Re: [MBZ] Anyone headed beantown to Chi/ORD?
I'll be in Boston in four months or less, then later in Springfield IL. Send me the pick-up address. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I lost my head. Rumor has it that an Irishman in Boston has it. Actually, I bought an OM603 head in Boston area, and if anyone has room for it and a vac and PS pump headed west, I'd like to get them closer to home. Chicago, Cape Girardeau, Mo, Mobile, Gulfport, or Des moines would all be places close enough to my normal travels. Boston is way out of my routes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Engine Vacuum Couple Hose hookup 240D
I drove to my buddy's garage 30 miles away to stay overnite so that I could adjust my valves on a cold engine. I have a '83 240d. When I went to hook up the black vacuum plug, all the 5 nipples broke apart. I then had to pull the hoses out the plug to directly connect them to the vacuum lever units just so I could get home. I got a new black plastic engine vacuum couple that goes on the top the valve cover. It still doesn't shift right. Could someone forward me a picture of the correct vacuum hose setup that enters into the black rubber plug? There are 5 hose connections on the exterior side.[ 6 on the inside ].Again this is for a 240D setup. You could send the pic offlist if you want. Thanks for your help.And Happy Thanksgiving everybody. Bob 1983 240d 196,500 mi. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
They may have 'went out' from the factory but became a pricey aftermarket item. I thought running boards went out by 1946, except for the lowly MB 170, as a prewar holdover. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer protection
'Thought that was tyres, or have you guys joined US on that? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer protection This is what ya need http://cheezburger.com/6690165504 Hendrik who is off to fit some old tires to the car On 21/11/12 11:16, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
I believe the ground is in the trunk beside the antenna. Take a look, loose connector, broken wire, corroded terminal are all possible. There will be a ground for the antenna, the brake and turn lights, and the plate lights all together if I remember correctly. Peter Not directly at least. THe grounds by the antenna are clean and tight. I loosened the bolt, and re-tightened with no effect. The wires from the trunk lid appear to disappear by the LR speaker. That does not appear to be consistent with going to the ground near the antenna. Next is to try to take the cover off the speaker, if I can figure out how that is done. Worst case, I can run a new wire through the trunk lid to ground. Anyone been into the rear speakers of a 124? How do you get the cover off? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy Tom McCahill, Mechanix Illustrated, 1960s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
A moose once bit my sister Dan not in charge of the credits On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote: On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy Tom McCahill, Mechanix Illustrated, 1960s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
We finally got back to the moose, it has been a while. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer A moose once bit my sister Dan not in charge of the credits On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote: On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy Tom McCahill, Mechanix Illustrated, 1960s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
But it's not Friday! How quickly the traditions are forgotten. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: We finally got back to the moose, it has been a while. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer A moose once bit my sister Dan not in charge of the credits On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote: On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy Tom McCahill, Mechanix Illustrated, 1960s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
It's kind of like Friday since we have tomorrow off. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer But it's not Friday! How quickly the traditions are forgotten. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: We finally got back to the moose, it has been a while. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer A moose once bit my sister Dan not in charge of the credits On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote: On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy Tom McCahill, Mechanix Illustrated, 1960s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 13:20:48 -0500 Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: It's kind of like Friday since we have tomorrow off. Yup. Craig attachment: moose.03.sm.jpg___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
Remind me what car. I'll try to find it in EPC. 'Noticed that some cars have a grounding point for RIGHT tail lamp assembly at right rear of trunk behind panel. Wilton. - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem I believe the ground is in the trunk beside the antenna. Take a look, loose connector, broken wire, corroded terminal are all possible. There will be a ground for the antenna, the brake and turn lights, and the plate lights all together if I remember correctly. Peter Not directly at least. THe grounds by the antenna are clean and tight. I loosened the bolt, and re-tightened with no effect. The wires from the trunk lid appear to disappear by the LR speaker. That does not appear to be consistent with going to the ground near the antenna. Next is to try to take the cover off the speaker, if I can figure out how that is done. Worst case, I can run a new wire through the trunk lid to ground. Anyone been into the rear speakers of a 124? How do you get the cover off? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
I'll look again; 'thought I was looking for TAIL lights. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem Remind me what car. I'll try to find it in EPC. 'Noticed that some cars have a grounding point for RIGHT tail lamp assembly at right rear of trunk behind panel. Wilton. - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem I believe the ground is in the trunk beside the antenna. Take a look, loose connector, broken wire, corroded terminal are all possible. There will be a ground for the antenna, the brake and turn lights, and the plate lights all together if I remember correctly. Peter Not directly at least. THe grounds by the antenna are clean and tight. I loosened the bolt, and re-tightened with no effect. The wires from the trunk lid appear to disappear by the LR speaker. That does not appear to be consistent with going to the ground near the antenna. Next is to try to take the cover off the speaker, if I can figure out how that is done. Worst case, I can run a new wire through the trunk lid to ground. Anyone been into the rear speakers of a 124? How do you get the cover off? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
License plate ground (left and right): Left side of trunk, below hinge, behind panel. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem I'll look again; 'thought I was looking for TAIL lights. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem Remind me what car. I'll try to find it in EPC. 'Noticed that some cars have a grounding point for RIGHT tail lamp assembly at right rear of trunk behind panel. Wilton. - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem I believe the ground is in the trunk beside the antenna. Take a look, loose connector, broken wire, corroded terminal are all possible. There will be a ground for the antenna, the brake and turn lights, and the plate lights all together if I remember correctly. Peter Not directly at least. THe grounds by the antenna are clean and tight. I loosened the bolt, and re-tightened with no effect. The wires from the trunk lid appear to disappear by the LR speaker. That does not appear to be consistent with going to the ground near the antenna. Next is to try to take the cover off the speaker, if I can figure out how that is done. Worst case, I can run a new wire through the trunk lid to ground. Anyone been into the rear speakers of a 124? How do you get the cover off? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
Sure has..lol Mike On Nov 21, 2012 12:20 PM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote: We finally got back to the moose, it has been a while. Rusty Cullens buyMBparts, Inc. 6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd. Suite 260 Atlanta, GA 30360 800-741-5252 770-452-7320 -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer A moose once bit my sister Dan not in charge of the credits On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote: On 20/11/2012 6:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Bambi is nothing, you want damage go hit Bullwinkle. A really small moose is as big as a really big deer. Hit a 1200# moose and you don't care about the car, the question is Did anybody survive? -Curt I have a cousin who hit 3 moose about 40 years ago. He was roaring down a gravel country road and came over a rise and there were 5 moose standing on the road. He took out 3 of them but had the sense to throw himself down on the seat so he did not get hurt. Try that today with bucket seats and consoles and shoulder belts etc. Back then the car had a bench seat and no seatbelts. Randy Tom McCahill, Mechanix Illustrated, 1960s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
License plate ground (left and right): Left side of trunk, below hinge, behind panel. Wilton Thanks. Found the problem. It was barely noticeable inside the woven cable bundle that comes out of the trunk lid. A rough spot, with the woven cover pulled away some. I decided to investigate, and when I cut and pulled the woven jacket away, there were 5 wires. 3 cut in two. 2 with damage to the insulation. After repair, all the lights work. The jacket was not damaged. I did not find it until I crawled into the trunk and felt along the wire bundle. So, the grounding points are ok. Just a cut wire, but hard to find. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT The greatest hack of all time
Caltech, the MIT of the west. --R On 11/20/2012 10:17 AM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:37:51 -0500 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Well, maybe turning the great dome into a large breast might be in the running, or the police car on top, but this is right up there https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=MLg2XpY0L3w How about the changing of the instructions for a football team's card section when they were playing in the Rose Bowl to say CALTECH on national television instead of the team's name? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
I am in NC. Crossed the border and gas prices went up $0.26/gal. And all kinds of signs warning of impending doom for doing stuff that is natural and normal. And here in Chapel Hill every other car is plastered with ObamaBiden stickers. Piouses have more stickers for Equality and Diversity and Coexist and rainbows and everything else. Yesterday I creeped in a 20mi traffic jam on I-40, normal afternoon. I presume they would pull me over for any infraction just to get more money to support the socialist paradise. BTW on your license plate deal you need to clean all the contacts with some fine sandpaper, see if that helps. That aluminum or whatever they use gets all goobered up with AlO and won't conduct electrons. --R (who has found solace in a 10% ABV Imperial Amber Ale) On 11/20/2012 5:28 PM, WILTON wrote: Not required in NC. Some cars have 'em, of course, but my 22-year-old and 26 year-old MB's don't. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem On 20/11/2012 12:12 PM, Dieselhead wrote: SWMBO got pulled over for no license plate lights on the 87 300D. Bulbs are good. 0 volts between the contacts. Fuses good. ~12 volts from the hot license plate light terminal to the body inside the trunk (but not the lid.) So it appears there is a fault in the circuit to ground. Anyone BTDT? It looks like I can strip the wiring up by the left speaker and ground it to the body there without disrupting a lot. Is there a better place under the mats to check for ground? The car is not rusty. TX car. ___ Do you folks south of the border have day time running lights yet? The gendarmes have been pulling folks over here if the day time running lights are out. A $300 ticket. Not really something that one would think to check on regularly. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
On 21/11/2012 11:44 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: I am in NC. Crossed the border and gas prices went up $0.26/gal. And all kinds of signs warning of impending doom for doing stuff that is natural and normal. And here in Chapel Hill every other car is plastered with ObamaBiden stickers. Piouses have more stickers for Equality and Diversity and Coexist and rainbows and everything else. Yesterday I creeped in a 20mi traffic jam on I-40, normal afternoon. I presume they would pull me over for any infraction just to get more money to support the socialist paradise. BTW on your license plate deal you need to clean all the contacts with some fine sandpaper, see if that helps. That aluminum or whatever they use gets all goobered up with AlO and won't conduct electrons. --R (who has found solace in a 10% ABV Imperial Amber Ale) NO, no, no don't you remember, you must use that fancy stuff - DeOxit or some such. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gl and the deer
I have related this story in the past, which I remember from being a teenager. We were visiting my mother's friend who was a nurse, and related the story that she was driving to work one morning at like 5AM in her VW bug. Comes around a curve and there is a mule in the road, which she hits and proceeds on a bit until stopped. She gets out to see what had happened, the mule had rolled up and over the bug and landed back on its feet, was sorta shaking off the experience and ambled off. The bug was undamaged other than some mule hair. She was rattled but given the animal and the car were OK proceeded on to work. This story made an awesome impression on me. --R On 11/20/2012 7:51 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: Drive a Saab...the odd shape is supposed to be designed to handle moose hits. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
In Asheville NC now. Paid 3.99 for diesel here, was 3.75 in Charleston. Today we did chimney rock, lake lure. Star gazing tonight with night vision goggles. Going to try to find a cave with bats for daughter tomorrow. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I am in NC. Crossed the border and gas prices went up $0.26/gal. And all kinds of signs warning of impending doom for doing stuff that is natural and normal. And here in Chapel Hill every other car is plastered with ObamaBiden stickers. Piouses have more stickers for Equality and Diversity and Coexist and rainbows and everything else. Yesterday I creeped in a 20mi traffic jam on I-40, normal afternoon. I presume they would pull me over for any infraction just to get more money to support the socialist paradise. BTW on your license plate deal you need to clean all the contacts with some fine sandpaper, see if that helps. That aluminum or whatever they use gets all goobered up with AlO and won't conduct electrons. --R (who has found solace in a 10% ABV Imperial Amber Ale) On 11/20/2012 5:28 PM, WILTON wrote: Not required in NC. Some cars have 'em, of course, but my 22-year-old and 26 year-old MB's don't. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem On 20/11/2012 12:12 PM, Dieselhead wrote: SWMBO got pulled over for no license plate lights on the 87 300D. Bulbs are good. 0 volts between the contacts. Fuses good. ~12 volts from the hot license plate light terminal to the body inside the trunk (but not the lid.) So it appears there is a fault in the circuit to ground. Anyone BTDT? It looks like I can strip the wiring up by the left speaker and ground it to the body there without disrupting a lot. Is there a better place under the mats to check for ground? The car is not rusty. TX car. ___ Do you folks south of the border have day time running lights yet? The gendarmes have been pulling folks over here if the day time running lights are out. A $300 ticket. Not really something that one would think to check on regularly. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
ATTABOY! My suspicions confirmed. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem License plate ground (left and right): Left side of trunk, below hinge, behind panel. Wilton Thanks. Found the problem. It was barely noticeable inside the woven cable bundle that comes out of the trunk lid. A rough spot, with the woven cover pulled away some. I decided to investigate, and when I cut and pulled the woven jacket away, there were 5 wires. 3 cut in two. 2 with damage to the insulation. After repair, all the lights work. The jacket was not damaged. I did not find it until I crawled into the trunk and felt along the wire bundle. So, the grounding points are ok. Just a cut wire, but hard to find. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT The greatest hack of all time
In Georgia they call Harvard the Emory of the North. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Caltech, the MIT of the west. --R On 11/20/2012 10:17 AM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:37:51 -0500 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Well, maybe turning the great dome into a large breast might be in the running, or the police car on top, but this is right up there https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=MLg2XpY0L3w How about the changing of the instructions for a football team's card section when they were playing in the Rose Bowl to say CALTECH on national television instead of the team's name? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
I guess it just confirms you hafta pay a little more to live in Paradise. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem In Asheville NC now. Paid 3.99 for diesel here, was 3.75 in Charleston. Today we did chimney rock, lake lure. Star gazing tonight with night vision goggles. Going to try to find a cave with bats for daughter tomorrow. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I am in NC. Crossed the border and gas prices went up $0.26/gal. And all kinds of signs warning of impending doom for doing stuff that is natural and normal. And here in Chapel Hill every other car is plastered with ObamaBiden stickers. Piouses have more stickers for Equality and Diversity and Coexist and rainbows and everything else. Yesterday I creeped in a 20mi traffic jam on I-40, normal afternoon. I presume they would pull me over for any infraction just to get more money to support the socialist paradise. BTW on your license plate deal you need to clean all the contacts with some fine sandpaper, see if that helps. That aluminum or whatever they use gets all goobered up with AlO and won't conduct electrons. --R (who has found solace in a 10% ABV Imperial Amber Ale) On 11/20/2012 5:28 PM, WILTON wrote: Not required in NC. Some cars have 'em, of course, but my 22-year-old and 26 year-old MB's don't. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem On 20/11/2012 12:12 PM, Dieselhead wrote: SWMBO got pulled over for no license plate lights on the 87 300D. Bulbs are good. 0 volts between the contacts. Fuses good. ~12 volts from the hot license plate light terminal to the body inside the trunk (but not the lid.) So it appears there is a fault in the circuit to ground. Anyone BTDT? It looks like I can strip the wiring up by the left speaker and ground it to the body there without disrupting a lot. Is there a better place under the mats to check for ground? The car is not rusty. TX car. ___ Do you folks south of the border have day time running lights yet? The gendarmes have been pulling folks over here if the day time running lights are out. A $300 ticket. Not really something that one would think to check on regularly. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
Special message to Max and anyone else who has recently BTDT: Looks like I get to change my first OM 603 head gasket. SDL has oil smoke, and oil running out the exhaust. Turbo compressed air outlet to the crossover pipe is clean as a whistle, so no turbo failure. So, I need the obvious: head gasket kit head bolts (or carefully measure stretch) valve seals turbo seal kit if not included in the head set (orings for drain, gasket for supply) Injector nozzle heat shields (if not in head kit) Hose and a plastic bag to seal up nozzle holders and DV unions in lieu of a dozen capplugs of the right size. Things that I probably don't need as they are recent: valve cover gasket injector line clips Timing chain and guides Things I may need: 17 head or 22 head (have one in Boston. Just need to get it west) Anything I am missing on these three lists? Any special tools needed aside from the special socket for the head bolts? I may be taking the head off Fri or Sat. I won't get it back on until Christmas time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
On 21/11/2012 4:40 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Special message to Max and anyone else who has recently BTDT: Looks like I get to change my first OM 603 head gasket. SDL has oil smoke, and oil running out the exhaust. Turbo compressed air outlet to the crossover pipe is clean as a whistle, so no turbo failure. So, I need the obvious: head gasket kit head bolts (or carefully measure stretch) valve seals turbo seal kit if not included in the head set (orings for drain, gasket for supply) Injector nozzle heat shields (if not in head kit) Hose and a plastic bag to seal up nozzle holders and DV unions in lieu of a dozen capplugs of the right size. Things that I probably don't need as they are recent: valve cover gasket injector line clips Timing chain and guides Things I may need: 17 head or 22 head (have one in Boston. Just need to get it west) Anything I am missing on these three lists? Any special tools needed aside from the special socket for the head bolts? I may be taking the head off Fri or Sat. I won't get it back on until Christmas time. ___ You need warm weather or a heated work space! Randy who has neither at the moment. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
BTW, Rich, have you ever eaten a Mama Dip's? On W. Rosemary St., Chapel ill, 'bout 4 1/2 blocks west of N. Columbia St. 'Took Grndson to lunch at Breadman's on Rosemary Sunday before last; 'bout 3 1/2 blocks west of Columbia St. Place was packed; 'think SWMBO and I were the only non-students there. Used to hear a lot about Mama Dip's, but we've never been there; 'thought we might try it next time we're there, 'less you go first and nix (nicht?) it. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem I guess it just confirms you hafta pay a little more to live in Paradise. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem In Asheville NC now. Paid 3.99 for diesel here, was 3.75 in Charleston. Today we did chimney rock, lake lure. Star gazing tonight with night vision goggles. Going to try to find a cave with bats for daughter tomorrow. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I am in NC. Crossed the border and gas prices went up $0.26/gal. And all kinds of signs warning of impending doom for doing stuff that is natural and normal. And here in Chapel Hill every other car is plastered with ObamaBiden stickers. Piouses have more stickers for Equality and Diversity and Coexist and rainbows and everything else. Yesterday I creeped in a 20mi traffic jam on I-40, normal afternoon. I presume they would pull me over for any infraction just to get more money to support the socialist paradise. BTW on your license plate deal you need to clean all the contacts with some fine sandpaper, see if that helps. That aluminum or whatever they use gets all goobered up with AlO and won't conduct electrons. --R (who has found solace in a 10% ABV Imperial Amber Ale) On 11/20/2012 5:28 PM, WILTON wrote: Not required in NC. Some cars have 'em, of course, but my 22-year-old and 26 year-old MB's don't. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem On 20/11/2012 12:12 PM, Dieselhead wrote: SWMBO got pulled over for no license plate lights on the 87 300D. Bulbs are good. 0 volts between the contacts. Fuses good. ~12 volts from the hot license plate light terminal to the body inside the trunk (but not the lid.) So it appears there is a fault in the circuit to ground. Anyone BTDT? It looks like I can strip the wiring up by the left speaker and ground it to the body there without disrupting a lot. Is there a better place under the mats to check for ground? The car is not rusty. TX car. ___ Do you folks south of the border have day time running lights yet? The gendarmes have been pulling folks over here if the day time running lights are out. A $300 ticket. Not really something that one would think to check on regularly. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
[MBZ] Fuul price WAS:124 license light problem
Guzzlene was 3.29 when I left home on Sun. As I drove South, the price went down. First fill ~40 miles from home was 3.08. Most prices for the next 900 miles were 3.03 to 3.09 with a few 3.17. South of Jackson, MS the prices went up again to 3.14 to 3.17. I saw Dissel fuul for 3.65 to 3.99 No real pattern to those prices in relation to Guzzeline. When crude was in this range and GW was prez, gasoline was a buck cheaper. Try to tell me fat georgie Sore ass is not raking in those bucks while he breaks the country? 'Course GW was catering to his oil buddies.As Bill C. (as Noah) sez, Rght I guess it just confirms you hafta pay a little more to live in Paradise. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem In Asheville NC now. Paid 3.99 for diesel here, was 3.75 in Charleston. Today we did chimney rock, lake lure. Star gazing tonight with night vision goggles. Going to try to find a cave with bats for daughter tomorrow. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I am in NC. Crossed the border and gas prices went up $0.26/gal. And all kinds of signs warning of impending doom for doing stuff that is natural and normal. And here in Chapel Hill every other car is plastered with ObamaBiden stickers. Piouses have more stickers for Equality and Diversity and Coexist and rainbows and everything else. Yesterday I creeped in a 20mi traffic jam on I-40, normal afternoon. I presume they would pull me over for any infraction just to get more money to support the socialist paradise. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
'Hope it goes well. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 5:40 PM Subject: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket Special message to Max and anyone else who has recently BTDT: Looks like I get to change my first OM 603 head gasket. SDL has oil smoke, and oil running out the exhaust. Turbo compressed air outlet to the crossover pipe is clean as a whistle, so no turbo failure. So, I need the obvious: head gasket kit head bolts (or carefully measure stretch) valve seals turbo seal kit if not included in the head set (orings for drain, gasket for supply) Injector nozzle heat shields (if not in head kit) Hose and a plastic bag to seal up nozzle holders and DV unions in lieu of a dozen capplugs of the right size. Things that I probably don't need as they are recent: valve cover gasket injector line clips Timing chain and guides Things I may need: 17 head or 22 head (have one in Boston. Just need to get it west) Anything I am missing on these three lists? Any special tools needed aside from the special socket for the head bolts? I may be taking the head off Fri or Sat. I won't get it back on until Christmas time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
You staying in Paradise for the holiday/weekend, or headed back to Chuckietown? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem I am in NC. Crossed the border and gas prices went up $0.26/gal. And all kinds of signs warning of impending doom for doing stuff that is natural and normal. And here in Chapel Hill every other car is plastered with ObamaBiden stickers. Piouses have more stickers for Equality and Diversity and Coexist and rainbows and everything else. Yesterday I creeped in a 20mi traffic jam on I-40, normal afternoon. I presume they would pull me over for any infraction just to get more money to support the socialist paradise. BTW on your license plate deal you need to clean all the contacts with some fine sandpaper, see if that helps. That aluminum or whatever they use gets all goobered up with AlO and won't conduct electrons. --R (who has found solace in a 10% ABV Imperial Amber Ale) On 11/20/2012 5:28 PM, WILTON wrote: Not required in NC. Some cars have 'em, of course, but my 22-year-old and 26 year-old MB's don't. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem On 20/11/2012 12:12 PM, Dieselhead wrote: SWMBO got pulled over for no license plate lights on the 87 300D. Bulbs are good. 0 volts between the contacts. Fuses good. ~12 volts from the hot license plate light terminal to the body inside the trunk (but not the lid.) So it appears there is a fault in the circuit to ground. Anyone BTDT? It looks like I can strip the wiring up by the left speaker and ground it to the body there without disrupting a lot. Is there a better place under the mats to check for ground? The car is not rusty. TX car. ___ Do you folks south of the border have day time running lights yet? The gendarmes have been pulling folks over here if the day time running lights are out. A $300 ticket. Not really something that one would think to check on regularly. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
If I had time and parts, that is no problem this week. 70s all week and sunny. If you would go 1700 miles due south, you'd be warmer too. On 21/11/2012 4:40 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Special message to Max and anyone else who has recently BTDT: Looks like I get to change my first OM 603 head gasket. SDL has oil smoke, and oil running out the exhaust. Turbo compressed air outlet to the crossover pipe is clean as a whistle, so no turbo failure. So, I need the obvious: head gasket kit head bolts (or carefully measure stretch) valve seals turbo seal kit if not included in the head set (orings for drain, gasket for supply) Injector nozzle heat shields (if not in head kit) Hose and a plastic bag to seal up nozzle holders and DV unions in lieu of a dozen capplugs of the right size. Things that I probably don't need as they are recent: valve cover gasket injector line clips Timing chain and guides Things I may need: 17 head or 22 head (have one in Boston. Just need to get it west) Anything I am missing on these three lists? Any special tools needed aside from the special socket for the head bolts? I may be taking the head off Fri or Sat. I won't get it back on until Christmas time. ___ You need warm weather or a heated work space! Randy who has neither at the moment. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
True enough. Would not want to do that outdoors down there come summer. Randy On 21/11/2012 4:57 PM, Dieselhead wrote: If I had time and parts, that is no problem this week. 70s all week and sunny. If you would go 1700 miles due south, you'd be warmer too. On 21/11/2012 4:40 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Special message to Max and anyone else who has recently BTDT: Looks like I get to change my first OM 603 head gasket. SDL has oil smoke, and oil running out the exhaust. Turbo compressed air outlet to the crossover pipe is clean as a whistle, so no turbo failure. So, I need the obvious: head gasket kit head bolts (or carefully measure stretch) valve seals turbo seal kit if not included in the head set (orings for drain, gasket for supply) Injector nozzle heat shields (if not in head kit) Hose and a plastic bag to seal up nozzle holders and DV unions in lieu of a dozen capplugs of the right size. Things that I probably don't need as they are recent: valve cover gasket injector line clips Timing chain and guides Things I may need: 17 head or 22 head (have one in Boston. Just need to get it west) Anything I am missing on these three lists? Any special tools needed aside from the special socket for the head bolts? I may be taking the head off Fri or Sat. I won't get it back on until Christmas time. ___ You need warm weather or a heated work space! Randy who has neither at the moment. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
Depending on how it goes, you might need the ball bearing thrust washer pin puller for the chain guides. Might not since you indicate that you've replaced them recently. I found that my usual bolt, stack of washers and a socket did not work on the 603 head. New valve guides might be needed as well --- Be carefull pulling it all out if you leave the turbo attached to the head as you pull it out - the turbo oil supply line likes to get catch and bend in strange ways that make it a challenge to re-assemble. BTDT. Good luck! On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Special message to Max and anyone else who has recently BTDT: Looks like I get to change my first OM 603 head gasket. SDL has oil smoke, and oil running out the exhaust. Turbo compressed air outlet to the crossover pipe is clean as a whistle, so no turbo failure. So, I need the obvious: head gasket kit head bolts (or carefully measure stretch) valve seals turbo seal kit if not included in the head set (orings for drain, gasket for supply) Injector nozzle heat shields (if not in head kit) Hose and a plastic bag to seal up nozzle holders and DV unions in lieu of a dozen capplugs of the right size. Things that I probably don't need as they are recent: valve cover gasket injector line clips Timing chain and guides Things I may need: 17 head or 22 head (have one in Boston. Just need to get it west) Anything I am missing on these three lists? Any special tools needed aside from the special socket for the head bolts? I may be taking the head off Fri or Sat. I won't get it back on until Christmas time. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 alignment
Philip wrote: Download 40-200.pdf 40-320-intro.pdf w123-toein-alignment_howto (print is higher resolution) Thanks - good reading material and record of experience for us to use. All 4 tires are wearing excessive at inside, hence mechanic son sez do alignment. I hope he can wade through these instructions along with me - great information. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone headed beantown to Chi/ORD?
Jon wrote: Ouch...Just drove from Maine to Ohio, and then to Chicago this past week.. Gonna have time to put face to names at the hot dog place? Or are you already back east? mao in Elgin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 alignment
Not to sound like a broken record but when they do the alignment the first thing that should be done is to check for proper ride height. Alignment cannot be done correctly if the ride height is not right. How many 30 year old cars still sit at the proper height? There is no way to adjust the rear. If it is eating tires on the inside on the rear there is either loose parts or sagged springs. Mike On Nov 21, 2012 8:11 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Philip wrote: Download 40-200.pdf 40-320-intro.pdf w123-toein-alignment_howto (print is higher resolution) Thanks - good reading material and record of experience for us to use. All 4 tires are wearing excessive at inside, hence mechanic son sez do alignment. I hope he can wade through these instructions along with me - great information. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 alignment
Mike wrote: Not to sound like a broken record but when they do the alignment the first thing that should be done is to check for proper ride height. Good information - thanks. I will be sure this information is given to my sons who drive the car. Wouldn't the BeeLine shop have tested that geometry ride height when they did their looksee of geometry, worn parts, etc? ...at least that would seem the responsible way of doing a job for a customer... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 alignment
Wouldn't the BeeLine shop have tested that geometry ride height when they did their looksee of geometry, worn parts, etc? I was present for my 190D's alignment. Ride height was _not_ checked. I was the one who figured out that the alignment station across the bay was shining its lasers into my car's receptors, causing all sorts of havoc! Somebody had left that station on, though nobody was working on it that day. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 alignment
-- Jim wrote: Somebody had left that station on, though nobody was working on it that day. Oh boy!! More info to drive us deeper to DIY. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
I think Rolf said the 606 turbo head gasket is preferred. I used the kit from Rusty, only thing missing was gasket for turbo oil drain to block. However, every other time I drive the car, the upper radiator hose gets pressurized. Head was pressure tested by machine shop. I may try tightening the head bolts. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Special message to Max and anyone else who has recently BTDT: Looks like I get to change my first OM 603 head gasket. SDL has oil smoke, and oil running out the exhaust. Turbo compressed air outlet to the crossover pipe is clean as a whistle, so no turbo failure. So, I need the obvious: head gasket kit head bolts (or carefully measure stretch) valve seals turbo seal kit if not included in the head set (orings for drain, gasket for supply) Injector nozzle heat shields (if not in head kit) Hose and a plastic bag to seal up nozzle holders and DV unions in lieu of a dozen capplugs of the right size. Things that I probably don't need as they are recent: valve cover gasket injector line clips Timing chain and guides Things I may need: 17 head or 22 head (have one in Boston. Just need to get it west) Anything I am missing on these three lists? Any special tools needed aside from the special socket for the head bolts? I may be taking the head off Fri or Sat. I won't get it back on until Christmas time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
On Nov 21, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like I get to change my first OM 603 head gasket. SDL has oil smoke, and oil running out the exhaust. Anything I am missing on these three lists? Piston rings? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
Engine hoist! I'm pretty sure I'm going to pull mine again. I'm thinking about leaving intake manifold attached this time, but the glow plug harness may be an issue. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Depending on how it goes, you might need the ball bearing thrust washer pin puller for the chain guides. Might not since you indicate that you've replaced them recently. I found that my usual bolt, stack of washers and a socket did not work on the 603 head. New valve guides might be needed as well --- Be carefull pulling it all out if you leave the turbo attached to the head as you pull it out - the turbo oil supply line likes to get catch and bend in strange ways that make it a challenge to re-assemble. BTDT. Good luck! On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Special message to Max and anyone else who has recently BTDT: Looks like I get to change my first OM 603 head gasket. SDL has oil smoke, and oil running out the exhaust. Turbo compressed air outlet to the crossover pipe is clean as a whistle, so no turbo failure. So, I need the obvious: head gasket kit head bolts (or carefully measure stretch) valve seals turbo seal kit if not included in the head set (orings for drain, gasket for supply) Injector nozzle heat shields (if not in head kit) Hose and a plastic bag to seal up nozzle holders and DV unions in lieu of a dozen capplugs of the right size. Things that I probably don't need as they are recent: valve cover gasket injector line clips Timing chain and guides Things I may need: 17 head or 22 head (have one in Boston. Just need to get it west) Anything I am missing on these three lists? Any special tools needed aside from the special socket for the head bolts? I may be taking the head off Fri or Sat. I won't get it back on until Christmas time. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 alignment
I think complete suspension rebuild, then alignment. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Philip wrote: Download 40-200.pdf 40-320-intro.pdf w123-toein-alignment_howto (print is higher resolution) Thanks - good reading material and record of experience for us to use. All 4 tires are wearing excessive at inside, hence mechanic son sez do alignment. I hope he can wade through these instructions along with me - great information. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 alignment
Rear tars wearing on the inside is confirmation of worn out rubber parts. Subframe bushings, and the bushings on the control arms where they attach to the subframe. Diff mount, unless that was recently done. I used a 3/16 drill to drill out the rubber on the control arm bushings so they can be pushed out with a c clamp. Your son may have access to a press to press them out. There is more than one way to get them out. New ones press in with Dawn lube. Same lube for subframe bushings. On my 240D, removing the subframe bushing bolts took a 6' cheater and all my strength with my feet against a 12 x 12 that was holding up the rear of the car. Use a lot of caution to have big blocks or cribbing under the car. An old fashioned 2 arm air bumper jack would be a good thing to have under the back bumper as a safety. Rusty has available eccentric rear control arm bushings. I used them. It was not too much correction. So I think that is worthwhile. Not terribly hard other than the subframe bushing bolts. Use neverseez on the subframe bushing bolts and the control arm bolts if you choose to. (careful to keep the neverseez off the rubber.) I have not seen saggy springs on MBs newer than 1962. K'lebs paper delivery TD may be an exception. Gross overloading could ruin springs. Anecdotal evidence says that sometimes the springs are too short. (sprung) Front, I have not had to mess with ...yet. Other than ball joints, tie rod ends, center link and idler bushings. But I have not had to change front subframe bushings on anything. 126 107, 108 etc have the same rear end problems. I never fixed the first SDL until I put new bushings un the control arms and subframe mounts. As others have said: get the ride height right first. The rear subframe/diff mount and control arm bushings are the way to do this in the rear. If the front is out of adjustment, then similar may be in order. One other thing that most people neglect: Shocks. Many people get sold shocks from snears or other garbage. (mon-row) The ride height, and suspension geometry will not be right without the proper upward force from the shocks. If the bilsteins are dead, replace them before alignment. If the shock are not the proper pressurized shocks, dump them and get bilsteins, even if they are used. The 'mercuns have lernt, since most of the deetriot iron now uses similar suspension to MBs of 25-30 years ago. So snears and mon-row will sell you mcPherson strut cartridges and even gas pressure shocks. My experience with these are that they are not worth the money. Best to use OEM shocks on MBs, Yeah, I know, it gets pricey for an old car. I bought used bilsteins for the car I put your engine in. Philip wrote: Download 40-200.pdf 40-320-intro.pdf w123-toein-alignment_howto (print is higher resolution) Thanks - good reading material and record of experience for us to use. All 4 tires are wearing excessive at inside, hence mechanic son sez do alignment. I hope he can wade through these instructions along with me - great information. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
Not doing rings for a head gasket. On Nov 21, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like I get to change my first OM 603 head gasket. SDL has oil smoke, and oil running out the exhaust. Anything I am missing on these three lists? Piston rings? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
Brought that along this trip. I figured this head is longer and more awkward, and depending on how much hardware I leave hang on it...could be heavier than a 4 cyl iron head. (621/615/616) Therefore, an engine hoist might be prudent for lifting the head. Engine hoist! I'm pretty sure I'm going to pull mine again. I'm thinking about leaving intake manifold attached this time, but the glow plug harness may be an issue. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
Depending on how it goes, you might need the ball bearing thrust washer pin puller for the chain guides. Might not since you indicate that you've replaced them recently. I found that my usual bolt, stack of washers and a socket did not work on the 603 head. New valve guides might be needed as well --- Be carefull pulling it all out if you leave the turbo attached to the head as you pull it out - the turbo oil supply line likes to get catch and bend in strange ways that make it a challenge to re-assemble. BTDT. Good luck! -- OK Don 2001 ML320 I have managed so far with sockets and washers etc. I am not sure how much i will leave in the car and what I will leave on the head. I'm thinking the turbo may be best to leave hang on the exhaust pipe. But I can remove the drain tube and supply tube first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
We're in Myrtle, gas $2.99. I paid $3.61 at an NC gas station along the way, advertised no ethanol (other local prices $3.3x). I think that was the first tank of only-gas the van has ever had. Best, Tim On Nov 21, 2012 5:27 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: In Asheville NC now. Paid 3.99 for diesel here, was 3.75 in Charleston. Today we did chimney rock, lake lure. Star gazing tonight with night vision goggles. Going to try to find a cave with bats for daughter tomorrow. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I am in NC. Crossed the border and gas prices went up $0.26/gal. And all kinds of signs warning of impending doom for doing stuff that is natural and normal. And here in Chapel Hill every other car is plastered with ObamaBiden stickers. Piouses have more stickers for Equality and Diversity and Coexist and rainbows and everything else. Yesterday I creeped in a 20mi traffic jam on I-40, normal afternoon. I presume they would pull me over for any infraction just to get more money to support the socialist paradise. BTW on your license plate deal you need to clean all the contacts with some fine sandpaper, see if that helps. That aluminum or whatever they use gets all goobered up with AlO and won't conduct electrons. --R (who has found solace in a 10% ABV Imperial Amber Ale) On 11/20/2012 5:28 PM, WILTON wrote: Not required in NC. Some cars have 'em, of course, but my 22-year-old and 26 year-old MB's don't. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem On 20/11/2012 12:12 PM, Dieselhead wrote: SWMBO got pulled over for no license plate lights on the 87 300D. Bulbs are good. 0 volts between the contacts. Fuses good. ~12 volts from the hot license plate light terminal to the body inside the trunk (but not the lid.) So it appears there is a fault in the circuit to ground. Anyone BTDT? It looks like I can strip the wiring up by the left speaker and ground it to the body there without disrupting a lot. Is there a better place under the mats to check for ground? The car is not rusty. TX car. ___ Do you folks south of the border have day time running lights yet? The gendarmes have been pulling folks over here if the day time running lights are out. A $300 ticket. Not really something that one would think to check on regularly. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone headed beantown to Chi/ORD?
Seattle.. On Nov 21, 2012, at 8:23 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Jon wrote: Ouch...Just drove from Maine to Ohio, and then to Chicago this past week.. Gonna have time to put face to names at the hot dog place? Or are you already back east? mao in Elgin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
Some notes from my head gasket job a couple years back: Make absolutely sure that oil supply pipe is free of the block when you attempt to remove the head, mine leaked after straightening it back out, never did get fixed (car was wrecked soon after). You need all new head bolts, if you re-use them they always fail to keep the gasket sealed. Gas engines are fine, the diesel is not. Absolutely check the valve guides, they are a known weak point. Easy to fix. Make absolutely POSITIVE that the machine shop installs them to factory specs (very little clearance) -- it's common around here to want them very sloppy for some reason. I got a rebuilt head with at least 0.010 side clearance, had to have the job redone before we could use the head (and new valve seats to boot). For just a gasket change, leave the injectors in, don't clean the pistons, and don't clean the head except in the seal area. Knocks like crazy for a couple days if you shine it all up. If you need to check for cracks, clean it, otherwise leave the carbon on. You can leave the turbo and exhaust manifold in place, much easier. However, you should also check the turbo for condition -- if there is ANY front to back play or roughness in rotation, the bearings are shot. It' not impossible for the front seal to be OK and the rear to leak, the damage is usually done by coked oil on the main shaft and it can eat out the rear seal first. Good luck -- your car will run MUCH better after you put the new gasket in. I need one as well, but it will have to wait until I get the suspension fixed, I'm out of free cash. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem
Maybe I need to be driving to SC for fuel. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem We're in Myrtle, gas $2.99. I paid $3.61 at an NC gas station along the way, advertised no ethanol (other local prices $3.3x). I think that was the first tank of only-gas the van has ever had. Best, Tim On Nov 21, 2012 5:27 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: In Asheville NC now. Paid 3.99 for diesel here, was 3.75 in Charleston. Today we did chimney rock, lake lure. Star gazing tonight with night vision goggles. Going to try to find a cave with bats for daughter tomorrow. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I am in NC. Crossed the border and gas prices went up $0.26/gal. And all kinds of signs warning of impending doom for doing stuff that is natural and normal. And here in Chapel Hill every other car is plastered with ObamaBiden stickers. Piouses have more stickers for Equality and Diversity and Coexist and rainbows and everything else. Yesterday I creeped in a 20mi traffic jam on I-40, normal afternoon. I presume they would pull me over for any infraction just to get more money to support the socialist paradise. BTW on your license plate deal you need to clean all the contacts with some fine sandpaper, see if that helps. That aluminum or whatever they use gets all goobered up with AlO and won't conduct electrons. --R (who has found solace in a 10% ABV Imperial Amber Ale) On 11/20/2012 5:28 PM, WILTON wrote: Not required in NC. Some cars have 'em, of course, but my 22-year-old and 26 year-old MB's don't. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 license light problem On 20/11/2012 12:12 PM, Dieselhead wrote: SWMBO got pulled over for no license plate lights on the 87 300D. Bulbs are good. 0 volts between the contacts. Fuses good. ~12 volts from the hot license plate light terminal to the body inside the trunk (but not the lid.) So it appears there is a fault in the circuit to ground. Anyone BTDT? It looks like I can strip the wiring up by the left speaker and ground it to the body there without disrupting a lot. Is there a better place under the mats to check for ground? The car is not rusty. TX car. ___ Do you folks south of the border have day time running lights yet? The gendarmes have been pulling folks over here if the day time running lights are out. A $300 ticket. Not really something that one would think to check on regularly. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
When you get some more of that free cash, could you send me some of it? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket Some notes from my head gasket job a couple years back: Make absolutely sure that oil supply pipe is free of the block when you attempt to remove the head, mine leaked after straightening it back out, never did get fixed (car was wrecked soon after). You need all new head bolts, if you re-use them they always fail to keep the gasket sealed. Gas engines are fine, the diesel is not. Absolutely check the valve guides, they are a known weak point. Easy to fix. Make absolutely POSITIVE that the machine shop installs them to factory specs (very little clearance) -- it's common around here to want them very sloppy for some reason. I got a rebuilt head with at least 0.010 side clearance, had to have the job redone before we could use the head (and new valve seats to boot). For just a gasket change, leave the injectors in, don't clean the pistons, and don't clean the head except in the seal area. Knocks like crazy for a couple days if you shine it all up. If you need to check for cracks, clean it, otherwise leave the carbon on. You can leave the turbo and exhaust manifold in place, much easier. However, you should also check the turbo for condition -- if there is ANY front to back play or roughness in rotation, the bearings are shot. It' not impossible for the front seal to be OK and the rear to leak, the damage is usually done by coked oil on the main shaft and it can eat out the rear seal first. Good luck -- your car will run MUCH better after you put the new gasket in. I need one as well, but it will have to wait until I get the suspension fixed, I'm out of free cash. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
Some notes from my head gasket job a couple years back: Make absolutely sure that oil supply pipe is free of the block when you attempt to remove the head, mine leaked after straightening it back out, never did get fixed (car was wrecked soon after). You need all new head bolts, if you re-use them they always fail to keep the gasket sealed. Gas engines are fine, the diesel is not. Absolutely check the valve guides, they are a known weak point. Easy to fix. Make absolutely POSITIVE that the machine shop installs them to factory specs (very little clearance) -- it's common around here to want them very sloppy for some reason. I got a rebuilt head with at least 0.010 side clearance, had to have the job redone before we could use the head (and new valve seats to boot). For just a gasket change, leave the injectors in, don't clean the pistons, and don't clean the head except in the seal area. Knocks like crazy for a couple days if you shine it all up. If you need to check for cracks, clean it, otherwise leave the carbon on. You can leave the turbo and exhaust manifold in place, much easier. However, you should also check the turbo for condition -- if there is ANY front to back play or roughness in rotation, the bearings are shot. It' not impossible for the front seal to be OK and the rear to leak, the damage is usually done by coked oil on the main shaft and it can eat out the rear seal first. Good luck -- your car will run MUCH better after you put the new gasket in. I need one as well, but it will have to wait until I get the suspension fixed, I'm out of free cash. Peter Thanks. About carbon and cracks: My experience is that the cracks show up in the carbon- IF you can keep it dry. So, I like to inspect the head with all the carbon in place. Keeping it dry is the hard part. Knowing where to look for cracks is also a good thing to know. Aside from the prechamber to the valves, as in the iron heads, I am not sure where else cracks on the aluminum heads. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT The greatest hack of all time
So Emory is an overrated school too? R On 11/21/2012 5:36 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: In Georgia they call Harvard the Emory of the North. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Caltech, the MIT of the west. --R On 11/20/2012 10:17 AM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 08:37:51 -0500 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Well, maybe turning the great dome into a large breast might be in the running, or the police car on top, but this is right up there https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=MLg2XpY0L3w How about the changing of the instructions for a football team's card section when they were playing in the Rose Bowl to say CALTECH on national television instead of the team's name? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Chuffed!
getting caught up on the british discovery channel wheeler dealers They have done a couple US cars. Their take on new world electronics is the same as ours for Lucas. Just bad mouthing quality left and right as they tackle issues. Corvette seems to be the worst of the US cars they have done yet. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chuffed!
Yeah. Was wondering about that too when watching that episode. I don't recall US auto electronics as being particularly troublesome. Lucas on the other hand.. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:44 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: getting caught up on the british discovery channel wheeler dealers They have done a couple US cars. Their take on new world electronics is the same as ours for Lucas. Just bad mouthing quality left and right as they tackle issues. Corvette seems to be the worst of the US cars they have done yet. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM 603 head gasket
A bad head gasket makes oil smoke? Oil from the oil passages gets into the combustion chambers? Rick Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2012, at 9:52 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Not doing rings for a head gasket. On Nov 21, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like I get to change my first OM 603 head gasket. SDL has oil smoke, and oil running out the exhaust. Anything I am missing on these three lists? Piston rings? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
