date:20170914

I have been a faithful customer of Autohaus AZ for a decade.  Their prices
are usually below most, shipping is free on orders >$75, and I can always
reach them if necessary on their 800 number.  The only downside is that
ground shipping from AZ invariably takes 5 business days (one week). I did
purchase from FCP Euro and Rock Auto recently to get OEM parts, and both
orders were trouble free.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I also buy oil on Amazon. Interestingly my VW parts supplier, IDParts, is
> cheaper than Amazon if I buy an oil change kit but more expensive if I just
> buy a jug of oil.
> -Curt
> On Thursday, September 14, 2017, 3:54:05 PM PDT, Dan Penoff via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  I bought a pair of OE Mercedes front rotors and a pair of Akebono pads
> for my W210 from them.  That’s the extent of my business with them.
>
> I had a promo code or coupon I got from them that made the prices slightly
> below what I would normally pay including shipping, so I went with it.  The
> pads came separately from the discs, and the discs were poorly packed but
> did make the trip from Connecticut to Florida intact.  I suspect the
> distance is what did you in on this.
>
> Even without hearing of your experience would I buy from them again?  Most
> likely not.  The only reason I did was due to the coupon I had, otherwise
> their prices weren’t competitive with my dealer discount and other retail
> establishments.
>
> Sorry you had a bad experience.
>
> My parts providers for years in the following order:
>
> Mercedes (dealer)
> FCP Euro
> Amazon
> Rock Auto
>
> Anyone else is a one-time best deal sort of thing.  I try to keep my money
> with the same suppliers for the most part as it builds loyalty (to me) that
> can have a lot of value if there’s a problem.  In many cases I’ll pay more
> when I buy from my dealer, even with my jobber discount and tax, because
> it’s readily available and there’s no question about quality.
>
> After the dealer it’s FCP Euro, who is good, but not great.  They have a
> lot of gaps in their offerings, which I find sort of weird.
>
> Amazon is pretty good for name brand stuff like Lemförder, Bosch and
> Mann.  I can even get Mobil 1 0W-40 in the five quart jug for less than
> WallWorld sells it for, and they deliver it to my front door - that has
> value in time saved and transportation.
>
> I troll Rock Auto for name brand consumables like Mann, which I can often
> find there for less than what I can get it for anywhere else, especially on
> their closeouts.  I scored a set of brand new Sachs rear shocks for the
> W126 last month on closeout - $15/each.  I don’t really need rear shocks,
> but for that kind of money I couldn’t resist.
>
> -D
>
> > On Sep 14, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have never bought anything from eEuroparts. I order primarily from
> importecautoparts.com, then fcpeuro.com. I order some items from rock
> auto such as ac compressors. Fcp and rock auto have clearance items
> sometimes.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 14, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> A month or two ago, Kaleb posted about a sale at eEuroparts, a new
> vendor
> >> of Mercedes parts. Dan quickly jumped on and reported that he had orderd
> >> some parts (brake pads, IIRC).
> >>
> >> I then went to their website and ordered parts for the E300D, thinking
> >> that they would be a good deal. I was wrong, first on the pricing, and
> >> second on the delivery, which was from Connecticut. In addition, some of
> >> the parts were wrong.
> >>
> >> For example, I ordered the Auto Trans Filter Kit (H2014NKIT). The filter
> >> was the correct one, but the gasket was wrong (see picture attached,
> with
> >> the old gasket shown on the right). I ended up using the old gasket.
> >>
> >> Then there was the case of the brake pads and brake disks. I received
> the
> >> rear disks first. They came in good condition in their own box inside
> the
> >> larger box. I then received the front disks and pads. The pads, in their
> >> own boxes, were placed inside the larger box. The disks, without any
> >> other packing, were placed bare in the larger box.
> >>
> >> The larger box came apart when FedEx was handling it and caused a
> shipping
> >> exception (delay). When it finally got out here to New Mexico, I found
> the
> >> box had been wrapped with packing tape to keep the contents in. I also
> >> found that, indeed, that the box had come apart and that the pad boxes
> had
> >> also had come apart. Pads were missing, the adhesive layer on the rear
> pad
> >> spacers had been contaminated with dirt, lint, and other cruft, and the
> >> brake disks had been dinged on the edge.
> >>
> >> I sent an email to eEuroparts telling the situation and attached
> pictures
> >> of the box and parts. I had to wait for them

Re: [MBZ] Battery Chargers

So really the only thing the big wheel charger would be for is to boost 
and jump start cars, otherwise the small HF unit will probably work, 
which is better for cars that are not sitting in the shop.  I am 
probably going to go back and pick up a least a couple more of them.  
They seem pretty decent as far as I can tell.



On 9/14/2017 8:19 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
Too-rapid recharging is not conducive to battery longevity.  I believe 
that's the big reason that the 8-10A top rate is so common.


My Shauer (?) automatic charger, which I use ALL the time, is still 
working great.  After at least 25 years.  Sears, I think.  Wish I 
could find another one.


No reconditioning, no burst charging modes.

-- Jim





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Re: [MBZ] FL Keys: video of Irma devastation

2017-09-14 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Andrew wrote:
> Strikingly similar to the impacts of a major tornado.  People have
> literally lost everything.

Same actors in all this.  Messed up trailer=duh!!  Trailers wreck easy!
Same seeming poor people with poor BMI.
What might be nice is a video of a guy like Andrew or Kaleb or Dan or
Dwight who does stuff and shows how wrecks are repaired, we assist
each other, we get it done *without* insertion of federal teams of
help.
Dunno - that sort of help is *not* what I want, nor is it the type of
help okiebenz DIY desires, I suspect.
Real people - we do stuff with each other DIY.  Most of the culture is
like us but video seems to want to victimize the same actors.  There
ain't that many victims like typical video makes it seem.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Battery Chargers

2017-09-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes

Too-rapid recharging is not conducive to battery longevity.  I believe
that's the big reason that the 8-10A top rate is so common.

My Shauer (?) automatic charger, which I use ALL the time, is still working
great.  After at least 25 years.  Sears, I think.  Wish I could find
another one.

No reconditioning, no burst charging modes.

-- Jim
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[MBZ] test

2017-09-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes





Craig

--
Present: '90 300D/2.5 Turbo246 kmi
 '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (the Big Red Van,
   affectionately dubbed the BRV)
   207 kmi
 '07 Peterbilt 386  Bruno  885 kmi  For sale!
  Has Cat Platinum Overhaul!
 '00 Kenworth W900  Helmut 943 kmi

Past:'82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   286 kmi
 '95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
 '86 190E/2.3
 '72 220/8
 '64 190Dc  Emma
 '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi

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Re: [MBZ] Corvette Was Totaled Because Of One Inch Crack

Not much wrong with this one topside, dented hood, bent fender, cracked bumper 
plastic. 
Maybe Kleb should fix it up so Regina's kid doesn't have to drive a Jeep. 

https://www.copart.com/lot/39770617

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[MBZ] I smoked too much blue meth


http://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-mercedes-benz-450se-/222644822316?hash=item33d6aa612c:g:KIQAAOSwmhJZunt-=mtr


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[MBZ] Battery Chargers

So I have my 5 or so year old Schumacher manual wheel charger that has 2
amp, 20 amp, 40 amp, and 225 amp start. I bought a smaller carry model
Schumacher fully automatic one a couple of years ago that worked fine.
I cant recall what amps it had but I think it was 2, 20, and 75. So a
couple of weeks ago it died so in looking for another one I came across
this from HF

https://www.harborfreight.com/2815-amp-automatic-microprocessor-controlled-battery-charger-63299.html

It charges at 2 or 8 amps, has recondition mode and is very small and
light weight. I tried it on the fully dead AGM battery that is in the
98 and it would not charge it, said it could not repair it or whatever.
I also tried it in regular charge mode and still no go. I tried it on a
pretty dead AGM in the R320 in repair mode and it charged it fine. Got
this one on coupon for $39

I decided I wanted a fully automatic bigger wheel charger so I bought
this one for $99 from Advance Auto Parts with 25% off online. When I
got it home first of all its missing several of the screws to assemble
it, but I will locate some here. Anyway, I did not pay attention before
I bought it but it only charges at 2 or 6 amps in auto mode. It also has
a timed 40 amp boost mode or 200 amp start. You are not supposed to
charge the battery in 40 amp, just use it to boost a low battery for a
short period of time. I figured this would charge at 20 amps auto, but
it does not so it will take hours to charge a battery. The only thing I
see that this does that the cheap HF one does not is the 40 amp boost
and 200 amp jump start. Otherwise isn't it pointless to have this big
wheel charger that actually charges at a lower rate on normal auto
charge than the cheap small HF unit?

So I tried charging the dead AGM battery with this one, which goes into
desulfication mode automatically if needed, and it would also not charge
the battery. Both this one and the HF I put it on the battery and came
back the next day to check them. I also tried this one on another
regular wet sell battery that is probably bad and it said it could not
desulficate (sp) it either.

I am used to throwing a battery on the manual charger at 20 amps for
about 30-60 minutes and the battery is pretty much charged. I wanted an
auto one because I have a bad habit of putting batteries on the manual
one for too long.

http://www.batterychargers.com/se-4020-ca/

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Re: [MBZ] Corvette Was Totaled Because Of One Inch Crack


How about a first year C3, with 327 and dark green paint?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-chevrolet-corvette-327-3/

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Re: [MBZ] eEuroparts versus Rock Auto

2017-09-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

 I also buy oil on Amazon. Interestingly my VW parts supplier, IDParts, is 
cheaper than Amazon if I buy an oil change kit but more expensive if I just buy 
a jug of oil.
-Curt
On Thursday, September 14, 2017, 3:54:05 PM PDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 I bought a pair of OE Mercedes front rotors and a pair of Akebono pads for my 
W210 from them.  That’s the extent of my business with them.

I had a promo code or coupon I got from them that made the prices slightly 
below what I would normally pay including shipping, so I went with it.  The 
pads came separately from the discs, and the discs were poorly packed but did 
make the trip from Connecticut to Florida intact.  I suspect the distance is 
what did you in on this.

Even without hearing of your experience would I buy from them again?  Most 
likely not.  The only reason I did was due to the coupon I had, otherwise their 
prices weren’t competitive with my dealer discount and other retail 
establishments.

Sorry you had a bad experience.

My parts providers for years in the following order:

Mercedes (dealer)
FCP Euro
Amazon
Rock Auto

Anyone else is a one-time best deal sort of thing.  I try to keep my money with 
the same suppliers for the most part as it builds loyalty (to me) that can have 
a lot of value if there’s a problem.  In many cases I’ll pay more when I buy 
from my dealer, even with my jobber discount and tax, because it’s readily 
available and there’s no question about quality.

After the dealer it’s FCP Euro, who is good, but not great.  They have a lot of 
gaps in their offerings, which I find sort of weird.

Amazon is pretty good for name brand stuff like Lemförder, Bosch and Mann.  I 
can even get Mobil 1 0W-40 in the five quart jug for less than WallWorld sells 
it for, and they deliver it to my front door - that has value in time saved and 
transportation.

I troll Rock Auto for name brand consumables like Mann, which I can often find 
there for less than what I can get it for anywhere else, especially on their 
closeouts.  I scored a set of brand new Sachs rear shocks for the W126 last 
month on closeout - $15/each.  I don’t really need rear shocks, but for that 
kind of money I couldn’t resist.

-D

> On Sep 14, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have never bought anything from eEuroparts. I order primarily from 
> importecautoparts.com, then fcpeuro.com. I order some items from rock auto 
> such as ac compressors. Fcp and rock auto have clearance items sometimes. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A month or two ago, Kaleb posted about a sale at eEuroparts, a new vendor
>> of Mercedes parts. Dan quickly jumped on and reported that he had orderd
>> some parts (brake pads, IIRC).
>> 
>> I then went to their website and ordered parts for the E300D, thinking
>> that they would be a good deal. I was wrong, first on the pricing, and
>> second on the delivery, which was from Connecticut. In addition, some of
>> the parts were wrong.
>> 
>> For example, I ordered the Auto Trans Filter Kit (H2014NKIT). The filter
>> was the correct one, but the gasket was wrong (see picture attached, with
>> the old gasket shown on the right). I ended up using the old gasket.
>> 
>> Then there was the case of the brake pads and brake disks. I received the
>> rear disks first. They came in good condition in their own box inside the
>> larger box. I then received the front disks and pads. The pads, in their
>> own boxes, were placed inside the larger box. The disks, without any
>> other packing, were placed bare in the larger box.
>> 
>> The larger box came apart when FedEx was handling it and caused a shipping
>> exception (delay). When it finally got out here to New Mexico, I found the
>> box had been wrapped with packing tape to keep the contents in. I also
>> found that, indeed, that the box had come apart and that the pad boxes had
>> also had come apart. Pads were missing, the adhesive layer on the rear pad
>> spacers had been contaminated with dirt, lint, and other cruft, and the
>> brake disks had been dinged on the edge.
>> 
>> I sent an email to eEuroparts telling the situation and attached pictures
>> of the box and parts. I had to wait for them to read my email because they
>> had a two-day backlog in reading their emails. The front disks could have
>> been usable, but I decided to return the whole lot. I also asked them to
>> credit my card because we were going to be traveling to Texas and would
>> not be home when the replacements arrived.
>> 
>> That part went like it was supposed to. They emailed a link to a FedEx
>> return label. I repacked the box -- putting the disks inside a strong,
>> smaller box first -- put the label on it, and took it to a FedEx/UPS
>> store about 15 miles west of us in Edgewood. After a while, I got a
>> credit for the full amount on my

Re: [MBZ] eEuroparts versus Rock Auto

2017-09-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

I bought a pair of OE Mercedes front rotors and a pair of Akebono pads for my 
W210 from them.  That’s the extent of my business with them.

I had a promo code or coupon I got from them that made the prices slightly 
below what I would normally pay including shipping, so I went with it.  The 
pads came separately from the discs, and the discs were poorly packed but did 
make the trip from Connecticut to Florida intact.  I suspect the distance is 
what did you in on this.

Even without hearing of your experience would I buy from them again?  Most 
likely not.  The only reason I did was due to the coupon I had, otherwise their 
prices weren’t competitive with my dealer discount and other retail 
establishments.

Sorry you had a bad experience.

My parts providers for years in the following order:

Mercedes (dealer)
FCP Euro
Amazon
Rock Auto

Anyone else is a one-time best deal sort of thing.  I try to keep my money with 
the same suppliers for the most part as it builds loyalty (to me) that can have 
a lot of value if there’s a problem.  In many cases I’ll pay more when I buy 
from my dealer, even with my jobber discount and tax, because it’s readily 
available and there’s no question about quality.

After the dealer it’s FCP Euro, who is good, but not great.  They have a lot of 
gaps in their offerings, which I find sort of weird.

Amazon is pretty good for name brand stuff like Lemförder, Bosch and Mann.  I 
can even get Mobil 1 0W-40 in the five quart jug for less than WallWorld sells 
it for, and they deliver it to my front door - that has value in time saved and 
transportation.

I troll Rock Auto for name brand consumables like Mann, which I can often find 
there for less than what I can get it for anywhere else, especially on their 
closeouts.  I scored a set of brand new Sachs rear shocks for the W126 last 
month on closeout - $15/each.  I don’t really need rear shocks, but for that 
kind of money I couldn’t resist.

-D

> On Sep 14, 2017, at 6:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have never bought anything from eEuroparts. I order primarily from 
> importecautoparts.com, then fcpeuro.com. I order some items from rock auto 
> such as ac compressors. Fcp and rock auto have clearance items sometimes. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A month or two ago, Kaleb posted about a sale at eEuroparts, a new vendor
>> of Mercedes parts. Dan quickly jumped on and reported that he had orderd
>> some parts (brake pads, IIRC).
>> 
>> I then went to their website and ordered parts for the E300D, thinking
>> that they would be a good deal. I was wrong, first on the pricing, and
>> second on the delivery, which was from Connecticut. In addition, some of
>> the parts were wrong.
>> 
>> For example, I ordered the Auto Trans Filter Kit (H2014NKIT). The filter
>> was the correct one, but the gasket was wrong (see picture attached, with
>> the old gasket shown on the right). I ended up using the old gasket.
>> 
>> Then there was the case of the brake pads and brake disks. I received the
>> rear disks first. They came in good condition in their own box inside the
>> larger box. I then received the front disks and pads. The pads, in their
>> own boxes, were placed inside the larger box. The disks, without any
>> other packing, were placed bare in the larger box.
>> 
>> The larger box came apart when FedEx was handling it and caused a shipping
>> exception (delay). When it finally got out here to New Mexico, I found the
>> box had been wrapped with packing tape to keep the contents in. I also
>> found that, indeed, that the box had come apart and that the pad boxes had
>> also had come apart. Pads were missing, the adhesive layer on the rear pad
>> spacers had been contaminated with dirt, lint, and other cruft, and the
>> brake disks had been dinged on the edge.
>> 
>> I sent an email to eEuroparts telling the situation and attached pictures
>> of the box and parts. I had to wait for them to read my email because they
>> had a two-day backlog in reading their emails. The front disks could have
>> been usable, but I decided to return the whole lot. I also asked them to
>> credit my card because we were going to be traveling to Texas and would
>> not be home when the replacements arrived.
>> 
>> That part went like it was supposed to. They emailed a link to a FedEx
>> return label. I repacked the box -- putting the disks inside a strong,
>> smaller box first -- put the label on it, and took it to a FedEx/UPS
>> store about 15 miles west of us in Edgewood. After a while, I got a
>> credit for the full amount on my card.
>> 
>> Since then I have looked at Rock Auto (a place I did not think of as
>> being a primary Mercedes parts source) and compared prices:
>> 
>> eEuroparts   Rock Auto
>> Akebono EUR423 front pads   $56.49  $38.79
>> 
>> Akebono EUR335 rear

Re: [MBZ] eEuroparts versus Rock Auto

2017-09-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:28:01 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I have never bought anything from eEuroparts.

Good. Keep it that way.


> I order primarily from importecautoparts.com, then fcpeuro.com. I order
> some items from rock auto such as ac compressors. Fcp and rock auto
> have clearance items sometimes. 

I got some of the things as manufacturer closeouts in the order I am now
placing.


Craig


> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 14, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > A month or two ago, Kaleb posted about a sale at eEuroparts, a new
> > vendor of Mercedes parts. Dan quickly jumped on and reported that he
> > had orderd some parts (brake pads, IIRC).

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Re: [MBZ] eEuroparts versus Rock Auto

I have never bought anything from eEuroparts. I order primarily from 
importecautoparts.com, then fcpeuro.com. I order some items from rock auto such 
as ac compressors. Fcp and rock auto have clearance items sometimes. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 14, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> A month or two ago, Kaleb posted about a sale at eEuroparts, a new vendor
> of Mercedes parts. Dan quickly jumped on and reported that he had orderd
> some parts (brake pads, IIRC).
> 
> I then went to their website and ordered parts for the E300D, thinking
> that they would be a good deal. I was wrong, first on the pricing, and
> second on the delivery, which was from Connecticut. In addition, some of
> the parts were wrong.
> 
> For example, I ordered the Auto Trans Filter Kit (H2014NKIT). The filter
> was the correct one, but the gasket was wrong (see picture attached, with
> the old gasket shown on the right). I ended up using the old gasket.
> 
> Then there was the case of the brake pads and brake disks. I received the
> rear disks first. They came in good condition in their own box inside the
> larger box. I then received the front disks and pads. The pads, in their
> own boxes, were placed inside the larger box. The disks, without any
> other packing, were placed bare in the larger box.
> 
> The larger box came apart when FedEx was handling it and caused a shipping
> exception (delay). When it finally got out here to New Mexico, I found the
> box had been wrapped with packing tape to keep the contents in. I also
> found that, indeed, that the box had come apart and that the pad boxes had
> also had come apart. Pads were missing, the adhesive layer on the rear pad
> spacers had been contaminated with dirt, lint, and other cruft, and the
> brake disks had been dinged on the edge.
> 
> I sent an email to eEuroparts telling the situation and attached pictures
> of the box and parts. I had to wait for them to read my email because they
> had a two-day backlog in reading their emails. The front disks could have
> been usable, but I decided to return the whole lot. I also asked them to
> credit my card because we were going to be traveling to Texas and would
> not be home when the replacements arrived.
> 
> That part went like it was supposed to. They emailed a link to a FedEx
> return label. I repacked the box -- putting the disks inside a strong,
> smaller box first -- put the label on it, and took it to a FedEx/UPS
> store about 15 miles west of us in Edgewood. After a while, I got a
> credit for the full amount on my card.
> 
> Since then I have looked at Rock Auto (a place I did not think of as
> being a primary Mercedes parts source) and compared prices:
> 
>  eEuroparts   Rock Auto
> Akebono EUR423 front pads   $56.49  $38.79
> 
> Akebono EUR335 rear pads$53.49  $39.79
> 
> Front brake disk (each) $64.49
> (I don't recall the brand)
> 
> Pagid front brake disk (each)   $33.79
>   
> Two sets of pads and 2 disks   $238.96 $146.16
> 
> 
> So, I do not recommend eEuroparts and will not use them again.
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
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[MBZ] OT this is fun to watch

A terrible driver auto-cross event.  Too funny!

http://jalopnik.com/cone-hits-autocross-driver-back-at-solo-nationals-1803784968


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Re: [MBZ] Corvette Was Totaled Because Of One Inch Crack

Here's one for Iowa Curley.
I bet it goes over $50k. 
I watched a flood damaged 2015 S550 with 5000 miles on it go for $60k this 
morning.
 
https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=25910048

https://www.vehiclehistory.com/paging-vin-report-data/new-report.php?vin=1G1YY2D75H5112105

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: BREAKING: Martin Shkreli In Custody After Clinton Comments

Manns patience? Mann's patience?  Man's patience??

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> Further evidence that these are times that try mans patience. On both sides
> of every issue.
>
> Anyone remember when we were civil instead of just vile?
> Hope we can return to the rule of law that is applied to everyone equally.
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> > The question is, why isn't Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal in custody?
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Re: [MBZ] Corvette Was Totaled Because Of One Inch Crack

2017-09-14 Thread as.thompson--- via Mercedes

Don’t forget to stop-drill the ends of the crack before the JB fix.
Addison


On Sep 14, 2017, at 12:24, Andrew wrote:

Nothing that a glop of JB Weld can't fix.
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: BREAKING: Martin Shkreli In Custody After Clinton Comments

2017-09-14 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Further evidence that these are times that try mans patience. On both sides
of every issue.

Anyone remember when we were civil instead of just vile?
Hope we can return to the rule of law that is applied to everyone equally.

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Re: [MBZ] Corvette Was Totaled Because Of One Inch Crack

That's a real shaggy dog story.

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> 2 stories along a similar line -
>
> Back some time in the early 70's I knew a fellow who had a brand new
> Lincoln Town Car. Big boat but quite beautiful. All white inside and out.
> Half vinyl roof and leather upholstery. He was travelling south through
> Wisconsin in late February and a rock rolled down one of the hills along
> the road and out into the road in front of him. I don't know how big it was
> but he ran it over and took out the oil pan and the transmission pan and
> banged up the differential. They wrote it off. I only saw the car once. He
> had just got it.
>
> Much more recently and not nearly so dramatic but last year in the late
> fall I went to pick something up in a suburb north of us and when returning
> home in the 08 Honda Civic, ran over something on the road. It was dark and
> I don't know what it was but it made quite a noise when I hit it. Metallic
> sound like something crunched and then rattled as it came apart. I wondered
> if an alternator had fallen off a car or something like that. It was dark
> and cold and there was a lot of traffic behind me so I did not try to stop
> or to go back to look for whatever it was. I drove the car the rest of the
> way home which would have been another 15 or more miles at highway speeds
> and it did not appear to be harmed in any way. The next day I jacked it up
> and looked under to see if I could detect any damage. I could see a scratch
> on the right side sort of subframe but no real dent in it etc., so I
> assumed I had dodged a bullet of some sort and was happy it had not done
> any real damage.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Corvette Was Totaled Because Of One Inch Crack

2017-09-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


2 stories along a similar line -

Back some time in the early 70's I knew a fellow who had a brand new 
Lincoln Town Car. Big boat but quite beautiful. All white inside and 
out. Half vinyl roof and leather upholstery. He was travelling south 
through Wisconsin in late February and a rock rolled down one of the 
hills along the road and out into the road in front of him. I don't know 
how big it was but he ran it over and took out the oil pan and the 
transmission pan and banged up the differential. They wrote it off. I 
only saw the car once. He had just got it.


Much more recently and not nearly so dramatic but last year in the late 
fall I went to pick something up in a suburb north of us and when 
returning home in the 08 Honda Civic, ran over something on the road. It 
was dark and I don't know what it was but it made quite a noise when I 
hit it. Metallic sound like something crunched and then rattled as it 
came apart. I wondered if an alternator had fallen off a car or 
something like that. It was dark and cold and there was a lot of traffic 
behind me so I did not try to stop or to go back to look for whatever it 
was. I drove the car the rest of the way home which would have been 
another 15 or more miles at highway speeds and it did not appear to be 
harmed in any way. The next day I jacked it up and looked under to see 
if I could detect any damage. I could see a scratch on the right side 
sort of subframe but no real dent in it etc., so I assumed I had dodged 
a bullet of some sort and was happy it had not done any real damage.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] Corvette Was Totaled Because Of One Inch Crack

2017-09-14 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

I owned my last Corvette in 1960. It was a "chic magnet" that had no back
seat [if you can project that concept to conclusion.]  This lack of
engineering impressed me in a number of other ways in the handling and
performance departments.
Sold it, never looked back

I see from this article, Corvette has not changed their engineering focus
and managed to continue to produce expensive plastic flower pots with no
mechanically redeeming qualities.

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> Lame cars at best...
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>   On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:02 AM, OK Don via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Sounds like quality engineering to me . .
> .
>
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/heres-how-a-
> corvette-was-totaled-because-of-one-inch-of-damage/ar-AArTrGs?li=BBnbfcL
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] Corvette Was Totaled Because Of One Inch Crack

I bet a good welder could fix that and you would never even be able to tell

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> Just read this on Jalopnik, I love the comments about repairing with JB
> Weld and duct tape
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Sounds like quality engineering to me . . .
>> 
>> http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/heres-how-a-
>> corvette-was-totaled-because-of-one-inch-of-damage/ar-AArTrGs?li=BBnbfcL
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Re: [MBZ] Corvette Was Totaled Because Of One Inch Crack

2017-09-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Lame cars at best...
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:02 AM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:   Sounds like quality engineering to me . . .

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/heres-how-a-corvette-was-totaled-because-of-one-inch-of-damage/ar-AArTrGs?li=BBnbfcL

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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

2017-09-14 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

Sue you did

-D

> On Sep 14, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> I had fun with that. Manfred and I go way back, although I've yet to meet
> him in person.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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>> No Kidding
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>>> On 14/09/2017 11:49 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Corvette Was Totaled Because Of One Inch Crack

Nothing that a glop of JB Weld can't fix.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Sounds like quality engineering to me . . .
>
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/heres-how-a-
> corvette-was-totaled-because-of-one-inch-of-damage/ar-AArTrGs?li=BBnbfcL
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
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Re: [MBZ] Corvette Was Totaled Because Of One Inch Crack

Just read this on Jalopnik, I love the comments about repairing with JB
Weld and duct tape

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 1:02 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
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> Sounds like quality engineering to me . . .
>
> http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/heres-how-a-
> corvette-was-totaled-because-of-one-inch-of-damage/ar-AArTrGs?li=BBnbfcL
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

I had fun with that. Manfred and I go way back, although I've yet to meet
him in person.

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>
> RB
>
> On 14/09/2017 11:49 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
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>> 
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Cassini Sendoff - Robert Picardo

2017-09-14 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

Weird and wonderful.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Cassini Sendoff - Robert Picardo

http://www.planetary.org/multimedia/video/planetary-post/le-cassini-opera-by-robert-picardo.html

-D
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[MBZ] Corvette Was Totaled Because Of One Inch Crack

2017-09-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

Sounds like quality engineering to me . . .

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/heres-how-a-corvette-was-totaled-because-of-one-inch-of-damage/ar-AArTrGs?li=BBnbfcL

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Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

2017-09-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


No Kidding

RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

2017-09-14 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes



Manfred as in Manfred who is on the list and lives nearby

Oy.

-D

> On Sep 14, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Did Gainesville get whacked too?
> 
> Never heard of Manfred, FL.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Kyle lives outside of Gainesville, if I recall, not far from Manfred.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> > On Sep 14, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Anyone seen or heard from Kyle Arola?  He lives near J'ville IIRC.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Yes, just talked with Manfred, he will update if we can reschedule (maybe
>> >> next Monday).
>> >>
>> >> -
>> >> Max
>> >> Charleston SC
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Meade Dillon 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I suspect this lunch date is postponed?
>> >>>
>> >>> -
>> >>> Max
>> >>> Charleston SC
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:20 PM, MG via Mercedes 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>>  Sounds good to me then. We should be there some time between 11 and
>> >> 11:30
>>  on the 14th then.
>> 
>>  MG
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

Did Gainesville get whacked too?

Never heard of Manfred, FL.



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> Kyle lives outside of Gainesville, if I recall, not far from Manfred.
>
> -D
>
> > On Sep 14, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone seen or heard from Kyle Arola?  He lives near J'ville IIRC.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, just talked with Manfred, he will update if we can reschedule
> (maybe
> >> next Monday).
> >>
> >> -
> >> Max
> >> Charleston SC
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Meade Dillon 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I suspect this lunch date is postponed?
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>> Max
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:20 PM, MG via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Sounds good to me then. We should be there some time between 11 and
> >> 11:30
>  on the 14th then.
> 
>  MG
> 
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[MBZ] 1964 BMW R27 bike on BAT

I drove a similar silver R26 my senior year in college.  Great machine!
Wonder what this will bring.  The owner did an extensive restoration.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-bmw-r-27/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2017-09-14
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Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

2017-09-14 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

Kyle lives outside of Gainesville, if I recall, not far from Manfred.

-D

> On Sep 14, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> Anyone seen or heard from Kyle Arola?  He lives near J'ville IIRC.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, just talked with Manfred, he will update if we can reschedule (maybe
>> next Monday).
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Meade Dillon 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I suspect this lunch date is postponed?
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:20 PM, MG via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Sounds good to me then. We should be there some time between 11 and
>> 11:30
 on the 14th then.
 
 MG
 
 
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[MBZ] FL Keys: video of Irma devastation

Strikingly similar to the impacts of a major tornado.  People have
literally lost everything.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/local/weather/fema-surveys-florida-keys-after-hurricane-irma-destruction/2017/09/13/41bb370c-989d-11e7-af6a-6555caaeb8dc_video.html?utm_term=.794d4c997a41=nl_energy202=1
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[MBZ] More bad news for Rich and others in the Palmetto state

V.C. Summer owners accused of using doomed reactors as 'cash cow'Published:
Thursday, September 14, 2017

The latest in a string of lawsuits filed by ratepayers against SCANA Corp.
and Santee Cooper accuses the utilities of charging customers higher
monthly bills to pay for the construction of nuclear reactors even after
the project had become hopelessly inviable.

Some $1.7 billion was collected from ratepayers in South Carolina for the
V.C. Summer project, which was scrapped on July 31. Well before that date,
alleges the suit, the companies knew the reactors would never be built but
went on billing customers "fictitious costs" for a "fictitious project."

It also references a February 2016 report, commissioned by the utilities
and recently made public by South Carolina Gov. Henry McMaster (R), citing
basic insufficiencies with planning designs.

The suit is one of at least five brought in South Carolina courts against
either or both SCANA and Santee Cooper seeking class-action status on
behalf of hundreds of thousands of ratepayers (John Monk, Columbia [S.C.]
*State* ,
Sept. 12
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Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

Anyone seen or heard from Kyle Arola?  He lives near J'ville IIRC.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes, just talked with Manfred, he will update if we can reschedule (maybe
> next Monday).
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Meade Dillon 
> wrote:
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> > I suspect this lunch date is postponed?
> >
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> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:20 PM, MG via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds good to me then. We should be there some time between 11 and
> 11:30
> >> on the 14th then.
> >>
> >> MG
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

Yes, just talked with Manfred, he will update if we can reschedule (maybe
next Monday).

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Meade Dillon  wrote:

> I suspect this lunch date is postponed?
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:20 PM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds good to me then. We should be there some time between 11 and 11:30
>> on the 14th then.
>>
>> MG
>>
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT; Trip up I-95

I suspect this lunch date is postponed?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 6:20 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Sounds good to me then. We should be there some time between 11 and 11:30
> on the 14th then.
>
> MG
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bluetooth security flaw

2017-09-14 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes


Can you turn off blutec on your computer?

Does blutec have a security flaw?

--R


On 9/13/17 7:02 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On September 13, 2017 at 6:32 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:


You should be able to disable Bluetooth in the laptop bios.

Ditch the chebbies, drive old Mercedes...

I've been looking for E250 blutecs at the salvage auctions, but only found one 
so far and it was not worth saving.
I was looking at a 2010 S550 4x4 today, but bought the Chebby that was two cars 
in front of it in the sale and didn't even see what the 550 sold for. That 
makes two Cruzes in the last month. I'm hoping to make enough off the red 2016 
to make up for overpaying on the gray 2017. It'll be interesting to see what I 
can sell the red one for with a rebuilt title and no factory warranty.
https://www.copart.com/lot/36322557

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Re: [MBZ] 1979 MERCEDES 123 D, 19003246 | IAA-Insurance Auto Auctions

2017-09-14 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Very.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 13, 2017 8:18:34 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
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>https://www.iaai.com/Vehicle?itemID=25959678=0
>
>How rare,is,this?
>
>
>Dwight Giles Jr.
>1982 300CD
>2005 E320 4matic
>Wickford RI
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[MBZ] didnt somebody want one of these?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-RIV-Transmitter-W-617-589-08-21-00-Injection-Pump-Timing-Diesels-/322741857683?hash=item4b24e9ed93:g:xmoAAOSwEzxYa7r2


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: BREAKING: Martin Shkreli In Custody After Clinton Comments