Re: [MBZ] Kalling Kaleb

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curley wrote:

> A 240d Kaleb car
> 
> But may be solid enough to resurrect.
> 
> https://neworleans.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-240d/6485435233.html

Hmm.

 "...clean Wisconsin title"

 "Never seen salt or snow, besides the tiny amount we had down here. [in New 
Orleans]"

I'd take it and take the chance.  But I'm not sure I could afford
to _get_ it even if it "sold" for zero.

Kaleb's 240d is closer  Guess he's not ready to just get rid
of it yet.

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Re: [MBZ] Kalling Kaleb

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 22:37:52 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> A 240d Kaleb car
> 
> But may be solid enough to resurrect.
> 
> https://neworleans.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-240d/6485435233.html


Northern California car ... clean Wisconsin title

valves need to be adjusted ... needs ether to start when cold

will need new glow plugs ... currently running off vegetable oil


U .


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[MBZ] Kalling Kaleb

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

A 240d Kaleb car

But may be solid enough to resurrect.

https://neworleans.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-240d/6485435233.html

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Re: [MBZ] CL idiot

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 19:29:59 -0800 clay monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I like when there is an ask for a high end item.   As if somebody is
> going to willingly part with a new laptop or other pretty recent
> item.   I guess it never hurts to try, but I have not seen anybody
> actually respond.

I know the instructions for the Los Alamos group said to not do that.

I do see it time to time in the Albuquerque group.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] CL idiot

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

FREECYCLE in my area is very picky.  Folks ask for specific items and
emphasize that whatever they get MUST be in excellent condition.

And there is some great stuff on offers.  I got a waffle maker.  I also
gave away a breadmaker and juicer.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:29 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes <
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> I like when there is an ask for a high end item.   As if somebody is going
> to willingly part with a new laptop or other pretty recent item.   I guess
> it never hurts to try, but I have not seen anybody actually respond.
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > FreeCycle used to be a good place to get stuff.  I was the local group
> admin and everyone was on moderation, so I got to see the offerings first.
> For the most part I didn’t jump on stuff before it posted, but I will admit
> to doing it a couple of times.  One time was for an i7 processor, 12GB of
> RAM, a couple of optical drives and some other computer stuff.  The offerer
> was a hard core gamer and this was "old stuff” for him.
> >
> > Got a really nice shop vac that hangs in a rack on the wall with all the
> attachments.  Didn’t snipe that one, jut saw it come across and offered to
> take it.  Everyone else must have been sleeping.
> >
> > Got a bread maker, too.
> >
> > After a few years it just got to be junky stuff.  I bailed after being a
> group mod for 5 years.  I did my time.
> >
> > -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

And if you are losing power going uphill you need to CHANGE YOUR MAIN FUEL
FILTER.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 8:42 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I averaged 28mpg on 2 different cars over about 100,000 miles.
> -Curt
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 7:11:33 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  What does a 240d normally get?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 21, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > LOL, my '85 190D would just barely best 43mpg and I never once adjusted
> the valves ;)
> > Best I ever did with a 240D was 32mpg. My Jetta regularly hits 55mpg.
> I'd sure like to find another gen3 Jetta that isn't all rusted out...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 5:53:02 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> > On 21/02/2018 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >> What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a
> long time?
> >>
> >> I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I
> already thought.
> >> -Curt
> >> ___
> >
> > AND, I have it on reliable authority, that properly adjusted valves are
> > ABSOLUTELY necessary in order to consistently get over 40 MPG with these
> > wonderful million mile engines.
> >
> > RB (with tongue firmly in cheek!)
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Re: [MBZ] CL idiot

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I like when there is an ask for a high end item.   As if somebody is going to 
willingly part with a new laptop or other pretty recent item.   I guess it 
never hurts to try, but I have not seen anybody actually respond.

clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
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> On Feb 21, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> FreeCycle used to be a good place to get stuff.  I was the local group admin 
> and everyone was on moderation, so I got to see the offerings first.  For the 
> most part I didn’t jump on stuff before it posted, but I will admit to doing 
> it a couple of times.  One time was for an i7 processor, 12GB of RAM, a 
> couple of optical drives and some other computer stuff.  The offerer was a 
> hard core gamer and this was "old stuff” for him.
> 
> Got a really nice shop vac that hangs in a rack on the wall with all the 
> attachments.  Didn’t snipe that one, jut saw it come across and offered to 
> take it.  Everyone else must have been sleeping.
> 
> Got a bread maker, too.
> 
> After a few years it just got to be junky stuff.  I bailed after being a 
> group mod for 5 years.  I did my time.
> 
> -D


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Re: [MBZ] CL idiot

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 21 Feb 2018 20:28:08 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> FreeCycle used to be a good place to get stuff.

I got many things from the Los Alamos freecycle group and gave many
things away. It is a good group.

Santa Fe, and particularly Albuquerque, are not-quite-so-good groups.

It helps to have an affluent community ...


> After a few years it just got to be junky stuff.

That's too bad. Do you still monitor it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Park next door and walk over in those juris-dick-shuns.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I averaged 28mpg on 2 different cars over about 100,000 miles.
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 7:11:33 PM EST, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 What does a 240d normally get?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> LOL, my '85 190D would just barely best 43mpg and I never once adjusted the 
> valves ;)
> Best I ever did with a 240D was 32mpg. My Jetta regularly hits 55mpg. I'd 
> sure like to find another gen3 Jetta that isn't all rusted out...
> -Curt
> 
> 
>    On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 5:53:02 PM EST, Randy Bennell via 
>Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> On 21/02/2018 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long 
>> time?
>> 
>> I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already 
>> thought.
>> -Curt
>> ___
> 
> AND, I have it on reliable authority, that properly adjusted valves are 
> ABSOLUTELY necessary in order to consistently get over 40 MPG with these 
> wonderful million mile engines.
> 
> RB (with tongue firmly in cheek!)
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Re: [MBZ] CL idiot

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

FreeCycle used to be a good place to get stuff.  I was the local group admin 
and everyone was on moderation, so I got to see the offerings first.  For the 
most part I didn’t jump on stuff before it posted, but I will admit to doing it 
a couple of times.  One time was for an i7 processor, 12GB of RAM, a couple of 
optical drives and some other computer stuff.  The offerer was a hard core 
gamer and this was "old stuff” for him.

Got a really nice shop vac that hangs in a rack on the wall with all the 
attachments.  Didn’t snipe that one, jut saw it come across and offered to take 
it.  Everyone else must have been sleeping.

Got a bread maker, too.

After a few years it just got to be junky stuff.  I bailed after being a group 
mod for 5 years.  I did my time.

-D

 
> On Feb 21, 2018, at 5:30 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The free section of craigslist is amusing, most of it is garbage that people 
> are trying to not have to pay to get rid of.
> I have gotten some scores, a whole bunch of firewood for instance...
> -Curt
> 
> 
>On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 4:40:36 PM EST, clay monroe via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Guy posts on CL free section for MB parts, then expects payment.
> 
> what year and model car? you oughta look it up first to see compatibility on 
> much of this...
> 
> So for trade this is what these items go for minimum on eBay:
> 
> cowls $30 equivalent
> antenna $100 equivalent (I'll give 2)- they list for $250 
> 4 door interior $100 equivalent
> high pressure oil coolant line $50 equivalent
> 4 door set moldings exterior 
> 
> you got something worth $400 ish for trade? 
> 
> or maybe want to offer some $ for major cash discount 
> 
> the rest of the miscilllaneous stuff you can have 
> 
> 
> I'll probably keep the heater blower
> 
> 
> I advised him to probably post it to Auto parts instead of the bait and switch
> 
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
> 
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe Floyd is swapping his CD for the cab as we type, beat us both to the 
punch...
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On February 21, 2018 7:27:21 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>Waiting for the guy to get back to me.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 21, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Traded for a cabriolet?  I can't believe you're passing on that.  I'm
>tempted to buy a nice 240D and drive out there to swap it.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>>> On February 21, 2018 7:16:55 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 February 21, 2018 at 6:11 PM
 What does a 240d normally get?
>>> Left in the shed.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe Floyd is swapping his CD for the cab as we type, beat us both to the 
punch...
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 21, 2018 7:27:21 PM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>Waiting for the guy to get back to me.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 21, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Traded for a cabriolet?  I can't believe you're passing on that.  I'm
>tempted to buy a nice 240D and drive out there to swap it.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>>> On February 21, 2018 7:16:55 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 February 21, 2018 at 6:11 PM
 What does a 240d normally get?
>>> Left in the shed.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Waiting for the guy to get back to me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Traded for a cabriolet?  I can't believe you're passing on that.  I'm tempted 
> to buy a nice 240D and drive out there to swap it.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On February 21, 2018 7:16:55 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> February 21, 2018 at 6:11 PM
>>> What does a 240d normally get?
>> Left in the shed.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Traded for a cabriolet?  I can't believe you're passing on that.  I'm tempted 
to buy a nice 240D and drive out there to swap it.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

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>
>
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> February 21, 2018 at 6:11 PM
>> What does a 240d normally get?
>Left in the shed.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

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Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
February 21, 2018 at 6:11 PM
What does a 240d normally get?

Left in the shed.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The adjuster pucks do wear out though.  Then you get one valve that stops 
behaving.  Replace the offending adjuster thing and it gets better.  Or, since 
you are in there, may as well do them all.


clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Feb 21, 2018, at 4:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep, and on the engines you mention, check to see if they are hydraulic 
> valves (don't need adjustment)  or mechanical, that will need adjustment.
> 
> I've run OM603s hundtreds of thousands of miles and NEVER adjusted the 
> valves!  ('cause they are hydraulic and don't need to be adjusted)
> 
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> February 21, 2018 at 5:21 PM
>> An '85 190D has hydraulic compensators (lifters) that don't require routine 
>> adjustment.
>> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> February 21, 2018 at 5:10 PM
>> LOL, my '85 190D would just barely best 43mpg and I never once adjusted the 
>> valves ;)
>> Best I ever did with a 240D was 32mpg. My Jetta regularly hits 55mpg. I'd 
>> sure like to find another gen3 Jetta that isn't all rusted out...
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

What does a 240d normally get?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2018, at 5:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> LOL, my '85 190D would just barely best 43mpg and I never once adjusted the 
> valves ;)
> Best I ever did with a 240D was 32mpg. My Jetta regularly hits 55mpg. I'd 
> sure like to find another gen3 Jetta that isn't all rusted out...
> -Curt
> 
> 
>On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 5:53:02 PM EST, Randy Bennell via 
> Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> On 21/02/2018 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long 
>> time?
>> 
>> I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already 
>> thought.
>> -Curt
>> ___
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> ABSOLUTELY necessary in order to consistently get over 40 MPG with these 
> wonderful million mile engines.
> 
> RB (with tongue firmly in cheek!)
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yep, and on the engines you mention, check to see if they are hydraulic 
valves (don't need adjustment)  or mechanical, that will need adjustment.


I've run OM603s hundtreds of thousands of miles and NEVER adjusted the 
valves!  ('cause they are hydraulic and don't need to be adjusted)



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
February 21, 2018 at 5:21 PM
An '85 190D has hydraulic compensators (lifters) that don't require 
routine adjustment.

Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
February 21, 2018 at 5:10 PM
LOL, my '85 190D would just barely best 43mpg and I never once 
adjusted the valves ;)
Best I ever did with a 240D was 32mpg. My Jetta regularly hits 55mpg. 
I'd sure like to find another gen3 Jetta that isn't all rusted out...

-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

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Hard to start, poor performance, it just sort of feels wrong?

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> On Feb 21, 2018, at 2:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long time?
> 
> I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already 
> thought.
> -Curt
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yeah it runs good once its warmed up. It idles like crap when it first starts 
if I haven't been using the block heater which I think is added confirmation.
4.5L 4 cylinder, big motor. Almost 1000#...
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 6:24:01 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 My understanding is that the valve adjustment generally gets too tight 
rather than too loose. Too tight means that the valves don't close all 
the way when they are cold. Once warmed up they likely expand a bit and 
close better so the motor will run not too badly once it warms up but is 
difficult to start when cold because the valves leak and reduce the 
compression that is needed to get a diesel going. (Boy - how is that for 
a run-on sentence?)

RB

On 21/02/2018 5:19 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Okay cool you guys said what I expected.
> So the ASV 
> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4647/25670161128_33cf875d50_b.jpgstarts wicked 
> hard in the cold, even at like 20F. Its got 2x grp 49 batteries (parallel, so 
> 12v) that it can run right down to nothing. I can get it to start by running 
> the block heater but it takes a couple hours at 1500w(!) to get the engine 
> warm enough. In a pinch I've found running my heat gun into the air intake 
> until the whole filter can is warm to the touch (about 15 minutes again at 
> 1500w) will do the job but its still a bit of a struggle.
> When its not starting it doesn't even pop. I think Kaleb's hit the nail on 
> the head for low compression.Fortunately specs for a John Deere 4045T are 
> easy to find. Need to stop at the JD dealer to get a valve cover gasket.
> I asked the guys about it and got "Waddya mean set the valves?" They've had 
> the machine like 10 years. Probably should do the Pisten Bully too, they've 
> had that 18 years...
> -Curt
>  
>
>      On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 5:45:39 PM EST, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
>  
>  What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long 
>time?
>
> I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already 
> thought.
> -Curt
>    
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yup - like the others said - classic sign of valves that need to be
adjusted. Why they go to tighter clearance instead of looser I have no idea
- but I usually found both loose and tight valves when I adjusted them on
OM615, 616 and 617 engines.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Okay cool you guys said what I expected.
> So the ASV https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4647/25670161128_33cf875d50_b.
> jpgstarts wicked hard in the cold, even at like 20F. Its got 2x grp 49
> batteries (parallel, so 12v) that it can run right down to nothing. I can
> get it to start by running the block heater but it takes a couple hours at
> 1500w(!) to get the engine warm enough. In a pinch I've found running my
> heat gun into the air intake until the whole filter can is warm to the
> touch (about 15 minutes again at 1500w) will do the job but its still a bit
> of a struggle.
> When its not starting it doesn't even pop. I think Kaleb's hit the nail on
> the head for low compression.Fortunately specs for a John Deere 4045T are
> easy to find. Need to stop at the JD dealer to get a valve cover gasket.
> I asked the guys about it and got "Waddya mean set the valves?" They've
> had the machine like 10 years. Probably should do the Pisten Bully too,
> they've had that 18 years...
> -Curt
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 5:45:39 PM EST, Curt Raymond <
> curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long
> time?
>
> I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already
> thought.
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Was your 85 an OM 601 engine? The 60x engines are hydraulic lifters not
push rods like the om61x. Right?

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Feb 21, 2018 6:10 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
wrote:

LOL, my '85 190D would just barely best 43mpg and I never once adjusted the
valves ;)
Best I ever did with a 240D was 32mpg. My Jetta regularly hits 55mpg. I'd
sure like to find another gen3 Jetta that isn't all rusted out...
-Curt


On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 5:53:02 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
Mercedes  wrote:

 On 21/02/2018 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long
time?
>
> I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I
already thought.
> -Curt
> ___

AND, I have it on reliable authority, that properly adjusted valves are
ABSOLUTELY necessary in order to consistently get over 40 MPG with these
wonderful million mile engines.

RB (with tongue firmly in cheek!)

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

These are the jokes kid...


-Curt
 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 6:21:53 PM EST, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 An '85 190D has hydraulic compensators (lifters) that don't require routine 
adjustment.
-- 
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'95 E300

On February 21, 2018 6:10:08 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>LOL, my '85 190D would just barely best 43mpg and I never once adjusted
>the valves ;)
>Best I ever did with a 240D was 32mpg. My Jetta regularly hits 55mpg.
>I'd sure like to find another gen3 Jetta that isn't all rusted out...
>-Curt
> 
>
>On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 5:53:02 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
>Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> On 21/02/2018 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a
>long time?
>>
>> I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I
>already thought.
>> -Curt
>> ___
>
>AND, I have it on reliable authority, that properly adjusted valves are
>
>ABSOLUTELY necessary in order to consistently get over 40 MPG with
>these 
>wonderful million mile engines.
>
>RB (with tongue firmly in cheek!)
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

My understanding is that the valve adjustment generally gets too tight 
rather than too loose. Too tight means that the valves don't close all 
the way when they are cold. Once warmed up they likely expand a bit and 
close better so the motor will run not too badly once it warms up but is 
difficult to start when cold because the valves leak and reduce the 
compression that is needed to get a diesel going. (Boy - how is that for 
a run-on sentence?)


RB

On 21/02/2018 5:19 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Okay cool you guys said what I expected.
So the ASV 
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4647/25670161128_33cf875d50_b.jpgstarts wicked 
hard in the cold, even at like 20F. Its got 2x grp 49 batteries (parallel, so 
12v) that it can run right down to nothing. I can get it to start by running 
the block heater but it takes a couple hours at 1500w(!) to get the engine warm 
enough. In a pinch I've found running my heat gun into the air intake until the 
whole filter can is warm to the touch (about 15 minutes again at 1500w) will do 
the job but its still a bit of a struggle.
When its not starting it doesn't even pop. I think Kaleb's hit the nail on the 
head for low compression.Fortunately specs for a John Deere 4045T are easy to 
find. Need to stop at the JD dealer to get a valve cover gasket.
I asked the guys about it and got "Waddya mean set the valves?" They've had the 
machine like 10 years. Probably should do the Pisten Bully too, they've had that 18 
years...
-Curt
  


 On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 5:45:39 PM EST, Curt Raymond 
 wrote:
  
  What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long time?


I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already 
thought.
-Curt
   




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[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes that too. Also need to adjust valves to keep blinker fluid clear

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 21, 2018 6:09 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I think Dwight and Randy have pretty much nailed it.  I'd add increased
> smoke and lower mpg.
> --
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> '95 E300
>
> On February 21, 2018 5:45:39 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a
> >long time?
> >
> >I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I
> >already thought.
> >-Curt
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

An '85 190D has hydraulic compensators (lifters) that don't require routine 
adjustment.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 21, 2018 6:10:08 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>LOL, my '85 190D would just barely best 43mpg and I never once adjusted
>the valves ;)
>Best I ever did with a 240D was 32mpg. My Jetta regularly hits 55mpg.
>I'd sure like to find another gen3 Jetta that isn't all rusted out...
>-Curt
> 
>
>On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 5:53:02 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
>Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> On 21/02/2018 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a
>long time?
>>
>> I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I
>already thought.
>> -Curt
>> ___
>
>AND, I have it on reliable authority, that properly adjusted valves are
>
>ABSOLUTELY necessary in order to consistently get over 40 MPG with
>these 
>wonderful million mile engines.
>
>RB (with tongue firmly in cheek!)
>
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Okay cool you guys said what I expected.
So the ASV 
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4647/25670161128_33cf875d50_b.jpgstarts wicked 
hard in the cold, even at like 20F. Its got 2x grp 49 batteries (parallel, so 
12v) that it can run right down to nothing. I can get it to start by running 
the block heater but it takes a couple hours at 1500w(!) to get the engine warm 
enough. In a pinch I've found running my heat gun into the air intake until the 
whole filter can is warm to the touch (about 15 minutes again at 1500w) will do 
the job but its still a bit of a struggle.
When its not starting it doesn't even pop. I think Kaleb's hit the nail on the 
head for low compression.Fortunately specs for a John Deere 4045T are easy to 
find. Need to stop at the JD dealer to get a valve cover gasket.
I asked the guys about it and got "Waddya mean set the valves?" They've had the 
machine like 10 years. Probably should do the Pisten Bully too, they've had 
that 18 years...
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 5:45:39 PM EST, Curt Raymond 
 wrote:  
 
 What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long time?

I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already 
thought.
-Curt
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Dr Booth said that every cold weather cold start was,a compression test.
Need  valves adjusted not to lose compression.
So Curt what is your reveal?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Feb 21, 2018 5:47 PM, "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Well, most of you folks have much more experience with this sort of thing
> than I do, but I will chime in anyway.
> My 115 300D got to where it was unwilling to start when it was cold out.
> Adjusting the valves fixed that problem and I believe it sounded smoother
> after as well.
>
> RB
>
>
> On 21/02/2018 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long
>> time?
>>
>> I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I
>> already thought.
>> -Curt
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On 21/02/2018 5:08 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I think Dwight and Randy have pretty much nailed it.  I'd add increased smoke 
and lower mpg.


I was thinking the mileage improved as well but couldn't recall for 
certain as I got a bit lazy with my record keeping. I was keeping 
records of fuel usage  on the car as well as my truck on a spreadsheet, 
but I have fallen behind. Now I just have a pile of receipts with 
mileage numbers written on them.


RB


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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

LOL, my '85 190D would just barely best 43mpg and I never once adjusted the 
valves ;)
Best I ever did with a 240D was 32mpg. My Jetta regularly hits 55mpg. I'd sure 
like to find another gen3 Jetta that isn't all rusted out...
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 5:53:02 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On 21/02/2018 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long time?
>
> I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already 
> thought.
> -Curt
> ___

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ABSOLUTELY necessary in order to consistently get over 40 MPG with these 
wonderful million mile engines.

RB (with tongue firmly in cheek!)

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Low compression hard to start because they are hanging open

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> On Feb 21, 2018, at 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long time?
> 
> I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already 
> thought.
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I think Dwight and Randy have pretty much nailed it.  I'd add increased smoke 
and lower mpg.
-- 
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On February 21, 2018 5:45:39 PM EST, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a
>long time?
>
>I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I
>already thought.
>-Curt
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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 21/02/2018 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long time?

I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already 
thought.
-Curt
___


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ABSOLUTELY necessary in order to consistently get over 40 MPG with these 
wonderful million mile engines.


RB (with tongue firmly in cheek!)

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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 21/02/2018 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long time?

I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already 
thought.
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Might be wishful thinking on my part but I also thought it seemed to run 
smoother at higher speeds.


RB


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[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Well, most of you folks have much more experience with this sort of 
thing than I do, but I will chime in anyway.
My 115 300D got to where it was unwilling to start when it was cold out. 
Adjusting the valves fixed that problem and I believe it sounded 
smoother after as well.


RB


On 21/02/2018 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long time?

I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already 
thought.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Hard starting.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long
> time?
>
> I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already
> thought.
> -Curt
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[MBZ] OT: Check my thinking on something

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

What are the symptoms of not adjusting the valves on a diesel for a long time?

I'll explain in a bit after you guys either confirm or deny what I already 
thought.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] CL idiot

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The free section of craigslist is amusing, most of it is garbage that people 
are trying to not have to pay to get rid of.
I have gotten some scores, a whole bunch of firewood for instance...
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 4:40:36 PM EST, clay monroe via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Guy posts on CL free section for MB parts, then expects payment.

what year and model car? you oughta look it up first to see compatibility on 
much of this...

So for trade this is what these items go for minimum on eBay:

cowls $30 equivalent
antenna $100 equivalent (I'll give 2)- they list for $250 
4 door interior $100 equivalent
high pressure oil coolant line $50 equivalent
4 door set moldings exterior 

you got something worth $400 ish for trade? 

or maybe want to offer some $ for major cash discount 

the rest of the miscilllaneous stuff you can have 


I'll probably keep the heater blower


I advised him to probably post it to Auto parts instead of the bait and switch



clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
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[MBZ] CL idiot

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Guy posts on CL free section for MB parts, then expects payment.

what year and model car? you oughta look it up first to see compatibility on 
much of this...

So for trade this is what these items go for minimum on eBay:

cowls $30 equivalent
antenna $100 equivalent (I'll give 2)- they list for $250 
4 door interior $100 equivalent
high pressure oil coolant line $50 equivalent
4 door set moldings exterior 

you got something worth $400 ish for trade? 

or maybe want to offer some $ for major cash discount 

the rest of the miscilllaneous stuff you can have 


I'll probably keep the heater blower


I advised him to probably post it to Auto parts instead of the bait and switch



clay 

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







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Re: [MBZ] Oh my!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Replace it with a Mega-squirt unit.
It's too bad that the great looking paint is such an ugly color - - -

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>
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> > On Feb 20, 2018, at 11:27 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> >
> > AND it is before the Crapsler ACC!  THAT is a HUGE plus!
> >
> >> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> >> February 20, 2018 at 8:51 PM
> >> 1973 Mercedes 450se
> >>
> >> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/1973-mercedes-450se/
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Having experienced both, you're wrong. MD is terminally infected by its 
proximity to DC. "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and 
villainy."
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 10:58:39 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote:  
 
 Curt - MD is  marginally more humane than MA.  By about 10 percent.
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

In my experience public servants are generally jerks. They've got a little 
power and love to use it. I forgot to renew the registration on the Ranger one 
time, Angie got pulled over for expired tags about 2 miles from our house. She 
had a totally clean license, the cop had the truck towed rather than just 
letting her go home and get a different car. Cost us nearly $500 when it was 
all done with.
For what? What level of public safety was increased by making my wife cry while 
her car was towed?
-Curt


    On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 10:25:43 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:

 That is a d*ck move if I ever heard one.  Our public servants are actually 
pretty good about stuff like this.  Like when I go to the Tax Collector (DMV) 
and they tell me how to do something to save myself a buck.  Example, when I 
moved back into the state since I had a license plate that hadn’t been turned 
in I was able to use that registration to skip paying a $225.00 administrative 
fee for bringing a car in from out of state.

That saved me $675.00 when I moved back here.

Glad I don’t live in MD.

-D


> On Feb 21, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>
> That's good customer service. Around here, people  who drive their 
> unregistered or expired tag cars to DMV to get the necessary documents or 
> plates are routinely ticketed in the DMV parking lots.
>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 6:10 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  > wrote:
> Any car brought in from out of state has to have the VIN verified when it is 
> registered. It can be done by a Florida Notary Public, Licensed Dealer, 
> Police Officer, or Florida Division of Motorist Services Employee or Tax 
> Collector Employee. No fee involved, just fill out a form, inspect the 
> vehicle and sign off.
>
> I have a good friend and neighbor who is an attorney that I usually hit up to 
> do this, but we’ve got a new community service officer (CSO) and this gave me 
> a chance to meet him.  Plus it also meant I didn’t have to drive the car the 
> 3-4 blocks to go to my friend’s house, since it’s not currently registered.  
> I just called up our local sheriff’s substation and had them put the call 
> into his rotation.  It’s a courtesy thing that LEO will do around here as 
> time permits.
>
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I just got pulled over a little while ago. I was literally in the middle of 
nowhere and did not have the cruise set like normal and was going a little 
fast. I got a laugh out of him asking me what was wrong with my car. I told him 
it was a diesel. He just told me to slow down and off I went.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 21, 2018, at 9:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In my experience public servants are generally jerks. They've got a little 
> power and love to use it. I forgot to renew the registration on the Ranger 
> one time, Angie got pulled over for expired tags about 2 miles from our 
> house. She had a totally clean license, the cop had the truck towed rather 
> than just letting her go home and get a different car. Cost us nearly $500 
> when it was all done with.
> For what? What level of public safety was increased by making my wife cry 
> while her car was towed?
> -Curt
> 
> 
>On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 10:25:43 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> That is a d*ck move if I ever heard one.  Our public servants are actually 
> pretty good about stuff like this.  Like when I go to the Tax Collector (DMV) 
> and they tell me how to do something to save myself a buck.  Example, when I 
> moved back into the state since I had a license plate that hadn’t been turned 
> in I was able to use that registration to skip paying a $225.00 
> administrative fee for bringing a car in from out of state.
> 
> That saved me $675.00 when I moved back here.
> 
> Glad I don’t live in MD.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That's good customer service. Around here, people  who drive their 
>> unregistered or expired tag cars to DMV to get the necessary documents or 
>> plates are routinely ticketed in the DMV parking lots.
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 6:10 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> > wrote:
>> Any car brought in from out of state has to have the VIN verified when it is 
>> registered. It can be done by a Florida Notary Public, Licensed Dealer, 
>> Police Officer, or Florida Division of Motorist Services Employee or Tax 
>> Collector Employee. No fee involved, just fill out a form, inspect the 
>> vehicle and sign off.
>> 
>> I have a good friend and neighbor who is an attorney that I usually hit up 
>> to do this, but we’ve got a new community service officer (CSO) and this 
>> gave me a chance to meet him.  Plus it also meant I didn’t have to drive the 
>> car the 3-4 blocks to go to my friend’s house, since it’s not currently 
>> registered.  I just called up our local sheriff’s substation and had them 
>> put the call into his rotation.  It’s a courtesy thing that LEO will do 
>> around here as time permits.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Curt - MD is  marginally more humane than MA.  By about 10 percent.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In my experience public servants are generally jerks. They've got a little
> power and love to use it. I forgot to renew the registration on the Ranger
> one time, Angie got pulled over for expired tags about 2 miles from our
> house. She had a totally clean license, the cop had the truck towed rather
> than just letting her go home and get a different car. Cost us nearly $500
> when it was all done with.
> For what? What level of public safety was increased by making my wife cry
> while her car was towed?
> -Curt
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 10:25:43 AM EST, Dan Penoff via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  That is a d*ck move if I ever heard one.  Our public servants are
> actually pretty good about stuff like this.  Like when I go to the Tax
> Collector (DMV) and they tell me how to do something to save myself a
> buck.  Example, when I moved back into the state since I had a license
> plate that hadn’t been turned in I was able to use that registration to
> skip paying a $225.00 administrative fee for bringing a car in from out of
> state.
>
> That saved me $675.00 when I moved back here.
>
> Glad I don’t live in MD.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 21, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > That's good customer service. Around here, people  who drive their
> unregistered or expired tag cars to DMV to get the necessary documents or
> plates are routinely ticketed in the DMV parking lots.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 6:10 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Any car brought in from out of state has to have the VIN verified when
> it is registered. It can be done by a Florida Notary Public, Licensed
> Dealer, Police Officer, or Florida Division of Motorist Services Employee
> or Tax Collector Employee. No fee involved, just fill out a form, inspect
> the vehicle and sign off.
> >
> > I have a good friend and neighbor who is an attorney that I usually hit
> up to do this, but we’ve got a new community service officer (CSO) and this
> gave me a chance to meet him.  Plus it also meant I didn’t have to drive
> the car the 3-4 blocks to go to my friend’s house, since it’s not currently
> registered.  I just called up our local sheriff’s substation and had them
> put the call into his rotation.  It’s a courtesy thing that LEO will do
> around here as time permits.
> >
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

In my experience public servants are generally jerks. They've got a little 
power and love to use it. I forgot to renew the registration on the Ranger one 
time, Angie got pulled over for expired tags about 2 miles from our house. She 
had a totally clean license, the cop had the truck towed rather than just 
letting her go home and get a different car. Cost us nearly $500 when it was 
all done with.
For what? What level of public safety was increased by making my wife cry while 
her car was towed?
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 10:25:43 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 That is a d*ck move if I ever heard one.  Our public servants are actually 
pretty good about stuff like this.  Like when I go to the Tax Collector (DMV) 
and they tell me how to do something to save myself a buck.  Example, when I 
moved back into the state since I had a license plate that hadn’t been turned 
in I was able to use that registration to skip paying a $225.00 administrative 
fee for bringing a car in from out of state.

That saved me $675.00 when I moved back here.

Glad I don’t live in MD.

-D


> On Feb 21, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> That's good customer service. Around here, people  who drive their 
> unregistered or expired tag cars to DMV to get the necessary documents or 
> plates are routinely ticketed in the DMV parking lots.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 6:10 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> Any car brought in from out of state has to have the VIN verified when it is 
> registered. It can be done by a Florida Notary Public, Licensed Dealer, 
> Police Officer, or Florida Division of Motorist Services Employee or Tax 
> Collector Employee. No fee involved, just fill out a form, inspect the 
> vehicle and sign off.
> 
> I have a good friend and neighbor who is an attorney that I usually hit up to 
> do this, but we’ve got a new community service officer (CSO) and this gave me 
> a chance to meet him.  Plus it also meant I didn’t have to drive the car the 
> 3-4 blocks to go to my friend’s house, since it’s not currently registered.  
> I just called up our local sheriff’s substation and had them put the call 
> into his rotation.  It’s a courtesy thing that LEO will do around here as 
> time permits.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That is a d*ck move if I ever heard one.  Our public servants are actually 
pretty good about stuff like this.  Like when I go to the Tax Collector (DMV) 
and they tell me how to do something to save myself a buck.  Example, when I 
moved back into the state since I had a license plate that hadn’t been turned 
in I was able to use that registration to skip paying a $225.00 administrative 
fee for bringing a car in from out of state.

That saved me $675.00 when I moved back here.

Glad I don’t live in MD.

-D


> On Feb 21, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> That's good customer service. Around here, people  who drive their 
> unregistered or expired tag cars to DMV to get the necessary documents or 
> plates are routinely ticketed in the DMV parking lots.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 6:10 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> Any car brought in from out of state has to have the VIN verified when it is 
> registered. It can be done by a Florida Notary Public, Licensed Dealer, 
> Police Officer, or Florida Division of Motorist Services Employee or Tax 
> Collector Employee. No fee involved, just fill out a form, inspect the 
> vehicle and sign off.
> 
> I have a good friend and neighbor who is an attorney that I usually hit up to 
> do this, but we’ve got a new community service officer (CSO) and this gave me 
> a chance to meet him.  Plus it also meant I didn’t have to drive the car the 
> 3-4 blocks to go to my friend’s house, since it’s not currently registered.  
> I just called up our local sheriff’s substation and had them put the call 
> into his rotation.  It’s a courtesy thing that LEO will do around here as 
> time permits.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] W123 runs on and on

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Re-read Rick Knoble's post.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> But on the firewall? Do you have some kind of loony aftermarket vacuum
> pump?
>
> The vacuum pump is driven from the engine, therefore its ON the engine.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 10:16:25 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
> He actually showed me how to do it.  I need a 5 mm allen and must exercise
> care.
>
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That is the vacuum pump diaphragm, which is what he needs pay the guy to
> > install on his vac pump.
> >
> > Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >> February 21, 2018 at 7:50 AM
> >> The link Andrew sent shows a product much to large to go on the shutoff
> >> device...
> >> -Curt
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 runs on and on

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

But on the firewall? Do you have some kind of loony aftermarket vacuum pump?
The vacuum pump is driven from the engine, therefore its ON the engine.
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 10:16:25 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 He actually showed me how to do it.  I need a 5 mm allen and must exercise
care.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That is the vacuum pump diaphragm, which is what he needs pay the guy to
> install on his vac pump.
>
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> February 21, 2018 at 7:50 AM
>> The link Andrew sent shows a product much to large to go on the shutoff
>> device...
>> -Curt
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That's good customer service. Around here, people  who drive their
unregistered or expired tag cars to DMV to get the necessary documents or
plates are routinely ticketed in the DMV parking lots.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 6:10 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Any car brought in from out of state has to have the VIN verified when it
> is registered. It can be done by a Florida Notary Public, Licensed Dealer,
> Police Officer, or Florida Division of Motorist Services Employee or Tax
> Collector Employee. No fee involved, just fill out a form, inspect the
> vehicle and sign off.
>
> I have a good friend and neighbor who is an attorney that I usually hit up
> to do this, but we’ve got a new community service officer (CSO) and this
> gave me a chance to meet him.  Plus it also meant I didn’t have to drive
> the car the 3-4 blocks to go to my friend’s house, since it’s not currently
> registered.  I just called up our local sheriff’s substation and had them
> put the call into his rotation.  It’s a courtesy thing that LEO will do
> around here as time permits.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 2018, at 10:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > Do they verify for free or does the DMV or police charge for this
> service?
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 8:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > Updated the blog with the thing I got done today.  Nothing major, just a
> bunch of little piddly things, but that stuff adds up over time.  Had my
> local gendarme come by and verify my VIN so I can get a registration and
> title on Thursday when I’m back in the office.  If I get it done in the
> morning I can order my keys and ignition cylinder at lunch.
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Re: [MBZ] W123 runs on and on

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He actually showed me how to do it.  I need a 5 mm allen and must exercise
care.

On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That is the vacuum pump diaphragm, which is what he needs pay the guy to
> install on his vac pump.
>
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> February 21, 2018 at 7:50 AM
>> The link Andrew sent shows a product much to large to go on the shutoff
>> device...
>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] W123 runs on and on

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

That is the vacuum pump diaphragm, which is what he needs pay the guy to 
install on his vac pump.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
February 21, 2018 at 7:50 AM
The link Andrew sent shows a product much to large to go on the 
shutoff device...

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Oh my!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Put you r 5 liter yuro in it!

Or put the holley injection conversion on it

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
February 21, 2018 at 7:25 AM
But it has the crappy d jet


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Re: [MBZ] W123 runs on and on

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The link Andrew sent shows a product much to large to go on the shutoff 
device...
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 12:12:51 AM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Karl‎ sez:

>‎The only vacuum
>lines on the injection pump control the >shift pressure in the transmission
>based upon throttle position IIRC.

And the shut off. I suspect the diaphragm being referred to, is the one in the 
shut off device or diaphragm. 

And here's a few links I pulled up (bored) if anyone is interested.

http://dieselgiant.com/repairyourshutoffvalve.htm

‎https://mercedessource.com/problems/engine/diesel-wont-shut-when-the-key-turned

https://youtu.be/C5Mo3QE36LI

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mercedes-diesel-fuel-injector-pump-shutdown-solenoid-240d-300cd-300d-300sd-300td-1427133091

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Oh my!

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

But it has the crappy d jet

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> On Feb 20, 2018, at 11:27 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> AND it is before the Crapsler ACC!  THAT is a HUGE plus!
> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> February 20, 2018 at 8:51 PM
>> 1973 Mercedes 450se
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Re: [MBZ] 400E Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Any car brought in from out of state has to have the VIN verified when it is 
registered. It can be done by a Florida Notary Public, Licensed Dealer, Police 
Officer, or Florida Division of Motorist Services Employee or Tax Collector 
Employee. No fee involved, just fill out a form, inspect the vehicle and sign 
off.

I have a good friend and neighbor who is an attorney that I usually hit up to 
do this, but we’ve got a new community service officer (CSO) and this gave me a 
chance to meet him.  Plus it also meant I didn’t have to drive the car the 3-4 
blocks to go to my friend’s house, since it’s not currently registered.  I just 
called up our local sheriff’s substation and had them put the call into his 
rotation.  It’s a courtesy thing that LEO will do around here as time permits.

-D


> On Feb 20, 2018, at 10:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
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> Do they verify for free or does the DMV or police charge for this service?
> 
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 8:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> Updated the blog with the thing I got done today.  Nothing major, just a 
> bunch of little piddly things, but that stuff adds up over time.  Had my 
> local gendarme come by and verify my VIN so I can get a registration and 
> title on Thursday when I’m back in the office.  If I get it done in the 
> morning I can order my keys and ignition cylinder at lunch.
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Re: [MBZ] Oh my!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Seat (back) pad is horsehair and has deteriorated.  Pretty typical for an MB of 
that vintage.  Nothing wrong with the covers, the pad just needs to be replaced.

-D


> On Feb 20, 2018, at 10:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How does a rear seat back collapse like that?  Too bad it has the plainest
> possible wood dash.
> 
> Looks like DB 218 - light green.
> http://mbzponton.org/ponton3/colorcht/mb_colorchart2_insideA.jpg
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> Anyone nearby who can visit and take some more pictures\?
> 
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 10:04 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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>> Double Kaleb green.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
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>> On Feb 20, 2018 10:01 PM, "clay monroe via Mercedes" <
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>>> Go get it!  It sure is purtty
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
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>>> retired models-
>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 1973 Mercedes 450se
 
 https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/1973-mercedes-450se/
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