[MBZ] 240D ?
Anyone want to sell a good 81-83 OM616 engine? Or anyone want to buy an 83 240D in need of engine work? In OK. From what I can tell, it sounds like one of the oil cooler hoses broke and pumped the oil out. It may be repairable. Owner pulled over quickly when OP went down and shut down engine. Not mine, etc. etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty
i have no interest in keys. it's a PIA and nobody here would be buying them anyway On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I know this has been asked before but do not remember the result. Are you able to order the regular keys for 126, 124 etc with a copy of title/registration and drivers license? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 240D ?
Which transmission type? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty
I never have time to get to the dealer which is why I would like to order from jabba Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:14 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, got mine at the stealers, $35 (124.193 1987 300TD) Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:49 PM Subject: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty I know this has been asked before but do not remember the result. Are you able to order the regular keys for 126, 124 etc with a copy of title/registration and drivers license? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty
I would Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i have no interest in keys. it's a PIA and nobody here would be buying them anyway On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I know this has been asked before but do not remember the result. Are you able to order the regular keys for 126, 124 etc with a copy of title/registration and drivers license? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty
how much key business can you promise me a year? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I never have time to get to the dealer which is why I would like to order from jabba Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:14 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, got mine at the stealers, $35 (124.193 1987 300TD) Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:49 PM Subject: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty I know this has been asked before but do not remember the result. Are you able to order the regular keys for 126, 124 etc with a copy of title/registration and drivers license? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty
why not just go to the dealer and give them 35 bucks and be done with like fred has done? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I would Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i have no interest in keys. it's a PIA and nobody here would be buying them anyway On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I know this has been asked before but do not remember the result. Are you able to order the regular keys for 126, 124 etc with a copy of title/registration and drivers license? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty
My last key (a blade for the flip style IR key fob) was a whopping $10 from the dealer. It took more time to fill out the stupid paperwork than it did to get the key. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: why not just go to the dealer and give them 35 bucks and be done with like fred has done? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I would Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2014, at 7:54 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: i have no interest in keys. it's a PIA and nobody here would be buying them anyway On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I know this has been asked before but do not remember the result. Are you able to order the regular keys for 126, 124 etc with a copy of title/registration and drivers license? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was used. As late as the (60s?) whale (sperm) oil was used in high performance engines of that era. Castor oil was used in race car engines of the '40s and '50s. I think the popular Offenhauser engines might have required it. You could smell it for blocks when the cars were racing at the Tampa Fairground. On 3/23/2014 8:36 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Okra…didn’t they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cool 96 E300 Diesel is hot
On 3/23/2014 8:02 AM, Mitchell Haley, EA wrote: The way I am reading this you used some sort of penetrator fluid? Would this not cool off the plugs, thus defeating the purpose of the exercise in warming the plugs up to operating temp? I believe the idea was to have the aluminum head hot so that it expanded around the steel plug. I'm not sure how that works, however. Doesn't a hole in an aluminum casting get smaller when you heat the casting? Mitch. . You can drive around the block a few times to heat up a beetle engine. Put a deep socket over a stuck spark plug. Quickly fill the deep socket with oil with a mustard or ketchup squeeze bottle. Very slowly turn the the plug / socket with a wrench. And it will will come out without stripping the threads. Never had to install a helicoil using that method. Very carefully applied powdered graphite to the threads of the new plug (Don't get any near the electrodes.).and never had a stuck plug again. Never had a stuck glow plug, so haven't tried the method there. Either the plug shrinks or the aluminum head expands; not sure which; but it works. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was used. As late as the (60s?) whale (sperm) oil was used in high performance engines of that era. Castor oil was used in race car engines of the '40s and '50s. I think the popular Offenhauser engines might have required it. You could smell it for blocks when the cars were racing at the Tampa Fairground. On 3/23/2014 8:36 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Okra…didn’t they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 240D ?
Which transmission type? -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC Auto trans ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving secretly
When there were a lot of complaints about a member, the list owner was very astute. He would say that he never liked to ban anyone and then he would vote no as one of the moderators when the vote was taken. To this day, he's never been blamed for suspending a member even though he provided the means to do so. I think one moderator of that group; a lady named Marie Laveau in Louisiana, problem did sacrifice a chicken and read its entrails before she voted. There are lots of Californians on that list so some them probably wear cloaks and pointed hats and sacrifice jack rabbits; just like those New Englanders wear cloak and pointed hats and sacrifice witches. Don't know what y'all do in Ozzieland. BTW, I used to enjoy your arguments with Roger (r.i.p.). Both of you were very creative. Gerry On 3/23/2014 1:43 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Ooooh will they get to wear a fancy cloak type things and do funky stuff like sacrifice chickens? http://www.haunted-yorkshire.co.uk/secret%20societies.jpg Hendrik who may well be the first order of business for the secret order On 23/03/14 15:38, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: In order for the list owner to avoid hostility from the people he bans, the list owner privately selects up to fifteen members as moderators whose only function will be to secretly vote on 30 day suspensions. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:
On 24/03/2014 9:01 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Now that diesel is holding solid around 4 dollars a gallon. Buying a diesel is getting harder to monetarily justify. It's kind of ironic we suddenly have more choices. Bob R The TDI may still be a winner at close to 50 mpg as per Curt's experience. Although, I cannot say I know how well a new gas Civic does. might be close. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Son had a couple of those glow plug engines, but I don't think castor oil was used or I would have remembered. That was a very pungent smell. Gerry On 3/25/2014 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was used. As late as the (60s?) whale (sperm) oil was used in high performance engines of that era. Castor oil was used in race car engines of the '40s and '50s. I think the popular Offenhauser engines might have required it. You could smell it for blocks when the cars were racing at the Tampa Fairground. On 3/23/2014 8:36 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Okra…didn’t they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] People are generally holding onto no revolutions
It is not a technicality, it is how the universe works. Torque is a rotational force just like gravity is a linear force. Gravity makes your bags heavy and want to fall down at an increasing velocity. You can hold your bags and feel the force. Torque makes your twisties want to twist at an ever-increasing rotational rate, various physical realities of the processs (friction, etc.) notwithstanding. You can hold your wrench and apply torque to a bolt without it ever moving, at some point it might and if you keep applying that same torque it is going to spin faster and faster. Horsepower is a force x velocity, or torque x rotational rate (i.e., power is a force x a speed). Work is force x distance, it is hard work to force something up a hill no matter how fast you push it. It is hard work to turn (torque) a big wheel that has tight bearings or a big load on it. That concludes your physics lesson for the day. --R On 3/22/14 11:29 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Yeah I can see that but a motor doing 0 rpm is off in my way of thinking. How can torque be produced without revolution. Anyway it's a technicality. Hendrik who is being technical again On 23/03/14 12:23, OK Don wrote: It has max torque to start turning from a stop, then it is turning - got to start somewhere! I suspect this is the reason that locomotives use electric motors to turn the wheels. Of course, it might just work the other way around in your up-side-down metric world :-) On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: huuh how does this work, there can be no torque at zero revolutions. Or was this explained in another one of those classes that I missed? I can understand max torque at 1 rpm. Hendrik who is confused.again On 22/03/14 05:51, Rich Thomas wrote: You don't really need a tranny with an electric, or at most 2 speeds, as the electric motor has max torque at 0 rpm. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
When I was flying radio control airplanes I built a Dallaire Sportser. The wingspan was 9 feet and it flew like a big old kite. I put a size .40 diesel engine in it and used a 16 inch prop. I would take off into the wind and it would be off the ground in about 10 feet. Then you could throttle back and just float around and watch everyone else fly their fast machines. For fuel we used a mixture of JetA (purchased at the local airport) and castor oil. It was a pretty messy fuel and the plane would need to be cleaned up after a day of flying. I am not sure of the mix and it seemed like we used ether as well. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 25, 2014, at 11:39 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Son had a couple of those glow plug engines, but I don't think castor oil was used or I would have remembered. That was a very pungent smell. Gerry On 3/25/2014 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was used. As late as the (60s?) whale (sperm) oil was used in high performance engines of that era. Castor oil was used in race car engines of the '40s and '50s. I think the popular Offenhauser engines might have required it. You could smell it for blocks when the cars were racing at the Tampa Fairground. On 3/23/2014 8:36 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Okra…didn’t they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds
Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:
if i had the coin, i'd get two VW tdi's. a bug convertible and a jetta wagon On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 24/03/2014 9:01 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Now that diesel is holding solid around 4 dollars a gallon. Buying a diesel is getting harder to monetarily justify. It's kind of ironic we suddenly have more choices. Bob R The TDI may still be a winner at close to 50 mpg as per Curt's experience. Although, I cannot say I know how well a new gas Civic does. might be close. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Glow fuel is a mixture if methanol and nitromethane (up to 30%). For two-cycle engines it also includes oil. From Wikipedia: Most model engines require oil to be included with the fuel as a lubricant since the engine has no independent oiling capability. Model engine fuel is typically 8-22% oil, with the higher percentages run in older design two-stroke glow engines that use bushings for the crankshaft bearings. The most commonly used lubricants are castor oil and synthetic oils, and many glow fuels include a mixture of the two. The oils included in glow fuel generally are not burned by the engine, and are expelled out the exhaust of the engine. This also helps the engine dissipate heat, as the oil emitted is generally hot. So for us oldsters (pre synthetics) the distinct aroma was caster oil. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] People are generally holding on
And wind. We have wind, that the water people are mad about, since it makes hydro electrons less expensive and floods the grid with non salmon killing goodness clay On Mar 22, 2014, at 11:25 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Most electricity is still generated from coal. In my State, it's something like 90% hydroelectric. I believe Tesla's web site covers this, State-by-State. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT Monster Bike (sorta)
http://gizmodo.com/this-monster-truck-trike-will-stop-you-from-sinking-on-1551228541 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] List Destruction
+1 Cage match on Banned!! clay On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well if Gary and the crew would fight it out on banned, they could all have at it all they want and we would get a good show. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: Of which you are a member of as well. Yep. But I read more here. And I despise the downfall of banned. banned originally was never boring banned is currently dead - totally look to society to understand why - too numerous to fully enumerate but much of what is around us every day is why banned is gone. i guess the largest reason in my mind is the failure to accept diversity, even with the supposed implementation of civil rights. pc is the way - total boring. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Monster Bike (sorta)
I was thinking about Gary's lament about not being able to ride on the beach the other day when I saw this. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://gizmodo.com/this-monster-truck-trike-will-stop-you-from-sinking-on-1551228541 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
yes, the little cox engine for the plane on a string. how easily pleased we were back in the day! On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was used. As late as the (60s?) whale (sperm) oil was used in high performance engines of that era. Castor oil was used in race car engines of the '40s and '50s. I think the popular Offenhauser engines might have required it. You could smell it for blocks when the cars were racing at the Tampa Fairground. On 3/23/2014 8:36 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Okra...didn't they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] spade key no workee
Just for shats giggles, I, for the first time since buying the car 4 yrs ago, put the spade key in the door instead of using electronic ingress as usual. It fit but gave no inkling of turning / unlocking the car. I confess testing the physical key in the door didn't occur to me @ time of sale. Is it possible that, the tumbler had filled with crud after not being penetrated in god knows how long (it was 10 yrs old when I bought it in 2009 and may never have been tested for all I know), or that the key / tumbler combo was a mismatch from the getgo? I don't want to go around wantonly spraying WD40 everywhere and really mess things up. I am nervous in that I am one dead wristwatch battery away from being permanently locked out of my car. 99 E 320 DBV, information minister. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
That sounds like the kind of model flying I would prefer to do, Mike. Never cared for flying the smaller models. The large deed restricted community where I live provides a field and a club for model flying, but they won't allow anything but battery operated models. Friend in Tallahassee who flew all his life; singles, twins, gliders, seaplanes, etc. got into electric model flying after he got too old to pass the physical. He had electric planes with cameras sending video back. Gerry On 3/25/2014 1:43 PM, Mike Esh wrote: When I was flying radio control airplanes I built a Dallaire Sportser. The wingspan was 9 feet and it flew like a big old kite. I put a size .40 diesel engine in it and used a 16 inch prop. I would take off into the wind and it would be off the ground in about 10 feet. Then you could throttle back and just float around and watch everyone else fly their fast machines. For fuel we used a mixture of JetA (purchased at the local airport) and castor oil. It was a pretty messy fuel and the plane would need to be cleaned up after a day of flying. I am not sure of the mix and it seemed like we used ether as well. Michael E. Esh me...@horizonenv.com michael...@mac.com http://www.yugster.com/invite/138123 (C) 231.286.2344 On Mar 25, 2014, at 11:39 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Son had a couple of those glow plug engines, but I don't think castor oil was used or I would have remembered. That was a very pungent smell. Gerry On 3/25/2014 10:41 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! Hadn't heard that before. Seem to remember that castor oil and whale oil was used. As late as the (60s?) whale (sperm) oil was used in high performance engines of that era. Castor oil was used in race car engines of the '40s and '50s. I think the popular Offenhauser engines might have required it. You could smell it for blocks when the cars were racing at the Tampa Fairground. On 3/23/2014 8:36 AM, Jon Agne wrote: Okra…didn’t they grind that stuff up in WWI and use it to lube airplane engines? On Mar 23, 2014, at 8:27 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Slimeless okra? No problem. Find a well respected Southern cook or go to a real Southern restaurant. You'll be asking for more. Barkless dog? How about a basenji? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basenji On 3/22/2014 9:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Cherry without a stone? Easy. They are the most desirable of cherries but you can have only one at a time. [:o) Gerry Slimeless okra? That's like a barkless dog, a cherry w/o a stone,.. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 9:13 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Our okra is not very slippery - start it in a frying pan with a bit of EVOO and the lid on. After is starts to get soft, take the lid off and let it dry out some. Nicely cooked okra, no slime. On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: I have been eating okra lately. Not quite oil, but... okra is quite like oil. It occurred to me that okra might substitute for decent personal lubricant? since it is sooo slippery. Okra lube does not work for heat situations, but it certainly is slippery and green for most other needs of slippery, I suggest. Yes, things come out the other end slippery also.
Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee
On 25/03/2014 2:23 PM, Van Knutson wrote: Just for shats giggles, I, for the first time since buying the car 4 yrs ago, put the spade key in the door instead of using electronic ingress as usual. It fit but gave no inkling of turning / unlocking the car. I confess testing the physical key in the door didn't occur to me @ time of sale. Is it possible that, the tumbler had filled with crud after not being penetrated in god knows how long (it was 10 yrs old when I bought it in 2009 and may never have been tested for all I know), or that the key / tumbler combo was a mismatch from the getgo? I don't want to go around wantonly spraying WD40 everywhere and really mess things up. I am nervous in that I am one dead wristwatch battery away from being permanently locked out of my car. 99 E 320 Maybe talk to a locksmith? I had an issue with one of the deadbolts on my house and took it to a locksmith with the intention of buying a new lock like it as I thought it was worn out. They looked at it and suggested all that it really needed was good lubrication. They sold me a small but expensive bottle of oil that they recommended and I did what they suggested. Has been several years now with no problems. I should probably lube it again while I am remembering this. No idea if some lesser oil (or Mobil1) would have done the trick but the advice from the locksmith was free so I think I more than broke even. He could just as easily have sold me a new $100 lock. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
From childhood in the '30s I seem to remember two kinds of castor oil; plain and odorless. The plain was a yellowish color and the odorless was colorless and cost more. Most of the kids I knew got a periodic dose which amazingly seemed to correspond with various kinds of bad behavior. My kids might have been using the odorless in their Cox engines. Gerry On 3/25/2014 2:14 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Glow fuel is a mixture if methanol and nitromethane (up to 30%). For two-cycle engines it also includes oil. From Wikipedia: Most model engines require oil to be included with the fuel as a lubricant since the engine has no independent oiling capability. Model engine fuel is typically 8-22% oil, with the higher percentages run in older design two-stroke glow engines that use bushings for the crankshaft bearings. The most commonly used lubricants are castor oil and synthetic oils, and many glow fuels include a mixture of the two. The oils included in glow fuel generally are not burned by the engine, and are expelled out the exhaust of the engine. This also helps the engine dissipate heat, as the oil emitted is generally hot. So for us oldsters (pre synthetics) the distinct aroma was caster oil. Scott ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats electric flying
Quadcopter or hexacopter! --R On 3/25/14 3:32 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: The large deed restricted community where I live provides a field and a club for model flying, but they won't allow anything but battery operated models. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] People are generally holding on
Takes one to know one. [:o) Gerry On 3/22/2014 5:02 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: DB= Douchebag:) Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2014, at 9:46 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Daimler-Benz? Probably would since there would be an MB star on the hood and a 300D Turbo insignia on the back hatch. Also, MB hubcaps if they could be attached. [:o) Gerry On 3/22/2014 8:25 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: And you'd look like a DB Prius driver to boot. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2014, at 8:13 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: There was a (2006?) Prius in the Tampa paper for $8000. It was tempting. Put a new big battery in it and you'd have pretty good transportation for around $10,000 providing there weren't serious problems elsewhere. Gerry Curt wrote: I don't understand the crazy vehemence against electric cars. If I had the money I'd have an electric car right now. I'm with you totally. But... we both drive 3-pedal 240D. Perhaps there is some genetics. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:
Yes I recall an oil analyst about 15 years ago describing how converting more of the passenger fleet to diesel would not make economic sense because there is virtually no reserve refining capacity in North America so any increase in consumption of diesel would drive the price up and thereby negate the financial benefit to drivers. Seems like he was correct. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Monster Bike (sorta)
yeah, i'd love to have one of those and ride it on the beach as a strength building exercise On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I was thinking about Gary's lament about not being able to ride on the beach the other day when I saw this. Dan Sent from my iPad On Mar 25, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: http://gizmodo.com/this-monster-truck-trike-will-stop-you-from-sinking-on-1551228541 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:
Right now the US is exporting lots of diesel to Yurp. --R On 3/25/14 4:58 PM, kdwittne...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes I recall an oil analyst about 15 years ago describing how converting more of the passenger fleet to diesel would not make economic sense because there is virtually no reserve refining capacity in North America so any increase in consumption of diesel would drive the price up and thereby negate the financial benefit to drivers. Seems like he was correct. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee
Just order a new key from the dealer with your VIN. Cheap, and you'll be sure that it's the right key. NEVER, EVER put oil in a lock. You will make a mess of it for sure. Get a tube of graphite from your local hardware store, or rub a pencil lead all over the key (powered graphite works much better.) Dan On Mar 25, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 25/03/2014 2:23 PM, Van Knutson wrote: Just for shats giggles, I, for the first time since buying the car 4 yrs ago, put the spade key in the door instead of using electronic ingress as usual. It fit but gave no inkling of turning / unlocking the car. I confess testing the physical key in the door didn't occur to me @ time of sale. Is it possible that, the tumbler had filled with crud after not being penetrated in god knows how long (it was 10 yrs old when I bought it in 2009 and may never have been tested for all I know), or that the key / tumbler combo was a mismatch from the getgo? I don't want to go around wantonly spraying WD40 everywhere and really mess things up. I am nervous in that I am one dead wristwatch battery away from being permanently locked out of my car. 99 E 320 Maybe talk to a locksmith? I had an issue with one of the deadbolts on my house and took it to a locksmith with the intention of buying a new lock like it as I thought it was worn out. They looked at it and suggested all that it really needed was good lubrication. They sold me a small but expensive bottle of oil that they recommended and I did what they suggested. Has been several years now with no problems. I should probably lube it again while I am remembering this. No idea if some lesser oil (or Mobil1) would have done the trick but the advice from the locksmith was free so I think I more than broke even. He could just as easily have sold me a new $100 lock. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee
What would you use to clean it out? carb cleaner or something that will evaporate (assuming it cleans out whatever gunk is in there)? --R On 3/25/14 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Just order a new key from the dealer with your VIN. Cheap, and you'll be sure that it's the right key. NEVER, EVER put oil in a lock. You will make a mess of it for sure. Get a tube of graphite from your local hardware store, or rub a pencil lead all over the key (powered graphite works much better.) Dan On Mar 25, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 25/03/2014 2:23 PM, Van Knutson wrote: Just for shats giggles, I, for the first time since buying the car 4 yrs ago, put the spade key in the door instead of using electronic ingress as usual. It fit but gave no inkling of turning / unlocking the car. I confess testing the physical key in the door didn't occur to me @ time of sale. Is it possible that, the tumbler had filled with crud after not being penetrated in god knows how long (it was 10 yrs old when I bought it in 2009 and may never have been tested for all I know), or that the key / tumbler combo was a mismatch from the getgo? I don't want to go around wantonly spraying WD40 everywhere and really mess things up. I am nervous in that I am one dead wristwatch battery away from being permanently locked out of my car. 99 E 320 Maybe talk to a locksmith? I had an issue with one of the deadbolts on my house and took it to a locksmith with the intention of buying a new lock like it as I thought it was worn out. They looked at it and suggested all that it really needed was good lubrication. They sold me a small but expensive bottle of oil that they recommended and I did what they suggested. Has been several years now with no problems. I should probably lube it again while I am remembering this. No idea if some lesser oil (or Mobil1) would have done the trick but the advice from the locksmith was free so I think I more than broke even. He could just as easily have sold me a new $100 lock. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start
I have a dead one sitting here that I have been meaning to open up but have not done that yet. At worst you can open that one up and see if it is broken, burned out, dirty, etc. and either clean it up/fix it or junk it. --R On 3/25/14 3:49 PM, G. M. Brown wrote: My 1984 300D Turbo won't start, but there's a loud buzzing/groaning coming from the glow plug control relay box and the buzzing/groaning will stop if either of the two plugs to the glow plug control relay are unplugged. I'm assuming the problem is the glow plug control relay? Is there any way to repair these things, as a new replacement is rather pricey? TIA G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee
Something that wouldn't leave resigoo. When I worked for the school district I spoke to one of our staff locksmiths (yes, the place was so big they had two locksmiths on staff full time.) I asked him about getting MB keys duped along with some other lock related questions. He said that WD-40 was the best job security he ever had, as it would clean things out well, but the residue it left as well as being a crappy lubricant almost guaranteed that the lock would fail. I like 3M Adhesive Remover. Wicked stuff, won't hurt paint. Dan On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: What would you use to clean it out? carb cleaner or something that will evaporate (assuming it cleans out whatever gunk is in there)? --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start
My 1984 300D Turbo won't start, but there's a loud buzzing/groaning coming from the glow plug control relay box and the buzzing/groaning will stop if either of the two plugs to the glow plug control relay are unplugged. I'm assuming the problem is the glow plug control relay? Is there any way to repair these things, as a new replacement is rather pricey? TIA G. M. Brown Brevard, NC Buy a used one. Car-part.com then search for something on your car. Call them and ask if they have a GP relay. Somebody will have one. Kaleb used to sell them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:
Reuters seems to think that Americas cold winter and Europes limited refining capacity has created a shortage that has driven up the current diesel prices in both areas: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/29/markets-europe-products-idUSL5N0L320J20140129 Gerry On 3/25/2014 4:58 PM, kdwittne...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes I recall an oil analyst about 15 years ago describing how converting more of the passenger fleet to diesel would not make economic sense because there is virtually no reserve refining capacity in North America so any increase in consumption of diesel would drive the price up and thereby negate the financial benefit to drivers. Seems like he was correct. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:
We ship diesel to the EU. It is more profitable. Lots of the crude up north is going to Asia, since it is more profitable to Korea and Japan, than having west coast refiners make domestic fuel. clay On Mar 25, 2014, at 1:58 PM, kdwittne...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes I recall an oil analyst about 15 years ago describing how converting more of the passenger fleet to diesel would not make economic sense because there is virtually no reserve refining capacity in North America so any increase in consumption of diesel would drive the price up and thereby negate the financial benefit to drivers. Seems like he was correct. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 240D ?
Dieselhead wrote: Anyone want to sell a good 81-83 OM616 engine? Your mao-616 still runs? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Cool 96 E300 Diesel is hot
Me thinks that aluminium and steel expands at different rates, not sure which does what. Hendrik who also expands On 26/03/14 01:31, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: On 3/23/2014 8:02 AM, Mitchell Haley, EA wrote: The way I am reading this you used some sort of penetrator fluid? Would this not cool off the plugs, thus defeating the purpose of the exercise in warming the plugs up to operating temp? I believe the idea was to have the aluminum head hot so that it expanded around the steel plug. I'm not sure how that works, however. Doesn't a hole in an aluminum casting get smaller when you heat the casting? Mitch. . You can drive around the block a few times to heat up a beetle engine. Put a deep socket over a stuck spark plug. Quickly fill the deep socket with oil with a mustard or ketchup squeeze bottle. Very slowly turn the the plug / socket with a wrench. And it will will come out without stripping the threads. Never had to install a helicoil using that method. Very carefully applied powdered graphite to the threads of the new plug (Don't get any near the electrodes.).and never had a stuck plug again. Never had a stuck glow plug, so haven't tried the method there. Either the plug shrinks or the aluminum head expands; not sure which; but it works. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee
Local semi-retired locksmith advised several years ago that WD-40 was the best lubricant for locks. I don't know if it affects a locks longevity, but since then a squirt in my locks has solved all problems. Gerry On 3/25/2014 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Just order a new key from the dealer with your VIN. Cheap, and you'll be sure that it's the right key. NEVER, EVER put oil in a lock. You will make a mess of it for sure. Get a tube of graphite from your local hardware store, or rub a pencil lead all over the key (powered graphite works much better.) Dan On Mar 25, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 25/03/2014 2:23 PM, Van Knutson wrote: Just for shats giggles, I, for the first time since buying the car 4 yrs ago, put the spade key in the door instead of using electronic ingress as usual. It fit but gave no inkling of turning / unlocking the car. I confess testing the physical key in the door didn't occur to me @ time of sale. Is it possible that, the tumbler had filled with crud after not being penetrated in god knows how long (it was 10 yrs old when I bought it in 2009 and may never have been tested for all I know), or that the key / tumbler combo was a mismatch from the getgo? I don't want to go around wantonly spraying WD40 everywhere and really mess things up. I am nervous in that I am one dead wristwatch battery away from being permanently locked out of my car. 99 E 320 Maybe talk to a locksmith? I had an issue with one of the deadbolts on my house and took it to a locksmith with the intention of buying a new lock like it as I thought it was worn out. They looked at it and suggested all that it really needed was good lubrication. They sold me a small but expensive bottle of oil that they recommended and I did what they suggested. Has been several years now with no problems. I should probably lube it again while I am remembering this. No idea if some lesser oil (or Mobil1) would have done the trick but the advice from the locksmith was free so I think I more than broke even. He could just as easily have sold me a new $100 lock. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee in lockey
Have you tried the other locks? Do you have another key? As said, it's possible that someone fitted another ignition lock to your car. Also as said, spraying liquid in there will turn the crud into crud mud and may well make things worse. The problem is the crud has to come out somehow and the only sure fire method is disassembly if possible. Hendrik who should test his locks On 26/03/14 05:53, Van Knutson wrote: Just for shats giggles, I, for the first time since buying the car 4 yrs ago, put the spade key in the door instead of using electronic ingress as usual. It fit but gave no inkling of turning / unlocking the car. I confess testing the physical key in the door didn't occur to me @ time of sale. Is it possible that, the tumbler had filled with crud after not being penetrated in god knows how long (it was 10 yrs old when I bought it in 2009 and may never have been tested for all I know), or that the key / tumbler combo was a mismatch from the getgo? I don't want to go around wantonly spraying WD40 everywhere and really mess things up. I am nervous in that I am one dead wristwatch battery away from being permanently locked out of my car. 99 E 320 DBV, information minister. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start
I had a failed relay in a Nissan years back, by passed it so it was old school push button to glow. That is a drastic and cheap solution. Hendrik who has mostly direct injection Diesels but a couple need to glow On 26/03/14 06:19, G. M. Brown wrote: My 1984 300D Turbo won't start, but there's a loud buzzing/groaning coming from the glow plug control relay box and the buzzing/groaning will stop if either of the two plugs to the glow plug control relay are unplugged. I'm assuming the problem is the glow plug control relay? Is there any way to repair these things, as a new replacement is rather pricey? TIA G. M. Brown ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee in theory
It depends on the lock design I think, as I said if the gunk has no where to go it will turn into liquid gunk and get into all the tiny crevices. General consensus is that if you need lubricant to help operate the lock, the lock is close to failing completely. Ignition locks being the most obvious example. I think it was mentioned somewhere that ATF is the best liquid lubricant to use, as it does not attract dust or some such thing. Theory would suggest that a keyless entry vehicles lock should be cleaner than the older style turn the key to open, as there is potential for dirt entry every time you use the lock. Hendrik who is theorizing again On 26/03/14 10:05, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Local semi-retired locksmith advised several years ago that WD-40 was the best lubricant for locks. I don't know if it affects a locks longevity, but since then a squirt in my locks has solved all problems. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee
Gerry wrote: Local semi-retired locksmith advised several years ago that WD-40 was the best lubricant for locks. How about Dri-Slide which has carrier that evaporates and graphite? We used to use it repairing Schwinn bikes - used it for brake and derailleur cables. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start
Gary got me one at a very reasonable price for my 300D that has worked flawlessly. Gerry On 3/25/2014 5:29 PM, Dieselhead wrote: My 1984 300D Turbo won't start, but there's a loud buzzing/groaning coming from the glow plug control relay box and the buzzing/groaning will stop if either of the two plugs to the glow plug control relay are unplugged. I'm assuming the problem is the glow plug control relay? Is there any way to repair these things, as a new replacement is rather pricey? TIA G. M. Brown Brevard, NC Buy a used one. Car-part.com then search for something on your car. Call them and ask if they have a GP relay. Somebody will have one. Kaleb used to sell them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:
I assume the price of Diesel is due to less refineriescommitted to making diesel? Which I assume is because of the difficulty getting construction and operating permits? Sincerely, Larry On 3/25/2014 11:50 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: if i had the coin, i'd get two VW tdi's. a bug convertible and a jetta wagon On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 24/03/2014 9:01 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Now that diesel is holding solid around 4 dollars a gallon. Buying a diesel is getting harder to monetarily justify. It's kind of ironic we suddenly have more choices. Bob R The TDI may still be a winner at close to 50 mpg as per Curt's experience. Although, I cannot say I know how well a new gas Civic does. might be close. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start
Yes my 240D (now curt's) has a push button for GP's. I kind of liked it. Reminded me of late 49's early 50's starter buttons. On Mar 25, 2014 7:40 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: I had a failed relay in a Nissan years back, by passed it so it was old school push button to glow. That is a drastic and cheap solution. Hendrik who has mostly direct injection Diesels but a couple need to glow On 26/03/14 06:19, G. M. Brown wrote: My 1984 300D Turbo won't start, but there's a loud buzzing/groaning coming from the glow plug control relay box and the buzzing/groaning will stop if either of the two plugs to the glow plug control relay are unplugged. I'm assuming the problem is the glow plug control relay? Is there any way to repair these things, as a new replacement is rather pricey? TIA G. M. Brown ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
When I was flying radio control airplanes I built a Dallaire Sportser. Craig and Shirley need to meet Esh when they drive back up to Jerry Ford's airstrip. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] spade key no workee in lockey
I have had great success with a product called TriFlo. It is a mixture of teflon particles and a liquid carrier agent in a spray can, the liquid evaporates leaving the tiny teflon particles behind to lubricate. The advantage is, it leaves nothing to collect or attract dirt and dust. The liquid part also carries away the debris sort like brake cleaner, with good success. Since the lock or small part is left coated with teflon, it doesn't freeze or clog [well in a perfect world, of course]. I was first introduced to it over 20 yrs ago racing dirt bikes. It worked well under those harsh conditions and I've used it since for all kinds of things. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried the other locks? Do you have another key? As said, it's possible that someone fitted another ignition lock to your car. Also as said, spraying liquid in there will turn the crud into crud mud and may well make things worse. The problem is the crud has to come out somehow and the only sure fire method is disassembly if possible. Hendrik who should test his locks On 26/03/14 05:53, Van Knutson wrote: Just for shats giggles, I, for the first time since buying the car 4 yrs ago, put the spade key in the door instead of using electronic ingress as usual. It fit but gave no inkling of turning / unlocking the car. I confess testing the physical key in the door didn't occur to me @ time of sale. Is it possible that, the tumbler had filled with crud after not being penetrated in god knows how long (it was 10 yrs old when I bought it in 2009 and may never have been tested for all I know), or that the key / tumbler combo was a mismatch from the getgo? I don't want to go around wantonly spraying WD40 everywhere and really mess things up. I am nervous in that I am one dead wristwatch battery away from being permanently locked out of my car. 99 E 320 DBV, information minister. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty
At least 2 a year Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2014, at 8:04 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: how much key business can you promise me a year? On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I never have time to get to the dealer which is why I would like to order from jabba Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:14 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, got mine at the stealers, $35 (124.193 1987 300TD) Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 8:49 PM Subject: [MBZ] a question for dr fatty I know this has been asked before but do not remember the result. Are you able to order the regular keys for 126, 124 etc with a copy of title/registration and drivers license? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT Russian gas boom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1LGKieTxY#t=35 Now I'll be a bit more nervous when I see one of those gas bottle trucks. Hendrik who takes some care when transporting the BBQ bottles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start
My 1984 300D Turbo won't start, but there's a loud buzzing/groaning coming from the glow plug control relay box and the buzzing/groaning will stop if either of the two plugs to the glow plug control relay are unplugged. I'm assuming the problem is the glow plug control relay? First check everything else, like battery connections, grounds, etc. Relay buzzing is a common symptom when there is nearly zero juice available where it is needed. Includes GP fuse for crackage. A meter is the _first_ step whenever things start to go wrong electrically. Is there any way to repair these things, as a new replacement is rather pricey? TIA They can be resoldered, often. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
http://pt709.synology.me/DSCF0543.JPG http://pt709.synology.me/DSCF0545.JPG You can fly anything in our unrestricted rural area. Links to photos of motorized parachute above. The transport trailer is in the foreground of the first photo. The runway is just a closely-mowed strip in my neighbor's field across the road. Scott -Original Message- From: arche...@embarqmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:33 PM ... The large deed restricted community where I live provides a field and a club for model flying, but they won't allow anything but battery operated models. ... Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] List Destruction
Fight fight fight, let's get Trent in on it also. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2014, at 2:08 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: +1 Cage match on Banned!! clay On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Well if Gary and the crew would fight it out on banned, they could all have at it all they want and we would get a good show. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 23, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Dan wrote: Of which you are a member of as well. Yep. But I read more here. And I despise the downfall of banned. banned originally was never boring banned is currently dead - totally look to society to understand why - too numerous to fully enumerate but much of what is around us every day is why banned is gone. i guess the largest reason in my mind is the failure to accept diversity, even with the supposed implementation of civil rights. pc is the way - total boring. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:
The price of diesel is reflective of the price of heating oil, or it used to be. We've had a cold winter in the East so lots of heating oil was consumed, and our diesel prices reflect that. Today we had the latest mostest snow I can remember (2 -3 in my back yard). On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I assume the price of Diesel is due to less refineriescommitted to making diesel? Which I assume is because of the difficulty getting construction and operating permits? Sincerely, Larry On 3/25/2014 11:50 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: if i had the coin, i'd get two VW tdi's. a bug convertible and a jetta wagon On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 24/03/2014 9:01 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Now that diesel is holding solid around 4 dollars a gallon. Buying a diesel is getting harder to monetarily justify. It's kind of ironic we suddenly have more choices. Bob R The TDI may still be a winner at close to 50 mpg as per Curt's experience. Although, I cannot say I know how well a new gas Civic does. might be close. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Turbo won't start
I don't think I have any left Sent from my iPhone On Mar 25, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: My 1984 300D Turbo won't start, but there's a loud buzzing/groaning coming from the glow plug control relay box and the buzzing/groaning will stop if either of the two plugs to the glow plug control relay are unplugged. I'm assuming the problem is the glow plug control relay? Is there any way to repair these things, as a new replacement is rather pricey? TIA G. M. Brown Brevard, NC Buy a used one. Car-part.com then search for something on your car. Call them and ask if they have a GP relay. Somebody will have one. Kaleb used to sell them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fats driving
Yes. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Was it used in the little 2 cycle Cox airplane engines? I remember that stuff stunk big time. Dan -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] New Diesels available in the US now:
Diesel is the same price as premium gas here. You have to remember that the fuel markets are world markets, not local, not US. A cold winter in the EU will also drive up Diesel costs. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: The price of diesel is reflective of the price of heating oil, or it used to be. We've had a cold winter in the East so lots of heating oil was consumed, and our diesel prices reflect that. Today we had the latest mostest snow I can remember (2 -3 in my back yard). -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listons to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
