Re: [MBZ] "ignition" switch
> fmiser wrote: > > after a stop I got in to start the car and the key would not turn. > > I finally got it to turn... > I promptly removed the tumbler and got a pair of long nose > pliers from the trunk to turn the mechanism. > > Much to my surprise, when I tried to start the car, > the "key" wouldn't turn!! Huh? In the base of the rotating > assembly is a little lever that is supposed to move toward > the center. It was getting hung up. With the aid of my > small pocket screwdriver I was able to easily encourage it > to move - and then the "key" turned easily. > > I haven't yet determined the cause of the problem - but > wondered if any of you have had a similar problem. Or am I > yet again finding new and creative failures... I Took apart the old lock today. It was not reliable, so I didn't mind risking destroying it. And I found the problem. A piece of the steering wheel lock rod lift assembly was broken off. Unfortunately, there were casualties during the disassemble process so other parts weren't working quite right when I put it back together. So I put the parts in a ziplock bag and pulled a lock unit out of a parts car. If the key turns - or the tumbler is out - removing the lock is pretty easy. Unplug the wires and hoses, loosen the clamp, press the hidden release button and out it comes. Oh, the instrument cluster was out. It _might_ be possible to get the lock in/out with the cluster in place, but it would be rather tricky. I notice vacuum value on the old one was oozing black oil. That's the classic symptom of a leak in the shutoff pod on the injection pump. My hand operated vacuum pump confirmed it didn't hold. To the parts cars again! Before putting it all back together again, I blew out the lines with brake cleaner by wrapping the end of the snorkel tube with electrical tape until it was large enough in diameter to fit tight into the rubber hose on the end of the hard vacuum lines. I then used the air compressor to blow dry the lines. It's all back together and the key turns smoothly. Next is figuring out why the starter motor occasionally spins but doesn't turn the engine... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] TRW clutch master cylinder dies
For those with good memory - or who take notes - not yet six months have passed since I put in a new master cylinder for the clutch. For the last month I have been needing to add brake/clutch fluid but couldn't figure out where it was leaking. Well I figured it out. The main seal on the clutch master cylinder. It leaks only when under pressure, so as long as I don't ever step on the clutch pedal it doesn't leak. Less than 6 months. And the TRW didn't fit right. I had to grind about 3 mm off the end of the short rod to make it work. This time it will be a FAG or FTE, just like I really wanted last time. Autohaus has an FTE for $66 and the short rod for $6. Now that I _know_ that's what this car needs I can (hopefully) get the pieces I need. But this weekend I was working on the steering lock... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Separate ground rod - was OT: Tesla Pwerwall
> Mitch wrote > I read somewhere that the electronics [in mini-split units] > (especially in the LG brand units) were quite sensitive to > voltage spikes and ground issues, so I drove a dedicated > ground rod right under the unit and never subjected it to > homemade power, and always turned it off during storms, and > I'd often cut the breaker to it when the lights started > blinking during a storm. It may be counter intuitive, but a separate ground rod is a _bad_ idea - especially for anything that is sensitive! For safety and for the well being of equipment, there should be one and _only_one_ connection from building electrical ground to earth ground for each post-transformer electric system. That is most houses since almost all houses are supplied from one transformer. If there is more than one rod, all the rods should be linked together and still have only one connection to the building electrical ground. The ground (dirt) is not some magical electrical super sponge that will "soak up" any and all electricity. It is a conductor - and usually a rather poor conductor. That means Ohm's law applies and _that_ means if there are two rods and there is a lot of current flowing through the conductor called dirt there will be a difference in voltage between the two rods. And that means there will be electricity flowing. That current flow can burn up wires or equipment. All that to say - multiple rods are okay ONLY if they are all connected together an the group is connected to the building at one place only. I have issues with this as my telephone ground is not at the same place as my electrical ground. It is pretty rough on any gear that's connected to both. Like a cordless 'phone base, modem, etc. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A gathering of Eagles
Watching a "gathering of Eagles" about SAC in the early 60s. Lots of B-52 time. It makes me think of Wilton and what he must have gone through. Watching 15 second interval takeoffs with the air filled with black smoke! Cool Stuff! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Won't Start
Check to see if the fuel pump(s) run when you flip the key on, and also run when it is cranking. If not, the relay is bad, sadly it's the monster electronic one on that car, I believe. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Won't Start
Look at the fuel pump(s) and it's relay if there's more than one fuel pump, then check power to them. On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Unfortunately, the 1995 and earlier models had analog diagnostics, so the > only thing I can check is the little blinky LED under the hood. At least > it’s something. > > I don’t think the battery is the culprit, as the car was running down the > road just fine when it quit. Belt is intact and there was no prior > warning, like an alternator light. > > When you crank it it fires, but as soon as you let off the starter it dies. > > I’m wondering if these cars have the equivalent of the overvoltage relay > in other models? Doesn’t the overvoltage relay cause similar symptoms? > > I’ve got the car back in the driveway. First thing I’ll do is sweep the > fuses and make sure everything there is good. Then I’ll look at possible > codes from the LED. I’ve got to check my maintenance records, but I don’t > recall when or if I’ve done a fuel filter on this car. If I have it’s been > a while. > > Keep those suggestions coming, folks, I’m all ears. I know there aren’t > many W140 folks here, but I’ll take what I can get. I’ve got something > posted over in the W140 forums at MBenzWorld as well, so hopefully I’ll > have some messages in the morning. > > Thanks to all, > > Dan > > > > > On May 10, 2015, at 9:58 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > COmpression, fuel and ignition. I doubt compression has changed unless > someone sugared his gas tank. I have no idea how you check ignition on > these COP gassers. That leaves fuel ( and battery.) > > > > We had a battery that would crank the 380SL, but the fuel relay would > not hold in. After I changed fuel pump, filter and the relay it still > wouldn't start right. A new battery made it good, and all the old parts > were ok too. > > > > I guess you can use a scanner to see what it says. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Won't Start
Unfortunately, the 1995 and earlier models had analog diagnostics, so the only thing I can check is the little blinky LED under the hood. At least it’s something. I don’t think the battery is the culprit, as the car was running down the road just fine when it quit. Belt is intact and there was no prior warning, like an alternator light. When you crank it it fires, but as soon as you let off the starter it dies. I’m wondering if these cars have the equivalent of the overvoltage relay in other models? Doesn’t the overvoltage relay cause similar symptoms? I’ve got the car back in the driveway. First thing I’ll do is sweep the fuses and make sure everything there is good. Then I’ll look at possible codes from the LED. I’ve got to check my maintenance records, but I don’t recall when or if I’ve done a fuel filter on this car. If I have it’s been a while. Keep those suggestions coming, folks, I’m all ears. I know there aren’t many W140 folks here, but I’ll take what I can get. I’ve got something posted over in the W140 forums at MBenzWorld as well, so hopefully I’ll have some messages in the morning. Thanks to all, Dan > On May 10, 2015, at 9:58 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > COmpression, fuel and ignition. I doubt compression has changed unless > someone sugared his gas tank. I have no idea how you check ignition on these > COP gassers. That leaves fuel ( and battery.) > > We had a battery that would crank the 380SL, but the fuel relay would not > hold in. After I changed fuel pump, filter and the relay it still > wouldn't start right. A new battery made it good, and all the old parts were > ok too. > > I guess you can use a scanner to see what it says. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Road trip anyone?
I didn't see an asking price. WTF. On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Aw shucks! I guess it is up to Max, Scott or grant to find a way to get > us there. > > I was there 'bout 20 years ago when Kathy K came out to present the > charter at the Cannon Club. > It is the only brand new, shiney section I've been in. My first and > present section is 42 years old. It was a couple years old when I joined. > Still pretty new, but not as new as the Hawaii section was. > > > 'Fraid I've aged out of any contacts I might have had. Thanks for the >> vote of confidence, though. >> >> However, SWMBO and I could probably make it via C-117. ;<) >> >> Wilton >> >> - Original Message - From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Cc: "Curly McLain" <126die...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 11:50 PM >> Subject: [MBZ] Road trip anyone? >> >> MBCA Hawaii Section >>> Celebrating 5 Years of Aloha >>> Saturday, May 16 at 11:30am in UTC-10 >>> Kualoa Ranch in Honolulu, Hawaii >>> >>> Started about 20 years ago. >>> >>> Rejuvenated by Chuck Landenberger >>> >>> The celebration includes a memorial to Chuck. >>> >>> Includes a bit of air travel to get there in time. >>> >>> Maybe Wilton can wrangle us a C-117 to transport us there and back, or >>> Max could do the navy equivalent. >>> >>> BTW, the Hawaii section bylaws were patterned from the Iowa Section >>> bylaws. Kathy Kennel at the time said the Iowa section was not the biggest >>> but one of the best run sections. >>> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Shoes for the 240D/3.0
Got several k miles on my Goform tires @ $50 and have LOVED every minute. Andrew 1983 300TD white/blue; 340 K miles On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I ordered 2 Goodyear eagles 15" from local tire pros for 84.00 each today. > Also free winter/summer tire changeover. > On May 9, 2015 4:47 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" > > wrote: > > > Looks like this website has the best prices and a nice big selection. > Too > > bad they are west coast which brings the shipping cost up. > > > > https://www.onlinetires.com/index.php > > > > - > > Max > > Charleston SC > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
I did find these two generators on CL that look interesting - - http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/tls/5016446899.html for the dual fuel and smaller loads. http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/fod/4978584521.html for the larger loads. On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >> Ha! Oklahoma does not admit to the existence of solar power. The hangar >> roof ridge runs E-W, so I have a good 1000 ft2 to mount panels on. >> As is, the HVAC wants 83A on start, 15A running. I will need the >> "Intellistart" soft start thing to reduce that start-up current. >> > > Sounds like a scroll compressor about twice as big as mine. > Mine is about 7A running, takes a 20A HACR breaker, and > 47 LRA. I think I started it on the 3650W Homelite, but I can't be sure. > The 5000W/10-11hp class generators all run it easily, the ones I've had > were rated at 20-24A. I've got a hard start kit but not a soft start. The > hard start drastically reduces spin-up time but doesn't change peak amps. > > > Mitch > -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Won't Start
All of 'em if more than one (likely). Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes List" Cc: "Dan Penoff" Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Won't Start I'll check my records. If I did it's been a while. Good suggestion. Thanks! Not a lot I can do here in the way of diagnostics. As soon as I get it home it will be much easier. Dan On May 10, 2015, at 9:58 PM, WILTON wrote: Have ya changed the fuel filter since you've had it? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes List" Cc: "Dan Penoff" Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 9:41 PM Subject: [MBZ] S500 Won't Start I'm out on the side of the road with my son's S500 coupe. He says he was driving down the road and it just quit on him. He pulled over and attempted to restart the car without any luck. He said it did start and idle for a minute, then quit again and would not restart. Plenty of fuel, all the electrics appear to be OK. It cranks and fires, then dies. I'm wondering where to start. I'm thinking possible fuel pump problems, or fuel pressure regulator. He's mentioned that it's hard to start occasionally, which makes me suspect fuel. Is there a way to check fuel pressure without a gauge? I know Harbor Freight has some pressure gauges, but I thought they would work on Mercedes? Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Won't Start
So, hook another battery via jumper cables to it and see if it keeps running? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Curly McLain" <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Won't Start COmpression, fuel and ignition. I doubt compression has changed unless someone sugared his gas tank. I have no idea how you check ignition on these COP gassers. That leaves fuel ( and battery.) We had a battery that would crank the 380SL, but the fuel relay would not hold in. After I changed fuel pump, filter and the relay it still wouldn't start right. A new battery made it good, and all the old parts were ok too. I guess you can use a scanner to see what it says. I'm out on the side of the road with my son's S500 coupe. He says he was driving down the road and it just quit on him. He pulled over and attempted to restart the car without any luck. He said it did start and idle for a minute, then quit again and would not restart. Plenty of fuel, all the electrics appear to be OK. It cranks and fires, then dies. I'm wondering where to start. I'm thinking possible fuel pump problems, or fuel pressure regulator. He's mentioned that it's hard to start occasionally, which makes me suspect fuel. Is there a way to check fuel pressure without a gauge? I know Harbor Freight has some pressure gauges, but I thought they would work on Mercedes? Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Won't Start
I'll check my records. If I did it's been a while. Good suggestion. Thanks! Not a lot I can do here in the way of diagnostics. As soon as I get it home it will be much easier. Dan > On May 10, 2015, at 9:58 PM, WILTON wrote: > > Have ya changed the fuel filter since you've had it? > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" > > To: "Mercedes List" > Cc: "Dan Penoff" > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 9:41 PM > Subject: [MBZ] S500 Won't Start > > >> I'm out on the side of the road with my son's S500 coupe. He says he was >> driving down the road and it just quit on him. He pulled over and attempted >> to restart the car without any luck. He said it did start and idle for a >> minute, then quit again and would not restart. Plenty of fuel, all the >> electrics appear to be OK. It cranks and fires, then dies. I'm wondering >> where to start. I'm thinking possible fuel pump problems, or fuel pressure >> regulator. He's mentioned that it's hard to start occasionally, which makes >> me suspect fuel. >> >> Is there a way to check fuel pressure without a gauge? I know Harbor Freight >> has some pressure gauges, but I thought they would work on Mercedes? >> >> Any and all suggestions are welcome. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dan >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S500 Won't Start
COmpression, fuel and ignition. I doubt compression has changed unless someone sugared his gas tank. I have no idea how you check ignition on these COP gassers. That leaves fuel ( and battery.) We had a battery that would crank the 380SL, but the fuel relay would not hold in. After I changed fuel pump, filter and the relay it still wouldn't start right. A new battery made it good, and all the old parts were ok too. I guess you can use a scanner to see what it says. I'm out on the side of the road with my son's S500 coupe. He says he was driving down the road and it just quit on him. He pulled over and attempted to restart the car without any luck. He said it did start and idle for a minute, then quit again and would not restart. Plenty of fuel, all the electrics appear to be OK. It cranks and fires, then dies. I'm wondering where to start. I'm thinking possible fuel pump problems, or fuel pressure regulator. He's mentioned that it's hard to start occasionally, which makes me suspect fuel. Is there a way to check fuel pressure without a gauge? I know Harbor Freight has some pressure gauges, but I thought they would work on Mercedes? Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] S500 Won't Start
I'm out on the side of the road with my son's S500 coupe. He says he was driving down the road and it just quit on him. He pulled over and attempted to restart the car without any luck. He said it did start and idle for a minute, then quit again and would not restart. Plenty of fuel, all the electrics appear to be OK. It cranks and fires, then dies. I'm wondering where to start. I'm thinking possible fuel pump problems, or fuel pressure regulator. He's mentioned that it's hard to start occasionally, which makes me suspect fuel. Is there a way to check fuel pressure without a gauge? I know Harbor Freight has some pressure gauges, but I thought they would work on Mercedes? Any and all suggestions are welcome. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
Good to know, I have 2 LG units, will have to keep that in mind --R (sent from my miniPad) On May 11, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: > I have a generator on wheels that the PO of our house left us, last time I > used it was when my temp power panel was arcing and sparking and it took > awhile to get the powerco here, but it fired right up after not using it a > coupla years. (I know I should really tend to it...). It has 220V and 110V > output and is like 6000W or so, so it can run a fridge and other stuff easy > enough, maybe even one of my mini-split units now as they are not too much of > a load. My Fujitsu inverter drive mini-split would easily run on just about any generator except the little 1000W things, but I never tried it. I read somewhere that the electronics (especially in the LG brand units) were quite sensitive to voltage spikes and ground issues, so I drove a dedicated ground rod right under the unit and never subjected it to homemade power, and always turned it off during storms, and I'd often cut the breaker to it when the lights started blinking during a storm. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Ha! Oklahoma does not admit to the existence of solar power. The hangar roof ridge runs E-W, so I have a good 1000 ft2 to mount panels on. As is, the HVAC wants 83A on start, 15A running. I will need the "Intellistart" soft start thing to reduce that start-up current. Sounds like a scroll compressor about twice as big as mine. Mine is about 7A running, takes a 20A HACR breaker, and 47 LRA. I think I started it on the 3650W Homelite, but I can't be sure. The 5000W/10-11hp class generators all run it easily, the ones I've had were rated at 20-24A. I've got a hard start kit but not a soft start. The hard start drastically reduces spin-up time but doesn't change peak amps. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: I have a generator on wheels that the PO of our house left us, last time I used it was when my temp power panel was arcing and sparking and it took awhile to get the powerco here, but it fired right up after not using it a coupla years. (I know I should really tend to it...). It has 220V and 110V output and is like 6000W or so, so it can run a fridge and other stuff easy enough, maybe even one of my mini-split units now as they are not too much of a load. My Fujitsu inverter drive mini-split would easily run on just about any generator except the little 1000W things, but I never tried it. I read somewhere that the electronics (especially in the LG brand units) were quite sensitive to voltage spikes and ground issues, so I drove a dedicated ground rod right under the unit and never subjected it to homemade power, and always turned it off during storms, and I'd often cut the breaker to it when the lights started blinking during a storm. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
Curly wrote: Once again the Cathey solution is good. I thought the Cathey solution I recall from pictures at the Cathey compound was a very large vintage military generator, Jim? Maybe that wasn't Cathey? Cathey is Spokane, correct? mao Jim is the VOICE of experience! He found out firsthand that generators suck a lot of go juice. Yes, he has a monster generator, and some others. The sensible thing to do when the power is out, is to adapt. We've been through lots of power outages up to maybe 12 hours. Hardly Katrina proportions. A wood stove (with wood), a 24" LP gas stove, and candles are all we've ever needed. If OKieDonn puts in the soft start for the heat pump, a 5500W generator should pul the load. A second could power the pump and other household necessities In a Katrina Situation, the most important thing is to keep the refrigerator going. A little extra juice for a couple lights is nice. Air cond to keep things from molding becomes a nice thing after 2 days or so, but is not needed to support life. I always looked on a power outage as an adventure and a chance to test out the situation. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
'Even have an MD-3, don'tcha, Jim? I powered B-47E's on the ground with 'em and saw many of 'em powering B-52's on the ground. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Jim Cathey" Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall To paraphrase the Bible, my house has _many_ generators! He was referring only to that most recent suggestion. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
To paraphrase the Bible, my house has _many_ generators! He was referring only to that most recent suggestion. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
Curly wrote: > Once again the Cathey solution is good. I thought the Cathey solution I recall from pictures at the Cathey compound was a very large vintage military generator, Jim? Maybe that wasn't Cathey? Cathey is Spokane, correct? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
Hard to argue with the cost/benefit ratio of the basic rope-pull 5-6kW genny. WAY better than no power at all, and will run most anything you need to. Can even heat up the hot water tank for a shower, if you turn off everything else. (About 4kW for most hot water heaters, IIRC.) -- Jim Once again the Cathey solution is good. the battery bank with a big solar array will make a good backup system. It will cost big $ but reduced load use from the powerco and tax breaks may make it more attractive. A crunched electric/hybrid car or forklift batteries may make for inexpensive battery power. You might build it as a separate system, so it won't / can't feed into the grid, but it will be expensive. one or two small gas engine portable generators of 5-6000 watts should power what you need. As you say, you can cook on a propane grill. Another option for heat is a outside wood furnace, but installed cost is $5-10k and it won't keep you cool. For my daughter's house in Katrina country, we looked at several options, but ended up with a generac 5500w portable and the little kohler 125v as a backup to the generac. She has a gas grill and good neighbors, so I am sure by working together they can get through anything. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
Hard to argue with the cost/benefit ratio of the basic rope-pull 5-6kW genny. WAY better than no power at all, and will run most anything you need to. Can even heat up the hot water tank for a shower, if you turn off everything else. (About 4kW for most hot water heaters, IIRC.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
Ha! Oklahoma does not admit to the existence of solar power. The hangar roof ridge runs E-W, so I have a good 1000 ft2 to mount panels on. As is, the HVAC wants 83A on start, 15A running. I will need the "Intellistart" soft start thing to reduce that start-up current. On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Does your electric co have a solar option now? SC just passed the law a > year or so ago allowing home solar systems to tie into the grid and now > various companies are doing leases with no upfront costs. Not too many in > yet but those who have done them report they are saving money on > electricity what with the panels and sell-back to the utility. If you have > 200ft2 of good clear roof space, and whatever on your house, you could > probably get by with solar and batteries, unless of course the storms > destroy your panels... in which case you would need some fuel-based > generation anyway. You would have to look at demand on your HVAC to see > what solar/battery could do. > > As far as the water pump, any small generator could get that thing > running, HF or not. > > BTW I had a very nice expensive Milwaukee battery drill blow up in my face > once while up about 25ft on a ladder working on a gutter. THAT was a fun > experience, I seriously thought someone had shot me. I contacted Milwaukee > and they were all over that like a duck on a frog, fedexed a new battery > pack and a box to send mine back in. Sometime later I saw there was a > recall on the batteries for explosion hazards. NiCd or NiMH, I forget > which, tended to generate hydrogen into the closed battery pack and a good > load would cause an arc and BAM! I took my 2 back for replacements, never > had any problems with them other than they pretty much failed after not > long. With HF stuff I figure if it has more than one moving part it will > fail sooner rather than later. That said, I have had a $20 recip saw I > have beat on extensively and it is still going strong. The $200 tile saw is > pretty decent too, no problems with it. > > --R > > > > > On 5/10/15 1:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >> Rich and Mitch - thanks for the input. While today is a no heating/cooling >> needed day, we get below 0 and over 100 here every year, plus the >> tornadoes >> and earthquakes. I do have a 500gal. propane tank that is only being used >> for the gas grill now, so propane is an option, but those 10 - 12 KW >> generators suck the liquid propane at a high rate, and propane is an >> EXPENSIVE fuel. I also keep 55 gals. of gasoline on hand for the airplane, >> as well as the gas in the plane and truck tanks, so I'm thinking gasoline >> is the better fuel source now, but being able to use either and demand >> would be even better. >> >> The well pump is submerged 300 ft. down a hole, a belt won't run it :-) I >> can do without the electric hot water, and use the gas grill for cooking, >> so the major loads are the 1/2 HP well and the geothermal heat pump. I >> need >> to get a soft-start kit installed on the heat pump, the initial >> starting load is pretty high. >> >> A generator runs regardless of the load while the grid is down. I'm >> thinking that the battery would run all the time, and the generator only >> as >> needed to charge the battery. I also have the roof of the 40X50ft. hangar >> to mount solar cells on. Maybe between solar, a generator, and a battery, >> I >> can lose the electric company all together? >> >> After having the ½" HF drill burst into flames in my hand while mixing >> mortor for a floor tiling job, I won't be buying any more power tools from >> them, and I'm putting their generators into that category. >> >> A big tank on a stand is a good idea - I have a food grade plastic 55 gal. >> tank that my wife was going to use to collect rain water for the garden >> in. >> Just need to get it up and in the system. Maybe mount it on top of the >> well >> house. >> >> >> On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> I have a generator on wheels that the PO of our house left us, last time >>> I >>> used it was when my temp power panel was arcing and sparking and it took >>> awhile to get the powerco here, but it fired right up after not using it >>> a >>> coupla years. (I know I should really tend to it...). It has 220V and >>> 110V output and is like 6000W or so, so it can run a fridge and other >>> stuff >>> easy enough, maybe even one of my mini-split units now as they are not >>> too >>> much of a load. I'd think having a generator like this would be fine for >>> your occasional needs, and doesn't cost $3k or whatever those Tesla >>> thingies will be, plus whatever the install cost is. Harbor Freight has >>> those little units for not much, if all you need to run is a well pump. >>> Most work you could have to do is rig up a switch on your well pump to >>> run >>> it off mains or your generator with a cord. O
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
Does your electric co have a solar option now? SC just passed the law a year or so ago allowing home solar systems to tie into the grid and now various companies are doing leases with no upfront costs. Not too many in yet but those who have done them report they are saving money on electricity what with the panels and sell-back to the utility. If you have 200ft2 of good clear roof space, and whatever on your house, you could probably get by with solar and batteries, unless of course the storms destroy your panels... in which case you would need some fuel-based generation anyway. You would have to look at demand on your HVAC to see what solar/battery could do. As far as the water pump, any small generator could get that thing running, HF or not. BTW I had a very nice expensive Milwaukee battery drill blow up in my face once while up about 25ft on a ladder working on a gutter. THAT was a fun experience, I seriously thought someone had shot me. I contacted Milwaukee and they were all over that like a duck on a frog, fedexed a new battery pack and a box to send mine back in. Sometime later I saw there was a recall on the batteries for explosion hazards. NiCd or NiMH, I forget which, tended to generate hydrogen into the closed battery pack and a good load would cause an arc and BAM! I took my 2 back for replacements, never had any problems with them other than they pretty much failed after not long. With HF stuff I figure if it has more than one moving part it will fail sooner rather than later. That said, I have had a $20 recip saw I have beat on extensively and it is still going strong. The $200 tile saw is pretty decent too, no problems with it. --R On 5/10/15 1:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Rich and Mitch - thanks for the input. While today is a no heating/cooling needed day, we get below 0 and over 100 here every year, plus the tornadoes and earthquakes. I do have a 500gal. propane tank that is only being used for the gas grill now, so propane is an option, but those 10 - 12 KW generators suck the liquid propane at a high rate, and propane is an EXPENSIVE fuel. I also keep 55 gals. of gasoline on hand for the airplane, as well as the gas in the plane and truck tanks, so I'm thinking gasoline is the better fuel source now, but being able to use either and demand would be even better. The well pump is submerged 300 ft. down a hole, a belt won't run it :-) I can do without the electric hot water, and use the gas grill for cooking, so the major loads are the 1/2 HP well and the geothermal heat pump. I need to get a soft-start kit installed on the heat pump, the initial starting load is pretty high. A generator runs regardless of the load while the grid is down. I'm thinking that the battery would run all the time, and the generator only as needed to charge the battery. I also have the roof of the 40X50ft. hangar to mount solar cells on. Maybe between solar, a generator, and a battery, I can lose the electric company all together? After having the ½" HF drill burst into flames in my hand while mixing mortor for a floor tiling job, I won't be buying any more power tools from them, and I'm putting their generators into that category. A big tank on a stand is a good idea - I have a food grade plastic 55 gal. tank that my wife was going to use to collect rain water for the garden in. Just need to get it up and in the system. Maybe mount it on top of the well house. On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I have a generator on wheels that the PO of our house left us, last time I used it was when my temp power panel was arcing and sparking and it took awhile to get the powerco here, but it fired right up after not using it a coupla years. (I know I should really tend to it...). It has 220V and 110V output and is like 6000W or so, so it can run a fridge and other stuff easy enough, maybe even one of my mini-split units now as they are not too much of a load. I'd think having a generator like this would be fine for your occasional needs, and doesn't cost $3k or whatever those Tesla thingies will be, plus whatever the install cost is. Harbor Freight has those little units for not much, if all you need to run is a well pump. Most work you could have to do is rig up a switch on your well pump to run it off mains or your generator with a cord. Or just put a belt on it and run it off a little engine? Or put a big tank on a stand! If you are located in serious weather area though, it might make sense to install a whole-house backup system running off propane or diesel or whatever. I looked into those a coupla years ago, a number like $10k is what I recall. Out here where I live at the end of the grid on the coast I should probably look into that again, but there are always other priorities... if worse comes to worse I guess I could just rough it or get by with the occasional generator run if I need power for some
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
Rich and Mitch - thanks for the input. While today is a no heating/cooling needed day, we get below 0 and over 100 here every year, plus the tornadoes and earthquakes. I do have a 500gal. propane tank that is only being used for the gas grill now, so propane is an option, but those 10 - 12 KW generators suck the liquid propane at a high rate, and propane is an EXPENSIVE fuel. I also keep 55 gals. of gasoline on hand for the airplane, as well as the gas in the plane and truck tanks, so I'm thinking gasoline is the better fuel source now, but being able to use either and demand would be even better. The well pump is submerged 300 ft. down a hole, a belt won't run it :-) I can do without the electric hot water, and use the gas grill for cooking, so the major loads are the 1/2 HP well and the geothermal heat pump. I need to get a soft-start kit installed on the heat pump, the initial starting load is pretty high. A generator runs regardless of the load while the grid is down. I'm thinking that the battery would run all the time, and the generator only as needed to charge the battery. I also have the roof of the 40X50ft. hangar to mount solar cells on. Maybe between solar, a generator, and a battery, I can lose the electric company all together? After having the ½" HF drill burst into flames in my hand while mixing mortor for a floor tiling job, I won't be buying any more power tools from them, and I'm putting their generators into that category. A big tank on a stand is a good idea - I have a food grade plastic 55 gal. tank that my wife was going to use to collect rain water for the garden in. Just need to get it up and in the system. Maybe mount it on top of the well house. On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have a generator on wheels that the PO of our house left us, last time I > used it was when my temp power panel was arcing and sparking and it took > awhile to get the powerco here, but it fired right up after not using it a > coupla years. (I know I should really tend to it...). It has 220V and > 110V output and is like 6000W or so, so it can run a fridge and other stuff > easy enough, maybe even one of my mini-split units now as they are not too > much of a load. I'd think having a generator like this would be fine for > your occasional needs, and doesn't cost $3k or whatever those Tesla > thingies will be, plus whatever the install cost is. Harbor Freight has > those little units for not much, if all you need to run is a well pump. > Most work you could have to do is rig up a switch on your well pump to run > it off mains or your generator with a cord. Or just put a belt on it and > run it off a little engine? Or put a big tank on a stand! > > If you are located in serious weather area though, it might make sense to > install a whole-house backup system running off propane or diesel or > whatever. I looked into those a coupla years ago, a number like $10k is > what I recall. Out here where I live at the end of the grid on the coast I > should probably look into that again, but there are always other > priorities... if worse comes to worse I guess I could just rough it or get > by with the occasional generator run if I need power for something. > > --R > > > > On 5/10/15 12:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >> Is anyone paying attention to these? A power outage of 2.75 hours this >> morning got my attention. >> We are "on" a water well, no power, no water. We have threatened to >> purchase and install a back-up generator for three years now, but always >> hesitate when it comes time to size one, and realizing that we want it all >> - which costs a lot to purchase, and more to operate. >> >> I'm wondering if installing a "powerwall" would allow a smaller generator >> to run periodically instead of continuously, thus lowering the operating >> costs. If a generator is auto, or on demand starting, it would only run >> when it sees the powerwall losing capacity, charge it up, and shut off. I >> guess the generator would have to be able to both power the house and >> charge the powerwall, so might still have to be big? >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://
Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac
I'll look around for it the next coupla days. I recall the ones I have are only about 2" long and the body is only maybe 1" dia. One is still in the bag though, so will have the part #. --R On 5/9/15 6:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Here is the par number: 123 800 31 75 Genuine Mercedes - A/C Vacuum Actuator; For Leg Room Flap 1 per car. It is round, about 2" dia and about 2" long. I think I have a 123 vac pod that came with the 79 TD, it might still be in the glove box or in some parts bin, I am guessing it would either be the same or would work. There are 3 of these in the TD, the PO who was a mechanic asserted that the pods were the reason the AC was not working and provided 2 of them new with the car, though after changing one (a miserable job up under the dash and behind the glove box) I determined that the cause was a leaky refrigerant system and never further messed with it. If you want I can check to find it and if it would work I can send it along. I might have kept the old one too, which was actually working but it would now be 36yo whereas the newer one would be more like 13 or 14, whenever we bought the car. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
I have a generator on wheels that the PO of our house left us, last time I used it was when my temp power panel was arcing and sparking and it took awhile to get the powerco here, but it fired right up after not using it a coupla years. (I know I should really tend to it...). It has 220V and 110V output and is like 6000W or so, so it can run a fridge and other stuff easy enough, maybe even one of my mini-split units now as they are not too much of a load. I'd think having a generator like this would be fine for your occasional needs, and doesn't cost $3k or whatever those Tesla thingies will be, plus whatever the install cost is. Harbor Freight has those little units for not much, if all you need to run is a well pump. Most work you could have to do is rig up a switch on your well pump to run it off mains or your generator with a cord. Or just put a belt on it and run it off a little engine? Or put a big tank on a stand! If you are located in serious weather area though, it might make sense to install a whole-house backup system running off propane or diesel or whatever. I looked into those a coupla years ago, a number like $10k is what I recall. Out here where I live at the end of the grid on the coast I should probably look into that again, but there are always other priorities... if worse comes to worse I guess I could just rough it or get by with the occasional generator run if I need power for something. --R On 5/10/15 12:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Is anyone paying attention to these? A power outage of 2.75 hours this morning got my attention. We are "on" a water well, no power, no water. We have threatened to purchase and install a back-up generator for three years now, but always hesitate when it comes time to size one, and realizing that we want it all - which costs a lot to purchase, and more to operate. I'm wondering if installing a "powerwall" would allow a smaller generator to run periodically instead of continuously, thus lowering the operating costs. If a generator is auto, or on demand starting, it would only run when it sees the powerwall losing capacity, charge it up, and shut off. I guess the generator would have to be able to both power the house and charge the powerwall, so might still have to be big? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
The most efficient portable generator I ever had was a Husky (Homelite 3650) with a Subaru engine. It could run my entire house except for my water heater. It bogged down and only put about 200v into the water heater. I figured that was abusive and didn't use it for that. If you have electric range or oven, you can pretty much forget about running those on any generator I'd want to pay for. I can find them on CL for $200-300, the $300 ones are in mint condition. The current version can be had at HD under the Ridgid name for $499, maybe $400 on sale. The Harbor Freight copy is well below $300 new with a good sale and a 25% off coupon. Here's a couple of examples of the next size larger: http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/tls/4994573134.html http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/for/4982589156.html http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/for/4997829453.html Oh, I forgot about your heat pump. What's the starting amps on that? I could run my 1.5 ton air source heat pump on the 6.5HP Husky, but maybe you'd be better off with something like this with a propane kit, or maybe get a 10-15kw backup system? http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/tld/5014181994.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
Ah, that's the issue - heat is from the Geothermal heat pump - a big pump motor and smaller compressor motor needs to start/run to keep the pipes from freezing. Once we're that far, might as well power the whole house. On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sounds complicated just for water. Get one of the really small generators > to power your well pump, maybe pay an electrician to install the proper > hook-up. Include provision for heat in the winter (furnace > blower/ignition?). > -- > > OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
Sounds complicated just for water. Get one of the really small generators to power your well pump, maybe pay an electrician to install the proper hook-up. Include provision for heat in the winter (furnace blower/ignition?). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Tesla Pwerwall
Is anyone paying attention to these? A power outage of 2.75 hours this morning got my attention. We are "on" a water well, no power, no water. We have threatened to purchase and install a back-up generator for three years now, but always hesitate when it comes time to size one, and realizing that we want it all - which costs a lot to purchase, and more to operate. I'm wondering if installing a "powerwall" would allow a smaller generator to run periodically instead of continuously, thus lowering the operating costs. If a generator is auto, or on demand starting, it would only run when it sees the powerwall losing capacity, charge it up, and shut off. I guess the generator would have to be able to both power the house and charge the powerwall, so might still have to be big? -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] cheap pod
here's a cheap pod http://www.ebay.com/itm/A-C-VACUUM-ELEMENT-FOR-MERCEDES-123-800-31-75-Behr-/181401650571?hash=item2a3c61858b&vxp=mtr thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE www.ricktheprinter.com www.letterpressmachinery.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tires link
They were more expensive on any tires I would actually buy. Sent from my iPhone > On May 10, 2015, at 8:22 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Sun, 10 May 2015 07:00:18 -0600 Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > >> On Sun, 10 May 2015 07:40:01 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >>> I wonder if tire prices will come down a bit now that oil is low? >>> Maybe I should wait another couple of months? >> >> Interesting thought. I have not looked for a corelation between oil >> prices and tire prices, so I don't know if there is any. > > Another tire source is the one Andrew mentioned a couple of months ago: > > www.tires-easy.com > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tires link
I doubt it. Grocery prices never did. Sent from my iPhone > On May 10, 2015, at 6:40 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > I wonder if tire prices will come down a bit now that oil is low? Maybe I > should wait another couple of months? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tires link
On Sun, 10 May 2015 07:00:18 -0600 Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Sun, 10 May 2015 07:40:01 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > > I wonder if tire prices will come down a bit now that oil is low? > > Maybe I should wait another couple of months? > > Interesting thought. I have not looked for a corelation between oil > prices and tire prices, so I don't know if there is any. Another tire source is the one Andrew mentioned a couple of months ago: www.tires-easy.com Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tires link
On Sun, 10 May 2015 07:40:01 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > I wonder if tire prices will come down a bit now that oil is low? > Maybe I should wait another couple of months? Interesting thought. I have not looked for a corelation between oil prices and tire prices, so I don't know if there is any. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New tires link
I wonder if tire prices will come down a bit now that oil is low? Maybe I should wait another couple of months? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
