Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams
Radio shack sells a similar spray, I've used that also. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:01:19 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: The real-deal stuff that Marshall used to promote. Www.Caig.com It comes in a variety of formulas, I think I have the D5. I see. Getting it here before the weekend would be the problem. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
Ha! Yes, but far better looking and far more pleasurable when actually running... This would be a weekend cruiser, not a daily driver. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody know anything about old Fiats? Almost as bad as a renault ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
I highly recommend watching the rock auto clearance sales. I've gotten some quality stuff for cheap. Sent from my ASUS Pad Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I see a lot of people on other forums touting Autohaus, but based on the prices they are quoting, much of it is the Chinese URO brand crap. When the prices are half of what other suppliers are quoting, you have to ask yourself what could be so different that accounts for something costing so much less? Dan GIGO (one of) the great things about Q is that he could supply chinee crap if you want it, OEM stuff, if you wanted, or OE if that's what you want, and some times quality third party parts, if that's what fills the need, all at competitive prices, and with a smile and a gawga drawl. And an occasional BBQ. GIGO still holds. If you want chinee crap, why bother with AZ? just buy it on fleabay or crockauto. Or if you want to be abused by an angry fatman, go fer it. GIGO. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
I will certainly miss this. The nearest non autozoo parts place is a worldac client, so I will still feel like I am getting parts from Rusty, so not all is entirely lost. Will Trent still have access to the Florida warehouse? Does my account have a special notation ball buster? -Rolf Sent from my ASUS Pad OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: And that was one of the value adds that Rusty brought to the table - steering us away from the crap. Also his deep knowledge of which parts which MB uses and the ability to find the part you need with just a verbal description over the phone. He will be missed. On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Let me clarify my post about Autohauz, you do need to watch what you are ordering there and try to steer clear of the cheap china parts, even ordering OEM parts from OEM brands when it arrives it turns out to be made in China. -- OK Don, who doesn't have a Mercedes at the present time, so doesn't need parts! 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1957 C182A ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Star Diagnostic rental?
I doubt it covers my 140, but if it did I would be on board. Dan On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: How many people would be interested in renting the SDS tool. I'm considering purchasing one. I would arrange some type of Redbox/Netflix type shipping system. -- Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams
Pricey, but definitely the best electronics cleaner you can buy. I have both D5 and their slider/volume control product in the chemical cabinet. Nothing better to resurrect noisy switches or slide/rotary potentiometers on electronic equipment. Dan On Mar 6, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: The real-deal stuff that Marshall used to promote. Www.Caig.com It comes in a variety of formulas, I think I have the D5. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 22:40:06 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I fixed the same problem on my E300, deoxit sprayed into the contacts at the base of the stalk aka multi-function switch did the trick. Wonderful! I was dreading having to take that apart and swap it with the one in our '94 E420 in the next three days. Now all I have to do is find some spray deoxit. What kind of stuff did you use? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams
DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT use WD-40 in a place where you want electrical contacts cleaned!!! WD-40 is an insulator and will wreak havoc in electrical connections. When I worked on pinball machines and other coin operated devices, I found many that were deemed unrepairable due to a well-meaning owner hosing down banks of relays and stepper motors with WD-40. WD-40 insulates and displaces moisture. That's fine if things got wet, but especially in low voltage/low current applications it will effectively insulate exposed contacts and leave a film that is difficult to remove. Use a high quality contact cleaner, such as Caig DeOxIt, or in a pinch you can find good quality stuff at the big box home improvement stores or Radio Shack. Radio Shack's TV Tuner Cleaner is good stuff. Dan On Mar 6, 2013, at 11:47 PM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: Try some WD40 to see if you can get it working again. Had the same issue with a 124 I had, worked on my 201 rear window switches as well. You can always follow up with CAIG D5 later on. On 3/6/2013 11:03 PM, Craig wrote: I see. Getting it here before the weekend would be the problem. Craig -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
YES!!! Avoid MTC. I learned my lesson after 3 MTC monovalve failures in 2 months, and an MTC aux pump that leaked most of my coolant in downtown Chicago! In the case of the aux pump, the screws that held the pump case to the motor kept loosening resulting in an engine compartment coated with anti-freeze..usually halfway between Maine and New York City. On Mar 6, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Same with MTC... avoid it all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
While I think it has already been said, the advantages Rusty provided weren't price, but the understanding of what was acceptable as a quality part and what wasn't. I don't have an issue paying more for a quality part - I have been amazed as I have re-entered the MB world with the 140 and seen the flood of substandard, rather, crappy parts, that are coming out of China, such as those under the URO brand. Do consider that there are some online parts suppliers that give you a choice, such as Rock Auto, but their support is marginal at best, and they often attempt to pad their margins with outlandish shipping charges. Case in point: I have a discount voucher from Rock Auto for something I bought for one of the Focuses. I thought I might see what a set of front brake rotors would cost for the 140. I found the same brand that I would buy from Rusty, which was close to the same price as Rusty's web site. From Rusty there was no shipping cost. Rock Auto wanted over $40 for shipping!!! I will give Rusty's replacement the benefit of the doubt and see how he does, as I am sure others will. I would also expect that fellow list members will share their experiences here so we can properly vet him and also help him assimilate into our world. We can take advantage of his newbie-ness to help him understand what our expectations are and how he can best meet our needs. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: YES!!! Avoid MTC. I learned my lesson after 3 MTC monovalve failures in 2 months, and an MTC aux pump that leaked most of my coolant in downtown Chicago! In the case of the aux pump, the screws that held the pump case to the motor kept loosening resulting in an engine compartment coated with anti-freeze..usually halfway between Maine and New York City. On Mar 6, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Same with MTC... avoid it all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Star Diagnostic rental?
Daughter/SIL have. It may be an 07 or 08, not sure. Would that matter to the SDS? The dealer is ripping them off on repairs and service. Gerry From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net You got a gl? I did not think they came out till 07 On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: How much rent and will it work on a 2006 GL320cdi? Gerry From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net How many people would be interested in renting the SDS tool. I'm considering purchasing one. I would arrange some type of Redbox/Netflix type shipping system. -- Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5652 - Release Date: 03/06/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5652 - Release Date: 03/06/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Clarification: the advantages Rusty provided along with good prices. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: While I think it has already been said, the advantages Rusty provided weren't price, but the understanding of what was acceptable as a quality part and what wasn't. I don't have an issue paying more for a quality part - I have been amazed as I have re-entered the MB world with the 140 and seen the flood of substandard, rather, crappy parts, that are coming out of China, such as those under the URO brand. Do consider that there are some online parts suppliers that give you a choice, such as Rock Auto, but their support is marginal at best, and they often attempt to pad their margins with outlandish shipping charges. Case in point: I have a discount voucher from Rock Auto for something I bought for one of the Focuses. I thought I might see what a set of front brake rotors would cost for the 140. I found the same brand that I would buy from Rusty, which was close to the same price as Rusty's web site. From Rusty there was no shipping cost. Rock Auto wanted over $40 for shipping!!! I will give Rusty's replacement the benefit of the doubt and see how he does, as I am sure others will. I would also expect that fellow list members will share their experiences here so we can properly vet him and also help him assimilate into our world. We can take advantage of his newbie-ness to help him understand what our expectations are and how he can best meet our needs. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: YES!!! Avoid MTC. I learned my lesson after 3 MTC monovalve failures in 2 months, and an MTC aux pump that leaked most of my coolant in downtown Chicago! In the case of the aux pump, the screws that held the pump case to the motor kept loosening resulting in an engine compartment coated with anti-freeze..usually halfway between Maine and New York City. On Mar 6, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Same with MTC... avoid it all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Trent needs to buy a neglected 240D and spend his weekends fixing it. That will establish rapport with the rest of us on the list and introduce him to the nature of the beasts. Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com While I think it has already been said, the advantages Rusty provided weren't price, but the understanding of what was acceptable as a quality part and what wasn't. I don't have an issue paying more for a quality part - I have been amazed as I have re-entered the MB world with the 140 and seen the flood of substandard, rather, crappy parts, that are coming out of China, such as those under the URO brand. Do consider that there are some online parts suppliers that give you a choice, such as Rock Auto, but their support is marginal at best, and they often attempt to pad their margins with outlandish shipping charges. Case in point: I have a discount voucher from Rock Auto for something I bought for one of the Focuses. I thought I might see what a set of front brake rotors would cost for the 140. I found the same brand that I would buy from Rusty, which was close to the same price as Rusty's web site. From Rusty there was no shipping cost. Rock Auto wanted over $40 for shipping!!! I will give Rusty's replacement the benefit of the doubt and see how he does, as I am sure others will. I would also expect that fellow list members will share their experiences here so we can properly vet him and also help him assimilate into our world. We can take advantage of his newbie-ness to help him understand what our expectations are and how he can best meet our needs. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: YES!!! Avoid MTC. I learned my lesson after 3 MTC monovalve failures in 2 months, and an MTC aux pump that leaked most of my coolant in downtown Chicago! In the case of the aux pump, the screws that held the pump case to the motor kept loosening resulting in an engine compartment coated with anti-freeze..usually halfway between Maine and New York City. On Mar 6, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Same with MTC... avoid it all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5652 - Release Date: 03/06/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Actually General Parts sold Car Quest or rather most of the Car Quest stores to Advance early this year. The nice thing about my local CQ is they've got a lot of what I need in stock, front wheel bearings, oil filter, fuel filter etc. And most other stuff they can have tomorrow morning at no extra charge. Suspension parts I've bought from them are usually marked Moog, made in the USA which I appreciate. -Curt Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 02:42:43 + From: buymbpa...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning Message-ID: 1615751195-1362624076-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1130564557-@b18.c4.bise6.blackberry Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Curt, WorldPac owns Car Quest so Trent can drop ship all that as well. Sent on the Sprint? Now Network from my BlackBerry? -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Sender: Mercedes mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 18:31:55 To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning And often the parts listed are simply not available at any price. I shall order some from Trent but will probably rely more on my local Car Quest. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Lets not forget that he would match Autorude Arizona. So he had a price advantage as well:) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Clarification: the advantages Rusty provided along with good prices. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: While I think it has already been said, the advantages Rusty provided weren't price, but the understanding of what was acceptable as a quality part and what wasn't. I don't have an issue paying more for a quality part - I have been amazed as I have re-entered the MB world with the 140 and seen the flood of substandard, rather, crappy parts, that are coming out of China, such as those under the URO brand. Do consider that there are some online parts suppliers that give you a choice, such as Rock Auto, but their support is marginal at best, and they often attempt to pad their margins with outlandish shipping charges. Case in point: I have a discount voucher from Rock Auto for something I bought for one of the Focuses. I thought I might see what a set of front brake rotors would cost for the 140. I found the same brand that I would buy from Rusty, which was close to the same price as Rusty's web site. From Rusty there was no shipping cost. Rock Auto wanted over $40 for shipping!!! I will give Rusty's replacement the benefit of the doubt and see how he does, as I am sure others will. I would also expect that fellow list members will share their experiences here so we can properly vet him and also help him assimilate into our world. We can take advantage of his newbie-ness to help him understand what our expectations are and how he can best meet our needs. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 7:38 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: YES!!! Avoid MTC. I learned my lesson after 3 MTC monovalve failures in 2 months, and an MTC aux pump that leaked most of my coolant in downtown Chicago! In the case of the aux pump, the screws that held the pump case to the motor kept loosening resulting in an engine compartment coated with anti-freeze..usually halfway between Maine and New York City. On Mar 6, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Same with MTC... avoid it all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams
Apparently you've missed out when Jim Cathey has been singing its praises. I have too. Usually available at Radio Shack, expensive but its the very best there is. When my little supply runs low I'll order the better stuff from Amazon. -Curt Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 21:03:22 -0700 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams Message-ID: 20130306210322.6ee490e172249fce772a5...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:01:19 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: The real-deal stuff that Marshall used to promote. Www.Caig.com It comes in a variety of formulas, I think I have the D5. I see. Getting it here before the weekend would be the problem. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams
Dan, I can only relate my success using it for the issue at hand. I was trying to offer a simple semi-permanent solution to Craig before his upcoming trip. I'm sure he has enough on his plate without having to worry about changing switches or special ordering supplies. By all means if he can get the switch operational again with a few well placed shots of WD40 actuating it, it should be followed up with something else (i.e. the D5 or replacing it entirely, didn't MB issue a TSB?). I think most on here would have the sense not douse the switch with ANYTHING (emphasizing, not yelling) while it's attached to the steering column. On 3/7/2013 7:10 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: DO NOT use WD-40 -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Star Diagnostic rental?
I use mine for my 92 300sd all the time Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:58 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I doubt it covers my 140, but if it did I would be on board. Dan On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: How many people would be interested in renting the SDS tool. I'm considering purchasing one. I would arrange some type of Redbox/Netflix type shipping system. -- Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Star Diagnostic rental?
You need the sds for anything mid 90's and up for sure Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Daughter/SIL have. It may be an 07 or 08, not sure. Would that matter to the SDS? The dealer is ripping them off on repairs and service. Gerry From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net You got a gl? I did not think they came out till 07 On Mar 6, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: How much rent and will it work on a 2006 GL320cdi? Gerry From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net How many people would be interested in renting the SDS tool. I'm considering purchasing one. I would arrange some type of Redbox/Netflix type shipping system. -- Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5652 - Release Date: 03/06/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5652 - Release Date: 03/06/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coast to Coast on 2 gallons of gas
There are not many creatures on this planet stupider or dumber than most of the the journalists But... They Care. They've been told to. And how. B. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams
Am I looking at a fuse problem, a multi-function switch problem, or something else? A shot of Caig Deoxit, right in the gizzard. No need to remove it, but it helps to notice _where_ the contacts are so that they indeed get wet. I bought the first (tiny, relatively expensive) Deoxit at Rat Shack, I've since ordered bigger cans etc. via Amazon. The D5 is the usual spray formula, 95% propellent and evaporative flushing agent, leaves 5% on as cleaner/protectant. The flakey dome light in the Frankenheap is now not flakey. A Must Have, and DO NOT use WD40 for this purpose! I imagine that spray cheese would work just about as well for that. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
'Sounds good to me, but or some place better? Where could be better than GA? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car parts for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post on their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy. We then become the corporate poster children for their parts. Some of us will become media celebs... As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they tell us what's new and we tell em what works. Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with or without scantily clad girls. from pristine cars to working Rusty but Trusty cars. The message is buy our parts and save money by not having outrageous car payments. be a 'merkin rugged individual (angry fatmen not allowed. Offer void outside the continental USA. (the usual disclaimers)) So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and drinking? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning And that was one of the value adds that Rusty brought to the table - steering us away from the crap. Also his deep knowledge of which parts which MB uses and the ability to find the part you need with just a verbal description over the phone. He will be missed. Hear! Here! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get back to me on that. I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more intimidating. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Sounds good to me, but or some place better? Where could be better than GA? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car parts for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post on their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy. We then become the corporate poster children for their parts. Some of us will become media celebs... As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they tell us what's new and we tell em what works. Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with or without scantily clad girls. from pristine cars to working Rusty but Trusty cars. The message is buy our parts and save money by not having outrageous car payments. be a 'merkin rugged individual (angry fatmen not allowed. Offer void outside the continental USA. (the usual disclaimers)) So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and drinking? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
I've heard of boats being good weekend cruisers, too. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Italian car Ha! Yes, but far better looking and far more pleasurable when actually running... This would be a weekend cruiser, not a daily driver. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody know anything about old Fiats? Almost as bad as a renault ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: In mourning
I'm in! Mike On Mar 6, 2013 5:37 PM, rdeaf...@aol.com wrote: How about a Wilton Q? Greenland Q..Wilton can fly us over after arriving with our Benz's { He can tell us MORE stories on the way !!]And gather blueberries while there. Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] testing posting
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Re: [MBZ] Italian car
Guy in my neighborhood uses a Ferrari 308 (a la Magnum PI) as his daily driver, saw him this morning. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've heard of boats being good weekend cruisers, too. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Italian car Ha! Yes, but far better looking and far more pleasurable when actually running... This would be a weekend cruiser, not a daily driver. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody know anything about old Fiats? Almost as bad as a renault ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Did you have your gay pride and Obama stickers on there too? --R On 3/7/13 10:28 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get back to me on that. I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more intimidating. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
That doesn't sound like great customer service to me. If I order a specific brand, I expect that to arrive in my package. That's a failure of customer service called bait'n'switch. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) On 3/6/2013 7:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Let me clarify my post about Autohauz, you do need to watch what you are ordering there and try to steer clear of the cheap china parts, even ordering OEM parts from OEM brands when it arrives it turns out to be made in China. On 3/6/2013 6:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: A search on the internet for Trent Fiorini brings up a guy in IL who works for a flooring business, along with other members of his family. Is this our man? I wouldn't think so, as a well run local floor business could do much better than a single guy trying to sell car parts on the internet. With big guys like autohausaz out there cornering the market with cheap chinese parts, it seems like a very bad time to get into the parts business as a new guy. This is just my opinion, of course. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Maybe I've been lucky to have never had NY tags. ;) (I'm kidding, I'm kidding!) Point taken. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get back to me on that. I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more intimidating. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Sounds good to me, but or some place better? Where could be better than GA? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car parts for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post on their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy. We then become the corporate poster children for their parts. Some of us will become media celebs... As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they tell us what's new and we tell em what works. Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with or without scantily clad girls. from pristine cars to working Rusty but Trusty cars. The message is buy our parts and save money by not having outrageous car payments. be a 'merkin rugged individual (angry fatmen not allowed. Offer void outside the continental USA. (the usual disclaimers)) So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and drinking? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams
Understood. My concern comes from personal experience, and the confusion that has occurred over the years from people spraying WD-40 on ignition parts like distributor caps on a wet engine. While this use is totally appropriate for displacing moisture, it gets misunderstood as making WD-40 acceptable for use as an electrical cleaner, which it is not. Having directly experienced the havoc that WD-40 can wreak on electrical components I am probably overly sensitive to the inappropriate use and resulting problems that occur when done so. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: Dan, I can only relate my success using it for the issue at hand. I was trying to offer a simple semi-permanent solution to Craig before his upcoming trip. I'm sure he has enough on his plate without having to worry about changing switches or special ordering supplies. By all means if he can get the switch operational again with a few well placed shots of WD40 actuating it, it should be followed up with something else (i.e. the D5 or replacing it entirely, didn't MB issue a TSB?). I think most on here would have the sense not douse the switch with ANYTHING (emphasizing, not yelling) while it's attached to the steering column. On 3/7/2013 7:10 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: DO NOT use WD-40 -- Chris J. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes
Probably notI've seen more than one person with outta state tags that have lived here longer than my 4 years. I'd rather not chance it though... Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) On 3/6/2013 7:40 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: why the heck didnt you register your vehicles in AR? Because after six months or so of seeing his vehicles every day around Forest Park, the local constable would've been up his rear farther than a proctological exam. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
'Sounds good to me, but or some place better? Where could be better than GA? ;) Wilton Northern states in summer. Canada in summer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] testing posting
Failed failing --R ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] testing posting
Yep. 'Lectrons are a-runnin' and a-zippin' and a-zappin'. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:37 AM Subject: [MBZ] testing posting --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
No. Was about 20 years ago. Maybe the jacked up suspension and bigger tires, long haired driver and loud mouthed ex wife had something to do with it though. There weren't many Subarus in GA, especially lifted 4wd ones. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 10:39 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Did you have your gay pride and Obama stickers on there too? --R On 3/7/13 10:28 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get back to me on that. I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more intimidating. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] testing posting
Actually this indicates something else is failing -- I have sent another post 3 times and it has failed. --R On 3/7/13 10:44 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Failed failing --R ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Wilton, You are spot on! NY tags suck. The insurance is overpriced, registration fees are terrible and inspections for newer cars are getting worse. Not to mention every time you go to a Southern state other than Florida folks look at you like some sort of city folk that is about to rob something. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 10:42 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Maybe I've been lucky to have never had NY tags. ;) (I'm kidding, I'm kidding!) Point taken. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get back to me on that. I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more intimidating. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Sounds good to me, but or some place better? Where could be better than GA? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car parts for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post on their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy. We then become the corporate poster children for their parts. Some of us will become media celebs... As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they tell us what's new and we tell em what works. Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with or without scantily clad girls. from pristine cars to working Rusty but Trusty cars. The message is buy our parts and save money by not having outrageous car payments. be a 'merkin rugged individual (angry fatmen not allowed. Offer void outside the continental USA. (the usual disclaimers)) So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and drinking? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Yep. I've lived in both. 'Much nicer/better summers up nawth. BTW, fantastically beautiful summers in MI UP, Canada and even Greenland. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning 'Sounds good to me, but or some place better? Where could be better than GA? ;) Wilton Northern states in summer. Canada in summer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
A friend here tried that with his Testa Rossa. Said it was too dangerous as everyone kept staring at it and swerving in the direction they were looking. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 10:38 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Guy in my neighborhood uses a Ferrari 308 (a la Magnum PI) as his daily driver, saw him this morning. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've heard of boats being good weekend cruisers, too. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Italian car Ha! Yes, but far better looking and far more pleasurable when actually running... This would be a weekend cruiser, not a daily driver. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody know anything about old Fiats? Almost as bad as a renault ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes
If you park in your garage, it makes it more difficult for the lokel yokels to sniff you out and find you. However, if the lokel yokel see you on the road often and remembers, you are most likely toast. rules and enforcement vary by state. in the 70s, we had to take the furrin licensed pickup truck out of state once a month and prove it with gas receipts etc. It was highly suspect because it was licensed in Kansas. Denver colorado was really bad. Don't know about now. They'd cruise the streets and apt. parking lots looking for furrin plates. They'd write a ticket and you had to prove you didn't live in the rathole state. Probably notI've seen more than one person with outta state tags that have lived here longer than my 4 years. I'd rather not chance it though... Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Cheap $#!^ and $8/hr customer service. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) On 3/6/2013 7:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: I see a lot of people on other forums touting Autohaus, but based on the prices they are quoting, much of it is the Chinese URO brand crap. When the prices are half of what other suppliers are quoting, you have to ask yourself what could be so different that accounts for something costing so much less? Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 6, 2013, at 8:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Let me clarify my post about Autohauz, you do need to watch what you are ordering there and try to steer clear of the cheap china parts, even ordering OEM parts from OEM brands when it arrives it turns out to be made in China. On 3/6/2013 6:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: A search on the internet for Trent Fiorini brings up a guy in IL who works for a flooring business, along with other members of his family. Is this our man? I wouldn't think so, as a well run local floor business could do much better than a single guy trying to sell car parts on the internet. With big guys like autohausaz out there cornering the market with cheap chinese parts, it seems like a very bad time to get into the parts business as a new guy. This is just my opinion, of course. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Have you tried Raleigh/Durham/RTP area of NC? NY plates oughta feel right at home there. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning Wilton, You are spot on! NY tags suck. The insurance is overpriced, registration fees are terrible and inspections for newer cars are getting worse. Not to mention every time you go to a Southern state other than Florida folks look at you like some sort of city folk that is about to rob something. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 10:42 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Maybe I've been lucky to have never had NY tags. ;) (I'm kidding, I'm kidding!) Point taken. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get back to me on that. I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more intimidating. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Sounds good to me, but or some place better? Where could be better than GA? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car parts for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post on their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy. We then become the corporate poster children for their parts. Some of us will become media celebs... As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they tell us what's new and we tell em what works. Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with or without scantily clad girls. from pristine cars to working Rusty but Trusty cars. The message is buy our parts and save money by not having outrageous car payments. be a 'merkin rugged individual (angry fatmen not allowed. Offer void outside the continental USA. (the usual disclaimers)) So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and drinking? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For
Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes
Every village here has stickers that you pay $30-50/year for. After the deadline, they'll drive every alley and check all the vehicles that are visible, even the ones parked on private property. They ticket everyone that hasn't paid. Not worth chancing the outta state registration. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) On 3/7/2013 9:54 AM, Dieselhead wrote: If you park in your garage, it makes it more difficult for the lokel yokels to sniff you out and find you. However, if the lokel yokel see you on the road often and remembers, you are most likely toast. rules and enforcement vary by state. in the 70s, we had to take the furrin licensed pickup truck out of state once a month and prove it with gas receipts etc. It was highly suspect because it was licensed in Kansas. Denver colorado was really bad. Don't know about now. They'd cruise the streets and apt. parking lots looking for furrin plates. They'd write a ticket and you had to prove you didn't live in the rathole state. Probably notI've seen more than one person with outta state tags that have lived here longer than my 4 years. I'd rather not chance it though... Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes
Dieselhead wrote: If you park in your garage, it makes it more difficult for the lokel yokels to sniff you out and find you. However, if the lokel yokel see you on the road often and remembers, you are most likely toast. rules and enforcement vary by state. in the 70s, we had to take the furrin licensed pickup truck out of state once a month and prove it with gas receipts etc. It was highly suspect because it was licensed in Kansas. I guess RI and MO don't care as much as IL does. My nephew in law moved to RI 5-6 years ago, then to MO about a year later. Two years ago he moved back to CA, with his SUV still wearing the CA tags that expired when he was in RI. Since he had been gone so long, CA DMV had forgotten that he owed several years of back license fees when he re-registered it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes
While I was in USAF OCS for 6 months in '60, SWMBO had our '56 Chevy (Nebraska plates) at her parents' home in rural Nash Co., NC. About 3 or 4 months into it, NC HP officer eased into the yard one day and asked FIL, Whose car is that with NE plates? FIL answered, Daughter and son-in-law's car, SIL in TX attending OCS; they were in NE 'til Mar, etc. HP officer responded, Thank, Sir, have a nice day. Few years later, in GA, I had '61 and '65 Ponies registered in NC @ $10 and '64 Karman Ghia registered in GA @ '$5. (Military members can register vehicles in home of record (home state) or home of current residence. NC HP officer chose to overlook fact that we were were not in NE any more and were between long-term assignments. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes If you park in your garage, it makes it more difficult for the lokel yokels to sniff you out and find you. However, if the lokel yokel see you on the road often and remembers, you are most likely toast. rules and enforcement vary by state. in the 70s, we had to take the furrin licensed pickup truck out of state once a month and prove it with gas receipts etc. It was highly suspect because it was licensed in Kansas. Denver colorado was really bad. Don't know about now. They'd cruise the streets and apt. parking lots looking for furrin plates. They'd write a ticket and you had to prove you didn't live in the rathole state. Probably notI've seen more than one person with outta state tags that have lived here longer than my 4 years. I'd rather not chance it though... Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes
'Reminds me: I had NC temp. driver's license (no photo) for many years while in USAF. When it would expire every 4 years, NC would send me another temp, of course with notation that I was required to get a permanent license with 10 or 30 days (can't remember which) of returning to the state. Air Force brought me to Seymour Johnson AFB, NC, in Mar, '79. 'Bout 3 years later, I received notice that driver's license was about to expire; that's when I remembered that I'd been illegal (in state with temp license) for 3 years or so. 'Got it renewed; nobody said a word. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes Dieselhead wrote: If you park in your garage, it makes it more difficult for the lokel yokels to sniff you out and find you. However, if the lokel yokel see you on the road often and remembers, you are most likely toast. rules and enforcement vary by state. in the 70s, we had to take the furrin licensed pickup truck out of state once a month and prove it with gas receipts etc. It was highly suspect because it was licensed in Kansas. I guess RI and MO don't care as much as IL does. My nephew in law moved to RI 5-6 years ago, then to MO about a year later. Two years ago he moved back to CA, with his SUV still wearing the CA tags that expired when he was in RI. Since he had been gone so long, CA DMV had forgotten that he owed several years of back license fees when he re-registered it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?
Fairfield Harbor, near New Bern NC Â Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Where in NC? Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Dimitri. Not this Sunday but next, I'll still be in NC on Sunday driving back Sun/Mon. Speedi-Bleed is a pressure bleeding kit with reservoir and a cap for German m/cyl fill ports. Note:- check the rubber nubbies over the level sensors, I blew fluid all over because they had perished and failed. TTFN. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Fred, is the Speedi-Bleed a pressure or vacuum bleeder? I have a motive pressure bleeder I received as a gift some years ago. I haven't really used it yet. Will you be around this Sunday to meet up? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?
Golfing, buying, boating or all of the above? Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Fairfield Harbor, near New Bern NC Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Where in NC? Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Dimitri. Not this Sunday but next, I'll still be in NC on Sunday driving back Sun/Mon. Speedi-Bleed is a pressure bleeding kit with reservoir and a cap for German m/cyl fill ports. Note:- check the rubber nubbies over the level sensors, I blew fluid all over because they had perished and failed. TTFN. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Fred, is the Speedi-Bleed a pressure or vacuum bleeder? I have a motive pressure bleeder I received as a gift some years ago. I haven't really used it yet. Will you be around this Sunday to meet up? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brake Rotor Question
Since we are talking about various parts brands, I would be curious to know what the differences are, if any, between the suppliers for brake rotors and related parts. The names I know and see are Balo, ATE, and Brembo. I believe that both ATE and Balo are OEM suppliers, correct? Are they effectively the same for the average user? Any reason one would be a better choice over the other? Zimmerman also comes up, but not being familiar with them and seeing that they are at the lower end of the price range, I dismissed them as a possibility. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder?
Do you go I-95, I-795, US 70, etc., via Goldsboro? Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Fairfield Harbor, near New Bern NC Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Where in NC? Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Dimitri. Not this Sunday but next, I'll still be in NC on Sunday driving back Sun/Mon. Speedi-Bleed is a pressure bleeding kit with reservoir and a cap for German m/cyl fill ports. Note:- check the rubber nubbies over the level sensors, I blew fluid all over because they had perished and failed. TTFN. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: dsereta...@yahoo.com dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky master cylinder? Fred, is the Speedi-Bleed a pressure or vacuum bleeder? I have a motive pressure bleeder I received as a gift some years ago. I haven't really used it yet. Will you be around this Sunday to meet up? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Rotor Question
I know that when I drove a Volvo 240 on a paper route the only brakes that held up well were Brembo. They also make really nice racing brake parts. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Since we are talking about various parts brands, I would be curious to know what the differences are, if any, between the suppliers for brake rotors and related parts. The names I know and see are Balo, ATE, and Brembo. I believe that both ATE and Balo are OEM suppliers, correct? Are they effectively the same for the average user? Any reason one would be a better choice over the other? Zimmerman also comes up, but not being familiar with them and seeing that they are at the lower end of the price range, I dismissed them as a possibility. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Climate Control push-button unit dis-assembly?
hi all! since the fan has become intermittent and the temp control a little bit wonky, i took the ACC push-button unit out of my W123 to see if i could re-solder the connections and anything else it might need. i've got the unit out, but before i start trying to take it apart i wanted to inquire as to whether anyone here might know of a good write-up on how to open the unit up; i'd appreciate any experience that might be shared by those who've gone before me on this task. cheers! e '85 300D (Calif version) 220K+ miles. (100K+ on B99 BioDiesel) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control push-button unit dis-assembly?
E, I don't currently have a write-up for it on my web site, but I do have pictures and can guide you through the process if you want to drop me a note. If you have good soldering skills it's pretty straightforward. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:51 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: hi all! since the fan has become intermittent and the temp control a little bit wonky, i took the ACC push-button unit out of my W123 to see if i could re-solder the connections and anything else it might need. i've got the unit out, but before i start trying to take it apart i wanted to inquire as to whether anyone here might know of a good write-up on how to open the unit up; i'd appreciate any experience that might be shared by those who've gone before me on this task. cheers! e '85 300D (Calif version) 220K+ miles. (100K+ on B99 BioDiesel) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OL: Re: Climate Control push-button unit dis-assembly?
hi Dan! thanks; anything you can share would be appreciated. (my soldering skills are abysmal but fortunately i have friends that work in the labs of my clients!) cheers! e On 07/Mar/13 09:56, Dan Penoff wrote: E, I don't currently have a write-up for it on my web site, but I do have pictures and can guide you through the process if you want to drop me a note. If you have good soldering skills it's pretty straightforward. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 12:51 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: hi all! since the fan has become intermittent and the temp control a little bit wonky, i took the ACC push-button unit out of my W123 to see if i could re-solder the connections and anything else it might need. i've got the unit out, but before i start trying to take it apart i wanted to inquire as to whether anyone here might know of a good write-up on how to open the unit up; i'd appreciate any experience that might be shared by those who've gone before me on this task. cheers! e '85 300D (Calif version) 220K+ miles. (100K+ on B99 BioDiesel) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Were ya sober? Gerry From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get back to me on that. I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more intimidating. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Sounds good to me, but or some place better? Where could be better than GA? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car parts for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post on their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy. We then become the corporate poster children for their parts. Some of us will become media celebs... As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they tell us what's new and we tell em what works. Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with or without scantily clad girls. from pristine cars to working Rusty but Trusty cars. The message is buy our parts and save money by not having outrageous car payments. be a 'merkin rugged individual (angry fatmen not allowed. Offer void outside the continental USA. (the usual disclaimers)) So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and drinking? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5652 - Release Date: 03/06/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams
Radio Shack initially sold it under the Deoxit label. Then DeOxit disappeared and the Radio Shack brand appeared. The current stuff may still be DeOxit. It seems to work as well but I still use DeOxit on the Mercedes. Someone suggested using DeOxit and flipping a switch fifty times. I tried that on the right side mirror switch in the '83 300D and it fixed it. Many thanks to whoever suggested it. Gerry From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com Apparently you've missed out when Jim Cathey has been singing its praises. I have too. Usually available at Radio Shack, expensive but its the very best there is. When my little supply runs low I'll order the better stuff from Amazon. -Curt Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 21:03:22 -0700 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams Message-ID: 20130306210322.6ee490e172249fce772a5...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:01:19 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: The real-deal stuff that Marshall used to promote. Www.Caig.com It comes in a variety of formulas, I think I have the D5. I see. Getting it here before the weekend would be the problem. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5652 - Release Date: 03/06/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Brake Rotor Question
Mercedes actually manufactures their brake rotors. Balo is the closest to OE there is. Zimmerman are good. ATE is total aftermarket. On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Since we are talking about various parts brands, I would be curious to know what the differences are, if any, between the suppliers for brake rotors and related parts. The names I know and see are Balo, ATE, and Brembo. I believe that both ATE and Balo are OEM suppliers, correct? Are they effectively the same for the average user? Any reason one would be a better choice over the other? Zimmerman also comes up, but not being familiar with them and seeing that they are at the lower end of the price range, I dismissed them as a possibility. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. 1-800-741-5252 buymbpa...@gmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Yes. Had just pulled into town from Alabama so we could visit a friend on the way back home. Was one heck of a trip, maybe I will write it all down one day before I forget. What was I gonna write? Mike On Mar 7, 2013 1:24 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Were ya sober? Gerry From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get back to me on that. I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more intimidating. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Sounds good to me, but or some place better? Where could be better than GA? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car parts for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post on their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy. We then become the corporate poster children for their parts. Some of us will become media celebs... As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they tell us what's new and we tell em what works. Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with or without scantily clad girls. from pristine cars to working Rusty but Trusty cars. The message is buy our parts and save money by not having outrageous car payments. be a 'merkin rugged individual (angry fatmen not allowed. Offer void outside the continental USA. (the usual disclaimers)) So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and drinking? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5652 - Release Date: 03/06/13 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
No the specific brands which used to be German are now coming from china Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: That doesn't sound like great customer service to me. If I order a specific brand, I expect that to arrive in my package. That's a failure of customer service called bait'n'switch. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) On 3/6/2013 7:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Let me clarify my post about Autohauz, you do need to watch what you are ordering there and try to steer clear of the cheap china parts, even ordering OEM parts from OEM brands when it arrives it turns out to be made in China. On 3/6/2013 6:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: A search on the internet for Trent Fiorini brings up a guy in IL who works for a flooring business, along with other members of his family. Is this our man? I wouldn't think so, as a well run local floor business could do much better than a single guy trying to sell car parts on the internet. With big guys like autohausaz out there cornering the market with cheap chinese parts, it seems like a very bad time to get into the parts business as a new guy. This is just my opinion, of course. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes
You have not been up there 4 years have you? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Probably notI've seen more than one person with outta state tags that have lived here longer than my 4 years. I'd rather not chance it though... Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) On 3/6/2013 7:40 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Mar 6, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: why the heck didnt you register your vehicles in AR? Because after six months or so of seeing his vehicles every day around Forest Park, the local constable would've been up his rear farther than a proctological exam. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ML320 reset engine codes
3.5 right now, 4 in August. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) On 3/7/2013 1:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: You have not been up there 4 years have you? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Probably notI've seen more than one person with outta state tags that have lived here longer than my 4 years. I'd rather not chance it though... Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (162,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
Max asked 'Anybody know anything about old Fiats?' FIAT = Fix It Again, Tony ... Howard Bath England '97 200E 5-speed manual, 108256 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
Forwarded on behalf of Rich... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Original Message From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013 To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Subject: Fwd: you're advises please Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls? I have tried sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason (spam filter?). Would like to see if it gets through from you. --R Original Message Subject:you're advises please Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the question some time ago in other contexts. The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable transportation starting in the summer. He had issues with the 300SD, nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older car. When he started school he brought it here. While the car is in decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night). This will mostly be an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I need to figure this out. Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs): 1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2 yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over. 2) New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 2 yr when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide what to do after 3 yr (or whatever term). Up-front cost on a lease might be a bit more than a buy? 3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something, maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that might arise. Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but probably still pretty good. Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit lower. Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though. My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability so he can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car issues. I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to that burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations. I recall my wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the cold doing repairs on the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get where she was going at 5AM after getting home at 9PM. I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. I see these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC for a 28yo driver). A used one would probably be a bit less, but up front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering... Please provide you're advises! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] No MBZ content here...
...but any of the Gullwings could have been here, especially the C111 sports car prototype. http://tinybytes.me/misc/the-sexiest-sports-cars ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
Yeah, I know, actually two family friends have owned theses cars in the past and complained about the reliability, and they both bought them new. Glad to hear from someone across the pond! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Howard Fulford h.fulf...@lineone.net wrote: Max asked 'Anybody know anything about old Fiats?' FIAT = Fix It Again, Tony ... Howard Bath England '97 200E 5-speed manual, 108256 miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
Start a new gmail account? ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Forwarded on behalf of Rich... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone? Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
As I think I have suggested previously, a used low mileage Focus would be an excellent choice for a commuter vehicle in the areas of cost, economy and reliability. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Forwarded on behalf of Rich... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Original Message From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013 To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Subject: Fwd: you're advises please Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls? I have tried sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason (spam filter?). Would like to see if it gets through from you. --R Original Message Subject:you're advises please Date:Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500 From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the question some time ago in other contexts. The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable transportation starting in the summer. He had issues with the 300SD, nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older car. When he started school he brought it here. While the car is in decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night). This will mostly be an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I need to figure this out. Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs): 1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2 yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over. 2) New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 2 yr when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide what to do after 3 yr (or whatever term). Up-front cost on a lease might be a bit more than a buy? 3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something, maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that might arise. Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but probably still pretty good. Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit lower. Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though. My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability so he can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car issues. I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to that burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations. I recall my wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the cold doing repairs on the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get where she was going at 5AM after getting home at 9PM. I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. I see these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC for a 28yo driver). A used one would probably be a bit less, but up front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering... Please provide you're advises! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
1975 Fiat Spider (convertible). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone? Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
Wow, the only worse Italian car I can think of would be a Fiat 124 Sport coupe, although I am sure there are others One of my buddies had one of these (Spider convertible) when we were in tech school. Despite having a complete campus full of automotive diagnostic and repair resources literally at our fingertips, this car was still a nightmare to keep running. But it was fun to drive! Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 1975 Fiat Spider (convertible). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone? Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
See if this reply works. Yes I recall that suggestion, and I have been looking on CL but Foci are few. I could take a cruise around some lots at some point I suppose. Probably more likely to find them there, esp if off-leasers or trade-ins or something like that. --R On 3/7/13 4:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: As I think I have suggested previously, a used low mileage Focus would be an excellent choice for a commuter vehicle in the areas of cost, economy and reliability. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Forwarded on behalf of Rich... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Original Message From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013 To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Subject: Fwd: you're advises please Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls? I have tried sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason (spam filter?). Would like to see if it gets through from you. --R Original Message Subject:you're advises please Date:Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500 From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the question some time ago in other contexts. The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable transportation starting in the summer. He had issues with the 300SD, nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older car. When he started school he brought it here. While the car is in decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night). This will mostly be an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I need to figure this out. Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs): 1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2 yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over. 2) New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 2 yr when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide what to do after 3 yr (or whatever term). Up-front cost on a lease might be a bit more than a buy? 3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something, maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that might arise. Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but probably still pretty good. Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit lower. Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though. My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability so he can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car issues. I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to that burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations. I recall my wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the cold doing repairs on the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get where she was going at 5AM after getting home at 9PM. I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. I see these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC for a 28yo driver). A used one would probably be a bit less, but up front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering... Please provide you're advises! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
My first thought is a Focus, but I've not considered ne in detail. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please Forwarded on behalf of Rich... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Original Message From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013 To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Subject: Fwd: you're advises please Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls? I have tried sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason (spam filter?). Would like to see if it gets through from you. --R Original Message Subject: you're advises please Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the question some time ago in other contexts. The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable transportation starting in the summer. He had issues with the 300SD, nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older car. When he started school he brought it here. While the car is in decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night). This will mostly be an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I need to figure this out. Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs): 1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2 yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over. 2) New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 2 yr when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide what to do after 3 yr (or whatever term). Up-front cost on a lease might be a bit more than a buy? 3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something, maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that might arise. Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but probably still pretty good. Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit lower. Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though. My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability so he can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car issues. I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to that burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations. I recall my wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the cold doing repairs on the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get where she was going at 5AM after getting home at 9PM. I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. I see these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC for a 28yo driver). A used one would probably be a bit less, but up front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering... Please provide you're advises! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
How 'bout a new Focus not loaded down with lotsa unnecessary, expensive crap? Make sure it has AC, though ('guess that has become fairly basic by now, eh?). Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please See if this reply works. Yes I recall that suggestion, and I have been looking on CL but Foci are few. I could take a cruise around some lots at some point I suppose. Probably more likely to find them there, esp if off-leasers or trade-ins or something like that. --R On 3/7/13 4:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: As I think I have suggested previously, a used low mileage Focus would be an excellent choice for a commuter vehicle in the areas of cost, economy and reliability. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Forwarded on behalf of Rich... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Original Message From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013 To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Subject: Fwd: you're advises please Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls? I have tried sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason (spam filter?). Would like to see if it gets through from you. --R Original Message Subject:you're advises please Date:Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500 From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the question some time ago in other contexts. The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable transportation starting in the summer. He had issues with the 300SD, nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older car. When he started school he brought it here. While the car is in decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night). This will mostly be an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I need to figure this out. Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs): 1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2 yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over. 2) New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 2 yr when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide what to do after 3 yr (or whatever term). Up-front cost on a lease might be a bit more than a buy? 3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something, maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that might arise. Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but probably still pretty good. Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit lower. Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though. My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability so he can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car issues. I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to that burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations. I recall my wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the cold doing repairs on the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get where she was going at 5AM after getting home at 9PM. I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. I see these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC for a 28yo driver). A used one would probably be a bit less, but up front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering... Please provide you're advises! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To
[MBZ] 87 300TD
Max, what's the latest with your 300TD? You had a head prob; is that solved; is it running, etc.? Is the E300's cooing sys (cabin) OK? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
Yes that would be #1 or #2. --R On 3/7/13 5:04 PM, WILTON wrote: How 'bout a new Focus not loaded down with lotsa unnecessary, expensive crap? Make sure it has AC, though ('guess that has become fairly basic by now, eh?). Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please See if this reply works. Yes I recall that suggestion, and I have been looking on CL but Foci are few. I could take a cruise around some lots at some point I suppose. Probably more likely to find them there, esp if off-leasers or trade-ins or something like that. --R On 3/7/13 4:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: As I think I have suggested previously, a used low mileage Focus would be an excellent choice for a commuter vehicle in the areas of cost, economy and reliability. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Forwarded on behalf of Rich... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Original Message From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013 To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Subject: Fwd: you're advises please Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls? I have tried sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason (spam filter?). Would like to see if it gets through from you. --R Original Message Subject:you're advises please Date:Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500 From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the question some time ago in other contexts. The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable transportation starting in the summer. He had issues with the 300SD, nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older car. When he started school he brought it here. While the car is in decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night). This will mostly be an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I need to figure this out. Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs): 1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2 yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over. 2) New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 2 yr when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide what to do after 3 yr (or whatever term). Up-front cost on a lease might be a bit more than a buy? 3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something, maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that might arise. Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but probably still pretty good. Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit lower. Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though. My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability so he can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car issues. I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to that burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations. I recall my wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the cold doing repairs on the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get where she was going at 5AM after getting home at 9PM. I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. I see these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC for a 28yo driver). A used one would probably be a bit less, but up front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering... Please provide you're advises! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
I would not advise a lease. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yes that would be #1 or #2. --R On 3/7/13 5:04 PM, WILTON wrote: How 'bout a new Focus not loaded down with lotsa unnecessary, expensive crap? Make sure it has AC, though ('guess that has become fairly basic by now, eh?). Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please See if this reply works. Yes I recall that suggestion, and I have been looking on CL but Foci are few. I could take a cruise around some lots at some point I suppose. Probably more likely to find them there, esp if off-leasers or trade-ins or something like that. --R On 3/7/13 4:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: As I think I have suggested previously, a used low mileage Focus would be an excellent choice for a commuter vehicle in the areas of cost, economy and reliability. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Forwarded on behalf of Rich... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Original Message From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013 To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Subject: Fwd: you're advises please Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls? I have tried sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason (spam filter?). Would like to see if it gets through from you. --R Original Message Subject:you're advises please Date:Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500 From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the question some time ago in other contexts. The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable transportation starting in the summer. He had issues with the 300SD, nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older car. When he started school he brought it here. While the car is in decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night). This will mostly be an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I need to figure this out. Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs): 1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2 yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over. 2) New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 2 yr when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide what to do after 3 yr (or whatever term). Up-front cost on a lease might be a bit more than a buy? 3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something, maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that might arise. Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but probably still pretty good. Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit lower. Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though. My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability so he can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car issues. I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to that burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations. I recall my wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the cold doing repairs on the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get where she was going at 5AM after getting home at 9PM. I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. I see these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC for a 28yo driver). A used one would probably be a bit less, but up front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering... Please provide you're advises! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
[MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification
Anyone ever try this? http://www.k6jrf.com/MB_vfc.html I see that it's originally from Stu, meaning that it must be relatively safe. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
I don't think so, either. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please I would not advise a lease. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Yes that would be #1 or #2. --R On 3/7/13 5:04 PM, WILTON wrote: How 'bout a new Focus not loaded down with lotsa unnecessary, expensive crap? Make sure it has AC, though ('guess that has become fairly basic by now, eh?). Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please See if this reply works. Yes I recall that suggestion, and I have been looking on CL but Foci are few. I could take a cruise around some lots at some point I suppose. Probably more likely to find them there, esp if off-leasers or trade-ins or something like that. --R On 3/7/13 4:34 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: As I think I have suggested previously, a used low mileage Focus would be an excellent choice for a commuter vehicle in the areas of cost, economy and reliability. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Forwarded on behalf of Rich... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Original Message From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Sent: Thu Mar 07 14:59:05 EST 2013 To: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net Subject: Fwd: you're advises please Max -- could you try to forward this to the Benz list pls? I have tried sending it various ways and it must be getting blocked for some reason (spam filter?). Would like to see if it gets through from you. --R Original Message Subject:you're advises please Date:Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:41 -0500 From:Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To:Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com So I have been thinking about this situation for awhile, and posed the question some time ago in other contexts. The boy, soon to finish 2nd yr of med school, needs reliable transportation starting in the summer. He had issues with the 300SD, nothing significant, but random problems as one expects from an older car. When he started school he brought it here. While the car is in decent shape he will really not have the time or inclination to deal with issues arising in a 29yo car, and will need to get where he is assigned (hospital training sessions) with minimal drama, likely all hours of day and night at fairly random times, in DC (DC is not the safest city, esp certain neighborhoods at night). This will mostly be an in-town runabout, I guess with some road trips now and then. So I need to figure this out. Choices I have considered are (trying to minimize up-front costs): 1) New car, something basic/cheap, take a loan with low payments, in 2 yr when he is a resident and making a few $$ he could take it over. 2) New car lease, something basic/cheap with low payments, then in 2 yr when he is resident making some $$ take over payments, then decide what to do after 3 yr (or whatever term). Up-front cost on a lease might be a bit more than a buy? 3) Something used, maybe off lease like 3yo from Carmax or something, maybe with warranty balance or something to deal with any issues that might arise. Reliability would be somewhat less than new, but probably still pretty good. Loan v. buy is an issue. Taxes, ins probably a bit lower. Used cars seem fairly pricey these days though. My interest (aside from the minimizing costs) would be reliability so he can focus on his studies and getting done without the worry of car issues. I guess that is just being a dad... but I know he is working like 80 hr a week on his studies and I really don't want to add to that burden with worries about being able to meet his obligations. I recall my wife in the same situation, and me out at night in the cold doing repairs on the POS Cherokee so she would be able to get where she was going at 5AM after getting home at 9PM. I am sorta leaning to #1, one of the small, cheap Fords or ricers. I see these things in the paper new for like $16k give or take, and payments pretty low ($300/mo, gotta add in the cost of doing business in DC for a 28yo driver). A used one would probably be a bit less, but up front/monthly cost might not be that much different, considering... Please provide you're advises! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
If you decide to go new you could save a little money with a Fiesta. I was well pleased with the one I had last week. 35mpg as I absolutely thrashed it in LA traffic. Would certainly do better driven moderately in a less hilly area. Big enough, comfortable enough, more than enough power. On the way back to the airport I found myself doing 80mph without realizing it, the engine didn't seem buzzy or concerned with the speed at all. -Curt Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 18:04:22 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please Message-ID: 51391cf6.4030...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yes that would be #1 or #2. --R On 3/7/13 5:04 PM, WILTON wrote: How 'bout a new Focus not loaded down with lotsa unnecessary, expensive crap? Make sure it has AC, though ('guess that has become fairly basic by now, eh?). Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] repair climate control unit
here's a link http://w123maintenance.blogspot.com/2007/10/automatic-climate-control-unit-repair.html thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification
Looks easy enough. Two methods are discussed, adding a bolt and shortening the pin. You could undo the bolt, and if you had a spare pin you could restore the original, so neither modification needs to be permanent. On my '95 E300, I refilled the clutch with oil, that worked for me. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Anyone ever try this? http://www.k6jrf.com/MB_vfc.html I see that it's originally from Stu, meaning that it must be relatively safe. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification
I may look into this next week, as I am off for the week for spring break. I don't like the pin modification, as it is permanent and the fan clutch is a rather pricey part. I figured I would check on the fluid as well. Can you expound on this some more? I seem to recall some discussion about fan clutches and checking/adding fluid, but don't recall the details. Thanks, Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Looks easy enough. Two methods are discussed, adding a bolt and shortening the pin. You could undo the bolt, and if you had a spare pin you could restore the original, so neither modification needs to be permanent. On my '95 E300, I refilled the clutch with oil, that worked for me. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Anyone ever try this? http://www.k6jrf.com/MB_vfc.html I see that it's originally from Stu, meaning that it must be relatively safe. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Spraying W124 multi-function switch
I went to Radio Shack today (yes, Los Alamos actually has one :-) ) and got a bottle of their Precision Electronics Cleaner. They had bottles of spray lubricant for $6.xx, bottles of spray cleaner/lubricant for $9.xx, and bottles of cleaner for $13.xx. The bottles of cleaner were larger than the bottles of lubricant and cleaner/lubricant. Anyway, I went out to the car and looked where to spray it, but I could not see any possible opening into which to insert the spray tube. So, where do I spray it? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] repair climate control unit
Very nice. Well illustrated and has a good example, albeit an extreme one, of the solder joints that need to be reflowed. I'll give this my blessing and defer to it unless someone wants my pictures as well. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:02 PM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: here's a link http://w123maintenance.blogspot.com/2007/10/automatic-climate-control-unit-repair.html thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Door Seat Switches - was 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams
This spray (Radio Shack contact cleaner) also does wonders for malfunctioning seat-adjuster switches in the doors of 126 models. I was really dreading replacing one of those until Marshall said to just shoot some of that spray in there and wiggle the switch. No disassembly except removing the seat-shaped knobs. Worked like a charm. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1995 W124 E320 Headlight High Beams Radio shack sells a similar spray, I've used that also. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 23:01:19 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: The real-deal stuff that Marshall used to promote. Www.Caig.com It comes in a variety of formulas, I think I have the D5. I see. Getting it here before the weekend would be the problem. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
I only drove it a couple hundred miles and parked it. Sometimes the upper radiator hose would stay pressurized after the engine cooled, so I'm suspicious that either the head is bad, the gasket is bad, or I didn't properly torque the head bolts. I'd love to borrow that fancy torque wrench that Rolf used, and re-torque my head bolts. I'm also concerned about a problem with one of the hydraulic lifters. You may recall that I had to bleed one down to get full valve closure for one valve. When I fixed that, I discovered that the bore for the intake valve lifter for the number six cylinder has a problem. The bottom half of the bore is too big, looks like it was eroded away. The lifter can get cocked in the bore, making it very hard to remove. At first I thought that some grit must have contaminated that bore during my work, and wore out the bottom half. After talking with a machinist, he explained that is not possible. If grit had contaminated the bore, it would have scored all of the bore equally, not just the lower half, and the scoring would look nothing like erosion. He thinks it is a casting flaw, and had probably been there from the factory. I'm worried that eventually the lifter will get cocked so bad it will break the camshaft. So I'm going to dive in again soon, work has finally slowed a little so I'm not traveling every week, but I'm not too happy about pulling the head off again. I really wish there was an oversize repair lifter, do I could machine out the bore to restore it and keep this head. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Max, what's the latest with your 300TD? You had a head prob; is that solved; is it running, etc.? Is the E300's cooing sys (cabin) OK? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
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Re: [MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification
If you remove the bi-metallic strip and the pin, you can add oil through the hole the pin came from. I used 3000 cps viscosity silicone oil, got a really small bottle at a hobby store. They sell it for remote controlled car differentials. I think the cost was $10 or so. I found the best way to introduce the thick oil into the small hole was to heat the clutch assembly with a heat gun, then allow the oil to be drawn in as the fan cooled. Someone posted on the Web somewhere the fill capacity; if you exceed that and overfill, the fan may be locked on even when cold. You can test the fill level on the bench if you clamp the clutch in a vice and test how hard the rotation is when heated with the heat gun versus when cold. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I may look into this next week, as I am off for the week for spring break. I don't like the pin modification, as it is permanent and the fan clutch is a rather pricey part. I figured I would check on the fluid as well. Can you expound on this some more? I seem to recall some discussion about fan clutches and checking/adding fluid, but don't recall the details. Thanks, Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Looks easy enough. Two methods are discussed, adding a bolt and shortening the pin. You could undo the bolt, and if you had a spare pin you could restore the original, so neither modification needs to be permanent. On my '95 E300, I refilled the clutch with oil, that worked for me. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Anyone ever try this? http://www.k6jrf.com/MB_vfc.html I see that it's originally from Stu, meaning that it must be relatively safe. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spraying W124 multi-function switch
From fuzzy memory: At the base of the stalk is a rubber cover. Pull that up, the contacts you want to clean are in there. OR you may need to take apart the steering column cover enough to expose the base of the stalk. If you think about it, when you push or pull on the stalk, it must rotate on an axle near the base, so the contacts are near where that movement occurs. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: I went to Radio Shack today (yes, Los Alamos actually has one :-) ) and got a bottle of their Precision Electronics Cleaner. They had bottles of spray lubricant for $6.xx, bottles of spray cleaner/lubricant for $9.xx, and bottles of cleaner for $13.xx. The bottles of cleaner were larger than the bottles of lubricant and cleaner/lubricant. Anyway, I went out to the car and looked where to spray it, but I could not see any possible opening into which to insert the spray tube. So, where do I spray it? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
Thanks Dan. Wow, not one positive comment. I guess that an R107 is probably in my future, if we add a convertible to the fleet. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Wow, the only worse Italian car I can think of would be a Fiat 124 Sport coupe, although I am sure there are others One of my buddies had one of these (Spider convertible) when we were in tech school. Despite having a complete campus full of automotive diagnostic and repair resources literally at our fingertips, this car was still a nightmare to keep running. But it was fun to drive! Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 1975 Fiat Spider (convertible). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone? Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please
For years I've heard that Fiestas get high mpg. Was yours a 2012? Was it four cylinders and stickshift? Thanks, Gerry.who is thinking about getting a high mpg gasser but is leery of the Toyos. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com If you decide to go new you could save a little money with a Fiesta. I was well pleased with the one I had last week. 35mpg as I absolutely thrashed it in LA traffic. Would certainly do better driven moderately in a less hilly area. Big enough, comfortable enough, more than enough power. On the way back to the airport I found myself doing 80mph without realizing it, the engine didn't seem buzzy or concerned with the speed at all. -Curt Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 18:04:22 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: you're advises please Message-ID: 51391cf6.4030...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yes that would be #1 or #2. --R On 3/7/13 5:04 PM, WILTON wrote: How 'bout a new Focus not loaded down with lotsa unnecessary, expensive crap? Make sure it has AC, though ('guess that has become fairly basic by now, eh?). Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5654 - Release Date: 03/07/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300TD
You should only need a torque wrench for the first step of head bolt tightening, to 35 ft/lbs. After that it's a 90 degree turn, wait 10 min, do another 90 degrees. If you attempt to use a torque wrench for final tightening, you will either break the bolts or leave it too loose, depending on what you try to use for a torque. These are stretch bolts, and do NOT have a defined final torque. Not only that, buy my friend Hans strongly recommends tossing them any time you take the head off and put brand new ones in. It's fine to reuse them on the gassers if they aren't stretched too much, but he's never had a head seal properly for long if you re-use the diesel ones. Much cheaper than a new head gasket set. Can't help you on the lifter bore, you might want to take it too a good head shop and see if they can sleeve it for you. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
You could pretty much say this about any Italian car, for that matter, so don't be disheartened. Do you already have the car? If so, the heck with what people say! Drive and enjoy it as long as it will run. If not, hold out for something a bit more reliable. And yeah, I worked on X1/9s, too. OMG, what a nightmare if you had to do any sort of engine work. My BIL at that the time had a 124 Sport Coupe, which a high school friend's dad worked on almost weekly (he was an independent mechanic). We joked about the car putting my friend through college, which it did contrite to substantially. Later the BIL bought an X1/9 as soon as they came out. I took the covers off and had a look at it. I immediately informed him that I would not be working on the car. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Thanks Dan. Wow, not one positive comment. I guess that an R107 is probably in my future, if we add a convertible to the fleet. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Wow, the only worse Italian car I can think of would be a Fiat 124 Sport coupe, although I am sure there are others One of my buddies had one of these (Spider convertible) when we were in tech school. Despite having a complete campus full of automotive diagnostic and repair resources literally at our fingertips, this car was still a nightmare to keep running. But it was fun to drive! Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 1975 Fiat Spider (convertible). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone? Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] In mourning
Yep. Looks good. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning Last time I was in NC I had the 83 300d. Everyone looks at that car so it's hard to tell. Here is a pic to see why. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 10:56 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Have you tried Raleigh/Durham/RTP area of NC? NY plates oughta feel right at home there. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning Wilton, You are spot on! NY tags suck. The insurance is overpriced, registration fees are terrible and inspections for newer cars are getting worse. Not to mention every time you go to a Southern state other than Florida folks look at you like some sort of city folk that is about to rob something. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 10:42 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Maybe I've been lucky to have never had NY tags. ;) (I'm kidding, I'm kidding!) Point taken. Wilton - Original Message - From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning Visit downtown Valdosta at about 2am with NY tags on a 4wd Subaru then get back to me on that. I am not sure if the locals or the cops were more intimidating. Mike On Mar 7, 2013 10:25 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Sounds good to me, but or some place better? Where could be better than GA? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] In mourning My vote is that Q will lobby the new employer to be our corporate sponsor, and as such, the corp. sponsor will provide us with free car parts for us to review and then provide how to writeups which they can post on their website after our group does peer reviews to insure accuracy. We then become the corporate poster children for their parts. Some of us will become media celebs... As part of this program, the Corp Sponsor will fly us all to GA (or someplace better) once a year for Q and an annual meeting where they tell us what's new and we tell em what works. Their calendar will have 12-14 pictures of our cars in high res., with or without scantily clad girls. from pristine cars to working Rusty but Trusty cars. The message is buy our parts and save money by not having outrageous car payments. be a 'merkin rugged individual (angry fatmen not allowed. Offer void outside the continental USA. (the usual disclaimers)) So now you can afford a much bigger/better Rusty-Q, and have it hosted at a garage with lifts so we can tinker with cars while eating and drinking? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/** archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/**listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.* *comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.**com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/** archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/**listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.** comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.**okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_** okiebenz.comhttp://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification
That silicone oil was hard enough to get into the differential of my RC truck, but I think I used 10,000 CPS. I have a bottle of 50,000, and it's nearly Solid! I think it's available in 100,000 and 500,000 viscosities which would nearly lock up the gears. The toughest part was not to get it onto anything including clothing since it's so hard to get off! Kevin in LaPorte, CO, no Mercedes Diesels, but I have 6 RC trucks plus my latest addition, the new Traxxas 1:10 scale 4wd Rally Race car, one fun little machine! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification
Ahhh, so the pin comes out, allowing you to fill through the hole it is located in. Got it. I'm not terribly keen about modifying the bimetallic strip, no matter what Stu says, despite wanting to do everything I can to keep the temps down. I will probably just try and fill it as much as I can and live with that - worst case scenario would be that the fan is on when it's cooler, which isn't a big deal. I am planning on doing the resistor addition to the aux fan circuit as well. That should help with under hood temps, too. No problems with cooling, just wanting to get ahead of the seasons down here so it runs as cool as possible, that's all. Going to the stealership tomorrow to pick up a couple of gallons of the new blue coolant. Found my former parts guy is still there and willing to sell to me at very good prices. A gallon of coolant lists for $31, my price is $23. Nice. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Max Dillon wrote: If you remove the bi-metallic strip and the pin, you can add oil through the hole the pin came from. I used 3000 cps viscosity silicone oil, got a really small bottle at a hobby store. They sell it for remote controlled car differentials. I think the cost was $10 or so. I found the best way to introduce the thick oil into the small hole was to heat the clutch assembly with a heat gun, then allow the oil to be drawn in as the fan cooled. Someone posted on the Web somewhere the fill capacity; if you exceed that and overfill, the fan may be locked on even when cold. You can test the fill level on the bench if you clamp the clutch in a vice and test how hard the rotation is when heated with the heat gun versus when cold. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I may look into this next week, as I am off for the week for spring break. I don't like the pin modification, as it is permanent and the fan clutch is a rather pricey part. I figured I would check on the fluid as well. Can you expound on this some more? I seem to recall some discussion about fan clutches and checking/adding fluid, but don't recall the details. Thanks, Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Looks easy enough. Two methods are discussed, adding a bolt and shortening the pin. You could undo the bolt, and if you had a spare pin you could restore the original, so neither modification needs to be permanent. On my '95 E300, I refilled the clutch with oil, that worked for me. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Anyone ever try this? http://www.k6jrf.com/MB_vfc.html I see that it's originally from Stu, meaning that it must be relatively safe. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fan Clutch Modification
Two points on the fan clutch -- first, the fluid leaked out originally, it's very very unlikely the new fluid won't. You should buy a goodly supply, as you will be doing this again pretty soon unless you take it all apart and replace the seals, which is what's wrong with it. Second, clean your AC condenser and radiator. Lotta crap in there even though it looks clean. I replaced the condenser on my TE last fall, it was punctured. Looked pretty clean, just a bit dusty (I live next to farm fields,eh?). Ha, held it up the the light and it's almost completely occluded. Engine temp dropped quite a bit with the new condenser, even with the AC on. Get some evaporator cleaner and clean it, should help quite a bit with lowering operating temps. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
Yugos were Fiats. Gerry From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com You could pretty much say this about any Italian car, for that matter, so don't be disheartened. Do you already have the car? If so, the heck with what people say! Drive and enjoy it as long as it will run. If not, hold out for something a bit more reliable. And yeah, I worked on X1/9s, too. OMG, what a nightmare if you had to do any sort of engine work. My BIL at that the time had a 124 Sport Coupe, which a high school friend's dad worked on almost weekly (he was an independent mechanic). We joked about the car putting my friend through college, which it did contrite to substantially. Later the BIL bought an X1/9 as soon as they came out. I took the covers off and had a look at it. I immediately informed him that I would not be working on the car. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Thanks Dan. Wow, not one positive comment. I guess that an R107 is probably in my future, if we add a convertible to the fleet. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Wow, the only worse Italian car I can think of would be a Fiat 124 Sport coupe, although I am sure there are others One of my buddies had one of these (Spider convertible) when we were in tech school. Despite having a complete campus full of automotive diagnostic and repair resources literally at our fingertips, this car was still a nightmare to keep running. But it was fun to drive! Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 1975 Fiat Spider (convertible). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone? Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2240 / Virus Database: 2641/5654 - Release Date: 03/07/13 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Italian car
Haven't bought the car, don't intend to now. I'm sure it would be a blast to drive, but I really don't need a high-maintenance un-reliable car, no matter how fun or pretty. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: You could pretty much say this about any Italian car, for that matter, so don't be disheartened. Do you already have the car? If so, the heck with what people say! Drive and enjoy it as long as it will run. If not, hold out for something a bit more reliable. And yeah, I worked on X1/9s, too. OMG, what a nightmare if you had to do any sort of engine work. My BIL at that the time had a 124 Sport Coupe, which a high school friend's dad worked on almost weekly (he was an independent mechanic). We joked about the car putting my friend through college, which it did contrite to substantially. Later the BIL bought an X1/9 as soon as they came out. I took the covers off and had a look at it. I immediately informed him that I would not be working on the car. Dan On Mar 7, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Thanks Dan. Wow, not one positive comment. I guess that an R107 is probably in my future, if we add a convertible to the fleet. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Wow, the only worse Italian car I can think of would be a Fiat 124 Sport coupe, although I am sure there are others One of my buddies had one of these (Spider convertible) when we were in tech school. Despite having a complete campus full of automotive diagnostic and repair resources literally at our fingertips, this car was still a nightmare to keep running. But it was fun to drive! Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 7, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 1975 Fiat Spider (convertible). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: BTW, what are we talking about, now that the ad is gone? Was it a 124, an X1/9, or what? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com