date:20160719


Beans Beans the musical fruit?

--JC


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I am attending a musical tonight 42nd street. I am now realizing I should not 
have ate lunch at the Mexican place today. I could explode.

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Re: [MBZ] Cool

It just takes more water - even a J-3 cub with 65HP can take the water with
floats - if there's enough water. Rate of climb is also less, but adequate.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Under powered as in - can't get off the water?
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > There was a fellow with a cottage out at the lake who had one back in the
> > 60's and 70's. He was a retired chaplain for US military - don't recall
> > which branch.
> > If I recall correctly the plane was somewhat underpowered but he had put
> a
> > variable pitch prop on it which helped.
> >
> > RB
> >
> >
> > On 19/07/2016 3:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> I always wanted to get a ride in one of those - never did. There were
> >> always several at the small field we stopped at in MN back in the day -
> >> usually at least one being repaired due to landing on glass smooth
> water -
> >> splitting the hull open.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> How about a Seabee?
> >>>
> >>>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_RC-3_Seabee
> >>>
> >>> RB
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> OK Don
> >>
> >> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
> of
> >> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >>
> >> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> >> who
> >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> >> for themselves."
> >>
> >> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> >> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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Re: [MBZ] OT First Oil Change, 2014 VW Beetle TDI

2016-07-19 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes

Curt,
The car had a sticker from some quick lube place. I would bet that the oil 
wasn't synthetic or anything close to the 507.00 spec. The "CHANGE OIL NOW" 
message came on 200 miles into the trip home to Oregon. Beetle juice will be 
getting top notch care from now on.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2014 Beetle TDI Convertible 15Kmi, Beetle Juice

Sent from my cell   

> On Jul 19, 2016, at 7:38 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I hadta Google it to see for myself. Looks like your engine is cross-flow 
> where the older TDI engines (at least from the '05 PD back) have intake and 
> exhaust on the same side.
> Sidebar: At first I was thinking that cross-flow is kind of weird since you'd 
> have to pipe from the turbo to the intake but if you're already piping to the 
> front of the engine for an inter-cooler it kind of makes sense.
> The oil filter on your car is just slightly more obscure than on my '05 Golf 
> TDI and thats only because of the intake on your car. My '98 Jetta has a can 
> oil filter thats a bear, its nearly horizontal pointed at the front of the 
> car just almost touching the fan shroud. Its got not more than 1/8" of 
> clearance when removed, glad I don't have to do it often.
> It'd be interesting to know what oil your car had in it previous, VW 
> dealerships are notorious for not following VW standards. I'd think in 15k 
> miles there wouldn't really have been time for anything seriously bad to 
> happen...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: Kevin Kraly 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:25 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] OT First Oil Change, 2014 VW Beetle TDI
> 
> Hello listers.  Today, I finally had the time and equipment to change the oil 
> in my Beetle TDI 15Kmi.  I set up my topsider, took out the dipstick, and 
> pumped it up.  It worked flawlessly!  To get to the oil filter, I had to 
> remove the decorative engine cover which is held in place by a ball and 
> socket mount in each corner, I was greeted by an engine covered with wires 
> and hoses going every which way.  So where’s the dang oil filter???After 
> a few minutes of feeling around and a few more minutes on Google, I found an 
> informative post describing the exact location and the 32mm socket needed for 
> removal.  Luckily, Dad gave me all his tools once he could no longer work on 
> cars, so I found the ratchet, socket, and the appropriate extension.  It had 
> to be long enough for the ratchet to clear the cooling line just above the 
> filter housing.  It broke loose easily, but I had to finish the last few 
> turns by hand since I needed clearance to remove the socket.  I had to be 
> careful when removing the filter from the spring-loaded mechanism that holds 
> it onto the inside of the cap since the plastic teeth can break off.  This 
> went off without a hitch.  I then lubricated and inserted the provided filter 
> cap o-ring and mounted the new filter.  The installation of the filter also 
> went well.  The kit I bought came with a 5.0l jug of Ravenol 5w/30 full 
> synthetic motor oil that meets the VW 507.00 specification.  I put in the 
> 4.3l (4.54qt of oil and fired it up.  The engine sounded quieter and 
> smoother.  I’m sure that the next one will take haf the time if I don’t 
> forget by the time I reach the 10Kmi interval.
> 
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] OT First Oil Change, 2014 VW Beetle TDI

2016-07-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

I hadta Google it to see for myself. Looks like your engine is cross-flow where 
the older TDI engines (at least from the '05 PD back) have intake and exhaust 
on the same side.
Sidebar: At first I was thinking that cross-flow is kind of weird since you'd 
have to pipe from the turbo to the intake but if you're already piping to the 
front of the engine for an inter-cooler it kind of makes sense.
The oil filter on your car is just slightly more obscure than on my '05 Golf 
TDI and thats only because of the intake on your car. My '98 Jetta has a can 
oil filter thats a bear, its nearly horizontal pointed at the front of the car 
just almost touching the fan shroud. Its got not more than 1/8" of clearance 
when removed, glad I don't have to do it often.
It'd be interesting to know what oil your car had in it previous, VW 
dealerships are notorious for not following VW standards. I'd think in 15k 
miles there wouldn't really have been time for anything seriously bad to 
happen...
-Curt

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Cc: Kevin Kraly 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:25 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT First Oil Change, 2014 VW Beetle TDI
   
Hello listers.  Today, I finally had the time and equipment to change the oil 
in my Beetle TDI 15Kmi.  I set up my topsider, took out the dipstick, and 
pumped it up.  It worked flawlessly!  To get to the oil filter, I had to remove 
the decorative engine cover which is held in place by a ball and socket mount 
in each corner, I was greeted by an engine covered with wires and hoses going 
every which way.  So where’s the dang oil filter???    After a few minutes of 
feeling around and a few more minutes on Google, I found an informative post 
describing the exact location and the 32mm socket needed for removal.  Luckily, 
Dad gave me all his tools once he could no longer work on cars, so I found the 
ratchet, socket, and the appropriate extension.  It had to be long enough for 
the ratchet to clear the cooling line just above the filter housing.  It broke 
loose easily, but I had to finish the last few turns by hand since I needed 
clearance to remove the socket.  I had to be careful when removing the filter 
from the spring-loaded mechanism that holds it onto the inside of the cap since 
the plastic teeth can break off.  This went off without a hitch.  I then 
lubricated and inserted the provided filter cap o-ring and mounted the new 
filter.  The installation of the filter also went well.  The kit I bought came 
with a 5.0l jug of Ravenol 5w/30 full synthetic motor oil that meets the VW 
507.00 specification.  I put in the 4.3l (4.54qt of oil and fired it up.  The 
engine sounded quieter and smoother.  I’m sure that the next one will take haf 
the time if I don’t forget by the time I reach the 10Kmi interval.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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[MBZ] OT First Oil Change, 2014 VW Beetle TDI

2016-07-19 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes

Hello listers.  Today, I finally had the time and equipment to change the oil 
in my Beetle TDI 15Kmi.  I set up my topsider, took out the dipstick, and 
pumped it up.  It worked flawlessly!  To get to the oil filter, I had to remove 
the decorative engine cover which is held in place by a ball and socket mount 
in each corner, I was greeted by an engine covered with wires and hoses going 
every which way.  So where’s the dang oil filter???After a few minutes of 
feeling around and a few more minutes on Google, I found an informative post 
describing the exact location and the 32mm socket needed for removal.  Luckily, 
Dad gave me all his tools once he could no longer work on cars, so I found the 
ratchet, socket, and the appropriate extension.  It had to be long enough for 
the ratchet to clear the cooling line just above the filter housing.  It broke 
loose easily, but I had to finish the last few turns by hand since I needed 
clearance to remove the socket.  I had to be careful when removing the filter 
from the spring-loaded mechanism that holds it onto the inside of the cap since 
the plastic teeth can break off.  This went off without a hitch.  I then 
lubricated and inserted the provided filter cap o-ring and mounted the new 
filter.  The installation of the filter also went well.  The kit I bought came 
with a 5.0l jug of Ravenol 5w/30 full synthetic motor oil that meets the VW 
507.00 specification.  I put in the 4.3l (4.54qt of oil and fired it up.  The 
engine sounded quieter and smoother.  I’m sure that the next one will take haf 
the time if I don’t forget by the time I reach the 10Kmi interval.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2014 VW Beetle TDI Convertible, 15Kmi, Beetlejuice 
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Re: [MBZ] Going to a musical

Just remember, "You're going out there all bloated, but you've got to come back 
a star!”

Hee.


> On Jul 19, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> I am attending a musical tonight 42nd street. I am now realizing I should not 
> have ate lunch at the Mexican place today. I could explode. 
> 
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[MBZ] Going to a musical

I am attending a musical tonight 42nd street. I am now realizing I should not 
have ate lunch at the Mexican place today. I could explode. 

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want a military style Seiko 5 for $50?

2016-07-19 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

My master (pocket) watch issued to me in 1960 was stolen from my desk by 
burglar several years ago, and issued wrist watch has  been "gone" for many 
years - 'don't remember the makers.  Stop watch issued at same time is by 
Heuer.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Frederick via Mercedes" 

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Cc: "Peter Frederick" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anybody want a military style Seiko 5 for $50?


I believe military issue in the mid sixties was Hamilton, but if not 
probably a Bulova, both top manufactures in the US.


I suspect also autowind models rather than electronic or electric due  to 
sealing issues and humidity in Viet Nam, although that would  account for 
failures in the jungle.  Batteries aren't a field  replacement option on 
watches.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want a military style Seiko 5 for $50?

2016-07-19 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

I believe military issue in the mid sixties was Hamilton, but if not  
probably a Bulova, both top manufactures in the US.


I suspect also autowind models rather than electronic or electric due  
to sealing issues and humidity in Viet Nam, although that would  
account for failures in the jungle.  Batteries aren't a field  
replacement option on watches.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Cool

Under powered as in - can't get off the water?

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There was a fellow with a cottage out at the lake who had one back in the
> 60's and 70's. He was a retired chaplain for US military - don't recall
> which branch.
> If I recall correctly the plane was somewhat underpowered but he had put a
> variable pitch prop on it which helped.
>
> RB
>
>
> On 19/07/2016 3:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I always wanted to get a ride in one of those - never did. There were
>> always several at the small field we stopped at in MN back in the day -
>> usually at least one being repaired due to landing on glass smooth water -
>> splitting the hull open.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> How about a Seabee?
>>>
>>>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_RC-3_Seabee
>>>
>>> RB
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> OK Don
>>
>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>> who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>>
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Cool

2016-07-19 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

There was a fellow with a cottage out at the lake who had one back in 
the 60's and 70's. He was a retired chaplain for US military - don't 
recall which branch.
If I recall correctly the plane was somewhat underpowered but he had put 
a variable pitch prop on it which helped.


RB

On 19/07/2016 3:59 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

I always wanted to get a ride in one of those - never did. There were
always several at the small field we stopped at in MN back in the day -
usually at least one being repaired due to landing on glass smooth water -
splitting the hull open.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


How about a Seabee?

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_RC-3_Seabee

RB

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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Cool

I always wanted to get a ride in one of those - never did. There were
always several at the small field we stopped at in MN back in the day -
usually at least one being repaired due to landing on glass smooth water -
splitting the hull open.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> How about a Seabee?
>
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_RC-3_Seabee
>
> RB
>
> --
>

OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Cool

2016-07-19 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


How about a Seabee?

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_RC-3_Seabee

RB

On 19/07/2016 1:54 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Or even a Widgeon.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Personally, I've always wanted a Goose.

Edd

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Re: [MBZ] Question from Glenn Brown

It's never a priority unless they need something 

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> On Jul 19, 2016, at 3:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I know, but I’m just trying to be helpful.  I didn’t ask, and I’m not 
> the Help Desk for people’s tech problems. I can only assume it’s not a 
> priority or he would have found his way back.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Jul 19, 2016, at 3:54 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> No shots fired, just a curiousity.  He could get a new addy like 
>> buggeredbenzmailtoo
>> 
>> --JC
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/19/16 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I think he had issues with his ISP and the Okieserver.
>>> 
>>> I don’t know, I only did this as a favor to him.  Don’t shoot the 
>>> messenger, folks.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jul 19, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Can't he post to the list or did he excuse himself?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Question from Glenn Brown

IIRC he annoyed the hell out of me.

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> wrote:
> 
> I think he had issues with his ISP and the Okieserver.
> 
> I don’t know, I only did this as a favor to him.  Don’t shoot the messenger, 
> folks.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Jul 19, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Can't he post to the list or did he excuse himself?
>> 
>> --JC
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Re: [MBZ] Question from Glenn Brown

Yeah, I know, but I’m just trying to be helpful.  I didn’t ask, and I’m not the 
Help Desk for people’s tech problems. I can only assume it’s not a priority or 
he would have found his way back.

Dan


> On Jul 19, 2016, at 3:54 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
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>> 
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>> folks.
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>> Dan
>> 
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>>> On Jul 19, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
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>>> Can't he post to the list or did he excuse himself?
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Re: [MBZ] Question from Glenn Brown

No shots fired, just a curiousity.  He could get a new addy like 
buggeredbenzmailtoo


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On 7/19/16 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I think he had issues with his ISP and the Okieserver.

I don’t know, I only did this as a favor to him.  Don’t shoot the messenger, 
folks.

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Can't he post to the list or did he excuse himself?

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Re: [MBZ] Question from Glenn Brown

I think he had issues with his ISP and the Okieserver.

I don’t know, I only did this as a favor to him.  Don’t shoot the messenger, 
folks.

Dan


> On Jul 19, 2016, at 3:48 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes  
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> Can't he post to the list or did he excuse himself?
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Re: [MBZ] Question from Glenn Brown


Can't he post to the list or did he excuse himself?

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Glenn Brown, what a tool.

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Re: [MBZ] Question from Glenn Brown

Hand or power?  Metric or SAE?

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Glenn Brown, what a tool.

Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] Question from Glenn Brown

Glenn sent this to me asking if anyone could offer advice.  Please email him 
directly at: g_010...@hotmail.com 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Future Hard Disk

2016-07-19 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

Theoretically DNA wouldn't store as much data since more atoms would be 
involved, although a working, saleable hard disc based on DNA would be a more 
likely possibility using current technology. Has such a disc using DNA been 
built?
Gerry

> I thought DNA was the Next Big Thing in data storage.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> On 7/19/16 4:57 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> > World's smallest hard disk stores data atom by atom
> >
> > DELFT, Netherlands, July 18 (UPI) -- Researchers in the Netherlands have 
> > unveiled the world's smallest hard disk.
> >
> > The disk uses chlorine atoms to represent each bit of information, the most 
> > efficient data storage method yet devised. The hard disk stores 1 kilobyte 
> > of data, or 8,000 bits, and features a storage density of 500 Terabits per 
> > square inch -- 500 times better than the most efficient hard desk on the 
> > market.
> >
> > "In theory, this storage density would allow all books ever created by 
> > humans to be written on a single post stamp," lead researcher Sander Otte, 
> > a scientist with the Kavli Institute of Nanoscience at Delft University, 
> > said in a news release.
> >
> > Researchers used a scanning tunneling microscope to manipulate atoms to 
> > represent binary code, the language used to encode data in computers.
> >
> > "Every bit consists of two positions on a surface of copper atoms, and one 
> > chlorine atom that we can slide back and forth between these two 
> > positions," Otte explained. "If the chlorine atom is in the top position, 
> > there is a hole beneath it -- we call this a 1. If the hole is in the top 
> > position and the chlorine atom is therefore on the bottom, then the bit is 
> > a 0."
> >
> > Using the scanning tunneling microscope, scientists can drag holes around 
> > on a copper surface to encode all kinds of information. Researchers liken 
> > the hard disk to a sliding puzzle, where each piece is either an atom or a 
> > hole.
> >
> > Because each chlorine in atom is surrounded by other chlorine atoms, they 
> > remain stable and stationary. Previous attempts to encode data on the 
> > atomic scale have relied on loose, unanchored atoms.
> >
> > The data on the hard disk is organized into blocks of 8 bytes, or 64 bits. 
> > Each block has a marker made of holes that works like a bar code, revealing 
> > the location of of the block on the copper layer.
> >
> > The new method promises major improvements in terms of stability and 
> > scalability, but the technology requires significant improvement before it 
> > can be used in a working datacenter.
> >
> >
> > "In its current form the memory can operate only in very clean vacuum 
> > conditions and at liquid nitrogen temperature, 77 Kelvins, so the actual 
> > storage of data on an atomic scale is still some way off," Otte said. "But 
> > through this achievement we have certainly come a big step closer."
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Re: [MBZ] Cool

Or even a Widgeon.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:49 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
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> Personally, I've always wanted a Goose.
>
> Edd
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Re: [MBZ] Cool

There have got to be a lot of younger gearheads around to have restored this 
plane, considering that it’s taken over 16 years to do it.

Also remember that it’s in Wichita, a very airplane-centric place for a lot of 
reasons…

I think this is great.  My Dad, who was a flight engineer on a B-29 in WWII, 
had always hoped there would one day be a restored aircraft that flew.  He was 
a member of the “Confederate” Air Force just so he could get rides in some of 
these old birds.  I’m pretty sure he got to fly in “Fifi” before he passed.

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> 
> There are enough gearheads coming of age who will keep these cool old
> machines flying . . .
> 
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I noticed in the comments that there seems to be a back story about back
>> stabbing.  Interesting.
>> 
>> I wonder what will become of all these old planes and such when the
>> geezers pass and none of the dotcommie kids with money have any interest in
>> anything like that.
>> 
>> --JC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 7/19/16 12:19 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for sharing Dan, that is a great video to watch.  I hope they begin
>>> training / certifying a new flight crew soon, would be awesome to see both
>>> Fifi and Doc in a fly-by.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cool

2016-07-19 Thread Ed Booher via Mercedes

Personally, I've always wanted a Goose.

Edd

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

> There are enough gearheads coming of age who will keep these cool old
> machines flying . . .
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I noticed in the comments that there seems to be a back story about back
> > stabbing.  Interesting.
> >
> > I wonder what will become of all these old planes and such when the
> > geezers pass and none of the dotcommie kids with money have any interest
> in
> > anything like that.
> >
> > --JC
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/19/16 12:19 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for sharing Dan, that is a great video to watch.  I hope they
> begin
> >> training / certifying a new flight crew soon, would be awesome to see
> both
> >> Fifi and Doc in a fly-by.
> >>
> >> -
> >> Max
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>
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> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] Cool

There are enough gearheads coming of age who will keep these cool old
machines flying . . .

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I noticed in the comments that there seems to be a back story about back
> stabbing.  Interesting.
>
> I wonder what will become of all these old planes and such when the
> geezers pass and none of the dotcommie kids with money have any interest in
> anything like that.
>
> --JC
>
>
>
> On 7/19/16 12:19 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Thanks for sharing Dan, that is a great video to watch.  I hope they begin
>> training / certifying a new flight crew soon, would be awesome to see both
>> Fifi and Doc in a fly-by.
>>
>> -
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Re: [MBZ] Jaime, are these guys anybody you know?

2016-07-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

Dealers are privately owned and therefore not a direct  reflection of
Mercedes as a company.



I just wondered if you knew which dealer it might be, since it was in New 
Jerkski.

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Re: [MBZ] Cool

I noticed in the comments that there seems to be a back story about back 
stabbing.  Interesting.


I wonder what will become of all these old planes and such when the 
geezers pass and none of the dotcommie kids with money have any interest 
in anything like that.


--JC


On 7/19/16 12:19 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks for sharing Dan, that is a great video to watch.  I hope they begin
training / certifying a new flight crew soon, would be awesome to see both
Fifi and Doc in a fly-by.

-
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Re: [MBZ] This seems nice for the money

Yes. This is a wagon though.

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> Kaleb & Wilton wrote:
>> Not unless it had an engine swap.
> 
> Didn't the SD have turbo in 1979?
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Re: [MBZ] This seems nice for the money

1978 as well.

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> > Not unless it had an engine swap.
>
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Re: [MBZ] This seems nice for the money

2016-07-19 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Kaleb & Wilton wrote:
> Not unless it had an engine swap.

Didn't the SD have turbo in 1979?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Cool

2016-07-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Thanks for sharing Dan, that is a great video to watch.  I hope they begin
training / certifying a new flight crew soon, would be awesome to see both
Fifi and Doc in a fly-by.

-
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want a military style Seiko 5 for $50?

Depends on what you mean.  I have a Grand Prix SW that is thin, but not
dime-thin.  I also have a REALLY thin Wittnauer 14K gold mechanical winding
wrist watch.

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> Andrew wrote:
> > I collect self wind Longines and Wittnauer watches.
>
> Vintage Longines?
> Do you have their vintage very thin self winding?
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Re: [MBZ] Anybody want a military style Seiko 5 for $50?

2016-07-19 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Andrew wrote:
> I collect self wind Longines and Wittnauer watches.

Vintage Longines?
Do you have their vintage very thin self winding?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Crack Attack

2016-07-19 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


I do wish that were true.

RB

On 18/07/2016 5:12 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:
I've always thought that Canadians were so well-behaved you didn't 
hafta worry 'bout thieves and vandals.

I'm shocked!

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 

To: "Curt Raymond" ; "Mercedes Discussion List" 


Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Crack Attack


I don't live in a bad area but we have been broken into a couple of 
times on the street in front of our house. They broke the window in 
my d-in-l's car and punched the locks out of my 02 Supercrew on 
separate occasions. Someone took the star off the hood on my car 
while parked in a lot in front of a store etc. I knew kids back in 
the day who sort of collected shifter knobs from cars.
We left a set of keys hanging in the door of one of our cars over a 
weekend a few years back and the keys and the car were still there 
when we got back. It was on the curb side so that likely helped.


RB

On 18/07/2016 3:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
You must live in a bad area. My car sits for weeks at a time with 
nothing ever taken. I left my '83 240D once in Boston-Logan airport 
with the keys in the ignition, radio on for a week. When I got home 
it barely cranked over but fired right up for the ride home.
I loved that car, it was so ratty I never worried about leaving it 
anywhere. My Jetta is pretty much at that level now although I did 
some cosmetic rust repair yesterday...

-Curt

   From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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Cc: Randy Bennell 
  Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 4:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Crack Attack
On 18/07/2016 3:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

How the heck do you loose a shifter nob?

Well. for one thing, it you fail to lock the doors, kids will take 
them.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Cool

2016-07-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 09:11:00 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 10:31:06 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > http://www.kansas.com/news/business/aviation/article90144877.html
> > 
> 
> Indeed!
> 
> Don't miss:
> 
> http://www.kansas.com/news/business/aviation/article90217307.html
> Inside Doc's nose
>   A view from inside the nose of the Boeing B-29 bomber "Doc"
>   as it flies over Wichita for the first time in 60 years.
>   Footage courtesy of Doc’s Friends 

And

http://www.kansas.com/news/business/aviation/article90141532.html
Doc’s flight draws onlookers from different points to city’s southside 


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Cool

2016-07-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 10:31:06 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> http://www.kansas.com/news/business/aviation/article90144877.html
> 

Indeed!

Don't miss:

http://www.kansas.com/news/business/aviation/article90217307.html
Inside Doc's nose
A view from inside the nose of the Boeing B-29 bomber "Doc"
as it flies over Wichita for the first time in 60 years.
Footage courtesy of Doc’s Friends 

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Future Hard Disk

I thought DNA was the Next Big Thing in data storage.

--R

On 7/19/16 4:57 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

World's smallest hard disk stores data atom by atom

DELFT, Netherlands, July 18 (UPI) -- Researchers in the Netherlands have
unveiled the world's smallest hard disk.

The disk uses chlorine atoms to represent each bit of information, the most
efficient data storage method yet devised. The hard disk stores 1 kilobyte of
data, or 8,000 bits, and features a storage density of 500 Terabits per square
inch -- 500 times better than the most efficient hard desk on the market.

"In theory, this storage density would allow all books ever created by humans to be
written on a single post stamp," lead researcher Sander Otte, a scientist with the
Kavli Institute of Nanoscience at Delft University, said in a news release.

Researchers used a scanning tunneling microscope to manipulate atoms to
represent binary code, the language used to encode data in computers.

"Every bit consists of two positions on a surface of copper atoms, and one chlorine atom that
we can slide back and forth between these two positions," Otte explained. "If the
chlorine atom is in the top position, there is a hole beneath it -- we call this a 1. If the hole
is in the top position and the chlorine atom is therefore on the bottom, then the bit is a 0."

Using the scanning tunneling microscope, scientists can drag holes around on a
copper surface to encode all kinds of information. Researchers liken the hard
disk to a sliding puzzle, where each piece is either an atom or a hole.

Because each chlorine in atom is surrounded by other chlorine atoms, they
remain stable and stationary. Previous attempts to encode data on the atomic
scale have relied on loose, unanchored atoms.

The data on the hard disk is organized into blocks of 8 bytes, or 64 bits. Each
block has a marker made of holes that works like a bar code, revealing the
location of of the block on the copper layer.

The new method promises major improvements in terms of stability and
scalability, but the technology requires significant improvement before it can
be used in a working datacenter.

"In its current form the memory can operate only in very clean vacuum conditions and at liquid
nitrogen temperature, 77 Kelvins, so the actual storage of data on an atomic scale is still some
way off," Otte said. "But through this achievement we have certainly come a big step
closer."

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Re: [MBZ] This seems nice for the money

2016-07-19 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Zackly.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "rogerhga--- via Mercedes" 

To: "List, Mercedes" 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This seems nice for the money

Wilton,
I think they took the usual "TD" to mean turbo diesel instead of that it's 
a station wagon. It sounds like a dealer who never looked under the hood 
(no engine pics) and wrote a description. It is a nice condition vehicle 
though from what the pics show.

Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com

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Re: [MBZ] Jaime, are these guys anybody you know?

2016-07-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Au contraire a bad dealership is a direct reflection on Mercedes-Benz. They may 
not want it to be but it is.
An example is how nobody in the TDI community will take their car to a VW 
dealer for service. Its become abundantly clear in the community that taking 
your car to VW for service = Broken car. The number of stories of VW dealers 
putting timing belt tensioners in backwards is staggering. So sadly a 
dealership with competent techs is painted with a broad brush...

-Curt

  From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Jaime Kopchinski 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:03 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Jaime, are these guys anybody you know?
   
Dealers are privately owned and therefore not a direct  reflection of
Mercedes as a company.

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
wrote:

> http://www.corporateofficeheadquarters.com/2011/07/mercedes-benz-usa.html
>
> Anonymous
> February 29, 2012 at 3:53 PM
>
> I recently was an employee for a Mercedes Benz Dealership in South Jersey.
> I worked for the body shop and it was as if working for a no name chop shop
> body shop. They do not care for their customers, all they want is the
> insurance money. The best part is that the body shop manager is hooked on
> oxycontin and all other types of narcotic pain medications, so he steals
> from customer vehicles and from the body shop itself and blames the
> employees. So what i did to cover the rest of the employees is record the
> manager stealing/ selling what does not belong to him. I take this
> information to the general service manager and explain to him what is going
> on and 3 days later i was layed off. All managers in that dealership are a
> team, they look out for each other. One employee who has been there for 27
> years knows this has been going on for years and told me not to say
> anything or it would come back and bite me in the rear, IT DID. I would
> strongly recommend taking the vehicle to Princeton Mercedes or other body
> shops. This body shop which is not far from Philadelphia is doing
> everything completely wrong and dishonest. MANAGEMENT not its current
> employees!!!
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[MBZ] Cool