Re: [MBZ] Up comes a Bubblin' crude

2018-08-11 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
This is a freshly refinished cover.   Checked for wracking and out of level, as 
well as having any exterior scuffing repaired.  There was no indication of 
escaping oil on the cover, just below the gasket.

clay monroe
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> On Aug 11, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Unless there is a hairline crack in the valve cover itself, which happened
> to me once.
> 
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> How did you set the gasket?  This critical, it's not just pop it on the
>> cover and screw it down!
>> 
>> Best practice is to make sure the gasket is fitted to the cover all the
>> way around, clean and dry.  Head must also be clean and dry.
>> 
>> Thump the cover firmly agains the head five or six times with the gasket
>> in place -- the cover must fit into the slot in the gasket all the way down
>> all the way around, you can usually tell by the change in sound when it's
>> seated.
>> 
>> Then tighten the screws GENTLY -- more than finger tight, but not more
>> than 20 ft/lbs I think.  Too tight and the cover warps and lifts up between
>> the screws and leaks.
>> 
>> I can't think of anything else that would leak all over the engine on a
>> 617.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Up comes a Bubblin' crude

2018-08-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
The only time my 617 tossed oil by the gallon was when my oil cooler hose 
failed.

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Re: [MBZ] Up comes a Bubblin' crude

2018-08-11 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
I have now installed a fresh gasket and made sure everything is scrupulously 
clean, all obstructions out of the way.  Fitted the gasket fully to the dry 
cover to make sure it did not try to escape.  The leak was not slowed.  
Probably due to not getting it torqued down “Just Enough”.   Once the engine 
cooled enough, I cleaned it up, once more, and gave the nuts a squeak more 
pressure.  That seems to have reduced the flow.  

I may get to “extend” my oil change, as there is pretty near all new oil in the 
crank case.  Must have leaked out and replaced a few gallons over the past 
number of days while driving.

clay monroe
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> On Aug 11, 2018, at 4:59 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How did you set the gasket?  This critical, it's not just pop it on the cover 
> and screw it down!
> 
> Best practice is to make sure the gasket is fitted to the cover all the way 
> around, clean and dry.  Head must also be clean and dry. 
> 
> Thump the cover firmly agains the head five or six times with the gasket in 
> place -- the cover must fit into the slot in the gasket all the way down all 
> the way around, you can usually tell by the change in sound when it's seated.
> 
> Then tighten the screws GENTLY -- more than finger tight, but not more than 
> 20 ft/lbs I think.  Too tight and the cover warps and lifts up between the 
> screws and leaks.
> 
> I can't think of anything else that would leak all over the engine on a 617.
> 
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] This could be a decent deal. Mercedes Station Wagon 2001 E320 - $1200

2018-08-11 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
If it's like most of them the seat was never unfolded, so the seat, if not the 
rest of the rear interior, should be in the same condition as the advertising 
photo car. 

Seller probably just too lazy to figure out how to open the seat to photograph 
it. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2018-08-11 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
Must have been some dude with a giant bucket who brought all the glacial till 
and filled the place with it.


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> On Aug 10, 2018, at 1:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't believe the Seattle area was directly subject to the Pleistocene
> glaciation.  The ice sheet advance stopped further to the north.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 2:13 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> This land subsidence thing must be why Miami beach is having so much
>> saltwater flooding up through the storm sewers also. They are building many
>> roads up above the sidewalks several feet.
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2018, 10:12 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The PNW continues to creep closer to the sky with each passing year.
>>> Many decades ago, a college professor (meteorology) spoke of how spongy
>>> the ground was around here and over the past 10k years, once the miles of
>>> ice melted away, the land has been springing back impressively.That
>>> stuff that was very underwater when all the water was locked up in ice as
>>> thick as the stuff Wilton speaks of in Greenland, is now over 200 feet
>>> above sea level.
>>> 
>>> So, all that ice melted, the water levels rose, and the sea beds are now
>>> high and dry.
>>> 
>>> Global Climate change
>>> 
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>>> 
>>> retired models-
>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 9, 2018, at 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Sea level is noted as rising in Canada...
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
 
 On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes<
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   On Thu, 9 Aug 2018 16:28:22 -0500
>>> Mountain Man via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
> Craig wrote:
>> No, it's not sea level rise. It's the earth sinking.
> 
> Earth sinking - sounds plausible, fracking, oil pumping as assistant
> to the cause.
 
 More than likely a small assistant.
 
 When the northern U.S. was under miles of ice, the ground under the
>> ice,
 under a pressure of roughly 2289 psi per mile of ice (neglecting any
 compression of the ice), was pressed down and the southern half of the
 U.S. was forced up.
 
 Now that the ice is gone, the ground in the respective areas are moving
 to their original altitudes, the north moving up and the south moving
 down.
 
 
 Craig
 
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>> On Aug 9, 2018 10:12 PM, "clay monroe via Mercedes" >> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The PNW continues to creep closer to the sky with each passing year.   Many
>> decades ago, a college professor (meteorology) spoke of how spongy the
>> ground was around here and over the past 10k years, once the miles of ice
>> melted away, the land has been springing back impressively.That stuff
>> that was very underwater when all the water was locked up in ice as thick
>> as the stuff Wilton speaks of in Greenland, is now over 200 feet above sea
>> level.
>> 
>> So, all that ice melted, the water levels rose, and the sea beds are now
>> high and dry.
>> 
>> Global Climate change
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2018, at 4:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sea level is noted as rising in Canada...
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>> On

Re: [MBZ] This could be a decent deal. Mercedes Station Wagon 2001 E320 - $1200

2018-08-11 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 11:51:49 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Doesn't look half bad
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-station-wagon-2001/6667476413.html

Picture 6, the one of the inside viewed from the rear, looks suspicious,
like it was from Benz promotional literature and not of the car.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This could be a decent deal. Mercedes Station Wagon 2001 E320 - $1200

2018-08-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It has a rear bumber that has a dent.  Bummer.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Doesn't look half bad
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-station-wag
> on-2001/6667476413.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Up comes a Bubblin' crude

2018-08-11 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Unless there is a hairline crack in the valve cover itself, which happened
to me once.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> How did you set the gasket?  This critical, it's not just pop it on the
> cover and screw it down!
>
> Best practice is to make sure the gasket is fitted to the cover all the
> way around, clean and dry.  Head must also be clean and dry.
>
> Thump the cover firmly agains the head five or six times with the gasket
> in place -- the cover must fit into the slot in the gasket all the way down
> all the way around, you can usually tell by the change in sound when it's
> seated.
>
> Then tighten the screws GENTLY -- more than finger tight, but not more
> than 20 ft/lbs I think.  Too tight and the cover warps and lifts up between
> the screws and leaks.
>
> I can't think of anything else that would leak all over the engine on a
> 617.
>
> Peter
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[MBZ] This could be a decent deal. Mercedes Station Wagon 2001 E320 - $1200

2018-08-11 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Doesn't look half bad

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mercedes-station-wagon-2001/6667476413.html

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Re: [MBZ] cf. the $500 99 E300D

2018-08-11 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Excellent. Another advanced feature of the 240D's.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Aug 10, 2018 11:48 PM, "G Mann via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Dual Climate Control:
> Hand operated window cranks... one on each side and a wind wing...
>
> Blows cold 6 months of the year...
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 7:14 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Yes,that was my 78 that my brother brought up from N.C.. My 79 was,the
> > Green goddess which came from northern CA.
> > Eating horsepower  on a 240D- now there is,a funny concept.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Aug 10, 2018 9:55 PM, "Curt Raymond"  wrote:
> >
> > It did, great big old York compressor, had already been converted to
> 134a.
> > The first time I put refrigerant in it a hose on the front wheel well
> > failed dramatically. I replaced that and the drier and got the AC putting
> > out ice cubes but boy did it eat up the horsepower when it was on...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Friday, August 10, 2018, 9:13:30 PM EDT, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I don't recall that my 79 240D had A.C.. maybe it just didn't work
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Aug 10, 2018 4:20 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 15:44:59 -0400 Dwight Giles via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > My 79 240D had dual climate control.
> > > > .
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > > .
> > > > Two knobs
> > >
> > > I'm sure it was like our '82 240D/3.0, with two knobs for heating, but
> > > only one for air conditioning ...
> > >
> > >
> > > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Up comes a Bubblin' crude

2018-08-11 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
How did you set the gasket?  This critical, it's not just pop it on the cover 
and screw it down!

Best practice is to make sure the gasket is fitted to the cover all the way 
around, clean and dry.  Head must also be clean and dry. 

Thump the cover firmly agains the head five or six times with the gasket in 
place -- the cover must fit into the slot in the gasket all the way down all 
the way around, you can usually tell by the change in sound when it's seated.

Then tighten the screws GENTLY -- more than finger tight, but not more than 20 
ft/lbs I think.  Too tight and the cover warps and lifts up between the screws 
and leaks.

I can't think of anything else that would leak all over the engine on a 617.

Peter
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