Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
Windows, seats, etc., were all hydraulic on the Grosser. No vacuum or electrics. Dan On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:34 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: I seem to remember a 600 LWB sitting at a local indies. It needed a hydraulic master control unit for the drivers door which either raised and lowered the windows or operated the locks; I think it was for the windows, and the reason it was hydraulic was because the conventional system made a noise! The delay in repairing it was because the owner was trying to decide if he wanted to spend $2600.00 for the master control unit which was quite small. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 05:38:45 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Windows, seats, etc., were all hydraulic on the Grosser. No vacuum or electrics. Interesting. What about the ever-present oozing that hydraulic systems tend to do? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What idiot parts out a 87 300td
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: A good share of 'merkuns are ijits. somewhere around half are on the goobermnt dole. Not all them are ijits, but there are probably an equal number of working ijits. You have about a 50/50 chance that the owner of the 300TD, or any car, are ijits. Why are you an ijit if you don't want to put $3,000 into a 25-year-old, expensive to maintain, unreliable car? Strikes me as sensible. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 05:38:45 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Windows, seats, etc., were all hydraulic on the Grosser. No vacuum or electrics. Interesting. What about the ever-present oozing that hydraulic systems tend to do? Heh. I've wondered about that too. Seems like any example in less-than-perfect shape would constantly stink of hydraulic fluid inside and out. All it takes is one bad fitting in the interior and you would have a heck of a cleanup job on the leather and carpets. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] big power
THis vehicle does not have tracks, but is impressive nonetheless. Kinze equipment was started because Jon Kinzenbaw was always looking for ways to accomplish more work in a day. This meant building bigger and better equipment. Kinze was not the first to hook to tractors together, but be built the first 600HP tractor, even before Steiger. Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnzD14163jk This tractor was built for the 1974 farm progress show. Kinze built the first 24 row planter, and has a long list of firsts among the machinery they built. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
Since you have to be an investment banker, despotic leader of a third world nation, or an Arab oil sheik to own one if these, you pay someone to maintain that oozing. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 05:38:45 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Windows, seats, etc., were all hydraulic on the Grosser. No vacuum or electrics. Interesting. What about the ever-present oozing that hydraulic systems tend to do? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
MB uses a mineral based hydraulic oil that is pretty much odorless. Same thing in my SL500 top hydraulics as in the 600. Tastes nasty, though. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 05:38:45 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Windows, seats, etc., were all hydraulic on the Grosser. No vacuum or electrics. Interesting. What about the ever-present oozing that hydraulic systems tend to do? Heh. I've wondered about that too. Seems like any example in less-than-perfect shape would constantly stink of hydraulic fluid inside and out. All it takes is one bad fitting in the interior and you would have a heck of a cleanup job on the leather and carpets. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
That's so you don't mistake it for Stolichnaya. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: MB uses a mineral based hydraulic oil that is pretty much odorless. Same thing in my SL500 top hydraulics as in the 600. Tastes nasty, though. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:48 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 05:38:45 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Windows, seats, etc., were all hydraulic on the Grosser. No vacuum or electrics. Interesting. What about the ever-present oozing that hydraulic systems tend to do? Heh. I've wondered about that too. Seems like any example in less-than-perfect shape would constantly stink of hydraulic fluid inside and out. All it takes is one bad fitting in the interior and you would have a heck of a cleanup job on the leather and carpets. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
First SL500 I looked at had a clear fluid dripping from the right rear fender cavity drain. Hmm. Touch and rub it between fingers. Not greasy or oily. Hmm. Taste. Yuck! That's when I learned that one f the giveaways for certain top hydraulic cylinders leaking is drips out the body drains Dan On Jan 3, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That's so you don't mistake it for Stolichnaya. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: MB uses a mineral based hydraulic oil that is pretty much odorless. Same thing in my SL500 top hydraulics as in the 600. Tastes nasty, though. Dan Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deale6upa7us
Dan Penoff wrote: First SL500 I looked at had a clear fluid dripping from the right rear fender cavity drain. Hmm. Touch and rub it between fingers. Not greasy or oily. Hmm. Taste. Yuck! That's when I learned that one f the giveaways for certain top hydraulic cylinders leaking is drips out the body drains How do you know it isn't brake fluid? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deale6upa7us
Because of where it was dripping from. Noty even close to brake system, and I had already checked the brake system and found nothing leaking (at the wheels). Dan On Jan 3, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: First SL500 I looked at had a clear fluid dripping from the right rear fender cavity drain. Hmm. Touch and rub it between fingers. Not greasy or oily. Hmm. Taste. Yuck! That's when I learned that one f the giveaways for certain top hydraulic cylinders leaking is drips out the body drains How do you know it isn't brake fluid? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 13:06:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Since you have to be an investment banker, despotic leader of a third world nation, or an Arab oil sheik to own one if these, you pay someone to maintain that oozing. I guess that leaves me out :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
Pretty much leaves all of us out... If you're lucky maybe some day you'll learn the secretive M100 handshake. Dan On Jan 3, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 13:06:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Since you have to be an investment banker, despotic leader of a third world nation, or an Arab oil sheik to own one if these, you pay someone to maintain that oozing. I guess that leaves me out :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:55:54 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Pretty much leaves all of us out... If you're lucky maybe some day you'll learn the secretive M100 handshake. I'm not holding my breath. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw:
WTF? The deamons are at it again. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 4:02 PM Subject: New year, new battery. This 0 deg.morning the battery just did not have it to start the olde TD, New Autozone Duralast and back in business. They got expensive! $170 with dying 7 year old Duralast as core. Odd that the 7 year pro rated battery dies after 7 years, whodathunkit? Klatta on! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
When we meet in person I'll show you. Dan On Jan 3, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:55:54 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Pretty much leaves all of us out... If you're lucky maybe some day you'll learn the secretive M100 handshake. I'm not holding my breath. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
On 03/01/2014 2:49 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 13:06:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Since you have to be an investment banker, despotic leader of a third world nation, or an Arab oil sheik to own one if these, you pay someone to maintain that oozing. I guess that leaves me out :-) Craig And if they fail to prevent the oozing, then you just yell off with their head and someone else gets the job. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw:
Maybe they borrowed the 7 year sudden death feature from the CO smoke detectors. I had 5 of them die with in 2 weeks at 7 year mark. Supposed to be 0F or lower here tomorrow. Will see how the 602 fires up with new GP's. On Jan 3, 2014 4:05 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: WTF? The deamons are at it again. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 4:02 PM Subject: New year, new battery. This 0 deg.morning the battery just did not have it to start the olde TD, New Autozone Duralast and back in business. They got expensive! $170 with dying 7 year old Duralast as core. Odd that the 7 year pro rated battery dies after 7 years, whodathunkit? Klatta on! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw:
Dwight. 7 year sw itch? Tomorrow a.m. will try men's souls, or at least the battery's. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Maybe they borrowed the 7 year sudden death feature from the CO smoke detectors. I had 5 of them die with in 2 weeks at 7 year mark. Supposed to be 0F or lower here tomorrow. Will see how the 602 fires up with new GP's. On Jan 3, 2014 4:05 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: WTF? The deamons are at it again. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 4:02 PM Subject: New year, new battery. This 0 deg.morning the battery just did not have it to start the olde TD, New Autozone Duralast and back in business. They got expensive! $170 with dying 7 year old Duralast as core. Odd that the 7 year pro rated battery dies after 7 years, whodathunkit? Klatta on! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
I know about that having owned a m100 in the past Sent from my iPhone On Jan 3, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Pretty much leaves all of us out... If you're lucky maybe some day you'll learn the secretive M100 handshake. Dan On Jan 3, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 13:06:57 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Since you have to be an investment banker, despotic leader of a third world nation, or an Arab oil sheik to own one if these, you pay someone to maintain that oozing. I guess that leaves me out :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
With the recent discussion regarding DOT 4 brake fluid, and all the confusion out there with the DOT 3/4 and synthetics, I decided to just buy a quart of DOT 4 when I was at the dealership today. Not bad, really, when you consider it's for sure the right stuff. $13.20 for a quart. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
we kinda settled the 3/4 and synthetic business so there shouldn't be any confusion anymore. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: With the recent discussion regarding DOT 4 brake fluid, and all the confusion out there with the DOT 3/4 and synthetics, I decided to just buy a quart of DOT 4 when I was at the dealership today. Not bad, really, when you consider it's for sure the right stuff. $13.20 for a quart. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 16:17:29 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: When we meet in person I'll show you. OK. Craig On Jan 3, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Craig wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:55:54 -0500 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Pretty much leaves all of us out... If you're lucky maybe some day you'll learn the secretive M100 handshake. I'm not holding my breath. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 124 kmi '94 E420Oskar 127 kmi (awaiting parting out) '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (diesel leak fixed, I think) Past: '86 190E/2.3 '72 220/8 '64 190Dc Emma '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:52:38 -0600 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: And if they fail to prevent the oozing, then you just yell off with their head and someone else gets the job. An interesting incentive for one's mechanic! Unfortunately, not very enforceable in this day and age. :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw:
Yes Fredn well we will report in . I am tempted to to pull the cover off the CDtest it too with new GP's freshly adjusted valves. As Garrison Keillor says, 'a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.' On Jan 3, 2014 7:01 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Dwight. 7 year sw itch? Tomorrow a.m. will try men's souls, or at least the battery's. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Maybe they borrowed the 7 year sudden death feature from the CO smoke detectors. I had 5 of them die with in 2 weeks at 7 year mark. Supposed to be 0F or lower here tomorrow. Will see how the 602 fires up with new GP's. On Jan 3, 2014 4:05 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: WTF? The deamons are at it again. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. - Forwarded Message - From: Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 4:02 PM Subject: New year, new battery. This 0 deg.morning the battery just did not have it to start the olde TD, New Autozone Duralast and back in business. They got expensive! $170 with dying 7 year old Duralast as core. Odd that the 7 year pro rated battery dies after 7 years, whodathunkit? Klatta on! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
Yeah, but around here it's near impossible to find DOT 4 at FLAPs. The only straight DOT 4 brake fluid I've found around here is made by some company called Ferodo and it's $17/liter. You have to go to a speed shop or someplace like that for anything else. I figure $13/quart at the MB dealer is about the same I would pay elsewhere Plus it comes in the cool gray plastic bottle with the pretty MB label. Looks nice on the shelf. Dan On Jan 3, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: we kinda settled the 3/4 and synthetic business so there shouldn't be any confusion anymore. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
3/4 and 4 is the same thing. it's all straight 4 On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Yeah, but around here it's near impossible to find DOT 4 at FLAPs. The only straight DOT 4 brake fluid I've found around here is made by some company called Ferodo and it's $17/liter. You have to go to a speed shop or someplace like that for anything else. I figure $13/quart at the MB dealer is about the same I would pay elsewhere Plus it comes in the cool gray plastic bottle with the pretty MB label. Looks nice on the shelf. Dan On Jan 3, 2014, at 7:38 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: we kinda settled the 3/4 and synthetic business so there shouldn't be any confusion anymore. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
On Jan 3, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:52:38 -0600 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: And if they fail to prevent the oozing, then you just yell off with their head and someone else gets the job. An interesting incentive for one's mechanic! Unfortunately, not very enforceable in this day and age. :-) That depends on where you live, I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia http://io9.com/5910629/the-practice-of-beheading-is-alive-and-well-today Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
Dan Penoff wrote: If you're lucky maybe some day you'll learn the secretive M100 handshake. Craig wrote: I'm not holding my breath. I understand it to be a handshake with a $100 bill in your palm. Or is it $1,000. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
Shhh!! And it's a $100 bill (only because $1000s are no longer in general circulation.) Dan who has given and received the M100 handshake On Jan 3, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Fmiser wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: If you're lucky maybe some day you'll learn the secretive M100 handshake. Craig wrote: I'm not holding my breath. I understand it to be a handshake with a $100 bill in your palm. Or is it $1,000. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
I use the MB dealer stuff now too. Reasonably priced, and for me at least, very convenient. Jaime On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: With the recent discussion regarding DOT 4 brake fluid, and all the confusion out there with the DOT 3/4 and synthetics, I decided to just buy a quart of DOT 4 when I was at the dealership today. Not bad, really, when you consider it's for sure the right stuff. $13.20 for a quart. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
which is great but it's still DOT 3/4 and synthetic, my point being that those issues are already shown here to be specious by young rick. do you guys read any posts more than 10 words? On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I use the MB dealer stuff now too. Reasonably priced, and for me at least, very convenient. Jaime On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: With the recent discussion regarding DOT 4 brake fluid, and all the confusion out there with the DOT 3/4 and synthetics, I decided to just buy a quart of DOT 4 when I was at the dealership today. Not bad, really, when you consider it's for sure the right stuff. $13.20 for a quart. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
3/4 and 4 is the same thing. it's all straight 4 with no evidence. What we know is the 4 is different from 3, and that the 3/4 is called synthetic, but there is no evidence proving compatibility with older MB brake rubber parts. Nobody is telling that the synthetic is made from. It is essentially some bug juice that has a higher boiling point than the old DOT3 junk, and that boiling point happens to be at least as high as DOT4. But boiling point alone does not prevent it from eating the rubber parts.It may well be compatible, but there is no evidence to demonstrate that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
we kinda settled the 3/4 and synthetic business so there shouldn't be any confusion anymore. THere was no such conclusion. Only anecdotal evidence that one brake system lasted a couple of years with no damage evident yet from the 3/4 stuff. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
On Jan 3, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:52:38 -0600 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: And if they fail to prevent the oozing, then you just yell off with their head and someone else gets the job. An interesting incentive for one's mechanic! Unfortunately, not very enforceable in this day and age. :-) That depends on where you live, I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia http://io9.com/5910629/the-practice-of-beheading-is-alive-and-well-today Rick Sent from my iPhone Yes, this is not a pretty world. In many countries, someone with a 600 could easily end the life of a mechanic (or anybody else) with little or no consequence. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
This sort of explains it http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-270204.html Hendrik who has dot 4 On 04/01/14 13:49, Dieselhead wrote: 3/4 and 4 is the same thing. it's all straight 4 with no evidence. What we know is the 4 is different from 3, and that the 3/4 is called synthetic, but there is no evidence proving compatibility with older MB brake rubber parts. Nobody is telling that the synthetic is made from. It is essentially some bug juice that has a higher boiling point than the old DOT3 junk, and that boiling point happens to be at least as high as DOT4. But boiling point alone does not prevent it from eating the rubber parts. It may well be compatible, but there is no evidence to demonstrate that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Build your own Bitcoin mining machine
Click here to preview auction Bound to be toys that somebody could put to use clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal
Apparently, being fed to dogs is the preferred method in N. Korea now -- http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/01/03/newser-kim-jong-un-uncle-execution/4303319/ To quote an old friend, Never tempt worse. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 3, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:52:38 -0600 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: And if they fail to prevent the oozing, then you just yell off with their head and someone else gets the job. An interesting incentive for one's mechanic! Unfortunately, not very enforceable in this day and age. :-) That depends on where you live, I think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Saudi_Arabia http://io9.com/5910629/the-practice-of-beheading-is-alive-and-well-today Rick Sent from my iPhone Yes, this is not a pretty world. In many countries, someone with a 600 could easily end the life of a mechanic (or anybody else) with little or no consequence. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Build your own Bitcoin mining machine
Where's the beef, uh, link . . . On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:51 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Click here to preview auction Bound to be toys that somebody could put to use clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
This sort of explains it http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-270204.html Hendrik who has dot 4 Thanks Hendrik, a good article, but it does not address the synthetic stuff that provoked this discussion. In the USA, the appearance of this DOT3/4 synthetic stuff has resulted in DOT 4 being discontinued in most places. So, I was glad when I found some quarts of Castrol GT brake fluid (DOT4) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Build your own Bitcoin mining machine
Bitcoin. Does anyone use this? How? The idea seems fascinating. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Build your own Bitcoin mining machine
dang http://murphyauction.com/Auction/Details/563 On Jan 3, 2014, at 7:57 PM, OK Don wrote: Where's the beef, uh, link . . . On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:51 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Click here to preview auction Bound to be toys that somebody could put to use clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Build your own Bitcoin mining machine
Time magazine had an article where one of the editors got one bitcoin to spend on holiday gifts. Around $1200 at the time. Hard to get brick and mortar purchases, but interweb shops worked clay On Jan 3, 2014, at 8:27 PM, Mountain Man wrote: Bitcoin. Does anyone use this? How? The idea seems fascinating. Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid
Last article. I now know more about brake fluid than I really ever wanted. Read this all the way through and you can too. http://www.mossmotors.com/SiteGraphics/Pages/Brake_Fluid/brake_fluid_long.html DOT 3,3/4, 4 brake fluid is glycol based. Adding borates raises the boiling point for DOT4. Being that all of the above mentioned brake fluids are glycol based, they are all also synthetic. I have drawn the conclusion, possibly errant, that DOT 3/4 fluid is actually DOT 4, just labeled as 3/4 to imply that it is reverse compatible with systems that are said to require DOT3 fluid. Toyota has complained about using Dot4 fluid in some of their autos and lists only dot3 as specified for use. I will not be referencing any article on this as no one here probably cares. BTW, Citroën and RR use something entirely different. A very informative article, all in all. Rick Knoble Sent from My Samsung tablet Original message From Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Date: 01/03/2014 9:21 PM (GMT-06:00) To Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject Re: [MBZ] DOT4 Brake Fluid 3/4 and 4 is the same thing. it's all straight 4 with no evidence. What we know is the 4 is different from 3, and that the 3/4 is called synthetic, but there is no evidence proving compatibility with older MB brake rubber parts. Nobody is telling that the synthetic is made from. It is essentially some bug juice that has a higher boiling point than the old DOT3 junk, and that boiling point happens to be at least as high as DOT4. But boiling point alone does not prevent it from eating the rubber parts.It may well be compatible, but there is no evidence to demonstrate that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
