chinese auto accidents which can be worse even without the snow.

What makes it worse is the cars in China seems to be as crashworthy as eggs 
and the Russians with their old Ladas are about as bad.

China has become a huge market for Porsche since the Chinese can just buy 
another Cayenne or Panamera when they destroy them.

Locally built Buicks are also very popular with unskilled drivers.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Watch out for BC plates

2012-11-04 Thread RELNGSON
 ...I have heard horror stories about Rhode Island drivers, but have never 
 been
 in Rhode Island.  Personally after seeing how bad Massachusetts drivers
 are, I think they have a lot of nerve badmouthing RI drivers...
 
When I was a kid here in Seattle the worst drivers were in any car with 
British Columbia plates. These days, the BC container haulers making two trips 
a day from the ports of Seattle or Tacoma to Vancouver BC are the ones to 
watch for yellow tractors hauling container trailers.

In the city of Vancouver the traditional terrors are those who moved there 
from Hong Kong with a boatload of cash and purchased a few 7-series or 
S-Classes and terrorize every one else. An old favorite is a left turn from the 
right lane without looking or signalling. 

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Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter with a camera on the dash and monkey in the boot

2012-11-04 Thread Hendrik Fay

Nah, get one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6WB5YJia8

Hendrik
who doesn't have a boot in his cars

On 04/11/12 14:16, G Mann wrote:

I've been looking at them and find several that have both front and rear
facing cameras, both with GPS . speed information, time date stamp, etc
recorded to a hard drive with hours of time available. Seems to me, it
could be very handy to have, presuming you drive safely.

If you speed or violate road laws, may not be so handy .

One demo video I saw had a camera out the drivers window recording a police
officer as he did his stop. Hm...

We live in a complicated world, I suppose the camera could also be slaved
into the alarm system as well, with motion triggers to camera up .

Just a thought.
Grant...






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Re: [MBZ] Watch out for BC plates

2012-11-04 Thread Dan Penoff
Like the cutaway they do on Family Guy about the Asian driver who cuts across 
5 lanes of traffic without signaling

Dan


On Nov 4, 2012, at 6:47 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

 ...I have heard horror stories about Rhode Island drivers, but have never 
 been
 in Rhode Island.  Personally after seeing how bad Massachusetts drivers
 are, I think they have a lot of nerve badmouthing RI drivers...
 
 When I was a kid here in Seattle the worst drivers were in any car with 
 British Columbia plates. These days, the BC container haulers making two 
 trips 
 a day from the ports of Seattle or Tacoma to Vancouver BC are the ones to 
 watch for yellow tractors hauling container trailers.
 
 In the city of Vancouver the traditional terrors are those who moved there 
 from Hong Kong with a boatload of cash and purchased a few 7-series or 
 S-Classes and terrorize every one else. An old favorite is a left turn from 
 the 
 right lane without looking or signalling. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Not bad for an old oil burner...

2012-11-04 Thread Craig
On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 15:45:27 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Rolf wrote:
 
  http://www.superturbodiesel.com/std/attachment.php?thumbnail=5965
  
  I've got the same pump w 7.5mm elements but mine is tuned down
  for DD use. Sitting on the bench ready to get mounted with my
  #22 head and new hx30.. Drool.
 
 What is DD use?
 
 Dirty Diesel?  Direct Drive? 

I would presume it's Daily Driver, but the acronymn is very obscure.

And what is hx30?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Watch out for BC plates

2012-11-04 Thread Brian Toscano
The ones that make it pretty far inland seem to do OK.  Personally I've
found drivers in the Seattle area to be crazy regardless of where they're
from.

On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:47 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  ...I have heard horror stories about Rhode Island drivers, but have never
  been
  in Rhode Island.  Personally after seeing how bad Massachusetts drivers
  are, I think they have a lot of nerve badmouthing RI drivers...
 
 When I was a kid here in Seattle the worst drivers were in any car with
 British Columbia plates. These days, the BC container haulers making two
 trips
 a day from the ports of Seattle or Tacoma to Vancouver BC are the ones to
 watch for yellow tractors hauling container trailers.

 In the city of Vancouver the traditional terrors are those who moved there
 from Hong Kong with a boatload of cash and purchased a few 7-series or
 S-Classes and terrorize every one else. An old favorite is a left turn
 from the
 right lane without looking or signalling.

 RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Jeep u-joints

2012-11-04 Thread Brian Toscano
The vibration at 50 MPH is pretty much gone. :-)  I'll know more next time
I take it on a trip.



On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:

 It will ride much better without the front wheel flogging up and down as
 you drive!

 Easy replacement.

 Driveshafts are a bit more trouble, as they use a double u-joint so you
 have to replace two instead of one.

 Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 84, Issue 19 Re: Rich Thomas Buddy Cianci

2012-11-04 Thread Ronald Courcy

To set things straight   Buddy Cianci is alive and well he does a political 
television commentary everyday on a local television station.

As far as Rhode Island drivers go, I do not think they are the worst in the 
world but they are certainly close in the competition.
Turn signals are for decoration and not to be used because of course everyone 
knows already where you are attempting to put your car.
Speed limits are really just suggestions, and amber traffic lights are a 
challenge to the drivers ability to press down on the loud pedal.
I of course always obey the speed limit and immediately stop when I encounter 
an amber light, yeah right!!  I do however religiously use directional singles. 
 I think I am an exception on that count.   Thanks Ron Courcylife long 
Rhode Island driver



 
  
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Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter with a camera on the dash and monkey in the boot

2012-11-04 Thread Dieselhead

Nah, get one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6WB5YJia8

Hendrik
who doesn't have a boot in his cars


Don't you have boot boobies down under?

Or boot dingos?

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Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter with a camera on the dash and monkey in the boot

2012-11-04 Thread Hendrik Fay
Umnh, not quite sure what you mean by boot boobies I can only assume, 
knowing that you are a God fearing decent sort of a fella, that you 
meant bobbies, as in English policemen.
We actually use the term coppers for our new look stormtroopers 
http://www.sapolicenews.com.au/component/content/article/4-news/10475-out-with-the-old-in-with-the-dark-blue.html


Hendrik
who would check for boot dingos if he had a boot to check

On 05/11/12 10:59, Dieselhead wrote:

Nah, get one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6WB5YJia8

Hendrik
who doesn't have a boot in his cars


Don't you have boot boobies down under?

Or boot dingos?







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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 84, Issue 19 Re: Rich Thomas Buddy Cianci

2012-11-04 Thread Brian Toscano
Personally I dislike turn signals unless they add extra visibility in
inclement weather.  I don't see how they provide any useful information.
 Then again, I come from a state where they aren't required in all
circumstances. :-)




On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Ronald Courcy tron...@hotmail.com wrote:


 To set things straight   Buddy Cianci is alive and well he does a
 political television commentary everyday on a local television station.

 As far as Rhode Island drivers go, I do not think they are the worst in
 the world but they are certainly close in the competition.
 Turn signals are for decoration and not to be used because of course
 everyone knows already where you are attempting to put your car.
 Speed limits are really just suggestions, and amber traffic lights are a
 challenge to the drivers ability to press down on the loud pedal.
 I of course always obey the speed limit and immediately stop when I
 encounter an amber light, yeah right!!  I do however religiously use
 directional singles.  I think I am an exception on that count.   Thanks Ron
 Courcylife long Rhode Island driver

 
 
 

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[MBZ] 107 trans

2012-11-04 Thread Dieselhead
#1 daughter called and said she had been out driving earlier this 
afternoon, came home, and left again.  When she turned onto the major 
highway, the car would not shift out of low.  She tried turning the 
car off and restarting.  The fluid was between the min and max marks. 
Fluid and filter were changed a year ago.


1985 380SL

Neutral (Park) safety switch is getting flakey, but works after the 
shifter is run down and back.


Kinda sounds like the 124 elring filter collapse.  But I never heard 
of that in a 107, or anything but a 124.


Anyone else have any other ideas?

total vacuum failure (unhooked hose to modulator) should result in 
very harsh and high RPM shifts.


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Re: [MBZ] 107 trans

2012-11-04 Thread Brian Toscano
Filter and fluid change is cheap and easy.

Plugged fuel filters can affect Trans shifting in diesels.

On Sunday, November 4, 2012, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 #1 daughter called and said she had been out driving earlier this
 afternoon, came home, and left again.  When she turned onto the major
 highway, the car would not shift out of low.  She tried turning the car off
 and restarting.  The fluid was between the min and max marks. Fluid and
 filter were changed a year ago.

 1985 380SL

 Neutral (Park) safety switch is getting flakey, but works after the
 shifter is run down and back.

 Kinda sounds like the 124 elring filter collapse.  But I never heard of
 that in a 107, or anything but a 124.

 Anyone else have any other ideas?

 total vacuum failure (unhooked hose to modulator) should result in very
 harsh and high RPM shifts.

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[MBZ] OT POLITICS In depth interview of Ohne Romney

2012-11-04 Thread Hendrik Fay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmZ6ulUpeuMfeature=related

Hendrik
who wants to give y'all a pat on the back for managing to keep politics 
off the list



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Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-11-04 Thread Scott Ritchey
That looks a little like my yard in Niceville FL after a small cat 1 storm.
The only government assistance was from the county; they contracted to haul
off debris after you piled it at the edge of the street.  I had 110 ft of
frontage piled up to the CATV cables (except at the driveway) after several
storms.  It was chain-saw serenade from sunup to sundown for a week.  I live
inland in NC now and I don't miss those days.  I must be getting old.

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On Oct 29, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

 Things are just starting to ramp up as darkness falls. The rain is getting
serious and the wind is starting to gust. I'm not seriously worried, we get
some pretty good wind anyway.
 I bought a gallon of camp fuel, I usually keep 2 gallons on hand so this
is just a backup, I've got 3 gallons of kerosene, 1 gallon of mix gas for
the generator and a half dozen 1# cans of propane plus 3 gallons for the
grill. I put the battery charger on my 110ah battery that will run lights
and laptops, it was charged, which reminds me I should put it on my spare
group 49 battery, suspenders and belt after all. 
 The woodstove is lit, the wood room is about 3/4 full, the outside rack
has a half cord under a tarp.
 
 In a minute I'm going to roast a chicken for dinner, bake bread and cook
some turkey cutlets for lunch tomorrow.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:57:24 -0600
 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
 To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] Sandy
 Message-ID: 20121028095724.977191614fed500572fe6...@pisquared.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
 
 How are you all over on the east coast doing? What kind of preparations
 have you made?
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] 107 trans

2012-11-04 Thread Dieselhead

Filter and fluid change is cheap and easy.

Plugged fuel filters can affect Trans shifting in diesels.

On Sunday, November 4, 2012, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 #1 daughter called and said she had been out driving earlier this
 afternoon, came home, and left again.  When she turned onto the major
 highway, the car would not shift out of low.  She tried turning the car off
 and restarting.  The fluid was between the min and max marks. Fluid and
 filter were changed a year ago.

 1985 380SL

 Neutral (Park) safety switch is getting flakey, but works after the
 shifter is run down and back.

 Kinda sounds like the 124 elring filter collapse.  But I never heard of
 that in a 107, or anything but a 124.

 Anyone else have any other ideas?

 total vacuum failure (unhooked hose to modulator) should result in very

  harsh and high RPM shifts.
 


Forgot to add that it will go forward and in reverse.

What is the failure mode of a modulator?


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Re: [MBZ] 240V

2012-11-04 Thread Craig
On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 16:42:19 -0500 Gerry Archer
arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 If I turn off the two main breakers, why should I need any kind of a
 switch when I plug the two cords from my generator into the two primary
 circuits in the house?  The only wire still connected to the power
 company is the ground/neutral at the main switch box. (I'm only running
 the fridge, lights, and computer with a small generator.) When I see
 the neighbors lights on, I unplug the generator and turn the mains back
 on. Gerrywho has used this arrangement for several power outages.

That sequence of connections is actually what a transfer switch does, but
it does it in a way that makes mistakes impossible. If you make a mistake
in your procedure, you leave yourself open to very high legal liability.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-04 Thread Greg Fiorentino
 Carrier is not the gold standard IMO.
Trane is.

FYI American Standard is the plain Jane version of Trane.  It has all the
identical guts of the Cadillac Trane in a Chevy trim.  I'm delighted with
mine.

Greg

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 7:28 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Todays job

Dan Penoff wrote:
 Sorry.
 
 Liebert is essentially the gold standard in the raised floor computer
room/server farm environmental and electrical infrastructure.  They make
chillers and UPS systems that are probably used in 90% of the computer rooms
in corporate America, if not worldwide.
 
 Stulz, well, suffice to say they're sort of the Yugo of the market, I
guess.  I don't know much about them, as I've never seen any of their
equipment, but I have heard stories.

In RE: Carrier and Goodman:

Goodman is good, cheap stuff.
Maybe thinner cabinet metal and louder operation, but performs as well and
lasts as long as more expensive brands, assuming they are both installed
correctly.
The main problem with Goodman is they'll let their distributors sell their
stuff to anybody, even me, so you're more likely to see a botched job with
Goodman equipment in it.

Carrier is not the gold standard IMO.
Trane is.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done

2012-11-04 Thread Curt Raymond
I'd considered that and might have tried if the car hadn't started so easily, I 
don't consider 5 seconds to be a big deal...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 13:26:47 -0700
From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done
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It often helps to leave the injector lines loose at the injector and crank
it over until they bleed diesel.  Then tighten them up and the car should
start easily.  Far better than many seconds of cranking and waiting for a
smooth idle.

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Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter

2012-11-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Buddy isn't dead, he was on the radio just the other day...

http://www.buddycianci.com/

-Curt

Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 15:37:52 -0500
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] drive safe this winter
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RI is just a county of Mass.  Gone totally downhill since Buddy Cianci died.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done

2012-11-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah I kind of worry about things...

This time took me maybe 3 hours, having done it once I could do it again in 2. 
I'd remove the intake manifold next time for sure.

One other thing I forgot to note is to pay attention to the size of your torque 
wrench. Fortunately Fred had sent one along, mine is too long and wouldn't have 
worked for this job without removing the intake manifold which I was not 
prepared (ie no replacement gasket) for.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 15:21:10 -0600
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Delivery valves: It is done
Message-ID: a06240807ccbc8ca162d9@[192.168.1.51]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed


So anyway this project was wonderfully devoid of any excitement. Two 
of the o-rings were really shredded, the other two had triangular 
cross sections so clearly they all needed replacing. I would posit 
that the engine is slightly quieter now but we're talking about an 
OM601 with less than 200,000 miles on it, its pretty quiet to begin 
with...

-Curt

Attaboy!  It is not hard.  You just have to pay attention and be careful.


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Re: [MBZ] CL TRUCK with Deutz air cooled engine

2012-11-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Awesome truck.

If I'm honest its not a great ad. If you really want to sell it at least clear 
the junk out of it. If you really, really want to sell it invest in a battery 
so its running.

Those are my two biggest pet peeves about Craiglist ads.

A picture of the engine would probably help too. Your pics are decent but I 
think you're looking at a fairly narrow market for this, you need to court 
people a little.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:55:43 -0500
From: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] CL TRUCK with Deutz air cooled engine
Message-ID: fd05666e-3076-4c18-a007-6b0d19809...@aol.com
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII;format=flowed

Folks

Here's an interesting CL post

http://athensga.craigslist.org/cto/3386680136.html

and this one IS mine!!

It's a good truck  i replaced it with a 1991 Isuzu NPR

Special price on the Iveco for list members!!
thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins


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Re: [MBZ] 107 trans

2012-11-04 Thread Curt Raymond
My '96 Dodge Dakota did that, Angie drove all the way home in low one day, boy 
she was happy with me...

I sucked a quart of fluid out with my topsider and put in a quart of the Lucas 
trans stuff. Flailed it around for a half an hour, let it sit over night and 
the next day it was improved. It improved more over the next couple days until 
it was basically normal. I had a filter and fluid and it went another 20,000 
miles.
My best guess was it had a sticky valve and the high detergent (even for ATF) 
Lucas stuff helped flush it out.

Maybe get her to try slipping it into neutral while moving and then back into 
drive, that helped on my Dakota.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:05:52 -0600
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 107 trans
Message-ID: a0624080cccbcbef7dc3b@[192.168.1.51]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed

#1 daughter called and said she had been out driving earlier this 
afternoon, came home, and left again.  When she turned onto the major 
highway, the car would not shift out of low.  She tried turning the 
car off and restarting.  The fluid was between the min and max marks. 
Fluid and filter were changed a year ago.

1985 380SL

Neutral (Park) safety switch is getting flakey, but works after the 
shifter is run down and back.

Kinda sounds like the 124 elring filter collapse.  But I never heard 
of that in a 107, or anything but a 124.

Anyone else have any other ideas?

total vacuum failure (unhooked hose to modulator) should result in 
very harsh and high RPM shifts.


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Re: [MBZ] CL TRUCK with Deutz air cooled engine

2012-11-04 Thread Michael Canfield
They are a great truck.  I had an Iveco cabover with a water cooled Deutz.
Solid 20mpg heavy duty truck.

What is top speed for this model?  Wish I had the cash, mine was rusty and
a rusty Iveco is an expensive Iveco.  That would make a very nice
rv/trailer hauler.

Lookin' for any trades?  Just what is list price?

Mike
On Nov 4, 2012 9:53 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Awesome truck.

 If I'm honest its not a great ad. If you really want to sell it at least
 clear the junk out of it. If you really, really want to sell it invest in a
 battery so its running.

 Those are my two biggest pet peeves about Craiglist ads.

 A picture of the engine would probably help too. Your pics are decent but
 I think you're looking at a fairly narrow market for this, you need to
 court people a little.

 -Curt

 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 17:55:43 -0500
 From: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] CL TRUCK with Deutz air cooled engine
 Message-ID: fd05666e-3076-4c18-a007-6b0d19809...@aol.com
 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=US-ASCII;format=flowed

 Folks

 Here's an interesting CL post

 http://athensga.craigslist.org/cto/3386680136.html

 and this one IS mine!!

 It's a good truck  i replaced it with a 1991 Isuzu NPR

 Special price on the Iveco for list members!!
 thanks,

 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins


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Re: [MBZ] Goodman etc.

2012-11-04 Thread Max Dillon
You should call GE and Guinness!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

relng...@aol.com wrote:

 That said the colleague got five plus years without any trouble
or
 maintenance so...
 
My AC system, a GE using R22, was installed in 1963. It is not a heat
pump 
and it's evap is located in the ductwork above the furnace (Payne Plus
90) 
and has never had a repair. The refrigerant has been topped up twice
and when 
the new gas furnace was installed in 2005 I asked the installer to
check 
the refrigerant level. After putting the gauges on it, he said it
needed 
nothing.

My friend MJ who is in the commercial HVAC business in Ft. Lauderdale
has 
told me that back in those days, GE was the best one on the market.

That was then, of course but it seems to have come true.

RLE
 
 
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[MBZ] OT CL Ads Was CL TRUCK

2012-11-04 Thread Rick Knoble
On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:53 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 If I'm honest its not a great ad. If you really want to sell it at least 
 clear the junk out of it. If you really, really want to sell it invest in a 
 battery so its running.
 
 Those are my two biggest pet peeves about Craiglist ads.


So what makes good advertising copy? What entices people to make a purchase? I 
have been trying to sell a wood stove on CL for three months with NO success. 
As Rod Blagojevic said  This thing is f'ing golden, I'm not going to just give 
it away. 

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380182153.html

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380184075.html

That said I really do want to clear my storage space of this crap. What am I 
doing wrong?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Todays job

2012-11-04 Thread Max Dillon
Late start on Saturday, full day today, have only two copper lines to braze to 
the new air handler, then electrical connections, then drain line.

Of course, once the brazing is complete, then pressure and vacuum testing of 
the new lines.

Yesterday I thought I'd done a good job brazing the connections at the outside 
unit, but I had not.  Moved the unit a little, joint failed.

Went back to brazing school, read a few articles, watched a you-tube video, 
switched to my oxygen-MAPP torch, practiced on a piece of scrap.  Figured out 
what I had done wrong (not enough heat), corrected that and got those two 
joints done.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:


So, how did it go?

Did you complete the installation?

How well does it work?

Yes, I know, questions, questions


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel

2012-11-04 Thread ernest breakfield

hi Clay!

i've no idea what a Gump is,... but would be curious to hear a 
breakdown of which of those failures you had on which model.


the large majority of BioD users here in the Berkeley fleet is 
running 616s and 617s because they have a reputation for handling 
Biofuels so well; i'm wondering if this might be an example of how 
well-deserved that reputation is.



cheers!
e

On 31/Oct/12 20:28, clay monroe wrote:

I am happy you have had such success.  I have not had that experience myself, 
so have made recommendation based on the repairs I have made myself or paid to 
have done.  The hoses I replaces where not old, but new viton from the 
dealership I bought by the meter.  Other rubber parts were either dealer or 
Rusty parts.  I also received feedback from two local BioD resellers on issues 
related to the use of B100 and from Chris Goodwin, who runs Frybrid.com and 
worked on the cars to fix the issues related to B100 usage.

BTW, I have been using BioD for a decade myself.  Once I reduced the amount of 
BioD in the tank, my issues no longer plagued me.   The stuff is not small 
scale production, but from major producers from both the midwest as well as 
Imperium, Sustainable, Propel, and other larger local refiners.  Must be the #2 
that caused my issues

clay


On Oct 30, 2012, at 9:11 PM, ernest breakfield wrote:


Clay,

i don't know where you got this from, but these concerns range from 
grossly exaggerated to simply untrue.

i've got over 80K miles on almost exclusively straight BioD in my W123 over 
the last 8 years or so, and i'm one of only thousands here in the Bay Area 
alone that have done so without problem.
i didn't replace any fuel lines; decided i'd wait to see how much truth 
there might be behind the alleged need for it, since it wasn't like fuel line 
failures are sudden or catastrophic and i would be watching fuel lines in any 
old diesel vehicle anyway. when the Return Lines *finally* began to show just 
the tiniest hint of seepage this year, i finally replaced them; all the rest of 
the lines look good, and i have no idea how old any of them were when i first 
got the car with ~120K on it.

i don't know what's allegedly supposed to happen to the IP or the 
injectors, but i haven't seen or heard of it happening to any of the BioD MBZs 
in the BioD fleet here yet. one of the reasons the MBZs are so popular for this 
sort of stuff is specifically because the inline IPs are so robust. to the 
contrary, some people claim that the lubricity of BioD is *easier* on the 
injection parts than #2.

i have no idea what BioD could do to a metal fuel tank, and have never 
before heard of any issue or concern related to such.

the one thing i do see yield to BioD is the insulating ring around the 
filler pipe; i've replaced the one in our car twice in the last 8 years. (it's 
not like that's a big deal; it's just ugly.)

as for it running just as quiet at B2 as with more, i don't have great 
hearing, but i'd have to differ there too,.. but that's not why i'm running it.


cheers!
e

'85 300D
200K+ miles (80K+ on B99)


On 30/Oct/12 16:48, clay monroe wrote:

Do not run B100.  It will eat your rubber parts and destroy your pocketbook.  
IP DV seals, injectors, fuel tank and hoses.  B20 is the strongest I would 
advise.  Much over B5 does not increase the benefit to the engine or cleaning 
up gunk.   Put a gallon in your tank from a 5 gallon container when you fill up.

B5 also gives you the mileage you expect while increasing cetane.  Not enough 
BTU in higher concentrations to improve power or MPG.  It runs just as quiet at 
B2 as with more.  You could run veggie oil for the same impact on cetane and 
smoothness

clay


On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Jon Agne wrote:


I stopped by there today on my way back from NYC (story in itself).  They have 
two blends, B5 and B100.  The B100 pump is around back, drive around the left 
side and back into it.  The guys are very helpful, and they mentioned to me 
that they get from Mainehmmm.

The car did seem to run smoother/quieter, and I did not notice any difference 
in performance.


On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:


The owner is a bit odd but the guys working there are nice. Did they say when 
the BD pump will be turned off?

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com  wrote:

It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...)

Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:43:00 -0400
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
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I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of Long Island.


On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton?

Sent 

Re: [MBZ] OT CL Ads Was CL TRUCK

2012-11-04 Thread Craig
On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 21:35:14 -0600 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/for/3380182153.html

In the ad title, you say, $400.

Near the bottom of the text, you say, If I do it, the price will go up.
$400.00.

So the price will go up from $400 to $400?

Put half-an-hour into cleaning out the ashes, scraping the surfaces with
a welder's brush and spraying $7 of high-temperature black paint on it.
Get the other stuff out of pictures 3 and 5 unless it goes with the stove,
in which case bring it from the background into the foreground. Get better
lighting, the shadows don't help. And what is that in picture 6?


Craig

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[MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-04 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I'm starting to realize more and more that I need a means to transport larger 
items.  The 240D is not cutting itas it is.  Is it realistic to put a tow hitch 
on such an underpowered vehicle.  I'm not talking about towing anything really 
heavy here. Maybe a couch or a washer or something like that.  What kind of 
hitch?  Where would it get mounted?  What about a trailer?

The other option would be to buy a 123diesel wagonbut I'm not particularly 
thrilled about adding another car to my unsustainable old car fleet.  An early 
G wagen diesel with a manny tranny would be even nicer but a bit pricey and 
hard to come by.

Thoughts?


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Re: [MBZ] 107 trans

2012-11-04 Thread Peter Frederick

Check to make sure the kickdown switch isn't stuck, too.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-04 Thread Dieselhead
A  coleman versatrailer is light and quite handy.  For what you are 
mentioning, it would be ideal.  Very versatile.


Any reputable trailer hitch place should be able to install a hitch. 
1 1/4 receiver is a good size, but they rarely stay removable.  My 
van had one and it took a lot of beating (with a 10 pounder) to get a 
hitch into it.  The hitch is never coming out of the receiver.  they 
will be melted together when the van is melted for steel.  2 
receiver is nice, but heavier than necessary.  A small bumper hitch 
might be a good solution.



I'm starting to realize more and more that I need a means to 
transport larger items.  The 240D is not cutting itas it is.  Is it 
realistic to put a tow hitch on such an underpowered vehicle.  I'm 
not talking about towing anything really heavy here. Maybe a couch 
or a washer or something like that.  What kind of hitch?  Where 
would it get mounted?  What about a trailer?


The other option would be to buy a 123diesel wagonbut I'm not 
particularly thrilled about adding another car to my unsustainable 
old car fleet.  An early G wagen diesel with a manny tranny would be 
even nicer but a bit pricey and hard to come by.


Thoughts?


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Re: [MBZ] My gas furnace

2012-11-04 Thread RELNGSON
Brain fade.

My furnace is a Trane XL90, not a Payne etc. Not that irt matters...

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel

2012-11-04 Thread clay monroe
Gump was the 72 220D.  She died a noble death when metal fatigue took out the 
cam supports

220D was given fresh fuel return lines within two weeks of purchase.  These 
failed within 14 months with B100 use.  Daily driver, so much fuel went through 
them.   Fuel lines from the fuel tank as well as the 90* lines up front failed 
during that time.   Second installation of return lines which lasted another 25 
months.  Cigar hose went smushy, as well as taking out the fuel filter gaskets. 
 Return lines dissolved and sent snot into injectors.  I had those rebuilt.  
Toward the end of the life of the second return lines I stopped using higher 
than B20.  Four years into my ownership, after I had stopped using so much 
B100, I had to do DV, since they were spewing fuel.  IP was being overloaded 
with BioD, so I had to change out IP oil twice as often as I did engine oil.

E300D was sourced in 2003.  She had been given fresh return lines, DV seals, 5k 
miles prior to my purchase.  Was running B100 in her during the same period as 
the 220D.  SWMBA was the primary driver.  This was the heyday of the B100 Mania 
in town.  Most of the stuff was coming in from the midwest and going to indy as 
well as big oil locations.   Local large producers were just getting plants 
built.  Oregon firms were pumping stuff they made.  SWMBA has family down that 
way, so we filled up when there.

Had her a year or so before rubber started to fail.  Spent the summer touring 
Mid-Atlantic and SE states, so not filling with anything but #2 for three 
months, then went back to high BioD in the fall.   Returns and fuel lines began 
leaking, which made a stink in the cabin.  SWMBA did not enjoy this, so the car 
went to the shop for fresh fuel bits.

New rubber lines all over and all was well for another year.  Fuel filter seals 
fail, return lines perforated, and fuel is leaking into the injector wells and 
filling to the point it ate the valve cover gasket.  Sloshing fuel also ate the 
fuel filler gasket.  Trunk and engine bay stink of fuel, as well as polluting 
the cabin.  More shop time to replace that mess.

Within six month, the DV seals fail.  SWMBA no longer purchases BioD, and 
forbids me to purchase it for that car.  All the damage and issues from using 
BioD sour her on the E300D, so she decides to purchase a korean car.  When the 
220D dies, I end up using the ED and in the past three years have not had any 
issues related to fuel or rubber.

clay

On Nov 4, 2012, at 7:53 PM, ernest breakfield wrote:

 hi Clay!
 
i've no idea what a Gump is,... but would be curious to hear a breakdown 
 of which of those failures you had on which model.
 
the large majority of BioD users here in the Berkeley fleet is running 
 616s and 617s because they have a reputation for handling Biofuels so well; 
 i'm wondering if this might be an example of how well-deserved that 
 reputation is.
 
 
 cheers!
 e
 
 On 31/Oct/12 20:28, clay monroe wrote:
 I am happy you have had such success.  I have not had that experience 
 myself, so have made recommendation based on the repairs I have made myself 
 or paid to have done.  The hoses I replaces where not old, but new viton 
 from the dealership I bought by the meter.  Other rubber parts were either 
 dealer or Rusty parts.  I also received feedback from two local BioD 
 resellers on issues related to the use of B100 and from Chris Goodwin, who 
 runs Frybrid.com and worked on the cars to fix the issues related to B100 
 usage.
 
 BTW, I have been using BioD for a decade myself.  Once I reduced the amount 
 of BioD in the tank, my issues no longer plagued me.   The stuff is not 
 small scale production, but from major producers from both the midwest as 
 well as Imperium, Sustainable, Propel, and other larger local refiners.  
 Must be the #2 that caused my issues
 
 clay
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 9:11 PM, ernest breakfield wrote:
 
 Clay,
 
i don't know where you got this from, but these concerns range from 
 grossly exaggerated to simply untrue.
 
i've got over 80K miles on almost exclusively straight BioD in my W123 
 over the last 8 years or so, and i'm one of only thousands here in the Bay 
 Area alone that have done so without problem.
i didn't replace any fuel lines; decided i'd wait to see how much truth 
 there might be behind the alleged need for it, since it wasn't like fuel 
 line failures are sudden or catastrophic and i would be watching fuel lines 
 in any old diesel vehicle anyway. when the Return Lines *finally* began to 
 show just the tiniest hint of seepage this year, i finally replaced them; 
 all the rest of the lines look good, and i have no idea how old any of them 
 were when i first got the car with ~120K on it.
 
i don't know what's allegedly supposed to happen to the IP or the 
 injectors, but i haven't seen or heard of it happening to any of the BioD 
 MBZs in the BioD fleet here yet. one of the reasons the MBZs are so popular 
 for this sort of 

Re: [MBZ] 240D tow hitch or wagon?

2012-11-04 Thread clay monroe
You should be able to get a hitch in there.  It would likely be mounted under 
the trunk, straddling the fuel tank and bolted to the sheet metal of the trunk. 
 U-haul shop figures it out.  My sister had one added to her 1999 volvo wagon 
this summer for about $400.  Might need all of a 1.5 ball, but you may need to 
upgrade the springs in the rear for heavy hauling so the tongue does not drag 
the back end down.  Since you are going to be pretty close to the ground, you 
would be able to use those HF trailers with bagel wheels.

clay


On Nov 4, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

 I'm starting to realize more and more that I need a means to transport larger 
 items.  The 240D is not cutting itas it is.  Is it realistic to put a tow 
 hitch on such an underpowered vehicle.  I'm not talking about towing anything 
 really heavy here. Maybe a couch or a washer or something like that.  What 
 kind of hitch?  Where would it get mounted?  What about a trailer?
 
 The other option would be to buy a 123diesel wagonbut I'm not particularly 
 thrilled about adding another car to my unsustainable old car fleet.  An 
 early G wagen diesel with a manny tranny would be even nicer but a bit pricey 
 and hard to come by.
 
 Thoughts?
 
 
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