Re: [MBZ] Going Asian
Valrico is not even close to Central Florida, which has a different climate and where most of the agriculture is either citrus or cattle ranching. In our area it is mostly strawberries and tomatoes. You start getting into citrus out by Lakeland, which is a good 30-40 miles from me. Ruskin, which is immediately south of us, is one of the largest tomato producing areas in the nation. Immediately east of us is Plant City, the center of strawberry (and some blueberry) production in the U.S. Plant City's economy is centered around the strawberry business, and nearly every tillable acre in the area is used to grow them. There were the occasional citrus groves, but they are long gone. The climate in the Tampa area is temperate enough that citrus does not grow well here, at least not as well as it does in Central Florida, where the summers are hotter and the rains more consistent. It also tends to get colder here in the winter, if you want to call it that. I am much closer to Tampa than Lakeland. I suspect you're basing your observations on interstate exits, which, if traveling I-4 from Tampa to Orlando, would have you believe that Lakeland is the next stop east once you leave Tampa proper. And there is still a lot of open space in our area. Just a few hundred yards from my house is a horse ranch that covers about 30 acres, and just east of that is another small ranch of 26 acres. 4-5 miles south of me a good friend owns a 400 acre cattle ranch. There is a fair amount of development, but there are still a lot of wide open spaces, too. Going south of me towards Ruskin and Parrish the land is almost completely agricultural. Dan On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: nah, all the grapefruits are long gone from valrico and replaced by subdivisions. although valrico is WAY out there, almost to lakeland by my reckoning! jabba now knows more about central florida than he ever dreamt man On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: ...i stopped to conduct business with a toothless woman... ...she told me she is involved in moving these cars in the non-grapefruit season and has driven 100s of them I need to move to Valrico and take a job doing this. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 glow light
Does anyone know all the different meanings of no preheat bulb ? It seems there's a meaning if the bulb comes on after start (1 bad GP) - at least I think that's right. Is this something Bosch designed on purpose? Larry Please Visit My AMSOIL Online Store: http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/default.aspx?zo=5114156 Oil Analysis Site - www.youroil.net On 12/4/2013 8:53 PM, WILTON wrote: 'Switched bulb with known good one; still no light; bulb removed from glow socket works in other socket. NO glow light at any time today. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 glow light Either the bulb is blown or you have a dead glow plug. If it comes on AFTER you start, you have more than one dead glow plug. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Going Asian
if you are east of brandon, you are in lakeland in my book On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Valrico is not even close to Central Florida, which has a different climate and where most of the agriculture is either citrus or cattle ranching. In our area it is mostly strawberries and tomatoes. You start getting into citrus out by Lakeland, which is a good 30-40 miles from me. Ruskin, which is immediately south of us, is one of the largest tomato producing areas in the nation. Immediately east of us is Plant City, the center of strawberry (and some blueberry) production in the U.S. Plant City's economy is centered around the strawberry business, and nearly every tillable acre in the area is used to grow them. There were the occasional citrus groves, but they are long gone. The climate in the Tampa area is temperate enough that citrus does not grow well here, at least not as well as it does in Central Florida, where the summers are hotter and the rains more consistent. It also tends to get colder here in the winter, if you want to call it that. I am much closer to Tampa than Lakeland. I suspect you're basing your observations on interstate exits, which, if traveling I-4 from Tampa to Orlando, would have you believe that Lakeland is the next stop east once you leave Tampa proper. And there is still a lot of open space in our area. Just a few hundred yards from my house is a horse ranch that covers about 30 acres, and just east of that is another small ranch of 26 acres. 4-5 miles south of me a good friend owns a 400 acre cattle ranch. There is a fair amount of development, but there are still a lot of wide open spaces, too. Going south of me towards Ruskin and Parrish the land is almost completely agricultural. Dan On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: nah, all the grapefruits are long gone from valrico and replaced by subdivisions. although valrico is WAY out there, almost to lakeland by my reckoning! jabba now knows more about central florida than he ever dreamt man On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: ...i stopped to conduct business with a toothless woman... ...she told me she is involved in moving these cars in the non-grapefruit season and has driven 100s of them I need to move to Valrico and take a job doing this. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Going Asian
Edit your book. Lots of space between Brandon and Lakeland. I'm in the very southern reaches of Valrico, which is truly an outlier. I'm really more Lithia than Valrico. Valrico is really immediately east of Brandon, but it stretches well to the south for some reason. On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: if you are east of brandon, you are in lakeland in my book On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Valrico is not even close to Central Florida, which has a different climate and where most of the agriculture is either citrus or cattle ranching. In our area it is mostly strawberries and tomatoes. You start getting into citrus out by Lakeland, which is a good 30-40 miles from me. Ruskin, which is immediately south of us, is one of the largest tomato producing areas in the nation. Immediately east of us is Plant City, the center of strawberry (and some blueberry) production in the U.S. Plant City's economy is centered around the strawberry business, and nearly every tillable acre in the area is used to grow them. There were the occasional citrus groves, but they are long gone. The climate in the Tampa area is temperate enough that citrus does not grow well here, at least not as well as it does in Central Florida, where the summers are hotter and the rains more consistent. It also tends to get colder here in the winter, if you want to call it that. I am much closer to Tampa than Lakeland. I suspect you're basing your observations on interstate exits, which, if traveling I-4 from Tampa to Orlando, would have you believe that Lakeland is the next stop east once you leave Tampa proper. And there is still a lot of open space in our area. Just a few hundred yards from my house is a horse ranch that covers about 30 acres, and just east of that is another small ranch of 26 acres. 4-5 miles south of me a good friend owns a 400 acre cattle ranch. There is a fair amount of development, but there are still a lot of wide open spaces, too. Going south of me towards Ruskin and Parrish the land is almost completely agricultural. Dan On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: nah, all the grapefruits are long gone from valrico and replaced by subdivisions. although valrico is WAY out there, almost to lakeland by my reckoning! jabba now knows more about central florida than he ever dreamt man On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: ...i stopped to conduct business with a toothless woman... ...she told me she is involved in moving these cars in the non-grapefruit season and has driven 100s of them I need to move to Valrico and take a job doing this. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Going Asian
yes, and tampa end at brandon. beyond that is lakeland or, in your case, south lakeland. you are practically neighbors with johnny B already over there :P On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Edit your book. Lots of space between Brandon and Lakeland. I'm in the very southern reaches of Valrico, which is truly an outlier. I'm really more Lithia than Valrico. Valrico is really immediately east of Brandon, but it stretches well to the south for some reason. On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: if you are east of brandon, you are in lakeland in my book On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Valrico is not even close to Central Florida, which has a different climate and where most of the agriculture is either citrus or cattle ranching. In our area it is mostly strawberries and tomatoes. You start getting into citrus out by Lakeland, which is a good 30-40 miles from me. Ruskin, which is immediately south of us, is one of the largest tomato producing areas in the nation. Immediately east of us is Plant City, the center of strawberry (and some blueberry) production in the U.S. Plant City's economy is centered around the strawberry business, and nearly every tillable acre in the area is used to grow them. There were the occasional citrus groves, but they are long gone. The climate in the Tampa area is temperate enough that citrus does not grow well here, at least not as well as it does in Central Florida, where the summers are hotter and the rains more consistent. It also tends to get colder here in the winter, if you want to call it that. I am much closer to Tampa than Lakeland. I suspect you're basing your observations on interstate exits, which, if traveling I-4 from Tampa to Orlando, would have you believe that Lakeland is the next stop east once you leave Tampa proper. And there is still a lot of open space in our area. Just a few hundred yards from my house is a horse ranch that covers about 30 acres, and just east of that is another small ranch of 26 acres. 4-5 miles south of me a good friend owns a 400 acre cattle ranch. There is a fair amount of development, but there are still a lot of wide open spaces, too. Going south of me towards Ruskin and Parrish the land is almost completely agricultural. Dan On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:41 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: nah, all the grapefruits are long gone from valrico and replaced by subdivisions. although valrico is WAY out there, almost to lakeland by my reckoning! jabba now knows more about central florida than he ever dreamt man On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Gary wrote: ...i stopped to conduct business with a toothless woman... ...she told me she is involved in moving these cars in the non-grapefruit season and has driven 100s of them I need to move to Valrico and take a job doing this. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Going Asian
Who is Johhny B? On Dec 5, 2013, at 8:33 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yes, and tampa end at brandon. beyond that is lakeland or, in your case, south lakeland. you are practically neighbors with johnny B already over there :P On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Edit your book. Lots of space between Brandon and Lakeland. I'm in the very southern reaches of Valrico, which is truly an outlier. I'm really more Lithia than Valrico. Valrico is really immediately east of Brandon, but it stretches well to the south for some reason. On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: if you are east of brandon, you are in lakeland in my book On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Valrico is not even close to Central Florida, which has a different climate and where most of the agriculture is either citrus or cattle ranching. In our area it is mostly strawberries and tomatoes. You start getting into citrus out by Lakeland, which is a good 30-40 miles from me. Ruskin, which is immediately south of us, is one of the largest tomato producing areas in the nation. Immediately east of us is Plant City, the center of strawberry (and some blueberry) production in the U.S. Plant City's economy is centered around the strawberry business, and nearly every tillable acre in the area is used to grow them. There were the occasional citrus groves, but they are long gone. The climate in the Tampa area is temperate enough that citrus does not grow well here, at least not as well as it does in Central Florida, where the ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More
Guys, Thanks for the previous clarification on the glow plugs for the 617 engine. Yesterday was warm here in the Atlanta area so I replaced my glow plugs (80 300SD) with the Beru regular tips that I had. Removed the old Beru which were the tapered tip. Old plugs looked ok with no carbon build up, reamed the plug hole with a stiff wire brush (gun cleaner), not much there, changed both filters, re-primed system, and NOTHING. It still just cranks the same and won't start. It cranks slow which now makes me think the starter has gotten too weak to crank fast enough. The battery is only about 3 months old (Bosch group 49) and seems ok. I've checked the relay fuse, ok. I've checked all wiring to glow plugs, looks ok. Fuel in pre-filter looks nice and clean. Can you guys think of anything else I might check? I'm not a DIY guy so I don't have electrical test gauges, etc. I just hate to pay a tow bill to my Indie just to have him laugh and tell me it's something simple I overlooked. Now, I could tow it to start it because I've done that before (35 mph, 2nd gear, starts right up if battery dead), but the tranny is old and I don't want to stress it. Thanks for any suggestions. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More
Can you guys think of anything else I might check? I'm not a DIY guy so I don't have electrical test gauges, etc. Get some. Even the free-with-coupon meter at Harbor Freight can tell you a lot. I'd want to know about voltage drops across wiring while cranking, voltage at GP's, etc. You sure the GP fuse is good? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Going Asian
Dan Penoff wrote: Who is Johhny B? FEMA Berryman? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1971 Mercedes Benz 220, 4 door, Brown with Camel Interior, Low Miles * - $995 (Watertown)
Mao, et al. Rear window is probably pricey. I suspect that it at least runs. New-ish battery, clean carb., recent cap and wires. If I only had my 40 acre parking garage, sigh. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1971 Mercedes Benz 220, 4 door, Brown with Camel Interior, Low Miles * - $995 (Watertown) Fred wrote: Not mine, etc. Very nice looking and wonderful price. Text did not indicate that it is running well, just told about broken rear glass, which might be tough to replace? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More
Agreed, you need to check it see if you're getting power at the plugs from the relay. Does the light on the dash come on? It's also possible for the GP relay fuse to look ok, but actually have a small crack that's not immediately visible. So remove it and inspect carefully. Jaime On Thursday, December 5, 2013, wrote: Guys, Thanks for the previous clarification on the glow plugs for the 617 engine. Yesterday was warm here in the Atlanta area so I replaced my glow plugs (80 300SD) with the Beru regular tips that I had. Removed the old Beru which were the tapered tip. Old plugs looked ok with no carbon build up, reamed the plug hole with a stiff wire brush (gun cleaner), not much there, changed both filters, re-primed system, and NOTHING. It still just cranks the same and won't start. It cranks slow which now makes me think the starter has gotten too weak to crank fast enough. The battery is only about 3 months old (Bosch group 49) and seems ok. I've checked the relay fuse, ok. I've checked all wiring to glow plugs, looks ok. Fuel in pre-filter looks nice and clean. Can you guys think of anything else I might check? I'm not a DIY guy so I don't have electrical test gauges, etc. I just hate to pay a tow bill to my Indie just to have him laugh and tell me it's something simple I overlooked. Now, I could tow it to start it because I've done that before (35 mph, 2nd gear, starts right up if battery dead), but the tranny is old and I don't want to stress it. Thanks for any suggestions. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] iOS Mercedes
Jaime, Without revealing any secrets, does it look like iOS will be deployed in the 2014 model year? MacDan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 glow light
I'm surprised it's been starting so well! #'s 1, 4 and 5 are bad; 3 and 6 are weak. I'll replace #1 immediately; rest of 'em on a fun Sat. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 glow light 'Switched bulb with known good one; still no light; bulb removed from glow socket works in other socket. NO glow light at any time today. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 glow light Either the bulb is blown or you have a dead glow plug. If it comes on AFTER you start, you have more than one dead glow plug. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More
Jaime, etc., Because of the slow cranking, I'm starting to lean away from the glow system. The relay fuse did look good when I checked it as well as the wiring contacts inside the box. Are there any connections I'm not seeing that could cause slow cranking? I just had the alternator replaced about 2-3 months ago because it killed the old battery and put in a new battery as well. It was starting ok, then now it won't. I guess the starter or solenoid could have just gotten tired also, or there could be a wire somewhere not providing a good solid connection. I'll try to get under it again and look at the starter connections later this afternoon if the rain holds off. Thanks guys, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 grille insert?
Unfortunately, I am in the throes of moving and the grille in question is now locked up in temporary storage. When I resurrect later this month it I will try to rememebr to do this. Feel free to remind me if you don't hear anything by new year. Andrew On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:58 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: hi Andrew! Curt and i decided that the one he had was probably a little bit shabbier than what i was looking for. (tip-'o-the-hat to Curt for making that call and sending pics before shipping!) if you're still willing to consider making a deal for the grille you've got, is there any chance you might be able to snap a pic of it and letting me take a peek at it? cheers! e On 28/Oct/13 20:26, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I have a spare grille with a good insert if that's what you need. Let me know. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i think so too, but there are some guys who really want everyone just a certain way and will complain about the way the chinese plastic looks On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Cheap aftermarket is usually fine on those kind of parts Sent from my iPhone On Oct 28, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the plastic piece tends to be cheaper, about 70 bucks or so in genuine. if you want the whole assembly, you are going to be talking bit money in genuine, so you will have to be looking aftermarket or used On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:53 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: hi all! high winds in our area last night had lots of stuff flying around on the highway, and i happened to pick up a piece of something that destroyed parts of the grille of our '85 300D. it looks like the majority of the damage was restricted to the grey plastic grille that sits inside of the main outer frame surround, and perhaps a few more dings in the chrome decorative strips. i couldn't find any MBZ logos or P/Ns of any kind on it, and have my suspicions that this might be an aftermarket piece put on by a previous owner after a 'fender-bender'. any hints or tips on where and how to get a replacement for a car that doesn't have to be show quality, but is a good regular driver that we're keeping looking fairly nice? should i just bite down and replace the whole grille and frame? cheers! e __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 grille insert?
fair enough; thanks. good luck with the move; i don't envy you that chore! cheers! e On 05/Dec/13 10:29, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Unfortunately, I am in the throes of moving and the grille in question is now locked up in temporary storage. When I resurrect later this month it I will try to rememebr to do this. Feel free to remind me if you don't hear anything by new year. Andrew On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:58 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: hi Andrew! Curt and i decided that the one he had was probably a little bit shabbier than what i was looking for. (tip-'o-the-hat to Curt for making that call and sending pics before shipping!) if you're still willing to consider making a deal for the grille you've got, is there any chance you might be able to snap a pic of it and letting me take a peek at it? cheers! e On 28/Oct/13 20:26, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I have a spare grille with a good insert if that's what you need. Let me know. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i think so too, but there are some guys who really want everyone just a certain way and will complain about the way the chinese plastic looks On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Cheap aftermarket is usually fine on those kind of parts Sent from my iPhone On Oct 28, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the plastic piece tends to be cheaper, about 70 bucks or so in genuine. if you want the whole assembly, you are going to be talking bit money in genuine, so you will have to be looking aftermarket or used On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:53 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: hi all! high winds in our area last night had lots of stuff flying around on the highway, and i happened to pick up a piece of something that destroyed parts of the grille of our '85 300D. it looks like the majority of the damage was restricted to the grey plastic grille that sits inside of the main outer frame surround, and perhaps a few more dings in the chrome decorative strips. i couldn't find any MBZ logos or P/Ns of any kind on it, and have my suspicions that this might be an aftermarket piece put on by a previous owner after a 'fender-bender'. any hints or tips on where and how to get a replacement for a car that doesn't have to be show quality, but is a good regular driver that we're keeping looking fairly nice? should i just bite down and replace the whole grille and frame? cheers! e __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More
It sure can. One day my 82 SD wouldn't start. The GP fuse looked good. But when I loosened one of the screws that holds the fuse, half of the fuse fell out. It was cracked totally through at the bend but that was not visible with the fuse installed. You need loosen one of the screws to check that fuse (and do that before you kill the battery by extended cranking). As an editorial comment, troubleshooting electrical stuff without a meter is like being blind and deaf. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Kopchinski It's also possible for the GP relay fuse to look ok, but actually have a small crack that's not immediately visible. So remove it and inspect carefully. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Going Asian
obviously On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: Who is Johhny B? FEMA Berryman? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1971 Mercedes Benz 220, 4 door, Brown with Camel Interior, Low Miles * - $995 (Watertown)
glass place or junkyard would be cheaper on rear window On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.comwrote: Mao, et al. Rear window is probably pricey. I suspect that it at least runs. New-ish battery, clean carb., recent cap and wires. If I only had my 40 acre parking garage, sigh. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 1971 Mercedes Benz 220, 4 door, Brown with Camel Interior, Low Miles * - $995 (Watertown) Fred wrote: Not mine, etc. Very nice looking and wonderful price. Text did not indicate that it is running well, just told about broken rear glass, which might be tough to replace? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] iOS Mercedes
Without revealing any secrets, does it look like iOS will be deployed in the 2014 model year? The only way to control the radio will be to type in four levels of arcane CLI commands over a serial port? Oh, you mean -that- iOS. Carry on. :) Best, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More
I guess the starter or solenoid could have just gotten tired... The solenoid either works or doesn't. If the starter turns the engine at all, then the solenoid is fine. Poor connections to the starter could cause poor performance. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of roger...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:31 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More Jaime, etc., Because of the slow cranking, I'm starting to lean away from the glow system. The relay fuse did look good when I checked it as well as the wiring contacts inside the box. Are there any connections I'm not seeing that could cause slow cranking? I just had the alternator replaced about 2-3 months ago because it killed the old battery and put in a new battery as well. It was starting ok, then now it won't. I guess the starter or solenoid could have just gotten tired also, or there could be a wire somewhere not providing a good solid connection. I'll try to get under it again and look at the starter connections later this afternoon if the rain holds off. Thanks guys, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More
I would agree. If the starter is cranking slowly, it's almost always an indication of a poor connection, cable or battery. It either works or it doesn't. Dan On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I guess the starter or solenoid could have just gotten tired... The solenoid either works or doesn't. If the starter turns the engine at all, then the solenoid is fine. Poor connections to the starter could cause poor performance. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of roger...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:31 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More Jaime, etc., Because of the slow cranking, I'm starting to lean away from the glow system. The relay fuse did look good when I checked it as well as the wiring contacts inside the box. Are there any connections I'm not seeing that could cause slow cranking? I just had the alternator replaced about 2-3 months ago because it killed the old battery and put in a new battery as well. It was starting ok, then now it won't. I guess the starter or solenoid could have just gotten tired also, or there could be a wire somewhere not providing a good solid connection. I'll try to get under it again and look at the starter connections later this afternoon if the rain holds off. Thanks guys, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More
usually slow cranking has meant a weak battery for me On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I would agree. If the starter is cranking slowly, it's almost always an indication of a poor connection, cable or battery. It either works or it doesn't. Dan On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I guess the starter or solenoid could have just gotten tired... The solenoid either works or doesn't. If the starter turns the engine at all, then the solenoid is fine. Poor connections to the starter could cause poor performance. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of roger...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:31 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More Jaime, etc., Because of the slow cranking, I'm starting to lean away from the glow system. The relay fuse did look good when I checked it as well as the wiring contacts inside the box. Are there any connections I'm not seeing that could cause slow cranking? I just had the alternator replaced about 2-3 months ago because it killed the old battery and put in a new battery as well. It was starting ok, then now it won't. I guess the starter or solenoid could have just gotten tired also, or there could be a wire somewhere not providing a good solid connection. I'll try to get under it again and look at the starter connections later this afternoon if the rain holds off. Thanks guys, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Going Asian
Geez, I had totally forgotten about him. He pretty well vanished from the face of the Earth... Dan On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: obviously On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: Who is Johhny B? FEMA Berryman? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 glow light
#1's replaced. Wilt - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 glow light I'm surprised it's been starting so well! #'s 1, 4 and 5 are bad; 3 and 6 are weak. I'll replace #1 immediately; rest of 'em on a fun Sat. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 glow light 'Switched bulb with known good one; still no light; bulb removed from glow socket works in other socket. NO glow light at any time today. Wilton - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 glow light Either the bulb is blown or you have a dead glow plug. If it comes on AFTER you start, you have more than one dead glow plug. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 grille insert?
Ya gonna have garden space? Wilton - Original Message - From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 grille insert? Unfortunately, I am in the throes of moving and the grille in question is now locked up in temporary storage. When I resurrect later this month it I will try to rememebr to do this. Feel free to remind me if you don't hear anything by new year. Andrew On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:58 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: hi Andrew! Curt and i decided that the one he had was probably a little bit shabbier than what i was looking for. (tip-'o-the-hat to Curt for making that call and sending pics before shipping!) if you're still willing to consider making a deal for the grille you've got, is there any chance you might be able to snap a pic of it and letting me take a peek at it? cheers! e On 28/Oct/13 20:26, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I have a spare grille with a good insert if that's what you need. Let me know. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i think so too, but there are some guys who really want everyone just a certain way and will complain about the way the chinese plastic looks On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Cheap aftermarket is usually fine on those kind of parts Sent from my iPhone On Oct 28, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the plastic piece tends to be cheaper, about 70 bucks or so in genuine. if you want the whole assembly, you are going to be talking bit money in genuine, so you will have to be looking aftermarket or used On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:53 PM, ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote: hi all! high winds in our area last night had lots of stuff flying around on the highway, and i happened to pick up a piece of something that destroyed parts of the grille of our '85 300D. it looks like the majority of the damage was restricted to the grey plastic grille that sits inside of the main outer frame surround, and perhaps a few more dings in the chrome decorative strips. i couldn't find any MBZ logos or P/Ns of any kind on it, and have my suspicions that this might be an aftermarket piece put on by a previous owner after a 'fender-bender'. any hints or tips on where and how to get a replacement for a car that doesn't have to be show quality, but is a good regular driver that we're keeping looking fairly nice? should i just bite down and replace the whole grille and frame? cheers! e __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.buyeuroparts.com/* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
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Curt, et al. Ice Pilots NWT S05E07. The Canadian Arctic Rangers, mostly Inuit, are using a good old Coleman stove similar to the ones you bring to ChowdahQ. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Going Asian
not off of my earth and the earth of many, but just off of kleb list country On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Geez, I had totally forgotten about him. He pretty well vanished from the face of the Earth... Dan On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:38 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: obviously On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: Who is Johhny B? FEMA Berryman? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 grille insert?
On 05/12/2013 12:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Unfortunately, I am in the throes of moving and the grille in question is now locked up in temporary storage. When I resurrect later this month it I will try to rememebr to do this. Feel free to remind me if you don't hear anything by new year. Andrew Where are you moving to? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Going Asian
On 12/4/2013 10:24 AM, Frederick Moir wrote: Gerry. I use Malwarebytes anti rootkit and Malwarebyte anti malware. Free to use. YMMV Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: arche...@embarqmail.comarche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Going Asian Believe I have a rootkit virus in one of my WinXP computers. Win Defender Offline is supposed to be the most likely way to remove it, and if that doesn't work then reloading WinXP is the only sure method supposedly. Windows has 3 or 4 discussions about Defender Offline, and not one ##$%^$$%#!!! website where it can be downloaded from Microsoft; only various private websites which I've found to be problematic at times. I'm using Win7 which is new to me, so the Windows download site for Win Defender is probably someplace I haven't looked yet. All suggestions welcome. Thanks, Gerry ___ Hi Fred, I have regular Malwarebytes and AVG which turned up nothing, but a local newspaper columnist who is usually right about computer problems says that some rootkit viruses are undetectable and that their presence has to be detected by what they do to your software such as blocking the use of email clients, CD uploads and downloads, and several other functions. Microsoft addressed this problem by creating Win Defender Offline. Of course, there may be no virus and the 2006 cheap laptop may be dying. If I could figure out some way to put WInXP on a Win7 laptop, that would solve the problem. WinXP is simple compared to Microsofts and Apples later programs. I'm interested in what people write in emails; not in having to fiddle around with software. It's enough to drive me to Damn Small Linux (DSL). (grin) (End of rant.) Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Going Asian
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I have regular Malwarebytes and AVG which turned up nothing, but a local newspaper columnist who is usually right about computer problems says that some rootkit viruses are undetectable and that their presence has to be detected by what they do to your software such as blocking the use of email clients, CD uploads and downloads, and several other functions. Microsoft addressed this problem by creating Win Defender Offline. The older MS downloads will not be reliable against new threats anyway. Frankly if AVG isn't finding anything, I'd try Avast, and then chalk it up to hardware or some other software issue. Of course, there may be no virus and the 2006 cheap laptop may be dying. If I could figure out some way to put WInXP on a Win7 laptop, that would solve the problem. WinXP is simple compared to Microsofts and Apples later programs. I'm I have actually been very happy with Win7, I even installed it on my kids' computers (which are also from roughly 2006, early P4s). Win7 was faster at transcoding than WinXP on my old media server, and booted so fast that eventually I just switched everything. Of course I also have all the prettification turned off. I haven't really done any maintenance to it since the installation, other than automatic updates on Tuesday. Best, Tim also has a lot of Linux boxes, and is finally going to replace the kids' computers with a new one for Christmas :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 glow light
On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 13:57:17 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: #1's replaced. ATTABOY! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Going Asian
On 12/4/2013 10:12 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: i remember many an hour spent trying to unvirus my windoze computer before i went mac a decade ago . the last thing i need windoze for is the mercedes epc as everyone else has now relented and made themselves useful to other systems. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Buy a mac or load linux? --R (OK that probably isn't too helpful but it will pretty much fix the ongoing issue) On 12/4/13 9:58 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Believe I have a rootkit virus in one of my WinXP computers. Win Defender Offline is supposed to be the most likely way to remove it, and if that doesn't work then reloading WinXP is the only sure method supposedly. Windows has 3 or 4 discussions about Defender Offline, and not one ##$%^$$%#!!! website where it can be downloaded from Microsoft; only various private websites which I've found to be problematic at times. I'm using Win7 which is new to me, so the Windows download site for Win Defender is probably someplace I haven't looked yet. All suggestions welcome. Thanks, Gerry ___ I'm thinking strongly about those two. I bought a refurbished MacBook from Apple but it had some sort of problems, wouldn't load (Snow Leopard?), and the closest Apple Store is about 80 miles; so I gave it to my grand daughter who got it fixed at the Orlando Apple Store and loves it. I would probably go to some version of Linux if I could find one that doesn't come out with a new format every time you turn around like Ubuntu does. All I want to do with a computer is email, search, read various news programs, and have handy files for storing emails. Modern OS's seem to have gone the way of modern cars; too much complexity. Gerry ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 glow light
Thanks, but it ain't over yet. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 glow light On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 13:57:17 -0500 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: #1's replaced. ATTABOY! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More
Don't forget the ground strap between the engine and the chassis - it needs clean and tight connections on both ends. On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: usually slow cranking has meant a weak battery for me On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I would agree. If the starter is cranking slowly, it's almost always an indication of a poor connection, cable or battery. It either works or it doesn't. Dan On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I guess the starter or solenoid could have just gotten tired... The solenoid either works or doesn't. If the starter turns the engine at all, then the solenoid is fine. Poor connections to the starter could cause poor performance. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of roger...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 9:31 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More Jaime, etc., Because of the slow cranking, I'm starting to lean away from the glow system. The relay fuse did look good when I checked it as well as the wiring contacts inside the box. Are there any connections I'm not seeing that could cause slow cranking? I just had the alternator replaced about 2-3 months ago because it killed the old battery and put in a new battery as well. It was starting ok, then now it won't. I guess the starter or solenoid could have just gotten tired also, or there could be a wire somewhere not providing a good solid connection. I'll try to get under it again and look at the starter connections later this afternoon if the rain holds off. Thanks guys, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Going Asian
On 12/5/2013 4:01 PM, Tim Crone wrote: On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I have regular Malwarebytes and AVG which turned up nothing, but a local newspaper columnist who is usually right about computer problems says that some rootkit viruses are undetectable and that their presence has to be detected by what they do to your software such as blocking the use of email clients, CD uploads and downloads, and several other functions. Microsoft addressed this problem by creating Win Defender Offline. The older MS downloads will not be reliable against new threats anyway. Frankly if AVG isn't finding anything, I'd try Avast, and then chalk it up to hardware or some other software issue. Of course, there may be no virus and the 2006 cheap laptop may be dying. If I could figure out some way to put WInXP on a Win7 laptop, that would solve the problem. WinXP is simple compared to Microsofts and Apples later programs. I'm I have actually been very happy with Win7, I even installed it on my kids' computers (which are also from roughly 2006, early P4s). Win7 was faster at transcoding than WinXP on my old media server, and booted so fast that eventually I just switched everything. Of course I also have all the prettification turned off. I haven't really done any maintenance to it since the installation, other than automatic updates on Tuesday. Best, Tim also has a lot of Linux boxes, and is finally going to replace the kids' computers with a new one for Christmas :) ___ I could learn Win7 but how long is MS going to support it? All the new laptops have Win 8.1, so I might as well learn it.? Gerrywho is a slow learner when it comes to computer OS's ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Computer Operating Systems [was Re: Going Asian]
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:37:00 -0500 arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Buy a mac or load linux? I'm thinking strongly about those two. I bought a refurbished MacBook from Apple but it had some sort of problems, wouldn't load (Snow Leopard?), and the closest Apple Store is about 80 miles; so I gave it to my grand daughter who got it fixed at the Orlando Apple Store and loves it. I would probably go to some version of Linux if I could find one that doesn't come out with a new format every time you turn around like Ubuntu does. All I want to do with a computer is email, search, read various news programs, and have handy files for storing emails. Modern OS's seem to have gone the way of modern cars; too much complexity. Gerry Check out CentOS (Community Enterprise Operating System). Its focus it to remain stable for a long time, like what large companies need, and not to be changing every time you turn around. www.centos.org CentOS is an Enterprise-class Linux Distribution derived from sources freely provided to the public by a prominent North American Enterprise Linux vendor. CentOS conforms fully with the upstream vendor's redistribution policy and aims to be 100% binary compatible. (CentOS mainly changes packages to remove upstream vendor branding and artwork.) CentOS is free. CentOS is developed by a small but growing team of core developers. In turn the core developers are supported by an active user community including system administrators, network administrators, enterprise users, managers, core Linux contributors and Linux enthusiasts from around the world. CentOS has numerous advantages over some of the other clone projects including: an active and growing user community, quickly rebuilt, tested, and QA'ed errata packages, an extensive mirror network, developers who are contactable and responsive, multiple free support avenues including IRC Chat, Mailing Lists, Forums, a dynamic FAQ. The upstream vendor is Red Hat Enterprise Linux (not free). The do keep putting out security updates. These don't affect form, fit, or function. I have been running it for several years. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More
Or a dying starter. When they get old, the resistance goes high in the winding and they draw amazing amounts of current without turning fast enough. Normal draw is around 900 amps. Bad starter will draw 2000 and still not turn fast enough to start the engine. Minimum engine speed is 100 rpm, if it appears to be turning slowly you have a bad starter or a discharged battery. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] (no subject)
I was going to make a snide comment about how hard it is to find that show to watch online but it appears to be on Youtube, maybe even legally... I'm still in season 3, guess I better get watching! -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 10:58:46 -0800 (PST) From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] (no subject) Message-ID: 1386269926.9461.yahoomail...@web141001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt, et al. Ice Pilots NWT S05E07. The Canadian Arctic Rangers, mostly Inuit, are using a good old Coleman stove similar to the ones you bring to ChowdahQ. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Get caught up so you can add an Inuit flavor to the ChowdahQ. I was going to make a snide comment about how hard it is to find that show to watch online but it appears to be on Youtube, maybe even legally... I'm still in season 3, guess I better get watching! -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 10:58:46 -0800 (PST) From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] (no subject) Message-ID: 1386269926.9461.yahoomail...@web141001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt, et al. Ice Pilots NWT S05E07. The Canadian Arctic Rangers, mostly Inuit, are using a good old Coleman stove similar to the ones you bring to ChowdahQ. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 617 Glow Plugs and More
First thing to check is the ground cable on the battery. Remove the battery end and clean it up with a wire brush. Also clean up the terminal on the battery. Then disconnect the other end of the ground cable where it connects to the chassis. Clean both the chassis and the terminal on the end of the cable with sand paper or whatever you have until its shiny. Also inspect the cable itself. Any breaks in the insulation, bulging, or visible corrosion might indicate a bad cable. This alone might make a big difference. You can also check both ends of the ground strap to the engine... I forget where it is on a 300SD, but this will be a dirtier and more difficult job. How slow are we talking about here regarding the cranking? I'm still thinking you have glow issues. A good cheap way to see if the glow plugs are doing anything is by watching the interior light. Turn on the light, then switch the key to the accessory position. Watch the light carefully and switch the key to on to star the glow plugs. The light should dim somewhat. If it doesn't, your glow plugs aren't working. Did you get a volt meter yet? This one looks super cheap and reasonably effective: http://www.amazon.com/INNOVA-3300-Hands-free-Digital-Multimeter/dp/B001O1X65A/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8qid=1386293969sr=8-4keywords=voltmeter Jaime On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:31 PM, roger...@comcast.net wrote: Jaime, etc., Because of the slow cranking, I'm starting to lean away from the glow system. The relay fuse did look good when I checked it as well as the wiring contacts inside the box. Are there any connections I'm not seeing that could cause slow cranking? I just had the alternator replaced about 2-3 months ago because it killed the old battery and put in a new battery as well. It was starting ok, then now it won't. I guess the starter or solenoid could have just gotten tired also, or there could be a wire somewhere not providing a good solid connection. I'll try to get under it again and look at the starter connections later this afternoon if the rain holds off. Thanks guys, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] iOS Mercedes
Since we're already selling 2014 models, I don't think so! What makes you think this is going to happen? Jaime On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Jaime, Without revealing any secrets, does it look like iOS will be deployed in the 2014 model year? MacDan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] iOS Mercedes
Let's just say someone from the Mothership mentioned it to me. Maybe that was supposed to be 2015 models. MacDan On Dec 5, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Since we're already selling 2014 models, I don't think so! What makes you think this is going to happen? Jaime On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Jaime, Without revealing any secrets, does it look like iOS will be deployed in the 2014 model year? MacDan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] iOS Mercedes
Maybe this will answer your question: http://readwrite.com/2013/11/22/ios-car-challenges#awesm=~opcysiqRff8JM8 I can't say much about whats going on here in a public forum, of course. Have a mentioned how great the new W222 is (now available at your local dealer?!)? I've kept my mouth shut about it for years now, but now its out for the world to see :-) Jaime On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Let's just say someone from the Mothership mentioned it to me. Maybe that was supposed to be 2015 models. MacDan On Dec 5, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Since we're already selling 2014 models, I don't think so! What makes you think this is going to happen? Jaime On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Jaime, Without revealing any secrets, does it look like iOS will be deployed in the 2014 model year? MacDan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] iOS Mercedes
Anything newer than a 140 is a pile of crap Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe this will answer your question: http://readwrite.com/2013/11/22/ios-car-challenges#awesm=~opcysiqRff8JM8 I can't say much about whats going on here in a public forum, of course. Have a mentioned how great the new W222 is (now available at your local dealer?!)? I've kept my mouth shut about it for years now, but now its out for the world to see :-) Jaime On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Let's just say someone from the Mothership mentioned it to me. Maybe that was supposed to be 2015 models. MacDan On Dec 5, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Since we're already selling 2014 models, I don't think so! What makes you think this is going to happen? Jaime On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Jaime, Without revealing any secrets, does it look like iOS will be deployed in the 2014 model year? MacDan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Computer Operating Systems [was Re: Going Asian]
On 12/5/2013 5:46 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:37:00 -0500 arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Buy a mac or load linux? I'm thinking strongly about those two. I bought a refurbished MacBook from Apple but it had some sort of problems, wouldn't load (Snow Leopard?), and the closest Apple Store is about 80 miles; so I gave it to my grand daughter who got it fixed at the Orlando Apple Store and loves it. I would probably go to some version of Linux if I could find one that doesn't come out with a new format every time you turn around like Ubuntu does. All I want to do with a computer is email, search, read various news programs, and have handy files for storing emails. Modern OS's seem to have gone the way of modern cars; too much complexity. Gerry Check out CentOS (Community Enterprise Operating System). Its focus it to remain stable for a long time, like what large companies need, and not to be changing every time you turn around. www.centos.org CentOS is an Enterprise-class Linux Distribution derived from sources freely provided to the public by a prominent North American Enterprise Linux vendor. CentOS conforms fully with the upstream vendor's redistribution policy and aims to be 100% binary compatible. (CentOS mainly changes packages to remove upstream vendor branding and artwork.) CentOS is free. CentOS is developed by a small but growing team of core developers. In turn the core developers are supported by an active user community including system administrators, network administrators, enterprise users, managers, core Linux contributors and Linux enthusiasts from around the world. CentOS has numerous advantages over some of the other clone projects including: an active and growing user community, quickly rebuilt, tested, and QA'ed errata packages, an extensive mirror network, developers who are contactable and responsive, multiple free support avenues including IRC Chat, Mailing Lists, Forums, a dynamic FAQ. The upstream vendor is Red Hat Enterprise Linux (not free). The do keep putting out security updates. These don't affect form, fit, or function. I have been running it for several years. Craig ___ Sounds interesting. I'll try it. Thanks,Craig. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Computer Operating Systems [was Re: Going Asian]
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 21:35:56 -0500 arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: On 12/5/2013 5:46 PM, Craig wrote: www.centos.org Sounds interesting. I'll try it. Thanks,Craig. Gerry To try it out easily, they have CentOS-6.5-x86_64-LiveCD.iso This is a CD live image of CentOS 6.5 designed to be burned onto a CD. You then boot your computer using that CD. Please read http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSLiveCD6.5 for more details about this image. The disk can also be used to install CentOS 6.5 onto your computer but without offering any package selection options at install time. CentOS-6.5-x86_64-LiveDVD.iso This is a DVD live image of CentOS 6.5 designed to be burned onto a DVD. You then boot your computer using that DVD. Please read http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSLiveDVD6.5 for more details about this image. The disk can also be used to install CentOS 6.5 onto your computer but without offering any package selection options at install time. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] iOS Mercedes
If by newer than a 140 you mean a 210, and by crap you mean ferric oxide, amen! -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 5, 2013, at 21:18, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Anything newer than a 140 is a pile of crap Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2013, at 7:55 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe this will answer your question: http://readwrite.com/2013/11/22/ios-car-challenges#awesm=~opcysiqRff8JM8 I can't say much about whats going on here in a public forum, of course. Have a mentioned how great the new W222 is (now available at your local dealer?!)? I've kept my mouth shut about it for years now, but now its out for the world to see :-) Jaime On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Let's just say someone from the Mothership mentioned it to me. Maybe that was supposed to be 2015 models. MacDan On Dec 5, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Since we're already selling 2014 models, I don't think so! What makes you think this is going to happen? Jaime On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Jaime, Without revealing any secrets, does it look like iOS will be deployed in the 2014 model year? MacDan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs?
aluminum in salt air??? Bleech. White rust galore! -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 3, 2013, at 14:26, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: poor old bicycle lives outside right next to salt water :( i think my next going shopping bicycle will be built out of aluminum On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You could wire up a glow plug light on your bicycle easily enough... -Curt Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 22:09:51 -0500 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is difference in 617 Diesel Glow Plugs? Message-ID: CACioK3uBYXnnCvhrDkxQnmyDiM2S+jhjr_NHhm32-gw=_8b...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i still miss the manually controlled glow plug setup ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Naval humor
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[MBZ] happy hunting
#1 boy's w140 is having minor issues. Fan clutch may be messed up. Lots of rattles and clanks from that area. Standard door lock vac failure, radio dead, biodegraded wire harness. As luck would have it, a local scrap yard that also operates a PnP got a new w140 in. So, I had #1 boy drive me up there and we spent a few hours scouring it. I was really there attempting to snag a SLC instrument cluster, but the steering wheel was frozen hard. Anyway, we got all the parts he needed and a few more that could be useful. Had it not been so cold out, we might have made off with more. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Computer Operating Systems [was Re: Going Asian]
On 12/5/2013 10:46 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 21:35:56 -0500 arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: On 12/5/2013 5:46 PM, Craig wrote: www.centos.org Sounds interesting. I'll try it. Thanks,Craig. Gerry To try it out easily, they have CentOS-6.5-x86_64-LiveCD.iso This is a CD live image of CentOS 6.5 designed to be burned onto a CD. You then boot your computer using that CD. Please read http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSLiveCD6.5 for more details about this image. The disk can also be used to install CentOS 6.5 onto your computer but without offering any package selection options at install time. CentOS-6.5-x86_64-LiveDVD.iso This is a DVD live image of CentOS 6.5 designed to be burned onto a DVD. You then boot your computer using that DVD. Please read http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSLiveDVD6.5 for more details about this image. The disk can also be used to install CentOS 6.5 onto your computer but without offering any package selection options at install time. Craig ___ Thanks. Having it on a disk will be a big advantage for a number of reasons as is having the release notes in advance. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
