Re: [MBZ] I'm Channeling Ansel Adams/Edward Weston

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curt wrote:

> How do you know it's a manual transmission? I count the lack of
> info in the ad as a major detractor. Almost as bad as the rust.

I'm psychic.  And I read the whole add.  Up above near the picture
it says "Transmission: manual"  *smiles*

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Re: [MBZ] Polei drives to ND

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

When I put 4 Blizzaks on the SDL and later on the E320, both were like 
riding in a high speed snow cat.  Very sure-footed.



clay via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 11:01 PM
No cruise control on Polei, so it was all foot work for hours and 
hours. By the end of the trip, my right knee was screaming. Italian 
tune ups, even in the snow are just what the medico ordered


clay




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Re: [MBZ] Polei drives to ND

[clay via Mercedes]

No cruise control on Polei, so it was all foot work for hours and hours.  By 
the end of the trip, my right knee was screaming.  Italian tune ups, even in 
the snow are just what the medico ordered

clay



> On Feb 25, 2017, at 6:52 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> the 126 is a truly great car.  I will argue the best highway car ever made.  
> You just did what it is made for.
> 
> You will have a very  different trip trying to replicate the same trip in a 
> cheep.
> 
> The one MT trooper I met was VERY nice.  Gave me a $5 ticket for 20 over (75 
> in 55) and told me the ticket is "unreported."  In the 55 days, they knew how 
> to do things RIGHT in MT.  As a bonus, she was good lookin too!
> 
> I thought nothing of driving my SDL on a 3-4000 mile week.  Most weeks were 
> around 2500 though.
> 
>> clay via Mercedes 
>> February 25, 2017 at 4:44 PM
>> #1 boy's jeep kacked big when he dove to SEA. I had to transport him back to 
>> Wiiliston or he gets fired. Only drivable option was Polei. 18 hours in snow 
>> and dark, with one MT trooper taking an interest for a few miles.
>> 
>> She performed admirably. I am on the train to SEA to recover the jeep from 
>> dealer service and will be heading right back out to ND.
>> 
>> About 3500 miles in one week on a 30 year old car. Will need an oil change 
>> for certain
>> Clay
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] 123 armrest

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Disassemble the car.  Last 2 things left are the driver armreat and the 
heater.



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 10:57 PM
What steps are involved in r/r the center 123 armrest?


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Re: [MBZ] Polei drives to ND

[clay via Mercedes]

I did not have the lights attached.  Best not to create too much interest.  
Coppers were chatting donuts in the median as we blew past.  Within speed 
limit, just confused the LEO and he had to check the tags, which are 
appropriate for WA collector car being tabbed 1986 and period appropriate 
plates.

A few hours before we hit the road, the frakkin’ parking nazi came by and gave 
a citation.  Meter maid is not conversant with WA licensing law.

clay



> On Feb 25, 2017, at 4:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you pop your lights on for a few seconds to scare him off?
> 
> +1 on W126 coming through.  You can’t kill these cars.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2017, at 5:44 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> #1 boy's jeep kacked big when he dove to SEA.  I had to transport him back 
>> to Wiiliston or he gets fired.  Only drivable option was Polei.  18 hours in 
>> snow and dark, with one MT trooper taking an interest for a few miles.
>> 
>> She performed admirably.  I am on the train to SEA to recover the jeep from 
>> dealer service and will be heading right back out to ND.  
>> 
>> About 3500 miles in one week on a 30 year old car.  Will need an oil change 
>> for certain
>> Clay
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Re: [MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun (Sunday)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What steps are involved in r/r the center 123 armrest?

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Got the Leatherique cleaned up and done.  Leather recovered well, the only
> issue being that Leatherique darkens any splits or cracks.  Not a big deal,
> just an appearance thing.  I’ve got a new armrest cover coming from my
> upholstery guy in CA - $20 shipped.
>
> Got the trunk badge cleaned up and installed, including painting the
> accent line below the characters.  Painted the radiator badge, too.  Found
> an auxiliary input cable for the Kenwood stereo that’s in it on Amazon for
> $9, so that’s on the way.  Got my dealer parts order all ready to text in
> tomorrow morning.  Thinking about taking Wednesday off so I can get
> everything done at once - caliper, wheel bearing and flex disc among other
> things.
>
> Danged oak trees are doing their spring thing, meaning that any dark
> colored car has a near permanent yellow dusting on it.  The youngest boy
> had to go up to Williston Saturday and Sunday to do his SCUBA and Nitrox
> qualifications in the springs, so I had him drive my car (which loved every
> minute of that open highway cruising.)  I gave it a quick wash and
> immediately put the car cover on it. Between the cover and being parked in
> a closed garage at work it should stay pretty clean.
>
> Cleaning up before some friends come over for dinner.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 26, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Took the 300D out for the early morning grocery run as promised.  It was
> pleased to get out and stretch its legs.
> >
> > I don’t really have a lot to do with the 300SEL until I start getting
> some parts.  Since it’s a nice sunny Florida day, I slathered the front
> seats with some Leatherique and will let it bake.
> >
> > I might drain and refill the power steering system since I have
> everything I need for that.  I’ve cleaned the PS cooler that runs in front
> of the radiator so I can watch it to see if it does have a leak.  Quite
> honestly I don’t think it does - the junction where the hoses connect to it
> look like they’ve been seeping for a long time, and I’m wondering if it’s
> possible that the fluid has just been creeping down the lines.  The
> connection is really buried on the left front inner fender and the clamp
> screws are turned towards the top, so I’ll see if I can get in there and
> tighten them up, maybe.
> >
> > After the Leatherique has done its thing I might do some more interior
> cleaning.  The dash is in great condition, but the driver and passenger
> doors look sort of yellowed. I’m not sure if this is just aging or maybe
> the car had a smoker in the past.  If it did there’s not evidence of it
> that I can find.
> >
> > Washed the SL500 as it needed it.  Gotta run the sweeper in the interior
> and it will be good for a couple of weeks.
> >
> > Going to do an inventory of future work so I can plan accordingly.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] stupid money for a 560SL

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Would probably bring $15k on BAT.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6019188367.html
>
>
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> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] Polei drives to ND

[clay via Mercedes]

IT was a desperation move.  The POS W220 is in the shop, the R107 is not going 
on long winter drives, and the Free 300SD is not registered.  Nobody around 
here was at all supportive of the idea of taking her, but I knew she was the 
only car I had that just might make it.   Drive it like it stole it, in the 
snow and all the rest.  I was holding my breath the whole way there, until we 
were less than 200 miles from Williston.  That was AAA range for a tow.

Hills were scalable, as were mountain passes.  Sometimes it was a struggle to 
get up them at speed, or hold speed, but she came right back up with no issues. 
 MT speeds are in the 80mph range.  Best to keep her just under that.

clay




> On Feb 25, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Congrats on bringing her into good driving condition!
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On February 25, 2017 5:44:16 PM EST, clay via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> #1 boy's jeep kacked big when he dove to SEA.  I had to transport him
>> back to Wiiliston or he gets fired.  Only drivable option was Polei. 
>> 18 hours in snow and dark, with one MT trooper taking an interest for a
>> few miles.
>> 
>> She performed admirably.  I am on the train to SEA to recover the jeep
>> from dealer service and will be heading right back out to ND.  
>> 
>> About 3500 miles in one week on a 30 year old car.  Will need an oil
>> change for certain
>> Clay
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun (so far)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

A ppi might have been worth the price to avoid the hassles.

I directed Wilton's relative (Niece? Granddaughter?) to Steve Pelham for 
a ppi when she wanted a newish MB.  Fortunately she called Wilton for 
advice, and I was able to point her towards Pelhams.   The heap turned 
out to be a heap.  Pretty much nothing maintained since it left the 
stealer as new  Saved her from hating MBs when it is NOT the MB's fault.


ID
10
T Error on the part of the PO in both cases.

The younger generations won't even consider painting a room when they 
buy a used house.  How/why should they be expected to follow recommended 
maintenance? (When it has to be a out of pocket expense...



clay via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 10:41 PM
A person should always do his diligence when he get a new ride.

#1 boy is learning that the hard way. I made sure we did fluids and 
filters on his SE. He chose not to do the wire harness or head gasket 
which we knew needed attention when he picked it up. He did not 
winterize the car and in a deep freeze with summer oil and other 
climate ignoring he blew the top radiator hose at -30c. That put the 
car out of service. December of 2016.


He borrowed a car for almost two months to be able to get to work, and 
then picked up a 2006 Jeep cherokee. No inspection or other attention. 
He drove it out to the coast from ND last week, having owned it a 
week. This was a deal he and SWMBA made without my input. I pointed 
out it was just another Benz, which SWMBA now hates. While being a 
passenger I heard some not pleasing to the brain noises. Turns out no 
upkeep seems to have been done for a number of years. Extreme 
condition driving location. The brake fluid was BLACK. I thought the 
diffs were grindy. The whole drive line needed fluid and filters along 
with a bunch of other attention. He and I had done an oil change the 
evening before he was heading back to ND (1200 mile drive). When he 
tried to leave, his CEL went crazy. He ended up taking it to Yeep 
deeler and had to leave it while i hauled his butt to ND so he would 
not get fired for failing to clock in at work for 14 days. Plugs and 
wires needed attention as well as needing to clean out the air intake 
that was almost completely blocked. Clean air filter though.





Clay

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Curley McLain 
February 25, 2017 at 9:29 AM
Considering that most vehicles NEVER get it changed, I think 60 k is 
safe, esp with M1.  I try to change it in every MB I buy, then don't 
worry about it much other than a level check now and then.  But most 
of my MBs don't get 100k on them after I bought it.  240D is about 
there, the first SDL was well over 200K, so it got changed again, and 
was due.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
February 25, 2017 at 9:19 AM
So maybe I should push my intervals out to 60k…

-D




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Curley McLain 
February 25, 2017 at 9:16 AM
E check?   I'd guess it is good for 100k.  I don't think it is on the 
list for E service.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
February 25, 2017 at 8:58 AM
What is a good interval on the diff oil when using M1? There is not an 
interval listed for my 97, I have not dug thru any older ones yet.


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Re: [MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun (so far)

[clay via Mercedes]

A person should always do his diligence when he get a new ride.

#1 boy is learning that the hard way.  I made sure we did fluids and filters on 
his SE.  He chose not to do the wire harness or head gasket which we knew 
needed attention when he picked it up.  He did not winterize the car and in a 
deep freeze with summer oil and other climate ignoring he blew the top radiator 
hose at -30c.  That put the car out of service.   December of 2016.

He borrowed a car for almost two months to be able to get to work, and then 
picked up a 2006 Jeep cherokee.  No inspection or other attention.  He drove it 
out to the coast from ND last week, having owned it a week.   This was a deal 
he and SWMBA made without my input.  I pointed out it was just another Benz, 
which SWMBA now hates.  While being a passenger I heard some not pleasing to 
the brain noises.  Turns out no upkeep seems to have been done for a number of 
years.  Extreme condition driving location.  The brake fluid was BLACK.  I 
thought the diffs were grindy.   The whole drive line needed fluid and filters 
along with a bunch of other attention.  He and I had done an oil change the 
evening before he was heading back to ND (1200 mile drive).  When he tried to 
leave, his CEL went crazy.  He ended up taking it to Yeep deeler and had to 
leave it while i hauled his butt to ND so he would not get fired for failing to 
clock in at work for 14 days.  Plugs and wires needed attention as well as 
needing to clean out the air intake that was almost completely blocked.  Clean 
air filter though.




Clay

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> On Feb 25, 2017, at 7:29 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> Considering that most vehicles NEVER get it changed, I think 60 k is safe, 
> esp with M1.  I try to change it in every MB I buy, then don't worry about it 
> much other than a level check now and then.  But most of my MBs don't get 
> 100k on them after I bought it.  240D is about there, the first SDL was well 
> over 200K, so it got changed again, and was due.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> February 25, 2017 at 9:19 AM
>> So maybe I should push my intervals out to 60k…
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 135, Issue 123

[clay via Mercedes]

I could not even find the item on their web site. I am not sure they are the 
only providers though.  I have cleaned four antennae? and all had their own 
belts, none the same

clay

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 9:57 AM, Ronald Courcy via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> with regards to antenna drive belts. My last interaction with Continental USA 
> was quite a while ago but in summary  they said they could not sell the belt 
> to me directly due to contract limitations. However they said nothing 
> prevented them from giving me the belt. Which they did. So why don't you 
> contact them and see if they are still willing to provide the belt for free. 
> Ron Courcy
> 
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>   1. Re: 83 300SD (clay)
>   2. Re: 83 300SD (Dan Penoff)
>   3. Re: Buy my Stuff (Kaleb C. Striplin)
>   4. Re: 83 300SD (Scott Ritchey)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 18:08:42 -0800
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> Then it must be a  which leads to less 
> busting desire
> 
> clay
> 
> 
>> On Feb 19, 2017, at 6:04 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Strange - our kids and their friends are all busting butt and getting
>> results for the most part, despite the lousy job climate for their age
>> group.
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 7:53 PM, clay via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> We did not do this alone.  The whole population of them just has no drive
>>> or desire it seems.  There are a few kids who will bust a hump to get
>>> ahead.  There were many who shares schooling with my kids.  A bunch went
>>> off to Yuuuge liberal arts schools with their talent.  I am not sure if
>>> they blew a gasket in the past five years after getting out from under
>>> mummy and daddy?s thumb.   A few kids I knew back in the day who were
>>> overly successful in Highschool, had tigermom parents, and the kids burned
>>> out within three years.  A few had major psychic problems.
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> *?Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.?* ? Mark Twain
>> 
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] Hirschmann belt

[clay via Mercedes]

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> On Feb 20, 2017, at 8:50 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Clay.
> 
> Will need an address.
> 
> Fred.
> 
> 
> Fred Moir.
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> Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] Hirschmann belt

[clay via Mercedes]

The belts came in while I was out rescuing #1 boy.  I just put one on and it 
works very well

clay

> On Feb 20, 2017, at 7:55 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A real industrial belt shop should be able to get the gates belt for you.
> 
>> clay via Mercedes 
>> February 20, 2017 at 8:36 PM
>> I snooped around the interwebs looking for this belt shop. They make them 
>> too large. I grabbed another antenna and saw that it used a Gates 722015 001 
>> belt, but that is not findable on the interwebz either. I did find a few 
>> chynee places, but it was too hard to understand the pictographs to match 
>> what i have on hand. Then I found the boys at polybelt.com and got some 
>> 60tMXL025 Rubber Timing Belt 60 Tooth MXL. I will see how well that works 
>> out. Might be able to repair a few antennas and put them to good use
>> 
>> 
>> clay
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Re: [MBZ] Lumber question

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Yep, the corner where it was getting wet just crumbled apart.

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> On Feb 26, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> OSB does well on tests of strength WHEN IT IS NEW and VERY dry!  It does very 
> well on compression, torsion and shear tests.  It is adequate on tensile 
> tests, all when new.
> 
> After years in real use, it SUCKS!   Havn't you seen sheds or garages made of 
> OSB where it is coming apart?  I sure have!  yours is now 15 yrs old, and sat 
> exposed for however long until the bank got windows put in.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> February 26, 2017 at 8:43 PM
>> From what I am reading they say OSB is better than plywood.  Not sure I buy 
>> that.  I have seen 7/8 listed as an os size on online.  I am not sure why 
>> they used this size unless it was common when this house was built in 02. 
>> Going to have to check the local lumber yard in the morning.  The depot and 
>> Lowes does not have it.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I'm Channeling Ansel Adams/Edward Weston

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Its a marsaydeez!  that makes it worth 10k as a rustbucket! 


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 8:14 PM
How do you know it's a manual transmission? I count the lack of info 
in the ad as a major detractor. Almost as bad as the rust.


Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Lumber question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

OSB does well on tests of strength WHEN IT IS NEW and VERY dry!  It does 
very well on compression, torsion and shear tests.  It is adequate on 
tensile tests, all when new.


After years in real use, it SUCKS!   Havn't you seen sheds or garages 
made of OSB where it is coming apart?  I sure have!  yours is now 15 yrs 
old, and sat exposed for however long until the bank got windows put in.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 8:43 PM
From what I am reading they say OSB is better than plywood.  Not sure 
I buy that.  I have seen 7/8 listed as an os size on online.  I am not 
sure why they used this size unless it was common when this house was 
built in 02. Going to have to check the local lumber yard in the 
morning.  The depot and Lowes does not have it.




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Re: [MBZ] Lumber question

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

From what I am reading they say OSB is better than plywood.  Not sure I 
buy that.  I have seen 7/8 listed as an os size on online.  I am not 
sure why they used this size unless it was common when this house was 
built in 02. Going to have to check the local lumber yard in the 
morning.  The depot and Lowes does not have it.



On 2/26/2017 7:39 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

I've never even heard of 7/8" thick OSB CTC crap.Now I have

Aren't you LUCKY!


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 7:27 PM
Well I am really a dumb ass. After cutting up a $60 piece of plywood 
and jacking around with it most of the day I had the bright idea to 
just crawl under the repair area to see what the adjoining subfloor 
was stamped. It's 7/8. Wow sure would have saved me a lot of time and 
money if I did that to start with.


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Re: [MBZ] I'm Channeling Ansel Adams/Edward Weston

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

How do you know it's a manual transmission? I count the lack of info in the ad 
as a major detractor. Almost as bad as the rust.

Curt

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  On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 6:47 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:   > Dan wrote:

> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6020801431.html

Err...  if so, he is failing.  The shadows are too dark.  Ansel
would never approve. :)

However, that's a good car to get!  

Manual transmission.

It's post '81 so it has the better camshaft and injection pump,
the more durable seat stuffing

It is NOT an '85.

It's too far away, and I'm not desperate enough to turn loose that
much money.  *sigh*

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yep, and a 2 lb hammer makes em work good, and helps to loosen the screw.


OK Don via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 7:49 PM
What Rick said - those work great for Phillips head screws, as the hammer
drives the bit into the slot while banging and turning it. Highly
recommended for this application.

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Re: [MBZ] I'm Channeling Ansel Adams/Edward Weston

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I think his kid changed his smart phone camera to b/w, and he's not able to 
change it back...
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[OK Don via Mercedes]

What Rick said - those work great for Phillips head screws, as the hammer
drives the bit into the slot while banging and turning it. Highly
recommended for this application.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have used a hand impact, with a 6mm impact socket on a 123. I assume
> they are similar to the 126.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002NYDRG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?
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Re: [MBZ] Floor update

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I thought Kerdi is what is knockin off the black flag towel guys whose 
name can't be mentioned



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 7:31 PM
Thanks, sounds like a lot of sales mumbo-jumbo. That's what you used 
in your addition?

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 11:16 AM
Ditra is this stuff.  Kerdi is the waterproofing stuff for showers and 
such.  Their stuff makes a great system for tiling.


https://www.amazon.com/Schluter-Systems-Ditra54-Underlayment-54sqft/dp/B003VKYKWA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8=1488129224=8-7=schluter+kerdi+membrane 






Max Dillon via Mercedes 
February 25, 2017 at 3:53 PM
Kerdi?


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Re: [MBZ] Lumber question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I've never even heard of 7/8" thick OSB CTC crap.Now I have

Aren't you LUCKY!


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 7:27 PM
Well I am really a dumb ass. After cutting up a $60 piece of plywood 
and jacking around with it most of the day I had the bright idea to 
just crawl under the repair area to see what the adjoining subfloor 
was stamped. It's 7/8. Wow sure would have saved me a lot of time and 
money if I did that to start with.


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Re: [MBZ] Problem with the web site?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That page has been broken for years now.

This link (from the bottom of the email) should work for new subscribers:

http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On February 26, 2017 4:54:30 PM EST, MG via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Has anyone tried going to the main page on the Okiebenz site
>http://okiebenz.com/
>
>A friend to whom I recommended that he join the group since he 
>has an 82 or so 300CD can't get anywhere off that page. Nothing 
>works so he can't apply to join the list. I tried the same and 
>had the same problem. Nothing on the main page will go anywhere.
>
>I know I can send him a link but I figured if we are both having 
>that problem then how many others who might want to join are 
>having that problem.
>
>Manfred
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Re: [MBZ] Lumber question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

If underlayment was 1/4, that would be perfect.

How about this?  23/32 OSB (cheat the consumer) crap then 1/4" 4x8 
sheets of cement board, with the joints staggered?


New acronym:  OSB CTC  for cheat the consumer!  7/16 for 1/2 plywood 
sheeting.  How's that for CTC too?




MG via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 6:24 PM
Try layering a piece of the new thinner cheat the consumer 3/4 and a 
piece of cheating 3/8 and you might be just about right.






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Re: [MBZ] I'm Channeling Ansel Adams/Edward Weston

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

And it is a $500 rustbucket.


fmiser via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 5:47 PM

Dan wrote:



https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6020801431.html


Err...  if so, he is failing.  The shadows are too dark.  Ansel
would never approve. :)

However, that's a good car to get!

Manual transmission.

It's post '81 so it has the better camshaft and injection pump,
the more durable seat stuffing

It is NOT an '85.

It's too far away, and I'm not desperate enough to turn loose that
much money.  *sigh*

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February 26, 2017 at 2:11 PM
https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6020801431.html 



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Re: [MBZ] Floor update

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks, sounds like a lot of sales mumbo-jumbo.  That's what you used in your 
addition?
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On February 26, 2017 12:16:21 PM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Ditra is this stuff.  Kerdi is the waterproofing stuff for showers and 
>such.  Their stuff makes a great system for tiling.
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Schluter-Systems-Ditra54-Underlayment-54sqft/dp/B003VKYKWA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8=1488129224=8-7=schluter+kerdi+membrane
>
>
>On 2/25/17 4:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Kerdi?
>
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>Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might
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Re: [MBZ] Lumber question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I believe that OSB crap is the most dimensionally unstable wood product 
ever invented or sawed.  7/16 sheeting becomes 5/8 thick after being in 
the normal air for a couple years and stabilizing.  Is there a vapor 
barrier under the floor?  I am guessing you have the cheaped out 3/4 OSB 
crap (23/32) and it has swollen to 1"Real 3/4" plywood is 10 times 
better, especially for floors.  Of course if you live in parts of CA, AZ 
or NV, ymmv in the desert.  I suspect over the next 20-50 years there 
will be a whole lot of that crap torn out and replaced.  Not an easy 
proposition when the whole building is built on the deck covered with OSB.


They used sawdust glued together with urea-formaldahyde or worse, water 
soluble glue in trailer houses for years.a few drops of water and 
you get a hole in the floor.  Bad deal.


And now they have priced 3/4 plywood out o sight.   Not good!

I think the 3/4 AWWF (.60) treated plywood might be cheaper than plain 
plywood if you are building a house and buying 20 or more sheets at a 
time.  The folks that use plywood for basement walls need to be 
competitive.  About 5 yrs ago it was very competitive with regular 
plywood and not much more than the OSB crap.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 5:24 PM
Yesterday while at Lowes we bought 23/32 osb subflooring which 
appeared to be too thin compared to the subfloor in the house. When I 
measured our existing floor I get 1". There appears to be no such 
thing as 1". We took it back and got the 1 1/8 which I figure maybe I 
was reading it wrong by an 8th of an inch on the measuring tape. Got 
it home cut to fit and where as the trim base boards around the rest 
of the room have a gap big enough for the previous tile and will allow 
the pergo to slide up under, this subfloor fits right up with the trim 
board with no room, it is obviously is just a little thicker than what 
is in the house. So our options appear to be to either leave it as is 
and use quarter round along the baseboard to secure the edge of the 
pergo, or we are going to have to go back with the smaller and I'm 
afraid it may be way too short compared to the adjacent subflooring. Wtf?


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Re: [MBZ] Lumber question

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well I am really a dumb ass. After cutting up a $60 piece of plywood and 
jacking around with it most of the day I had the bright idea to just crawl 
under the repair area to see what the adjoining subfloor was stamped. It's 7/8. 
Wow sure would have saved me a lot of time and money if I did that to start 
with.

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> On Feb 26, 2017, at 6:24 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Try layering a piece of the new thinner cheat the consumer 3/4 and a piece of 
> cheating 3/8 and you might be just about right.
> 
> 
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Yesterday while at Lowes we bought 23/32 osb subflooring which appeared to 
>> be too thin compared to the subfloor in the house. When I measured our 
>> existing floor I get 1". There appears to be no such thing as 1". We took it 
>> back and got the 1 1/8 which I figure maybe I was reading it wrong by an 8th 
>> of an inch on the measuring tape. Got it home cut to fit and where as the 
>> trim base boards around the rest of the room have a gap big enough for the 
>> previous tile and will allow the pergo to slide up under, this subfloor fits 
>> right up with the trim board with no room, it is obviously is just a little 
>> thicker than what is in the house. So our options appear to be to either 
>> leave it as is and use quarter round along the baseboard to secure the edge 
>> of the pergo, or we are going to have to go back with the smaller and I'm 
>> afraid it may be way too short compared to the adjacent subflooring. Wtf?
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Re: [MBZ] Photographer of the day

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Apparently you shamed him into deleting the ad, or he sold it.
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On February 26, 2017 10:49:41 AM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
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>
>
>91 Mercedes
>http://amarillo.craigslist.org/cto/6013442587.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Lumber question

[MG via Mercedes]

Try layering a piece of the new thinner cheat the consumer 3/4 
and a piece of cheating 3/8 and you might be just about right.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Yesterday while at Lowes we bought 23/32 osb subflooring which appeared to be too thin 
compared to the subfloor in the house. When I measured our existing floor I get 1". 
There appears to be no such thing as 1". We took it back and got the 1 1/8 which I 
figure maybe I was reading it wrong by an 8th of an inch on the measuring tape. Got it 
home cut to fit and where as the trim base boards around the rest of the room have a gap 
big enough for the previous tile and will allow the pergo to slide up under, this 
subfloor fits right up with the trim board with no room, it is obviously is just a little 
thicker than what is in the house. So our options appear to be to either leave it as is 
and use quarter round along the baseboard to secure the edge of the pergo, or we are 
going to have to go back with the smaller and I'm afraid it may be way too short compared 
to the adjacent subflooring. Wtf?

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Re: [MBZ] I'm Channeling Ansel Adams/Edward Weston

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Dan wrote:

> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6020801431.html

Err...  if so, he is failing.  The shadows are too dark.  Ansel
would never approve. :)

However, that's a good car to get!  

Manual transmission.

It's post '81 so it has the better camshaft and injection pump,
the more durable seat stuffing

It is NOT an '85.

It's too far away, and I'm not desperate enough to turn loose that
much money.  *sigh*

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[MBZ] Lumber question

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yesterday while at Lowes we bought 23/32 osb subflooring which appeared to be 
too thin compared to the subfloor in the house. When I measured our existing 
floor I get 1". There appears to be no such thing as 1". We took it back and 
got the 1 1/8 which I figure maybe I was reading it wrong by an 8th of an inch 
on the measuring tape. Got it home cut to fit and where as the trim base boards 
around the rest of the room have a gap big enough for the previous tile and 
will allow the pergo to slide up under, this subfloor fits right up with the 
trim board with no room, it is obviously is just a little thicker than what is 
in the house. So our options appear to be to either leave it as is and use 
quarter round along the baseboard to secure the edge of the pergo, or we are 
going to have to go back with the smaller and I'm afraid it may be way too 
short compared to the adjacent subflooring. Wtf?

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Re: [MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun (recap)

[MG via Mercedes]

Ah yes that was the springs.

Too bad that bar won't fit my TD. The 19 is just what I want, 
along with a front that is 4 or 5mm larger. The front you might 
could find enough people to make a run but the back I kind of doubt.


Manfred

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

They work out quite well.  This is the third group buy we’ve done in the W126 
forum at Benzworld.  The first time around people were ecstatic about the 
difference.  These are custom made for us by Heilwig, and the minimum 
production run is 15 pieces.

They’re a 19mm bar (stock is 14mm) and I’m told they really, really tighten up 
the rear of the car when it comes to cornering.

Price is around $230 shipped to anywhere in the CONUS.  There are a couple 
spares, as we typically order a few extras just in case.  I took another as I’m 
going top put one on the 300SEL.
 
You’re thinking of Lesjofers with the crappy springs.


-D



On Feb 26, 2017, at 5:32 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Let me know if they work right. Wasn't that the company that made the 
untempered junk front springs that someone put in to replace some cut springs?

Manfred

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:


Got word that my 14mm rear sway bars have arrived from Heilwig and will be 
shipping to me next week.  That will make for some nice handling on these 
barges.
I promised the 300D I would take it for the grocery run in the morning, since 
it’s feeling neglected.
Gotta go get some laundry out of the dryer….
-D

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Re: [MBZ] Problem with the web site?

[MG via Mercedes]

Then how the heck did I get here???

I've never considered myself that exclusive, reclusive maybe is 
more like it.


Manfred

Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

it is a VERY exclusive club!  You have to have an invite to get in!


MG via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 4:37 PM
Yup that's what I was going to do. I just wanted to try and find out 
if a lot of people who might be interested in the list just can't 
apply because of this problem. Or if it might be a feature to limit 
the membership. :-)


Manfred



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Re: [MBZ] Problem with the web site?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

it is a VERY exclusive club!  You have to have an invite to get in!


MG via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 4:37 PM
Yup that's what I was going to do. I just wanted to try and find out 
if a lot of people who might be interested in the list just can't 
apply because of this problem. Or if it might be a feature to limit 
the membership. :-)


Manfred



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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[MG via Mercedes]

That's where the big difference between the hand impact and the 
air or electric guns comes in. With the hand impact every time 
you hit with the hammer the bit is forced into the screw head and 
that alone will make it hold onto the screw much better.

those things were a required tool for working on the older bikes.

Manfred

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Curly sez:

‎>For not a lot more, you can get a dewalt >battery impact or an air impact 
wrench.

Yes, but... if it has started to round out, an electric impact will make quick 
work of finishing the job. There are hand impacts less than fifteen bucks. I 
just picked the first in the list.

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Re: [MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun (recap)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They work out quite well.  This is the third group buy we’ve done in the W126 
forum at Benzworld.  The first time around people were ecstatic about the 
difference.  These are custom made for us by Heilwig, and the minimum 
production run is 15 pieces.

They’re a 19mm bar (stock is 14mm) and I’m told they really, really tighten up 
the rear of the car when it comes to cornering.

Price is around $230 shipped to anywhere in the CONUS.  There are a couple 
spares, as we typically order a few extras just in case.  I took another as I’m 
going top put one on the 300SEL.
 
You’re thinking of Lesjofers with the crappy springs.

-D


> On Feb 26, 2017, at 5:32 PM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Let me know if they work right. Wasn't that the company that made the 
> untempered junk front springs that someone put in to replace some cut springs?
> 
> Manfred
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> Got word that my 14mm rear sway bars have arrived from Heilwig and will be 
>> shipping to me next week.  That will make for some nice handling on these 
>> barges.
>> I promised the 300D I would take it for the grocery run in the morning, 
>> since it’s feeling neglected.
>> Gotta go get some laundry out of the dryer….
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun (so far)

[MG via Mercedes]

That's what I was coming up with. Given the difference in the 
miles driven and the speed that is just about the 5.5%. I guess I 
should have taken the speedo for that also. Oh well too late now. 
At least I know what to look for.


Manfred

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
‎MG sez: 


‎Also put in a diff Sat before last that I got >from a junk yard out of an 84 
TD.


Might have been an '85.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/1625083-w123-axle-ratios.html

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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Curly sez:

‎>For not a lot more, you can get a dewalt >battery impact or an air impact 
wrench.

Yes, but... if it has started to round out, an electric impact will make quick 
work of finishing the job. There are hand impacts less than fifteen bucks. I 
just picked the first in the list.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun (so far)

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎MG sez: 

>‎Also put in a diff Sat before last that I got >from a junk yard out of an 84 
>TD.

Might have been an '85.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w123-e-ce-d-cd-td/1625083-w123-axle-ratios.html

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] I'm Channeling Ansel Adams/Edward Weston

[MG via Mercedes]

8 out of 10... where 10 is the worst and 1 is the best no doubt.

Manfred

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https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6020801431.html 


-D
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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

For not a lot more, you can get a dewalt battery impact or an air impact 
wrench.


Impact wrench is the way to go.

I've beat on the hand impact wrenches.  In the 60s and 70s, if you had a 
hondog motorsickle, the hand impact and a 2 lb hammer were the first 2 
tools you needed.  Hondogs and a lot of other asian junk uses very soft 
bolts.

Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 4:21 PM
I have used a hand impact, with a 6mm impact socket on a 123. I assume 
they are similar to the 126.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002NYDRG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1488147504sr=8-1pi=SL75_QL70keywords=hand+impact+driver


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Re: [MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun (recap)

[MG via Mercedes]

Let me know if they work right. Wasn't that the company that made 
the untempered junk front springs that someone put in to replace 
some cut springs?


Manfred

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:


Got word that my 14mm rear sway bars have arrived from Heilwig and will be 
shipping to me next week.  That will make for some nice handling on these 
barges.

I promised the 300D I would take it for the grocery run in the morning, since 
it’s feeling neglected.

Gotta go get some laundry out of the dryer….

-D



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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[MG via Mercedes]

Oh yeah I forgot about that one. That works good.

Manfred

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

I have used a hand impact, with a 6mm impact socket on a 123. I assume they are 
similar to the 126.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002NYDRG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1488147504sr=8-1pi=SL75_QL70keywords=hand+impact+driver


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Re: [MBZ] Problem with the web site?

[MG via Mercedes]

Yup that's what I was going to do. I just wanted to try and find 
out if a lot of people who might be interested in the list just 
can't apply because of this problem. Or if it might be a feature 
to limit the membership. :-)


Manfred

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
Here. Send him this link. 


‎http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[MG via Mercedes]

Kroil for a while then pop the screw heads a good lick or two 
with a hammer and try again to loosen them.
Rinse and repeat and if not you could also put the hex driver in 
and hit that good and hard with a hammer. sooner or later it 
should come loose.


Worse comes to worse just drill out the head just enough for it 
to pop off, take the stop off and use a vise grip to turn what's 
left of the screw out. Without the head they usually come out 
real easy.


Manfred

Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
I tried to replace the driver's door striker on my 82 SD (same symptoms and cause) but I Couldn't get the screws lose.  I had started to deform the hex socket in some of the screws so I quit before I really buggered them.  
Is there a trick to this?




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[MBZ] Floor joist repair

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Following is an article on the subject of excessive water in attics and 
crawlspaces 'bout 20 years ago; the physics hasn't changed:


EXCESSIVE MOISTURE IN ATTICS & CRAWLSPACES
By Wilton Strickland

   A combination of excessive moisture (high relative humidity in the 
affected area), inadequate ventilation and cool surfaces in attics and 
under-floor crawlspaces can cause condensation and/or fungal growth, rot, 
etc., on the undersides of roof & floor structures and lead to serious 
damages to the structures.  Generally, if wood has a moisture content of 
more than about 20%, significant damage can occur, but a moisture meter is 
not needed to be able to see that wood and insulation are soaking wet and 
dripping with condensation or badly stained and/or covered with significant 
staining, surface damage or fungal growth and to know that the wood is wet 
enough, or has been wet enough, for serious damages to occur if these 
conditions persist.  Designers, builders and homeowners should be aware of 
and understand this potential problem in order to combat it adequately. 
Home inspectors should be able to recognize and understand the problem in 
order to properly report it and recommend improvements to alleviate it.
Condensation occurs on building surfaces when the relative humidity is high, 
ventilation is poor & the surfaces are cool.  Relative humidity is expressed 
as a percentage of moisture present in air relative to the amount of 
moisture the same air can hold.  Generally, warmer air can hold more 
moisture than cooler air.  When air is cooled below its "dew" point (the 
temperature at which the air is saturated or has 100% relative humidity), 
some of the moisture condenses into visible water, such as fog, rain, snow, 
dew, etc.
   This same action causes condensation to form on surfaces of cool objects 
that cause the air in immediate contact with the object to cool below the 
dew point.  For example, condensation on the outside of cold drink glasses, 
the insides of cold car and house windows or dew on grass.  If enough air 
(ventilation) is moving across these surfaces, however, the condensation 
does not form - air in contact with the surface does not have time to be 
cooled below the dew point.
   In confined areas of buildings with inadequate or reduced ventilation, 
condensation forms when warm, moist air comes in contact with a surface cold 
enough to cool the air in immediate contact with the surface below the dew 
point - just like the cold drink glass or car windows.  This can occur even 
in heated areas with poorly insulated walls and ceilings, inside closets or 
any area with poor ventilation, high humidity and cool surfaces. 
Condensation often forms on the cold underside of roof sheathing and on 
rafters when warm, moist air rising from the living area comes in contact 
with the cold roof structure.
   It is usually not economically feasible to try to keep moisture from 
getting into the attic from the living space.  Moisture enters the living 
space from several sources:  the ground under the house, the air around us, 
cooking, laundry, gas logs, bathing, breathing, evaporation from our bodies, 
from plants, etc.  Moisture from some of these sources can be reasonably 
reduced (by reducing water entering the crawlspace from in the yard and off 
the roof, by improved vapor barriers and ventilation in crawlspaces and 
improved ventilation in bathrooms, kitchens and laundry rooms), but much of 
this moisture cannot be reasonably eliminated.  Moisture is a natural 
byproduct of human life.
   Therefore, this moisture must be allowed to escape to the outside 
without doing damage to the structure.  The most natural way for the 
moisture to escape is to rise through the ceiling into the attic.  If 
adequate ventilation is not maintained in the attic during cold weather, 
this moisture can condense on the cold underside of the roof and, in time, 
cause serious damage to the structure.   Maintaining good attic ventilation, 
therefore, is very important year-round - not just in summer.  Condensation 
does not form on the underside of the roof during hot weather because the 
roof is usually much warmer than air in the attic at that time.  Attic 
ventilation is important in summer to reduce the potential for damage to the 
shingles from overheating and to reduce the cooling load in the house, but 
it is important in winter to let moisture in the house escape to the outside 
without damaging the roof structure.  Attic vents should not be blocked or 
sealed in winter!
   If there are dark, mildew-type stains or wetness on the underside of the 
roof or on the rafters not caused by a leak, the homeowner should try to 
improve ventilation in the affected area of the attic.  This can be done by 
installing additional soffit vents & by adding ridge vent(s) or wind 
turbines on the roof.  The most efficient attic venting system takes 
advantage of natural convection - the natural tendency for warm air 

Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I have used a hand impact, with a 6mm impact socket on a 123. I assume they are 
similar to the 126.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002NYDRG/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1488147504sr=8-1pi=SL75_QL70keywords=hand+impact+driver


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Problem with the web site?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Here. Send him this link. 

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Re: [MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun (so far)

[MG via Mercedes]

I just did the right front outer wheel bearing on my TD 2 weeks 
ago. I was hearing a rumbling noise, first only on left turns and 
then after about a week started hearing it on straight line also. 
Took the cap off, popped the bearing out and sure enough saw 
metal flakes in the grease. Found out why when I got it cleaned 
off. Made in Mexico. I remembered then about when I put the 
bearing kits on there about 10k miles ago I was thinking that 
wasn't very good. The other side is still OK for now but I did 
order one for there to be done when needed.


Also put in a diff Sat before last that I got from a junk yard 
out of an 84 TD. Don't know if they had a different ration or if 
the previous owner had put one in there from some other car but 
my TD now goes 5mph faster on the GPS then indicated by the 
speedo at 65. Before they had been in agreement. No tags on the 
either diff.


Does anyone know if the report of the original equipment from the 
dealer would include what the ratio was?


I need to find a speedo that works right with this diff because I 
did notice that the engine is a bit quieter when at high speed 
though I must say that it did loose just a little bit on the 
acceleration from a stop.


I will find out if I get any better mileage. The speed and 
distance traveled between the GPS and the speedo say about 5.5% 
added to the odometer should give the right miles traveledso I'll 
see what happens.


Manfred

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

OMG.  I have never had an O2 sensor be so stubborn.

After nearly 45 minutes of everything from pounding on the O2 sensor socket 
with a three pound hammer to a ViceGrips and pipe wrench with a 3 foot piece of 
pipe on it, the danged thing finally started to turn.  From there it was a 
ViceGrips and lots of Kroil, turning every 1/8 turn or so that I could get, 
backing off, soaking with Kroil, then turning again.

Little bugger finally came out.

I will be paying for this tomorrow, I’m sure.

So while I grab some lunch and give my upper body a break, I’ll let things air 
out and be ready for the new O2 sensor.

Some other potentially good news:

Owner said the right front tire (nearly new Michelins) had a bad belt.  You 
definitely got the “rump-rump-rump” thing from the right front, but I was 
wondering if it could possibly be a bad wheel bearing.  I figured not, since 
whenever I’ve heard a bad wheel bearing it’s always been a grinding sound.

While the front end was off the ground I spun the front right wheel.  I could 
hear the “rump-rump-rump” sound.

So if I’m living right it’s got a bad wheel bearing.  Maybe there’s just one 
roller that’s bad or has a bad/flat spot on it?  Let’s hope so.

-D



On Feb 25, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

So back under the car I go to soak the O2 sensor with some Kroil before I try 
to remove it…

More interesting stuff:

PO had said that there was a switch on the transmission his indie disconnected 
that controlled shifts based on temperature.  That is, it delayed shifts until 
the car got up to operating temperature, or so he recalled being told.  Since I 
don’t have a lot of experience with W126 gassers (my last one was in the late 
90s with the Deathmobile) I took his word for it and figured I would find out.

So as I’m looking around the transmission area after finishing with the Kroil, 
I see a wire with one of the O ring seal connectors on it, like on a brake pad 
wear sensor.

Hmm.

I look around, and see a black block bolted to the flywheel housing that a 
couple of hard lines are going to from the transmission. There’s a matching 
socket on it, for sure, that fits this mystery connector.

I got the number off of the part and ran it through the online EPC.  Nothing.  
???

So I google the number, and lo and behold, it’s a kickdown solenoid. I do some 
digging in another online parts database and sure enough, that’s it.  But - 
it’s NLA.  Poop.  So I’m guessing this car won’t have kickdown capabilities.  
At least not for now.  I’m not going to reconnect it just yet, as I don’t want 
to complicate things.

Picture of the kickdown solenoid: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/u568f15xtj8k7a8/IMG_1380.jpg?dl=0

Picture of the cleaned off but leaking PS cooler: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lzv02lvblda41co/IMG_1381.jpg?dl=0

Back out to the garage to see if the Kroil has worked its magic on the O2 
sensor….

-D




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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Get replacements on hand and drill the old ones out.

They’re stupidly soft for some weird reason.  My driver’s door strike can loose 
without effort, but in the interim I was going to swap the rear onto the 
driver’s door until the replacement came.  The rear door bolts all tried to 
round off, so I left them alone.

At least that would be my approach.  They would be easy to drill out and simple 
to grab ahold of once the strike is removed.

-D

> On Feb 26, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I tried to replace the driver's door striker on my 82 SD (same symptoms and 
> cause) but I Couldn't get the screws lose.  I had started to deform the hex 
> socket in some of the screws so I quit before I really buggered them.  
> Is there a trick to this?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun (Sunday)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got the Leatherique cleaned up and done.  Leather recovered well, the only 
issue being that Leatherique darkens any splits or cracks.  Not a big deal, 
just an appearance thing.  I’ve got a new armrest cover coming from my 
upholstery guy in CA - $20 shipped.

Got the trunk badge cleaned up and installed, including painting the accent 
line below the characters.  Painted the radiator badge, too.  Found an 
auxiliary input cable for the Kenwood stereo that’s in it on Amazon for $9, so 
that’s on the way.  Got my dealer parts order all ready to text in tomorrow 
morning.  Thinking about taking Wednesday off so I can get everything done at 
once - caliper, wheel bearing and flex disc among other things.

Danged oak trees are doing their spring thing, meaning that any dark colored 
car has a near permanent yellow dusting on it.  The youngest boy had to go up 
to Williston Saturday and Sunday to do his SCUBA and Nitrox qualifications in 
the springs, so I had him drive my car (which loved every minute of that open 
highway cruising.)  I gave it a quick wash and immediately put the car cover on 
it. Between the cover and being parked in a closed garage at work it should 
stay pretty clean.

Cleaning up before some friends come over for dinner.

-D


> On Feb 26, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Took the 300D out for the early morning grocery run as promised.  It was 
> pleased to get out and stretch its legs.
> 
> I don’t really have a lot to do with the 300SEL until I start getting some 
> parts.  Since it’s a nice sunny Florida day, I slathered the front seats with 
> some Leatherique and will let it bake.
> 
> I might drain and refill the power steering system since I have everything I 
> need for that.  I’ve cleaned the PS cooler that runs in front of the radiator 
> so I can watch it to see if it does have a leak.  Quite honestly I don’t 
> think it does - the junction where the hoses connect to it look like they’ve 
> been seeping for a long time, and I’m wondering if it’s possible that the 
> fluid has just been creeping down the lines.  The connection is really buried 
> on the left front inner fender and the clamp screws are turned towards the 
> top, so I’ll see if I can get in there and tighten them up, maybe.
> 
> After the Leatherique has done its thing I might do some more interior 
> cleaning.  The dash is in great condition, but the driver and passenger doors 
> look sort of yellowed. I’m not sure if this is just aging or maybe the car 
> had a smoker in the past.  If it did there’s not evidence of it that I can 
> find.
> 
> Washed the SL500 as it needed it.  Gotta run the sweeper in the interior and 
> it will be good for a couple of weeks.
> 
> Going to do an inventory of future work so I can plan accordingly.
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] Problem with the web site?

[MG via Mercedes]

Has anyone tried going to the main page on the Okiebenz site
http://okiebenz.com/

A friend to whom I recommended that he join the group since he 
has an 82 or so 300CD can't get anywhere off that page. Nothing 
works so he can't apply to join the list. I tried the same and 
had the same problem. Nothing on the main page will go anywhere.


I know I can send him a link but I figured if we are both having 
that problem then how many others who might want to join are 
having that problem.


Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Looks like a good job.  By the way, the sill plate must be pressure treated
according to most codes.

Water Intrusion: It may be hard to locate the water intrusion.  Typical
leaks are caused by poor flashing and sealing at doors and windows (it only
takes a small gap).  But water can travel amazing distances horizontally
before it's visible down below so the hose method requires patience.  If you
see look inside the attic with a good light, any chronic roof leaks should
be immediately visible on the inside as discolored (gray/black) sheathing.
I have read that water will accumulate behind the brick siding (it's porous)
unless there are proper drainage provisions (e.g. weep holes much lower than
any wood).  

By the way, if the local building inspector is not overworked (or an a-hole)
you can often get instant local-code advice by phone.  

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb
C.
> Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 10:13 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Subject: [MBZ] Floor joist repair
> 
> Opened up the floor today and cut out the floor joists, removed the
> completely rotted header board, replaced the header and installed new
floor
> joists. Tomorrow will close the floor back up and finish prepping for
> flooring. Looks like we are going with some sort of laminate.  Here are
some
> photos. This is my first time doing such work. Pretty straight forward and
> not too difficult though a little back breaking. I got to figure out where
> the water intrusion is coming from. I was thinking it was coming in from
> around the front window but the severe damage extends back a good 8-10
feet
> along the perpendicular wall so I am not sure that is the source. What I
> found interesting is the ends of the joists and the header board were
> complete rotted but the sill plate mounted to the stem wall that the
joists
> ride on is completely fine. Maybe they used pressure treated wood for that
> but not the joists. I used high kwality pressure treated wood from Lowes
> rated for severe use or whatever they call it.



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Re: [MBZ] W126 Door Latch

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I tried to replace the driver's door striker on my 82 SD (same symptoms and 
cause) but I Couldn't get the screws lose.  I had started to deform the hex 
socket in some of the screws so I quit before I really buggered them.  
Is there a trick to this?



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Re: [MBZ] I'm Channeling Ansel Adams/Edward Weston

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Figures.  Real B wet photography is no longer cheap.  By the looks of the 
photos, the owner is.

> -Original Message-
> From: OK Don via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 4:03 PM
> 
> He's saving bits - no chrom channel, very compressed, few pixels.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Real kiln drying also kills the parasites. Like powder post beetles.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter
> Frederick via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 12:01 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Peter Frederick 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair
> 
> Pressure treated wood is treated wet, else the treatment will not
penetrate.
> Be careful when buying construction lumber, it is NOT all kiln dried --
quite
> a bit of it is simply flash heated to set the resin in the coniferious
stuff
> so it won't bleed, it's essentially the same moisture content as when cut.
> It will shrink quite a bit, and warp while doing so.
> 
> Check for the kiln dry marks, if it's not fully marked, it's not dry.
> 
> It will also not be dry if stored in the weather, which most "big box"
> stores do -- it sits uncovered both at the store before being brought
inside
> to sell, and during shipment.  One more reason to support your local
quality
> lumber yard, which usually has the same stuff but properly stored, dry,
and
> usually a few cents per piece cheaper...
> 
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] I'm Channeling Ansel Adams/Edward Weston

[OK Don via Mercedes]

He's saving bits - no chrom channel, very compressed, few pixels.

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The Okie Chrome on the driver side doors shows up so much better on the
> old b/w digital pics
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 2/26/17 3:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6020801431.html <
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6020801431.html>
>>
>> -D
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> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] I'm Channeling Ansel Adams/Edward Weston

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The Okie Chrome on the driver side doors shows up so much better on the 
old b/w digital pics


--FT


On 2/26/17 3:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6020801431.html 


-D
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“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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[MBZ] I'm Channeling Ansel Adams/Edward Weston

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/6020801431.html 


-D
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Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Have ya ruled out condensation in place during cooling season (summer)? 
I've seen floor structures destroyed by such.  How's the crawlspace 
ventilation?


Wilton

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Craig" 
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair



On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 22:03:43 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:


I wonder if it's possible water is coming in from the roof line from
the gutters somehow. I would think there would be some evidence of that
from the inside of the house such as staining walls or something


It depends on how it's getting in and were it might be running down.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It is.  The treating companies ship it wet.  The wetter it is, the 
fresher it is.  A big box moves the inventory fast, so it is always 
dripping wet.  It goes squirrelly as it dries.  Y ou need to allow for 
shrink as it dries.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 10:49 AM
It's funny you say that. This pressure treated "high end" lumber all 
seemed damp to me, all of it on the shelf. The cheap wood seemed dry


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Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

ayup!


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 10:02 AM
The thing I've found with Lowes or Home Depot wood is its always heavy 
with water, like its been stored in a lake or something.
Our local lumberyard stores framing lumber outside and its always 
drier than the stuff from Lowes or HD. Usually priced the same or 
slightly cheaper.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] project for Jaime

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

" As always, the Raspberry Pi 3 is also accessible via WiFi, 
providing further connectivity and functionality. A network-connected 
tablet acts as a media centre screen."


It would be easy enough to add a BT dongle to the Raspi, although the 3 
might have that native?  I haven't looked at those.  I have a 1 and a 2 
that I fooled with a bit, they are kinda fun but the linux commands are 
all gibberish to me.


--R


On 2/25/17 11:58 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

That's pretty neat, but a blue tooth interface would be better, so one could 
sync a smart phone.


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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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[MBZ] stupid money for a 560SL

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6019188367.html


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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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[MBZ] CL good deal of the day

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6017748174.html


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“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] Polei drives to ND

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Speaking of 126s - yesterday I went to a little fish shack over on James 
Island back in a little enclave of black folks who have lived there 
forever, the shop was closed but parked behind was an SEL of some sort 
that looked pretty dead.  I tried to pop the hood but the release tabs 
were not there so couldn't get it up.  I might go back over there and 
ask the guy what the story is, maybe get it for scrap value and pick it 
apart.  Can sell Poos some bits.


--R


On 2/25/17 9:52 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
the 126 is a truly great car.  I will argue the best highway car ever 
made.  You just did what it is made for.


You will have a very  different trip trying to replicate the same trip 
in a cheep.


The one MT trooper I met was VERY nice.  Gave me a $5 ticket for 20 
over (75 in 55) and told me the ticket is "unreported."  In the 55 
days, they knew how to do things RIGHT in MT.  As a bonus, she was 
good lookin too!


I thought nothing of driving my SDL on a 3-4000 mile week.  Most weeks 
were around 2500 though.



clay via Mercedes 
February 25, 2017 at 4:44 PM
#1 boy's jeep kacked big when he dove to SEA. I had to transport him 
back to Wiiliston or he gets fired. Only drivable option was Polei. 
18 hours in snow and dark, with one MT trooper taking an interest for 
a few miles.


She performed admirably. I am on the train to SEA to recover the jeep 
from dealer service and will be heading right back out to ND.


About 3500 miles in one week on a 30 year old car. Will need an oil 
change for certain

Clay

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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Floor update

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Ditra is this stuff.  Kerdi is the waterproofing stuff for showers and 
such.  Their stuff makes a great system for tiling.


https://www.amazon.com/Schluter-Systems-Ditra54-Underlayment-54sqft/dp/B003VKYKWA/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8=1488129224=8-7=schluter+kerdi+membrane


On 2/25/17 4:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Kerdi?


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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Pressure treated wood is treated wet, else the treatment will not penetrate.  
Be careful when buying construction lumber, it is NOT all kiln dried -- quite a 
bit of it is simply flash heated to set the resin in the coniferious stuff so 
it won't bleed, it's essentially the same moisture content as when cut.  It 
will shrink quite a bit, and warp while doing so.

Check for the kiln dry marks, if it's not fully marked, it's not dry.

It will also not be dry if stored in the weather, which most "big box" stores 
do -- it sits uncovered both at the store before being brought inside to sell, 
and during shipment.  One more reason to support your local quality lumber 
yard, which usually has the same stuff but properly stored, dry, and usually a 
few cents per piece cheaper...

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It's funny you say that. This pressure treated "high end" lumber all seemed 
damp to me, all of it on the shelf. The cheap wood seemed dry

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 26, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The thing I've found with Lowes or Home Depot wood is its always heavy with 
> water, like its been stored in a lake or something.
> Our local lumberyard stores framing lumber outside and its always drier than 
> the stuff from Lowes or HD. Usually priced the same or slightly cheaper.
> -Curt
> 
> 
>  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 11:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair
> 
> Pressure treated lumber from lowes or home despot is not much better 
> than plain lumber.  Some brands have changed chemicals and designation, 
> but the vintage 2000 chemical was .20 lowes, .40 lumberyard, and .60 for 
> wood foundations. (or stuff you really wanted to last.  I have picked up 
> or ordered .60 for several projects.  Like replacing the rotted bottom 
> plate and stud bottoms for my garage.  Some big box "treated " lumber 
> was as low as .12.  That meant the outer 1/4" or so was treated and the 
> rest was raw.
> 
>   Yellawood uses a different chemical and has different numbers.  I 
> think the .13 corresponds to the .40 for the older chemical.  Buyer 
> beware.  lowes may have better stuff now.
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> February 25, 2017 at 9:13 PM
>> Opened up the floor today and cut out the floor joists, removed the 
>> completely rotted header board, replaced the header and installed new 
>> floor joists. Tomorrow will close the floor back up and finish 
>> prepping for flooring. Looks like we are going with some sort of 
>> laminate. Here are some photos. This is my first time doing such work. 
>> Pretty straight forward and not too difficult though a little back 
>> breaking. I got to figure out where the water intrusion is coming 
>> from. I was thinking it was coming in from around the front window but 
>> the severe damage extends back a good 8-10 feet along the 
>> perpendicular wall so I am not sure that is the source. What I found 
>> interesting is the ends of the joists and the header board were 
>> complete rotted but the sill plate mounted to the stem wall that the 
>> joists ride on is completely fine. Maybe they used pressure treated 
>> wood for that but not the joists. I used high kwality pressure treated 
>> wood from Lowes rated for severe use or whatever they call it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It is in the kitchen area but any plumbing is on the other side of the room, I 
check that area under the house and no leaks or wood rot in that area.

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> On Feb 26, 2017, at 10:21 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb,
> Seems the elusive water leak has not been located. Is it possible there is
> a plumbing fitting somewhere that is leaking as it enters the floor. I seem
> to recall this is in the kitchen area.
> 
> A small fitting leak that dripped could migrate along a beam or joist
> perhaps? Just thinking, but could it be an internal leak rather than an
> external one?
> 
> On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The thing I've found with Lowes or Home Depot wood is its always heavy
>> with water, like its been stored in a lake or something.
>> Our local lumberyard stores framing lumber outside and its always drier
>> than the stuff from Lowes or HD. Usually priced the same or slightly
>> cheaper.
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>>  From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 11:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair
>> 
>> Pressure treated lumber from lowes or home despot is not much better
>> than plain lumber.  Some brands have changed chemicals and designation,
>> but the vintage 2000 chemical was .20 lowes, .40 lumberyard, and .60 for
>> wood foundations. (or stuff you really wanted to last.  I have picked up
>> or ordered .60 for several projects.  Like replacing the rotted bottom
>> plate and stud bottoms for my garage.  Some big box "treated " lumber
>> was as low as .12.  That meant the outer 1/4" or so was treated and the
>> rest was raw.
>> 
>>  Yellawood uses a different chemical and has different numbers.  I
>> think the .13 corresponds to the .40 for the older chemical.  Buyer
>> beware.  lowes may have better stuff now.
>> 
>>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> February 25, 2017 at 9:13 PM
>>> Opened up the floor today and cut out the floor joists, removed the
>>> completely rotted header board, replaced the header and installed new
>>> floor joists. Tomorrow will close the floor back up and finish
>>> prepping for flooring. Looks like we are going with some sort of
>>> laminate. Here are some photos. This is my first time doing such work.
>>> Pretty straight forward and not too difficult though a little back
>>> breaking. I got to figure out where the water intrusion is coming
>>> from. I was thinking it was coming in from around the front window but
>>> the severe damage extends back a good 8-10 feet along the
>>> perpendicular wall so I am not sure that is the source. What I found
>>> interesting is the ends of the joists and the header board were
>>> complete rotted but the sill plate mounted to the stem wall that the
>>> joists ride on is completely fine. Maybe they used pressure treated
>>> wood for that but not the joists. I used high kwality pressure treated
>>> wood from Lowes rated for severe use or whatever they call it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Kaleb,
Seems the elusive water leak has not been located. Is it possible there is
a plumbing fitting somewhere that is leaking as it enters the floor. I seem
to recall this is in the kitchen area.

A small fitting leak that dripped could migrate along a beam or joist
perhaps? Just thinking, but could it be an internal leak rather than an
external one?

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> The thing I've found with Lowes or Home Depot wood is its always heavy
> with water, like its been stored in a lake or something.
> Our local lumberyard stores framing lumber outside and its always drier
> than the stuff from Lowes or HD. Usually priced the same or slightly
> cheaper.
> -Curt
>
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>   From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair
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> Pressure treated lumber from lowes or home despot is not much better
> than plain lumber.  Some brands have changed chemicals and designation,
> but the vintage 2000 chemical was .20 lowes, .40 lumberyard, and .60 for
> wood foundations. (or stuff you really wanted to last.  I have picked up
> or ordered .60 for several projects.  Like replacing the rotted bottom
> plate and stud bottoms for my garage.  Some big box "treated " lumber
> was as low as .12.  That meant the outer 1/4" or so was treated and the
> rest was raw.
>
>   Yellawood uses a different chemical and has different numbers.  I
> think the .13 corresponds to the .40 for the older chemical.  Buyer
> beware.  lowes may have better stuff now.
>
> > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> > February 25, 2017 at 9:13 PM
> > Opened up the floor today and cut out the floor joists, removed the
> > completely rotted header board, replaced the header and installed new
> > floor joists. Tomorrow will close the floor back up and finish
> > prepping for flooring. Looks like we are going with some sort of
> > laminate. Here are some photos. This is my first time doing such work.
> > Pretty straight forward and not too difficult though a little back
> > breaking. I got to figure out where the water intrusion is coming
> > from. I was thinking it was coming in from around the front window but
> > the severe damage extends back a good 8-10 feet along the
> > perpendicular wall so I am not sure that is the source. What I found
> > interesting is the ends of the joists and the header board were
> > complete rotted but the sill plate mounted to the stem wall that the
> > joists ride on is completely fine. Maybe they used pressure treated
> > wood for that but not the joists. I used high kwality pressure treated
> > wood from Lowes rated for severe use or whatever they call it.
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Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The thing I've found with Lowes or Home Depot wood is its always heavy with 
water, like its been stored in a lake or something.
Our local lumberyard stores framing lumber outside and its always drier than 
the stuff from Lowes or HD. Usually priced the same or slightly cheaper.
-Curt


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Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 11:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Floor joist repair
   
Pressure treated lumber from lowes or home despot is not much better 
than plain lumber.  Some brands have changed chemicals and designation, 
but the vintage 2000 chemical was .20 lowes, .40 lumberyard, and .60 for 
wood foundations. (or stuff you really wanted to last.  I have picked up 
or ordered .60 for several projects.  Like replacing the rotted bottom 
plate and stud bottoms for my garage.  Some big box "treated " lumber 
was as low as .12.  That meant the outer 1/4" or so was treated and the 
rest was raw.

  Yellawood uses a different chemical and has different numbers.  I 
think the .13 corresponds to the .40 for the older chemical.  Buyer 
beware.  lowes may have better stuff now.

> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> February 25, 2017 at 9:13 PM
> Opened up the floor today and cut out the floor joists, removed the 
> completely rotted header board, replaced the header and installed new 
> floor joists. Tomorrow will close the floor back up and finish 
> prepping for flooring. Looks like we are going with some sort of 
> laminate. Here are some photos. This is my first time doing such work. 
> Pretty straight forward and not too difficult though a little back 
> breaking. I got to figure out where the water intrusion is coming 
> from. I was thinking it was coming in from around the front window but 
> the severe damage extends back a good 8-10 feet along the 
> perpendicular wall so I am not sure that is the source. What I found 
> interesting is the ends of the joists and the header board were 
> complete rotted but the sill plate mounted to the stem wall that the 
> joists ride on is completely fine. Maybe they used pressure treated 
> wood for that but not the joists. I used high kwality pressure treated 
> wood from Lowes rated for severe use or whatever they call it.
>
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[MBZ] Photographer of the day

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Re: [MBZ] Wild Steering Wheels

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Interesting, thanks for sharing.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun (Sunday)

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I keep a one meter length of the low pressure stuff on the shelf, as it’s 
almost always weeping in older cars.  The cooler is on the return (low 
pressure) side, so if the hoses are nasty I’ll replace them.  The high pressure 
hoses look pretty good.

-D


> On Feb 26, 2017, at 9:23 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If the PS low pressure hose is original, replace it.That might take care 
> of your leak.  Its a good and cheap starting point.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> February 26, 2017 at 8:01 AM
>> Took the 300D out for the early morning grocery run as promised. It was 
>> pleased to get out and stretch its legs.
>> 
>> I don’t really have a lot to do with the 300SEL until I start getting some 
>> parts. Since it’s a nice sunny Florida day, I slathered the front seats with 
>> some Leatherique and will let it bake.
>> 
>> I might drain and refill the power steering system since I have everything I 
>> need for that. I’ve cleaned the PS cooler that runs in front of the radiator 
>> so I can watch it to see if it does have a leak. Quite honestly I don’t 
>> think it does - the junction where the hoses connect to it look like they’ve 
>> been seeping for a long time, and I’m wondering if it’s possible that the 
>> fluid has just been creeping down the lines. The connection is really buried 
>> on the left front inner fender and the clamp screws are turned towards the 
>> top, so I’ll see if I can get in there and tighten them up, maybe.
>> 
>> After the Leatherique has done its thing I might do some more interior 
>> cleaning. The dash is in great condition, but the driver and passenger doors 
>> look sort of yellowed. I’m not sure if this is just aging or maybe the car 
>> had a smoker in the past. If it did there’s not evidence of it that I can 
>> find.
>> 
>> Washed the SL500 as it needed it. Gotta run the sweeper in the interior and 
>> it will be good for a couple of weeks.
>> 
>> Going to do an inventory of future work so I can plan accordingly.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun (Sunday)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

If the PS low pressure hose is original, replace it.That might take 
care of your leak.  Its a good and cheap starting point.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
February 26, 2017 at 8:01 AM
Took the 300D out for the early morning grocery run as promised. It 
was pleased to get out and stretch its legs.


I don’t really have a lot to do with the 300SEL until I start getting 
some parts. Since it’s a nice sunny Florida day, I slathered the front 
seats with some Leatherique and will let it bake.


I might drain and refill the power steering system since I have 
everything I need for that. I’ve cleaned the PS cooler that runs in 
front of the radiator so I can watch it to see if it does have a leak. 
Quite honestly I don’t think it does - the junction where the hoses 
connect to it look like they’ve been seeping for a long time, and I’m 
wondering if it’s possible that the fluid has just been creeping down 
the lines. The connection is really buried on the left front inner 
fender and the clamp screws are turned towards the top, so I’ll see if 
I can get in there and tighten them up, maybe.


After the Leatherique has done its thing I might do some more interior 
cleaning. The dash is in great condition, but the driver and passenger 
doors look sort of yellowed. I’m not sure if this is just aging or 
maybe the car had a smoker in the past. If it did there’s not evidence 
of it that I can find.


Washed the SL500 as it needed it. Gotta run the sweeper in the 
interior and it will be good for a couple of weeks.


Going to do an inventory of future work so I can plan accordingly.

-D
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[MBZ] Today's 300SEL Fun (Sunday)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Took the 300D out for the early morning grocery run as promised.  It was 
pleased to get out and stretch its legs.

I don’t really have a lot to do with the 300SEL until I start getting some 
parts.  Since it’s a nice sunny Florida day, I slathered the front seats with 
some Leatherique and will let it bake.

I might drain and refill the power steering system since I have everything I 
need for that.  I’ve cleaned the PS cooler that runs in front of the radiator 
so I can watch it to see if it does have a leak.  Quite honestly I don’t think 
it does - the junction where the hoses connect to it look like they’ve been 
seeping for a long time, and I’m wondering if it’s possible that the fluid has 
just been creeping down the lines.  The connection is really buried on the left 
front inner fender and the clamp screws are turned towards the top, so I’ll see 
if I can get in there and tighten them up, maybe.

After the Leatherique has done its thing I might do some more interior 
cleaning.  The dash is in great condition, but the driver and passenger doors 
look sort of yellowed. I’m not sure if this is just aging or maybe the car had 
a smoker in the past.  If it did there’s not evidence of it that I can find.

Washed the SL500 as it needed it.  Gotta run the sweeper in the interior and it 
will be good for a couple of weeks.

Going to do an inventory of future work so I can plan accordingly.

-D
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[MBZ] Wild Steering Wheels

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