Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
Radio shack sells a similar spray, I've used that also.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:01:19 -0500 Max Dillon
meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:

 The real-deal stuff that Marshall used to promote.  Www.Caig.com
 
 It comes in a variety of formulas, I think I have the D5.

I see. Getting it here before the weekend would be the problem.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Italian car

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
Ha! Yes, but far better looking and far more pleasurable when actually 
running...

This would be a weekend cruiser, not a daily driver.
-- 
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Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Anybody know anything about old Fiats?

Almost as bad as a renault

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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Rolf
I highly recommend watching the rock auto clearance sales. I've gotten some 
quality stuff for cheap.


Sent from my ASUS Pad

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

I see a lot of people on other forums touting Autohaus, but based on 
the prices they are quoting, much of it is the Chinese URO brand 
crap.

When the prices are half of what other suppliers are quoting, you 
have to ask yourself what could be so different that accounts for 
something costing so much less?

Dan

GIGO

(one of) the great things about Q is that he could supply chinee crap 
if you want it, OEM stuff, if you wanted, or OE if that's what you 
want,  and some times quality third party parts, if that's what fills 
the need, all at competitive prices, and with a smile and a gawga 
drawl.  And an occasional BBQ.

GIGO still holds.  If you want chinee crap, why bother with AZ?  just 
buy it on fleabay or crockauto.  Or if you want to be abused by an 
angry fatman, go fer it.

GIGO.

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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Rolf
I will certainly miss this. The nearest non autozoo parts place is a worldac 
client, so I will still feel like I am getting parts from Rusty, so not all is 
entirely lost. Will Trent still have access to the Florida warehouse? Does my 
account have a special notation ball buster?

-Rolf

Sent from my ASUS Pad

OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

And that was one of the value adds that Rusty brought to the table -
steering us away from the crap. Also his deep knowledge of which parts
which MB uses and the ability to find the part you need with just a verbal
description over the phone. He will be missed.

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Let me clarify my post about Autohauz, you do need to watch what you are
 ordering there and try to steer clear of the cheap china parts, even
 ordering OEM parts from OEM brands when it arrives it turns out to be made
 in China.



-- 
OK Don, who doesn't have a Mercedes at the present time, so doesn't need
parts!
2012 Passat TDI DSG
1957 C182A
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Star Diagnostic rental?

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
I doubt it covers my 140, but if it did I would be on board.

Dan

On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:

 How many people would be interested in renting the SDS tool.  I'm considering 
 purchasing one.  I would arrange some type of Redbox/Netflix type shipping 
 system.
 
 
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 '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi)
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Pricey, but definitely the best electronics cleaner you can buy.

I have both D5 and their slider/volume control product in the chemical cabinet. 
Nothing better to resurrect noisy switches or slide/rotary potentiometers on 
electronic equipment.

Dan

On Mar 6, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 The real-deal stuff that Marshall used to promote.  Www.Caig.com
 
 It comes in a variety of formulas, I think I have the D5.
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
 
 On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 22:40:06 -0500 Max Dillon
 meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:
 
 I fixed the same problem on my E300, deoxit sprayed into the contacts
 at the base of the stalk aka multi-function switch did the trick.
 
 Wonderful! I was dreading having to take that apart and swap it with
 the
 one in our '94 E420 in the next three days.
 
 Now all I have to do is find some spray deoxit. What kind of stuff did
 you use?
 
 
 Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT use WD-40 in a place where you want electrical contacts 
cleaned!!!

WD-40 is an insulator and will wreak havoc in electrical connections.

When I worked on pinball machines and other coin operated devices, I found many 
that were deemed unrepairable due to a well-meaning owner hosing down banks 
of relays and stepper motors with WD-40.

WD-40 insulates and displaces moisture. That's fine if things got wet, but 
especially in low voltage/low current applications it will effectively insulate 
exposed contacts and leave a film that is difficult to remove.

Use a high quality contact cleaner, such as Caig DeOxIt, or in a pinch you can 
find good quality stuff at the big box home improvement stores or Radio Shack. 
Radio Shack's TV Tuner Cleaner is good stuff.

Dan

On Mar 6, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote:

 Try some WD40 to see if you can get it working again. Had the same issue with 
 a 124 I had, worked on my 201 rear window switches as well. You can always 
 follow up with CAIG D5 later on.
 
 
 On 3/6/2013 11:03 PM, Craig wrote:
 I see. Getting it here before the weekend would be the problem.
 
 
 Craig
 
 
 -- 
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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Jon Agne
YES!!!  Avoid MTC.  I learned my lesson after 3 MTC monovalve failures in 2 
months, and an MTC aux pump that leaked most of my coolant in downtown Chicago! 
 In the case of the aux pump, the screws that held the pump case to the motor 
kept loosening resulting in an engine compartment coated with 
anti-freeze..usually halfway between Maine and New York City.


On Mar 6, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

 Same with MTC... avoid it all.

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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
While I think it has already been said, the advantages Rusty provided weren't 
price, but the understanding of what was acceptable as a quality part and what 
wasn't. I don't have an issue paying more for a quality part - I have been 
amazed as I have re-entered the MB world with the 140 and seen the flood of 
substandard, rather, crappy parts, that are coming out of China, such as those 
under the URO brand.

Do consider that there are some online parts suppliers that give you a choice, 
such as Rock Auto, but their support is marginal at best, and they often 
attempt to pad their margins with outlandish shipping charges.

Case in point: I have a discount voucher from Rock Auto for something I bought 
for one of the Focuses. I thought I might see what a set of front brake rotors 
would cost for the 140. I found the same brand that I would buy from Rusty, 
which was close to the same price as Rusty's web site. From Rusty there was no 
shipping cost. Rock Auto wanted over $40 for shipping!!!

I will give Rusty's replacement the benefit of the doubt and see how he does, 
as I am sure others will. I would also expect that fellow list members will 
share their experiences here so we can properly vet him and also help him 
assimilate into our world.

We can take advantage of his newbie-ness to help him understand what our 
expectations are and how he can best meet our needs.

Dan

On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote:

 YES!!!  Avoid MTC.  I learned my lesson after 3 MTC monovalve failures in 2 
 months, and an MTC aux pump that leaked most of my coolant in downtown 
 Chicago!  In the case of the aux pump, the screws that held the pump case to 
 the motor kept loosening resulting in an engine compartment coated with 
 anti-freeze..usually halfway between Maine and New York City.
 
 
 On Mar 6, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
 
 Same with MTC... avoid it all.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Star Diagnostic rental?

2013-03-07 Thread Gerry Archer
Daughter/SIL have.  It may be an 07 or 08, not sure. Would that matter to 
the SDS?  The dealer is ripping them off on repairs and service.

Gerry

From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net

You got a gl? I did not think they came out till 07


On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com 
wrote:

How much rent and will it work on a 2006 GL320cdi?
Gerry

From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net
How many people would be interested in renting the SDS tool.  I'm 
considering purchasing one.  I would arrange some type of Redbox/Netflix 
type shipping system.

--
Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi)
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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Clarification: the advantages Rusty provided along with good prices.

Dan

On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 While I think it has already been said, the advantages Rusty provided weren't 
 price, but the understanding of what was acceptable as a quality part and 
 what wasn't. I don't have an issue paying more for a quality part - I have 
 been amazed as I have re-entered the MB world with the 140 and seen the flood 
 of substandard, rather, crappy parts, that are coming out of China, such as 
 those under the URO brand.
 
 Do consider that there are some online parts suppliers that give you a 
 choice, such as Rock Auto, but their support is marginal at best, and they 
 often attempt to pad their margins with outlandish shipping charges.
 
 Case in point: I have a discount voucher from Rock Auto for something I 
 bought for one of the Focuses. I thought I might see what a set of front 
 brake rotors would cost for the 140. I found the same brand that I would buy 
 from Rusty, which was close to the same price as Rusty's web site. From Rusty 
 there was no shipping cost. Rock Auto wanted over $40 for shipping!!!
 
 I will give Rusty's replacement the benefit of the doubt and see how he does, 
 as I am sure others will. I would also expect that fellow list members will 
 share their experiences here so we can properly vet him and also help him 
 assimilate into our world.
 
 We can take advantage of his newbie-ness to help him understand what our 
 expectations are and how he can best meet our needs.
 
 Dan
 
 On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote:
 
 YES!!!  Avoid MTC.  I learned my lesson after 3 MTC monovalve failures in 2 
 months, and an MTC aux pump that leaked most of my coolant in downtown 
 Chicago!  In the case of the aux pump, the screws that held the pump case to 
 the motor kept loosening resulting in an engine compartment coated with 
 anti-freeze..usually halfway between Maine and New York City.
 
 
 On Mar 6, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
 
 Same with MTC... avoid it all.
 
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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Gerry Archer
Trent needs to buy a neglected 240D and spend his weekends fixing it.  That 
will establish rapport with the rest of us on the list and introduce him to 
the nature of the beasts.

Gerry

From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
While I think it has already been said, the advantages Rusty provided 
weren't price, but the understanding of what was acceptable as a quality 
part and what wasn't. I don't have an issue paying more for a quality 
part - I have been amazed as I have re-entered the MB world with the 140 
and seen the flood of substandard, rather, crappy parts, that are coming 
out of China, such as those under the URO brand.


Do consider that there are some online parts suppliers that give you a 
choice, such as Rock Auto, but their support is marginal at best, and they 
often attempt to pad their margins with outlandish shipping charges.


Case in point: I have a discount voucher from Rock Auto for something I 
bought for one of the Focuses. I thought I might see what a set of front 
brake rotors would cost for the 140. I found the same brand that I would 
buy from Rusty, which was close to the same price as Rusty's web site. 
From Rusty there was no shipping cost. Rock Auto wanted over $40 for 
shipping!!!


I will give Rusty's replacement the benefit of the doubt and see how he 
does, as I am sure others will. I would also expect that fellow list 
members will share their experiences here so we can properly vet him and 
also help him assimilate into our world.


We can take advantage of his newbie-ness to help him understand what our 
expectations are and how he can best meet our needs.


Dan

On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote:

YES!!!  Avoid MTC.  I learned my lesson after 3 MTC monovalve failures in 
2 months, and an MTC aux pump that leaked most of my coolant in downtown 
Chicago!  In the case of the aux pump, the screws that held the pump case 
to the motor kept loosening resulting in an engine compartment coated 
with anti-freeze..usually halfway between Maine and New York City.



On Mar 6, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:


Same with MTC... avoid it all.


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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Actually General Parts sold Car Quest or rather most of the Car Quest stores to 
Advance early this year.

The nice thing about my local CQ is they've got a lot of what I need in stock, 
front wheel bearings, oil filter, fuel filter etc. And most other stuff they 
can have tomorrow morning at no extra charge. Suspension parts I've bought from 
them are usually marked Moog, made in the USA which I appreciate.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 02:42:43 +
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Curt, WorldPac owns Car Quest so Trent can drop ship all that as well.



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And often the parts listed are simply not available at any price.

I shall order some from Trent but will probably rely more on my local Car Quest.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread dseretakis
Lets not forget that he would match Autorude Arizona. So he had a price 
advantage as well:)

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 Clarification: the advantages Rusty provided along with good prices.
 
 Dan
 
 On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 While I think it has already been said, the advantages Rusty provided 
 weren't price, but the understanding of what was acceptable as a quality 
 part and what wasn't. I don't have an issue paying more for a quality part - 
 I have been amazed as I have re-entered the MB world with the 140 and seen 
 the flood of substandard, rather, crappy parts, that are coming out of 
 China, such as those under the URO brand.
 
 Do consider that there are some online parts suppliers that give you a 
 choice, such as Rock Auto, but their support is marginal at best, and they 
 often attempt to pad their margins with outlandish shipping charges.
 
 Case in point: I have a discount voucher from Rock Auto for something I 
 bought for one of the Focuses. I thought I might see what a set of front 
 brake rotors would cost for the 140. I found the same brand that I would buy 
 from Rusty, which was close to the same price as Rusty's web site. From 
 Rusty there was no shipping cost. Rock Auto wanted over $40 for shipping!!!
 
 I will give Rusty's replacement the benefit of the doubt and see how he 
 does, as I am sure others will. I would also expect that fellow list members 
 will share their experiences here so we can properly vet him and also help 
 him assimilate into our world.
 
 We can take advantage of his newbie-ness to help him understand what our 
 expectations are and how he can best meet our needs.
 
 Dan
 
 On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote:
 
 YES!!!  Avoid MTC.  I learned my lesson after 3 MTC monovalve failures in 2 
 months, and an MTC aux pump that leaked most of my coolant in downtown 
 Chicago!  In the case of the aux pump, the screws that held the pump case 
 to the motor kept loosening resulting in an engine compartment coated with 
 anti-freeze..usually halfway between Maine and New York City.
 
 
 On Mar 6, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
 
 Same with MTC... avoid it all.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams

2013-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond
Apparently you've missed out when Jim Cathey has been singing its praises. I 
have too.
Usually available at Radio Shack, expensive but its the very best there is. 
When my little supply runs low I'll order the better stuff from Amazon.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 21:03:22 -0700
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On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:01:19 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:

 The real-deal stuff that Marshall used to promote.  Www.Caig.com
 
 It comes in a variety of formulas, I think I have the D5.

I see. Getting it here before the weekend would be the problem.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams

2013-03-07 Thread Chris James

Dan,

I can only relate my success using it for the issue at hand. I was
trying to offer a simple semi-permanent solution to Craig before his
upcoming trip. I'm sure he has enough on his plate without having to
worry about changing switches or special ordering supplies.

By all means if he can get the switch operational again with a few well
placed shots of WD40  actuating it, it should be followed up with
something else (i.e. the D5 or replacing it entirely, didn't MB issue a
TSB?). I think most on here would have the sense not douse the switch
with ANYTHING (emphasizing, not yelling) while it's attached to the
steering column.


On 3/7/2013 7:10 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

DO NOT use WD-40



--
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Star Diagnostic rental?

2013-03-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I use mine for my 92 300sd all the time

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On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:58 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 I doubt it covers my 140, but if it did I would be on board.
 
 Dan
 
 On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
 
 How many people would be interested in renting the SDS tool.  I'm 
 considering purchasing one.  I would arrange some type of Redbox/Netflix 
 type shipping system.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Star Diagnostic rental?

2013-03-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You need the sds for anything mid 90's and up for sure

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On Mar 7, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Daughter/SIL have.  It may be an 07 or 08, not sure. Would that matter to the 
 SDS?  The dealer is ripping them off on repairs and service.
 Gerry
 
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 You got a gl? I did not think they came out till 07
 
 On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
 How much rent and will it work on a 2006 GL320cdi?
 Gerry
 
 From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net
 How many people would be interested in renting the SDS tool.  I'm 
 considering purchasing one.  I would arrange some type of Redbox/Netflix 
 type shipping system.
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Re: [MBZ] Coast to Coast on 2 gallons of gas

2013-03-07 Thread Jim Cathey
There are not many creatures on this planet stupider or dumber than 
most of the the journalists


But... They Care.  They've been told to.  And how.  B.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams

2013-03-07 Thread Jim Cathey

Am I looking at a fuse problem, a multi-function switch problem, or
something else?


A shot of Caig Deoxit, right in the gizzard.  No need to remove
it, but it helps to notice _where_ the contacts are so that they
indeed get wet.  I bought the first (tiny, relatively expensive)
Deoxit at Rat Shack, I've since ordered bigger cans etc. via
Amazon.  The D5 is the usual spray formula, 95% propellent and
evaporative flushing agent, leaves 5% on as cleaner/protectant.

The flakey dome light in the Frankenheap is now not flakey.
A Must Have, and DO NOT use WD40 for this purpose!  I imagine
that spray cheese would work just about as well for that.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON
'Sounds good to me, but or some place better?  Where could be better  than 
GA?  ;)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning


My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate sponsor, 
and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car parts for us 
to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post on their 
website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy.  We then 
become the corporate poster children for their parts.  Some of us will 
become media celebs...


As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or 
someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they 
tell us what's new and we tell em what works.


Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with or 
without scantily clad girls.  from pristine cars to working Rusty but 
Trusty cars.   The message is buy our parts and save money by not having 
outrageous car payments.  be a 'merkin rugged individual







(angry fatmen not allowed.  Offer void outside the continental USA. (the 
usual disclaimers))




So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted at 
a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and drinking?

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20



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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON

Yep.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning



And that was one of the value adds that Rusty brought to the table -

steering us away from the crap. Also his deep knowledge of which parts
which MB uses and the ability to find the part you need with just a verbal
description over the phone. He will be missed.



Hear! Here!

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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get
back to me on that.  I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more
intimidating.

Mike
On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Sounds good to me, but or some place better?  Where could be better
  than GA?  ;)

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning


  My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate
 sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car parts
 for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post on
 their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy.  We
 then become the corporate poster children for their parts.  Some of us will
 become media celebs...

 As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or
 someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they tell
 us what's new and we tell em what works.

 Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with or
 without scantily clad girls.  from pristine cars to working Rusty but
 Trusty cars.   The message is buy our parts and save money by not having
 outrageous car payments.  be a 'merkin rugged individual






 (angry fatmen not allowed.  Offer void outside the continental USA. (the
 usual disclaimers))



  So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted
 at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and drinking?
 --
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 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20



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Re: [MBZ] Italian car

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON

I've heard  of boats being good weekend cruisers, too.  ;)

Wilton

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From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Italian car


Ha! Yes, but far better looking and far more pleasurable when actually 
running...


This would be a weekend cruiser, not a daily driver.
--
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


Anybody know anything about old Fiats?


Almost as bad as a renault

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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Michael Canfield
I'm in!

Mike
On Mar 6, 2013 5:37 PM, rdeaf...@aol.com wrote:

 How about a Wilton Q?

 Greenland Q..Wilton can fly us over  after arriving with our Benz's
 { He can tell us MORE stories on the way !!]And  gather blueberries while
 there.

 Bob
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[MBZ] testing posting

2013-03-07 Thread Rich Thomas

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Italian car

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
Guy in my neighborhood uses a Ferrari 308 (a la Magnum PI) as his daily driver, 
saw him this morning.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

I've heard  of boats being good weekend cruisers, too.  ;)

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Italian car


 Ha! Yes, but far better looking and far more pleasurable when
actually 
 running...

 This would be a weekend cruiser, not a daily driver.
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Anybody know anything about old Fiats?

Almost as bad as a renault

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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Rich Thomas

Did you have your gay pride and Obama stickers on there too?

--R

On 3/7/13 10:28 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get
back to me on that.  I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more
intimidating.





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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Benz Hogs
That doesn't sound like great customer service to me.  If I order a 
specific brand, I expect that to arrive in my package.  That's a failure 
of customer service called bait'n'switch.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi)

On 3/6/2013 7:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Let me clarify my post about Autohauz, you do need to watch what you are
ordering there and try to steer clear of the cheap china parts, even
ordering OEM parts from OEM brands when it arrives it turns out to be
made in China.

On 3/6/2013 6:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

A search on the internet for Trent Fiorini brings up a guy in IL who
works
for a flooring business, along with other members of his family.  Is this
our man?  I wouldn't think so, as a well run local floor business
could do
much better than a single guy trying to sell car parts on the internet.
  With big guys like autohausaz out there cornering the market with cheap
chinese parts, it seems like a very bad time to get into the parts
business
as a new guy.

This is just my opinion, of course.

Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON
Maybe I've been lucky to have never had NY tags.  ;)  (I'm kidding, I'm 
kidding!)

Point taken.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning



Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get
back to me on that.  I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more
intimidating.

Mike
On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


'Sounds good to me, but or some place better?  Where could be better
 than GA?  ;)

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning


 My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate
sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car 
parts
for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post 
on

their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy.  We
then become the corporate poster children for their parts.  Some of us 
will

become media celebs...

As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or
someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they 
tell

us what's new and we tell em what works.

Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with 
or

without scantily clad girls.  from pristine cars to working Rusty but
Trusty cars.   The message is buy our parts and save money by not 
having

outrageous car payments.  be a 'merkin rugged individual






(angry fatmen not allowed.  Offer void outside the continental USA. (the
usual disclaimers))



 So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted
at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and 
drinking?

--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20




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Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Understood.

My concern comes from personal experience, and the confusion that has occurred 
over the years from people spraying WD-40 on ignition parts like distributor 
caps on a wet engine.

While this use is totally appropriate for displacing moisture, it gets 
misunderstood as making WD-40 acceptable for use as an electrical cleaner, 
which it is not.

Having directly experienced the havoc that WD-40 can wreak on electrical 
components I am probably overly sensitive to the inappropriate use and 
resulting problems that occur when done so.

Dan

On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote:

 Dan,
 
 I can only relate my success using it for the issue at hand. I was
 trying to offer a simple semi-permanent solution to Craig before his
 upcoming trip. I'm sure he has enough on his plate without having to
 worry about changing switches or special ordering supplies.
 
 By all means if he can get the switch operational again with a few well
 placed shots of WD40  actuating it, it should be followed up with
 something else (i.e. the D5 or replacing it entirely, didn't MB issue a
 TSB?). I think most on here would have the sense not douse the switch
 with ANYTHING (emphasizing, not yelling) while it's attached to the
 steering column.
 
 
 On 3/7/2013 7:10 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 DO NOT use WD-40
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes

2013-03-07 Thread Benz Hogs
Probably notI've seen more than one person with outta state tags 
that have lived here longer than my 4 years.  I'd rather not chance it 
though...


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi)

On 3/6/2013 7:40 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:


why the heck didnt you register your vehicles in AR?



Because after six months or so of seeing his vehicles every day around Forest 
Park, the local constable would've been up his rear farther than a 
proctological exam.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Dieselhead
'Sounds good to me, but or some place better?  Where could be 
better  than GA?  ;)


Wilton


Northern states in summer.  Canada in summer.

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Re: [MBZ] testing posting

2013-03-07 Thread Dieselhead

Failed failing


--R

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Re: [MBZ] testing posting

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON

Yep.  'Lectrons are a-runnin' and a-zippin' and a-zappin'.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:37 AM
Subject: [MBZ] testing posting



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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Michael Canfield
No.  Was about 20 years ago.  Maybe the jacked up suspension and bigger
tires, long haired driver and loud mouthed ex wife had something to do with
it though.  There weren't many Subarus in GA, especially lifted 4wd ones.

Mike
On Mar 7, 2013 10:39 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
wrote:

 Did you have your gay pride and Obama stickers on there too?

 --R

 On 3/7/13 10:28 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

 Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get
 back to me on that.  I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more
 intimidating.




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Re: [MBZ] testing posting

2013-03-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Actually this indicates something else is failing -- I have sent another 
post 3 times and it has failed.


--R

On 3/7/13 10:44 AM, Dieselhead wrote:

Failed failing


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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Wilton,
  You are spot on!  NY tags suck.  The insurance is overpriced,
registration fees are terrible and inspections for newer cars are getting
worse.  Not to mention every time you go to a Southern state other than
Florida folks look at you like some sort of city folk that is about to rob
something.

Mike
On Mar 7, 2013 10:42 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Maybe I've been lucky to have never had NY tags.  ;)  (I'm kidding, I'm
 kidding!)
 Point taken.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning


  Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get
 back to me on that.  I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more
 intimidating.

 Mike
 On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  'Sounds good to me, but or some place better?  Where could be better
  than GA?  ;)

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning


  My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate

 sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car
 parts
 for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post
 on
 their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy.  We
 then become the corporate poster children for their parts.  Some of us
 will
 become media celebs...

 As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or
 someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they
 tell
 us what's new and we tell em what works.

 Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with
 or
 without scantily clad girls.  from pristine cars to working Rusty but
 Trusty cars.   The message is buy our parts and save money by not
 having
 outrageous car payments.  be a 'merkin rugged individual






 (angry fatmen not allowed.  Offer void outside the continental USA. (the
 usual disclaimers))



  So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted

 at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and
 drinking?
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20



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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON
Yep.  I've lived in both.  'Much nicer/better summers up nawth.  BTW, 
fantastically beautiful summers in MI UP, Canada and even Greenland.


Wilton

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Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning


'Sounds good to me, but or some place better?  Where could be better 
than GA?  ;)


Wilton


Northern states in summer.  Canada in summer.

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Re: [MBZ] Italian car

2013-03-07 Thread Michael Canfield
A friend here tried that with his Testa Rossa.  Said it was too dangerous
as everyone kept staring at it and swerving in the direction they were
looking.

Mike
On Mar 7, 2013 10:38 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Guy in my neighborhood uses a Ferrari 308 (a la Magnum PI) as his daily
 driver, saw him this morning.

 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I've heard  of boats being good weekend cruisers, too.  ;)
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:56 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Italian car
 
 
  Ha! Yes, but far better looking and far more pleasurable when
 actually
  running...
 
  This would be a weekend cruiser, not a daily driver.
  --
  Max Dillon
  Charleston SC
  '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
  Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anybody know anything about old Fiats?
 
 Almost as bad as a renault
 
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Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes

2013-03-07 Thread Dieselhead
If you park in your garage, it makes it more difficult for the lokel 
yokels to sniff you out and find you.  However, if the lokel yokel 
see you on the road often and remembers, you are most likely toast. 
rules and enforcement vary by state.   in the 70s, we had to take the 
furrin licensed pickup truck out of state once a month and prove it 
with gas receipts etc.  It was highly suspect because it was licensed 
in Kansas.


Denver colorado was really bad.  Don't know about now.  They'd cruise 
the streets and apt. parking lots looking for furrin plates.  They'd 
write a ticket and you had to prove you didn't live in the rathole 
state.



Probably notI've seen more than one person with outta state tags 
that have lived here longer than my 4 years.  I'd rather not chance 
it though...


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi)


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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Benz Hogs

Cheap $#!^ and $8/hr customer service.


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi)

On 3/6/2013 7:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

I see a lot of people on other forums touting Autohaus, but based on the prices 
they are quoting, much of it is the Chinese URO brand crap.

When the prices are half of what other suppliers are quoting, you have to ask 
yourself what could be so different that accounts for something costing so much 
less?

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 6, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:


Let me clarify my post about Autohauz, you do need to watch what you are 
ordering there and try to steer clear of the cheap china parts, even ordering 
OEM parts from OEM brands when it arrives it turns out to be made in China.

On 3/6/2013 6:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

A search on the internet for Trent Fiorini brings up a guy in IL who works
for a flooring business, along with other members of his family.  Is this
our man?  I wouldn't think so, as a well run local floor business could do
much better than a single guy trying to sell car parts on the internet.
  With big guys like autohausaz out there cornering the market with cheap
chinese parts, it seems like a very bad time to get into the parts business
as a new guy.

This is just my opinion, of course.

Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON
Have you tried Raleigh/Durham/RTP area of NC?  NY plates oughta feel right 
at home there.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning



Wilton,
 You are spot on!  NY tags suck.  The insurance is overpriced,
registration fees are terrible and inspections for newer cars are getting
worse.  Not to mention every time you go to a Southern state other than
Florida folks look at you like some sort of city folk that is about to rob
something.

Mike
On Mar 7, 2013 10:42 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Maybe I've been lucky to have never had NY tags.  ;)  (I'm kidding, 
I'm

kidding!)
Point taken.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Michael Canfield 
slozuk...@gmail.com


To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning


 Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then 
get

back to me on that.  I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more
intimidating.

Mike
On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Sounds good to me, but or some place better?  Where could be better

 than GA?  ;)

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning


 My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate


sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car
parts
for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can 
post

on
their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy. 
We

then become the corporate poster children for their parts.  Some of us
will
become media celebs...

As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or
someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they
tell
us what's new and we tell em what works.

Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with
or
without scantily clad girls.  from pristine cars to working Rusty but
Trusty cars.   The message is buy our parts and save money by not
having
outrageous car payments.  be a 'merkin rugged individual






(angry fatmen not allowed.  Offer void outside the continental USA. 
(the

usual disclaimers))



 So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it 
hosted



at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and
drinking?
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20




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Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes

2013-03-07 Thread Benz Hogs
Every village here has stickers that you pay $30-50/year for.  After the 
deadline, they'll drive every alley and check all the vehicles that are 
visible, even the ones parked on private property. They ticket everyone 
that hasn't paid.  Not worth chancing the outta state registration.



Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi)

On 3/7/2013 9:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote:

If you park in your garage, it makes it more difficult for the lokel
yokels to sniff you out and find you.  However, if the lokel yokel see
you on the road often and remembers, you are most likely toast. rules
and enforcement vary by state.   in the 70s, we had to take the furrin
licensed pickup truck out of state once a month and prove it with gas
receipts etc.  It was highly suspect because it was licensed in Kansas.

Denver colorado was really bad.  Don't know about now.  They'd cruise
the streets and apt. parking lots looking for furrin plates.  They'd
write a ticket and you had to prove you didn't live in the rathole state.



Probably notI've seen more than one person with outta state tags
that have lived here longer than my 4 years.  I'd rather not chance it
though...

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi)




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Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes

2013-03-07 Thread Mitch Haley

Dieselhead wrote:
If you park in your garage, it makes it more difficult for the lokel 
yokels to sniff you out and find you.  However, if the lokel yokel see 
you on the road often and remembers, you are most likely toast. rules 
and enforcement vary by state.   in the 70s, we had to take the furrin 
licensed pickup truck out of state once a month and prove it with gas 
receipts etc.  It was highly suspect because it was licensed in Kansas.


I guess RI and MO don't care as much as IL does.
My nephew in law moved to RI 5-6 years ago, then to MO about a year later.
Two years ago he moved back to CA, with his SUV still wearing the CA tags that 
expired when he was in RI. Since he had been gone so long, CA DMV had forgotten 
that he owed several years of back license fees when he re-registered it.


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Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON
While I was in USAF OCS for 6 months in '60, SWMBO had our '56 Chevy 
(Nebraska plates) at her parents' home in rural Nash Co., NC.  About 3 or 4 
months into it, NC HP officer eased into the yard one day and asked FIL, 
Whose car is that with NE plates?  FIL answered, Daughter and 
son-in-law's car, SIL in TX attending OCS; they were in NE 'til Mar, etc. 
HP officer responded, Thank, Sir, have a nice day.


Few years later, in GA, I had '61 and '65 Ponies registered in NC @ $10 and 
'64 Karman Ghia registered in GA @ '$5.  (Military members can register 
vehicles in home of record (home state) or home of current residence. 
NC HP officer chose to overlook fact that we were were not in NE any more 
and were between long-term assignments.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes


If you park in your garage, it makes it more difficult for the lokel 
yokels to sniff you out and find you.  However, if the lokel yokel see you 
on the road often and remembers, you are most likely toast. rules and 
enforcement vary by state.   in the 70s, we had to take the furrin 
licensed pickup truck out of state once a month and prove it with gas 
receipts etc.  It was highly suspect because it was licensed in Kansas.


Denver colorado was really bad.  Don't know about now.  They'd cruise the 
streets and apt. parking lots looking for furrin plates.  They'd write a 
ticket and you had to prove you didn't live in the rathole state.



Probably notI've seen more than one person with outta state tags that 
have lived here longer than my 4 years.  I'd rather not chance it 
though...


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi)


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Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON
'Reminds me:  I had NC temp. driver's license (no photo) for many years 
while in USAF.  When it would expire every 4 years, NC would send me another 
temp, of course with notation that I was required to get a permanent 
license with 10 or 30 days (can't remember which) of returning to the state. 
Air Force brought me to Seymour Johnson AFB, NC, in Mar, '79.  'Bout 3 years 
later, I received notice that driver's license was about to expire; that's 
when I remembered that I'd been illegal (in state with temp license) for 
3 years or so.  'Got it renewed; nobody said a word.


Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes



Dieselhead wrote:
If you park in your garage, it makes it more difficult for the lokel 
yokels to sniff you out and find you.  However, if the lokel yokel see 
you on the road often and remembers, you are most likely toast. rules and 
enforcement vary by state.   in the 70s, we had to take the furrin 
licensed pickup truck out of state once a month and prove it with gas 
receipts etc.  It was highly suspect because it was licensed in Kansas.


I guess RI and MO don't care as much as IL does.
My nephew in law moved to RI 5-6 years ago, then to MO about a year later.
Two years ago he moved back to CA, with his SUV still wearing the CA tags 
that expired when he was in RI. Since he had been gone so long, CA DMV had 
forgotten that he owed several years of back license fees when he 
re-registered it.


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Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?

2013-03-07 Thread Frederick Moir
Fairfield Harbor, near New Bern NC
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?
 
Where in NC?

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?


Dimitri.
Not this Sunday but next, I'll still be in NC on Sunday driving back 
Sun/Mon.
Speedi-Bleed is a pressure bleeding kit with reservoir and a cap for German 
m/cyl fill ports.
Note:- check the rubber nubbies over the level sensors, I blew fluid all 
over because they had perished and failed.
TTFN.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.



 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?

Fred, is the Speedi-Bleed a pressure or vacuum bleeder? I have a motive 
pressure bleeder I received as a gift some years ago. I haven't really used 
it yet.
Will you be around this Sunday to meet up?

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Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON

Golfing, buying, boating or all of the above?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?


Fairfield Harbor, near New Bern NC

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?

Where in NC?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?


Dimitri.
Not this Sunday but next, I'll still be in NC on Sunday driving back
Sun/Mon.
Speedi-Bleed is a pressure bleeding kit with reservoir and a cap for German
m/cyl fill ports.
Note:- check the rubber nubbies over the level sensors, I blew fluid all
over because they had perished and failed.
TTFN.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?

Fred, is the Speedi-Bleed a pressure or vacuum bleeder? I have a motive
pressure bleeder I received as a gift some years ago. I haven't really 
used

it yet.
Will you be around this Sunday to meet up?

Sent from my iPhone



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[MBZ] Brake Rotor Question

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Since we are talking about various parts brands, I would be curious to know 
what the differences are, if any, between the suppliers for brake rotors and 
related parts. The names I know and see are Balo, ATE, and Brembo.

I believe that both ATE and Balo are OEM suppliers, correct? Are they 
effectively the same for the average user? Any reason one would be a better 
choice over the other?

Zimmerman also comes up, but not being familiar with them and seeing that they 
are at the lower end of the price range, I dismissed them as a possibility.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON

Do you go I-95, I-795, US 70, etc., via Goldsboro?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?


Fairfield Harbor, near New Bern NC

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?

Where in NC?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?


Dimitri.
Not this Sunday but next, I'll still be in NC on Sunday driving back
Sun/Mon.
Speedi-Bleed is a pressure bleeding kit with reservoir and a cap for German
m/cyl fill ports.
Note:- check the rubber nubbies over the level sensors, I blew fluid all
over because they had perished and failed.
TTFN.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.




From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?

Fred, is the Speedi-Bleed a pressure or vacuum bleeder? I have a motive
pressure bleeder I received as a gift some years ago. I haven't really 
used

it yet.
Will you be around this Sunday to meet up?

Sent from my iPhone



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Re: [MBZ] Brake Rotor Question

2013-03-07 Thread Michael Canfield
I know that when I drove a Volvo 240 on a paper route the only brakes that
held up well were Brembo.  They also make really nice racing brake parts.

Mike
On Mar 7, 2013 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 Since we are talking about various parts brands, I would be curious to
 know what the differences are, if any, between the suppliers for brake
 rotors and related parts. The names I know and see are Balo, ATE, and
 Brembo.

 I believe that both ATE and Balo are OEM suppliers, correct? Are they
 effectively the same for the average user? Any reason one would be a better
 choice over the other?

 Zimmerman also comes up, but not being familiar with them and seeing that
 they are at the lower end of the price range, I dismissed them as a
 possibility.

 Dan

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[MBZ] Climate Control push-button unit dis-assembly?

2013-03-07 Thread ernest breakfield

hi all!

since the fan has become intermittent and the temp control a little 
bit wonky, i took the ACC push-button unit out of my W123 to see if i 
could re-solder the connections and anything else it might need.


i've got the unit out, but before i start trying to take it apart i 
wanted to inquire as to whether anyone here might know of a good 
write-up on how to open the unit up; i'd appreciate any experience that 
might be shared by those who've gone before me on this task.



cheers!
e

'85 300D (Calif version)
220K+ miles. (100K+ on B99 BioDiesel)
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Re: [MBZ] Climate Control push-button unit dis-assembly?

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
E,

I don't currently have a write-up for it on my web site, but I do have pictures 
and can guide you through the process if you want to drop me a note.

If you have good soldering skills it's pretty straightforward.

Dan

On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:51 PM, ernest breakfield 
erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote:

 hi all!
 
since the fan has become intermittent and the temp control a little bit 
 wonky, i took the ACC push-button unit out of my W123 to see if i could 
 re-solder the connections and anything else it might need.
 
i've got the unit out, but before i start trying to take it apart i wanted 
 to inquire as to whether anyone here might know of a good write-up on how to 
 open the unit up; i'd appreciate any experience that might be shared by those 
 who've gone before me on this task.
 
 
 cheers!
 e
 
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 220K+ miles. (100K+ on B99 BioDiesel)
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[MBZ] OL: Re: Climate Control push-button unit dis-assembly?

2013-03-07 Thread ernest breakfield

hi Dan!

thanks; anything you can share would be appreciated. (my soldering 
skills are abysmal but fortunately i have friends that work in the labs 
of my clients!)



cheers!
e

On 07/Mar/13 09:56, Dan Penoff wrote:

E,

I don't currently have a write-up for it on my web site, but I do have pictures 
and can guide you through the process if you want to drop me a note.

If you have good soldering skills it's pretty straightforward.

Dan

On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:51 PM, ernest breakfield 
erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote:


hi all!

since the fan has become intermittent and the temp control a little bit 
wonky, i took the ACC push-button unit out of my W123 to see if i could 
re-solder the connections and anything else it might need.

i've got the unit out, but before i start trying to take it apart i wanted 
to inquire as to whether anyone here might know of a good write-up on how to 
open the unit up; i'd appreciate any experience that might be shared by those 
who've gone before me on this task.


cheers!
e

'85 300D (Calif version)
220K+ miles. (100K+ on B99 BioDiesel)
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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Gerry Archer

Were ya sober?
Gerry

From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com

Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get
back to me on that.  I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more
intimidating.

Mike
On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


'Sounds good to me, but or some place better?  Where could be better
 than GA?  ;)

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning


 My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate
sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car 
parts
for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post 
on

their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy.  We
then become the corporate poster children for their parts.  Some of us 
will

become media celebs...

As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or
someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they 
tell

us what's new and we tell em what works.

Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with 
or

without scantily clad girls.  from pristine cars to working Rusty but
Trusty cars.   The message is buy our parts and save money by not 
having

outrageous car payments.  be a 'merkin rugged individual






(angry fatmen not allowed.  Offer void outside the continental USA. (the
usual disclaimers))



 So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted
at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and 
drinking?

--
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20




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Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams

2013-03-07 Thread Gerry Archer
Radio Shack initially sold it under the Deoxit label.  Then DeOxit 
disappeared and the Radio Shack brand appeared.  The current stuff may still 
be DeOxit.  It seems to work as well but I still use DeOxit on the Mercedes.
Someone suggested using DeOxit and flipping a switch fifty times.  I tried 
that on the right side mirror switch in the '83 300D and it fixed it.  Many 
thanks to whoever suggested it.

Gerry

From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
Apparently you've missed out when Jim Cathey has been singing its praises. 
I have too.
Usually available at Radio Shack, expensive but its the very best there 
is. When my little supply runs low I'll order the better stuff from 
Amazon.

-Curt

Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 21:03:22 -0700
From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams
Message-ID: 20130306210322.6ee490e172249fce772a5...@pisquared.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:01:19 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:


The real-deal stuff that Marshall used to promote.  Www.Caig.com

It comes in a variety of formulas, I think I have the D5.


I see. Getting it here before the weekend would be the problem.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Brake Rotor Question

2013-03-07 Thread Rusty Cullens
Mercedes actually manufactures their brake rotors. Balo is the closest to
OE there is. Zimmerman are good. ATE is total aftermarket.




On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 Since we are talking about various parts brands, I would be curious to
 know what the differences are, if any, between the suppliers for brake
 rotors and related parts. The names I know and see are Balo, ATE, and
 Brembo.

 I believe that both ATE and Balo are OEM suppliers, correct? Are they
 effectively the same for the average user? Any reason one would be a better
 choice over the other?

 Zimmerman also comes up, but not being familiar with them and seeing that
 they are at the lower end of the price range, I dismissed them as a
 possibility.

 Dan

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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Michael Canfield
Yes.  Had just pulled into town from Alabama so we could visit a friend on
the way back home.

Was one heck of a trip, maybe I will write it all down one day before I
forget.

What was I gonna write?

Mike
On Mar 7, 2013 1:24 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Were ya sober?
 Gerry

 From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com

 Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get
 back to me on that.  I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more
 intimidating.

 Mike
 On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  'Sounds good to me, but or some place better?  Where could be better
  than GA?  ;)

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning


  My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate

 sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car
 parts
 for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post
 on
 their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy.  We
 then become the corporate poster children for their parts.  Some of us
 will
 become media celebs...

 As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or
 someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they
 tell
 us what's new and we tell em what works.

 Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with
 or
 without scantily clad girls.  from pristine cars to working Rusty but
 Trusty cars.   The message is buy our parts and save money by not
 having
 outrageous car payments.  be a 'merkin rugged individual






 (angry fatmen not allowed.  Offer void outside the continental USA. (the
 usual disclaimers))



  So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted

 at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and
 drinking?
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20



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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No the specific brands which used to be German are now coming from china

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On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:

 That doesn't sound like great customer service to me.  If I order a specific 
 brand, I expect that to arrive in my package.  That's a failure of customer 
 service called bait'n'switch.
 
 Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
 '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi)
 
 On 3/6/2013 7:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Let me clarify my post about Autohauz, you do need to watch what you are
 ordering there and try to steer clear of the cheap china parts, even
 ordering OEM parts from OEM brands when it arrives it turns out to be
 made in China.
 
 On 3/6/2013 6:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
 A search on the internet for Trent Fiorini brings up a guy in IL who
 works
 for a flooring business, along with other members of his family.  Is this
 our man?  I wouldn't think so, as a well run local floor business
 could do
 much better than a single guy trying to sell car parts on the internet.
  With big guys like autohausaz out there cornering the market with cheap
 chinese parts, it seems like a very bad time to get into the parts
 business
 as a new guy.
 
 This is just my opinion, of course.
 
 Jaime
 
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Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes

2013-03-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You have not been up there 4 years have you?

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 Probably notI've seen more than one person with outta state tags that 
 have lived here longer than my 4 years.  I'd rather not chance it though...
 
 Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
 '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi)
 
 On 3/6/2013 7:40 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
 On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
 
 why the heck didnt you register your vehicles in AR?
 
 
 Because after six months or so of seeing his vehicles every day around 
 Forest Park, the local constable would've been up his rear farther than a 
 proctological exam.
 
 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes

2013-03-07 Thread Benz Hogs

3.5 right now, 4 in August.

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi)

On 3/7/2013 1:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

You have not been up there 4 years have you?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:


Probably notI've seen more than one person with outta state tags that have 
lived here longer than my 4 years.  I'd rather not chance it though...

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi)



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Re: [MBZ] Italian car

2013-03-07 Thread Howard Fulford

Max asked 'Anybody know anything about old Fiats?'

FIAT = Fix It Again, Tony ...


Howard
Bath
England
'97 200E 5-speed manual, 108256 miles

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[MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
Forwarded on behalf of Rich...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20


 Original Message 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013
To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Fwd: you're advises please

Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls?  I have tried 
sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason 
(spam filter?).  Would like to see if it gets through from you.

--R


 Original Message 
Subject:you're advises please
Date:   Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500
From:   Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com



So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the
question some time ago in other contexts.

The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable
transportation starting in the summer.  He had issues with the 300SD,
nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older
car.  When he started school he brought it here.  While the car is in
decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal
with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is
assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all
hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the
safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night).  This will mostly be
an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I
need to figure this out.

Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs):

1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2
yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over.

2)  New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 2 yr
when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide what
to do after 3 yr (or whatever term).  Up-front cost on a lease might be
a bit more than a buy?

3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something,
maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that
might arise.  Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but probably
still pretty good.  Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit
lower.  Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though.

My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability so he
can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car
issues.  I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working
like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to that
burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations.  I recall my wife 
in the same situation, and me out at night in the cold doing repairs on the POS 
Cherokee so she would be able to get where she was going at 5AM after getting 
home at 9PM.

I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. I see
these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments
pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC for
a 28yo driver).  A used one would probably be a bit less, but up
front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering...

Please provide you're advises!

--R




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[MBZ] No MBZ content here...

2013-03-07 Thread Mitch Haley
...but any of the Gullwings could have been here, especially the C111 sports car 
prototype.

http://tinybytes.me/misc/the-sexiest-sports-cars

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Re: [MBZ] Italian car

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
Yeah, I know, actually two family friends have owned theses cars in the past 
and complained about the reliability, and they both bought them new.

Glad to hear from someone across the pond!  
-- 
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Howard Fulford h.fulf...@lineone.net wrote:

Max asked 'Anybody know anything about old Fiats?'

FIAT = Fix It Again, Tony ...


Howard
Bath
England
'97 200E 5-speed manual, 108256 miles

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
Start a new gmail account? ;)
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Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Forwarded on behalf of Rich...


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Re: [MBZ] Italian car

2013-03-07 Thread Mitch Haley

BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone?
Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what?

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
As I think I have suggested previously, a used low mileage Focus would be an 
excellent choice for a commuter vehicle in the areas of cost, economy and 
reliability.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Forwarded on behalf of Rich...
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 
  Original Message 
 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013
 To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: Fwd: you're advises please
 
 Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls?  I have tried 
 sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason 
 (spam filter?).  Would like to see if it gets through from you.
 
 --R
 
 
  Original Message 
 Subject:you're advises please
 Date:Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500
 From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 
 
 So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the
 question some time ago in other contexts.
 
 The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable
 transportation starting in the summer.  He had issues with the 300SD,
 nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older
 car.  When he started school he brought it here.  While the car is in
 decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal
 with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is
 assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all
 hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the
 safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night).  This will mostly be
 an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I
 need to figure this out.
 
 Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs):
 
 1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2
 yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over.
 
 2)  New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 2 yr
 when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide what
 to do after 3 yr (or whatever term).  Up-front cost on a lease might be
 a bit more than a buy?
 
 3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something,
 maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that
 might arise.  Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but probably
 still pretty good.  Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit
 lower.  Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though.
 
 My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability so he
 can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car
 issues.  I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working
 like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to that
 burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations.  I recall my 
 wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the cold doing repairs on 
 the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get where she was going at 5AM after 
 getting home at 9PM.
 
 I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. I see
 these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments
 pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC for
 a 28yo driver).  A used one would probably be a bit less, but up
 front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering...
 
 Please provide you're advises!
 
 --R
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Italian car

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
1975 Fiat Spider (convertible).
-- 
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'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone?
Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what?

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Re: [MBZ] Italian car

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Wow, the only worse Italian car I can think of would be a Fiat 124 Sport coupe, 
although I am sure there are others

One of my buddies had one of these (Spider convertible) when we were in tech 
school. Despite having a complete campus full of automotive diagnostic and 
repair resources literally at our fingertips, this car was still a nightmare to 
keep running.

But it was fun to drive!

Dan

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On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 1975 Fiat Spider (convertible).
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone?
 Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please

2013-03-07 Thread Rich Thomas

See if this reply works.

Yes I recall that suggestion, and I have been looking on CL but Foci are 
few.  I could take a cruise around some lots at some point I suppose. 
Probably more likely to find them there, esp if off-leasers or trade-ins 
or something like that.


--R

On 3/7/13 4:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

As I think I have suggested previously, a used low mileage Focus would be an 
excellent choice for a commuter vehicle in the areas of cost, economy and 
reliability.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:


Forwarded on behalf of Rich...
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20


 Original Message 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013
To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Fwd: you're advises please

Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls?  I have tried
sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason
(spam filter?).  Would like to see if it gets through from you.

--R


 Original Message 
Subject:you're advises please
Date:Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500
From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com



So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the
question some time ago in other contexts.

The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable
transportation starting in the summer.  He had issues with the 300SD,
nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older
car.  When he started school he brought it here.  While the car is in
decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal
with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is
assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all
hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the
safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night).  This will mostly be
an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I
need to figure this out.

Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs):

1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2
yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over.

2)  New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 2 yr
when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide what
to do after 3 yr (or whatever term).  Up-front cost on a lease might be
a bit more than a buy?

3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something,
maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that
might arise.  Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but probably
still pretty good.  Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit
lower.  Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though.

My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability so he
can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car
issues.  I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working
like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to that
burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations.  I recall my wife 
in the same situation, and me out at night in the cold doing repairs on the POS 
Cherokee so she would be able to get where she was going at 5AM after getting 
home at 9PM.

I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. I see
these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments
pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC for
a 28yo driver).  A used one would probably be a bit less, but up
front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering...

Please provide you're advises!

--R




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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON

My first thought is a Focus, but I've not considered ne in detail.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:19 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please



Forwarded on behalf of Rich...
--
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Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20


 Original Message 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013
To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Fwd: you're advises please

Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls?  I have tried
sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason
(spam filter?).  Would like to see if it gets through from you.

--R


 Original Message 
Subject: you're advises please
Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com



So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the
question some time ago in other contexts.

The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable
transportation starting in the summer.  He had issues with the 300SD,
nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older
car.  When he started school he brought it here.  While the car is in
decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal
with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is
assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all
hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the
safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night).  This will mostly be
an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I
need to figure this out.

Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs):

1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2
yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over.

2)  New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 2 yr
when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide what
to do after 3 yr (or whatever term).  Up-front cost on a lease might be
a bit more than a buy?

3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something,
maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that
might arise.  Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but probably
still pretty good.  Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit
lower.  Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though.

My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability so he
can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car
issues.  I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working
like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to that
burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations.  I recall my 
wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the cold doing repairs 
on the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get where she was going at 5AM 
after getting home at 9PM.


I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. I see
these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments
pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC for
a 28yo driver).  A used one would probably be a bit less, but up
front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering...

Please provide you're advises!

--R




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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON
How 'bout a new Focus not loaded down with lotsa unnecessary, expensive 
crap?  Make sure it has AC, though ('guess that has become fairly basic by 
now, eh?).


Wilton

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From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please



See if this reply works.

Yes I recall that suggestion, and I have been looking on CL but Foci are 
few.  I could take a cruise around some lots at some point I suppose. 
Probably more likely to find them there, esp if off-leasers or trade-ins 
or something like that.


--R

On 3/7/13 4:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
As I think I have suggested previously, a used low mileage Focus would be 
an excellent choice for a commuter vehicle in the areas of cost, economy 
and reliability.


Dan

Sent from my iPad

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Forwarded on behalf of Rich...
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Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20


 Original Message 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013
To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Fwd: you're advises please

Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls?  I have tried
sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason
(spam filter?).  Would like to see if it gets through from you.

--R


 Original Message 
Subject:you're advises please
Date:Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500
From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com



So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the
question some time ago in other contexts.

The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable
transportation starting in the summer.  He had issues with the 300SD,
nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older
car.  When he started school he brought it here.  While the car is in
decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal
with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is
assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all
hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the
safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night).  This will mostly be
an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I
need to figure this out.

Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs):

1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2
yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over.

2)  New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 2 yr
when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide what
to do after 3 yr (or whatever term).  Up-front cost on a lease might be
a bit more than a buy?

3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something,
maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that
might arise.  Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but probably
still pretty good.  Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit
lower.  Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though.

My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability so he
can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car
issues.  I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working
like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to that
burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations.  I recall 
my wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the cold doing 
repairs on the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get where she was 
going at 5AM after getting home at 9PM.


I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. I see
these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments
pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC for
a 28yo driver).  A used one would probably be a bit less, but up
front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering...

Please provide you're advises!

--R




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[MBZ] 87 300TD

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON
Max, what's the latest with your 300TD?  You had a head prob; is that solved; 
is it running, etc.?
Is the E300's cooing sys (cabin) OK?

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please

2013-03-07 Thread Rich Thomas

Yes that would be #1 or #2.

--R

On 3/7/13 5:04 PM, WILTON wrote:
How 'bout a new Focus not loaded down with lotsa unnecessary, 
expensive crap?  Make sure it has AC, though ('guess that has become 
fairly basic by now, eh?).


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please



See if this reply works.

Yes I recall that suggestion, and I have been looking on CL but Foci 
are few.  I could take a cruise around some lots at some point I 
suppose. Probably more likely to find them there, esp if off-leasers 
or trade-ins or something like that.


--R

On 3/7/13 4:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
As I think I have suggested previously, a used low mileage Focus 
would be an excellent choice for a commuter vehicle in the areas of 
cost, economy and reliability.


Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:



Forwarded on behalf of Rich...
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20


 Original Message 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013
To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Fwd: you're advises please

Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls? I have 
tried

sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason
(spam filter?).  Would like to see if it gets through from you.

--R


 Original Message 
Subject:you're advises please
Date:Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500
From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com



So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the
question some time ago in other contexts.

The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable
transportation starting in the summer.  He had issues with the 300SD,
nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older
car.  When he started school he brought it here.  While the car is in
decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal
with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is
assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all
hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the
safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night).  This will mostly be
an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I
need to figure this out.

Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs):

1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2
yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over.

2)  New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 
2 yr
when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide 
what
to do after 3 yr (or whatever term).  Up-front cost on a lease 
might be

a bit more than a buy?

3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something,
maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that
might arise.  Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but 
probably

still pretty good.  Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit
lower.  Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though.

My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability 
so he

can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car
issues.  I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working
like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to 
that
burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations.  I 
recall my wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the 
cold doing repairs on the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get 
where she was going at 5AM after getting home at 9PM.


I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. 
I see

these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments
pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC 
for

a 28yo driver).  A used one would probably be a bit less, but up
front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering...

Please provide you're advises!

--R




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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
I would not advise a lease.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

Yes that would be #1 or #2.

--R

On 3/7/13 5:04 PM, WILTON wrote:
 How 'bout a new Focus not loaded down with lotsa unnecessary, 
 expensive crap?  Make sure it has AC, though ('guess that has
become 
 fairly basic by now, eh?).

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please


 See if this reply works.

 Yes I recall that suggestion, and I have been looking on CL but Foci

 are few.  I could take a cruise around some lots at some point I 
 suppose. Probably more likely to find them there, esp if off-leasers

 or trade-ins or something like that.

 --R

 On 3/7/13 4:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 As I think I have suggested previously, a used low mileage Focus 
 would be an excellent choice for a commuter vehicle in the areas of

 cost, economy and reliability.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net 
 wrote:

 Forwarded on behalf of Rich...
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20


  Original Message 
 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013
 To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 Subject: Fwd: you're advises please

 Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls? I have 
 tried
 sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some
reason
 (spam filter?).  Would like to see if it gets through from you.

 --R


  Original Message 
 Subject:you're advises please
 Date:Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500
 From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com



 So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed
the
 question some time ago in other contexts.

 The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable
 transportation starting in the summer.  He had issues with the
300SD,
 nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an
older
 car.  When he started school he brought it here.  While the car is
in
 decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to
deal
 with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he
is
 assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely
all
 hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not
the
 safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night).  This will
mostly be
 an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So
I
 need to figure this out.

 Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs):

 1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments,
in 2
 yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it
over.

 2)  New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then
in 
 2 yr
 when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide

 what
 to do after 3 yr (or whatever term).  Up-front cost on a lease 
 might be
 a bit more than a buy?

 3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or
something,
 maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues
that
 might arise.  Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but 
 probably
 still pretty good.  Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a
bit
 lower.  Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though.

 My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability

 so he
 can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car
 issues.  I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is
working
 like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to

 that
 burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations.  I 
 recall my wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the 
 cold doing repairs on the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get

 where she was going at 5AM after getting home at 9PM.

 I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers.

 I see
 these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and
payments
 pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in
DC 
 for
 a 28yo driver).  A used one would probably be a bit less, but up
 front/monthly cost might not be that much different,
considering...

 Please provide you're advises!

 --R




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[MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Anyone ever try this?

http://www.k6jrf.com/MB_vfc.html

I see that it's originally from Stu, meaning that it must be relatively safe.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON

I don't think so, either.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please



I would not advise a lease.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


Yes that would be #1 or #2.

--R

On 3/7/13 5:04 PM, WILTON wrote:
How 'bout a new Focus not loaded down with lotsa unnecessary, 
expensive crap?  Make sure it has AC, though ('guess that has
become 

fairly basic by now, eh?).

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please



See if this reply works.

Yes I recall that suggestion, and I have been looking on CL but Foci


are few.  I could take a cruise around some lots at some point I 
suppose. Probably more likely to find them there, esp if off-leasers



or trade-ins or something like that.

--R

On 3/7/13 4:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
As I think I have suggested previously, a used low mileage Focus 
would be an excellent choice for a commuter vehicle in the areas of



cost, economy and reliability.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net 
wrote:



Forwarded on behalf of Rich...
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20


 Original Message 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013
To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Fwd: you're advises please

Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls? I have 
tried

sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some

reason

(spam filter?).  Would like to see if it gets through from you.

--R


 Original Message 
Subject:you're advises please
Date:Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500
From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com



So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed

the

question some time ago in other contexts.

The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable
transportation starting in the summer.  He had issues with the

300SD,

nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an

older

car.  When he started school he brought it here.  While the car is

in

decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to

deal

with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he

is

assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely

all

hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not

the

safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night).  This will

mostly be

an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So

I

need to figure this out.

Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs):

1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments,

in 2

yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it

over.


2)  New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then
in 

2 yr
when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide



what
to do after 3 yr (or whatever term).  Up-front cost on a lease 
might be

a bit more than a buy?

3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or

something,

maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues

that
might arise.  Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but 
probably

still pretty good.  Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a

bit

lower.  Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though.

My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability



so he
can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car
issues.  I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is

working

like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to



that
burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations.  I 
recall my wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the 
cold doing repairs on the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get



where she was going at 5AM after getting home at 9PM.

I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers.



I see
these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and

payments

pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in
DC 

for
a 28yo driver).  A used one would probably be a bit less, but up
front/monthly cost might not be that much different,

considering...


Please provide you're advises!

--R




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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please

2013-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond
If you decide to go new you could save a little money with a Fiesta. I was well 
pleased with the one I had last week. 35mpg as I absolutely thrashed it in LA 
traffic. Would certainly do better driven moderately in a less hilly area. Big 
enough, comfortable enough, more than enough power.

On the way back to the airport I found myself doing 80mph without realizing it, 
the engine didn't seem buzzy or concerned with the speed at all.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 18:04:22 -0500
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
Message-ID: 51391cf6.4030...@constructivity.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Yes that would be #1 or #2.

--R

On 3/7/13 5:04 PM, WILTON wrote:
 How 'bout a new Focus not loaded down with lotsa unnecessary, 
 expensive crap?  Make sure it has AC, though ('guess that has become 
 fairly basic by now, eh?).

 Wilton

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[MBZ] repair climate control unit

2013-03-07 Thread Rick Hawkins Java

here's a link
http://w123maintenance.blogspot.com/2007/10/automatic-climate-control-unit-repair.html


thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
Looks easy enough.  Two methods are discussed, adding a bolt and shortening the 
pin.  You could undo the bolt, and if you had a spare pin you could restore the 
original, so neither modification needs to be permanent.

On my '95 E300, I refilled the clutch with oil, that worked for me.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

Anyone ever try this?

http://www.k6jrf.com/MB_vfc.html

I see that it's originally from Stu, meaning that it must be relatively
safe.

Dan


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Re: [MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
I may look into this next week, as I am off for the week for spring break.

I don't like the pin modification, as it is permanent and the fan clutch is a 
rather pricey part.

I figured I would check on the fluid as well.  Can you expound on this some 
more?  I seem to recall some discussion about fan clutches and checking/adding 
fluid, but don't recall the details.

Thanks,

Dan


On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

 Looks easy enough.  Two methods are discussed, adding a bolt and shortening 
 the pin.  You could undo the bolt, and if you had a spare pin you could 
 restore the original, so neither modification needs to be permanent.
 
 On my '95 E300, I refilled the clutch with oil, that worked for me.
 
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 Anyone ever try this?
 
 http://www.k6jrf.com/MB_vfc.html
 
 I see that it's originally from Stu, meaning that it must be relatively
 safe.
 
 Dan
 
 
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[MBZ] Spraying W124 multi-function switch

2013-03-07 Thread Craig
I went to Radio Shack today (yes, Los Alamos actually has one :-) ) and
got a bottle of their Precision Electronics Cleaner. They had bottles
of spray lubricant for $6.xx, bottles of spray cleaner/lubricant for
$9.xx, and bottles of cleaner for $13.xx. The bottles of cleaner were
larger than the bottles of lubricant and cleaner/lubricant.

Anyway, I went out to the car and looked where to spray it, but I could
not see any possible opening into which to insert the spray tube.

So, where do I spray it?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Very nice.  Well illustrated and has a good example, albeit an extreme one, of 
the solder joints that need to be reflowed.

I'll give this my blessing and defer to it unless someone wants my pictures as 
well.

Dan


On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote:

 here's a link
 http://w123maintenance.blogspot.com/2007/10/automatic-climate-control-unit-repair.html
 
 
 thanks,
 
 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins
 
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 www.javacycles.com
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Re: [MBZ] Door Seat Switches - was 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams

2013-03-07 Thread Scott Ritchey

This spray (Radio Shack contact cleaner) also does wonders for
malfunctioning seat-adjuster switches in the doors of 126 models.  I was
really dreading replacing one of those until Marshall said to just shoot
some of that spray in there and wiggle the switch.  No disassembly except
removing the seat-shaped knobs.  Worked like a charm.

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Dillon
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams

Radio shack sells a similar spray, I've used that also.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:01:19 -0500 Max Dillon
meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:

 The real-deal stuff that Marshall used to promote.  Www.Caig.com
 
 It comes in a variety of formulas, I think I have the D5.

I see. Getting it here before the weekend would be the problem.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
I only drove it a couple hundred miles and parked it.

Sometimes the upper radiator hose would stay pressurized after the engine 
cooled, so I'm suspicious that either the head is bad, the gasket is bad, or I 
didn't properly torque the head bolts.

I'd love to borrow that fancy torque wrench that Rolf used, and re-torque my 
head bolts.

I'm also concerned about a problem with one of the hydraulic lifters.  You may 
recall that I had to bleed one down to get full valve closure for one valve.  
When I fixed that, I discovered that the bore for the intake valve lifter for 
the number six cylinder has a problem.  The bottom half of the bore is too big, 
looks like it was eroded away.  The lifter can get cocked in the bore, making 
it very hard to remove.

At first I thought that some grit must have contaminated that bore during my 
work, and wore out the bottom half.  After talking with a machinist, he 
explained that is not possible.  If grit had contaminated the bore, it would 
have scored all of the bore equally, not just the lower half, and the scoring 
would look nothing like erosion.  He thinks it is a casting flaw, and had 
probably been there from the factory.  I'm worried that eventually the lifter 
will get cocked so bad it will break the camshaft.

So I'm going to dive in again soon, work has finally slowed a little so I'm not 
traveling every week, but I'm not too happy about pulling the head off again.

I really wish there was an oversize repair lifter, do I could machine out the 
bore to restore it and keep this head.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Max, what's the latest with your 300TD?  You had a head prob; is that
solved; is it running, etc.?
Is the E300's cooing sys (cabin) OK?

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please

2013-03-07 Thread Mountain Man
zip car? zipcar.com
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
If you remove the bi-metallic strip and the pin, you can add oil through the 
hole the pin came from.

I used 3000 cps viscosity silicone oil, got a really small bottle at a hobby 
store.  They sell it for remote controlled car differentials.  I think the cost 
was $10 or so.

I found the best way to introduce the thick oil into the small hole was to heat 
the clutch assembly with a heat gun, then allow the oil to be drawn in as the 
fan cooled.  Someone posted on the Web somewhere the fill capacity; if you 
exceed that and overfill, the fan may be locked on even when cold.

You can test the fill level on the bench if you clamp the clutch in a vice and 
test how hard the rotation is when heated with the heat gun versus when cold.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

I may look into this next week, as I am off for the week for spring
break.

I don't like the pin modification, as it is permanent and the fan
clutch is a rather pricey part.

I figured I would check on the fluid as well.  Can you expound on this
some more?  I seem to recall some discussion about fan clutches and
checking/adding fluid, but don't recall the details.

Thanks,

Dan


On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

 Looks easy enough.  Two methods are discussed, adding a bolt and
shortening the pin.  You could undo the bolt, and if you had a spare
pin you could restore the original, so neither modification needs to be
permanent.
 
 On my '95 E300, I refilled the clutch with oil, that worked for me.
 
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 Anyone ever try this?
 
 http://www.k6jrf.com/MB_vfc.html
 
 I see that it's originally from Stu, meaning that it must be
relatively
 safe.
 
 Dan
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Spraying W124 multi-function switch

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
From fuzzy memory:  At the base of the stalk is a rubber cover.  Pull that up, 
the contacts you want to clean are in there.

OR you may need to take apart the steering column cover enough to expose the 
base of the stalk.

If you think about it, when you push or pull on the stalk, it must rotate on an 
axle near the base, so the contacts are near where that movement occurs.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

I went to Radio Shack today (yes, Los Alamos actually has one :-) ) and
got a bottle of their Precision Electronics Cleaner. They had bottles
of spray lubricant for $6.xx, bottles of spray cleaner/lubricant for
$9.xx, and bottles of cleaner for $13.xx. The bottles of cleaner were
larger than the bottles of lubricant and cleaner/lubricant.

Anyway, I went out to the car and looked where to spray it, but I could
not see any possible opening into which to insert the spray tube.

So, where do I spray it?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Italian car

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks Dan.

Wow, not one positive comment.

I guess that an R107 is probably in my future, if we add a convertible to the 
fleet.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

Wow, the only worse Italian car I can think of would be a Fiat 124
Sport coupe, although I am sure there are others

One of my buddies had one of these (Spider convertible) when we were in
tech school. Despite having a complete campus full of automotive
diagnostic and repair resources literally at our fingertips, this car
was still a nightmare to keep running.

But it was fun to drive!

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:

 1975 Fiat Spider (convertible).
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone?
 Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please

2013-03-07 Thread Gerry Archer
For years I've heard that Fiestas get high mpg.  Was yours a 2012?  Was it 
four cylinders and stickshift?  Thanks,
Gerry.who is thinking about getting a high mpg gasser but is leery of 
the Toyos.


From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
If you decide to go new you could save a little money with a Fiesta. I was 
well pleased with the one I had last week. 35mpg as I absolutely thrashed 
it in LA traffic. Would certainly do better driven moderately in a less 
hilly area. Big enough, comfortable enough, more than enough power.


On the way back to the airport I found myself doing 80mph without 
realizing it, the engine didn't seem buzzy or concerned with the speed at 
all.


-Curt

Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 18:04:22 -0500
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Yes that would be #1 or #2.

--R

On 3/7/13 5:04 PM, WILTON wrote:

How 'bout a new Focus not loaded down with lotsa unnecessary,
expensive crap?  Make sure it has AC, though ('guess that has become
fairly basic by now, eh?).

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD

2013-03-07 Thread Peter Frederick
You should only need a torque wrench for the first step of head bolt  
tightening, to 35 ft/lbs.  After that it's a 90 degree turn, wait 10  
min, do another 90 degrees.  If you attempt to use a torque wrench for  
final tightening, you will either break the bolts or leave it too  
loose, depending on what you try to use for a torque.  These are  
stretch bolts, and do NOT have a defined final torque.


Not only that, buy my friend Hans strongly recommends tossing them any  
time you take the head off and put brand new ones in.  It's fine to  
reuse them on the gassers if they aren't stretched too much, but he's  
never had a head seal properly for long if you re-use the diesel ones.  
Much cheaper than a new head gasket set.


Can't help you on the lifter bore, you might want to take it too a  
good head shop and see if they can sleeve it for you.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Italian car

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
You could pretty much say this about any Italian car, for that matter, so don't 
be disheartened.

Do you already have the car?

If so, the heck with what people say!  Drive and enjoy it as long as it will 
run.  If not, hold out for something a bit more reliable.

And yeah, I worked on X1/9s, too.  OMG, what a nightmare if you had to do any 
sort of engine work.

My BIL at that the time had a 124 Sport Coupe, which a high school friend's dad 
worked on almost weekly (he was an independent mechanic).  We joked about the 
car putting my friend through college, which it did contrite to substantially.

Later the BIL bought an X1/9 as soon as they came out.  I took the covers off 
and had a look at it.  I immediately informed him that I would not be working 
on the car.

Dan


On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

 Thanks Dan.
 
 Wow, not one positive comment.
 
 I guess that an R107 is probably in my future, if we add a convertible to the 
 fleet.
 
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 Wow, the only worse Italian car I can think of would be a Fiat 124
 Sport coupe, although I am sure there are others
 
 One of my buddies had one of these (Spider convertible) when we were in
 tech school. Despite having a complete campus full of automotive
 diagnostic and repair resources literally at our fingertips, this car
 was still a nightmare to keep running.
 
 But it was fun to drive!
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:
 
 1975 Fiat Spider (convertible).
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone?
 Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what?
 
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Re: [MBZ] In mourning

2013-03-07 Thread WILTON

Yep.  Looks good.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning



Last time I was in NC I had the 83 300d.  Everyone looks at that car so
it's hard to tell.  Here is a pic to see why.

Mike
On Mar 7, 2013 10:56 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Have you tried Raleigh/Durham/RTP area of NC?  NY plates oughta feel right
at home there.


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning


Wilton,

 You are spot on!  NY tags suck.  The insurance is overpriced,
registration fees are terrible and inspections for newer cars are getting
worse.  Not to mention every time you go to a Southern state other than
Florida folks look at you like some sort of city folk that is about to 
rob

something.

Mike
On Mar 7, 2013 10:42 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Maybe I've been lucky to have never had NY tags.  ;)  (I'm kidding, 
I'm

kidding!)
Point taken.

Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning


 Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then
get


back to me on that.  I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more
intimidating.

Mike
On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Sounds good to me, but or some place better?  Where could be better


 than GA?  ;)

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning


 My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate

 sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car

parts
for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can 
post

on
their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy. 
We
then become the corporate poster children for their parts.  Some of 
us

will
become media celebs...

As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or
someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where 
they

tell
us what's new and we tell em what works.

Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., 
with

or
without scantily clad girls.  from pristine cars to working Rusty but
Trusty cars.   The message is buy our parts and save money by not
having
outrageous car payments.  be a 'merkin rugged individual






(angry fatmen not allowed.  Offer void outside the continental USA.
(the
usual disclaimers))



 So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it 
hosted


 at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and

drinking?
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20




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Re: [MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification

2013-03-07 Thread Kevin Kraly
That silicone oil was hard enough to get into the differential of my RC 
truck, but I think I used 10,000 CPS.  I have a bottle of 50,000, and it's 
nearly Solid!  I think it's available in 100,000 and 500,000 viscosities 
which would nearly lock up the gears.  The toughest part was not to get it 
onto anything including clothing since it's so hard to get off!


Kevin in LaPorte, CO, no Mercedes Diesels, but I have 6 RC trucks plus my 
latest addition, the new Traxxas 1:10 scale 4wd Rally Race car, one fun 
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Re: [MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification

2013-03-07 Thread Dan Penoff
Ahhh, so the pin comes out, allowing you to fill through the hole it is located 
in.  Got it.

I'm not terribly keen about modifying the bimetallic strip, no matter what Stu 
says, despite wanting to do everything I can to keep the temps down.  I will 
probably just try and fill it as much as I can and live with that - worst case 
scenario would be that the fan is on when it's cooler, which isn't a big deal.

I am planning on doing the resistor addition to the aux fan circuit as well.  
That should help with under hood temps, too.

No problems with cooling, just wanting to get ahead of the seasons down here so 
it runs as cool as possible, that's all.

Going to the stealership tomorrow to pick up a couple of gallons of the new 
blue coolant.  Found my former parts guy is still there and willing to sell to 
me at very good prices.  A gallon of coolant lists for $31, my price is $23. 
Nice.

Dan


On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

 If you remove the bi-metallic strip and the pin, you can add oil through the 
 hole the pin came from.
 
 I used 3000 cps viscosity silicone oil, got a really small bottle at a hobby 
 store.  They sell it for remote controlled car differentials.  I think the 
 cost was $10 or so.
 
 I found the best way to introduce the thick oil into the small hole was to 
 heat the clutch assembly with a heat gun, then allow the oil to be drawn in 
 as the fan cooled.  Someone posted on the Web somewhere the fill capacity; if 
 you exceed that and overfill, the fan may be locked on even when cold.
 
 You can test the fill level on the bench if you clamp the clutch in a vice 
 and test how hard the rotation is when heated with the heat gun versus when 
 cold.
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 I may look into this next week, as I am off for the week for spring
 break.
 
 I don't like the pin modification, as it is permanent and the fan
 clutch is a rather pricey part.
 
 I figured I would check on the fluid as well.  Can you expound on this
 some more?  I seem to recall some discussion about fan clutches and
 checking/adding fluid, but don't recall the details.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
 
 Looks easy enough.  Two methods are discussed, adding a bolt and
 shortening the pin.  You could undo the bolt, and if you had a spare
 pin you could restore the original, so neither modification needs to be
 permanent.
 
 On my '95 E300, I refilled the clutch with oil, that worked for me.
 
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 Anyone ever try this?
 
 http://www.k6jrf.com/MB_vfc.html
 
 I see that it's originally from Stu, meaning that it must be
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 safe.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification

2013-03-07 Thread Peter Frederick
Two points on the fan clutch -- first, the fluid leaked out  
originally, it's very very unlikely the new fluid won't.  You should  
buy a goodly supply, as you will be doing this again pretty soon  
unless you take it all apart and replace the seals, which is what's  
wrong with it.


Second, clean your AC condenser and radiator.  Lotta crap in there  
even though it looks clean.  I replaced the condenser on my TE last  
fall, it was punctured.  Looked pretty clean, just a bit dusty (I live  
next to farm fields,eh?).  Ha, held it up the the light and it's  
almost completely occluded.  Engine temp dropped quite a bit with the  
new condenser, even with the AC on.


Get some evaporator cleaner and clean it, should help quite a bit with  
lowering operating temps.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Italian car

2013-03-07 Thread Gerry Archer

Yugos were Fiats.
Gerry

From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
You could pretty much say this about any Italian car, for that matter, so 
don't be disheartened.

Do you already have the car?
If so, the heck with what people say!  Drive and enjoy it as long as it 
will run.  If not, hold out for something a bit more reliable.
And yeah, I worked on X1/9s, too.  OMG, what a nightmare if you had to do 
any sort of engine work.
My BIL at that the time had a 124 Sport Coupe, which a high school 
friend's dad worked on almost weekly (he was an independent mechanic).  We 
joked about the car putting my friend through college, which it did 
contrite to substantially.
Later the BIL bought an X1/9 as soon as they came out.  I took the covers 
off and had a look at it.  I immediately informed him that I would not be 
working on the car.

Dan


On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Max Dillon wrote:


Thanks Dan.

Wow, not one positive comment.

I guess that an R107 is probably in my future, if we add a convertible to 
the fleet.


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'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:


Wow, the only worse Italian car I can think of would be a Fiat 124
Sport coupe, although I am sure there are others

One of my buddies had one of these (Spider convertible) when we were in
tech school. Despite having a complete campus full of automotive
diagnostic and repair resources literally at our fingertips, this car
was still a nightmare to keep running.

But it was fun to drive!

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:


1975 Fiat Spider (convertible).
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Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone?
Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what?

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Re: [MBZ] Italian car

2013-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
Haven't bought the car, don't intend to now.  I'm sure it would be a blast to 
drive, but I really don't need a high-maintenance un-reliable car, no matter 
how fun or pretty.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

You could pretty much say this about any Italian car, for that matter,
so don't be disheartened.

Do you already have the car?

If so, the heck with what people say!  Drive and enjoy it as long as it
will run.  If not, hold out for something a bit more reliable.

And yeah, I worked on X1/9s, too.  OMG, what a nightmare if you had to
do any sort of engine work.

My BIL at that the time had a 124 Sport Coupe, which a high school
friend's dad worked on almost weekly (he was an independent mechanic). 
We joked about the car putting my friend through college, which it did
contrite to substantially.

Later the BIL bought an X1/9 as soon as they came out.  I took the
covers off and had a look at it.  I immediately informed him that I
would not be working on the car.

Dan


On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

 Thanks Dan.
 
 Wow, not one positive comment.
 
 I guess that an R107 is probably in my future, if we add a
convertible to the fleet.
 
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 Wow, the only worse Italian car I can think of would be a Fiat 124
 Sport coupe, although I am sure there are others
 
 One of my buddies had one of these (Spider convertible) when we were
in
 tech school. Despite having a complete campus full of automotive
 diagnostic and repair resources literally at our fingertips, this
car
 was still a nightmare to keep running.
 
 But it was fun to drive!
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:
 
 1975 Fiat Spider (convertible).
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
 
 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
 BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone?
 Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what?
 
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