Re: [MBZ] OT replace Chromebook OS with Linux?

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Max wrote:


> Is 16 GB SSD big enough to load and run Linux and some freeware
> editor and browser?

Absolutely!

A complete basic install of Debian and a bunch of my gotta-have
software (emacs, ssh, pdf viewers) PLUS Draftsight CAD is less
than 5G.  I did NOT install KDE or GNOME desktop - just XFCE.

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[MBZ] How can it run if t needs a fuel distributor?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1989 Mercedes 300 CE
https://topeka.craigslist.org/cto/d/1989-mercedes-300-ce/6266022182.html

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Re: [MBZ] 603 stalls when letting of pedal

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Mechanical idle is set too low, and probably the signal from the crankshaft 
position sensor is weak (usually the connection behind the engine is corroded, 
but the sensor can go bad.

Mechanical idle speed adjustment is in the manual.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] 603 stalls when letting of pedal

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Hmm, maybe. 

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> On Aug 17, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is there a procedure for setting base idle (idle without any help from the 
> idle speed controller)?
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 603 stalls when letting of pedal

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Is there a procedure for setting base idle (idle without any help from the idle 
speed controller)?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Here's my parts list so far:
Fender, Green Black Metallic U189 $200 plus a four hour round trip drive.
Headlamp, left, halogen $40 plus shipping
Condenser, $45 and it's only 25 miles away
Radiator, Hella/Behr, $150 small or $175 large from RockAuto. 
Fog lamp, Hella, $50 RockAuto.

I've been seeing MLs for $1200-2500, but they all look like crap compared to 
the unwrecked part of this 350, and most of them are 1998s and 1999s.
The only $2500 350 I've seen up here was a bit of a rust bucket.

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Re: [MBZ] nice car, but Paint-Huffer price

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It has "two many things to list..."  Those two are 1) outrageous price, and
2) 114,000 miles.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
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> https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/d/1985-super-clean-
> mercedes-500/6267941404.html
>
> Don Snook
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[MBZ] 603 stalls when letting of pedal

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I talked about this issue before with the SDL and thought I fixed it when I set 
the timing but it's not fixed. If you give it throttle and let off quickly, 
such as if driving slowing thru a parking lot and accelerating then have to let 
off pedal quickly, it will die, or if at a stop sign and give it gas to move 
forward and  and let off it will do it. Sometimes it will not die not you see 
the rpm drop way too low before idle takes over and it idles at correct speed. 
It's almost like there is a delay in the idle control taking over.  Anybody got 
any ideas?

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Diesel Wagon

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Looks like my groundhog feasted on the driver's seat.  Good riddance to him.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Correct on the hood, upgrade / facelift changed the hood and lights in '94
> I think.
>
> The rear body was significantly strengthened around '90 I believe.
>
> Ideally I'll find a silver wagon, white is a close second.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On August 17, 2017 6:26:18 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On August 17, 2017 at 6:04 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes
> > wrote:
> >> I'd love to swap the motor over, but using Wilton's sedans engine is
> >a better plan (much younger) and then I could sell The White Whale
> >complete.
> >
> >And keep driving the whale while you assemble the new wagon...
> >
> >Besides, I don't think a 87 hood fits a 95...but if that white one I
> >linked is rust free and you can get a hood/grille/etc it might be the
> >way to go. A white 1995 is what you really want, isn't it?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone need to sell an OM617.910?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

"So Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky,
Pennsylvania, New York ... don't be shy. Shout out if ya got one."

That's odd - he forgot to include Winnipeg in his list.  Randy - here's
your chance to cash in your chips.  "I'm conveniently located a few miles
WNW of Erie, PA"

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2867866-new-
> benzworld-looking-om617-910-a.html
>
> Rich?  Waste of a wagon / SLS engine, maybe you can talk him into adding
> SLS to his sedan?
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Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Looks like around $15 is the bottom price including disposal of the old tires. 
Other places with better locations charge $20 plus $3 disposal.
Gerry
~~~
> My local Discount Tire charges $16 a wheel for mounting, balancing, and old 
> tire disposal. Doesn't matter if you bought them there or not.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT replace Chromebook OS with Linux?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Puppy will run in well under 1GB which is why suggested it. Forgot to mention 
that before...

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  On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:51 PM, Meade Dillon via 
Mercedes wrote:   I guess my primary question is about 
the size of the SSD at just 16GB.  Is
that enough, or would I need a larger drive to run either Puppy or Lubuntu?

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT replace Chromebook OS with Linux?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks for the idea Curt, a web search quickly revealed several versions that 
either run alongside the Chrome OS or replace it, on both the model I was 
looking at and some older models.
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT replace Chromebook OS with Linux?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I guess my primary question is about the size of the SSD at just 16GB.  Is
that enough, or would I need a larger drive to run either Puppy or Lubuntu?

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT replace Chromebook OS with Linux?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The question will be if you can get a linux version that will run on the 
processor and can actually be installed but I'd guess the answer is yes. Google 
it, somebody must have tried.
I'd say something like Puppy or Lubuntu, one of the lightweights. I have 
Lubuntu on my 2006 Macbook Pro and although it takes a long time to boot (11 
year old hardware) it runs okay. I want to try Puppy but its been having a hard 
time with the video hardware and I haven't really had time to mess with it. 
Your advantage is that the Chromebook should boot off USB while my Macbook 
won't (32bit EFI with a 64bit processor, bad system.)
-Curt

On Thursday, August 17, 2017, 4:28:42 PM PDT, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Daughter needs to get a cheap laptop for grade school, teachers recommend a 
Chromebook for about $100.

I'm not too keen about that due to privacy (assimilating daughter unit into The 
Borg / Google mess with the Google chrome OS, Chrome browser, Gmail, Google 
docs, etc.).

Chromebook comes with 2 or 4 GB ram, 16 GB SSD.

Is 16 GB SSD big enough to load and run Linux and some freeware editor and 
browser?  She's going to need to write reports, go to teacher website for 
assignments, web research, web email.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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[MBZ] OT replace Chromebook OS with Linux?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Daughter needs to get a cheap laptop for grade school, teachers recommend a 
Chromebook for about $100.

I'm not too keen about that due to privacy (assimilating daughter unit into The 
Borg / Google mess with the Google chrome OS, Chrome browser, Gmail, Google 
docs, etc.).

Chromebook comes with 2 or 4 GB ram, 16 GB SSD.

Is 16 GB SSD big enough to load and run Linux and some freeware editor and 
browser?  She's going to need to write reports, go to teacher website for 
assignments, web research, web email.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT - LED Lamps For Sale

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Trailer light bulbs!
Yeah, I'll take them.

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[MBZ] OT - LED Lamps For Sale

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have nine (9) LED 1157 brake light equivalent bulbs/lamps, whatever you want 
to call them.  They were in a car I bought earlier this year (300SEL?) and I 
immediately removed them as they messed with the bulb out circuitry as they’re 
known to do.

Someone PayPal gift me $10 and I’ll dump them in a box and mail them to you.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Diesel Wagon

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Correct on the hood, upgrade / facelift changed the hood and lights in '94 I 
think.

The rear body was significantly strengthened around '90 I believe.

Ideally I'll find a silver wagon, white is a close second.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 17, 2017 6:26:18 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>
>> On August 17, 2017 at 6:04 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> I'd love to swap the motor over, but using Wilton's sedans engine is
>a better plan (much younger) and then I could sell The White Whale
>complete.
>
>And keep driving the whale while you assemble the new wagon...
>
>Besides, I don't think a 87 hood fits a 95...but if that white one I
>linked is rust free and you can get a hood/grille/etc it might be the
>way to go. A white 1995 is what you really want, isn't it?
>
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Diesel Wagon

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 17, 2017 at 6:04 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> I'd love to swap the motor over, but using Wilton's sedans engine is a better 
> plan (much younger) and then I could sell The White Whale complete.

And keep driving the whale while you assemble the new wagon...

Besides, I don't think a 87 hood fits a 95...but if that white one I linked is 
rust free and you can get a hood/grille/etc it might be the way to go. A white 
1995 is what you really want, isn't it?

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Diesel Wagon

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Hood, doors are ok, interior ok. Too much rust in the rocker panels, rear 
fenders, back windows, rear hatch.

I'd love to swap the motor over, but using Wilton's sedans engine is a better 
plan (much younger) and then I could sell The White Whale complete.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 17, 2017 5:33:27 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>
>> On August 17, 2017 at 2:50 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>
>> I'm looking for a 90's gasser wagon
>
>Are you keeping the White Whale, or can it donate some sheet metal?
>What parts are different on the 94-95 from the 1987?
>
>https://www.copart.com/lot/36381107
>
>How about a 1988?
>https://www.copart.com/lot/36296847
>
>95, needs right doors and professional (or at least Dmitri level) help:
>https://www.copart.com/lot/34774867
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Re: [MBZ] Estate 79 CD

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Dan, I fixed your comment for you.
-Curt

On Thursday, August 17, 2017, 1:15:12 PM PDT, Dan--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:

When the servo does the major puke, it will be leaking like a sieve.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

My parents had a Jeep Cherokee that was worthless in any slippery situation 
outside of 4wd. The tires lasted something crazy like 90,000 miles. Dad said 
"I'm going to replace them with the same tires, they wear so good." I never 
understood that.When we went moose hunting last year he wanted to go in my 
pickup with the General Grabber AT2s...
-Curt

On Thursday, August 17, 2017, 12:18:08 PM PDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:

On 17/08/2017 2:06 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
> Isn't the issue with these million-mile tires that they are a really 
> hard compound and not too good in the wet?
>
> --R
>
And even worse in snow or on ice.
Years back I had a set of Michelin tires that would not wear out - But 
they got to where I could get stuck on a flat parking lot if it was 
slippery.
I was at a local auto parts store and could not move forward or backward 
as the lot was a bit uneven from it being warm and then turning cold. 
Small bumps in the ice prevented me from moving as the tires just spun.
I finally replaced them for that reason.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

<< M163 is body on frame, right?>>

W163, yup.

Greg

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> On August 17, 2017 at 5:37 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Let me out is this way, I ended up selling a non wrecked, brand new complete 
> ac system, brand new Michelin tires, not wrecked, no paint issues, no rust 
> for $1700 a while back. It would have to be about $500 unless you already had 
> all the parts laying around. 

OK. I threw a $675 bid ($945 with fees) on it before I came home, I'll just sit 
and watch instead of re-bidding. 
M163 is body on frame, right? 
For the price of a radiator, headlight and demo saw, it'd make a heck of a 
beach buggy...but I'd have to park it indoors to keep from ruining the leather.

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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

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> On August 17, 2017 at 5:37 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Let me out is this way, I ended up selling a non wrecked, brand new complete 
> ac system, brand new Michelin tires, not wrecked, no paint issues, no rust 
> for $1700 a while back. It would have to be about $500 unless you already had 
> all the parts laying around. 


Somebody's paying $11k or more for this hail damaged ML550, but it's a bit 
newer than the one you sold. 
https://www.copart.com/lot/35477817

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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 17, 2017 at 5:37 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Let me out is this way, I ended up selling a non wrecked, brand new complete 
> ac system, brand new Michelin tires, not wrecked, no paint issues, no rust 
> for $1700 a while back. It would have to be about $500 unless you already had 
> all the parts laying around. 

OK. I threw a $675 bid ($945 with fees) on it before I came home, I'll just sit 
and watch instead of re-bidding. 
M163 is body on frame, right? 
For the price of a radiator, headlight and demo saw, it'd make a heck of a 
beach buggy...but I'd have to park it indoors to keep from ruining the leather.

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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Let me out is this way, I ended up selling a non wrecked, brand new complete ac 
system, brand new Michelin tires, not wrecked, no paint issues, no rust for 
$1700 a while back. It would have to be about $500 unless you already had all 
the parts laying around. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So you wouldn't pay a grand for it and start looking for parts?
> Mitch.
> 
>> On August 17, 2017 at 5:33 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Not unless you already have a parts car to swap parts. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 2003 ML350, 188k mi, hit in the left headlight, foglight, condenser, 
>>> grille, radiator, left fan in front of condenser, and left fender, that I 
>>> know of.
>>> Undercarriage looks nice, a spot of rust on the body behind left rear door, 
>>> probably some kid scratched the paint getting in the back 6 years ago and 
>>> they let it go rusty. Clean title, shifts quickly and quietly into first 
>>> and reverse, reasonably good set of 17" Michelin Defenders on it.
>>> Heated seats, no navigation, Bose audio, looks like a changer in the back 
>>> but I didn't bother to swing it out and look at it. 
>>> I'll have to pay to flatbed it home, thanks to the busted radiator. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Estate 79 CD

[WILTON via Mercedes]

And this the one for which I was gonna split $50 k with Dan?  'Sorry, Dan. 
Maybe, next time.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes" 

To: 
Cc: "Rich Thomas" 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Estate 79 CD



So Max and I went to look at this car.

Good:
Interior pretty nice, some of the wood was coming loose
Original Becker radio, works
Dash good
Everything appears to be there
New battery
Started right up but idling very fast, maybe a missing return spring or 
something, shut off fine so vac OK

Body straight, no visible dings
Respray at some point looked OK
Pretty clean

Not so good:
Pass door not closing well
AC belt missing so I guess NO ICE COLD
Respray at some point
Rust around side chrome trim
LR bottom of rear window rust hole, water in trunk
Rust at door bottoms
Rusty in front of pass wheel well under the hood in that flat area
Window rubber all dried and cracking
Engine bay needs a good cleaning but otherwise looked OK

I forgot to try the windows and other stuff
I didn't drive it to see how that might be
Spare looked like an original tire on a bundt

I offered the estate sales woman $1500, she was thinking $7k blahblah 
million mile engine blahblah, she called the old guy and presented the 
offer, he says he'll think about it and see if any others come in.  He 
didn't say hell no.  If she gets back to me like Sat or Sun or something, 
I'll go drive it and maybe offer $1200 for jerking me around and if there 
is anything at issue with driving it.  Car has apparently been sitting 
awhile, so not been driven much.  Other than the rust, it was a nice 
looking car.  If they get better offers then no problem for me.


I'm thinking If i can get it cheepcheep a BaT candidate with a bit of 
detailing?  Stupid money for it maybe?  Quick flip?


--R

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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

So you wouldn't pay a grand for it and start looking for parts?
Mitch.

> On August 17, 2017 at 5:33 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Not unless you already have a parts car to swap parts. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 17, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 2003 ML350, 188k mi, hit in the left headlight, foglight, condenser, 
> > grille, radiator, left fan in front of condenser, and left fender, that I 
> > know of.
> > Undercarriage looks nice, a spot of rust on the body behind left rear door, 
> > probably some kid scratched the paint getting in the back 6 years ago and 
> > they let it go rusty. Clean title, shifts quickly and quietly into first 
> > and reverse, reasonably good set of 17" Michelin Defenders on it.
> > Heated seats, no navigation, Bose audio, looks like a changer in the back 
> > but I didn't bother to swing it out and look at it. 
> > I'll have to pay to flatbed it home, thanks to the busted radiator. 
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Not unless you already have a parts car to swap parts. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 2003 ML350, 188k mi, hit in the left headlight, foglight, condenser, grille, 
> radiator, left fan in front of condenser, and left fender, that I know of.
> Undercarriage looks nice, a spot of rust on the body behind left rear door, 
> probably some kid scratched the paint getting in the back 6 years ago and 
> they let it go rusty. Clean title, shifts quickly and quietly into first and 
> reverse, reasonably good set of 17" Michelin Defenders on it.
> Heated seats, no navigation, Bose audio, looks like a changer in the back but 
> I didn't bother to swing it out and look at it. 
> I'll have to pay to flatbed it home, thanks to the busted radiator. 
> 
> Comments?
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Diesel Wagon

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 17, 2017 at 2:50 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 

> I'm looking for a 90's gasser wagon

Are you keeping the White Whale, or can it donate some sheet metal?
What parts are different on the 94-95 from the 1987?

https://www.copart.com/lot/36381107

How about a 1988?
https://www.copart.com/lot/36296847

95, needs right doors and professional (or at least Dmitri level) help:
https://www.copart.com/lot/34774867

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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 17, 2017 at 5:07 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The ABS stuff is right behind that headlamp. Expect some electronics gremlins 
> to pop up if there's some damage there.

Oooh, I didn't notice that. I did notice the big yellow blinking exclamation 
point (!) in the speedo, like my 4matic wagon does when I spin the back tires, 
but this ML does it when parked. That'll teach me to take the DAS with me next 
time. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 17, 2017 at 3:38 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> My local Discount Tire charges $16 a wheel for mounting, balancing, and old 
> tire disposal. Doesn't matter if you bought them there or not.

Last time I was there, maybe 20 years ago, it was free mounting and rotation, 
but you had to pay for balancing. At the time Wal-mart only charged for 
balancing, if you bought the tire and paid for the balance, you got lifetime 
road hazard from Wal-Mart. Not any more. 

My Farm Bureau charges $2 stem, $5 dismount, $5 mount, $5 balance. 
So, $17 or $12, depending on if the rim was bare. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

My 2002 ML320 had an ugly repaint on the front foot or so of the LF fender. I 
found a correct (silver) color one at a local wrecker within a week ($150) and 
my son and I had it R'd without much trouble.

The ABS stuff is right behind that headlamp. Expect some electronics gremlins 
to pop up if there's some damage there.

Greg

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> On August 17, 2017 at 4:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Price?

It's an auction, taking pre-bids this week.
At the moment, less than 1k.
But that can easily be 2k plus a fair bit of labor by the time I get it 
roadworthy. 

I assumed it would be midnight blue like my wagon, but it's really green black 
metallic, U189. That'll be fun to find a pre-painted fender for, or $500+ to 
paint a fender. I'm surprised they call it Green Black, it doesn't look at all 
like a Opal Green W140, which is black-green to my eyes. I guess you call 
everybody with a green or blue fender and ask them for the VIN of the donor 
car. 

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Anyone need to sell an OM617.910?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/2867866-new-benzworld-looking-om617-910-a.html

Rich?  Waste of a wagon / SLS engine, maybe you can talk him into adding
SLS to his sedan?
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 17, 2017 at 4:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Price?

It's an auction, taking pre-bids this week.
At the moment, less than 1k.
But that can easily be 2k plus a fair bit of labor by the time I get it 
roadworthy. 

I assumed it would be midnight blue like my wagon, but it's really green black 
metallic, U189. That'll be fun to find a pre-painted fender for, or $500+ to 
paint a fender. I'm surprised they call it Green Black, it doesn't look at all 
like a Opal Green W140, which is black-green to my eyes. I guess you call 
everybody with a green or blue fender and ask them for the VIN of the donor 
car. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'll bet you can pull that fender out and rattle-can paint it decent enough
to drive, probably last decades.  Get a junkyard radiator and condenser and
light, yer goot-to-go...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:42 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> How much is the most important factor.
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:40 PM
> To: Mercedes List 
> Subject: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?
>
> 2003 ML350, 188k mi, hit in the left headlight, foglight, condenser,
> grille, radiator, left fan in front of condenser, and left fender, that I
> know of.
> Undercarriage looks nice, a spot of rust on the body behind left rear
> door, probably some kid scratched the paint getting in the back 6 years ago
> and they let it go rusty. Clean title, shifts quickly and quietly into
> first and reverse, reasonably good set of 17" Michelin Defenders on it.
> Heated seats, no navigation, Bose audio, looks like a changer in the back
> but I didn't bother to swing it out and look at it.
> I'll have to pay to flatbed it home, thanks to the busted radiator.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

How much is the most important factor. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 3:40 PM
To: Mercedes List 
Subject: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

2003 ML350, 188k mi, hit in the left headlight, foglight, condenser, grille, 
radiator, left fan in front of condenser, and left fender, that I know of.
Undercarriage looks nice, a spot of rust on the body behind left rear door, 
probably some kid scratched the paint getting in the back 6 years ago and they 
let it go rusty. Clean title, shifts quickly and quietly into first and 
reverse, reasonably good set of 17" Michelin Defenders on it.
Heated seats, no navigation, Bose audio, looks like a changer in the back but I 
didn't bother to swing it out and look at it. 
I'll have to pay to flatbed it home, thanks to the busted radiator. 

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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Price?

-D


> On Aug 17, 2017, at 4:39 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 2003 ML350, 188k mi, hit in the left headlight, foglight, condenser, grille, 
> radiator, left fan in front of condenser, and left fender, that I know of.
> Undercarriage looks nice, a spot of rust on the body behind left rear door, 
> probably some kid scratched the paint getting in the back 6 years ago and 
> they let it go rusty. Clean title, shifts quickly and quietly into first and 
> reverse, reasonably good set of 17" Michelin Defenders on it.
> Heated seats, no navigation, Bose audio, looks like a changer in the back but 
> I didn't bother to swing it out and look at it. 
> I'll have to pay to flatbed it home, thanks to the busted radiator. 
> 
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[MBZ] Should I buy a ML350?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

2003 ML350, 188k mi, hit in the left headlight, foglight, condenser, grille, 
radiator, left fan in front of condenser, and left fender, that I know of.
Undercarriage looks nice, a spot of rust on the body behind left rear door, 
probably some kid scratched the paint getting in the back 6 years ago and they 
let it go rusty. Clean title, shifts quickly and quietly into first and 
reverse, reasonably good set of 17" Michelin Defenders on it.
Heated seats, no navigation, Bose audio, looks like a changer in the back but I 
didn't bother to swing it out and look at it. 
I'll have to pay to flatbed it home, thanks to the busted radiator. 

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[MBZ] nice car, but Paint-Huffer price

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

https://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/d/1985-super-clean-mercedes-500/6267941404.html

Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] In all my years I have never seen an ad with photos like this, and I might have to go visit Craig again

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

We do not have those around here to my knowledge.
Squirrels will do the same with food for winter. I had an older Ford LTD 
waiting for some repair one summer and when I opened the hood in the 
fall, it was pretty much packed solid with some sort of red fruit from 
trees. Not sure what it was exactly - ornamental crabapples maybe.


RB

On 17/08/2017 2:46 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Packrats. Really!

 If you have ever seen packrats in underhood areas, you can call it 
immediately.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
August 17, 2017 at 2:22 PM
Yes, I was thinking more like squirrels. I cannot see mice moving 
stones like that unless they have much bigger mice than we do. Rats 
maybe?
Anything else out there that would do something like that? Wouldn't 
think it is likely racoons.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Estate 79 CD

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

If the servo had done the major puke, it would be leaking like a sieve.

-D

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was surprised that it started up so quickly, sounded pretty good, but
> that rust is a deal killer for me.  I don't even think the BaT boys would
> get too hot about that.
> 
> Windshield and backlight gaskets were severely dried and cracked and
> probably leaking as well, so that would be another ordeal.
> 
> This car also has the evil Chrysler servo system for the HVAC, who knows if
> that still functions.  The coolant in the radiator looked nasty so I'm
> guessing that servo is dead.
> 
> Never know unless you go look I guess.  I was sort of tempted to ask about
> the pressure washer and the air compressor, but resisted.  Somebody snapped
> up a Coleman camp stove, still in original cardboard box, just before we
> got there.  I probably would have offered $20 for that.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> So Max and I went to look at this car.
>> 
>> Good:
>> Interior pretty nice, some of the wood was coming loose
>> Original Becker radio, works
>> Dash good
>> Everything appears to be there
>> New battery
>> Started right up but idling very fast, maybe a missing return spring or
>> something, shut off fine so vac OK
>> Body straight, no visible dings
>> Respray at some point looked OK
>> Pretty clean
>> 
>> Not so good:
>> Pass door not closing well
>> AC belt missing so I guess NO ICE COLD
>> Respray at some point
>> Rust around side chrome trim
>> LR bottom of rear window rust hole, water in trunk
>> Rust at door bottoms
>> Rusty in front of pass wheel well under the hood in that flat area
>> Window rubber all dried and cracking
>> Engine bay needs a good cleaning but otherwise looked OK
>> 
>> I forgot to try the windows and other stuff
>> I didn't drive it to see how that might be
>> Spare looked like an original tire on a bundt
>> 
>> I offered the estate sales woman $1500, she was thinking $7k blahblah
>> million mile engine blahblah, she called the old guy and presented the
>> offer, he says he'll think about it and see if any others come in.  He
>> didn't say hell no.  If she gets back to me like Sat or Sun or something,
>> I'll go drive it and maybe offer $1200 for jerking me around and if there
>> is anything at issue with driving it.  Car has apparently been sitting
>> awhile, so not been driven much.  Other than the rust, it was a nice
>> looking car.  If they get better offers then no problem for me.
>> 
>> I'm thinking If i can get it cheepcheep a BaT candidate with a bit of
>> detailing?  Stupid money for it maybe?  Quick flip?
>> 
>> 
>> --R
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

That is why I decided to get the premiere a/s.  They claim they stop just as 
well when worn.   Consumer Reports tested it and the premiere were as good or 
better stopping on wet roads when it was 50% worn.   Michelin claims that the 
wet /rain grooves expand and therefore are better at dispersing water.  

https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/08/tests-reveal-the-michelin-premier-as-tire-that-doesn-t-give-up-grip-as-it-wears/index.htm


Don Snook 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

Isn't the issue with these million-mile tires that they are a really hard 
compound and not too good in the wet?

--R


On 8/17/17 1:48 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> I bought grand daughter Defenders for her Honda Accord several years ago and 
> she's still driving on them; no problems.
>
> How much does Walmart charge for mounting tires? I just paid a local shop $60 
> for mounting and balancing 4 tires. Disposal was included in the price.
> Thanks,
> Gerry
> 
> "Kaleb wrote:
>> Defender is going to be a lower speed rated tire. I know it is only 
>> appropriate on older cars. Should not be used on anything 124 or 
>> newer. I will say I have the premiers on my 97 e300 and they are 
>> great tires. Order from discount tire direct though, should be 
>> cheaper than tire rack. If you don't have your own tire machine and 
>> computer balancer like I do them them them to Walmart to get mounted
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:37 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> A couple weeks ago I discovered I had a bad tire with a big gash and steel 
>>> belts starting to poke through the tread.  I put the spare on the car and 
>>> had all the tires balanced. I planned to replace the tires sometime this 
>>> month.   In the interim I drove over 2000 miles on a trip to Mississippi.  
>>> My brother rode with me on part of the trip and we noticed a vibration was 
>>> back even though I had the tires all balanced.   I checked the tire 
>>> pressure and tried to feel around the tires and didn't notice anything.  I 
>>> made it back to Wichita without any problems.   But, Monday I was working 
>>> and the maintenance guy from the building next to mine asked me if I had 
>>> seen my car.   About 30 minutes before I had gone to lunch less than a mile 
>>> from my office and returned.  It was fine then.  Apparently, after getting 
>>> back from lunch, the tire had enough and gave up.  It was totally flat.   I 
>>> took a picture.  It was bad.  This was NOT the one with a gash in it.  But, 
>>> it did fail on the inside edg
 e - clearly the alignment is off.So, now I am getting FOUR new tires and 
an alignment.
>>>
>>> Shopping for tires took some real research.  I wanted to get Michelins if I 
>>> could afford them.  I called all around to places in Wichita and no one had 
>>> any.  It is not a weird size, they are 235-60-16.   One shop said they 
>>> could order a set of the Michelin Defender for $925 (with 
>>> mounting/balancing/taxes etc).  But, I finally found them on Tire Rack!   I 
>>> got the more expensive Michelin Premiere for $600 including shipping!   
>>> Another shop had quoted me over $200 per tire plus mounting and balancing.  
>>>  Most of the shops were trying to sell me Goodyear OR the Potenza.  But, 
>>> the Potenza was $240 per tire and had no mileage warranty.
>>>
>>> I hope I decided on the right ones.  The Michelin defender is very popular 
>>> and is ultra long wearing.  Many reviews reported 90,000 miles on them.   
>>> But, the Premiere A/S has the very best ratings for wet driving situations 
>>> and still has a long 70,000 mile warranty.
>>>
>>> A picture of my flat is attached!
>>>
>>>
>>> Don Snook
>>>
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] In all my years I have never seen an ad with photos like this, and I might have to go visit Craig again

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Packrats.  Really!

 If you have ever seen packrats in underhood areas, you can call it 
immediately.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
August 17, 2017 at 2:22 PM
Yes, I was thinking more like squirrels. I cannot see mice moving 
stones like that unless they have much bigger mice than we do. Rats 
maybe?
Anything else out there that would do something like that? Wouldn't 
think it is likely racoons.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

YES!!! and awful in Schnee.


Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
August 17, 2017 at 2:06 PM
Isn't the issue with these million-mile tires that they are a really 
hard compound and not too good in the wet?


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Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

My local Discount Tire charges $16 a wheel for mounting, balancing, and old 
tire disposal. Doesn't matter if you bought them there or not.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] In all my years I have never seen an ad with photos like this, and I might have to go visit Craig again

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Packrats:
4 legged under the hood
2 legged inside the car.

Run away.  wiring will be all chewed up



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
August 16, 2017 at 9:18 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-/263149978387?hash=item3d44f60313:g:JMUAAOSwV2ZZlG3h=mtr 




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Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Maybe because they had them in Denver so its not a cross country deal.  I am 
not sure.  The shipping was only $64.  I thought that was pretty good.  I 
ordered them Monday night and they will be here today. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 10:27 AM
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

Wow never seen that, tire rack has always been more expensive after shipping. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Donald Snook  wrote:
> 
> Discount tire was $140 more expensive than Tire Rack even with shipping.  I 
> got the road hazard included and got 10% off the tires.
> 
> Don Snook   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:38 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again
> 
> Defender is going to be a lower speed rated tire. I know it is only 
> appropriate on older cars. Should not be used on anything 124 or newer. I 
> will say I have the premiers on my 97 e300 and they are great tires. Order 
> from discount tire direct though, should be cheaper than tire rack. If you 
> don't have your own tire machine and computer balancer like I do them them 
> them to Walmart to get mounted 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:37 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A couple weeks ago I discovered I had a bad tire with a big gash and steel 
>> belts starting to poke through the tread.  I put the spare on the car and 
>> had all the tires balanced. I planned to replace the tires sometime this 
>> month.   In the interim I drove over 2000 miles on a trip to Mississippi.  
>> My brother rode with me on part of the trip and we noticed a vibration was 
>> back even though I had the tires all balanced.   I checked the tire pressure 
>> and tried to feel around the tires and didn't notice anything.  I made it 
>> back to Wichita without any problems.   But, Monday I was working and the 
>> maintenance guy from the building next to mine asked me if I had seen my 
>> car.   About 30 minutes before I had gone to lunch less than a mile from my 
>> office and returned.  It was fine then.  Apparently, after getting back from 
>> lunch, the tire had enough and gave up.  It was totally flat.   I took a 
>> picture.  It was bad.  This was NOT the one with a gash in it.  But, it did 
>> fail on the inside edge
  - clearly the alignment is off.So, now I am getting FOUR new tires and an 
alignment.
>> 
>> Shopping for tires took some real research.  I wanted to get Michelins if I 
>> could afford them.  I called all around to places in Wichita and no one had 
>> any.  It is not a weird size, they are 235-60-16.   One shop said they could 
>> order a set of the Michelin Defender for $925 (with mounting/balancing/taxes 
>> etc).  But, I finally found them on Tire Rack!   I got the more expensive 
>> Michelin Premiere for $600 including shipping!   Another shop had quoted me 
>> over $200 per tire plus mounting and balancing.   Most of the shops were 
>> trying to sell me Goodyear OR the Potenza.  But, the Potenza was $240 per 
>> tire and had no mileage warranty.
>> 
>> I hope I decided on the right ones.  The Michelin defender is very popular 
>> and is ultra long wearing.  Many reviews reported 90,000 miles on them.   
>> But, the Premiere A/S has the very best ratings for wet driving situations 
>> and still has a long 70,000 mile warranty.
>> 
>> A picture of my flat is attached!
>> 
>> 
>> Don Snook
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] In all my years I have never seen an ad with photos like this, and I might have to go visit Craig again

[G Mann via Mercedes]

The work of Western Pack Rats they haul in all kinds of junk to make
their nests.

If you only lived in East coast, unlikely you've ever seen their work...

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes, I was thinking more like squirrels. I cannot see mice moving stones
> like that unless they have much bigger mice than we do. Rats maybe?
> Anything else out there that would do something like that? Wouldn't think
> it is likely racoons.
>
> RB
>
> On 17/08/2017 11:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Pebble fortress.  These mice have been pumping iron.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Those weren't mice nests, they were a mouse fortress!
>>>
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have seen mice damage to a car, but never seen a nest like this before



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Re: [MBZ] Kid tears up the car yet again

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Yes, or, since most use some form of electrical or vacuum assisted 
mechanism to put the front axle in gear, he could just disconnect the 
electrical wires or a vacuum hose (and plug it).


RB

On 17/08/2017 2:28 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

just pull the front driveshaft, but don't tell anyone.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
August 16, 2017 at 11:43 AM
Ok, I guess it would be easy enough for Kleb to disable the 4WD.

RB



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Re: [MBZ] Seems nice and a decent deal

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Peter wrote:
> Also listed on Craigslist about 300 miles from it's actual location..

Yes - what is its location?  Park Ridge or Southern IL?  Probably
meant to say southern suburbs?
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Kid tears up the car yet again

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

just pull the front driveshaft, but don't tell anyone.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
August 16, 2017 at 11:43 AM
Ok, I guess it would be easy enough for Kleb to disable the 4WD.

RB



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Re: [MBZ] Kid tears up the car yet again

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Craig may be thinking he shoulda put a new LCA on the 240D 3.0 instead 
of paying for the okie POS 124 missing a cylinder.



Craig via Mercedes 
August 16, 2017 at 11:31 AM
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 21:14:04 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"

GG :-)


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] In all my years I have never seen an ad with photos like this, and I might have to go visit Craig again

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Yes, I was thinking more like squirrels. I cannot see mice moving stones 
like that unless they have much bigger mice than we do. Rats maybe?
Anything else out there that would do something like that? Wouldn't 
think it is likely racoons.


RB

On 17/08/2017 11:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Pebble fortress.  These mice have been pumping iron.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Those weren't mice nests, they were a mouse fortress!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I have seen mice damage to a car, but never seen a nest like this before





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Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 17/08/2017 2:06 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
Isn't the issue with these million-mile tires that they are a really 
hard compound and not too good in the wet?


--R


And even worse in snow or on ice.
Years back I had a set of Michelin tires that would not wear out - But 
they got to where I could get stuck on a flat parking lot if it was 
slippery.
I was at a local auto parts store and could not move forward or backward 
as the lot was a bit uneven from it being warm and then turning cold. 
Small bumps in the ice prevented me from moving as the tires just spun.

I finally replaced them for that reason.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Kid tears up the car yet again

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Jerry Apps, in the book Symbols, has a story about their rural mailman 
in 1963.  He had a welder make a skidplate for his '63 Chevy.  Jerry 
tells about the mailman taking a running start, hitting a long mudhole 
on theroad, and skidding over it on the skidplate while the farmer 
trying to pull the milk truck out of the hold looked on.


Kid need to buy his own car and put skidplates on it.

SWMBO:  Turn on WIndows firewall.  Block fakebuch. in and out.  (Or just 
out to prevent posting) Don't tell her.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
August 15, 2017 at 5:41 PM
I'm done this time, not screwing with it AT ALL. Looks like he ran 
over something again pushing the lower support back which pushed the 
radiator into the fan knocking a hole in it. Of course the wife had to 
post it on Facebook and makes the statement that I left bolts out 
causing it to move forward. This coming a couple of weeks after her 
air filter caught on fire due to what I can only guess was a cigarette 
thrown out of a car. That also got blasted all over Facebook implying 
improper repairs or maintenance on my part. I am not sure why people 
thing they have to absolutely live die and breath on Facebook


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Re: [MBZ] Estate 79 CD

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I was surprised that it started up so quickly, sounded pretty good, but
that rust is a deal killer for me.  I don't even think the BaT boys would
get too hot about that.

Windshield and backlight gaskets were severely dried and cracked and
probably leaking as well, so that would be another ordeal.

This car also has the evil Chrysler servo system for the HVAC, who knows if
that still functions.  The coolant in the radiator looked nasty so I'm
guessing that servo is dead.

Never know unless you go look I guess.  I was sort of tempted to ask about
the pressure washer and the air compressor, but resisted.  Somebody snapped
up a Coleman camp stove, still in original cardboard box, just before we
got there.  I probably would have offered $20 for that.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So Max and I went to look at this car.
>
> Good:
> Interior pretty nice, some of the wood was coming loose
> Original Becker radio, works
> Dash good
> Everything appears to be there
> New battery
> Started right up but idling very fast, maybe a missing return spring or
> something, shut off fine so vac OK
> Body straight, no visible dings
> Respray at some point looked OK
> Pretty clean
>
> Not so good:
> Pass door not closing well
> AC belt missing so I guess NO ICE COLD
> Respray at some point
> Rust around side chrome trim
> LR bottom of rear window rust hole, water in trunk
> Rust at door bottoms
> Rusty in front of pass wheel well under the hood in that flat area
> Window rubber all dried and cracking
> Engine bay needs a good cleaning but otherwise looked OK
>
> I forgot to try the windows and other stuff
> I didn't drive it to see how that might be
> Spare looked like an original tire on a bundt
>
> I offered the estate sales woman $1500, she was thinking $7k blahblah
> million mile engine blahblah, she called the old guy and presented the
> offer, he says he'll think about it and see if any others come in.  He
> didn't say hell no.  If she gets back to me like Sat or Sun or something,
> I'll go drive it and maybe offer $1200 for jerking me around and if there
> is anything at issue with driving it.  Car has apparently been sitting
> awhile, so not been driven much.  Other than the rust, it was a nice
> looking car.  If they get better offers then no problem for me.
>
> I'm thinking If i can get it cheepcheep a BaT candidate with a bit of
> detailing?  Stupid money for it maybe?  Quick flip?
>
>
> --R
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Isn't the issue with these million-mile tires that they are a really 
hard compound and not too good in the wet?


--R


On 8/17/17 1:48 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

I bought grand daughter Defenders for her Honda Accord several years ago and 
she's still driving on them; no problems.

How much does Walmart charge for mounting tires? I just paid a local shop $60 
for mounting and balancing 4 tires. Disposal was included in the price.
Thanks,
Gerry

"Kaleb wrote:

Defender is going to be a lower speed rated tire. I know it is only appropriate 
on older cars. Should not be used on anything 124 or newer. I will say I have 
the premiers on my 97 e300 and they are great tires. Order from discount tire 
direct though, should be cheaper than tire rack. If you don't have your own 
tire machine and computer balancer like I do them them them to Walmart to get 
mounted

Sent from my iPhone


On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:37 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes  
wrote:

A couple weeks ago I discovered I had a bad tire with a big gash and steel 
belts starting to poke through the tread.  I put the spare on the car and had 
all the tires balanced. I planned to replace the tires sometime this month.   
In the interim I drove over 2000 miles on a trip to Mississippi.  My brother 
rode with me on part of the trip and we noticed a vibration was back even 
though I had the tires all balanced.   I checked the tire pressure and tried to 
feel around the tires and didn't notice anything.  I made it back to Wichita 
without any problems.   But, Monday I was working and the maintenance guy from 
the building next to mine asked me if I had seen my car.   About 30 minutes 
before I had gone to lunch less than a mile from my office and returned.  It 
was fine then.  Apparently, after getting back from lunch, the tire had enough 
and gave up.  It was totally flat.   I took a picture.  It was bad.  This was 
NOT the one with a gash in it.  But, it did fail on the inside edg

e - clearly the alignment is off.So, now I am getting FOUR new tires and an 
alignment.


Shopping for tires took some real research.  I wanted to get Michelins if I 
could afford them.  I called all around to places in Wichita and no one had 
any.  It is not a weird size, they are 235-60-16.   One shop said they could 
order a set of the Michelin Defender for $925 (with mounting/balancing/taxes 
etc).  But, I finally found them on Tire Rack!   I got the more expensive 
Michelin Premiere for $600 including shipping!   Another shop had quoted me 
over $200 per tire plus mounting and balancing.   Most of the shops were trying 
to sell me Goodyear OR the Potenza.  But, the Potenza was $240 per tire and had 
no mileage warranty.

I hope I decided on the right ones.  The Michelin defender is very popular and 
is ultra long wearing.  Many reviews reported 90,000 miles on them.   But, the 
Premiere A/S has the very best ratings for wet driving situations and still has 
a long 70,000 mile warranty.

A picture of my flat is attached!


Don Snook



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Re: [MBZ] Estate 79 CD

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

So Max and I went to look at this car.

Good:
Interior pretty nice, some of the wood was coming loose
Original Becker radio, works
Dash good
Everything appears to be there
New battery
Started right up but idling very fast, maybe a missing return spring or 
something, shut off fine so vac OK

Body straight, no visible dings
Respray at some point looked OK
Pretty clean

Not so good:
Pass door not closing well
AC belt missing so I guess NO ICE COLD
Respray at some point
Rust around side chrome trim
LR bottom of rear window rust hole, water in trunk
Rust at door bottoms
Rusty in front of pass wheel well under the hood in that flat area
Window rubber all dried and cracking
Engine bay needs a good cleaning but otherwise looked OK

I forgot to try the windows and other stuff
I didn't drive it to see how that might be
Spare looked like an original tire on a bundt

I offered the estate sales woman $1500, she was thinking $7k blahblah 
million mile engine blahblah, she called the old guy and presented the 
offer, he says he'll think about it and see if any others come in.  He 
didn't say hell no.  If she gets back to me like Sat or Sun or 
something, I'll go drive it and maybe offer $1200 for jerking me around 
and if there is anything at issue with driving it.  Car has apparently 
been sitting awhile, so not been driven much.  Other than the rust, it 
was a nice looking car.  If they get better offers then no problem for me.


I'm thinking If i can get it cheepcheep a BaT candidate with a bit of 
detailing?  Stupid money for it maybe?  Quick flip?


--R

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Diesel Wagon

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

This looks like a good candidate for a revival, if truly rust free.

I'm looking for a 90's gasser wagon to be the recipient of my current
drivetrain or maybe the drivetrain from Wilton's '87 sedan.  Ideally a
really nice body and interior with dead motor or trans, '94 or '95, and
within a day's drive of Chucktown.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Wasn't someone looking for one of these for a donor car? Max?
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6268273794.html
>
>
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[MBZ] W124 Diesel Wagon

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Wasn't someone looking for one of these for a donor car? Max?

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/6268273794.html

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I thing about $12 per wheel

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 12:48 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I bought grand daughter Defenders for her Honda Accord several years ago and 
> she's still driving on them; no problems.
> 
> How much does Walmart charge for mounting tires? I just paid a local shop $60 
> for mounting and balancing 4 tires. Disposal was included in the price.
> Thanks,
> Gerry
> 
> "Kaleb wrote:
>> Defender is going to be a lower speed rated tire. I know it is only 
>> appropriate on older cars. Should not be used on anything 124 or newer. I 
>> will say I have the premiers on my 97 e300 and they are great tires. Order 
>> from discount tire direct though, should be cheaper than tire rack. If you 
>> don't have your own tire machine and computer balancer like I do them them 
>> them to Walmart to get mounted 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:37 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A couple weeks ago I discovered I had a bad tire with a big gash and steel 
>>> belts starting to poke through the tread.  I put the spare on the car and 
>>> had all the tires balanced. I planned to replace the tires sometime this 
>>> month.   In the interim I drove over 2000 miles on a trip to Mississippi.  
>>> My brother rode with me on part of the trip and we noticed a vibration was 
>>> back even though I had the tires all balanced.   I checked the tire 
>>> pressure and tried to feel around the tires and didn't notice anything.  I 
>>> made it back to Wichita without any problems.   But, Monday I was working 
>>> and the maintenance guy from the building next to mine asked me if I had 
>>> seen my car.   About 30 minutes before I had gone to lunch less than a mile 
>>> from my office and returned.  It was fine then.  Apparently, after getting 
>>> back from lunch, the tire had enough and gave up.  It was totally flat.   I 
>>> took a picture.  It was bad.  This was NOT the one with a gash in it.  But, 
>>> it did fail on the inside edg
 e - clearly the alignment is off.So, now I am getting FOUR new tires and 
an alignment.
>>> 
>>> Shopping for tires took some real research.  I wanted to get Michelins if I 
>>> could afford them.  I called all around to places in Wichita and no one had 
>>> any.  It is not a weird size, they are 235-60-16.   One shop said they 
>>> could order a set of the Michelin Defender for $925 (with 
>>> mounting/balancing/taxes etc).  But, I finally found them on Tire Rack!   I 
>>> got the more expensive Michelin Premiere for $600 including shipping!   
>>> Another shop had quoted me over $200 per tire plus mounting and balancing.  
>>>  Most of the shops were trying to sell me Goodyear OR the Potenza.  But, 
>>> the Potenza was $240 per tire and had no mileage warranty.
>>> 
>>> I hope I decided on the right ones.  The Michelin defender is very popular 
>>> and is ultra long wearing.  Many reviews reported 90,000 miles on them.   
>>> But, the Premiere A/S has the very best ratings for wet driving situations 
>>> and still has a long 70,000 mile warranty.
>>> 
>>> A picture of my flat is attached!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Don Snook
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I bought grand daughter Defenders for her Honda Accord several years ago and 
she's still driving on them; no problems.

How much does Walmart charge for mounting tires? I just paid a local shop $60 
for mounting and balancing 4 tires. Disposal was included in the price.
Thanks,
Gerry

"Kaleb wrote:
> Defender is going to be a lower speed rated tire. I know it is only 
> appropriate on older cars. Should not be used on anything 124 or newer. I 
> will say I have the premiers on my 97 e300 and they are great tires. Order 
> from discount tire direct though, should be cheaper than tire rack. If you 
> don't have your own tire machine and computer balancer like I do them them 
> them to Walmart to get mounted 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:37 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > A couple weeks ago I discovered I had a bad tire with a big gash and steel 
> > belts starting to poke through the tread.  I put the spare on the car and 
> > had all the tires balanced. I planned to replace the tires sometime this 
> > month.   In the interim I drove over 2000 miles on a trip to Mississippi.  
> > My brother rode with me on part of the trip and we noticed a vibration was 
> > back even though I had the tires all balanced.   I checked the tire 
> > pressure and tried to feel around the tires and didn't notice anything.  I 
> > made it back to Wichita without any problems.   But, Monday I was working 
> > and the maintenance guy from the building next to mine asked me if I had 
> > seen my car.   About 30 minutes before I had gone to lunch less than a mile 
> > from my office and returned.  It was fine then.  Apparently, after getting 
> > back from lunch, the tire had enough and gave up.  It was totally flat.   I 
> > took a picture.  It was bad.  This was NOT the one with a gash in it.  But, 
> > it did fail on the inside edg
 e - clearly the alignment is off.So, now I am getting FOUR new tires and 
an alignment.
> > 
> > Shopping for tires took some real research.  I wanted to get Michelins if I 
> > could afford them.  I called all around to places in Wichita and no one had 
> > any.  It is not a weird size, they are 235-60-16.   One shop said they 
> > could order a set of the Michelin Defender for $925 (with 
> > mounting/balancing/taxes etc).  But, I finally found them on Tire Rack!   I 
> > got the more expensive Michelin Premiere for $600 including shipping!   
> > Another shop had quoted me over $200 per tire plus mounting and balancing.  
> >  Most of the shops were trying to sell me Goodyear OR the Potenza.  But, 
> > the Potenza was $240 per tire and had no mileage warranty.
> > 
> > I hope I decided on the right ones.  The Michelin defender is very popular 
> > and is ultra long wearing.  Many reviews reported 90,000 miles on them.   
> > But, the Premiere A/S has the very best ratings for wet driving situations 
> > and still has a long 70,000 mile warranty.
> > 
> > A picture of my flat is attached!
> > 
> > 
> > Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] In all my years I have never seen an ad with photos like this, and I might have to go visit Craig again

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Pebble fortress.  These mice have been pumping iron.

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> Those weren't mice nests, they were a mouse fortress!
>
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] I think I need this

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Nor are we...

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> But I'm not entirely sure why
>
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb D'Orlando?

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Looks a fun project to work on in the back 40.

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> the price is non-negotiable
>
> --R
>
>
> On 8/17/17 12:32 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
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>> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/1984-mercedes-benz-300s
>> d/6267382985.html
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>> Four Mercedes for the price of one, _or_ buy my rusty junk cars!
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Re: [MBZ] Seems nice and a decent deal

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Also listed on Craigslist about 300 miles from it's actual location..  

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> From the pictures it's one of those super rare 4 door coupes...
> 
> H
> 
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>> Respray?  But I like the color, and it is a coupe.
>> 
>> --R
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Seems nice and a decent deal

[G Mann via Mercedes]

>From the pictures it's one of those super rare 4 door coupes...

H

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> Respray?  But I like the color, and it is a coupe.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 8/16/17 9:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>
>>
>> 1986 Mercedes
>> https://carbondale.craigslist.org/cto/d/1986-mercedes/6245993153.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] In all my years I have never seen an ad with photos like this, and I might have to go visit Craig again

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Those weren't mice nests, they were a mouse fortress!

-
Max
Charleston SC

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> I have seen mice damage to a car, but never seen a nest like this before
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Re: [MBZ] In all my years I have never seen an ad with photos like this, and I might have to go visit Craig again

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have seen mice damage to a car, but never seen a nest like this before

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> On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:23 AM, Donald Snook  wrote:
> 
> Well it is cheap.  I suppose it would be worth at least the asking price for 
> parts.  But, it’s a turd AND its full of mice turds.   I imagine all the 
> wiring has been chewed up.  It would be nightmare to get it running.  
> 
> Don Snook 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 9:18 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: [MBZ] In all my years I have never seen an ad with photos like this, 
> and I might have to go visit Craig again
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-/263149978387?hash=item3d44f60313:g:JMUAAOSwV2ZZlG3h=mtr
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Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Wow never seen that, tire rack has always been more expensive after shipping. 

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> On Aug 17, 2017, at 10:19 AM, Donald Snook  wrote:
> 
> Discount tire was $140 more expensive than Tire Rack even with shipping.  I 
> got the road hazard included and got 10% off the tires.
> 
> Don Snook   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin [mailto:ka...@striplin.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:38 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again
> 
> Defender is going to be a lower speed rated tire. I know it is only 
> appropriate on older cars. Should not be used on anything 124 or newer. I 
> will say I have the premiers on my 97 e300 and they are great tires. Order 
> from discount tire direct though, should be cheaper than tire rack. If you 
> don't have your own tire machine and computer balancer like I do them them 
> them to Walmart to get mounted 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:37 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A couple weeks ago I discovered I had a bad tire with a big gash and steel 
>> belts starting to poke through the tread.  I put the spare on the car and 
>> had all the tires balanced. I planned to replace the tires sometime this 
>> month.   In the interim I drove over 2000 miles on a trip to Mississippi.  
>> My brother rode with me on part of the trip and we noticed a vibration was 
>> back even though I had the tires all balanced.   I checked the tire pressure 
>> and tried to feel around the tires and didn't notice anything.  I made it 
>> back to Wichita without any problems.   But, Monday I was working and the 
>> maintenance guy from the building next to mine asked me if I had seen my 
>> car.   About 30 minutes before I had gone to lunch less than a mile from my 
>> office and returned.  It was fine then.  Apparently, after getting back from 
>> lunch, the tire had enough and gave up.  It was totally flat.   I took a 
>> picture.  It was bad.  This was NOT the one with a gash in it.  But, it did 
>> fail on the inside edge
  - clearly the alignment is off.So, now I am getting FOUR new tires and an 
alignment.
>> 
>> Shopping for tires took some real research.  I wanted to get Michelins if I 
>> could afford them.  I called all around to places in Wichita and no one had 
>> any.  It is not a weird size, they are 235-60-16.   One shop said they could 
>> order a set of the Michelin Defender for $925 (with mounting/balancing/taxes 
>> etc).  But, I finally found them on Tire Rack!   I got the more expensive 
>> Michelin Premiere for $600 including shipping!   Another shop had quoted me 
>> over $200 per tire plus mounting and balancing.   Most of the shops were 
>> trying to sell me Goodyear OR the Potenza.  But, the Potenza was $240 per 
>> tire and had no mileage warranty.
>> 
>> I hope I decided on the right ones.  The Michelin defender is very popular 
>> and is ultra long wearing.  Many reviews reported 90,000 miles on them.   
>> But, the Premiere A/S has the very best ratings for wet driving situations 
>> and still has a long 70,000 mile warranty.
>> 
>> A picture of my flat is attached!
>> 
>> 
>> Don Snook
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] In all my years I have never seen an ad with photos like this, and I might have to go visit Craig again

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Well it is cheap.  I suppose it would be worth at least the asking price for 
parts.  But, it’s a turd AND its full of mice turds.   I imagine all the wiring 
has been chewed up.  It would be nightmare to get it running.  

Don Snook 

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Subject: [MBZ] In all my years I have never seen an ad with photos like this, 
and I might have to go visit Craig again

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Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Discount tire was $140 more expensive than Tire Rack even with shipping.  I got 
the road hazard included and got 10% off the tires.

Don Snook   

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires Updated again

Defender is going to be a lower speed rated tire. I know it is only appropriate 
on older cars. Should not be used on anything 124 or newer. I will say I have 
the premiers on my 97 e300 and they are great tires. Order from discount tire 
direct though, should be cheaper than tire rack. If you don't have your own 
tire machine and computer balancer like I do them them them to Walmart to get 
mounted 

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> On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:37 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A couple weeks ago I discovered I had a bad tire with a big gash and steel 
> belts starting to poke through the tread.  I put the spare on the car and had 
> all the tires balanced. I planned to replace the tires sometime this month.   
> In the interim I drove over 2000 miles on a trip to Mississippi.  My brother 
> rode with me on part of the trip and we noticed a vibration was back even 
> though I had the tires all balanced.   I checked the tire pressure and tried 
> to feel around the tires and didn't notice anything.  I made it back to 
> Wichita without any problems.   But, Monday I was working and the maintenance 
> guy from the building next to mine asked me if I had seen my car.   About 30 
> minutes before I had gone to lunch less than a mile from my office and 
> returned.  It was fine then.  Apparently, after getting back from lunch, the 
> tire had enough and gave up.  It was totally flat.   I took a picture.  It 
> was bad.  This was NOT the one with a gash in it.  But, it did fail on the 
> inside edge 
 - clearly the alignment is off.So, now I am getting FOUR new tires and an 
alignment.
> 
> Shopping for tires took some real research.  I wanted to get Michelins if I 
> could afford them.  I called all around to places in Wichita and no one had 
> any.  It is not a weird size, they are 235-60-16.   One shop said they could 
> order a set of the Michelin Defender for $925 (with mounting/balancing/taxes 
> etc).  But, I finally found them on Tire Rack!   I got the more expensive 
> Michelin Premiere for $600 including shipping!   Another shop had quoted me 
> over $200 per tire plus mounting and balancing.   Most of the shops were 
> trying to sell me Goodyear OR the Potenza.  But, the Potenza was $240 per 
> tire and had no mileage warranty.
> 
> I hope I decided on the right ones.  The Michelin defender is very popular 
> and is ultra long wearing.  Many reviews reported 90,000 miles on them.   
> But, the Premiere A/S has the very best ratings for wet driving situations 
> and still has a long 70,000 mile warranty.
> 
> A picture of my flat is attached!
> 
> 
> Don Snook
> 
> 
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[MBZ] I think I need this

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

But I'm not entirely sure why

https://truckyeah.jalopnik.com/the-top-speed-of-a-mercedes-unimogs-super-crawler-gear-1797869370

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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb D'Orlando?

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the price is non-negotiable

--R


On 8/17/17 12:32 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/1984-mercedes-benz-300sd/6267382985.html

Four Mercedes for the price of one, _or_ buy my rusty junk cars!



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Re: [MBZ] Seems nice and a decent deal

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Respray?  But I like the color, and it is a coupe.

--R


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1986 Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Kaleb D'Orlando?

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If the blue one is nice that's a decent deal

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> 
> Four Mercedes for the price of one, _or_ buy my rusty junk cars!
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] In all my years I have never seen an ad with photos like this, and I might have to go visit Craig again

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I think goes beyond even 3M

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> I think Marmel has experience in this area.
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> -D
> 
>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 12:41 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I've got an engine and trans for it, plus two front seats (red), dash center 
>> wood, radio. I'll make you a nice deal.
>> -- 
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>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>>> On August 16, 2017 10:18:10 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-/263149978387?hash=item3d44f60313:g:JMUAAOSwV2ZZlG3h=mtr
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Re: [MBZ] In all my years I have never seen an ad with photos like this, and I might have to go visit Craig again

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I think Marmel has experience in this area.

-D

> On Aug 17, 2017, at 12:41 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
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> I've got an engine and trans for it, plus two front seats (red), dash center 
> wood, radio. I'll make you a nice deal.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On August 16, 2017 10:18:10 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-/263149978387?hash=item3d44f60313:g:JMUAAOSwV2ZZlG3h=mtr
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