Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty
Did they drive a dark blue SD on Rogers to get there? I was driving the invisible van to take the children someplace and noticed there was an alien on the road. (Is it bad that, after living here 5 months, I only know 30% of the neighbors, but I recognize all the local adult European cars?) Anyway hope everything is healing nicely, congrats on the graduation, and I hope you have a pleasant trip home. :) Best, Tim On Dec 14, 2013 11:06 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: So the girl and Dr. Mom went to the UNC ER last night @ 8:30PM and got back @ 6AM after finally getting the alternator laceration stitched up by the 3rd doc to deal with it. The first, an intern, was lost, the second, a resident cleaned it up, and finally a real doc came and stitched it. 9.5 hours. Cheapchineechit casualty. Happy graduation evening! #drugs --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
Good morning snow! I think there’s 8-10” now, and it’s still snowing. That timber frame barn structure my neighbor is putting up looks awfully pretty in all this snow! On Dec 14, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: We're holding about about 18F here in historic Washington Valley, NJ... a few inches fell through the day and it picked up in the last few hours. Change over to ice is expected as warm up comes up from the south but surface temps stay cold. The John Deere 318 is in the garage between the cars with plow, weights and chains mounted and ready to go for tomorrow morning. Fire burning... the little guy is asleep... Vin Scelsa on the radio... all is well. Good luck up there, Jaime On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 8:38 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Lovely. Perfect conditions to build. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Well, here in Brunswick, they are saying 12-16”, but it’ll be light and fluffy as the temps will not be out of the teens. I hate shoveling Margarita’s!!! Jon On Dec 14, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good. Down here on the coast we are only supposed to get 3-6. Wings stout sound good. The 300CD is under a car cover but where any tree can fall on like last February's blizzard. Dwight On Dec 14, 2013 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: In case you hadn't heard this year's storm of the century is bearing down on New England. The National Weather Service says 6-10 tonight and another 1-2 tomorrow. In preparation I finished my Christmas shopping. Since I was at a sporting goods store anyway (Angie wanted socks) I picked up one of those hiking meals Spaghetti and Meatballs as a joke for Angie tonight. I also stopped at the grocery store, laughed at all the carts overflowing with food. I picked up: 2.5# chicken wings chicken wing sauce 1 bottle Sam Adams Gingerbread Stout 1 bottle Woodstock Inn Oatmeal Stout I was hoping for BBC Coffee Porter but alas... I think I'll go fuel up the Jetta (520 miles and its just under 1/4) and get some mix gas for the generator/snowmobile and plain gas for the snowblower/tractor, the gas I have is all old... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] removing Bleed Valves my4uje5u
I'm not sure about Crescent, but Vice Grip became Irwin Vice Grip, and about five years ago moved the tooling from Nebraska to China. Supposedly they're still the same thing, but one wonders if the steel and heat treating are still top grade. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26531610/ Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations my4uje5u
Jon Agne wrote: Good morning snow! I think there’s 8-10” now, and it’s still snowing. That timber frame barn structure my neighbor is putting up looks awfully pretty in all this snow! And here I was thinking that it was a PITA driving to FNT and back in 4 of snow that became 7 while I was gone. Had no real trouble driving 55-60 on the freeway in the S210 4matic, but marveled at the number of fwd Pontiacs (mostly Grand Ams and G6s) flying by at 70+. Could sort of see two strips of concrete in the right lane most of the way, the longer I drove the more pronounced the ridges between the lanes got, until changing lanes to pass made me quite nervous. Surface streets in Flint were downright atrocious, had to plan ahead to stop from 15mph. Mitch. PS: Kleb, can you do something about the spam blocker blocking all my messages? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Kaleb's Next W140
Go for it! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-Base-Sedan-4-Door-1995-mercedes-benz-s-600-base-sedan-4-door-6-0-l-armored-/181281529128?forcerrptr=truehash=item2a35389d28item=181281529128pt=US_Cars_Trucks Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty
No it was the ivory Mamabenz SD with the new alternator. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: Did they drive a dark blue SD on Rogers to get there? I was driving the invisible van to take the children someplace and noticed there was an alien on the road. (Is it bad that, after living here 5 months, I only know 30% of the neighbors, but I recognize all the local adult European cars?) Anyway hope everything is healing nicely, congrats on the graduation, and I hope you have a pleasant trip home. :) Best, Tim On Dec 14, 2013 11:06 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: So the girl and Dr. Mom went to the UNC ER last night @ 8:30PM and got back @ 6AM after finally getting the alternator laceration stitched up by the 3rd doc to deal with it. The first, an intern, was lost, the second, a resident cleaned it up, and finally a real doc came and stitched it. 9.5 hours. Cheapchineechit casualty. Happy graduation evening! #drugs --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
Dimitri will be happy to know that his drive has been cleared! On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Good morning snow! I think there’s 8-10” now, and it’s still snowing. That timber frame barn structure my neighbor is putting up looks awfully pretty in all this snow! On Dec 14, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: We're holding about about 18F here in historic Washington Valley, NJ... a few inches fell through the day and it picked up in the last few hours. Change over to ice is expected as warm up comes up from the south but surface temps stay cold. The John Deere 318 is in the garage between the cars with plow, weights and chains mounted and ready to go for tomorrow morning. Fire burning... the little guy is asleep... Vin Scelsa on the radio... all is well. Good luck up there, Jaime On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 8:38 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Lovely. Perfect conditions to build. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Well, here in Brunswick, they are saying 12-16”, but it’ll be light and fluffy as the temps will not be out of the teens. I hate shoveling Margarita’s!!! Jon On Dec 14, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good. Down here on the coast we are only supposed to get 3-6. Wings stout sound good. The 300CD is under a car cover but where any tree can fall on like last February's blizzard. Dwight On Dec 14, 2013 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: In case you hadn't heard this year's storm of the century is bearing down on New England. The National Weather Service says 6-10 tonight and another 1-2 tomorrow. In preparation I finished my Christmas shopping. Since I was at a sporting goods store anyway (Angie wanted socks) I picked up one of those hiking meals Spaghetti and Meatballs as a joke for Angie tonight. I also stopped at the grocery store, laughed at all the carts overflowing with food. I picked up: 2.5# chicken wings chicken wing sauce 1 bottle Sam Adams Gingerbread Stout 1 bottle Woodstock Inn Oatmeal Stout I was hoping for BBC Coffee Porter but alas... I think I'll go fuel up the Jetta (520 miles and its just under 1/4) and get some mix gas for the generator/snowmobile and plain gas for the snowblower/tractor, the gas I have is all old... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
I thought he was going to be over there building in the snow. On Dec 15, 2013 12:15 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri will be happy to know that his drive has been cleared! On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Good morning snow! I think there’s 8-10” now, and it’s still snowing. That timber frame barn structure my neighbor is putting up looks awfully pretty in all this snow! On Dec 14, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: We're holding about about 18F here in historic Washington Valley, NJ... a few inches fell through the day and it picked up in the last few hours. Change over to ice is expected as warm up comes up from the south but surface temps stay cold. The John Deere 318 is in the garage between the cars with plow, weights and chains mounted and ready to go for tomorrow morning. Fire burning... the little guy is asleep... Vin Scelsa on the radio... all is well. Good luck up there, Jaime On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 8:38 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Lovely. Perfect conditions to build. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Well, here in Brunswick, they are saying 12-16”, but it’ll be light and fluffy as the temps will not be out of the teens. I hate shoveling Margarita’s!!! Jon On Dec 14, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good. Down here on the coast we are only supposed to get 3-6. Wings stout sound good. The 300CD is under a car cover but where any tree can fall on like last February's blizzard. Dwight On Dec 14, 2013 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: In case you hadn't heard this year's storm of the century is bearing down on New England. The National Weather Service says 6-10 tonight and another 1-2 tomorrow. In preparation I finished my Christmas shopping. Since I was at a sporting goods store anyway (Angie wanted socks) I picked up one of those hiking meals Spaghetti and Meatballs as a joke for Angie tonight. I also stopped at the grocery store, laughed at all the carts overflowing with food. I picked up: 2.5# chicken wings chicken wing sauce 1 bottle Sam Adams Gingerbread Stout 1 bottle Woodstock Inn Oatmeal Stout I was hoping for BBC Coffee Porter but alas... I think I'll go fuel up the Jetta (520 miles and its just under 1/4) and get some mix gas for the generator/snowmobile and plain gas for the snowblower/tractor, the gas I have is all old... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
The only thing he’ll be building today is snow forts or igloos…… On Dec 15, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: I thought he was going to be over there building in the snow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Puffy Shirt Fun
Used my alias email account to make an inquiry on an R129 at a dealer down in Sarasota. Nice car, good history, low miles, reasonable price. I asked about dealer fees and if I could have a PPI done at MB of Sarasota. Our fees are 6% Taxes, Tag Fee and $599 Dealer Fee. You are welcome to take the Mercedes to have an Inspection before your purchase but keep in mind as you know they are in business to make money so they will suggest that you do much more than you have to do. Hmm. So you're not? My reply: Thanks for the offer, Peter, but in my opinion anyone who buys a used car without a pre-purchase inspection is a fool, as are those who pay dealer fees. I'll continue to look elsewhere. Good luck with the sale. Now he gets conciliatory: I would like for you to have the vehicle inspected by your mechanic and unfortunately all dealers have a dealer fee. Please reconsider and I will work with you on the price to overcome the dealer fee. Allow me to earn your business, Asshat. reminds me why I hate dealers. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
Jon, Oldtimers has struck. Refresh my memory. Where is here? Scott (Kittrell NC) -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jon Agne Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preparations Good morning snow! I think there's 8-10 now, and it's still snowing. That timber frame barn structure my neighbor is putting up looks awfully pretty in all this snow! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Puffy Shirt Fun
Yep, me, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List ban...@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:53 PM Subject: [MBZ] Puffy Shirt Fun Used my alias email account to make an inquiry on an R129 at a dealer down in Sarasota. Nice car, good history, low miles, reasonable price. I asked about dealer fees and if I could have a PPI done at MB of Sarasota. Our fees are 6% Taxes, Tag Fee and $599 Dealer Fee. You are welcome to take the Mercedes to have an Inspection before your purchase but keep in mind as you know they are in business to make money so they will suggest that you do much more than you have to do. Hmm. So you're not? My reply: Thanks for the offer, Peter, but in my opinion anyone who buys a used car without a pre-purchase inspection is a fool, as are those who pay dealer fees. I'll continue to look elsewhere. Good luck with the sale. Now he gets conciliatory: I would like for you to have the vehicle inspected by your mechanic and unfortunately all dealers have a dealer fee. Please reconsider and I will work with you on the price to overcome the dealer fee. Allow me to earn your business, Asshat. reminds me why I hate dealers. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
Wow. Thank you!! Now that's a good neighbor! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Dimitri will be happy to know that his drive has been cleared! On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Good morning snow! I think there’s 8-10” now, and it’s still snowing. That timber frame barn structure my neighbor is putting up looks awfully pretty in all this snow! On Dec 14, 2013, at 9:02 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: We're holding about about 18F here in historic Washington Valley, NJ... a few inches fell through the day and it picked up in the last few hours. Change over to ice is expected as warm up comes up from the south but surface temps stay cold. The John Deere 318 is in the garage between the cars with plow, weights and chains mounted and ready to go for tomorrow morning. Fire burning... the little guy is asleep... Vin Scelsa on the radio... all is well. Good luck up there, Jaime On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 8:38 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Lovely. Perfect conditions to build. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: Well, here in Brunswick, they are saying 12-16”, but it’ll be light and fluffy as the temps will not be out of the teens. I hate shoveling Margarita’s!!! Jon On Dec 14, 2013, at 4:22 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds good. Down here on the coast we are only supposed to get 3-6. Wings stout sound good. The 300CD is under a car cover but where any tree can fall on like last February's blizzard. Dwight On Dec 14, 2013 2:28 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: In case you hadn't heard this year's storm of the century is bearing down on New England. The National Weather Service says 6-10 tonight and another 1-2 tomorrow. In preparation I finished my Christmas shopping. Since I was at a sporting goods store anyway (Angie wanted socks) I picked up one of those hiking meals Spaghetti and Meatballs as a joke for Angie tonight. I also stopped at the grocery store, laughed at all the carts overflowing with food. I picked up: 2.5# chicken wings chicken wing sauce 1 bottle Sam Adams Gingerbread Stout 1 bottle Woodstock Inn Oatmeal Stout I was hoping for BBC Coffee Porter but alas... I think I'll go fuel up the Jetta (520 miles and its just under 1/4) and get some mix gas for the generator/snowmobile and plain gas for the snowblower/tractor, the gas I have is all old... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
I'll be there tomorrow. Threw out my back this am shoveling wet snow in MA. This is not good. How can I build even snow forts or igloos! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: The only thing he’ll be building today is snow forts or igloos…… On Dec 15, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: I thought he was going to be over there building in the snow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Puffy Shirt Fun
That sounds about the same as what they call doc fees here. Dealers will say they are required by law to charge, they are not. It is a junk fee, pure profit. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Used my alias email account to make an inquiry on an R129 at a dealer down in Sarasota. Nice car, good history, low miles, reasonable price. I asked about dealer fees and if I could have a PPI done at MB of Sarasota. Our fees are 6% Taxes, Tag Fee and $599 Dealer Fee. You are welcome to take the Mercedes to have an Inspection before your purchase but keep in mind as you know they are in business to make money so they will suggest that you do much more than you have to do. Hmm. So you're not? My reply: Thanks for the offer, Peter, but in my opinion anyone who buys a used car without a pre-purchase inspection is a fool, as are those who pay dealer fees. I'll continue to look elsewhere. Good luck with the sale. Now he gets conciliatory: I would like for you to have the vehicle inspected by your mechanic and unfortunately all dealers have a dealer fee. Please reconsider and I will work with you on the price to overcome the dealer fee. Allow me to earn your business, Asshat. reminds me why I hate dealers. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
Ugh. Never mind swing a hammer. On Dec 15, 2013 3:28 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll be there tomorrow. Threw out my back this am shoveling wet snow in MA. This is not good. How can I build even snow forts or igloos! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: The only thing he’ll be building today is snow forts or igloos…… On Dec 15, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: I thought he was going to be over there building in the snow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty
I don't think greed is the problem, exactly. There will always be greedy people. The problem occurs when that greed that is enabled by government enforced monopolies and government suppression of potential competition that enshrines the status quo. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty medical system is broken. all about greed. greed has broken much in this country. the reagan revolution turned out to be something very different than what i believed it to be 30 years ago i had a japanese doctor who'd just fix stuff in the office. but he is dead now so i have sworn off doctors and just fix it myself. let them exploit someone other than me! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty
No it is not greed in particular, it is just that hospitals (or ERs specifically) are just really poorly operated and managed. And why urgent care places close at 8Pm is another mystery. --R On 12/15/13 4:52 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: I don't think greed is the problem, exactly. There will always be greedy people. The problem occurs when that greed that is enabled by government enforced monopolies and government suppression of potential competition that enshrines the status quo. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty medical system is broken. all about greed. greed has broken much in this country. the reagan revolution turned out to be something very different than what i believed it to be 30 years ago i had a japanese doctor who'd just fix stuff in the office. but he is dead now so i have sworn off doctors and just fix it myself. let them exploit someone other than me! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Puffy Shirt Fun my4uje5u
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That sounds about the same as what they call doc fees here. Dealers will say they are required by law to charge, they are not. It is a junk fee, pure profit. If they say that, then it comes under the heading of never do business with somebody who will look you in the eye and lie to you, just like The Patriot Act requires us to run your credit report. BTW, this is the 4th time today a message I sent to these lists has bounced. Can you whitelist my address? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
I'll take a foot of snow over one tornado watch... We ended up with a mere 6 inches of white stuff. It never got over 20F all day so the predicted sleet never arrived. I think a lot of times our weather report isn't tailored for our elevation and area, its just Boston regurgitated and a bit colder. -Curt Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 22:49:54 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preparations Message-ID: cef20196-e732-4ca7-aeb8-a39c9e57a...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I just drove from Chapel Hill back home in VERY heavy rain most of the way, 5 hours. Was 45F there when we left, 67F here at home and tornado watch until 2AM, but not raining here now. Y'all can keep that white stuff. --R (sent from my miniPad) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Puffy Shirt Fun
I hate fees in general, you ever read all the fees when you get a rental car. Some of them are insane Convenience Fee Facility Recovery Fee. Just charge me the dammed price you want to charge and I'll pay it or I'll walk but don't give me a lower price and then tack on a bunch of stupid fees. I'd want $1200 off for the dealer fee before I set foot onsite. -Curt Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 13:53:44 -0500 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com, Banned List ban...@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Puffy Shirt Fun Message-ID: f8c37f5f-f531-41ea-8555-3c12ca0e2...@penoff.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Used my alias email account to make an inquiry on an R129 at a dealer down in Sarasota. Nice car, good history, low miles, reasonable price. I asked about dealer fees and if I could have a PPI done at MB of Sarasota. Our fees are 6% Taxes, Tag Fee and $599 Dealer Fee. You are welcome to take the Mercedes to have an Inspection before your purchase but keep in mind as you know they are in business to make money so they will suggest that you do much more than you have to do. Hmm. So you're not? My reply: Thanks for the offer, Peter, but in my opinion anyone who buys a used car without a pre-purchase inspection is a fool, as are those who pay dealer fees. I'll continue to look elsewhere. Good luck with the sale. Now he gets conciliatory: I would like for you to have the vehicle inspected by your mechanic and unfortunately all dealers have a dealer fee. Please reconsider and I will work with you on the price to overcome the dealer fee. Allow me to earn your business, Asshat. reminds me why I hate dealers. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Puffy Shirt Fun
Whatever they call it, it makes me damned mad. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Puffy Shirt Fun That sounds about the same as what they call doc fees here. Dealers will say they are required by law to charge, they are not. It is a junk fee, pure profit. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2013, at 12:53 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Used my alias email account to make an inquiry on an R129 at a dealer down in Sarasota. Nice car, good history, low miles, reasonable price. I asked about dealer fees and if I could have a PPI done at MB of Sarasota. Our fees are 6% Taxes, Tag Fee and $599 Dealer Fee. You are welcome to take the Mercedes to have an Inspection before your purchase but keep in mind as you know they are in business to make money so they will suggest that you do much more than you have to do. Hmm. So you're not? My reply: Thanks for the offer, Peter, but in my opinion anyone who buys a used car without a pre-purchase inspection is a fool, as are those who pay dealer fees. I'll continue to look elsewhere. Good luck with the sale. Now he gets conciliatory: I would like for you to have the vehicle inspected by your mechanic and unfortunately all dealers have a dealer fee. Please reconsider and I will work with you on the price to overcome the dealer fee. Allow me to earn your business, Asshat. reminds me why I hate dealers. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
That’s why mechanized snow removal equipment is ALWAYS justified in a home budget. Just sayin……. On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:28 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Threw out my back this am shoveling wet snow in MA. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: FYI - Oz gun laws
You think the USA has a nanny government? http://gu.com/p/3y6qkhttp://gu.com/p/3y6qk Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV We few, we happy few. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
Or a season contract with neighborhood kids since I really don't have room for snowblower. On Dec 15, 2013 5:57 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: That’s why mechanized snow removal equipment is ALWAYS justified in a home budget. Just sayin……. On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:28 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Threw out my back this am shoveling wet snow in MA. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - Oz gun laws
Quite interesting how government takes over your personal right to self defense when there is no Second Amendment to start with isn't it? If we can breach the Second Amendment easily, then we should also breach the First Amendment to the right to free speech and peaceful assembly, shouldn't we? A government buyback of all microphones and teleprompters is in order.. in fact, demanded.. Immediately.. as well as closure of all news media and newspapers.. Well? On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:20 PM, David Kristin Gilmore dandkgilm...@frontier.com wrote: You think the USA has a nanny government? http://gu.com/p/3y6qkhttp://gu.com/p/3y6qk Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV We few, we happy few. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
OK - you keep the snow and I'll take the tornado watch -- everyone gets the snow, only a few get worried about the watch, and fewer still impacted by it. People die either way, IF a tornado materializes from that watch. That having been said, the 5.5 we got last week is mostly gone, and didn't do anything to me but make my feet cold while I was out tramping around in it. It did take my SIL 3.5 hrs. to make his 20 min. commute home in OKC the evening it hit though. He wasn't happy. On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll take a foot of snow over one tornado watch... -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: FYI - Oz gun laws
This was on a F. Zakaria special on CNN today . . . when is the U.S. gonna' wake up and stop being afraid of the NRA? http://gu.com/p/3y6qkhttp://gu.com/p/3y6qk G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - Oz gun laws
G. M. Brown wrote: This was on a F. Zakaria special on CNN today . . . when is the U.S. gonna' wake up and stop being afraid of the NRA? http://gu.com/p/3y6qkhttp://gu.com/p/3y6qk Answer: when being markedly less interested in freedom than the NRA results in more people voting for you. Ask three Colorado ex-Senators how that's working for them. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
I see that now. First thing I'm doing tomorrow is buying a snowblower. I need to reliably get to the back of the property now so there is way more than a shovel and my back can handle. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2013, at 5:57 PM, Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net wrote: That’s why mechanized snow removal equipment is ALWAYS justified in a home budget. Just sayin……. On Dec 15, 2013, at 3:28 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Threw out my back this am shoveling wet snow in MA. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
I'll take the snow over tornado watch any day! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:16 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: OK - you keep the snow and I'll take the tornado watch -- everyone gets the snow, only a few get worried about the watch, and fewer still impacted by it. People die either way, IF a tornado materializes from that watch. That having been said, the 5.5 we got last week is mostly gone, and didn't do anything to me but make my feet cold while I was out tramping around in it. It did take my SIL 3.5 hrs. to make his 20 min. commute home in OKC the evening it hit though. He wasn't happy. On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll take a foot of snow over one tornado watch... -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 14:02:22 -0500 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Jon, Oldtimers has struck. Refresh my memory. Where is here? Scott (Kittrell NC) I _think_ he's in Brunswick, Maine. Craig (Los Alamos, NM) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty
Gary wrote: the reagan revolution turned out to be something very different than what i believed it to be 30 years ago Absolutely!! +1 mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
From my limited snow blower experience (moved from Dayton OH to FL Gulf Coast in 1990) I'd advise (1) add stabilizer to the gas and (2) drain the gas tank and float bowl at the end of each season. Mine had a 110v electric starter which worked great but also made it heavier. I sold it with the house to sweeten the deal. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of dsereta...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preparations I see that now. First thing I'm doing tomorrow is buying a snowblower. I need to reliably get to the back of the property now so there is way more than a shovel and my back can handle. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty
Scott wrote: The problem occurs when that greed that is enabled by government enforced monopolies and government suppression of potential competition that enshrines the status quo. Yep. This was clearly expressed in 1840 by Frederic Bastiat - The Law. DuckDuckGo to find it online. Short little book describing this dynamic. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
Thanks. All I can say is BUR! -Original Message- Jon, Oldtimers has struck. Refresh my memory. Where is here? Scott (Kittrell NC) I _think_ he's in Brunswick, Maine. Craig (Los Alamos, NM) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - Oz gun laws
How many of the recent killers with guns were NRA members? Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G. M. Brown Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 7:27 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - Oz gun laws This was on a F. Zakaria special on CNN today . . . when is the U.S. gonna' wake up and stop being afraid of the NRA? http://gu.com/p/3y6qkhttp://gu.com/p/3y6qk G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
I've never thrown my back out watching a tornado go by ;-) On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:53 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll take the snow over tornado watch any day! -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty
Not to say I told you so, but the Reagan Revolution was only a revolution in the same way the engine rotation is a revolution -- the whole idea was to undo the banking regulation and tax system that had protected us from market and banking collapses that happened every couple years before the 1911 Federal Reserve creation and Anti--Trust laws. Obvious then, obvious now, and unregulated capitalism (really unbridled speculation) breeds depressions and currency collapse like cold fronts breed storms. Markets are just people buying and selling, and they don't filter out lies, misrepresentation, or fraud, quite the opposite. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - Oz gun laws
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 19:27:01 -0500 G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: This was on a F. Zakaria special on CNN today . . . when is the U.S. gonna' wake up and stop being afraid of the NRA? http://gu.com/p/3y6qkhttp://gu.com/p/3y6qk The real question should be, When is the U.S. gonna wake up and stop being afraid of the movie producers and media who profit from putting poison in the minds of our youth, telling them, - they came, 'from the swamp to you, by way of the zoo', - there is no reason for them to control their passions, 'Just let it all hang out', - there is no reason for them to build character and work hard to support themselves and their community, - that their world will be safe if they are dependent on someone else and under someone else's control, - that murdering unborn children in the womb is OK, further debasing their own value in their own eyes, - that the United States was not founded on Christian principles by Christian people, - that 'God is dead' and they won't be held eternally accountable for their deeds, - that all men are dumb doofuses, - and lots of other false things ? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
Temps in the 40s here in Vancouver (USA), so no prepping needed. The little snow we had is gone. We love our Vin Scelsa (via WFUV MP3 files from the archive) and fires also though! Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Kopchinski Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:03 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preparations We're holding about about 18F here in historic Washington Valley, NJ... a few inches fell through the day and it picked up in the last few hours. Change over to ice is expected as warm up comes up from the south but surface temps stay cold. The John Deere 318 is in the garage between the cars with plow, weights and chains mounted and ready to go for tomorrow morning. Fire burning... the little guy is asleep... Vin Scelsa on the radio... all is well. Good luck up there, Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Preparations
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 20:11:22 -0600 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:53 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'll take the snow over tornado watch any day! I've never thrown my back out watching a tornado go by ;-) Touché! That said, though, I'd prefer snow to possibility of tornado. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: FYI - Oz gun laws and the US
A little perspective: There are about 30K gun deaths annually in the US, roughly the same as the number of automobile deaths. But about 20K of these gun deaths are suicides. So roughly 10K of the annual gun deaths are accidents or unjustified homicides. Source: http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year To put all that in context, there are about 200K deaths from medical errors in the US annually. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_malpractice Despite greater lethality, almost nobody argues to outlaw cars or doctors. Why? Because they see value in cars and doctors but not in guns. Why? Because (1) they believe what they see on TV; they have never personally been victims of violent crime and (2) they believe the political and economic freedom they experience daily in the US have always been that way and will always be that way, no matter what. This is in spite of the fact that most of the humans on this planet do not enjoy such freedom. The freedoms in the Bill of Rights were not selected at random. Giving in to piecemeal attacks on any these rights is a very slippery slope. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Bilateral Knee Replacement
Thanks Larry. Sorry to hear of your tough experiences with knee replacement! Yes, PT is phasing out. I started with 3X per week and am down to 1X. I should be done with it in a couple of weeks. I have gone from a walker to a cane and actually don't need the cane for walking on level ground. I probably could drive, but SWMBO is my willing chauffeur. I put a thick foam pad on the passenger seat of the Crown Vic to make ingress and egress easier. My plan is to make the recovery easier if a little slower, as long as it does not inhibit complete recovery. My surgeon says that X-rays and all other indicators are good. There is still some pain but usually tolerable. I'll take Tylenol before bed if the pain is costing me sleep. I have a Schwinn 203 exercise bike that has given me good joint flexibility and will help restore my leg muscles. I am already seeing better function at some tasks than before the surgery. It looks so far like I have been lucky with this. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Larry T Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 8:33 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bilateral Knee Replacement Hi Greg - Sorry for the late reply - slowly catching up on my email. I hope your knee replacements are still going well? Ihope the pain has subsided? By now I hope the PT will have helped build up your leg muscles some so walking and driving are becoming easier? My left knee replacement went a little less successfully - the 1st try lasted 53 weeks before it failed - they thought the joint failed so we did another - it failed at 55 weeks. It was damaged also as the xrays indicated and there was concern it would break completely so they removed it and put a antibiotic spacer in while we did tests to see if I was allergic to the adhesive - turned out i was and that's why the 1st 2 failed. about a week after getting the results of the allergy tests the doc found a press-fit joint which he installed immediately. But he wanted me to stay off of it for 6 weeks so the tissue, etc could grow over and onto the new joint. So a total of 8 weeks where I could not put weight on my left leg - it amazed me how quickly I lost muscle in both legs from lack of use! The PT was excellent and I was up and walking quickly but now, about 9 months after that ordeal I still get tired if I spend too much time walking or standing. I'm 63 so 5 years younger than you . FWIW. My prayers are with you - I hope your strength and stamina return quickly - it's no fun to depend on others for even simple tasks. By now, 2 months after your surgery I woud guess you are still receiving pt or possibly phasing out of it? Are you driving yet? that was always a milestone for me because of the freedom it allows. Sincere best wishes for a quick recovery! Sincerely, LarryT 91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] removing Bleeding Valves
I bought a pair of Yankee doodle dandy vicy grips, paid just about twice as much for them than the ones made in the great red factory. And yes probably used some of the plastic money we have to pay for them, it's polymer or something, supposed to last longer and be harder to forge or some such thing. That is the problem, too many people where going down the cheap route and more than likely finding out that they will end up paying more when they go back once or twice to buy another pair of junky ones because they fail when put under a good load. As far as quality goes http://www.directindustry.com/industrial-manufacturer/adjustable-spanner-wrench-85982.html Hendrik who has good set of slip joint pliers made by Fuller On 15/12/13 12:07, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That's why I buy NOS or used when it comes to vice grips. If you haven't already, check out Liberty Tool in Liberty, Maine. That place is dangerous! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 14, 2013, at 7:03 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I was disappointed that Crescent and Vice Grips don't appear to be made in the USA. That said fake Vice grips aren't worth any money. I bought a pair of the needle nose type at TSC last spring and they're worthless. Dad likes to buy cheap Chinese crap but got his comeuppance with a cheap pair of slip joint pliers at camp. Finally bought Channellocks, they'll last forever. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Took Mom car shopping
Thursday was adventure day for me. Mom was told the '90 Camry was too long in the tooth for the toyota boys to bother fixing, sell it to them for $500 and get a new, safe, car. That was Dad's car, and his birthday was 12/13, but he has been underground for more than six months. Hurt Mom's heart to have to let go of his car. She drives a corolla. It was making a noise. She dropped it at the dealer for service and I got to take her out to do test drives. Mother is 84. She is not sure if she it coming or going. She is getting a dog this weekend, but made sure the breeder would take it back if she passed prior to the dog. The new car is for hauling dog around, since she thinks her car would be too small. Really a back up car, for when her car is in the shop. But I scratch my head, since I am usually enlisted to ferry Mom to the service visits. She was afeared that the corolla was on its death bed, since it was making a noise and has 83k on the clock. She has been increasing her budget over the past three weeks from $7k to 20K, and going from a used car to looking at new. Then she gets concerned that she will be pushing up daisies before the end of the 72 month term. New? Used? Lots of cash? Finance? Trade her car? Get rid of all old cars and just use the new one? Is it too small to drive 700 miles to Montana? COME ON! Like I will allow her to drive to see my sister? Not on her life. She lost her own house keys in a five minute exchange with me a few months ago when I gave her back the keys to the Camry. I would chauffeur her in the S430 instead of a rattle trap japanese car on a ten hour trip. Anyway, the first dealer was Hyundai with an Elantra hatchback. Those are some real ricer cars now. All made for the tuner market to put body kits, neon, wings, and rubber band wheels. And what is the deal with putting the window sill at shoulder height? The new compact cars are all egg shaped with horrid visibility. Mom has neck issues and can not swivel her head enough to see a dang thing out the windows. From the exterior it looked like there was a cantaloupe resting at sill level. At least the sales guy was nice and did not pressure her to buy right that moment. He knew he had the car she needed, but Mom was not so sure. Next stop was back to the toyota folks, as they had called mid test drive to let her know the noise was a clogged catastrophic converter. If you drive all of five miles a day in little trips, there is no way the thing can do its job. Give us $159 to fix it now. She decided not just yet. We did look at the Scions. Another ovoid car. Mom hates black interior. All small cars come in black interior. No sight lines. Buckboard seats. Aviation control panels with flashing lights and too many buttons/levers/ switches. The used Honda Fit was sat in, but not started. We left without a test drive. When she got back into her own car, she was happy as a clam. I figured as much. Next visit was to see the Subaru dealer. Dropped my car off at her house and we went in her car. Better to compare what she is currently driving, instead of the dissonance of crawling into a tinfoil and lint built jalopy, from a fine German engineered car. The Subaru rode better, but was the same black and nasty with poor visibility and hard seats. The sales gal pulled all the classic tricks, from snagging the paper work out of the Corolla, to taking moms keys, and being pushy for details and filling out the sales forms. I was less than amused, so told mother that since the car is for hauling a new dog, she should really hold off until said puppy arrived and she was certain she was going to keep it. That did not go down well with the Subaru gal. Got Mom home and pointed out that her car is a fine car and should be able to transport a pooch with no troubles. Get the puppy protecting device at the dealer for $100, then buy a doggy seat belt harness, so the god is well secured and not able to bounce around, slobbering on the driver. Mother seems to think the dog will be quite large. It is a setter and looks a bit small to my eye. Then again, the last setter of that breed we owned was good sized to me. But I was all of nine years old the last time I saw that pooch. As an adult, the dogs are smaller. I shared my adventure with a neighbor over coffee while decorating holiday cookies. His advice was to get her ensconced in a Mercedes. Comfort, visibility, safety, and large enough for a setter to hang out in the back seat. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: FYI - sensible Oz gun laws
I take mild offence at your suggestion that our gun laws are nanny state. Sure we have a ship load of nanny rules but the gun ones are pretty sensible. I am not going to get into an argument about it, as the article pretty much sums up my feelings. Anyway Klebby better email that fella selling the panzer 140 and ask if the gun compartments will fit a desert eagle. Hendrik who does not own a firearm and does not feel the need to, however might if any halfwit could own one On 16/12/13 09:50, David Kristin Gilmore wrote: You think the USA has a nanny government? http://gu.com/p/3y6qkhttp://gu.com/p/3y6qk Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV We few, we happy few. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] removing Bleeding Valves
On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:14:02 +1030 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.directindustry.com/industrial-manufacturer/adjustable-spanner-wrench-85982.html Interesting web site. who has good set of slip joint pliers made by Fuller I have a pair of them, too, but I wouldn't call them good, more like acceptable. On 15/12/13 12:07, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That's why I buy NOS or used when it comes to vice grips. I think you mean vise grips. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Took Mom car shopping
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 20:08:21 -0800 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Thursday was adventure day for me. Sounds like it! Mother is 84. She is not sure if she it coming or going. How was that last sentence supposed to read? She has been increasing her budget over the past three weeks from $7k to 20K, and going from a used car to looking at new. Then she gets concerned that she will be pushing up daisies before the end of the 72 month term. New? Used? Lots of cash? Finance? Trade her car? Get rid of all old cars and just use the new one? Unless someone besides her need a car (and wants what she would choose) new sounds like the wrong choice. Is it too small to drive 700 miles to Montana? COME ON! Like I will allow her to drive to see my sister? Not on her life. I understand that comment! She lost her own house keys in a five minute exchange with me a few months ago when I gave her back the keys to the Camry. Whatever that was all about And what is the deal with putting the window sill at shoulder height? The new compact cars are all egg shaped with horrid visibility. Yuk. I do like the seat/windows designs/arrangements of W115s and W123s; I guess that puts me out of the market for many present choices. Next stop was back to the toyota folks, as they had called mid test drive to let her know the noise was a clogged catastrophic converter. If you drive all of five miles a day in little trips, there is no way the thing can do its job. Give us $159 to fix it now. She decided not just yet. Was it ever fixed? When she got back into her own car, she was happy as a clam. I figured as much. That bodes well. The sales gal pulled all the classic tricks, from snagging the paper work out of the Corolla, to taking moms keys, and being pushy for details and filling out the sales forms. I was less than amused I would have been less than amused, too. And been a little pushy myself. How did she get Mom's keys? My last dealings with a car person were when I visited a Japanese-import dealer in Santa Fe because they had sent us a flier about a contest they had. The guy wanted to ask me about my car situation before going on to the contest. I told him I was driving a '95 Mercedes E320. He said that would need repairs. I said, Not too much. He then said, But it does get expensive when it does need repairs. I said I did my own work and that I had just replaced the water pump mounted on the side of the block and the serpentine belt idler. He understood he wasn't going to get a sale out of me and took me over to the contest area. That was a rip-off, too. Got Mom home and pointed out that her car is a fine car and should be able to transport a pooch with no troubles. Get the puppy protecting device at the dealer for $100, then buy a doggy seat belt harness, so the god is well secured and not able to bounce around, slobbering on the driver. Did she accept that argument? Then again, the last setter of that breed we owned was good sized to me. But I was all of nine years old the last time I saw that pooch. As an adult, the dogs are smaller. When we lived in Colorado in the mid-80s, Shirley and I visited the house in which I lived in Miles City, Montana, when I was 4 - 5. I looked MUCH smaller than I remembered! I shared my adventure with a neighbor over coffee while decorating holiday cookies. His advice was to get her ensconced in a Mercedes. Comfort, visibility, safety, and large enough for a setter to hang out in the back seat. Maybe she needs a 240D! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Took Mom car shopping
On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:08 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Thursday was adventure day for me. Mom was told the '90 Camry was too long in the tooth for the toyota boys to bother fixing, sell it to them for $500 and get a new, safe, car. That was Dad's car, and his birthday was 12/13, but he has been underground for more than six months. Hurt Mom's heart to have to let go of his car. The 89-91 Toyota Camry was the most stolen car in the USA for about a decade. They are dead reliable and 300k miles out of them is normal. They are a soul-less appliance, but a good appliance. Some dealer mechanic is probably driving it. She drives a corolla. What year? How many miles? If she is 84 she has maybe 10-15 more years of driving left, tops. Probably should just keep the Corolla. Especially since she is familiar with it and comfortable driving it. Rick My two cents. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
