Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Hard drives take a mixture of 12v and 5v don't they?A quick search suggests 
thats true and that they'll want between 8w and 11w for a 3.5 drive with 2.5 
drives only wanting 5v and something like 5w. A 12v to USB adapter provides 5v 
and its not hard to find one that goes to 3a. With no fan to spin thats got to 
be more efficient than an inverter to get me to 110v then back down to 5v for 
the drive. Surge power is apparently way less on a 2.5 drive, the 3.5 can 
supposedly need up to 30W.
For my purposes (ie the PI living at camp as a security monitoring system) I 
don't need much for drives, a 64GB SD card would be way more than sufficient. 
The plan would be to set it up on a motion sensor so if a miscreant steps into 
the camp it lights him up, takes his picture, uploads that to the web, emails 
me and plays a warning Leave immediately, your picture has already been sent 
to the authorities. I figure we should take another picture of the criminal, 
imagine, you've broken into a back woods cabin late at night, everything is 
dark and still, then suddenly it lights up like daytime and a mysterious voice 
starts talking to you...
We'll probably never do it, we don't have much vandalism anymore with our new 
good neighbors looking after the place but I think it'd be hilarious to scare 
an intruder...
-Curt
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 No need for an inverter, using 12v should save a fair amount of 
overhead.

It would, but you still would have to power the disks.  They don't
eat 12V directly.  (Not exclusively, anyhow.)

 It's getting to the point where the charge controller is more 
 expensive than the panel.

You don't really need a charge controller if you don't have to maximize
the power transfer from the panel to the battery.  A voltage regulator
would do it!  If a 25% bigger panel covers the inefficiency, and is
cheaper than the controller, well...



-- Jim



  
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Re: [MBZ] way OT - fence charger repair/deer management

2014-12-08 Thread David Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes

On 12/7/2014 7:38 PM, OK Don wrote:
What kind of fence (how high) do you electrify that keeps the deer out 
of the corn? Around here they laugh as they jump over the fences. Do 
you electrify the entire fence or just the top?
 These are mule deer you have?  I know they are bigger than our 
white-tails, so perhaps my system wouldn't work for mule deer.

/
/ Our garden fence has the bottom four wires electrified. The lowest 
is 3 - 4 from the ground to discourage ground hogs and raccoons.  The 
next three wires are about 1' apart.  Then a gap to the top wire which 
is about 6' from the ground and is not electrified.  The theory being if 
the deer is jumping over the top wire the animal won't be grounded 
anyway.  In fact I have never seen one try that jump.  What I have 
observed is the deer head down grazing weeds and touching the bottom 
wire with its nose - it jumps back and shakes its head as if stung by a 
bee.  After that it keeps away from the fence.  If the power is off 
awhile sometimes a young one will step through the fence and have to be 
scared out.  We use the low impedance type of charger that is supposed 
to be tolerant of weeds.  Neighbors have advised that one of the 50 
mile (2 joule) sort is needed.


 Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-08 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 For my purposes (ie the PI living at camp as a security monitoring system)
 I don't need much for


I love to DIY, but around here game cameras go on sale after deer season
for very low prices. They basically capture photos on a schedule and
usually with an IR flash, some are motion sensing also and will take
video or at least MJPEG.  A few years back I got one with a lock, and the
screws and SD card were stored under the waterproof cover,and used it to
monitor the shed.  I figured it would only be useful for reporting a theft
anyway, I put it opposite the door so I'd get a good shot of anyone coming
in.  If you have a clear trail you could probably capture the road and get
the people coming in and their license going out.

I'm not sure you could get months out of a single SD card, but it might be
easier than starting from nothing.  There may be some that use cell data or
wifi though I've never actually looked.

It doesn't have the fun factor, but you also don't run the risk of scaring
a trespasser or thief into a heart attack, and your odds of the culprit not
noticing and pilfering the equipment are probably higher...

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] way OT - fence charger repair/deer management

2014-12-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 08 Dec 2014 13:20:23 -0500 David  Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 We use the low impedance type of charger that is supposed to be
 tolerant of weeds.  Neighbors have advised that one of the 50 mile (2
 joule) sort is needed.

Fence chargers that put out much more than 2 joules exist, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
BTDT. The idea behind this is to get a good picture and scare the bejeezus out 
of the thief with the ability to upload in real time in case the thief decides 
to try to disable the camera. I also think the idea of scaring them is really 
funny. :)It could also be a weather station and with a couple cameras could 
tell if there was for instance too much snow to make it worth trying to get 
into camp for an early winter or early spring trip.
Like I said I'll probably never build it, mostly just an intellectual exercise.
I see that Amazon's pricing algorithm has brought the price of the 100w panel 
back to $185 for me, interesting...
-Curt
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 Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 1:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital
   


On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

For my purposes (ie the PI living at camp as a security monitoring system) I 
don't need much for 

I love to DIY, but around here game cameras go on sale after deer season for 
very low prices. They basically capture photos on a schedule and usually with 
an IR flash, some are motion sensing also and will take video or at least 
MJPEG.  A few years back I got one with a lock, and the screws and SD card were 
stored under the waterproof cover,and used it to monitor the shed.  I figured 
it would only be useful for reporting a theft anyway, I put it opposite the 
door so I'd get a good shot of anyone coming in.  If you have a clear trail you 
could probably capture the road and get the people coming in and their license 
going out.
I'm not sure you could get months out of a single SD card, but it might be 
easier than starting from nothing.  There may be some that use cell data or 
wifi though I've never actually looked.
It doesn't have the fun factor, but you also don't run the risk of scaring a 
trespasser or thief into a heart attack, and your odds of the culprit not 
noticing and pilfering the equipment are probably higher...
Best,Tim


  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: OTA TV Question

2014-12-08 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Rick wrote:
 I need two antennas to receive broadcasts from both cities.‎


Just stop watching either broadcast and end your quest?
i.e. indoctrination of gov't contrails via tv is bad for one's mental
health, etc.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: OTA TV Question

2014-12-08 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Original Message  
From: Mountain Man via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 6:06 PM

Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: OTA TV Question

Rick wrote:
 I need two antennas to receive broadcasts from both cities.

Dan G wrote:
Just stop watching either broadcast and end your quest?
i.e. indoctrination of gov't contrails via tv is bad for one's mental
health, etc.

‎If you watch more than one hour of TV a month, you watch more than me. I'd 
like to watch the weather this winter, and South Bend has an OTA 24 hour 
weather channel. 

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital

2014-12-08 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I just received the WD NAS:  First impressions, the disks are indeed the WD
red series.  The cost of the NAS with disks was not much more than I would
have paid for the bare drives.  I will have to test the drives thoroughly as
some reviewers have experienced a high failure rate (A bad batch?  A dropped
pallet?)  The unit looks well engineered, the drives are easily removable
without tools.

Scott advised that I was mistaken on the Synology 100 Mb Ethernet; I may
have been misled by a comparison chart on Amazon.  Nonetheless I am so far
pleased.  Time will tell whether the interface and performance will be up to
expectations.

Greg

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Once again thanks to y'all for your knowledgeable input!  I looked at
Synology products but finally opted for a WD 8 TB My Cloud NAS.  The price
and small form factor were appealing, and I understand that these now are
equipped with WD red series HDDs.  My experiences with WD products has been
good in the past.  Another factor in my decision was that the WD has gigabit
Ethernet as opposed to the 100 Mb of the Synology.  This looked to me to be
the best bang for buck.  A smaller disk size would probably have worked for
my needs, but the additional cost for the larger size was not much.  The 8
TB was actually cheaper than the 6 TB.  I'm not sure that the remote access
features are needed for my family, but then I don't need to enable them.

I will provide follow up on this if any of you are interested.

Greg

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Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 8:19 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital

I agree with Tim.

After researching storage options to a level of detail I never planned, I
came to much the same conclusion.  If I was going with an off the shelf
solution it would be Synology.  FreeNAS was really attractive, given the
high level of configurability it offered.

Since I had an existing NAS, a DLink NAS-345 running five drives in RAID 5,
I have continued to use it.  However, realizing that a single volume RAID 5
setup did not provide the redundancy and setup I desired, I wiped it and
went to four drives in a Mirrored RAID configuration with two volumes. So I
have two separate volumes, each running on two mirrored drives.

This gives me the integrity and redundancy desired for my files for now. It
also gives me a performance gain over the previous single volume RAID 5
arrangement as well.

Not perfect, but it meets my needs. I pull the mirrors once a month and
rotate them out with another drive. The current drives go in the fire safe.

Dan


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 On Dec 5, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
 
 On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 I copy (via automatic program) all changes to the folders I'm 
 interested in (photos, documents, music, etc.) from the primary disk 
 to a second disk in the PC, then again to an external disk. and on 
 one of our PCs, to a second external disk.. Very cheap and simple, it 
 all happens when I'm asleep, and I have three or four copies of 
 everything. when one disk dies, I just replace it, and it gets auto 
 brought up to date. I fought with SANs, NASs, and RAID at work for 
 years,
didn't want to mess with it at home.
 
 
 I used to do something similar, but recent viruses have taken to 
 destroying files in all online storage devices (then charging a 
 bitcoin ransom for the recovery key, which may or may not work).  I 
 have thought about investing in a tape drive (which is ironic given my 
 employer :) but in practice I just keep a USB disk offline, and bring 
 it up occasionally to do the replication.  The problem with rotating 
 storage is that it needs to be spinning to keep working, so I can't 
 leave it in a drawer and expect it to work.  There were some good 
 deals on 64G USB sticks last week, but I didn't buy any since I don't 
 have
a good plan for using them.
 
 Anyway, given the state of viruses, I would definitely recommend 
 keeping a solid-state backup - flash, or DVD, or an offline disk - 
 rather than depending on a system that uses Windows shares.
 
 To the original post, Synology is a good choice for low power, low 
 noise, high configurability, reasonable cost and reliability.  If you 
 roll your own, I have to agree with Dan that FreeNAS is the way to go.
 If you are willing to lose some abilities, many of the 802.11ac 
 routers have USB ports that will accept a USB drive (or even multiple
 drives) and expose Windows and NFS shares.
 
 Merry Christmas to all,
 Tim
 

[MBZ] Long Term Quality Index

2014-12-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Interesting read for those of you into statistics:

http://tradeinqualityindex.com

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap

2014-12-08 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

I removed the windshield wipers and the air intake grille, and
lubricated the blower fan.  (Again.  Has it really been eight years?)
Got my wrist all scraped up, again.  I hate this job.  I used Mobil 1
5W20 motor oil.  The pot-metal casting for the passenger-side
windshield wiper blade broke while I was putting it back.  Evil stuff,
that pot metal.  It seems to be intact enough to hold together even
broken as it is, but this does not please me.  Anyway, the fan is
working again.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap

2014-12-08 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

And ATTABOY!

Wilton

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I removed the windshield wipers and the air intake grille, and
lubricated the blower fan.  (Again.  Has it really been eight years?)
Got my wrist all scraped up, again.  I hate this job.  I used Mobil 1
5W20 motor oil.  The pot-metal casting for the passenger-side
windshield wiper blade broke while I was putting it back.  Evil stuff,
that pot metal.  It seems to be intact enough to hold together even
broken as it is, but this does not please me.  Anyway, the fan is
working again.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap

2014-12-08 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Oh minor stuff!

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 On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:43 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 The blower fuse fried again, and the muffler just fell off.
 Again.  Perhaps the car is trying to tell me something?
 
 -- Jim
 
 
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