Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
"Only 55 ft waves"

Well dang and I already unpacked the big water wings...

83 ft waves so... a wave 3 times the height of a single story house...
That makes me want to run right out and buy a little "beach house", right
on the ocean... yup not.

Arizona the right beach front property dry... shaken not stirred ..
please...

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:54 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:38:37 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > http://americanactionnews.com/articles/florence-s-
> unimaginable-worse-case-scenario
> >
> > Oooops works better when I actually post the link... Apology
> > offered...
>
> Apology accepted.
>
> I went to the NHC page referenced in the page at your link and searched
> for wave heights (called "seas to ..."). I found "only" 55 feet, but I'd
> rather not be out in those, not to mention 83 feet seas! I did hear the
> mention of 83 foot seas on the news earlier today.
>
>
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[MBZ] A good analysis video of the tropical weather, including Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
I just ran across this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vBtniLYSfM

Tropical Tidbit for Wednesday Evening, September 12th, 2018


The guy gives a very good explanation of what is going on with Hurricane
Florence and other disturbances.

There is a link to his website.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:38:37 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> http://americanactionnews.com/articles/florence-s-unimaginable-worse-case-scenario
> 
> Oooops works better when I actually post the link... Apology
> offered...

Apology accepted.

I went to the NHC page referenced in the page at your link and searched
for wave heights (called "seas to ..."). I found "only" 55 feet, but I'd
rather not be out in those, not to mention 83 feet seas! I did hear the
mention of 83 foot seas on the news earlier today.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
http://americanactionnews.com/articles/florence-s-unimaginable-worse-case-scenario

Oooops works better when I actually post the link... Apology offered...


On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:34 PM, G Mann  wrote:

> This in from AAN, with a replay from Fox News head *Meteorologist*.
>
> Current satellite measurements are seeing waves 83 ft high, due to wind
> direction being same as storm path... it's pushing a lot of water, folks.
>
> Better pull out the industrial swim fins and floaties...
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Craig via Mercedes  > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:19:58 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>> > From a meterologist on another email list:
>> > --
>> > There is absolutely no truth to anything in this article. None.
>> > Participating in the spreading of this fake climate hysteria is
>> > inexcusable for anyone who calls himself a scientist or has training in
>> > atmospheric science such as Kevin Trenberth as there is no metric that
>> > can be used to distinguish any of these hurricanes in the present to
>> > anything in the past that proves atmospheric CO2 is the cause of any of
>> > it.
>> >   
>>
>> The reply to that email was,
>>
>> --
>> I agree that Trenberth needs to dissociate himself from that editorial.
>> It is just anti-Trump hysteria, dressed up as science.
>>
>> But Trenberth also needs to be careful what he says to today's
>> journalists who always have a strong political agenda.  His claim about
>> “The ocean is warming up systematically”{and therefore driving stronger
>> hurricanes] is dubious at best. The National Weather Service was much
>> more scientific in their latest 'Discussion' of Florence. They said:
>>
>> "A narrow window of opportunity remains during the next
>> 24 hours or so for Florence to strengthen a little when
>> the hurricane passes over the warmer SSTs and deeper warm
>> water/higher upper-ocean heat content associated with the
>> Gulf Stream"
>>
>> In other words, this is all about ocean currents and the Thermohaline
>> Circulation, not Global Warming.  That is the conventional wisdom.
>>
>> Trenberth should consider supporting the truth, or if misquoted, fight
>> back against those who misinterpret everything for political purposes.
>>
>> The National Hurricane Center has downgraded Florence to a Category 3
>> hurricane, even though it has broadened into a bigger storm with more
>> associated energy.  It is still a monster, like so many others in the
>> past.
>> --
>>
>>
>> Craig
>>
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Re: [MBZ] How about an oil thread to keep your minds off of the hurricane?

2018-09-12 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> archer75--- wrote:

> Marshall Booth investigated the synthetic oil business early on
> and found that Mobil was the only synthetic oil manufacturer
> worldwide. All other oil companies advertising synthetic were
> buying synthetic oil from Mobil. As a result the advertising
> claims of other oil companies became muddled.

There has been more recent info suggesting that Exxon has been
riding the Mobil1 reputation but suppling Group III oil.  _I_ have
no data...

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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
This in from AAN, with a replay from Fox News head *Meteorologist*.

Current satellite measurements are seeing waves 83 ft high, due to wind
direction being same as storm path... it's pushing a lot of water, folks.

Better pull out the industrial swim fins and floaties...

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 8:26 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:19:58 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > From a meterologist on another email list:
> > --
> > There is absolutely no truth to anything in this article. None.
> > Participating in the spreading of this fake climate hysteria is
> > inexcusable for anyone who calls himself a scientist or has training in
> > atmospheric science such as Kevin Trenberth as there is no metric that
> > can be used to distinguish any of these hurricanes in the present to
> > anything in the past that proves atmospheric CO2 is the cause of any of
> > it.
> >   
>
> The reply to that email was,
>
> --
> I agree that Trenberth needs to dissociate himself from that editorial.
> It is just anti-Trump hysteria, dressed up as science.
>
> But Trenberth also needs to be careful what he says to today's
> journalists who always have a strong political agenda.  His claim about
> “The ocean is warming up systematically”{and therefore driving stronger
> hurricanes] is dubious at best. The National Weather Service was much
> more scientific in their latest 'Discussion' of Florence. They said:
>
> "A narrow window of opportunity remains during the next
> 24 hours or so for Florence to strengthen a little when
> the hurricane passes over the warmer SSTs and deeper warm
> water/higher upper-ocean heat content associated with the
> Gulf Stream"
>
> In other words, this is all about ocean currents and the Thermohaline
> Circulation, not Global Warming.  That is the conventional wisdom.
>
> Trenberth should consider supporting the truth, or if misquoted, fight
> back against those who misinterpret everything for political purposes.
>
> The National Hurricane Center has downgraded Florence to a Category 3
> hurricane, even though it has broadened into a bigger storm with more
> associated energy.  It is still a monster, like so many others in the
> past.
> --
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes Benz s500 - $4000

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:20:39 -0700 clay monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I sold my POS W220 for $1800 because the airmatic had defecated
> itself.  Otherwise the bulk of the systems were adequate.  Bose Amp had
> perished in the wheel well swamp, taking out the command system and CD
> swapper.  Tan on black.  This thing may have all sorts of whistle bells
> that probably do not work, or are on the failure train cascade of death.
> 
> This car looks like a turd that would not get more than $2k to haul away

Tell us what you really think, Clay!  :-)


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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:19:58 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> From a meterologist on another email list:
> --
> There is absolutely no truth to anything in this article. None.
> Participating in the spreading of this fake climate hysteria is
> inexcusable for anyone who calls himself a scientist or has training in
> atmospheric science such as Kevin Trenberth as there is no metric that
> can be used to distinguish any of these hurricanes in the present to
> anything in the past that proves atmospheric CO2 is the cause of any of
> it. 
>   

The reply to that email was,

--
I agree that Trenberth needs to dissociate himself from that editorial.
It is just anti-Trump hysteria, dressed up as science.

But Trenberth also needs to be careful what he says to today's
journalists who always have a strong political agenda.  His claim about
“The ocean is warming up systematically”{and therefore driving stronger
hurricanes] is dubious at best. The National Weather Service was much
more scientific in their latest 'Discussion' of Florence. They said:

"A narrow window of opportunity remains during the next
24 hours or so for Florence to strengthen a little when
the hurricane passes over the warmer SSTs and deeper warm
water/higher upper-ocean heat content associated with the
Gulf Stream"

In other words, this is all about ocean currents and the Thermohaline
Circulation, not Global Warming.  That is the conventional wisdom.

Trenberth should consider supporting the truth, or if misquoted, fight
back against those who misinterpret everything for political purposes.

The National Hurricane Center has downgraded Florence to a Category 3
hurricane, even though it has broadened into a bigger storm with more
associated energy.  It is still a monster, like so many others in the
past.
--


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes Benz s500 - $4000

2018-09-12 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
And if you bypass the airmatic, the analog spring swap is the same price

clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net



> On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ouch
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Sep 12, 2018 7:53 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> $1000 for the rebuilt front struts right out of the gate.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:48 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not mine, no interest, etc. ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/2001-
>> mercedes-benz-s500/6689705296.html
>>> 
>>> Im selling the car because I just replaced the brakes and found out the
>>> front wheel air ride suspension needs to be replaced soon and I'm not in
>>> a position to put down another 500 for the repair so my loss is your
>>> gain. Bluebook value is 5k but considering the front air ride suspension
>>> will need to be replaced soon im asking 4k OBO. Serious inquires only
>>> please.
>>> 
>>> Text or call for more pictures and details.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes Benz s500 - $4000

2018-09-12 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
I sold my POS W220 for $1800 because the airmatic had defecated itself.  
Otherwise the bulk of the systems were adequate.  Bose Amp had perished in the 
wheel well swamp, taking out the command system and CD swapper.  Tan on black.  
This thing may have all sorts of whistle bells that probably do not work, or 
are on the failure train cascade of death.

This car looks like a turd that would not get more than $2k to haul away

clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net



> On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:48 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Not mine, no interest, etc. ...
> 
> 
> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/2001-mercedes-benz-s500/6689705296.html
> 
> Im selling the car because I just replaced the brakes and found out the
> front wheel air ride suspension needs to be replaced soon and I'm not in
> a position to put down another 500 for the repair so my loss is your
> gain. Bluebook value is 5k but considering the front air ride suspension
> will need to be replaced soon im asking 4k OBO. Serious inquires only
> please.
> 
> Text or call for more pictures and details.
> 
> 
> 
> Craig
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[MBZ] 1999 Mercedes ML430 - $2950

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
OK, here is one in which I might be interested.

What do all of you think?

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/1999-mercedes-ml430/6695407207.html

1999 Mercedes ML430 AWD
17 miles
Runs Great
Clean Interior
Very nice vehicle

clean title
$2950


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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes Benz s500 - $4000

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 20:36:19 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> That’s one side if the struts are the issue.  A single rebuilt Arnott
> air strut, the only company that rebuilds them (reliably) is $500 with
> the core.

I see!

So which cars have these struts?


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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes Benz s500 - $4000

2018-09-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s one side if the struts are the issue.  A single rebuilt Arnott air 
strut, the only company that rebuilds them (reliably) is $500 with the core.

-D



> On Sep 12, 2018, at 8:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 19:53:10 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> $1000 for the rebuilt front struts right out of the gate.
> 
> Even though he says $500 ...
> 
> Not that I'm interested!
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:48 PM, Craig via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not mine, no interest, etc. ...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/2001-mercedes-benz-s500/6689705296.html
>>> 
>>> Im selling the car because I just replaced the brakes and found out
>>> the front wheel air ride suspension needs to be replaced soon and I'm
>>> not in a position to put down another 500 for the repair so my loss
>>> is your gain. Bluebook value is 5k but considering the front air ride
>>> suspension will need to be replaced soon im asking 4k OBO. Serious
>>> inquires only please.
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Re: [MBZ] How about an oil thread to keep your minds off of the hurricane?

2018-09-12 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes


Mitch Haley wrote:
 
> These days, I suspect all the major refinery name 'full synthetics' (note 
> that they don't and can't call them 100% synthetic) are made to be good 
> enough, and you just hope that good enough doesn't mean 'just barely 
> qualifies to not get us in trouble for false advertising'.
> 
> If you want the best oil, you can get Amsoil for 75% of retail, which is 
> astronomical compared to the big name crap, but a good price compared to 
> applying an inflation index to the 1990 price of M1, when M1 was a group IV 
> oil made to be the best. 
> 
> I used to think Royal Purple was a cut above M1 / Syntec / etc, but I've seen 
> some oil analysis reports lately that put it slightly below M1.


The Royal Purple and the Castrol lawsuits seemed to have opened up the naming 
controversies about synthetic.
 Marshall Booth investigated the synthetic oil business early on and found that 
Mobil was the only synthetic oil manufacturer worldwide. All other oil 
companies advertising synthetic were buying synthetic oil from Mobil. As a 
result the advertising claims of other oil companies became muddled. Here is an 
abstract of the report of the Castrol lawsuit:

"A Defining Moment For Synthetics
By Katherine Bui
published October 1999 Lubricants World

While the field is not wide open, a new ruling confirms that the definition of 
"synthetic" is still largely in the hands of marketers.

Part 1 of 2

Synthetic. The word has become almost a proscription in the industry, 
especially among scientific and technical organizations, such as the Society of 
Automotive Engineers (SAE) and the American Petroleum Institute (API).

Ask a marketer of motor oil products formulated with hydroprocessed mineral 
oils, and you might get a definition that involves cost-efficiencies and 
consumer choices. Ask an engineer involved in manufacturing polyalphaolefins 
(PAOs) or esters, and composition might be the determining factor. Despite the 
intense debate over the origins of synthetics, an absolute definition has 
remained in limbo for many years, with much of the responsibility placed on 
base oil manufacturers and lubricant marketers.

It was only recently, in a decision by the National Advertising Division (NAD) 
of the Council of Better Business Bureaus, that the first basic action and 
ruling in the United States set a strong precedence for a broader description 
in the marketing of synthetics. In this first installment of a two-part story, 
Lubricants World takes a look at the NAD's ruling and explores the revived 
debate surrounding the definition of "synthetic."

The Ruling
In a ruling released April 1999, the NAD addressed complaints filed by Mobil 
Oil Corp. regarding the truthfulness of Castrol North America Inc.'s claim that 
its Syntec® provides "superior engine protection" to all other motor oils, both 
synthetic and conventional, and that Syntec's esters provide "unique molecular 
bonding." Mobil charged that the advertisements inaccurately represented that 
the current formulation of Syntec is synthetic. The challenge was filed based 
on statements Castrol made in a series of television commercials, Web site 
publications, package labels, and brochures.

The NAD divided its decision to address three issues raised in the complaint. 
Is the reformulated Syntec synthetic motor oil? Has Castrol substantiated its 
superiority claims? Has Syntec been degraded?

Synthetic?
The NAD determined that the evidence presented by the advertiser constitutes a 
reasonable basis for the claim that Castrol Syntec, as currently formulated, is 
a synthetic motor oil. NAD noted that Mobil markets hydroisomerized basestocks 
as synthetic in Europe and elsewhere. NAD noted that the action taken by the 
SAE to delete any reference to "synthetic" in its description of basestocks in 
section J354 and API's consequent removal of any mention of "synthetic" in 
API1509 were decisions by the industry not to restrict use of the term 
"synthetic" to the definition now proffered by Mobil. Further, the SAE 
Automotive Lubricants Reference Book, an extensively peer-reviewed publication, 
states base oils made through the processes used to create Shell's 
hydroisomerized basestock, severe cracking, and reforming processes may be 
marketed as "synthetic."

Superior?
Despite its prior ruling, the NAD advised that Syntec could not advertise a 
superior protection claim.

Degraded?
The NAD determined that though Mobil presented clear evidence that Castrol has 
made a major change to Syntec's formulation, it was not sufficient to 
demonstrate that Syntec has been "degraded."snip

http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/a_defining_moment_for_synthetics.htm



 

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes Benz s500 - $4000

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 19:53:10 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> $1000 for the rebuilt front struts right out of the gate.

Even though he says $500 ...

Not that I'm interested!


Craig


> > On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:48 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Not mine, no interest, etc. ...
> > 
> > 
> > https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/2001-mercedes-benz-s500/6689705296.html
> > 
> > Im selling the car because I just replaced the brakes and found out
> > the front wheel air ride suspension needs to be replaced soon and I'm
> > not in a position to put down another 500 for the repair so my loss
> > is your gain. Bluebook value is 5k but considering the front air ride
> > suspension will need to be replaced soon im asking 4k OBO. Serious
> > inquires only please.

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes Benz s500 - $4000

2018-09-12 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Ouch

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sep 12, 2018 7:53 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> $1000 for the rebuilt front struts right out of the gate.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:48 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Not mine, no interest, etc. ...
> >
> >
> > https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/2001-
> mercedes-benz-s500/6689705296.html
> >
> > Im selling the car because I just replaced the brakes and found out the
> > front wheel air ride suspension needs to be replaced soon and I'm not in
> > a position to put down another 500 for the repair so my loss is your
> > gain. Bluebook value is 5k but considering the front air ride suspension
> > will need to be replaced soon im asking 4k OBO. Serious inquires only
> > please.
> >
> > Text or call for more pictures and details.
> >
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes Benz s500 - $4000

2018-09-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
$1000 for the rebuilt front struts right out of the gate.

-D


> On Sep 12, 2018, at 7:48 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Not mine, no interest, etc. ...
> 
> 
> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/2001-mercedes-benz-s500/6689705296.html
> 
> Im selling the car because I just replaced the brakes and found out the
> front wheel air ride suspension needs to be replaced soon and I'm not in
> a position to put down another 500 for the repair so my loss is your
> gain. Bluebook value is 5k but considering the front air ride suspension
> will need to be replaced soon im asking 4k OBO. Serious inquires only
> please.
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> Text or call for more pictures and details.
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[MBZ] 2001 Mercedes Benz s500 - $4000

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
Not mine, no interest, etc. ...


https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/2001-mercedes-benz-s500/6689705296.html

Im selling the car because I just replaced the brakes and found out the
front wheel air ride suspension needs to be replaced soon and I'm not in
a position to put down another 500 for the repair so my loss is your
gain. Bluebook value is 5k but considering the front air ride suspension
will need to be replaced soon im asking 4k OBO. Serious inquires only
please.

Text or call for more pictures and details.



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Re: [MBZ] How about an oil thread to keep your minds off of the hurricane?

2018-09-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


These days, I suspect all the major refinery name 'full synthetics' (note that 
they don't and can't call them 100% synthetic) are made to be good enough, and 
you just hope that good enough doesn't mean 'just barely qualifies to not get 
us in trouble for false advertising'.

If you want the best oil, you can get Amsoil for 75% of retail, which is 
astronomical compared to the big name crap, but a good price compared to 
applying an inflation index to the 1990 price of M1, when M1 was a group IV oil 
made to be the best. 

I used to think Royal Purple was a cut above M1 / Syntec / etc, but I've seen 
some oil analysis reports lately that put it slightly below M1.

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Re: [MBZ] How about an oil thread to keep your minds off of the hurricane?

2018-09-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I started using Valvoline synthetic in my pickup. At around 6,000 miles into a 
change the engine started to get a little shudder like a miss at idle, change 
the oil and it went away. Also had a little lifter tick that went away on fresh 
oil.
A couple months ago I switched to M1, the tick is much quieter, I'm only about 
2,000 miles into the experiment so we'll see.
-Curt

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Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 So, what is the current feeling about oil? Synthetic is good but is 
Mobil1 really better than other sort of house brand synthetic oils?

I recall someone on here recently suggesting that buying synthetic oil 
from a farm supply place was just as good as brand name oil.

Any thoughts on that?

I have been using Mobil1 in my truck and my wife's car and I need to 
change both and need to buy some oil. What should I buy?

RB


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Re: [MBZ] Bundt to alum steelies

2018-09-12 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
You must be why we have hurricane Florence! Should have called it Dwight!!

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> On Sep 12, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> I used many gallons of stripper during the years that I refinished furniture. 
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:24 PM Dimitri  wrote:
>> Oh and btw, the auto paint shop where I bought the masking tape no longer 
>> sells paint stripper because of voc concerns.  Said that Maine is heading in 
>> direction of California. Now remember, this is a shop that sells automotive 
>> paint! Since when are VOC levels a concern to them?! Told him I’m glad that 
>> I voted for our president!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:40 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > Haha. It was tedious!
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > 
>> >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> You are precise and patient than I am. Cool.
>> >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> >> Wickford RI
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:34 PM Dimitri via Mercedes 
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>> Hubcaps all masked and ready for paint.
>> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bundt to alum steelies

2018-09-12 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I used many gallons of stripper during the years that I refinished
furniture.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:24 PM Dimitri  wrote:

> Oh and btw, the auto paint shop where I bought the masking tape no longer
> sells paint stripper because of voc concerns.  Said that Maine is heading
> in direction of California. Now remember, this is a shop that sells
> automotive paint! Since when are VOC levels a concern to them?! Told him
> I’m glad that I voted for our president!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:40 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Haha. It was tedious!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Dwight Giles 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> You are precise and patient than I am. Cool.
> >> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> >> Wickford RI
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:34 PM Dimitri via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> Hubcaps all masked and ready for paint.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] How about an oil thread to keep your minds off of the hurricane?

2018-09-12 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I haven't seen any research on this list to support the claim that farm
store synthetic is as good as the elixir of M1. Many of us have
testimonials about M1 but that seems to be about it.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So, what is the current feeling about oil? Synthetic is good but is
> Mobil1 really better than other sort of house brand synthetic oils?
>
> I recall someone on here recently suggesting that buying synthetic oil
> from a farm supply place was just as good as brand name oil.
>
> Any thoughts on that?
>
> I have been using Mobil1 in my truck and my wife's car and I need to
> change both and need to buy some oil. What should I buy?
>
> RB
>
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Re: [MBZ] Bundt to alum steelies

2018-09-12 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Oh and btw, the auto paint shop where I bought the masking tape no longer sells 
paint stripper because of voc concerns.  Said that Maine is heading in 
direction of California. Now remember, this is a shop that sells automotive 
paint! Since when are VOC levels a concern to them?! Told him I’m glad that I 
voted for our president!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:40 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Haha. It was tedious!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>> 
>> You are precise and patient than I am. Cool.
>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:34 PM Dimitri via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Hubcaps all masked and ready for paint.
>>> 
>>> 
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[MBZ] How about an oil thread to keep your minds off of the hurricane?

2018-09-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
So, what is the current feeling about oil? Synthetic is good but is 
Mobil1 really better than other sort of house brand synthetic oils?


I recall someone on here recently suggesting that buying synthetic oil 
from a farm supply place was just as good as brand name oil.


Any thoughts on that?

I have been using Mobil1 in my truck and my wife's car and I need to 
change both and need to buy some oil. What should I buy?


RB


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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:52:36 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I kinda wonder if it is all just media hype. 
> Like last year's hurricane that hit Florida. 

Check out

http://www.drroyspencer.com/
The 30 Costliest U.S. Hurricanes Have Not Increased in Intensity Over Time


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Re: [MBZ] Bundt to alum steelies

2018-09-12 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Haha. It was tedious!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> You are precise and patient than I am. Cool.
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:34 PM Dimitri via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> Hubcaps all masked and ready for paint.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Bundt to alum steelies

2018-09-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I understand.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 4:23 PM Dimitri  wrote:

> Unfortunately, I don’t have the special tool and just wanted to get this
> over with before another more pressing project takes its place!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The special tool has a tristar as part of the masking apparatus so you
> can
> > spray everything at once..
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:50 PM Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:33:27 -0400 Dimitri via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hubcaps all masked and ready for paint.
> >>
> >> So you are going to put a coat (coats) of paint over the star and then
> >> mask again and paint the stars?
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Bundt to alum steelies

2018-09-12 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Unfortunately, I don’t have the special tool and just wanted to get this over 
with before another more pressing project takes its place!

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> On Sep 12, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The special tool has a tristar as part of the masking apparatus so you can
> spray everything at once..
> 
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:50 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:33:27 -0400 Dimitri via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hubcaps all masked and ready for paint.
>> 
>> So you are going to put a coat (coats) of paint over the star and then
>> mask again and paint the stars?
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Florence's Current NHC Track Forecast

2018-09-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
SO delete my previous post.  The latest Accuweather track is sending Flo
WSW across So CAR toward the GA border.
https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/dangerous-category-3-hurricane-florence-to-blast-carolinas-with-perilous-conditions-for-over-24-hours/70006011


On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 4:19 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> At best, a SWAG [Scientific Wild Ass Guess]... but I figure I may as well
> posit what I think will happen...
>
> Based on the temp loads I see at a median altitude of 3000 ft, my
> prediction would be that it meanders into Florida for a bit.
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Ok, so it comes ashore, dawdles for awhile, drops 40" of rain on NC
> coastal
> > areas, and then starts to meander S along the coastline.  At some point
> as
> > determined by steering currents (??) Florence veers W and inland,
> > presumably across northern (??) Georgia, and then turns to the NE.
> >
> > This strikes me as very erratic and I am therefore skeptical
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:53 PM Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 12:40:54 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Here is a link to satellite infrared  image for East coast, aviation
> > > > weather.
> > > >
> > > > With color, you can see the heat energy available over the area of
> > > > expected landfall.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > https://www.aviationweather.gov/satellite/plot?region=clt;
> > type=ircol=
> > >
> > > Is that showing heat, or water vapor (which is what I think the
> > > green-to-blue colors are).
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Bundt to alum steelies

2018-09-12 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
They are all set. Paint, remove the tape and they are done!

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> On Sep 12, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:33:27 -0400 Dimitri via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hubcaps all masked and ready for paint.
> 
> So you are going to put a coat (coats) of paint over the star and then
> mask again and paint the stars?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Florence's Current NHC Track Forecast

2018-09-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
At best, a SWAG [Scientific Wild Ass Guess]... but I figure I may as well
posit what I think will happen...

Based on the temp loads I see at a median altitude of 3000 ft, my
prediction would be that it meanders into Florida for a bit.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ok, so it comes ashore, dawdles for awhile, drops 40" of rain on NC coastal
> areas, and then starts to meander S along the coastline.  At some point as
> determined by steering currents (??) Florence veers W and inland,
> presumably across northern (??) Georgia, and then turns to the NE.
>
> This strikes me as very erratic and I am therefore skeptical
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:53 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 12:40:54 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Here is a link to satellite infrared  image for East coast, aviation
> > > weather.
> > >
> > > With color, you can see the heat energy available over the area of
> > > expected landfall.
> > >
> > >
> > https://www.aviationweather.gov/satellite/plot?region=clt;
> type=ircol=
> >
> > Is that showing heat, or water vapor (which is what I think the
> > green-to-blue colors are).
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Bundt to alum steelies

2018-09-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'll send you Dimitri's shipping address to save you time and aggravation.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 4:11 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Your work inspires me... I have a set being prepped for the conversion from
> "Bunt-ugly" to steel wheels with hubcaps, the caps I have, are of course,
> the wrong color for the car, so must be "painted to match".
>
> Back to the project list that never ends... hahah.
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > You are precise and patient than I am. Cool.
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:34 PM Dimitri via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hubcaps all masked and ready for paint.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Florence's Current NHC Track Forecast

2018-09-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Ok, so it comes ashore, dawdles for awhile, drops 40" of rain on NC coastal
areas, and then starts to meander S along the coastline.  At some point as
determined by steering currents (??) Florence veers W and inland,
presumably across northern (??) Georgia, and then turns to the NE.

This strikes me as very erratic and I am therefore skeptical


On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:53 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 12:40:54 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Here is a link to satellite infrared  image for East coast, aviation
> > weather.
> >
> > With color, you can see the heat energy available over the area of
> > expected landfall.
> >
> >
> https://www.aviationweather.gov/satellite/plot?region=clt=ircol=
>
> Is that showing heat, or water vapor (which is what I think the
> green-to-blue colors are).
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Bundt to alum steelies

2018-09-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Your work inspires me... I have a set being prepped for the conversion from
"Bunt-ugly" to steel wheels with hubcaps, the caps I have, are of course,
the wrong color for the car, so must be "painted to match".

Back to the project list that never ends... hahah.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> You are precise and patient than I am. Cool.
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Re: [MBZ] Florence's Current NHC Track Forecast

2018-09-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
https://www.aviationweather.gov/windtemp/plot

This aviation weather map will give you both temp and wind at your chosen
altitude [just play with the scroll bar at top of page for a bit to teach
yourself how it works]

Big heat bubble loaded into the area of possible storm track, which
supports my comments previous about the storm follows the heat energy...



On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 12:40:54 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Here is a link to satellite infrared  image for East coast, aviation
> > weather.
> >
> > With color, you can see the heat energy available over the area of
> > expected landfall.
> >
> > https://www.aviationweather.gov/satellite/plot?region=clt;
> type=ircol=
>
> Is that showing heat, or water vapor (which is what I think the
> green-to-blue colors are).
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Bundt to alum steelies

2018-09-12 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
You are precise and patient than I am. Cool.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
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Re: [MBZ] Florence's Current NHC Track Forecast

2018-09-12 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Hurricanes are notorious for having difficult tracks to predict. I 
remember which one it was but there was one that crossed Fl from the Atl 
to the Gulf then turned and recrossed Fl from the gulf to the Atl.   
Hurricanes are always changing directions


LarryT


On 09/12/2018 3:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

This is unprecedented according to my meteorologist colleague.  No tracking
history of any hurricane making landfall so farHurrican north and then turning 
to
the south.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


As the attached picture shows, the National Hurricane Center now shows
Florence's track after landfall turning to the west-southwest.

The picture is from


https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/092830.shtml?cone#contents


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Re: [MBZ] Bundt to alum steelies

2018-09-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The special tool has a tristar as part of the masking apparatus so you can
spray everything at once..

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:50 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:33:27 -0400 Dimitri via Mercedes
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>
> > Hubcaps all masked and ready for paint.
>
> So you are going to put a coat (coats) of paint over the star and then
> mask again and paint the stars?
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Re: [MBZ] Florence's Current NHC Track Forecast

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 12:40:54 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Here is a link to satellite infrared  image for East coast, aviation
> weather.
> 
> With color, you can see the heat energy available over the area of
> expected landfall.
> 
> https://www.aviationweather.gov/satellite/plot?region=clt=ircol=

Is that showing heat, or water vapor (which is what I think the
green-to-blue colors are).


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Bundt to alum steelies

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:33:27 -0400 Dimitri via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Hubcaps all masked and ready for paint.

So you are going to put a coat (coats) of paint over the star and then
mask again and paint the stars?


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Re: [MBZ] Don't use cheap 722.6 connector bushings

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 14:25:29 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Same here -

I did somewhat better learning German -- and didn't really learn English
until I learned German.


Craig


> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:20 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Learning the German language defeated me, despite my heritage.  Too
> > many cases, genders, capitalizations, subjects where there is no verb
> > - oh wait - there it is at the end of the sentence!
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:57 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In German there's "nichts" (indefinite pronoun) and "das
> > > Nichts" (noun). Think "nothing" vs "nothingness".
> > >
> > > Another way of looking at it: "viel Lärm um nichts" (a lot of noise
> > > about nothing), in which case you could not imagine "viel Lärm um
> > > das Nichts"
> > (a
> > > lot of noise about nothingness).
> > >
> > >
> > > At 10:42 AM -0700 9/12/18, Greg Fiorentino wrote:
> > > I yield to your superior understanding of German grammar!
> > >
> > > Merriam-Webster lists "nothing" as either a noun, pronoun, or adverb
> > > depending on usage. Perhaps because I think more in a mathematical
> > > or logical structure, I equate "nothing" with "zero", and I see it
> > > as a
> > noun.
> > > It's hard for me to understand how the German meaning could be a
> > different
> > > grammatical part of speech than the English.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > From: David Bruckmann [mailto:dbruckm...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:10 PM
> > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > Cc: greg.fiorent...@comcast.net
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Don't use cheap 722.6 connector bushings
> > >
> > > Actually, in German and in this context, nichts is an indefinite
> > > pronoun, not a noun.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sep 10, 2018, Greg Fiorentino wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > WELL! I can be even pickier than you!
> > >
> > > Das Beste oder Nichts.
> > >
> > > "Nichts" is a noun.
> > >
> > > Greg
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Re: [MBZ] Florence's Current NHC Track Forecast

2018-09-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Add to the satellite infrared link I just posted, this link which shows
winds, and you get a picture of the Westerly air flow which is running
across the Gulf of Mexico, plus the Southerly air flow down the East coast,
contrary to "normal" air flow pattern of North East along the Gulf Stream.

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-82.05,35.24,1230/loc=-108.397,15.546

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 12:40 PM, G Mann  wrote:

> Here is a link to satellite infrared  image for East coast, aviation
> weather.
>
> With color, you can see the heat energy available over the area of
> expected landfall.
>
> https://www.aviationweather.gov/satellite/plot?region=clt=ircol=
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> This is unprecedented according to my meteorologist colleague.  No
>> tracking
>> history of any hurricane making landfall so far north and then turning to
>> the south.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM Craig via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > As the attached picture shows, the National Hurricane Center now shows
>> > Florence's track after landfall turning to the west-southwest.
>> >
>> > The picture is from
>> >
>> >
>> > https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/092830.
>> shtml?cone#contents
>> >
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Florence's Current NHC Track Forecast

2018-09-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Here is a link to satellite infrared  image for East coast, aviation
weather.

With color, you can see the heat energy available over the area of expected
landfall.

https://www.aviationweather.gov/satellite/plot?region=clt=ircol=

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 12:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This is unprecedented according to my meteorologist colleague.  No tracking
> history of any hurricane making landfall so far north and then turning to
> the south.
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM Craig via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > As the attached picture shows, the National Hurricane Center now shows
> > Florence's track after landfall turning to the west-southwest.
> >
> > The picture is from
> >
> >
> > https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/
> 092830.shtml?cone#contents
> >
> >
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[MBZ] Bundt to alum steelies

2018-09-12 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
Hubcaps all masked and ready for paint.



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Re: [MBZ] Don't use cheap 722.6 connector bushings

2018-09-12 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Same here -

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:20 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Learning the German language defeated me, despite my heritage.  Too
> many cases, genders, capitalizations, subjects where there is no verb - oh
> wait - there it is at the end of the sentence!
>
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:57 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > In German there's "nichts" (indefinite pronoun) and "das Nichts" (noun).
> > Think "nothing" vs "nothingness".
> >
> > Another way of looking at it: "viel Lärm um nichts" (a lot of noise about
> > nothing), in which case you could not imagine "viel Lärm um das Nichts"
> (a
> > lot of noise about nothingness).
> >
> >
> > At 10:42 AM -0700 9/12/18, Greg Fiorentino wrote:
> > I yield to your superior understanding of German grammar!
> >
> > Merriam-Webster lists "nothing" as either a noun, pronoun, or adverb
> > depending on usage. Perhaps because I think more in a mathematical or
> > logical structure, I equate "nothing" with "zero", and I see it as a
> noun.
> > It's hard for me to understand how the German meaning could be a
> different
> > grammatical part of speech than the English.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > From: David Bruckmann [mailto:dbruckm...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:10 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: greg.fiorent...@comcast.net
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Don't use cheap 722.6 connector bushings
> >
> > Actually, in German and in this context, nichts is an indefinite pronoun,
> > not a noun.
> >
> >
> > On Sep 10, 2018, Greg Fiorentino wrote:
> >
> >
> > WELL! I can be even pickier than you!
> >
> > Das Beste oder Nichts.
> >
> > "Nichts" is a noun.
> >
> > Greg
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 2007 E550

2018-09-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What's wrong with it?

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 3:13 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 14:07:41 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Nice car you could probably get for $6500 right now. Motivated seller,
> > or so it seems. It’s an auction car, so no history, make sure to check
> > on the idler gear. No personal interest, was looking at it and decided
> > to share:
> >
> > https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/6684398577.html
>
> Where is the idler gear?
>
> Is that the one we heard about recently which has its teeth wear off
> because it was made out of material not up to the task?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:52:36 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I kinda wonder if it is all just media hype. 
> Like last year's hurricane that hit Florida. 

From a meterologist on another email list:
--
There is absolutely no truth to anything in this article. None.
Participating in the spreading of this fake climate hysteria is
inexcusable for anyone who calls himself a scientist or has training in
atmospheric science such as Kevin Trenberth as there is no metric that
can be used to distinguish any of these hurricanes in the present to
anything in the past that proves atmospheric CO2 is the cause of any of
it. 

It is no wonder that so many have lost all respect for those that
participate in spreading fake, untrue and unprovable claims about severe
weather, tying it to "climate change" whose definition has been expanded
by these kooks to include anything they choose to spread another story
full of hysteria and falsehoods.

Mr. Trenberth, I don't know how you sleep at night. It looks as though
you have no conscience with respect to maintaining the truth. Harvey's
atmospheric characteristics were no different than many other hurricanes
of the past and there is no metric you can use that proved otherwise.
Harvey's flooding rains were caused by the storm being synoptically
slowed as it made landfall by surrounding weather systems which as anyone
knows is a normal occurance given the limitless combinations of weather
patterns that are produced continuously by the chaotic atmospheric system
that we well understand that produces our daily weather. When a tropical
system slows or stalls for those reasons and loses its ability to induct
additional water vapor from the tropical ocean, the result is a cooling
of the system as it loses energy. That produces torrential rainfall and
if the system is slowed, it is concentrated over the area that the
stalling occurs in.

The sea surface temperatures in the Atlantic and Caribbean basin
are typically warmer in the cold phase of the PDO [Pacific Decadal
Oscillation] as we are in, and we find that measurements of sea surface
temperatures and resulting surface air dewpoint temperatures are no
different now than they have been for many decades.

This story therefore, is complete crap, with Trenberth's name attached to
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Re: [MBZ] Don't use cheap 722.6 connector bushings

2018-09-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Learning the German language defeated me, despite my heritage.  Too
many cases, genders, capitalizations, subjects where there is no verb - oh
wait - there it is at the end of the sentence!

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:57 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In German there's "nichts" (indefinite pronoun) and "das Nichts" (noun).
> Think "nothing" vs "nothingness".
>
> Another way of looking at it: "viel Lärm um nichts" (a lot of noise about
> nothing), in which case you could not imagine "viel Lärm um das Nichts" (a
> lot of noise about nothingness).
>
>
> At 10:42 AM -0700 9/12/18, Greg Fiorentino wrote:
> I yield to your superior understanding of German grammar!
>
> Merriam-Webster lists "nothing" as either a noun, pronoun, or adverb
> depending on usage. Perhaps because I think more in a mathematical or
> logical structure, I equate "nothing" with "zero", and I see it as a noun.
> It's hard for me to understand how the German meaning could be a different
> grammatical part of speech than the English.
>
> Greg
>
> From: David Bruckmann [mailto:dbruckm...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:10 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Don't use cheap 722.6 connector bushings
>
> Actually, in German and in this context, nichts is an indefinite pronoun,
> not a noun.
>
>
> On Sep 10, 2018, Greg Fiorentino wrote:
>
>
> WELL! I can be even pickier than you!
>
> Das Beste oder Nichts.
>
> "Nichts" is a noun.
>
> Greg
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Re: [MBZ] South Carolina Mandatory Evacuation Order

2018-09-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yes, but despite this the storm headed the opposite direction.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:13 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > G wrote:
>
> > Hurricanes always follow the path of heat energy,
>
> > If you want to find the storm track, look for air temperature at
> > altitudes and look for hot air...
>
> Hot air!!?!
>
> Is congress in session?
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Re: [MBZ] The 240D I traded for the 124 Cab

2018-09-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No.  I am spoiled by my turbodiesel.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 2:11 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Kaleb wrote:
>
> > Anybody want a 240D?
>
> I don't remember the particulars.  Year?  Transmission?
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Re: [MBZ] 2007 E550

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 14:07:41 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Nice car you could probably get for $6500 right now. Motivated seller,
> or so it seems. It’s an auction car, so no history, make sure to check
> on the idler gear. No personal interest, was looking at it and decided
> to share:
> 
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/6684398577.html

Where is the idler gear?

Is that the one we heard about recently which has its teeth wear off
because it was made out of material not up to the task?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Florence's Current NHC Track Forecast

2018-09-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
This is unprecedented according to my meteorologist colleague.  No tracking
history of any hurricane making landfall so far north and then turning to
the south.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> As the attached picture shows, the National Hurricane Center now shows
> Florence's track after landfall turning to the west-southwest.
>
> The picture is from
>
>
> https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/092830.shtml?cone#contents
>
>
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[MBZ] Blue green metallic 560SL on BAT

2018-09-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I used to call this nickel green.  Pretty color.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-mercedes-benz-560sl-56/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2018-09-12
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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
No hype when you’re talking Irma, just the fickleness and unpredictability of 
Mother Nature.

-D


> On Sep 12, 2018, at 2:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I kinda wonder if it is all just media hype. 
> Like last year's hurricane that hit Florida. 
> 
> And regarding WaPo opinion pieces, if anyone follows tennis, read this for a 
> laugh. 
> 
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/tennis/at-us-open-power-of-serena-williams-and-naomi-osaka-is-overshadowed-by-an-umpires-power-play/2018/09/08/edbf46c8-b3b4-11e8-a20b-5f4f84429666_story.html?utm_term=.0ffeaf41094
> 
> Media bias much?
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] factory color?

2018-09-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I know that color exists for a 1974 450SE I saw at an MBCA Concours a
decade ago.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 12:04 AM clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That is not natural according to the dealer paint chart in my file from
> 1974
>
>
> clay monroe
> redgh...@comcast.net
>
>
>
> > On Sep 11, 2018, at 7:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I kinda like it
> >
> >
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/sl-mercedes-convertible/6692038392.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Don't use cheap 722.6 connector bushings

2018-09-12 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
In German there's "nichts" (indefinite pronoun) and "das Nichts" (noun). Think 
"nothing" vs "nothingness".

Another way of looking at it: "viel Lärm um nichts" (a lot of noise about 
nothing), in which case you could not imagine "viel Lärm um das Nichts" (a lot 
of noise about nothingness).


At 10:42 AM -0700 9/12/18, Greg Fiorentino wrote:
I yield to your superior understanding of German grammar!
 
Merriam-Webster lists "nothing" as either a noun, pronoun, or adverb depending 
on usage. Perhaps because I think more in a mathematical or logical structure, 
I equate "nothing" with "zero", and I see it as a noun. It's hard for me to 
understand how the German meaning could be a different grammatical part of 
speech than the English.
 
Greg
 
From: David Bruckmann [mailto:dbruckm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:10 PM
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Cc: greg.fiorent...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Don't use cheap 722.6 connector bushings
 
Actually, in German and in this context, nichts is an indefinite pronoun, not a 
noun.
 
 
On Sep 10, 2018, Greg Fiorentino wrote:


WELL! I can be even pickier than you!

Das Beste oder Nichts.

"Nichts" is a noun.

Greg


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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I kinda wonder if it is all just media hype. 
Like last year's hurricane that hit Florida. 

And regarding WaPo opinion pieces, if anyone follows tennis, read this for a 
laugh. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/tennis/at-us-open-power-of-serena-williams-and-naomi-osaka-is-overshadowed-by-an-umpires-power-play/2018/09/08/edbf46c8-b3b4-11e8-a20b-5f4f84429666_story.html?utm_term=.0ffeaf41094

Media bias much?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I was watching the NBC news last night, and the graphic was showing the storm 
dropping to a "2" as it hit the coast, but the talking heads were saying it 
would strengthen.  ???

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Would it be too political if I pointed out that Trump made the
> hurricane? (/sarcasm)
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/another-hurricane-is-about-to-batter-our-coast-trump-is-complicit/2018/09/11/ccaed766-b5fb-11e8-a7b5-adaaa5b2a57f_story.html

Oh, good grief!

The article says,

If the Category 4 hurricane does, indeed, hit the Carolinas
this week, it will be the strongest storm on record to land
so far north.

H ...

I wonder if that is really true. I could research that statement, but I'm
quite busy now.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 13:41:43 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Would it be too political if I pointed out that Trump made the
> hurricane? (/sarcasm)
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/another-hurricane-is-about-to-batter-our-coast-trump-is-complicit/2018/09/11/ccaed766-b5fb-11e8-a7b5-adaaa5b2a57f_story.html

Oh, good grief!

The article says,

If the Category 4 hurricane does, indeed, hit the Carolinas
this week, it will be the strongest storm on record to land
so far north.

H ...

I wonder if that is really true. I could research that statement, but I'm
quite busy now.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] South Carolina Mandatory Evacuation Order

2018-09-12 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> G wrote:

> Hurricanes always follow the path of heat energy, 

> If you want to find the storm track, look for air temperature at
> altitudes and look for hot air...

Hot air!!?!

Is congress in session?

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Re: [MBZ] The 240D I traded for the 124 Cab

2018-09-12 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Kaleb wrote:

> Anybody want a 240D?

I don't remember the particulars.  Year?  Transmission?

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[MBZ] 2007 E550

2018-09-12 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Nice car you could probably get for $6500 right now. Motivated seller, or so it 
seems. It’s an auction car, so no history, make sure to check on the idler 
gear. No personal interest, was looking at it and decided to share:

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/6684398577.html

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yes, but I’m still gonna blame him, he is so incredibly fiendishly powerful 
that in less than 2 years he has mastered the control of a CAT4 hurricane. 
Perhaps he is using the Bushcheneyhalliburton weather control machine they used 
on Katrina. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2018, at 1:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Would it be too political if I pointed out that Trump made the hurricane? 
> (/sarcasm)
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/another-hurricane-is-about-to-batter-our-coast-trump-is-complicit/2018/09/11/ccaed766-b5fb-11e8-a7b5-adaaa5b2a57f_story.html
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Re: [MBZ] Don't use cheap 722.6 connector bushings

2018-09-12 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I yield to your superior understanding of German grammar!

 

Merriam-Webster lists "nothing" as either a noun, pronoun, or adverb depending 
on usage. Perhaps because I think more in a mathematical or logical structure, 
I equate "nothing" with "zero", and I see it as a noun. It's hard for me to 
understand how the German meaning could be a different grammatical part of 
speech than the English.

 

Greg

 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 10:10 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: greg.fiorent...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Don't use cheap 722.6 connector bushings

 

Actually, in German and in this context, nichts is an indefinite pronoun, not a 
noun. 

 

 

On Sep 10, 2018, Greg Fiorentino wrote:


WELL! I can be even pickier than you!

Das Beste oder Nichts.

"Nichts" is a noun.

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Would it be too political if I pointed out that Trump made the hurricane? 
(/sarcasm)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/another-hurricane-is-about-to-batter-our-coast-trump-is-complicit/2018/09/11/ccaed766-b5fb-11e8-a7b5-adaaa5b2a57f_story.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 12/09/2018 9:16 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Well the latest projections have me rethinking my boarding decision 
from yesterday when I put all the plywood away, looks like I need to 
get it out again and start putting it up as Flo might turn south and 
make a coastal run down our way.  And it is huge so we are sure to get 
wind and rain as it meanders.  Fun times...



Have you ever considered installing some form of shutters that would 
remain attached to the buildings so that all you had to do when a storm 
threatens is to close them and lock them down? Given the frequency with 
which you folks seem to have to batten down the hatches, it would seem 
to me that you should try to make it a quick and easy process. I am 
planning to do something similar with the cottage at the lake. Every 
fall we screw panels over all of the windows and every spring we remove 
them. If I convert them into hinged shutters, it will be easier and 
faster and I won't have to store them in the summer. I can also close 
the shutters over the larger and more exposed windows between visits if 
I think it a good idea.


RB



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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:28:24 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Us too, I'm going to start boarding up today, make a decision to leave
> or not later.

The NHC is now issuing two advisories per day; perhaps they will increase
the frequency of the advisories as Florence comes near to the shore.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Us too, I'm going to start boarding up today, make a decision to leave or
not later.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:17 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well the latest projections have me rethinking my boarding decision from
> yesterday when I put all the plywood away, looks like I need to get it
> out again and start putting it up as Flo might turn south and make a
> coastal run down our way.  And it is huge so we are sure to get wind and
> rain as it meanders.  Fun times...
>
> On a positive note my buddy and I got our water monitoring probes
> deployed at 3 locations around the Island yesterday evening, set up to
> record data for 15 days every 10 minutes so we will get water depth,
> temp, pH, turbidity, chlorophyll, and salinity. We'll get tidal surge
> data and whatever happens with the water levels and quality from the
> rains.  We have been fighting stupid development decisions that are
> destroying the Island, this will help us with SCIENCE!
>
> --
> --FT (who is data-driven)
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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Well, it's just me and my ladders and my power drivers...

We have some fairly old YSI instruments onto which various sensors can 
be mounted.  They have internal batteries and memory and can run for up 
to 100 days while logging data from the sensors.  When I was setting 
them up the internal files still stored in memory (having sat for a LONG 
time) were from 6 and 7 years ago, so the things sat since then but 
fired right up and worked fine, data were still good in them.  We called 
the company and talked to an engineer there who helped us with a coupla 
things we couldn't figure out.


This is a newer version but basically the same thing 
https://www.ysi.com/6920-v2-2  They are spendy, several $k.  These were 
NOAA "surplus" had been sitting in a storage room for a long time but 
had all the stuff with them, including the hand-held units for field 
programming and downloading data and a bunch of extra sensors.  Probably 
a good $50k worth of stuff, your tax dollars at work!  My professor 
buddy got them from someone he knows who works at the marine lab here, 
she was glad they were going to get used for something useful.  They had 
actually used them in some similar study up the coast a bit.


Here is one we put in a tidal creek near a friend's property, it drains 
a fairly developed area.  We put one in a another branch of the larger 
creek it drains into, across the road, which drains an undeveloped area, 
so we will get some good comparisons of how the water quality is 
different between the two distinct watersheds. We attached some 4" PVC 
field drain pipe to a stake and a root here, and to a dock on the other 
one, and then dropped the sonde into the pipe.  The water can flow 
through the pipe while protecting the instrument.  It was just about low 
tide when we put it out, so it was not down in the water in that creek, 
hard to slog out into it through the pluff mud, but it will be covered 
when the tide gets up, or when the rain runoff is flowing.  Tide will 
get up 6ft or more in there from where it was in the pic.


My buddy has a nice (surplus) weather station we will set up near these 
2 units, so we will have a lot of good weather and rainfall data to 
correlate with the water readings.  SCIENCE!!!  Take that Flo!  Turns 
out there are some Weather Underground hobby stations close by too, we 
can get their data for comparison.  Fun times.


--FT



On 9/12/18 10:39 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:16:22 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


Well the latest projections have me rethinking my boarding decision
from yesterday when I put all the plywood away, looks like I need to
get it out again and start putting it up as Flo might turn south and
make a coastal run down our way.  And it is huge so we are sure to get
wind and rain as it meanders.  Fun times...

As the picture of the email I posted just after you shows, there is now a
significant southward bulge in NHC's possible track as it makes landfall,
even to south Georgia.

So, yes, you should board up. May you have strength and help to do it.

It's interesting to manually step through all of the advisories at
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/092830.shtml?gm_track#contents
to see how their predictions progress. I think they are now counting in
the European predictions more.



On a positive note my buddy and I got our water monitoring probes
deployed at 3 locations around the Island yesterday evening, set up to
record data for 15 days every 10 minutes so we will get water depth,
temp, pH, turbidity, chlorophyll, and salinity. We'll get tidal surge
data and whatever happens with the water levels and quality from the
rains.  We have been fighting stupid development decisions that are
destroying the Island, this will help us with SCIENCE!

Wow, you are prepared! As you might guess, I'm all for the science.
What kind of instruments are you using?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 10:16:22 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Well the latest projections have me rethinking my boarding decision
> from yesterday when I put all the plywood away, looks like I need to
> get it out again and start putting it up as Flo might turn south and
> make a coastal run down our way.  And it is huge so we are sure to get
> wind and rain as it meanders.  Fun times...

As the picture of the email I posted just after you shows, there is now a
significant southward bulge in NHC's possible track as it makes landfall,
even to south Georgia.

So, yes, you should board up. May you have strength and help to do it.

It's interesting to manually step through all of the advisories at
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/092830.shtml?gm_track#contents
to see how their predictions progress. I think they are now counting in
the European predictions more.


> On a positive note my buddy and I got our water monitoring probes 
> deployed at 3 locations around the Island yesterday evening, set up to 
> record data for 15 days every 10 minutes so we will get water depth, 
> temp, pH, turbidity, chlorophyll, and salinity. We'll get tidal surge 
> data and whatever happens with the water levels and quality from the 
> rains.  We have been fighting stupid development decisions that are 
> destroying the Island, this will help us with SCIENCE!

Wow, you are prepared! As you might guess, I'm all for the science.
What kind of instruments are you using?


Craig

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[MBZ] Florence's Current NHC Track Forecast

2018-09-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
As the attached picture shows, the National Hurricane Center now shows
Florence's track after landfall turning to the west-southwest.

The picture is from

https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/092830.shtml?cone#contents


Craig
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[MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-12 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Well the latest projections have me rethinking my boarding decision from 
yesterday when I put all the plywood away, looks like I need to get it 
out again and start putting it up as Flo might turn south and make a 
coastal run down our way.  And it is huge so we are sure to get wind and 
rain as it meanders.  Fun times...


On a positive note my buddy and I got our water monitoring probes 
deployed at 3 locations around the Island yesterday evening, set up to 
record data for 15 days every 10 minutes so we will get water depth, 
temp, pH, turbidity, chlorophyll, and salinity. We'll get tidal surge 
data and whatever happens with the water levels and quality from the 
rains.  We have been fighting stupid development decisions that are 
destroying the Island, this will help us with SCIENCE!


--
--FT (who is data-driven)


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Re: [MBZ] Evacuation routes activated in preparation for Hurricane Florence

2018-09-12 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.  (Or
days/weeks/months, during states of emergency.)

-- Jim
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