Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I consider them to be interchangeable.  I've never taken one apart. 
In a pinch, I will use a WIX, but they don't look as good as the 
german filters.


Roger's STP filter may be a reboxed Mahle, since Mahle makes things 
in the US of A now.  The 'merkun filters for MBs have always been 
inferior.


Does anyone have the part number (or metric size) for the little 
orings that go on the center shaft of the  oil filter cap on OM61x 
and OM 60x engines?2 per oil filter housing.


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Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Woo, garage Keeped!
"1956 Chrysler impiril sedan"

My neighbor periodically says "I seen" he's a good neighbor so I try not to 
wince...

-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:17 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there
   
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/5436966640.html

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

If you're not doing Amazon Prime you're a lunatic. Its $100/year. If you buy 10 
things a year it pays for itself easily even if you don't use the music or 
video services.I use the music a lot, it lets you download to your phone or 
tablet...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 9:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle
   
If you do Amazon Prime it may not be that good of a deal from the Mann guys.  I 
have used them a few times for a case of air filters for the M119s I’ve got 
around here and had an oddball filter I needed like a cabin air filter that was 
more expensive elsewhere.

Dan
  
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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well, according to Chevron:

Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40 is formulated with ISOSYN
®
Technology. ISOSYN Technology is a combination of
premium base oils and high performance additives with
Chevron's formulating expertise that "Rivals Synthetic
Performance" and provides su
perb diesel engine parts
protection - all at an ou
tstanding value.

Does the bottle say "synthetic" on it?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It is full synthetic and is $19.99 a gallon at Wally World
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So can someone please clarify for me whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40
> is a synthetic or not?  I always wondered, and there’s nothing in the name
> that would give it away as such.  Based on the price I see it selling for,
> I’m assuming it’s not, too.
> >
> > Dan
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Grageet ov da pubic skool


Isn't that properly spelled "pubic skull"?
Seems right, anyhow.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Huh? If you watch the sales you should be able to get M1 for between 
$27 and $30 a gallon. Worst would be buying it in $10 quarts but 
thats still only $40 a gallon.The cheap stuff has to be almost free 
to get a difference of $30 per oil change and if its that cheap its 
got to be crap.

-Curt


Clay said per oil change, not per gallon.  I buy 2 gallons or 2 5 qt 
jugs per oil change in my MBs.  An OM603 takes roughly 7 qts.  The 
odd tailings get uses somewhere along the line.  Sometimes the 
tailings are enough that I only need to buy 1 jug.



Funny how Bob's simple question got turned into another oil thread!

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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

On the OM603 the O-rings are a part number 015 997 94 48, about a buck a piece 
retail from MB.  They’re the same part for the OM617 engine, too.

Dan




 
> On Feb 10, 2016, at 12:35 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I consider them to be interchangeable.  I've never taken one apart. In a 
> pinch, I will use a WIX, but they don't look as good as the german filters.
> 
> Roger's STP filter may be a reboxed Mahle, since Mahle makes things in the US 
> of A now.  The 'merkun filters for MBs have always been inferior.
> 
> Does anyone have the part number (or metric size) for the little orings that 
> go on the center shaft of the  oil filter cap on OM61x and OM 60x engines?
> 2 per oil filter housing.
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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

AutohausAZ has them for $0.35/each:

http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=yymtcine24q1sb45kh5hn5bt=800016@Mercedes=1194476@350SDL=1990=20@Engine%20Parts,%20Seals%20%26%20Gaskets=12430@Oil%20Filter%20Housing%20O-Ring

Of course, by the time you pay shipping they’ll cost you $5.00 each.  If you 
want some, let me know and I’ll grab a handful at the dealer next time I’m 
there.  A lot of times they’ll just hand stuff like this to me and send me on 
my way.



> On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On the OM603 the O-rings are a part number 015 997 94 48, about a buck a 
> piece retail from MB.  They’re the same part for the OM617 engine, too.
> 
> Dan
> 


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[MBZ] 124 evap drain

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I need to replace the evap drain tubes on a 87 300D 124.   Anyone 
BTDT?  Anyone able to look up the part number?  Thanks!


They appear to be some kind of foam.  I tried 3/4" heater hose.  That 
worked on some older cars.  It fits on the evap drain but won't go 
through the tunnel.


Maybe the original has a formed coupling on the evap end like some 
heater hoses.


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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On the OM603 the O-rings are a part number 015 997 94 48, about a 
buck a piece retail from MB.  They're the same part for the OM617 
engine, too.


Dan



Thanks Dan and Fred.  I used to buy 6 at a time from Q, but my supply 
is exhausted, and all the cars need them now.


I'll just tack them onto my next parts order.

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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Huh? If you watch the sales you should be able to get M1 for between $27 and 
$30 a gallon. Worst would be buying it in $10 quarts but thats still only $40 a 
gallon.The cheap stuff has to be almost free to get a difference of $30 per oil 
change and if its that cheap its got to be crap.
-Curt

  From: clay 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread
   
The less expensive oil comes to $0.01 per mile driven, instead of $0.24 with 
M1.  That is around $30 between not M1 and Mobil 1 for a change if I never 
drove the SL at all.  On a higher mileage basis, I would probably be even, 
doing two low cost oil changes to one M1 fill.

clay



On Feb 9, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

> If you only change the oil once a year you realize you'll be saving maybe $10 
> a year right?
> -Curt
> 
> 
>      From: clay 
> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
>  
> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 8:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread
> 
> I have not done any analysis since there is so little use on the car, and I 
> want to see how much hope and change I get with each oil swap.  I would 
> probably send it in at the last M1 drain, and then again the next swap out 
> with less expensive goo.  
> 
> clay
> 
> On Feb 9, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> Have you had analysis done to know exactly what the schmoo is?
>> My '85 190D had high iron levels when I got it that went down with each 
>> subsequent oil change until it would stay normal through a 10,000 mile run. 
>> The previous owner was kinda on the sketchy side...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>      From: clay via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>> Cc: clay 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 7:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread
>> 
>> It is coming out black, but getting lighter with each change.  First change 
>> resulted in near immediate change to diesel black on the stick after ten 
>> miles.  Now it remains amber for far longer.  Since I am only getting 2500 
>> miles per annum, I make sure if she goes out, she goes OUT! for a long drive 
>> at speed.  Hot enough to deal with most condensation.    I doubt I will get 
>> 'clean' at a change, I aim for deep maple instead of french roast, and 
>> slight opacity over occluded.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> On Feb 9, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> On 09/02/2016 4:20 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
 I like M1 15-50 for the older cars and diesels.  I am running it through 
 Frosch for the past three years in an attempt to clear out 40 years of 
 crud in the engine.  Just in case.  Once it flows out clean during the 
 annual change, I figure I will move to Delo synth.
 
 
 
 clay
 
 
>>> Will it ever run out clean on an annual change?
>>> I run M1 in my late model truck and it gets dirty after about 5K miles.
>>> Not horrible but bad enough that I change it about then.
>>> 
>>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

As some other folks have said, in an older car its probably fine. If I had a 
61x engine I'd probably be running conventional oil and a block heater. The 
soot load of the older engines is really the limiting factor for longer oil 
changes.
61x and later engines really ought to have synthetic. Easier cold starts = less 
startup wear, longer oil change durations = same cost to operate. Both my 190Ds 
were well within safe limits at 10,000 mile oil changes and I suspect they 
could have easily gone to 15,000.
Hilariously VW recommends 10,000 mile oil changes in the US but 30,000 miles 
outside of the US. They do that because they recognize that nearly zero US car 
owners will ever read the owners manual...
My VW guy was telling me he was talking to a VW mechanic in Germany who says 
the almost never have cam failures on the BEW engines over there while its a 
common problem here. Internet lore suggests the cam failures here are from the 
dealers putting in the wrong oil...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread
   
That’s why I asked.  I saw some discussions about this in another forum and was 
wondering, since I know there are a number of diesel folks that swear by Delo.  
I thought it was regular dino oil, not synthetic.

confused Dan

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, according to Chevron:
> 
> Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40 is formulated with ISOSYN
> ®
> Technology. ISOSYN Technology is a combination of
> premium base oils and high performance additives with
> Chevron's formulating expertise that "Rivals Synthetic
> Performance" and provides su
> perb diesel engine parts
> protection - all at an ou
> tstanding value.
> 
> Does the bottle say "synthetic" on it?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 


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Re: [MBZ] 124 evap drain

[WILTON via Mercedes]

I used piece of garden hose of appropriate dia., which I don't remember. 
'Course it was very easy with the evap/heater box out.   ;<)


Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 9:58 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 124 evap drain


I need to replace the evap drain tubes on a 87 300D 124.   Anyone BTDT? 
Anyone able to look up the part number?  Thanks!


They appear to be some kind of foam.  I tried 3/4" heater hose.  That 
worked on some older cars.  It fits on the evap drain but won't go through 
the tunnel.


Maybe the original has a formed coupling on the evap end like some heater 
hoses.


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Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Woo, garage Keeped!
"1956 Chrysler impiril sedan"

My neighbor periodically says "I seen" he's a good neighbor so I try 
not to wince...


-Curt


Grageet ov da pubic skool

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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Hold on.  Delo LE 5w-40 IS synthetic.

Max getting confused with the facts again

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That’s why I asked.  I saw some discussions about this in another forum
> and was wondering, since I know there are a number of diesel folks that
> swear by Delo.  I thought it was regular dino oil, not synthetic.
>
> confused Dan
>
> > On Feb 10, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, according to Chevron:
> >
> > Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40 is formulated with ISOSYN
> > ®
> > Technology. ISOSYN Technology is a combination of
> > premium base oils and high performance additives with
> > Chevron's formulating expertise that "Rivals Synthetic
> > Performance" and provides su
> > perb diesel engine parts
> > protection - all at an ou
> > tstanding value.
> >
> > Does the bottle say "synthetic" on it?
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So can someone please clarify for me whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40 is a 
synthetic or not?  I always wondered, and there’s nothing in the name that 
would give it away as such.  Based on the price I see it selling for, I’m 
assuming it’s not, too.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yeahbut the price difference doesn't make sense...
Or didn't until I checked for Delo 400 le 15w-40 at Wally-Mart, $13/gal, so the 
price difference is very large, just remember its not synthetic...I don't 
understand why somebody would spend years cleaning out an engine with synthetic 
oil to turn around and put conventional back in...
-Curt

  From: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
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 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread
   
>Huh? If you watch the sales you should be able to get M1 for between 
>$27 and $30 a gallon. Worst would be buying it in $10 quarts but 
>thats still only $40 a gallon.The cheap stuff has to be almost free 
>to get a difference of $30 per oil change and if its that cheap its 
>got to be crap.
>-Curt

Clay said per oil change, not per gallon.  I buy 2 gallons or 2 5 qt 
jugs per oil change in my MBs.  An OM603 takes roughly 7 qts.  The 
odd tailings get uses somewhere along the line.  Sometimes the 
tailings are enough that I only need to buy 1 jug.


Funny how Bob's simple question got turned into another oil thread!


  
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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Well, according to Chevron:
Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40 is formulated with ISOSYN


The prefix iso- means "equal to".  So, the marketeers
are telling you that it's equal to synthetic.  What more
could you want?

Delo has always been a very good conventional oil.  I use
it in everything, diesel or not, with the exception of
the wife's X5, which _she_ maintains.  Of course, they're
all older cars now, nothing with a snotty oil rating
except the X5.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have never seen one of the optional record players in circa 1950s cars.  
That’s pretty cool.

It’s a bit of a beater, but has a lot of potential.  Definitely looks like 
“Grandpa’s car”.

Dan


> On Feb 10, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Woo, garage Keeped!
> "1956 Chrysler impiril sedan"
> 
> My neighbor periodically says "I seen" he's a good neighbor so I try not to 
> wince...
> 
> -Curt
> 


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Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I didn't properly appreciate how good a public school I went to until I got 
into college and realized I was at least year ahead of my peers. None of my 
liberal arts classes challenged me. The video production classes kicked my ass 
so its good I had high marks from the liberal arts classes to balance things 
out. My production classes also kept me humble.
I skipped English 100 since I'd gotten a perfect score on the TSWE (Test of 
Standard Written English) which apparently very few of my peers had even taken. 
After attending a few classes of English 110 I suggested to the teacher that I 
only show up for tests since I was the only one in the class doing the reading 
and the other students were suffering since I knew basically everything the 
teacher was going to say. We ended up making a deal where I would sit and read 
in my dorm during those class sessions and he just gave me the A. My taking the 
test was putting the curve so badly out that nobody else could pass...
-Curt

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 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there
   
> Grageet ov da pubic skool

Isn't that properly spelled "pubic skull"?
Seems right, anyhow.

-- Jim



   
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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Curly.
004 997 16 48  seal ring qty.002
015 997 94 48 seal ring qty.002


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Curly McLain via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 10 February 2016 05:35
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curly McLain


Does anyone have the part number (or metric size) for the little
orings that go on the center shaft of the  oil filter cap on OM61x
and OM 60x engines?2 per oil filter housing.
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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have prime I will check that out too

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If you do Amazon Prime it may not be that good of a deal from the Mann guys.  
> I have used them a few times for a case of air filters for the M119s I’ve got 
> around here and had an oddball filter I needed like a cabin air filter that 
> was more expensive elsewhere.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I will have to check it out. I have 10 of the same engine usually. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> From these guys:
>>> 
>>> http://www.mannfiltersrus.com
>>> 
>>> They’re not the cheapest, but they sell by the case lot. If you have three 
>>> cars with the same air filters, for example, that can work out pretty well 
>>> as long as you hit their free shipping threshold of $75.
>>> 
>>> I have found the best deals from Mann on Amazon of late.  That’s where I’ve 
>>> been buying smaller quantities.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
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  wrote:
 
 Where do you buy in bulk from Mann?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s even cheaper when a family member works for Amazon…

Dan with a family Amazonian


> On Feb 10, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you're not doing Amazon Prime you're a lunatic. Its $100/year. If you buy 
> 10 things a year it pays for itself easily even if you don't use the music or 
> video services.I use the music a lot, it lets you download to your phone or 
> tablet...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I will have to check it out. I have 10 of the same engine usually. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> From these guys:
> 
> http://www.mannfiltersrus.com
> 
> They’re not the cheapest, but they sell by the case lot. If you have three 
> cars with the same air filters, for example, that can work out pretty well as 
> long as you hit their free shipping threshold of $75.
> 
> I have found the best deals from Mann on Amazon of late.  That’s where I’ve 
> been buying smaller quantities.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Where do you buy in bulk from Mann?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If you do Amazon Prime it may not be that good of a deal from the Mann guys.  I 
have used them a few times for a case of air filters for the M119s I’ve got 
around here and had an oddball filter I needed like a cabin air filter that was 
more expensive elsewhere.

Dan


> On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:00 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I will have to check it out. I have 10 of the same engine usually. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> From these guys:
>> 
>> http://www.mannfiltersrus.com
>> 
>> They’re not the cheapest, but they sell by the case lot. If you have three 
>> cars with the same air filters, for example, that can work out pretty well 
>> as long as you hit their free shipping threshold of $75.
>> 
>> I have found the best deals from Mann on Amazon of late.  That’s where I’ve 
>> been buying smaller quantities.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where do you buy in bulk from Mann?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

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I have to go to the dealer on Friday to pick up the trim pieces for below the 
headlights on the SL500, as I’m going to delete the worthless and ugly 
headlight washers on that car.  While I’m there I’ll ask if he has any and how 
much.  If I can get a handful for cheap I’ll just pass them out as needed.

Dan


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>  wrote:
> 
>> On the OM603 the O-rings are a part number 015 997 94 48, about a buck a 
>> piece retail from MB.  They're the same part for the OM617 engine, too.
>> 
>> Dan
> 
> 
> Thanks Dan and Fred.  I used to buy 6 at a time from Q, but my supply is 
> exhausted, and all the cars need them now.
> 
> I'll just tack them onto my next parts order.
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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40 is a synthetic or not?


Regular old Delo?  It's not.  I miss the $6/gallon days
when I bought 6-gallon cases at Costco.  What with the 3-gallon
truck, and all those 2-gallon MB's...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Where do you buy in bulk from Mann?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 5:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I bought a bundle (6) of Mercedes oil filters from a guy who is a tech at a 
> dealer over on the east coast of Florida.  While I can’t prove it, I’m pretty 
> well convinced that they’re bogus filters.  First of all, they’re Mann 
> filters but stamped as having origin in India.  Mann doesn’t make filters in 
> India that I know of, but Mahle does.  Second, the sticker with the Mercedes 
> part information is printed on the box - it’s not a sticker.  Everything I 
> buy from my dealer has stickers on the boxes.
> 
> I have used a couple of them after closely inspecting them inside and out 
> both before and after use and they seem OK, but I’m still skeptical.
> 
> I buy stuff in bulk from Mann online, so these have been relegated to back up 
> duty in the event that I run out and need one in a pinch.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 2:42 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Just be sure they weren't made in India. I ordered a case of German branded 
>> filters that were made in India. When I tapped them on the bench, small 
>> pieces of something that looked like soft wood came out. I called the seller 
>> who insisted they were okay. I told her to get one out the warehouse and tap 
>> it on the desk like I did. It also had the tiny pieces of wood. She refunded 
>> my money with no complaint after that. I've strictly used Mann ever since.
>> Gerry
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

From these guys:

http://www.mannfiltersrus.com

They’re not the cheapest, but they sell by the case lot. If you have three cars 
with the same air filters, for example, that can work out pretty well as long 
as you hit their free shipping threshold of $75.

I have found the best deals from Mann on Amazon of late.  That’s where I’ve 
been buying smaller quantities.

Dan

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:50 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Where do you buy in bulk from Mann?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It is full synthetic and is $19.99 a gallon at Wally World 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So can someone please clarify for me whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40 is a 
> synthetic or not?  I always wondered, and there’s nothing in the name that 
> would give it away as such.  Based on the price I see it selling for, I’m 
> assuming it’s not, too.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[WILTON via Mercedes]

And Frank on "American Pickers" ALWAYS says, "I seen."  I wince, too.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Curt Raymond" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there



Woo, garage Keeped!
"1956 Chrysler impiril sedan"

My neighbor periodically says "I seen" he's a good neighbor so I try not 
to wince...


-Curt

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To: Mercedes List 
Cc: Dan Penoff 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:17 AM
Subject: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/5436966640.html

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s why I asked.  I saw some discussions about this in another forum and was 
wondering, since I know there are a number of diesel folks that swear by Delo.  
I thought it was regular dino oil, not synthetic.

confused Dan

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, according to Chevron:
> 
> Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40 is formulated with ISOSYN
> ®
> Technology. ISOSYN Technology is a combination of
> premium base oils and high performance additives with
> Chevron's formulating expertise that "Rivals Synthetic
> Performance" and provides su
> perb diesel engine parts
> protection - all at an ou
> tstanding value.
> 
> Does the bottle say "synthetic" on it?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 


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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yeah, their naming is very challenging...
You were right the first time though, we were talking about 15w40.
-Curt

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Cc: Meade Dillon 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:39 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread
   
Hold on.  Delo LE 5w-40 IS synthetic.

Max getting confused with the facts again

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That’s why I asked.  I saw some discussions about this in another forum
> and was wondering, since I know there are a number of diesel folks that
> swear by Delo.  I thought it was regular dino oil, not synthetic.
>
> confused Dan
>
> > On Feb 10, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Well, according to Chevron:
> >
> > Delo 400 LE SAE 15W-40 is formulated with ISOSYN
> > ®
> > Technology. ISOSYN Technology is a combination of
> > premium base oils and high performance additives with
> > Chevron's formulating expertise that "Rivals Synthetic
> > Performance" and provides su
> > perb diesel engine parts
> > protection - all at an ou
> > tstanding value.
> >
> > Does the bottle say "synthetic" on it?
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[OK Don via Mercedes]

My kids went to the worst grade school and middle school in town, the high
schools were equal - and did really well in college - two went to Yale,
another to NYU, two were in the "scholars" program at OU, they have five
masters degrees between the four of them (one doesn't have a masters), etc.
It's the student and their family support, NOT the school.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I didn't properly appreciate how good a public school I went to
>>
>
> Mine was dreadful.  I tested out of English 101 anyway, but tested
> IN to bonehead math, which I could not afford to do.  (It would have
> added a year to my degree.)  I took Calculus anyway, and did OK.
> If you can read, and learn...  Well, that's what's important.
>
>
> -- Jim
>



-- 
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Back to the original question, if one desires to use an MB-approved oil (or
any other fluid/grease/additive), here's the definitive source (MB):

http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/index.php?language_id=1

Rather clunky, you'll need to know exactly which sheet to look in, but the
info is there.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I didn't properly appreciate how good a public school I went to


Mine was dreadful.  I tested out of English 101 anyway, but tested
IN to bonehead math, which I could not afford to do.  (It would have
added a year to my degree.)  I took Calculus anyway, and did OK.
If you can read, and learn...  Well, that's what's important.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] This looks like a deal

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Sure, if you have more $$ than brains

For $9k you'd get:
hard top
six lug nuts
dipstick
_maybe_ a flywheel
Steering wheel.

I'll pass!

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Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] 124 evap drain

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looks like a 140 820 01 96 "Hose, Condensed water drain” - $13.00

The EPC pictures aren’t always accurate, but it is shown as a straight hose.

Get me a VIN and I can be sure.

Dan

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:58 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I need to replace the evap drain tubes on a 87 300D 124.   Anyone BTDT?  
> Anyone able to look up the part number?  Thanks!
> 
> They appear to be some kind of foam.  I tried 3/4" heater hose.  That worked 
> on some older cars.  It fits on the evap drain but won't go through the 
> tunnel.
> 
> Maybe the original has a formed coupling on the evap end like some heater 
> hoses.
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like a deal

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Sorry - didn't scroll down that far.

Add to my list:
Front bumper
Floor mat
Passenger door with hardware, inside and out, but probably bottom edge is
rusted out.
Black dash
Gas cap.

Looks like it would take about 30 minutes to just remove those parts and
then sell them.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> What about the bumper!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 10, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sure, if you have more $$ than brains
> >
> > For $9k you'd get:
> > hard top
> > six lug nuts
> > dipstick
> > _maybe_ a flywheel
> > Steering wheel.
> >
> > I'll pass!
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1965-mercedes-benz-230sl-c-5059.htm
> >>
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[MBZ] This looks like a deal

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

http://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1965-mercedes-benz-230sl-c-5059.htm

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Re: [MBZ] This looks like a deal

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

What about the bumper!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sure, if you have more $$ than brains
> 
> For $9k you'd get:
> hard top
> six lug nuts
> dipstick
> _maybe_ a flywheel
> Steering wheel.
> 
> I'll pass!
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> http://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1965-mercedes-benz-230sl-c-5059.htm
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like a deal

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Exactly.

There was a burned out Porch 356 or 911, I don’t recall which, on BAT a few 
weeks ago.  Even had the certificate of authenticity or whatever they have from 
Porch.  The car was literally a burned out shell.  I don’t know what it sold 
for, but it sold.

Dan


> On Feb 10, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What about the bumper!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like a deal

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

In a word -SHAMELESS..

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sorry - didn't scroll down that far.
>
> Add to my list:
> Front bumper
> Floor mat
> Passenger door with hardware, inside and out, but probably bottom edge is
> rusted out.
> Black dash
> Gas cap.
>
> Looks like it would take about 30 minutes to just remove those parts and
> then sell them.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > What about the bumper!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Feb 10, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sure, if you have more $$ than brains
> > >
> > > For $9k you'd get:
> > > hard top
> > > six lug nuts
> > > dipstick
> > > _maybe_ a flywheel
> > > Steering wheel.
> > >
> > > I'll pass!
> > >
> > > -
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> http://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1965-mercedes-benz-230sl-c-5059.htm
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:56:51 -0600
"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"  wrote:

> It is full synthetic and is $19.99 a gallon at Wally World 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > So can someone please clarify for me whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40 is a 
> > synthetic or not?  I always wondered, and there’s nothing in the name that 
> > would give it away as such.  Based on the price I see it selling for, I’m 
> > assuming it’s not, too.
> > 
> > Dan
~
This website has considerable data on this oil.

http://www.parmanenergy.com/sites/default/files/5W-30_launch_deck.pdf

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Re: [MBZ] This looks like a deal

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I want a lifetime supply of what ever drug the seller is taking...
apparently it makes total pieces of crap appear valuable

This car was wrecked, totaled, abandoned for years to rust, somewhere along
the way anything of instant value was stripped.. now priced beyond any
imaginable value..

Seriously? $9.--

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On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes  wrote:

> What about the bumper!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 10, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sure, if you have more $$ than brains
> >
> > For $9k you'd get:
> > hard top
> > six lug nuts
> > dipstick
> > _maybe_ a flywheel
> > Steering wheel.
> >
> > I'll pass!
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1965-mercedes-benz-230sl-c-5059.htm
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Getting back on point, I WANT THAT CAR.  How cool to have a record player
in a classic 50s sedan that BLOWS ICE COLD.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I didn't properly appreciate how good a public school I went to
>>
>
> Mine was dreadful.  I tested out of English 101 anyway, but tested
> IN to bonehead math, which I could not afford to do.  (It would have
> added a year to my degree.)  I took Calculus anyway, and did OK.
> If you can read, and learn...  Well, that's what's important.
>
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like a deal

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Plus, don't forget the front anti-sway bar - it looked OK. It's amazing
that they bothered to take all those [photos showing how bad the car
remains are!

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sorry - didn't scroll down that far.
>
> Add to my list:
> Front bumper
> Floor mat
> Passenger door with hardware, inside and out, but probably bottom edge is
> rusted out.
> Black dash
> Gas cap.
>
> Looks like it would take about 30 minutes to just remove those parts and
> then sell them.
>
> -
> Max
>



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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thats the 5w30, we were talking about 15w40 which is probably not synthetic. A 
cursory glance around that website doesn't show me any 15w40 info...
-Curt

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 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 12:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread
   
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 08:56:51 -0600
"Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"  wrote:

> It is full synthetic and is $19.99 a gallon at Wally World 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > So can someone please clarify for me whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40 is a 
> > synthetic or not?  I always wondered, and there’s nothing in the name that 
> > would give it away as such.  Based on the price I see it selling for, I’m 
> > assuming it’s not, too.
> > 
> > Dan
~
This website has considerable data on this oil.

http://www.parmanenergy.com/sites/default/files/5W-30_launch_deck.pdf

Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curly wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have the part number (or metric size) for the
> little orings that go on the center shaft of the  oil
> filter cap on OM61x and OM 60x engines?2 per oil filter
> housing.

My parts notes has that as number 015-997-94-48



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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Buy a lifetime supply on Amazon for $11.00:

http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B005RUQPFC/ref=biss_dp_t_asn

Dan



> On Feb 10, 2016, at 1:08 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Curly wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone have the part number (or metric size) for the
>> little orings that go on the center shaft of the  oil
>> filter cap on OM61x and OM 60x engines?2 per oil filter
>> housing.
> 
> My parts notes has that as number 015-997-94-48
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

http://www.deloperformance.com/products/engine-oils.aspxsuggests the answer is 
no, the synthetics all say synthetic...
-Curt

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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 9:27 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread
   
So can someone please clarify for me whether or not Delo 400 LE 15W-40 is a 
synthetic or not?  I always wondered, and there’s nothing in the name that 
would give it away as such.  Based on the price I see it selling for, I’m 
assuming it’s not, too.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Dangit!ThatsthesecondtimeI'vedonethatinasmanyweeks...-Curt

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 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 2:36 PM
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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:25:45 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> http://www.deloperformance.com/products/engine-oils.aspxsuggests the
> answer is no, the synthetics all say synthetic... -Curt

You ran the word suggests into the end of the URL. It should be

http://www.deloperformance.com/products/engine-oils.aspx


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curly wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have the part number (or metric size) for the
> little orings that go on the center shaft of the  oil
> filter cap on OM61x and OM 60x engines?

My parts notes has that as number 015-997-94-48

and the measurements of a ring I have here:

. OD - 10 mm
. ID - 6 mm
.  cross section - 2 mm
.cross section shape - round 

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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:25:45 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> http://www.deloperformance.com/products/engine-oils.aspxsuggests the
> answer is no, the synthetics all say synthetic... -Curt

You ran the word suggests into the end of the URL. It should be

http://www.deloperformance.com/products/engine-oils.aspx


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Wilton - trick question:  Do you "sit" or "set" on a settee?


On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 3:06 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I realized many years ago that my lower, middle (we didn't call 'em that
> then) and high schools weren't so great, either, but in about 6th grade I
> decided that I'd get a good education there, anyway.  I didn't leave it to
> the school; I did it myself for myself.  I wish every child, every
> teenager, could have at least a little bit of the intense desire for an
> education that I had.  If they did, we'd need a lot more schools and a lot
> less jails.
>
> Wilton, who knows the difference between lie, lay, set, sit, etc., and
> doesn't say, "I seen it."   ;<)
>
> - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "Curt Raymond" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there
>
>
> I didn't properly appreciate how good a public school I went to until I
>> got into college and realized I was at least year ahead of my peers. None
>> of my liberal arts classes challenged me. The video production classes
>> kicked my ass so its good I had high marks from the liberal arts classes to
>> balance things out. My production classes also kept me humble.
>> I skipped English 100 since I'd gotten a perfect score on the TSWE (Test
>> of Standard Written English) which apparently very few of my peers had even
>> taken. After attending a few classes of English 110 I suggested to the
>> teacher that I only show up for tests since I was the only one in the class
>> doing the reading and the other students were suffering since I knew
>> basically everything the teacher was going to say. We ended up making a
>> deal where I would sit and read in my dorm during those class sessions and
>> he just gave me the A. My taking the test was putting the curve so badly
>> out that nobody else could pass...
>> -Curt
>>
>>  From: Jim Cathey 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Curt Raymond ; Curly McLain <
>> 126die...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there
>>
>> Grageet ov da pubic skool
>>>
>>
>> Isn't that properly spelled "pubic skull"?
>> Seems right, anyhow.
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
>>
>>
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[MBZ] Broken Spring?

[Craig via Mercedes]

I have been driving our '82 240D/3.0 with the broken left-rear lower
shock mount. I noticed recently some other noises and that the left-rear
wheel is at quite an angle (see picture attached).

Do I have a broken spring?

If I do, how difficult will it be to get a replacement? I recall all
sorts of things about springs with different paint markings, different
shim thicknesses, and so forth, complicating the issue.

Thanks,


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Dan wrote:
> Buy a lifetime supply on Amazon for $11.00:
>
> http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B005RUQPFC/ref=biss_dp_t_asn

China
MilSpec is supposed to be USA, so that is what you will be receiving - dash226.
Espresso Machine... vintage QuickMill
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Foaming glass cleaner

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sorry, I forgot - I get mine at Walmart, but I’m sure you can find it at any 
number of retailers.

Dan




> On Feb 10, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I have heard Dan rhapsodize about foaming glass cleaner, how it doesn't
> have ammonia, how well it cleans, etc.
> 
> Does one get this at a FLAPS, a local grocery store, or Amazon?
> 
> Is one brand better than another?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Foaming glass cleaner

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is the stuff I use, but there are others.  I would just shy away from the 
fancy name brands, like Rain-X, because you’re just paying for the brand name 
and the end results are the same:

http://www.invisibleglass.com/Products/automotive/aerosol

Dan


> On Feb 10, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I have heard Dan rhapsodize about foaming glass cleaner, how it doesn't
> have ammonia, how well it cleans, etc.
> 
> Does one get this at a FLAPS, a local grocery store, or Amazon?
> 
> Is one brand better than another?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Foaming glass cleaner

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I would have to check, but I think a can is between $3-$4.  It lasts a while, I 
usually buy one every couple of months. It would probably be longer, but my 
youngest is obsessively clean when it comes to automotive glass.  I think he 
cleans his windshield like a preflight check every time he drives the car.

Dan


> On Feb 10, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Price??
> 
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> Sorry, I forgot - I get mine at Walmart, but I’m sure you can find it at any 
> number of retailers.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Feb 10, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes  > > wrote:
> >
> > I have heard Dan rhapsodize about foaming glass cleaner, how it doesn't
> > have ammonia, how well it cleans, etc.
> >
> > Does one get this at a FLAPS, a local grocery store, or Amazon?
> >
> > Is one brand better than another?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Foaming glass cleaner

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

So what's wrong with ammonia again?
I've used the foaming stuff and noticed that it leaves a residue. Any reason 
for that?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I forgot - I get mine at Walmart, but I’m sure you can find it at any 
> number of retailers.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have heard Dan rhapsodize about foaming glass cleaner, how it doesn't
>> have ammonia, how well it cleans, etc.
>> 
>> Does one get this at a FLAPS, a local grocery store, or Amazon?
>> 
>> Is one brand better than another?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 19:40:59 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Dangit!ThatsthesecondtimeI'vedonethatinasmanyweeks...-Curt

Well, I forgive you.

I only pointed it out because some might not notice and click on the
original URL, get a 404 error, and complain on-list, as has happened
before.


Craig



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> Cc: Craig 
>  Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 2:36 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread
>
> On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:25:45 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > http://www.deloperformance.com/products/engine-oils.aspxsuggests the
> > answer is no, the synthetics all say synthetic... -Curt
> 
> You ran the word suggests into the end of the URL. It should be
> 
> http://www.deloperformance.com/products/engine-oils.aspx
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oil pressure gauge and do
something about the failed
hood paint and attend to the
headlight switch -- and now I
need to do something about the
broken left rear trailing arm)
 '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV,
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Past:'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
 '86 190E/2.3
 '72 220/8
 '64 190Dc  Emma
 '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi

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Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[WILTON via Mercedes]

I realized many years ago that my lower, middle (we didn't call 'em that 
then) and high schools weren't so great, either, but in about 6th grade I 
decided that I'd get a good education there, anyway.  I didn't leave it to 
the school; I did it myself for myself.  I wish every child, every teenager, 
could have at least a little bit of the intense desire for an education that 
I had.  If they did, we'd need a lot more schools and a lot less jails.


Wilton, who knows the difference between lie, lay, set, sit, etc., and 
doesn't say, "I seen it."   ;<)


- Original Message - 
From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Curt Raymond" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there


I didn't properly appreciate how good a public school I went to until I got 
into college and realized I was at least year ahead of my peers. None of my 
liberal arts classes challenged me. The video production classes kicked my 
ass so its good I had high marks from the liberal arts classes to balance 
things out. My production classes also kept me humble.
I skipped English 100 since I'd gotten a perfect score on the TSWE (Test 
of Standard Written English) which apparently very few of my peers had 
even taken. After attending a few classes of English 110 I suggested to 
the teacher that I only show up for tests since I was the only one in the 
class doing the reading and the other students were suffering since I knew 
basically everything the teacher was going to say. We ended up making a 
deal where I would sit and read in my dorm during those class sessions and 
he just gave me the A. My taking the test was putting the curve so badly 
out that nobody else could pass...

-Curt

 From: Jim Cathey 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Curt Raymond ; Curly McLain 
<126die...@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there


Grageet ov da pubic skool


Isn't that properly spelled "pubic skull"?
Seems right, anyhow.

-- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] Broken Spring?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I suspect that your lower control arm is collapsing.  Recommend a flat-bed
tow to a garage that can replace it for proper diagnoses on a lift.  Used
arms which are rust free are the best value.

"While you are there": If you've got the time and funding to have them drop
the entire rear axle carrier / saddle assembly, they can replace all the
rubber bushings on both rear control arms.  New rubber shims, maybe new
springs and new shocks and good for another 100k miles or more...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I have been driving our '82 240D/3.0 with the broken left-rear lower
> shock mount. I noticed recently some other noises and that the left-rear
> wheel is at quite an angle (see picture attached).
>
> Do I have a broken spring?
>
> If I do, how difficult will it be to get a replacement? I recall all
> sorts of things about springs with different paint markings, different
> shim thicknesses, and so forth, complicating the issue.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 124 evap drain

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Straight and only 3 or 4 inches long on my 87 300D is what I remember.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
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Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evap drain



Looks like a 140 820 01 96 "Hose, Condensed water drain” - $13.00

The EPC pictures aren’t always accurate, but it is shown as a straight 
hose.


Get me a VIN and I can be sure.

Dan

On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:58 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:


I need to replace the evap drain tubes on a 87 300D 124.   Anyone BTDT? 
Anyone able to look up the part number?  Thanks!


They appear to be some kind of foam.  I tried 3/4" heater hose.  That 
worked on some older cars.  It fits on the evap drain but won't go 
through the tunnel.


Maybe the original has a formed coupling on the evap end like some heater 
hoses.


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[MBZ] Foaming glass cleaner

[Craig via Mercedes]

I have heard Dan rhapsodize about foaming glass cleaner, how it doesn't
have ammonia, how well it cleans, etc.

Does one get this at a FLAPS, a local grocery store, or Amazon?

Is one brand better than another?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Foaming glass cleaner

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Price??

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sorry, I forgot - I get mine at Walmart, but I’m sure you can find it at
> any number of retailers.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 10, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I have heard Dan rhapsodize about foaming glass cleaner, how it doesn't
> > have ammonia, how well it cleans, etc.
> >
> > Does one get this at a FLAPS, a local grocery store, or Amazon?
> >
> > Is one brand better than another?
> >
> > Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] Foaming glass cleaner

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I've found that nearly all the cleaning products at the Dollar Tree are
borderline awesome.  SWMBO loves Kaboom! and I am fond of their Spic and
Span spray cleaner. The microfiber cloths are also an amazing value.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> I would have to check, but I think a can is between $3-$4.  It lasts a
> while, I usually buy one every couple of months. It would probably be
> longer, but my youngest is obsessively clean when it comes to automotive
> glass.  I think he cleans his windshield like a preflight check every time
> he drives the car.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Feb 10, 2016, at 4:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Price??
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Sorry, I forgot - I get mine at Walmart, but I’m sure you can find it at
> any number of retailers.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 10, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes  > wrote:
> > >
> > > I have heard Dan rhapsodize about foaming glass cleaner, how it doesn't
> > > have ammonia, how well it cleans, etc.
> > >
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> > >
> > > Is one brand better than another?
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[MBZ] Fwd: test A54eGceo3M

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I am getting bounced again

--R


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Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 10/02/2016 2:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Wilton - trick question:  Do you "sit" or "set" on a settee?





Settees are fancy things. You just stand there with your cup of tea and 
stare at the Settee.

You don't sit or set on it.
If you wish to sit or "set a spell", then you go and look for a couch.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Foaming glass cleaner

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Apparently it eats tint. Fortunately I have nothing tinted nor do I care to. If 
it doesn't have ammonia I don't want it on my windows. Actually I want ammonia 
because I can get it back OFF my windows, like you I've found that everything 
else leaves a coating that schmoo loves to stick to.
-Curt

  From: Dimitri via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dimitri 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 4:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Foaming glass cleaner
   
So what's wrong with ammonia again?
I've used the foaming stuff and noticed that it leaves a residue. Any reason 
for that?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I forgot - I get mine at Walmart, but I’m sure you can find it at any 
> number of retailers.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have heard Dan rhapsodize about foaming glass cleaner, how it doesn't
>> have ammonia, how well it cleans, etc.
>> 
>> Does one get this at a FLAPS, a local grocery store, or Amazon?
>> 
>> Is one brand better than another?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like a deal

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

http://www.beverlyhillscarclub.com/1965-mercedes-benz-230sl-c-5059.htm
Why the angst?
It's in La La Land!
Fred



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Sent: 10 February 2016 17:22
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Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This looks like a deal

In a word -SHAMELESS..

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sorry - didn't scroll down that far.

 Max

> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:23:11 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Don't your BBC guys who did your top computer do the CC relay too?

And then there's the guy out in Morro Bay, CA.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] now this is nice

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Here's another one for ya. 

‎http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/ctd/5429940760.html

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] now this is nice

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Damn!  I hope they have a couple of high mileage awards from MBUSA!

Dan


> On Feb 10, 2016, at 10:53 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
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> 
> Here's another one for ya. 
> 
> ‎http://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/ctd/5429940760.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Foaming glass cleaner

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Dimitri wrote:
> 
> So what's wrong with ammonia again?

On glass - nothing.  

But the ammonia will melt/etch the surface of many plastics.
So be careful not to get it on the vinyl dash.  Or seats.
And _don't_ use it on the instrument cluster "glass"!  Or on
window tint film.

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Re: [MBZ] Okie Party Bus

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I own one, same as in the picture, built in late 88, about 10 serial
numbers before Cummins engines started being used in USA market coaches,
It should be an inline 6 Cummins in that coach.. not a V8.

If its a V8 engine, it's most likely Detroit Diesel 8V92 [which is what
mine has]
8= Number of cylinders, V= Configuration, 92= Cubic inches displacement per
cylinder.. 450 Horse Power.

The inline 6 cylinder Cummins engine option was offered in 1989 because
Cummins engine met the more harsh EPA rules that became effective in 89.
Detroit V 8 did not.

Mine went from a 52 seat coach to a 2 passenger luxury apartment on wheels,
so I guess you could call it a "party bus" .. ;))

Same coach used all over europe with Mercedes engine and trans.. to make
import rules.. they were assembled and sold in USA with "Made in USA"
engines and transmissions [Allison 742, for anyone interested] same
transmission used in trash trucks... very bullet proof.

Engine oil change = 9 gallons of oil, 3 filters
Transmission oil change = 38 gts of oil, 2 filters
Fuel tanks = Two tanks .. 248 gallons #2 diesel on board...
3 axles, 8 tires @ $600.00 each = $4800.00 plus mount and balance.
Total operation cost per mile.. = If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

But then,,, it has a star on the front.. so no one asks.. they just
presume.. ;))


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wrote:

> So, what's with the Cummins in a Mercedes bus ?
>
> "1989 Mercedes Benz coach / touring bus has a v8 cummins "
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> > Here you go, Kaleb!  And you don’t even need to trailer it home!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 124 evap drain

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Curly McLain via Mercedes  wrote:

 I need to replace the evap drain tubes on a 87 300D 124.   Anyone
 BTDT?  Anyone able to look up the part number?  Thanks!
 They appear to be some kind of foam.  I tried 3/4" heater hose.  That
 worked on some older cars.  It fits on the evap drain but won't go
 through the tunnel.
 Maybe the original has a formed coupling on the evap end like some
 heater hoses.


I used foam pipe insulation tubing on the '83 300D; the smallest 
size at Home Depot IIRC. It is split so glue it together with water 
based cement.

It's been installed for about 75K miles with no leak.
Foamed pipe insulation is convenient for insulating A/C lines and 
replacement ducting as well. It's durable and long lasting.

Gerry


There's a thought!

The stealer wants $13.50 each and has none in stock.  I could not 
find a bike shoppe to scrounge a used tube from, so I was gonna try 
the stealer.  After pricing those, the obvious occurred to me:  I can 
go to el mercado de gato merde wall, and BUY a new tube for probably 
$4.  That way I don't have to chase down a bike shoppe.


Tomorrow plan B is executed.  BUY a bike tube and cut it up.

Plan C was to grind out the tunnel holes so the heater hose will fit. 
Plan B is easier.


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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

A Hundred (100) here for $9.65 delivered.  4¢ ea 
plus shipping.  Sure beats $1.20 each from the 
stealer.

http://www.theoringstore.com/index.php?main_page=index=368_12_11=2a

Buna N-70 durometer.   2 mm corss section, 6 mm ID, 10mm OD

I'll have enough to share.  Thanks guys for the 
PN and the size.  The size lets me get em for 4¢.





Buy a lifetime supply on Amazon for $11.00:

http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B005RUQPFC/ref=biss_dp_t_asn

Dan



 On Feb 10, 2016, at 1:08 PM, fmiser via 
Mercedes  wrote:



 Curly wrote:

 Does anyone have the part number (or metric size) for the
 little orings that go on the center shaft of the  oil
 filter cap on OM61x and OM 60x engines?2 per oil filter
 housing.


 My parts notes has that as number 015-997-94-48



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Re: [MBZ] The epitome of MB quality, comfort, and engineering

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Roger,

I can’t be 100% neutral on this because I’ve never owned a W116.  I’ve sat in 
and driven some nice ones, but never enough to really be able to form an 
impression.  I think a couple of my concerns were the dreaded servo ACC system 
and the number of them that I have seen nearly fully consumed by the tin worm.  
That’s not to say the W126 models didn’t rust - they do, in all the same places 
that others like the W123 models do, too.

I seriously considered a 1979 350SE(?) that was a beautiful car, but I couldn’t 
reach a point of agreement with the seller.  And - it was green!  It was a 
great ride and drove very well for its age.

Dan



> On Feb 9, 2016, at 11:52 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan, 
> I understand your liking the 126. I almost got one about 20 years ago when I 
> got my 123, but I wanted something a little smaller for around Atlanta 
> traffic. About 6 months earlier I had acquired the 116 for my wife as all of 
> its metal made me feel better about her safety. The only things that have 
> ever been negatives to me about the 126 was first, all the plastic sides and 
> bumpers, and second the seats which just don't match a 116 or seem to last as 
> long...I've seen lots of seam ripping, etc. If I can find some rear half 
> axles, I'll probably keep my 116 awhile longer, but parts are getting more 
> scarce...at least reasonably priced parts. I'll probably sell my 1983 300D 
> this yeartoo many vehicles for just the wife and I. It's only a baby with 
> 360,000 miles. 
> Best Wishes, 
> Roger 
> Roger Hale 
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
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> 770-267-0850 
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Re: [MBZ] Not an Oil Thread - Mann vs. Mahle

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I bought a bundle (6) of Mercedes oil filters from a guy who is a tech at a 
dealer over on the east coast of Florida.  While I can’t prove it, I’m pretty 
well convinced that they’re bogus filters.  First of all, they’re Mann filters 
but stamped as having origin in India.  Mann doesn’t make filters in India that 
I know of, but Mahle does.  Second, the sticker with the Mercedes part 
information is printed on the box - it’s not a sticker.  Everything I buy from 
my dealer has stickers on the boxes.

I have used a couple of them after closely inspecting them inside and out both 
before and after use and they seem OK, but I’m still skeptical.

I buy stuff in bulk from Mann online, so these have been relegated to back up 
duty in the event that I run out and need one in a pinch.

Dan

 
> On Feb 10, 2016, at 2:42 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just be sure they weren't made in India. I ordered a case of German branded 
> filters that were made in India. When I tapped them on the bench, small 
> pieces of something that looked like soft wood came out. I called the seller 
> who insisted they were okay. I told her to get one out the warehouse and tap 
> it on the desk like I did. It also had the tiny pieces of wood. She refunded 
> my money with no complaint after that. I've strictly used Mann ever since.
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Fun W/Craigslist

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Coupla months ago a father/son went to buy a car with cash, 'sellers' pulled a
gun and tried to rob them, son pulled his gun and started shooting. Can probably
find it in a Battle Creek news search. 
Mitch

> On February 9, 2016 at 3:53 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Coupla years ago here in the area a young kid, 19 or 20, was selling his 
> pickup, met the guy, which turned out to be 2 guys, they wanted to go 
> for a ride in it to check it out, OK, he went with them.  The 2 buyers 
> killed him and took the truck.  They were caught the next day or two, 
> had no particular reason for killing him, no particular remorse, didn't 
> have much concern about it.

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[MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/cto/5436966640.html

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] This looks like a deal

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I used to drool over them, does that count?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well Dimitri  knows,pagodas. Do any of the,rest of you have one or go to
> pagoda shows?
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] Okie Party Bus

[OK Don via Mercedes]

So, what's with the Cummins in a Mercedes bus ?

"1989 Mercedes Benz coach / touring bus has a v8 cummins "

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 5:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Here you go, Kaleb!  And you don’t even need to trailer it home!
>
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/5442607231.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I can go down to the “magic drawers” at my Ace Hardware and buy a set of blower 
motor brushes and resell them for $15 a set if you like.  Of course, I would 
have to have some sort of highly vaulted title within the organization to 
capitalize on this as well.  That would give me credibility that I would 
otherwise not possess.



Dan


> On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:26 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Well, that's why I put all of the question marks in.  'Thought there was 
> something.  Thanks for the answers.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> 
> To: "Mercedes List" 
> Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source
> 
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Re: [MBZ] now this is nice

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Wiring harness is a couple hundred bucks and 30 minutes to replace. Evap is 
solved with your stop leak stuff. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 8:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wiring harness.  Evaporator. Rust on the undercarriage.
> 
> Nice looking car.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Huh?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] now this is nice

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And rust is fixed with?

I hate to say it, but knowing what I do about W140 chassis cars, I would never 
willingly buy one older than 1996 again.  The pre-facelift models just have too 
many issues and don’t have all the bugs worked out like the post facelift 
models do.

Dan

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wiring harness is a couple hundred bucks and 30 minutes to replace. Evap is 
> solved with your stop leak stuff. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 124 evap drain

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Curly McLain via Mercedes  wrote:
> I need to replace the evap drain tubes on a 87 300D 124.   Anyone 
> BTDT?  Anyone able to look up the part number?  Thanks!
> They appear to be some kind of foam.  I tried 3/4" heater hose.  That 
> worked on some older cars.  It fits on the evap drain but won't go 
> through the tunnel.
> Maybe the original has a formed coupling on the evap end like some 
> heater hoses.

I used foam pipe insulation tubing on the '83 300D; the smallest size at Home 
Depot IIRC. It is split so glue it together with water based cement.
It's been installed for about 75K miles with no leak. 
Foamed pipe insulation is convenient for insulating A/C lines and replacement 
ducting as well. It's durable and long lasting.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] For all you lovers of vinyl out there

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I realized many years ago that my lower, middle (we didn't call 'em 
that then) and high schools weren't so great, either, but in about 
6th grade I decided that I'd get a good education there, anyway.  I 
didn't leave it to the school; I did it myself for myself.  I wish 
every child, every teenager, could have at least a little bit of the 
intense desire for an education that I had.  If they did, we'd need 
a lot more schools and a lot less jails.


Wilton, who knows the difference between lie, lay, set, sit, etc., 
and doesn't say, "I seen it."   ;<)



"I seen it"   "chimbly" and much of the "eubonics" are a legacy of 
the the irish immigrants, who never really tried too hard to learn 
the king's english back on the auld sod, nor sought to improve their 
skills here.


Many of these folks became overseeers in the South, and thus formed 
the basis for eubonics.


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Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Talking to a W126 owner and they were complaining about their cruise 
not working.  It's been years since I dealt with this stuff - who 
does cruise amps these days? Wasn't Beckmann one of the places?


Dan


My rusty old heap has a good one.  On the 1500 mile trip, i gingerly 
tried the cruise control when my foot tired out the second day, 
expecting the usual funkyness.  No such thing.  It worked like a new 
one!


Don't your BBC guys who did your top computer do the CC relay too?

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Re: [MBZ] Foaming glass cleaner

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Dimitri sez:  So what's wrong with ammonia again?
I've used the foaming stuff and noticed that it leaves a residue. 
Any reason for that?


Sent from my iPhone


We always used ammonia in water to clean glass because it does not 
streak, and is very cheap.


Plexiglas IS another matter, and Martha sez to NEVER use ammonia 
water if you have stick on tint, 'cause it is prastic too, and 
ammonia will either wrinkle it or take it off.


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Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Hell with him

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 6:00 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And the guy in TN?  Wha's'is name?  Murphy?  George?
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> 
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> Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 6:53 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source
> 
> 
>> Talking to a W126 owner and they were complaining about their cruise not 
>> working.  It’s been years since I dealt with this stuff - who does cruise 
>> amps these days? Wasn’t Beckmann one of the places?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Also progarama

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Talking to a W126 owner and they were complaining about their cruise not 
> working.  It’s been years since I dealt with this stuff - who does cruise 
> amps these days? Wasn’t Beckmann one of the places?
> 
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[MBZ] Cruise Amp Source

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Talking to a W126 owner and they were complaining about their cruise not 
working.  It’s been years since I dealt with this stuff - who does cruise amps 
these days? Wasn’t Beckmann one of the places?

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] This looks like a deal

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well Dimitri  knows,pagodas. Do any of the,rest of you have one or go to
pagoda shows?

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI
On Feb 10, 2016 11:12 AM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" 
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[MBZ] Okie Party Bus

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Here you go, Kaleb!  And you don’t even need to trailer it home!

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/5442607231.html

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source

[WILTON via Mercedes]

And the guy in TN?  Wha's'is name?  Murphy?  George?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 6:53 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source


Talking to a W126 owner and they were complaining about their cruise not 
working.  It’s been years since I dealt with this stuff - who does cruise 
amps these days? Wasn’t Beckmann one of the places?


Dan
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Re: [MBZ] One Simple Question...It's not an Oil Thread

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> On February 9, 2016 at 10:05 PM clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> It gets really expensive to run the M1 for such low miles.

It depends. 
Twice a year I buy two jugs for about $25-27 each, and get a $10-12 rebate on
each one. 
That's not much money for 5 gallons a year. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

George doesn’t repair them himself, I believe, he brokers them from others and 
just marks up the price.

He’s MBCA old guard who used their positions to benefit from the club members.  
I would never refer anyone to him unless it was an enemy.

Dan banned from the MBCA

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 7:00 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
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> 
> And the guy in TN?  Wha's'is name?  Murphy?  George?
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> 
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 6:53 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Cruise Amp Source
> 
> 
>> Talking to a W126 owner and they were complaining about their cruise not 
>> working.  It’s been years since I dealt with this stuff - who does cruise 
>> amps these days? Wasn’t Beckmann one of the places?
>> 
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