Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener Resin

[MG]

changes calcium with sodium so you end up with salt in the water. 
 How bad that is depends on how hard your water is and how much 
salt you use on your food anyway as well as how much water you 
drink. In combination with a reverse osmosis filter for drinking 
which will take out the salt, it isn't too bad.


Manfred

Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:37:48 -0600
From: OK Don 

Doesn't  a water softener just replace one set of dissolved 
minerals for

another? Are they really good to use?

Sorry, I have no idea about yours--

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Water Softener Resin

[MG]

first thing to do is to find out if it works like it should. Look 
and see if there is water in the brine tank first. The amount of 
water depends on how hard your water is. No water then it's a 
control valve or timer problem or the hose between the valve and 
the brine tank. If there is water in there then you need to 
trigger the regeneration sequence and see if the whole sequence 
runs like it should. Backfush first then brine water sucked out 
of the salt tank and put into the softener. Then a long pause. 
then a fast and a slow flush and then the replacement of the 
water in the brine tank. if all that is working as it should then 
the problem might be your resin. If you have a high iron 
concentration you might try an iron cleaner to see if that will 
bring the resin back. If that doesn't work then new resin. If 
after you tried to start the regeneration sequence it just sits 
there and doesn't do anything other then backflush then you may 
have a timer out. If you try to start the regen sequence and the 
valve motor doesn't change the valve but the timer moves wheel to 
the different positions then the valve motor is bad or one of the 
little micro switches needs to be replaced.


That's if you have an electrically operated softener. If it's a 
Kinetico or other with a water powered valve system then there 
are other problems that I won't go into but you will probably 
have to get a Kinetico service guy to do the job as parts are 
probably not available.


Manfred


Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 19:03:15 -0600
From: Mountain Man 

Our water softener is not working well.
Perhaps new resin is needed?
Is that remove and replace or is there more?
Someone online mentioned probably not resin but control valve - does
anyone know this?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice

[Gerry Archer]

Especially after you've had a few.
Gerry

From: "WILTON" 
An askew or missing star makes for erratic, frustrating and unsafe 
driving - 'hard to concentrate on real driving, situational awareness, 
speed control, lane integrity, spacing, traffic conditions, etc.  'Could 
be worse than texting or talking on phone.  'Better park it 'til ya get 
that replaced. Wilton


- Original Message - 
From: "Craig" 

To: "mercedes" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:12 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice



While driving to church Sunday morning, I noticed that the hood star on
our 1982 240D/3.0 was crooked. When we got to church, I got out and tried
to straighten it. Eventhough it had snowed and was in the mid-20s, I did
not think of ice. When I tried to move it, the star broke off in my hand.

So, Kaleb, do you have a W123 hood star? If so, how much?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] dan gordon will be pleased to wear a crown

[G Mann]

Gawd mate.. that lady scrubs up nice.. I'm thinking to migrate to England
just so I can call her Queen, now that Charles and "That Woman" have passed
the crown.

Just for her.. I will forgo the sweat stain bush mud requirement.. Special
Royal Dispensation.. one time pass. Agreed?  All in favor raise your mugs.


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:

> Well that's not my hat, just an example of how it used to look.
> This sheila is still needing to wear her hat in, although she might have
> traded it in for something a bit more shiny http://bobtailstradingcompany.
> blogspot.com.au/2011/01/kate-middletons-aussie-style.html
>
> Hendrik
> who had the big hat on today
>
> On 27/11/13 01:34, G Mann wrote:
>
>> That poor hat in the link is so pristine it hardly looks worn. It has no
>> character. I would have to wear it at night or turn in my man card. No way
>> could I be seen in public with it on.  Show up at a roundup with that on
>> and every real wrangler would know you were a sissy city slicker dandy
>> boy.  Besides, you would have to stand for all the drinks for the real
>> cowboys.
>>
>> Required components for a "real " hat.  Sweat stain at the head band at
>> least 2 inches into the crown [sweat must be mixed with dirt as evidence
>> of
>> "realness"].  Stomp marks from more than one animal where you lost the hat
>> but not the fight to control it..  The oral provenance of a mixture of
>> sweat, more sweat, animal sweat, swamp mud, blood...[some animal, some
>> human, some your own] , smoke from camp fires and outdoor cooking smells.
>> This "man perfume" says you and the hat are one, have been for decades,
>> and
>> upon pain of death can not be separated. Extra points for a bullet hole or
>> two and a good story about how you threw the hat over a poisonous snake
>> then shot it while laying sleeping on the ground... near the open
>> campfire... before dawn... and saved the sheila...
>>
>> It's not a hat.. it's a bloody crown.. cause you are king of your
>> kingdom..
>> own it.. hahaha.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Hendrick's shed

[Hendrik and Fay]

Number 2 but not that tidy.

Hendrik
who needs to give the man cave a clean up, so I can make room for my 
home brew


On 27/11/13 13:36, OK Don wrote:

Which one of these is (or most closely resembles) Hendrick's shead???

http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2013/11/26/jasper_white_photographs_man_caves_in_rural_australia.html





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Re: [MBZ] dan gordon lifestyle week continues

[Gary Hurst]

it's not haphazard so much as i don't believe in it so much so i stopped
using it


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:45 PM,  wrote:

> Yes I get it. You've been criticized for your haphazard use of
> capitalization and punctuation. I attribute it to your stream of
> consciousness approach to writing!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> > i had no appreciation of allen ginsberg back in my youth, when i had
> > associates who were in the same sort of circle as he.  i could have been
> > buddies with ginsberg, but instead just found him a funny old man
> (although
> > not much older than i am now) saying stupid things i had contempt for.
> > such opportunities squandered for the sake of arrogance and ignorance,
> > while today i talk mostly to people online and the only real live ones i
> > talk to who are not immediate family are the superintendent and janitor
> of
> > my building .
> >
> > then in the mid eightees on the band's tour bus, i am snorting cocaine
> with
> > a large man, a musician in bonnie raitt's band it seems, when bonnie
> comes
> > on the bus, visibly upset over some stalker, i believe his name was
> > "jeff."  now given this situation, the best answer would be along the
> lines
> > of "well, you just sit down here, miss raitt, i'll make sure you have no
> > more trouble with this 'jeff' fellow tonight" i had to, in the best
> > tradition of "pull my finger", utter something along the lines of "geez,
> > man, your mom is really freaky deaky, wow" as i knew it would get a laugh
> > from this fellow and who can resist such a thing?
> >
> > i imagine most of you will find this post mad or at least unclear, but i
> > kinda think dmitri will get it, so here it is
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:36 PM,  wrote:
> >
> >> So you think you're a regular Allen Ginsberg;)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Nov 26, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
> >>
> >>> i road my rusty cruiser bike (lives outside on the intercoastal,
> chained
> >> to
> >>> a post) around in the rain wearing my akubra hat . stopped at the local
> >>> bike shop to see if he felt all the rust was a structural danger.  got
> >>> rained on heavily.  stopped at the russian market for real russian rye
> >>> bread.  got rained on some more.  chained it back up to the post.
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Re: [MBZ] dan gordon lifestyle week continues

[dseretakis]

Yes I get it. You've been criticized for your haphazard use of capitalization 
and punctuation. I attribute it to your stream of consciousness approach to 
writing!

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 26, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> i had no appreciation of allen ginsberg back in my youth, when i had
> associates who were in the same sort of circle as he.  i could have been
> buddies with ginsberg, but instead just found him a funny old man (although
> not much older than i am now) saying stupid things i had contempt for.
> such opportunities squandered for the sake of arrogance and ignorance,
> while today i talk mostly to people online and the only real live ones i
> talk to who are not immediate family are the superintendent and janitor of
> my building .
> 
> then in the mid eightees on the band's tour bus, i am snorting cocaine with
> a large man, a musician in bonnie raitt's band it seems, when bonnie comes
> on the bus, visibly upset over some stalker, i believe his name was
> "jeff."  now given this situation, the best answer would be along the lines
> of "well, you just sit down here, miss raitt, i'll make sure you have no
> more trouble with this 'jeff' fellow tonight" i had to, in the best
> tradition of "pull my finger", utter something along the lines of "geez,
> man, your mom is really freaky deaky, wow" as i knew it would get a laugh
> from this fellow and who can resist such a thing?
> 
> i imagine most of you will find this post mad or at least unclear, but i
> kinda think dmitri will get it, so here it is
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:36 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> So you think you're a regular Allen Ginsberg;)
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>> 
>>> i road my rusty cruiser bike (lives outside on the intercoastal, chained
>> to
>>> a post) around in the rain wearing my akubra hat . stopped at the local
>>> bike shop to see if he felt all the rust was a structural danger.  got
>>> rained on heavily.  stopped at the russian market for real russian rye
>>> bread.  got rained on some more.  chained it back up to the post.
>>> 
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[MBZ] OT - interesting health video

[Mountain Man]

Peter Attia: Is the obesity crisis hiding a bigger problem?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMhLBPPtlrY

mao

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[MBZ] OT - Hendrick's shed

[OK Don]

Which one of these is (or most closely resembles) Hendrick's shead???

http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2013/11/26/jasper_white_photographs_man_caves_in_rural_australia.html


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Re: [MBZ] S65 W140

[Hendrik and Fay]

I am getting a kind of feeling this thing could turn into the W140 all 
over again, great car to drive but spends an awful amount of time in the 
shop waiting for parts.

Wonder how much one suspension strut is for the magic carpet thingy?

Hendrik
who needs magic carpet ride, the roads are stuffed around here

On 26/11/13 13:21, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

With all the "flaws" this new "disposable" S class has, I wouldn't mind 
driving/owning one!





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Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars on Ice

[Hendrik and Fay]

No star on the sports machines only the limos, although that is changing 
these days.


Hendrik
whose star needs a polish, well the whole car needs a polish

On 27/11/13 13:22, OK Don wrote:

Or flying a fighter without a gun site - how are you going to aim the car
without the star???
Yes, the SLs and coupes don't have one, just the little disk on the hood. I
always thought that was wrong, but never got around to installing a star on
the SLC - though I did threaten to several times.

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:32 AM, WILTON  wrote:


Driving a Mercedes with an askew star may be like flying a B-47 with a
stuck-askew yaw string -
Wilton









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Re: [MBZ] dan gordon will be pleased to wear a crown

[Hendrik and Fay]

Well that's not my hat, just an example of how it used to look.
This sheila is still needing to wear her hat in, although she might have 
traded it in for something a bit more shiny 
http://bobtailstradingcompany.blogspot.com.au/2011/01/kate-middletons-aussie-style.html


Hendrik
who had the big hat on today

On 27/11/13 01:34, G Mann wrote:

That poor hat in the link is so pristine it hardly looks worn. It has no
character. I would have to wear it at night or turn in my man card. No way
could I be seen in public with it on.  Show up at a roundup with that on
and every real wrangler would know you were a sissy city slicker dandy
boy.  Besides, you would have to stand for all the drinks for the real
cowboys.

Required components for a "real " hat.  Sweat stain at the head band at
least 2 inches into the crown [sweat must be mixed with dirt as evidence of
"realness"].  Stomp marks from more than one animal where you lost the hat
but not the fight to control it..  The oral provenance of a mixture of
sweat, more sweat, animal sweat, swamp mud, blood...[some animal, some
human, some your own] , smoke from camp fires and outdoor cooking smells.
This "man perfume" says you and the hat are one, have been for decades, and
upon pain of death can not be separated. Extra points for a bullet hole or
two and a good story about how you threw the hat over a poisonous snake
then shot it while laying sleeping on the ground... near the open
campfire... before dawn... and saved the sheila...

It's not a hat.. it's a bloody crown.. cause you are king of your kingdom..
own it.. hahaha.




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Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice

[OK Don]

Or flying a fighter without a gun site - how are you going to aim the car
without the star???
Yes, the SLs and coupes don't have one, just the little disk on the hood. I
always thought that was wrong, but never got around to installing a star on
the SLC - though I did threaten to several times.

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:32 AM, WILTON  wrote:

> Driving a Mercedes with an askew star may be like flying a B-47 with a
> stuck-askew yaw string -
> Wilton
>
>
>



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Re: [MBZ] CAUTION - Testing Glow Plugs

[Fmiser]

> Larry wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion -- I'm not sire it will work on my 300D
> with the GPR under the dash. //But I'll read your commment and
> see if I can apply them to my 240D, Will save the directions for
> my 300D  although i have done the WSM tests on it successfully.
> Never hurts to have alternatives

Hold on a minute!

Is the car a W115 or a W123?  

What I'm really asking is, are the glowplugs series-type or
parallel-type?  The easiest way to tell which type is by looking at
the side of the engine.  Series plugs have zig-zag "toaster wire"
between each glow plug.  Parallel-type does not.

If you are referring to series style glow plugs, 

!  DO NOT CONNECT ONE TO A 12V BATTERY CHARGER OR BATTERY 

If you do, it will almost instantly burnout!  Each series glow plug
is only rated for a couple volts.  Testing with 12 V will destroy
them.

I don't have a good way to test series plugs - partly 'cause on the
only car I had that used them I rewired and installed parallel
plugs.

I suppose you could use a headlight as a current limiter and
measure the voltage drop across the glow plug...  

If I'm misunderstanding your comment about the glowplug relay being
under the dash and it really does have parallel glow plugs, then I
would just modify the test procedure I mentioned before.  If at all
possible/practical, use the ammeter between the glowplug supply and
individual glowplug wires.  If working under the dash is difficult,
or it's not practical to separate the glow plug leads to test them
one at a time, you could disconnect the wire at the glow plug and
test there.  This tests the plug - but not the rest of the system.

By the way, what is meant by "i have done the WSM tests"?

> > > Larry wrote:
> > >
> > > I was wondering - I'd like to test the GPs on my 240D - would
> > > it be acceptable to hook them 1 at a time to my battery
> > > charger?

> > Fmiser wrote:
> >
> > Yes - but all you will be able to tell is if it glows.  I think
> > it's a lot easier to test it still in the engine.
> >
> > I attached 12 AWG wire leads to an old automotive dash style
> > ammeter that reads -30 0 +30 Amps.
> >
> > To use it, I pop the top off of the glow relay and unplug the
> > connector for the glow plugs. There is a contact for each glow
> > plug in this connector.  I clip one meter lead to the fused
> > side of the big, screw-in fuse and then touch each glowplug
> > contact, one at a time. The socket has pin numbers molded into
> > it, and these numbers correspond to the cylinder number.
> >
> > This method tests the supply 12V, the wire, and the plug. When
> > cold, a good plug draws about 20A (Well, on my meter it point
> > to the mark for 20 amps. I have not calibrated or tested the
> > accuracy of that meter...) It will drop back to about 15A
> > after 8-10 seconds.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Insults

[Gary Hurst]

ah, if only my detractors had 1/10th as much style (or, possibly, any style
at all!), i'd probably like them


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:11 PM, David & Kristin Gilmore <
dandkgilm...@frontier.com> wrote:

>  Something for Gary and his critics.  (All in good fun.)
>
>  http:
>> //www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/index.html
>>
>
>
>  Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV
>
>
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> around reloading.
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Re: [MBZ] dan gordon lifestyle week continues

[Gary Hurst]

i had no appreciation of allen ginsberg back in my youth, when i had
associates who were in the same sort of circle as he.  i could have been
buddies with ginsberg, but instead just found him a funny old man (although
not much older than i am now) saying stupid things i had contempt for.
such opportunities squandered for the sake of arrogance and ignorance,
while today i talk mostly to people online and the only real live ones i
talk to who are not immediate family are the superintendent and janitor of
my building .

then in the mid eightees on the band's tour bus, i am snorting cocaine with
a large man, a musician in bonnie raitt's band it seems, when bonnie comes
on the bus, visibly upset over some stalker, i believe his name was
"jeff."  now given this situation, the best answer would be along the lines
of "well, you just sit down here, miss raitt, i'll make sure you have no
more trouble with this 'jeff' fellow tonight" i had to, in the best
tradition of "pull my finger", utter something along the lines of "geez,
man, your mom is really freaky deaky, wow" as i knew it would get a laugh
from this fellow and who can resist such a thing?

i imagine most of you will find this post mad or at least unclear, but i
kinda think dmitri will get it, so here it is


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:36 PM,  wrote:

> So you think you're a regular Allen Ginsberg;)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 26, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:
>
> > i road my rusty cruiser bike (lives outside on the intercoastal, chained
> to
> > a post) around in the rain wearing my akubra hat . stopped at the local
> > bike shop to see if he felt all the rust was a structural danger.  got
> > rained on heavily.  stopped at the russian market for real russian rye
> > bread.  got rained on some more.  chained it back up to the post.
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[MBZ] OT atrocity of the day

[Mitch Haley]

It's a white Chevy stretch limo:
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/4196094111.html

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Re: [MBZ] dan gordon lifestyle week continues

[Gary Hurst]

real brake is so different.  very dense.  very fiber.  can't just eat a lot
of it even if hungry


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Gary wrote:
> > stopped at the russian market for real russian rye
> > bread.
>
> mmm good!!
> we should find a recipe for russian rye.
> mao
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[MBZ] Adams-Farewll Automobile

[Scott Ritchey]

I can see why this car design never really made it.  

 

http://www.youtube.com/embed/Y0XbqHUAI-0?feature=player_detailpage 

 

These rotary engines were very common in aircraft back then but they seem
pretty weird to me.  They spewed exhaust and oil everywhere.  I'm told the
white scarf was needed to wipe your goggles.

 

 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: B-52 Mission

[Mountain Man]

Greg wrote:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/27/world/asia/us-flies-b-52s-into-chinas-expa
> nded-air-defense-zone.html?partner=rss

Someone else today was mentioning the places around the globe that
also look like powder kegs for conflict (Syria, Iran, NKorea...).
Let's hope that our peace president keeps all boots at home and lets
all areas smolder at will.  War is too ugly.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] dan gordon lifestyle week continues

[Mountain Man]

Gary wrote:
> stopped at the russian market for real russian rye
> bread.

mmm good!!
we should find a recipe for russian rye.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Insults

[Mountain Man]

David wrote:
> http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/index.html

Thou bootless dread-bolted blind-worm!

mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: B-52 Mission

[Scott Ritchey]

If you can't control it then you don't control it.

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Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 3:15 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] OT: B-52 Mission

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/27/world/asia/us-flies-b-52s-into-chinas-expa
nded-air-defense-zone.html?partner=rss

&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=2&

 

0r

 

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Re: [MBZ] dan gordon lifestyle week continues

[dseretakis]

So you think you're a regular Allen Ginsberg;)

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 26, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Gary Hurst  wrote:

> i road my rusty cruiser bike (lives outside on the intercoastal, chained to
> a post) around in the rain wearing my akubra hat . stopped at the local
> bike shop to see if he felt all the rust was a structural danger.  got
> rained on heavily.  stopped at the russian market for real russian rye
> bread.  got rained on some more.  chained it back up to the post.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Testing Glow Plugs

[Larry T]

Thanks for the suggestion -- I'm not sire it will work on my 300D with 
the GPR under the dash. //But I'll read your commment and see if I can 
apply them to my 240D, Will save the directions for my 300D  although i 
have done the WSM tests on it successfully.   Never hurts to have 
alternatives


Sorry about the odd formating -- (if it is coming through on your end.)

BTW,  If anyone is interested in learning about Amsoil let me know :-)

*Larry
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Oil Analysis Site - www.youroil.net*

On 11/23/2013 7:00 PM, Fmiser wrote:

Larry wrote:

I was wondering - I'd like to test the GPs on my 240D - would it
be acceptable to hook them 1 at a time to my battery charger?  I
read the archives about testing GPs and the point was made that a
GP might test good with a meter when cold -  but can fail when it
heats up - if I use my Battery charger won't I cover that
hot/cold problem?

Yes - but all you will be able to tell is if it glows.  I think
it's a lot easier to test it still in the engine.

I attached 12 AWG wire leads to an old automotive dash style
ammeter that reads -30 0 +30 Amps.

To use it, I pop the top off of the glow relay and unplug the
connector for the glow plugs. There is a contact for each glow plug
in this connector.  I clip one meter lead to the fused side of the
big, screw-in fuse and then touch each glowplug contact, one at a
time. The socket has pin numbers molded into it, and these numbers
correspond to the cylinder number.

This method tests the supply 12V, the wire, and the plug. When
cold, a good plug draws about 20A (Well, on my meter it point
to the mark for 20 amps. I have not calibrated or tested the
accuracy of that meter...) It will drop back to about 15A
after 8-10 seconds.

Once the one wire is connected to the fuse, DO NOT LET THE
OTHER WIRE TOUCH CHASSIS GROUND!!!  Or the big fuse will blow
and possibly so will your ammeter. :)

If the plug is bad, the current will usually be less.  If it is
shorted it will be much more.

If the wire or connectors are in poor shape, the current will
be less.

If the supply voltage is low, the current will be less.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Exploding road

[Craig]

On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:18:48 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

>> http://jalopnik.com/this-is-what-happens-when-a-road-explodes-in-front-of-y-1471310150

> The car that hits doesn't even touch the brakes...

Actually, he does hit his brakes. You have to look at them go off after
he hits the obstacle. It's more obvious in the slow-motion replay.


Craig

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[MBZ] OT - Insults

[David & Kristin Gilmore]

 Something for Gary and his critics.  (All in good fun.)


http://www.pangloss.com/seidel/Shaker/index.html



 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Someone needs to come up with the earliest instance in which Rodney
Dangerfield uttered these famous words.

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

> I had mentioned Albert King in a previous post.  Apparently the version
> written for him predated Cream's (also great) by a year.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_Under_a_Bad_Sign_%28song%29#Original_song
>
> Even so, the lyrics were previously used as far back as '54 by Lightnin'
> Slim.  Really, a lot of these R&B lyrics are kinda mix & match and reuse.
>
> Greg
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:57 AM
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?
>
> Do I have to pay residuals to Cream for misattributing a line from their
> song?
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Mountain Man 
> wrote:
>
> > Rick wrote:
> > > And Cream.
> > > 
> >
> > The original is better:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1pzXJuvdAY
> >
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[MBZ] dan gordon lifestyle week continues

[Gary Hurst]

i road my rusty cruiser bike (lives outside on the intercoastal, chained to
a post) around in the rain wearing my akubra hat . stopped at the local
bike shop to see if he felt all the rust was a structural danger.  got
rained on heavily.  stopped at the russian market for real russian rye
bread.  got rained on some more.  chained it back up to the post.

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[MBZ] OT: B-52 Mission

[Greg Fiorentino]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/27/world/asia/us-flies-b-52s-into-chinas-expa
nded-air-defense-zone.html?partner=rss

&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=2&

 

0r

 

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

[Greg Fiorentino]

I had mentioned Albert King in a previous post.  Apparently the version
written for him predated Cream's (also great) by a year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_Under_a_Bad_Sign_%28song%29#Original_song

Even so, the lyrics were previously used as far back as '54 by Lightnin'
Slim.  Really, a lot of these R&B lyrics are kinda mix & match and reuse.

Greg

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Strasfogel
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

Do I have to pay residuals to Cream for misattributing a line from their
song?

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Rick wrote:
> > And Cream.
> > 
>
> The original is better:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1pzXJuvdAY
>
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Re: [MBZ] Rotella Moto oil 15 W 50 WTF?

[Andrew Strasfogel]

Do I have to pay residuals to Cream for misattributing a line from their
song?

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Rick wrote:
> > And Cream.
> > 
>
> The original is better:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1pzXJuvdAY
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Exploding road

[Curt Raymond]

The car that hits doesn't even touch the brakes...

-Curt

Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:35:03 -0500
From: Rich Thomas 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] OT Exploding road
Message-ID: <5294a387.3090...@constructivity.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

http://jalopnik.com/this-is-what-happens-when-a-road-explodes-in-front-of-y-1471310150

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Re: [MBZ] OT Exploding road

[Greg Fiorentino]

That'll teach him!  Passing on the right.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT Exploding road

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1471310150

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Re: [MBZ] First Casualty of the WI Deer Hunt

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Nov 25, 2013 1:14 PM, "WILTON"  wrote:
>
> Yep, I've missed out on it again.
>  Pauvre moi.  Who the etc. is Jay
> Leggett?

"Redneck comic" a la Jeff Foxworthy or Larry the Cable Guy who extolled the
virtues of deer hunting, hence the irony...

Alrx
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Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice

[WILTON]

Driving a Mercedes with an askew star may be like flying a B-47 with a 
stuck-askew yaw string - that's a short piece of parachute cord attached to 
aircraft centerline delineated by thin white line on black field immediately 
in front of pilot's windshield.;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice



On 26/11/2013 9:33 AM, WILTON wrote:
An askew or missing star makes for erratic, frustrating and unsafe 
driving - 'hard to concentrate on real driving, situational awareness, 
speed control, lane integrity, spacing, traffic conditions, etc.  'Could 
be worse than texting or talking on phone.  'Better park it 'til ya get 
that replaced. ;<)


Wilton

I have to say that my car was just not the same without the star. I missed 
it.


On the other hand, my Suburban had a hood ornament that I really disliked.
I had the vehicle painted when it got old and needed some rejuvination and 
one of the things I had the shop do was remove the hood ornament and weld 
the hole shut.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice

[Dan Penoff]

What I find amusing is that you can buy aftermarket hood stars for the W140 
coupes.

Can't imagine why - I like the surface mounted badge far better.  I do miss 
having a gunsight for my bumper mounted weapons, however.

Dan


On Nov 26, 2013, at 11:45 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

> On Nov 26, 2013 7:44 AM, "Rich Thomas" 
> wrote:
>> 
>> I even read of the heresy of the new E
>> being available with a poseur star in
>> the grill instead of where it belongs.
> 
> But that was standard on 140 coupes, so there's some precedent.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice

[Gary Hurst]

it's true

http://www.buyeuroparts.com/item.wws?sku=W0133-1842866&itempk=102075&mfr=Genuine&weight=0.25

say $40 delivered via USPS priority mail in the USA


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> On 25/11/2013 11:12 PM, Craig wrote:
>
>> While driving to church Sunday morning, I noticed that the hood star on
>> our 1982 240D/3.0 was crooked. When we got to church, I got out and tried
>> to straighten it. Eventhough it had snowed and was in the mid-20s, I did
>> not think of ice. When I tried to move it, the star broke off in my hand.
>>
>> So, Kaleb, do you have a W123 hood star? If so, how much?
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> ___
>>
>>  Should be able to get one through Gary.
> I got one through Rusty a few years back when some lowlife jerk liberated
> mine.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Nov 26, 2013 7:44 AM, "Rich Thomas" 
wrote:
>
> I even read of the heresy of the new E
> being available with a poseur star in
> the grill instead of where it belongs.

But that was standard on 140 coupes, so there's some precedent.

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Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice

[Randy Bennell]

On 26/11/2013 9:33 AM, WILTON wrote:
An askew or missing star makes for erratic, frustrating and unsafe 
driving - 'hard to concentrate on real driving, situational awareness, 
speed control, lane integrity, spacing, traffic conditions, etc.  
'Could be worse than texting or talking on phone.  'Better park it 
'til ya get that replaced. ;<)


Wilton

I have to say that my car was just not the same without the star. I 
missed it.


On the other hand, my Suburban had a hood ornament that I really disliked.
I had the vehicle painted when it got old and needed some rejuvination 
and one of the things I had the shop do was remove the hood ornament and 
weld the hole shut.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice

[Randy Bennell]

On 25/11/2013 11:12 PM, Craig wrote:

While driving to church Sunday morning, I noticed that the hood star on
our 1982 240D/3.0 was crooked. When we got to church, I got out and tried
to straighten it. Eventhough it had snowed and was in the mid-20s, I did
not think of ice. When I tried to move it, the star broke off in my hand.

So, Kaleb, do you have a W123 hood star? If so, how much?


Craig

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I got one through Rusty a few years back when some lowlife jerk 
liberated mine.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] First Casualty of the WI Deer Hunt

[Randy Bennell]

On 25/11/2013 6:39 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

It is.

Usually the victim is Grandpa, who as been doing this all his life.  He shoots 
a deer, tracks it until it falls, then carries the carcass back to camp.  At 
least he tries to.  Usually find him face down in the snow.

It's that "healthy lifestyle" they lead up there. All those brats and beer.

Dan



Maybe a bit hard on those who find him, but   not a bad way for grandpa 
to go. Out doing what he enjoys.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice

[Rich Thomas]

Buy a new S  and all that will be taken care of for you.

I even read of the heresy of the new E being available with a poseur 
star in the grill instead of where it belongs.  Kinda like the 
wankerfication of the Jaguar with the little growling kitty face instead 
of the leaper.  Wankers all.


--R


On 11/26/13 10:33 AM, WILTON wrote:
An askew or missing star makes for erratic, frustrating and unsafe 
driving - 'hard to concentrate on real driving, situational awareness, 
speed control, lane integrity, spacing, traffic conditions, etc.  
'Could be worse than texting or talking on phone.  'Better park it 
'til ya get that replaced. ;<)


Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice

[WILTON]

An askew or missing star makes for erratic, frustrating and unsafe driving - 
'hard to concentrate on real driving, situational awareness, speed control, 
lane integrity, spacing, traffic conditions, etc.  'Could be worse than 
texting or talking on phone.  'Better park it 'til ya get that replaced. 
;<)


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig" 

To: "mercedes" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:12 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice



While driving to church Sunday morning, I noticed that the hood star on
our 1982 240D/3.0 was crooked. When we got to church, I got out and tried
to straighten it. Eventhough it had snowed and was in the mid-20s, I did
not think of ice. When I tried to move it, the star broke off in my hand.

So, Kaleb, do you have a W123 hood star? If so, how much?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice

[Richard Hattaway]

The stars are unique... the only hood ornament that, in the correct atmospheric 
conditions, will condense water on your windshield as you drive down the road.  
IE, no rain, but heavy humidity, cool, etc.  You'll get a big cloud of water in 
the center of the windshield.  

I promised myself that if it ever took the shape of a star I would take a 
picture of it.  Never did, however.  Guess I didn't get the right conditions.. 



On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:59 AM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
 
Craig wrote:
> While driving to church Sunday morning, I noticed that the hood star on
> our 1982 240D/3.0 was crooked. When we got to church, I got out and tried
> to straighten it. Eventhough it had snowed and was in the mid-20s, I did
> not think of ice. When I tried to move it, the star broke off in my hand.
> 
> So, Kaleb, do you have a W123 hood star? If so, how much?

IIRC, you could buy a new one for less than $20 ten years ago.
Now it seems the W124 star has replaced it.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/2414559-post14.html


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Re: [MBZ] dan gordon will be pleased to wear

[G Mann]

That poor hat in the link is so pristine it hardly looks worn. It has no
character. I would have to wear it at night or turn in my man card. No way
could I be seen in public with it on.  Show up at a roundup with that on
and every real wrangler would know you were a sissy city slicker dandy
boy.  Besides, you would have to stand for all the drinks for the real
cowboys.

Required components for a "real " hat.  Sweat stain at the head band at
least 2 inches into the crown [sweat must be mixed with dirt as evidence of
"realness"].  Stomp marks from more than one animal where you lost the hat
but not the fight to control it..  The oral provenance of a mixture of
sweat, more sweat, animal sweat, swamp mud, blood...[some animal, some
human, some your own] , smoke from camp fires and outdoor cooking smells.
This "man perfume" says you and the hat are one, have been for decades, and
upon pain of death can not be separated. Extra points for a bullet hole or
two and a good story about how you threw the hat over a poisonous snake
then shot it while laying sleeping on the ground... near the open
campfire... before dawn... and saved the sheila...

It's not a hat.. it's a bloody crown.. cause you are king of your kingdom..
own it.. hahaha.


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:55 AM, Hendrik and Fay  wrote:

> Sort of true, needs more than mud, a trampling or two and other things
> that animals do.
> Once it no longer has the original band, sweat stains and a hole or two,
> it's a hat.
>
> Hendrik
> whose Stetson (kinda like this http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/
> m07wKupWYwfH3jDJW08zL6g.jpg has all of the above and is somewhere in the
> truck, waiting for a hot or rainy day
>
> On 26/11/13 13:12, Mountain Man wrote:
>
>> Dan wrote:
>>
>>> Hardly ever wear it as I'm afraid it will get messed up.
>>>
>> A friend from Aussie always said an akubra was not deemed a hat until
>> it had been in the mud 6 times.  Henifay? - true/false?
>> mao
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Exploding road

[Mitch Haley]

Rich Thomas wrote:
http://jalopnik.com/this-is-what-happens-when-a-road-explodes-in-front-of-y-1471310150 


That's the new variety of red light cam.
When it sees you accelerating on red, it blows a big stop strip in front of you.
Notice the camera car started slowing down when the light turned yellow, and the 
crash car was behind the camera car at the time.

Mitch.

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[MBZ] OT Exploding road

[Rich Thomas]

http://jalopnik.com/this-is-what-happens-when-a-road-explodes-in-front-of-y-1471310150

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Re: [MBZ] Hood Stars and Ice

[Mitch Haley]

Craig wrote:

While driving to church Sunday morning, I noticed that the hood star on
our 1982 240D/3.0 was crooked. When we got to church, I got out and tried
to straighten it. Eventhough it had snowed and was in the mid-20s, I did
not think of ice. When I tried to move it, the star broke off in my hand.

So, Kaleb, do you have a W123 hood star? If so, how much?


IIRC, you could buy a new one for less than $20 ten years ago.
Now it seems the W124 star has replaced it.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/2414559-post14.html

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Re: [MBZ] dan gordon will be pleased to wear

[Hendrik and Fay]

Sort of true, needs more than mud, a trampling or two and other things 
that animals do.
Once it no longer has the original band, sweat stains and a hole or two, 
it's a hat.


Hendrik
whose Stetson (kinda like this 
http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m07wKupWYwfH3jDJW08zL6g.jpg has 
all of the above and is somewhere in the truck, waiting for a hot or 
rainy day


On 26/11/13 13:12, Mountain Man wrote:

Dan wrote:

Hardly ever wear it as I'm afraid it will get messed up.

A friend from Aussie always said an akubra was not deemed a hat until
it had been in the mud 6 times.  Henifay? - true/false?
mao


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