Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curley wrote:

> Section= 1 square mile

640 acres = 1 square mile.

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Re: [MBZ] WILTON: Many people at a certain age stop caring about a lot of silly little rules

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Neat!

W

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Floyd Thursby" 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 9:50 PM
Subject: [MBZ] WILTON: Many people at a certain age stop caring about a lot 
of silly little rules




You need to make this. Recharge it off your dizzel.

http://hackaday.com/2016/08/19/swedish-senior-rolls-in-style-with-hybrid-hoverboard-walker/


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Re: [MBZ] 1995 Mercedes Benz S350d Diesel! Super rare!! Very clean!! Rare color! $7500

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Only the crate engines from the factory had the improved head gasket and 
stronger rods, so unless the seller can prove it (like Walt) then no, still a 
possibility.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 19, 2016 10:23:42 AM EDT, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>By 1995 was the rod bender issue already resolved?   With 175K I would
>guess that if the problem wasn't addressed by then that this car has
>had the repair.  Great looking car! 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
>Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 5:48 PM
>To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>Subject: [MBZ] 1995 Mercedes Benz S350d Diesel! Super rare!! Very
>clean!! Rare color! $7500
>
>How much you all think this is really worth? As nice as it is I say 5k
>or less. I am real tempted to try and raise the cash to buy it if I
>could get it for 5k or less. He started at 10k a month or 2 ago and was
>at 8 for a while. 
>
>1995 Mercedes Benz S350d Diesel! Super rare!! Very clean!! Rare color!
>http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5697564140.html
>
>via cPro for Craigslist
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>
>Sent from my iPhone
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>
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[MBZ] WILTON: Many people at a certain age stop caring about a lot of silly little rules

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You need to make this. Recharge it off your dizzel.

http://hackaday.com/2016/08/19/swedish-senior-rolls-in-style-with-hybrid-hoverboard-walker/


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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

ahem, that was some 50 years after we threw out the brits.  Maine is 
more like US Canada than the rest of the Northeast.  I was talking about 
the gerrymandering property lines where the Brits settled.  Boundaries 
like a crick, or "West to the large oak tree" or East to Mr. John 
Smith's rock wall"  rather than areas laid out in sections.  Where roads 
wander around, rather than following a compass and section lines, (for 
the most part)



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
August 19, 2016 at 7:57 PM
Ahem, when John Pierce first arrived at the junction of the little 
Maewaska and Aroostook rivers in 1826 he was granted a full section.

Of course he thought he was in Canada, not Maine...

Curt


Izzat Benjamin Franklin Pierce's Grampa?
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Ahem, when John Pierce first arrived at the junction of the little Maewaska and 
Aroostook rivers in 1826 he was granted a full section.
Of course he thought he was in Canada, not Maine...

Curt

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  On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   Well, we WERE the first to reject 240 
pennies to the pound, and 20 bob 
to a quid.

The land system here is all set up and laid out in acres.  Trying to 
convert that to commie is just plain stupid.  what is a hectare anyhow?

40 acres could be farmed by one man and a horse.
80 = quarter section
160  = half section
320 = section

Section= 1 square mile

I realize the easterners will not recognize this, since their land was 
laid out by englishers, not 'Mericans.

the digital system of bits and bytes is not decimal either.  32, 64, 
128, 512, etc.

> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> August 19, 2016 at 2:55 PM
> Sort of a silly freedon in today's world.
>
> RB

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Re: [MBZ] for the H-> Bernie supporters

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:37:15 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> However between 1980 and 2013 when income inequality, as measured by
> the Gini Coefficient, expanded by 22.2% the share of federal income
> taxes paid by the highest one-fifth of earners rose from 64.7% to 88.0%
> while the share paid by the lowest one-fifth declined from +0.1% to
> -4.0% (i.e. tax rebates greater than tax payments). Even the middle
> income's share dropped from 10.7% to 3.9% over the 33 years.


Federal Income Tax vs Income

top 20% pay 86.8% of all of the federal income tax collected

45% of tax payers pay no federal income tax

second lowest 20%   get a payment of $621, when they have paid no tax

lowest 20%  get a payment of $643, when they have paid no tax



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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 19, 2016 at 5:42 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>  Our 1974 new tractor was mostly metric except for the tires and wheels.

Michelin tried to go metric about 35 years ago. 
Now try to find tires for your TRX Saab or Mustang. 
I forget who made them after Michelin quit supporting them, but nobody has made
any in quite a while IIRC.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

There won't be much use for SAE tools in 10 years or so, except among 
antiquers.  The car mfgrs and tractor mfgrs are all metric.  John Deere 
started going metric maybe 30 yrs ago.  Our 1974 new tractor was mostly 
metric except for the tires and wheels.  Other than JD, all tractors are 
made in Yurp or asia.  Even the fram stores have metric bolt displays 
nearly as big as the SAE bolt displays.


Imperial Gal = 160 FL oz = 4 imperial Qt (40 Fl oz) = 5 US Qts (32 FL 
Oz.)  All stuff I know off the top of my head.


I am old enough I think in oz, gal, CC and Liters, and also in Inches to 
miles and from mm to kliks and can easily convert back and forth.


I Refuse to use newton-meter as it make NO sense, but I am comfortable 
with Ft-lb or M-kg.


Cycles are still cycles, and don't Hert unless you are well grounded and 
amperage is high.  øhertz



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
August 19, 2016 at 4:03 PM


I am old enough to think in inches and miles and pounds etc but my 
children were educated in a metric world and they think centimeters 
and meters for the most part.
I have arrived at a state where temperature makes sense to me in 
metric now. For a long while I converted but I now know that 20 is ok 
and 30 is hot etc.


I still convert to miles per gallon to figure out how well my vehicle 
is doing but of course I am thinking imperial gallons vs us gallons so 
it would make little sense to you anyway.


A bit of a pain to have both sets of wrenches but it is just another 
excuse to buy more tools and a bigger toolbox.


RB


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[MBZ] for the H-> Bernie supporters

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Tax the rich

From the Desk of Ernie Goss
(Professor of Economics, Creighton University, Omaha)

The Politics of Economics:
Super Rich Meet in Omaha and Propose Tax Hike

Millionaire Hillary Clinton and billionaire Warren Buffet met in Omaha 
earlier this month to trumpet higher income tax rates on upper income 
earners. Ignoring the data, the two super-rich, joined by income 
laggards Dallas Maverick owner Mark Cuban and former New York Mayor 
Michael Bloomberg, argue that levying higher tax burdens on workers in 
the top income bracket will reduce income inequality.


However between 1980 and 2013 when income inequality, as measured by the 
Gini Coefficient, expanded by 22.2% the share of federal income taxes 
paid by the highest one-fifth of earners rose from 64.7% to 88.0% while 
the share paid by the lowest one-fifth declined from +0.1% to -4.0% 
(i.e. tax rebates greater than tax payments). Even the middle income's 
share dropped from 10.7% to 3.9% over the 33 years.


Taxing high income individuals more heavily does not reduce income 
inequality because excessively high tax rates on these earners:


Discourages individuals from pursing higher education and training 
to increase income;
Encourages individuals to reduce work efforts and to increase 
leisure activity;
Restrains small business formation and risk taking by entrepreneurs 
seeking greater financial returns;
Incentivizes individuals to spend excessively on goods and services 
that are deductible from taxes; and

Encourages high income individuals to move to lower tax nations.

Unfortunately for the economy, envy economics, as evidenced in Omaha in 
August, remains a viable political tool by generating votes and 
self-righteous smugness from its devotees.



Read more articles on Professor Goss' blog Economic Trends.

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[MBZ] Walt's W140 in Seattle For Sale

[W140 via Mercedes]

 My New car arrived so am selling the 140 

I have a 1992 W-140 300SD badged as a S350 with 143,000 miles, but only 75.000 
on the engine.The car is located in Everett, Washington 25 miles North of 
Seattle.Just about EVERYTHING new and ALL factory replaced by a Mercedes 
dealer. 
I am a 2nd owner and have had the car since 1998.At 75,000 miles, a NEW factory 
engine, new evaporator, new turbo, new front springs, newshocks, new control 
arm bushings, new exhaust, new injection pump, new engine boost sensor/manifold 
pressure sensor new crankshaft positionsensor new wiring harness, new water 
pump, new blower motor, new enginemounts (all 3), new Fan and Fan Blade Drive 
(main coolant fan), new throttle linkages,new belt tensioner spring. new rubber 
lines, Vacuum fittings and Misc.lines, seals, gaskets, etc you name it the 
factory replaced it. If itsqueaked, clicked or hummed. I got it replaced, ALL 
RECORDS since the day it 
rolled off the boat here in Seattle.On the road I am getting 30 MPG ( I have 
got 31 but I was the only person and no baggage), 
around town getting 22 MPG. It has 800 mile legs with a 28 gal tank. 
Bose AM/FM with 6 CD capacity. 
  Thermo-pane windows (double thick just like your house)
 At 142,000 miles I replaced all Brakes, Generator, Radiator, A/C compressor, 
wiring Harness.
Windshield wipers.Again I have EVERY receipt since it rolled off the boat. Also 
Have ALL Original books, 
Complete Maintenance CD, Original W-140 VCR sales Tape, 2 New Extra Filters
(Oil and Air). And an extra hub (if you need for snow tires) and car cover. 
This car runs like a Swiss Watch.
 OKNow the Bad News. Bumper paint has a few chips, 2 small Car door dings 
in left rear door, 
Just recently the antenna stopped working, this was after they replaced the 
Radiator (coincidence?)
 I can still get local stations. 
Right front fender has a small scrape, I cut it a little close when parking.
The drivers seat has a small cut on the back of the seat which I have covered 
up with tape, Have extra filters (both oil and Air), a complete Maintenance CD, 
Original MB Promo VCR tape. Any questions write me at w...@juno.com
Asking $9500 OBO
I do have pictures both interior and exterior  so if you're really interested 
email me and I will send them to you.
I can deliver anywhere for costs and trip back. Walter Lasher
1992 W-140 300SD/S350
Seattle   

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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 19/08/2016 3:28 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Well, we WERE the first to reject 240 pennies to the pound, and 20 bob 
to a quid.


The land system here is all set up and laid out in acres.  Trying to 
convert that to commie is just plain stupid.  what is a hectare anyhow?


40 acres could be farmed by one man and a horse.
80 = quarter section
160  = half section
320 = section

Section= 1 square mile

I realize the easterners will not recognize this, since their land was 
laid out by englishers, not 'Mericans.


the digital system of bits and bytes is not decimal either.  32, 64, 
128, 512, etc.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
August 19, 2016 at 2:55 PM
Sort of a silly freedon in today's world.

RB


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I am old enough to think in inches and miles and pounds etc but my 
children were educated in a metric world and they think centimeters and 
meters for the most part.
I have arrived at a state where temperature makes sense to me in metric 
now. For a long while I converted but I now know that 20 is ok and 30 is 
hot etc.


I still convert to miles per gallon to figure out how well my vehicle is 
doing but of course I am thinking imperial gallons vs us gallons so it 
would make little sense to you anyway.


A bit of a pain to have both sets of wrenches but it is just another 
excuse to buy more tools and a bigger toolbox.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Well, we WERE the first to reject 240 pennies to the pound, and 20 bob 
to a quid.


The land system here is all set up and laid out in acres.  Trying to 
convert that to commie is just plain stupid.  what is a hectare anyhow?


40 acres could be farmed by one man and a horse.
80 = quarter section
160  = half section
320 = section

Section= 1 square mile

I realize the easterners will not recognize this, since their land was 
laid out by englishers, not 'Mericans.


the digital system of bits and bytes is not decimal either.  32, 64, 
128, 512, etc.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
August 19, 2016 at 2:55 PM
Sort of a silly freedon in today's world.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Naaa, keep the quarts.  Call those who use the commie liters litterers.  
or litterbugs.



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
August 19, 2016 at 2:50 PM
We should call them "freedom liters".



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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

We did adopt commie units.  50+ yrs ago.   Goobers mandated metric.  
Conversion was dictated to be complete by 1974.  I think that was the 
second or third "mandate."   As usual, "Mericans thumbed their noses 
collectively at the goobermnt, and ignored the "mandate."Just as we 
do to bummer and bummerKommieKare.


5280 feet in a mile.  So what? 12 inches in a foot, 12 pennies to the 
bob.  2.54 cm to an inch.  it is all easy enough to convert.

Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
August 19, 2016 at 2:34 PM


USA must be about the only place left that has not adopted metric units.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Sort of a silly freedon in today's world.

RB

On 19/08/2016 2:36 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

FREEDOM!

--FT


On 8/19/16 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 19/08/2016 2:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Did you add liters or quarts?  Are you getting a freedom v. commie 
units mismatch?


--FT



USA must be about the only place left that has not adopted metric units.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

We should call them "freedom liters".

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 3:44 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> And Burma/Myanmar.  'Oughta be proud of that, eh?
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question
>
>
> On 19/08/2016 2:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> Did you add liters or quarts?  Are you getting a freedom v. commie units
>>> mismatch?
>>>
>>> --FT
>>>
>>>
>> USA must be about the only place left that has not adopted metric units.
>>
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[WILTON via Mercedes]

And Burma/Myanmar.  'Oughta be proud of that, eh?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question



On 19/08/2016 2:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Did you add liters or quarts?  Are you getting a freedom v. commie 
units mismatch?


--FT



USA must be about the only place left that has not adopted metric units.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

FREEDOM!

--FT


On 8/19/16 3:34 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 19/08/2016 2:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Did you add liters or quarts?  Are you getting a freedom v. commie 
units mismatch?


--FT



USA must be about the only place left that has not adopted metric units.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Robert Koziak via Mercedes]

Floyd,  


   I did make that mistake in the past.   No I added 8.5 quarts = 8.0 liters.



-Original Message-
From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
To: mercedes 
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2016 3:29 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

Did you add liters or quarts?  Are you getting a freedom v. commie units 
mismatch?

--FT


On 8/19/16 2:40 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> What did the electronic readout say the level was before the oil change?
> Is 7.5 liters a problem?  I'll bet the other 0.5 liters is in the oil
> filter / oil filter housing.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Robert Koziak via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>   Today I changed the oil on my 2004 320ED 4matic using a Topsider and
>> extracting the oil from the top.  I patiently waited a couple of hours to
>> make sure all the oil was drained and the topsider indicated that 8.0
>> liters were removed.  I replaced the filter with Genuine Mercedes and
>> refilled with 8.0 liters go 5W40 Mobil 1.
>>
>>
>> Here is my issue..  As you know Mercedes decided not to put an oil
>> dip stick in that year so I checked it electronically according to the
>> manual.  Followed instructions exactly including the car being totally
>> level.  I consistently get a reading of 7.5 liters.
>>
>>
>> In addition I bought an after market dip stick(KM808), the type you can't
>> leave in the car because it is too long.  The reading on the dip stick 110
>> mm.  Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 19/08/2016 2:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Did you add liters or quarts?  Are you getting a freedom v. commie 
units mismatch?


--FT



USA must be about the only place left that has not adopted metric units.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Did you add liters or quarts?  Are you getting a freedom v. commie units 
mismatch?


--FT


On 8/19/16 2:40 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

What did the electronic readout say the level was before the oil change?
Is 7.5 liters a problem?  I'll bet the other 0.5 liters is in the oil
filter / oil filter housing.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Robert Koziak via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Hi All,


  Today I changed the oil on my 2004 320ED 4matic using a Topsider and
extracting the oil from the top.  I patiently waited a couple of hours to
make sure all the oil was drained and the topsider indicated that 8.0
liters were removed.  I replaced the filter with Genuine Mercedes and
refilled with 8.0 liters go 5W40 Mobil 1.


Here is my issue..  As you know Mercedes decided not to put an oil
dip stick in that year so I checked it electronically according to the
manual.  Followed instructions exactly including the car being totally
level.  I consistently get a reading of 7.5 liters.


In addition I bought an after market dip stick(KM808), the type you can't
leave in the car because it is too long.  The reading on the dip stick 110
mm.  Has anyone else experienced this issue?


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] VERY cool 1948 Windsor on BAT

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Bring  a Trailer has some amazing cars such as this 1948 Chrysler Windsor
> Traveler:
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1948-chrysler-windsor-traveller/
> ___

Sister had one of those in the late '40s. It could be dangerous because its 
early automatic would kick out of gear if you gave it a little too much gas. 
Mechanic said it was designed to do that because it had brass gears that would 
strip with excessive torque or misalignment of gear teeth. Pulling out into 
Richmonds traffic and having it kick out of gear could be exciting since you 
had to wait for the engine to wind down so it would go back into gear. It's 
flathead 6 cylinder engine wasn't a powerhouse.
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Robert Koziak via Mercedes]

Good questionunfortunately I didn't check it before.  All the instructional 
youtube videos I viewed showed 8.0 liters.  


Thanks for the input.



-Original Message-
From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Meade Dillon 
Sent: Fri, Aug 19, 2016 2:40 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

What did the electronic readout say the level was before the oil change?
Is 7.5 liters a problem?  I'll bet the other 0.5 liters is in the oil
filter / oil filter housing.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Robert Koziak via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>  Today I changed the oil on my 2004 320ED 4matic using a Topsider and
> extracting the oil from the top.  I patiently waited a couple of hours to
> make sure all the oil was drained and the topsider indicated that 8.0
> liters were removed.  I replaced the filter with Genuine Mercedes and
> refilled with 8.0 liters go 5W40 Mobil 1.
>
>
> Here is my issue..  As you know Mercedes decided not to put an oil
> dip stick in that year so I checked it electronically according to the
> manual.  Followed instructions exactly including the car being totally
> level.  I consistently get a reading of 7.5 liters.
>
>
> In addition I bought an after market dip stick(KM808), the type you can't
> leave in the car because it is too long.  The reading on the dip stick 110
> mm.  Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] VERY cool 1948 Windsor on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It's a totally funky ride but I bet it smells really oogy inside.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ugh, that looks like the ancestor of the Wagon Queen Family Truckster...
> Just add a couple more headlights and more signal lights, and you're there!
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Bring  a Trailer has some amazing cars such as this 1948 Chrysler Windsor
> > Traveler:
> >
> > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1948-chrysler-windsor-traveller/
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Re: [MBZ] For those with old Diesels

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Jay Leno MUST come!

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:32 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Let's send him a formal invitation for next year. Our 10th anniversary
> bash. Got to do something spectacular.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
>
> On Aug 18, 2016 4:32 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I went there and met him once, nice guy. Took 10 or 15 minutes to chat
> > with me. I invited him to ChowdaQ, it'd be awesome if he came...
> > -Curt
> >
> >   From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> >  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Cc: Meade Dillon 
> >  Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 4:30 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] For those with old Diesels
> >
> > Didja ever check with Tom Hanson, out in CA.  Works for MBNA Classic
> > Center, head of their parts department.  I think he's been mentioned
> > before, maybe once or twice?
> >
> > -
> > Max
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> >
> > On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > > I tried for years to find a kit to rebuild this  control on the swing
> > type
> > > intake manifold for my second MB, the 200D.  It is used from the 1961
> > 190Dc
> > > up to I think 1979 4 cyl Diesels.  The stealer told me nothing was
> > > available.  Now I find out not only are all the parts available, but
> the
> > > whole assembly, reman is only $69 stealer list.  (MB of South Atlanta).
> > >
> > > http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_product=
> > > 8273424_assembly=1077149_make=1103_model=
> > > 16056_driveline=0_trimlevel=20564=1981
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Anything between 6.0 and 8.0L should be OK. 

My E320 (1999) has a dipstick, and the dash display says full, add 1.0 qt, add
1.5qt, add 2.0qt. When it gets to 2.0, alarms chime and the display comes up
automatically. 

I always just threw in 2 gallons at an oil change, which barely got it to full,
and then added a quart every time it said it was 1.5 low.

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Re: [MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

What did the electronic readout say the level was before the oil change?
Is 7.5 liters a problem?  I'll bet the other 0.5 liters is in the oil
filter / oil filter housing.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 1:33 PM, Robert Koziak via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>  Today I changed the oil on my 2004 320ED 4matic using a Topsider and
> extracting the oil from the top.  I patiently waited a couple of hours to
> make sure all the oil was drained and the topsider indicated that 8.0
> liters were removed.  I replaced the filter with Genuine Mercedes and
> refilled with 8.0 liters go 5W40 Mobil 1.
>
>
> Here is my issue..  As you know Mercedes decided not to put an oil
> dip stick in that year so I checked it electronically according to the
> manual.  Followed instructions exactly including the car being totally
> level.  I consistently get a reading of 7.5 liters.
>
>
> In addition I bought an after market dip stick(KM808), the type you can't
> leave in the car because it is too long.  The reading on the dip stick 110
> mm.  Has anyone else experienced this issue?
>
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
> Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] VERY cool 1948 Windsor on BAT

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Ugh, that looks like the ancestor of the Wagon Queen Family Truckster...
Just add a couple more headlights and more signal lights, and you're there!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Bring  a Trailer has some amazing cars such as this 1948 Chrysler Windsor
> Traveler:
>
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1948-chrysler-windsor-traveller/
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Re: [MBZ] For those with old Diesels

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Let's send him a formal invitation for next year. Our 10th anniversary
bash. Got to do something spectacular.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
1990 300D
Wickford RI

On Aug 18, 2016 4:32 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I went there and met him once, nice guy. Took 10 or 15 minutes to chat
> with me. I invited him to ChowdaQ, it'd be awesome if he came...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Meade Dillon 
>  Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 4:30 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] For those with old Diesels
>
> Didja ever check with Tom Hanson, out in CA.  Works for MBNA Classic
> Center, head of their parts department.  I think he's been mentioned
> before, maybe once or twice?
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I tried for years to find a kit to rebuild this  control on the swing
> type
> > intake manifold for my second MB, the 200D.  It is used from the 1961
> 190Dc
> > up to I think 1979 4 cyl Diesels.  The stealer told me nothing was
> > available.  Now I find out not only are all the parts available, but the
> > whole assembly, reman is only $69 stealer list.  (MB of South Atlanta).
> >
> > http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_product=
> > 8273424_assembly=1077149_make=1103_model=
> > 16056_driveline=0_trimlevel=20564=1981
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[MBZ] 2004 Mercedes 320E 4matic Oil Change Question

[Robert Koziak via Mercedes]

Hi All,


 Today I changed the oil on my 2004 320ED 4matic using a Topsider and 
extracting the oil from the top.  I patiently waited a couple of hours to make 
sure all the oil was drained and the topsider indicated that 8.0 liters were 
removed.  I replaced the filter with Genuine Mercedes and refilled with 8.0 
liters go 5W40 Mobil 1.


Here is my issue..  As you know Mercedes decided not to put an oil dip 
stick in that year so I checked it electronically according to the manual.  
Followed instructions exactly including the car being totally level.  I 
consistently get a reading of 7.5 liters.  


In addition I bought an after market dip stick(KM808), the type you can't leave 
in the car because it is too long.  The reading on the dip stick 110 mm.  Has 
anyone else experienced this issue?


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  


Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] VERY cool 1948 Windsor on BAT

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I can remember when Car and Driver did a feature on the merits of a Windsor as
Hippie transport, some time around 1970. 

Here's some more BAT, a pretty blue W108:
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-mercedes-benz-280-sel-4-5/

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Re: [MBZ] Who likes green cars?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I kinda like that.  A guy I know has a bright orange one, they would 
look good together.


--FT


On 8/19/16 11:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

This one's a beauty - '73 Datsun Z in "avocado" but looks more like
Mercedes moss green.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252500492998?rmvSB=true
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Re: [MBZ] Who likes green cars?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

For that amount you could purchase a half dozen really nice E type jags in
decent condition.

On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If a 240Z is worth $14k, what's a 2000GT worth?
>
> Holy cow, just answered my own question:
> http://jalopnik.com/this-1-2-million-toyota-nearly-tripled-
> in-value-in-thr-484505000
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Re: [MBZ] Who likes green cars?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

If a 240Z is worth $14k, what's a 2000GT worth?

Holy cow, just answered my own question:
http://jalopnik.com/this-1-2-million-toyota-nearly-tripled-in-value-in-thr-484505000

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[MBZ] Who likes green cars?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This one's a beauty - '73 Datsun Z in "avocado" but looks more like
Mercedes moss green.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252500492998?rmvSB=true
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[MBZ] VERY cool 1948 Windsor on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Bring  a Trailer has some amazing cars such as this 1948 Chrysler Windsor
Traveler:

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1948-chrysler-windsor-traveller/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Very Best Olympians

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My thoughts exactly.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Very clearly they are devoted followers of Brother Don Trump
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 8/18/16 4:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> NOT!!
>>
>> There was no robbery in Rio de Janeiro as alleged by US Olympic swimmers,
>> Civil Police Chief Fernando Veloso says.
>> > bbery-questions/index.html>
>>
>> According to Brazilian police, one of the swimmers confirmed what was seen
>> in surveillance video: that the Olympians -- Ryan Lochte, Jack Conger,
>> Gunnar Bentz and James Feigen -- were committing acts of vandalism at a
>> gas
>> station when confronted by security guards.
>>
>> A security guard pointed a gun at the swimmers, but it was not an
>> excessive
>> use of force, Veloso said. Lochte was confrontational with security guards
>> and "very angry because he was intoxicated," Veloso said. The swimmers
>> offered payment for the damage while at the scene.
>>
>> One or all of the swimmers could potentially be charged for “false
>> communication of a crime and for damaging private assets,” but they are
>> unlikely to be arrested, Veloso said. He suggested they should apologize
>> to
>> residents.
>>
>> --
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>> , CNN.com 
>> and CNN
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Re: [MBZ] 1995 Mercedes Benz S350d Diesel! Super rare!! Very clean!! Rare color! $7500

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

By 1995 was the rod bender issue already resolved?   With 175K I would guess 
that if the problem wasn't addressed by then that this car has had the repair.  
Great looking car! 

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 5:48 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] 1995 Mercedes Benz S350d Diesel! Super rare!! Very clean!! Rare 
color! $7500

How much you all think this is really worth? As nice as it is I say 5k or less. 
I am real tempted to try and raise the cash to buy it if I could get it for 5k 
or less. He started at 10k a month or 2 ago and was at 8 for a while. 

1995 Mercedes Benz S350d Diesel! Super rare!! Very clean!! Rare color!
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5697564140.html

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Re: [MBZ] Decent 111?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

nope.  That IS sacrilege.The M180 is smooth and quiet.  A 350 is not.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
August 19, 2016 at 8:48 AM
Just drop a 350 in it and be done!

--FT




Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
August 19, 2016 at 5:37 AM
That and the electric fuel pump. Suggests an uninformed mechanic who made
bad choices for repairs.

Jaime


On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <

Curley McLain 
August 18, 2016 at 7:13 PM
You mean the webers?  Or was there something I missed?  He sez he'll 
include the zeniths.  To me, that is ALL good.



Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
August 18, 2016 at 6:52 PM
It does looks nice, except for the "upgrades" to the fuel system which are
anything but.

Jaime


On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <

Curley McLain 
August 18, 2016 at 12:13 AM

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/5719753514.html




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Re: [MBZ] Decent 111?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Just drop a 350 in it and be done!

--FT


On 8/19/16 9:46 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
True, the electric fuel pump may be a red flag, or it may have been 
done to cure a F.O.R.D. situation, and not yet repaired permanently.  
I put an electric fuel pump on a vw to cure the combination of no 
transfer pump and use of a rotary IP.  I don't believe that needs an 
apology.


However, Weber carbs are regarded as an upgrade, not butchery. The 
zeniths are infamous for warping and being unable to tune correctly.   
It ia analogous to the Carter/Holly arguments among muscle car 
aficionados.   Putting a holly on a SS396 may be sacrilege to some, 
but it IS a lot easier to work on and may deliver better performance.


I agree with Max, that every used MB has some things that need to be 
undone and done correctly, or to the owner's taste.



Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
August 19, 2016 at 5:37 AM
That and the electric fuel pump. Suggests an uninformed mechanic who 
made

bad choices for repairs.

Jaime


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Curley McLain 
August 18, 2016 at 7:13 PM
You mean the webers?  Or was there something I missed?  He sez he'll 
include the zeniths.  To me, that is ALL good.



Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
August 18, 2016 at 6:52 PM
It does looks nice, except for the "upgrades" to the fuel system 
which are

anything but.

Jaime


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Curley McLain 
August 18, 2016 at 12:13 AM

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/5719753514.html




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Re: [MBZ] Decent 111?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

True, the electric fuel pump may be a red flag, or it may have been done 
to cure a F.O.R.D. situation, and not yet repaired permanently.  I put 
an electric fuel pump on a vw to cure the combination of no transfer 
pump and use of a rotary IP.  I don't believe that needs an apology.


However, Weber carbs are regarded as an upgrade, not butchery.  The 
zeniths are infamous for warping and being unable to tune correctly.   
It ia analogous to the Carter/Holly arguments among muscle car 
aficionados.   Putting a holly on a SS396 may be sacrilege to some, but 
it IS a lot easier to work on and may deliver better performance.


I agree with Max, that every used MB has some things that need to be 
undone and done correctly, or to the owner's taste.



Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
August 19, 2016 at 5:37 AM
That and the electric fuel pump. Suggests an uninformed mechanic who made
bad choices for repairs.

Jaime


On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <

Curley McLain 
August 18, 2016 at 7:13 PM
You mean the webers?  Or was there something I missed?  He sez he'll 
include the zeniths.  To me, that is ALL good.



Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
August 18, 2016 at 6:52 PM
It does looks nice, except for the "upgrades" to the fuel system which are
anything but.

Jaime


On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <

Curley McLain 
August 18, 2016 at 12:13 AM

http://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/5719753514.html




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Re: [MBZ] Decent 111?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Good point, may be other similar "repairs" not disclosed.  All the cheap 
Mercedes I've bought have arrived with "repairs" that needed to be undone, the 
real problem diagnosed and then properly repaired.
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On August 19, 2016 6:37:21 AM EDT, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>That and the electric fuel pump.  Suggests an uninformed mechanic who
>made
>bad choices for repairs.
>
>Jaime
>
>
>On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> You mean the webers?  Or was there something I missed?  He sez he'll
>> include the zeniths.  To me, that is ALL good.
>>
>> Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>>> August 18, 2016 at 6:52 PM
>>> It does looks nice, except for the "upgrades" to the fuel system
>which are
>>> anything but.
>>>
>>> Jaime
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>>>
>>> Curley McLain 
>>> August 18, 2016 at 12:13 AM
>>>
>>> http://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/5719753514.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Decent 111?

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

That and the electric fuel pump.  Suggests an uninformed mechanic who made
bad choices for repairs.

Jaime


On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You mean the webers?  Or was there something I missed?  He sez he'll
> include the zeniths.  To me, that is ALL good.
>
> Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>> August 18, 2016 at 6:52 PM
>> It does looks nice, except for the "upgrades" to the fuel system which are
>> anything but.
>>
>> Jaime
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 18, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>>
>> Curley McLain 
>> August 18, 2016 at 12:13 AM
>>
>> http://desmoines.craigslist.org/cto/5719753514.html
>>
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