[MBZ] ?

2014-10-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

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Re: [MBZ] ?

2014-10-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

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[MBZ] Fw: ?

2014-10-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes


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It's 1039 here already!  Am I gonna hafta walk around and dump bunks? 
:)


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Attaboy

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Re: [MBZ] ?

2014-10-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
And your question was?

Quiet day. Mondays often are

crickets

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[MBZ] OT - another non-political B-52 tale - RAIL YARD

2014-10-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

RAIL YARD 45 NM SW HANOI
By Wilton Strickland

   The night of 21 Dec '72, my target was a major rail transshipment yard 
about 45 nautical miles southwest of Hanoi.  SAM and anti-aircraft artillery 
(AAA) activity in this area was relatively light.  In fact, this mission was 
so routine that I remember little about it, and my recording of it has been 
destroyed (recorded over by a teenage son 35 years ago, I suspect).  This 
night was anything but routine for many of the other BUFFs, however.  Two 
were lost to SAM's.
   During the withdrawal, I heard John Graham, co-pilot on my Kincheloe 
crew, flying as a substitute with another crew, report to Red Crown, the 
Navy ship monitoring all air traffic in North Vietnam, We just lost Blue 
02.  He blew up right in front of me.  (Destroyed by a SAM.)
   During the latter stages of our withdrawal, the gunner reported a 
bandit (fighter) approaching us rapidly from the rear.  Enemy fighters had 
joined several formations of B-52's, possibly to aid ground defenses in 
tracking, and B-52 gunners had shot down two of them.  Our gunner was locked 
on the fighter approaching us and was prepared to fire.  Just as the fighter 
came within range, however, we heard a frantic call on the radio, Your 
bandit is friendly; your bandit is friendly!
   Gunner replied, Okay, you were about to 'get' it, you'd better speak up 
a little sooner!  The American F-4 quickly departed to do business 
elsewhere. 



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Re: [MBZ] ?

2014-10-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Anybody there?  Is system working?  Immediately rcvd satisfactory answer(s). 
;)

Yeah, but it's Tues.  ;)

Wilt

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And your question was?

Quiet day. Mondays often are

crickets

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Re: [MBZ] ?

2014-10-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
How about Obama abortion and gun control to liven things up?

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 And your question was?
 
 Quiet day. Mondays often are
 
 crickets
 
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Re: [MBZ] ?

2014-10-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I awoke with this empty feeling.

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 Anybody there?  Is system working?  Immediately rcvd satisfactory
 answer(s). ;)
 Yeah, but it's Tues.  ;)

 Wilt

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  And your question was?

 Quiet day. Mondays often are

 crickets

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Re: [MBZ] ?

2014-10-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

No, no, please.   ;)

Wilton

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How about Obama abortion and gun control to liven things up?

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And your question was?

Quiet day. Mondays often are

crickets

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Re: [MBZ] ?

2014-10-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep, grammar'll do it.  'Thought for a second he was having an abortion. 
:)


Wilton

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Where are the commas?

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How about Obama abortion and gun control to liven things up?

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 And your question was?

 Quiet day. Mondays often are

 crickets

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Re: [MBZ] ?

2014-10-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzx5R9_u3ts





How about Obama abortion and gun control to liven things up?

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Re: [MBZ] ?

2014-10-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
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How about Obama abortion and gun control to liven things up?

Uh, no. 

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] somewhat OT 3D printer

2014-10-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 11:55:46 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
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 Here is an interesting intro to 3D printers
 
 https://www.packtpub.com/books/content/6-months-open-source-3d-printer

And here is an inexpensive 3D printer:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828840001
XYZprinting da Vinci 1.0 FFF (Fused Filament Fabrication) 0.1mm-0.4mm 150
mm/s Single Jet 3D Printer 7.8 X 7.8 X 7.8 Build Size
$499.00

Or a combo with 7 different colors of filament:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1870660
da Vinci 1.0 3D Printer Bundle: XYZprinting da Vinci 1.0 3D Printer, 600g
ABS Plastic Filament in Tangerine, Black, White, Purple, Yellow, Blue,
Green
$569.00


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] somewhat OT 3D printer

2014-10-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Interesting.

Wilton

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On Sun, 12 Oct 2014 11:55:46 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Here is an interesting intro to 3D printers

https://www.packtpub.com/books/content/6-months-open-source-3d-printer


And here is an inexpensive 3D printer:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828840001
XYZprinting da Vinci 1.0 FFF (Fused Filament Fabrication) 0.1mm-0.4mm 150
mm/s Single Jet 3D Printer 7.8 X 7.8 X 7.8 Build Size
$499.00

Or a combo with 7 different colors of filament:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1870660
da Vinci 1.0 3D Printer Bundle: XYZprinting da Vinci 1.0 3D Printer, 600g
ABS Plastic Filament in Tangerine, Black, White, Purple, Yellow, Blue,
Green
$569.00


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ?

2014-10-14 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Oh Kleb, you are SO 2013!  Now it's ISIS, Ebola, and DACA + EV-D68.
(Including the Oxford comma).

Please take this to BANNED for any substantive replies!

Greg

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How about Obama abortion and gun control to liven things up?

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[MBZ] Rear Sunshade Modification

2014-10-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Just found this really cool rear sunshade modification that allows you to give 
feedback to other drivers.  I think I might try this on the S420...

http://mbworld.org/articles/perfect-solution-tailgaters/

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Rear Sunshade Modification

2014-10-14 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
That's great Dan. Wish I could rig one in my 124 esp for the Boston drivers
I encounter. I have a friend who made a message light for rear window
brake light.
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 Just found this really cool rear sunshade modification that allows you to
 give feedback to other drivers.  I think I might try this on the S420...

 http://mbworld.org/articles/perfect-solution-tailgaters/

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[MBZ] Motor mounts

2014-10-14 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
A friend is looking for motor and tranny mounts for his 78 240D. I'm hearing 
lately that the OEM are crap and that one should buy OE. Is there a particular 
OEM brand that is acceptable for this kind of part or must he bite the OE 
Mercedes bullet?

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Re: [MBZ] Motor mounts

2014-10-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I show them available form the dealer for around $200 for the set of engine 
(motor) mounts:

Left - 123 241 50 13  $82
Right - 123 241 4113  $127

Transmission mount: 

There are a number of variants of this part.  The OE parts are super expensive 
for some reason, like over $200.  I would look for a good brand on the 
secondary market, such as Lemforder.  No guarantees, but better than a URO.

Whenever possible, ALWAYS go for OE rubber, suspension or brake parts.  These 
are parts you may never replace again, so why be cheap and risk getting a 
crappy part that will fail?

Dan

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 A friend is looking for motor and tranny mounts for his 78 240D. I'm hearing 
 lately that the OEM are crap and that one should buy OE. Is there a 
 particular OEM brand that is acceptable for this kind of part or must he bite 
 the OE Mercedes bullet?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Motor mounts

2014-10-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Looks like Meyle makes the transmission mounts for far less than OE prices, but 
I would still try to find something better.  To give you an idea of the crap 
that's out there, the URO version can be had for around $10.  Meyle takes you 
up in the low $20 range, as does Febi/Bilstein.

What does that tell you?  And how could they possibly make a quality part like 
this for $10 and make a profit on it?

While he's at it, has he checked the differential mount?  Probably not.  That's 
an often overlooked piece of drivetrain support.

Dan

  
On Oct 14, 2014, at 9:25 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 I show them available form the dealer for around $200 for the set of engine 
 (motor) mounts:
 
 Left - 123 241 50 13  $82
 Right - 123 241 4113  $127
 
 Transmission mount: 
 
 There are a number of variants of this part.  The OE parts are super 
 expensive for some reason, like over $200.  I would look for a good brand on 
 the secondary market, such as Lemforder.  No guarantees, but better than a 
 URO.
 
 Whenever possible, ALWAYS go for OE rubber, suspension or brake parts.  These 
 are parts you may never replace again, so why be cheap and risk getting a 
 crappy part that will fail?
 
 Dan
 
 On Oct 14, 2014, at 9:01 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 A friend is looking for motor and tranny mounts for his 78 240D. I'm hearing 
 lately that the OEM are crap and that one should buy OE. Is there a 
 particular OEM brand that is acceptable for this kind of part or must he 
 bite the OE Mercedes bullet?
 
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[MBZ] 240D exhaust

2014-10-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The 240D got loud today.  Discovered the patch pipe just to the rear 
of the bend in the downpipe was cracking at the weld.   Further 
investigation led to a thumb sized hole on the inside.


Well, it needs a new pipe...Same as it did maybe 15 years ago.

I took two hose clamps and a piece of heavy flashing that I have been 
tempted to throw out several times, but saved for some reason.  Put 
the car up on ramps, crawled under, wrapped the flashing around, put 
the hose clamps on it and tightened up the clamps.


Diesel Muffler bandaid 101.  It will probably last for 5 years, then 
I will replace the flashing again.  That should be good until 2024.


123 Diesels are great, but I love the OM603 too!


Oh, By the way, 15 years ago, I didn't buy a new pipe.  That is when 
the patch pipe was welded in.



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Re: [MBZ] Rear Sunshade Modification

2014-10-14 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
The message displayed should inspire officers who pursue you after passing
through speed traps, bank robberies, and other sundry motoring violations..
;)

To bad someone doesn't come up with a nice LED board that could be
programmed with various messages such as Thank You, Yield NOW !
 , Dim your lights or die [OK perhaps that's to strong], but you get the
idea.
Perhaps, it could even be keyed to voice commands so you didn't have to
look away from the traffic to switch it on/off.



On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 That's great Dan. Wish I could rig one in my 124 esp for the Boston drivers
 I encounter. I have a friend who made a message light for rear window
 brake light.
 On Oct 14, 2014 8:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

  Just found this really cool rear sunshade modification that allows you to
  give feedback to other drivers.  I think I might try this on the S420...
 
  http://mbworld.org/articles/perfect-solution-tailgaters/
 
  Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust

2014-10-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:27 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 240D exhaust


The 240D got loud today.  Discovered the patch pipe just to the rear of 
the bend in the downpipe was cracking at the weld.   Further investigation 
led to a thumb sized hole on the inside.


Well, it needs a new pipe...Same as it did maybe 15 years ago.

I took two hose clamps and a piece of heavy flashing that I have been 
tempted to throw out several times, but saved for some reason.  Put the 
car up on ramps, crawled under, wrapped the flashing around, put the hose 
clamps on it and tightened up the clamps.


Diesel Muffler bandaid 101.  It will probably last for 5 years, then I 
will replace the flashing again.  That should be good until 2024.


123 Diesels are great, but I love the OM603 too!


Oh, By the way, 15 years ago, I didn't buy a new pipe.  That is when the 
patch pipe was welded in.



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Re: [MBZ] Rear Sunshade Modification

2014-10-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Greg, I thought of the same idea 20 years ago.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:36 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

 The message displayed should inspire officers who pursue you after passing
 through speed traps, bank robberies, and other sundry motoring violations..
 ;)

 To bad someone doesn't come up with a nice LED board that could be
 programmed with various messages such as Thank You, Yield NOW !
  , Dim your lights or die [OK perhaps that's to strong], but you get the
 idea.
 Perhaps, it could even be keyed to voice commands so you didn't have to
 look away from the traffic to switch it on/off.



 On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  That's great Dan. Wish I could rig one in my 124 esp for the Boston
 drivers
  I encounter. I have a friend who made a message light for rear window
  brake light.
  On Oct 14, 2014 8:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  wrote:
 
   Just found this really cool rear sunshade modification that allows you
 to
   give feedback to other drivers.  I think I might try this on the
 S420...
  
   http://mbworld.org/articles/perfect-solution-tailgaters/
  
   Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Rear Sunshade Modification

2014-10-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
If Mr. P mounts a couple of 50s facing rearward to match his 4 front 
facing ones, then has the sign  I bet people would back off.



At least the ones who recognize the barrel of a 50 would.  The ghetto 
babes probably would not.




Greg, I thought of the same idea 20 years ago.

On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 10:36 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

 wrote:



 The message displayed should inspire officers who pursue you after passing
 through speed traps, bank robberies, and other sundry motoring violations..
 ;)

 To bad someone doesn't come up with a nice LED board that could be
 programmed with various messages such as Thank You, Yield NOW !
  , Dim your lights or die [OK perhaps that's to strong], but you get the
 idea.
 Perhaps, it could even be keyed to voice commands so you didn't have to

  look away from the traffic to switch it on/off.


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