Re: [MBZ] 300sel 4.5

2018-06-16 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
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Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Jun 16, 2018 10:16 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
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> What goes he want for this pos?
>
> On Jun 16, 2018 9:49 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > 1972 Mercedes 300sel 4.5 factory air ride
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Re: [MBZ] 300sel 4.5

2018-06-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What goes he want for this pos?

On Jun 16, 2018 9:49 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
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> 1972 Mercedes 300sel 4.5 factory air ride
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[MBZ] 300sel 4.5

2018-06-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
1972 Mercedes 300sel 4.5 factory air ride

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/d/1972-mercedes-300sel-45/6618964637.html


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Re: [MBZ] 91 SEC headlights bulb weirdness

2018-06-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Thanks for that observation.  Maybe grinding the bulb holder is the better 
approach. That would keep it oriented properly. The socket connector is 
oriented a certain way so that is an indication of how it should go.

Dremel time tomorrow...

--R
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> On Jun 16, 2018, at 8:12 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> IMHO, plain bulbs are superior.  None of this blue crap 'upgrade'.
> 
> The bulbs and holders are keyed, so that the light originates from exactly
> the
> right place within the reflector.  With two filaments to consider, the
> geometry
> really _is_ that tight.  I would not butcher the headlamps, I'd grind a bulb
> before I did that.  But if you do, expect it to not work correctly, maybe
> have
> an incorrect low-beam cutoff and blind oncoming drivers.
> 
> If you wanted to do that, get a newer vehicle with HID headlamps.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> This is weird.  I ordered some new bulb socket connectors, supposedly
>> ceramic, for the SEC since both of the old ones had melted.  Got those
>> soldered on no problem.
>> 
>> Go to put the bulbs back in the headlamp housing and they won't go in
>> right.   I'm sure they were in there OK when I took them out (turns out I
>> didn't have to, should have left well enough alone...).  The bulb holders
>> have 3 little slots on them and the left side housing has 3 little tabs
>> (one is missing but that's OK), 2 of the three look to be slightly bigger
>> than the other one as do the slots on the holders.  The right side seems to
>> have 4 tabs in the housing and of course the bulb holder will not go in
>> there.  All the replacements seem to have 3 slots, which the ones that I
>> have do, but I absolutely cannot get them to go in and seat over those
>> little tabs.
>> 
>> This is really weird, the bulbs/holders should just slide right in then
>> the round holder thing goes over the bulb holder, 3 tabs go into slots and
>> then you rotate the holder to tighten it down. Without the bulb holder
>> fully seating this thing won't go into the slots so it can be turned to
>> tighten it and hold the bulb in.
>> 
>> I have no idea what to do here other than just grind off the tabs in the
>> headlamp backing that the bulbs go into, they don't seem to be absolutely
>> necessary, they just keep the bulb in sorta the right orientation though
>> I'm not sure that makes a big difference to anything.
>> 
>> Looking at new bulbs, here is another thing too.  A single bulb Amazon
>> Prime is $10.35 and a two pack is $31.96.  I could buy 3 singles for the
>> price of two.  Whussup with that?
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Philips-9004-X-tremeVision-Upgrade-
>> Headlight/dp/B016ZY470I/ref=sr_1_24?ie=UTF8=
>> 1529185676=8-24=1991+mercedes+560sec+headlight+bulb
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Philips-9004XVB2-X-tremeVision-
>> Upgrade-Headlight/dp/B01C5QY6TC/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&
>> qid=1529185676=8-7=1991+mercedes+560sec+headlight+bulb
>> 
>> I guess I don't need any new bulbs since the others seemed to work, just
>> the sockets melted.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 201/124 blower motor

2018-06-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
White lithium grease quickly turns to the rock for which it is named.
It should join the pantheon of frequently mis-applied and thus ultimately
harmful yet inexplicably popular products, alongside Armor-all and WD40.
(All of which probably have their place.)

I generally use ATF on motor bearings.

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Re: [MBZ] 91 SEC headlights bulb weirdness

2018-06-16 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
IMHO, plain bulbs are superior.  None of this blue crap 'upgrade'.

The bulbs and holders are keyed, so that the light originates from exactly
the
right place within the reflector.  With two filaments to consider, the
geometry
really _is_ that tight.  I would not butcher the headlamps, I'd grind a bulb
before I did that.  But if you do, expect it to not work correctly, maybe
have
an incorrect low-beam cutoff and blind oncoming drivers.

If you wanted to do that, get a newer vehicle with HID headlamps.

-- Jim


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 3:30 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This is weird.  I ordered some new bulb socket connectors, supposedly
> ceramic, for the SEC since both of the old ones had melted.  Got those
> soldered on no problem.
>
> Go to put the bulbs back in the headlamp housing and they won't go in
> right.   I'm sure they were in there OK when I took them out (turns out I
> didn't have to, should have left well enough alone...).  The bulb holders
> have 3 little slots on them and the left side housing has 3 little tabs
> (one is missing but that's OK), 2 of the three look to be slightly bigger
> than the other one as do the slots on the holders.  The right side seems to
> have 4 tabs in the housing and of course the bulb holder will not go in
> there.  All the replacements seem to have 3 slots, which the ones that I
> have do, but I absolutely cannot get them to go in and seat over those
> little tabs.
>
> This is really weird, the bulbs/holders should just slide right in then
> the round holder thing goes over the bulb holder, 3 tabs go into slots and
> then you rotate the holder to tighten it down. Without the bulb holder
> fully seating this thing won't go into the slots so it can be turned to
> tighten it and hold the bulb in.
>
> I have no idea what to do here other than just grind off the tabs in the
> headlamp backing that the bulbs go into, they don't seem to be absolutely
> necessary, they just keep the bulb in sorta the right orientation though
> I'm not sure that makes a big difference to anything.
>
> Looking at new bulbs, here is another thing too.  A single bulb Amazon
> Prime is $10.35 and a two pack is $31.96.  I could buy 3 singles for the
> price of two.  Whussup with that?
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Philips-9004-X-tremeVision-Upgrade-
> Headlight/dp/B016ZY470I/ref=sr_1_24?ie=UTF8=
> 1529185676=8-24=1991+mercedes+560sec+headlight+bulb
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Philips-9004XVB2-X-tremeVision-
> Upgrade-Headlight/dp/B01C5QY6TC/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&
> qid=1529185676=8-7=1991+mercedes+560sec+headlight+bulb
>
> I guess I don't need any new bulbs since the others seemed to work, just
> the sockets melted.
>
> --
> --FT
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[MBZ] 91 SEC headlights bulb weirdness

2018-06-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
This is weird.  I ordered some new bulb socket connectors, supposedly 
ceramic, for the SEC since both of the old ones had melted.  Got those 
soldered on no problem.


Go to put the bulbs back in the headlamp housing and they won't go in 
right.   I'm sure they were in there OK when I took them out (turns out 
I didn't have to, should have left well enough alone...).  The bulb 
holders have 3 little slots on them and the left side housing has 3 
little tabs (one is missing but that's OK), 2 of the three look to be 
slightly bigger than the other one as do the slots on the holders.  The 
right side seems to have 4 tabs in the housing and of course the bulb 
holder will not go in there.  All the replacements seem to have 3 slots, 
which the ones that I have do, but I absolutely cannot get them to go in 
and seat over those little tabs.


This is really weird, the bulbs/holders should just slide right in then 
the round holder thing goes over the bulb holder, 3 tabs go into slots 
and then you rotate the holder to tighten it down. Without the bulb 
holder fully seating this thing won't go into the slots so it can be 
turned to tighten it and hold the bulb in.


I have no idea what to do here other than just grind off the tabs in the 
headlamp backing that the bulbs go into, they don't seem to be 
absolutely necessary, they just keep the bulb in sorta the right 
orientation though I'm not sure that makes a big difference to anything.


Looking at new bulbs, here is another thing too.  A single bulb Amazon 
Prime is $10.35 and a two pack is $31.96.  I could buy 3 singles for the 
price of two.  Whussup with that?


https://www.amazon.com/Philips-9004-X-tremeVision-Upgrade-Headlight/dp/B016ZY470I/ref=sr_1_24?ie=UTF8=1529185676=8-24=1991+mercedes+560sec+headlight+bulb

https://www.amazon.com/Philips-9004XVB2-X-tremeVision-Upgrade-Headlight/dp/B01C5QY6TC/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8=1529185676=8-7=1991+mercedes+560sec+headlight+bulb

I guess I don't need any new bulbs since the others seemed to work, just 
the sockets melted.


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[MBZ] a disappointing day

2018-06-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So I spent most of the day working on the 190D.  I did a full conversion 
to R134 including new expansion valve, all o rings replaced, drier 
replaced, oil changed to ester, also pulled the blower motor and cleaned 
out a rats nest that was built back behind the fan and evaporator.  No 
idea how they got in there. Put it all back together, pulled a vacuum 
and ran leak test on the ac machine, it passed.  I then charged with 
R134 and the 201 chassis seems to convert well to R134 as it cooled 
pretty darn good at idle in the 95 degree heat today.


I noticed all the sudden the oil pressure gauge is dead, shows 0 even 
when wire is unplugged from the sending unit.  I guess I will have to 
swap the gauge out.  So as I was finishing it up for the day I shut the 
car down and hear a hiss.  Not the normal hiss you might here when you 
shut it down with the high and low side equalizing.  It was louder.  It 
seemed to be coming from down low.  Then I saw it, a big bubble in the 
high side hose from the condenser to the compressor.  Crap.  I pulled 
the car back into the shop to go ahead and recover the system before it 
all leaked out and I keep getting a high pressure error on my machine.  
I need to look into that and hopefully its not a major deal.  So anyway, 
looks like Im going to have to replace the manifold hoses.  I wonder if 
its cheaper to order a new set or have these rebuilt?  Anybody BTDT?  I 
was hoping to have this car ready to start driving next week.



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Re: [MBZ] testing...

2018-06-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
You’ve been sent to Okiemail jail 

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> On Jun 16, 2018, at 1:36 PM, Mitch Haley  wrote:
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> You replied to me and the list, and I got your direct reply.
> Still haven't seen anything from the list all day. 
> I guess I got unsubscribed from the list somehow. 
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>> On June 16, 2018 at 12:51 PM Buggered Benzmail  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Was alcohol involved?
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
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>>> On Jun 16, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Gauge Needle Flutter

2018-06-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That's strange.  I think there is a disc with small orifice at the gauge end of 
the oil tube that is supposed to dampen the oil pulses.  Any work done to the 
instrument cluster lately?
-- 
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'95 E300

On June 16, 2018 1:07:29 PM EDT, Rdeafboy via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Just started today that when I'm idling the oil gauge needle flutters
>at 2 1/2 bar.   Flutters til I step on the throttle ..Any suggestions
>before I go on a 100 hundred mile trip tomorrow ??
>
>
>Bob -1983 240 D
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Re: [MBZ] testing...

2018-06-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Mitch, 

I received your emails from the list.
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Re: [MBZ] What Wheels?

2018-06-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Roll it onto the trailer, jack it up and put blocks under it, and then 
remove anything in the undercarriage you want.  They can unload it with 
a forklift or something.


--FT


On 6/16/18 12:59 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

What domestic or import wheel pattern will fit a 123? It will NOT be going down 
the road, just a hulk being loaded up on a trailer. I just don't want to scrap 
good alloy wheels.
Rick


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Re: [MBZ] 201/124 blower motor

2018-06-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I sprayed some white lithium grease where the shaft goes into the housing and 
it is quiet now. No telling how long it will last. I guess I will put it back 
in and see. 

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> On Jun 16, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Kaleb.
> If the squeak is caused by the bearing turning in its' housing you are
> probably out of luck. i.e. The motor shaft and the bearing turn together.
> I once freed up the bearing to shaft seizure by drilling a small hole
> through the side of the outer bearing flange into the actual bearing and
> dribbling some red Loctite into the aperture.
> Then lubricated and freed up the shaft to bearing seizure. It worked until
> the car was sold, approx. 2 years.
> YMMV
> Fred
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Today I’m working on the ac on the 190d, I’m going to go ahead and swap
>> all the o rings, and do a full conversion to r134. The blower motor squeaks
>> bad when running so I pulled it. Not that fun of a job in a 201 but only
>> took about 10 minutes. Just not much room to work. Anyway, when turning by
>> hand it squeaks so what should I try to lube it with? ATF? Or it it even
>> worth trying?
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[MBZ] Test

2018-06-16 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Yeah. It failed.

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] testing...

2018-06-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
You replied to me and the list, and I got your direct reply.
Still haven't seen anything from the list all day. 
I guess I got unsubscribed from the list somehow. 

> On June 16, 2018 at 12:51 PM Buggered Benzmail  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Was alcohol involved?
> 
> --FT
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> > On Jun 16, 2018, at 12:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] Oil Gauge Needle Flutter

2018-06-16 Thread Rdeafboy via Mercedes
Just started today that when I'm idling the oil gauge needle flutters at 2 1/2 
bar.   Flutters til I step on the throttle ..Any suggestions before I go on a 
100 hundred mile trip tomorrow ??


Bob -1983 240 D
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[MBZ] What Wheels?

2018-06-16 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

What domestic or import wheel pattern will fit a 123? It will NOT be going down 
the road, just a hulk being loaded up on a trailer. I just don't want to scrap 
good alloy wheels. 
Rick


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Re: [MBZ] testing...

2018-06-16 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Was alcohol involved?

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Re: [MBZ] testing...

2018-06-16 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
No worries in a few years, she will run for public office and we can
get replays on TV for a month solid. Youth... the new ruling class... scary
isn't it.

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[MBZ] testing...

2018-06-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Is the listserv working?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/14/minnesota-teenager-gets-her-head-stuck-in-tailpipe-during-music-festival.html

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Re: [MBZ] Oil levels

2018-06-16 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Willful ignorance is so painful to watch... Ouch !!!

What exactly does a license to drive cover again?

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 5:28 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> The Brits were never 'car people', but are yanks any better when it comes
> to maintaining proper oil levels?
>
> (man on the street report starts around 3 minutes in, the first half of
> the video shows them driving a car with no oil and listening to it fail,
> but not bothering to tell us how long it took for that to happen)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE5fcdBf9Q
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Re: [MBZ] 201/124 blower motor

2018-06-16 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
Kaleb.
If the squeak is caused by the bearing turning in its' housing you are
probably out of luck. i.e. The motor shaft and the bearing turn together.
I once freed up the bearing to shaft seizure by drilling a small hole
through the side of the outer bearing flange into the actual bearing and
dribbling some red Loctite into the aperture.
Then lubricated and freed up the shaft to bearing seizure. It worked until
the car was sold, approx. 2 years.
YMMV
Fred


On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Today I’m working on the ac on the 190d, I’m going to go ahead and swap
> all the o rings, and do a full conversion to r134. The blower motor squeaks
> bad when running so I pulled it. Not that fun of a job in a 201 but only
> took about 10 minutes. Just not much room to work. Anyway, when turning by
> hand it squeaks so what should I try to lube it with? ATF? Or it it even
> worth trying?
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[MBZ] 201/124 blower motor

2018-06-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Today I’m working on the ac on the 190d, I’m going to go ahead and swap all the 
o rings, and do a full conversion to r134. The blower motor squeaks bad when 
running so I pulled it. Not that fun of a job in a 201 but only took about 10 
minutes. Just not much room to work. Anyway, when turning by hand it squeaks so 
what should I try to lube it with? ATF? Or it it even worth trying?

Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] Oil levels

2018-06-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
The Brits were never 'car people', but are yanks any better when it comes to 
maintaining proper oil levels? 

(man on the street report starts around 3 minutes in, the first half of the 
video shows them driving a car with no oil and listening to it fail, but not 
bothering to tell us how long it took for that to happen)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUE5fcdBf9Q

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