Re: [MBZ] Drive shaft is the same as a crank shaft

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Which is why I don't watch TV. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Drive shaft is the same as a crank shaft

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I watched a fun zombie movie last night. Their weapons appeared to have 
unlimited ammunition. 

--FT
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> On May 31, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 9:35 PM:
>> I am watching this movie called black sea or something like that.  These 
>> guys get this old submarine to go out and try to find gold off a wrecked 
>> Nazi sub.  There is an explosion in the engine room and they hit the ocean 
>> floor.  They say it blew out the drive shaft.  They then find the Nazi sub 
>> and pull the drive shaft from it. Except what they pulled was a crank shaft. 
>>  Then then install said crank shaft in their sub and they start it up.  They 
>> show this crank shaft rotating with nothing hooked up to it, as in no rods 
>> or pistons.  Anyway, you would think that would be something easy to be 
>> accurate on.
>> 
> The morons who write scripts these days are so stupid they don't know how 
> stupid they are.  See prior post:
> 
> As previously posted:
> Bliss is being so stupid that you have no idea how much you don't know.   
> Moron: someone so dumb they have no idea how really DUMB they are, but are 
> ready to tell everyone else how to do everything.
> 
> AVG fakebuch user = moron = current crop of script writers = buttercups = 
> snowfakes
> 
> The really sad thing is that of the hundreds on the crew, not one knew what a 
> crankshaft is, and they are all so smug in their "enlightenment" not one 
> could even ask kookgle what is a driveshaft?   That is; assuming there were 
> real actors, and a real crew, and it was not a CGA movie.
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Re: [MBZ] Drive shaft is the same as a crank shaft

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They probably also put used motor oil in their fuel 

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> On May 31, 2019, at 9:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 9:35 PM:
>> I am watching this movie called black sea or something like that.  These 
>> guys get this old submarine to go out and try to find gold off a wrecked 
>> Nazi sub.  There is an explosion in the engine room and they hit the ocean 
>> floor.  They say it blew out the drive shaft.  They then find the Nazi sub 
>> and pull the drive shaft from it. Except what they pulled was a crank shaft. 
>>  Then then install said crank shaft in their sub and they start it up.  They 
>> show this crank shaft rotating with nothing hooked up to it, as in no rods 
>> or pistons.  Anyway, you would think that would be something easy to be 
>> accurate on.
>> 
> The morons who write scripts these days are so stupid they don't know how 
> stupid they are.  See prior post:
> 
> As previously posted:
> Bliss is being so stupid that you have no idea how much you don't know.   
> Moron: someone so dumb they have no idea how really DUMB they are, but are 
> ready to tell everyone else how to do everything.
> 
> AVG fakebuch user = moron = current crop of script writers = buttercups = 
> snowfakes
> 
> The really sad thing is that of the hundreds on the crew, not one knew what a 
> crankshaft is, and they are all so smug in their "enlightenment" not one 
> could even ask kookgle what is a driveshaft?   That is; assuming there were 
> real actors, and a real crew, and it was not a CGA movie.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Drive shaft is the same as a crank shaft

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 9:35 PM:
I am watching this movie called black sea or something like that.  
These guys get this old submarine to go out and try to find gold off a 
wrecked Nazi sub.  There is an explosion in the engine room and they 
hit the ocean floor.  They say it blew out the drive shaft.  They then 
find the Nazi sub and pull the drive shaft from it. Except what they 
pulled was a crank shaft.  Then then install said crank shaft in their 
sub and they start it up.  They show this crank shaft rotating with 
nothing hooked up to it, as in no rods or pistons.  Anyway, you would 
think that would be something easy to be accurate on.


The morons who write scripts these days are so stupid they don't know 
how stupid they are.  See prior post:


As previously posted:
Bliss is being so stupid that you have no idea how much you don't 
know.   Moron: someone so dumb they have no idea how really DUMB they 
are, but are ready to tell everyone else how to do everything.


AVG fakebuch user = moron = current crop of script writers = buttercups 
= snowfakes


The really sad thing is that of the hundreds on the crew, not one knew 
what a crankshaft is, and they are all so smug in their "enlightenment" 
not one could even ask kookgle what is a driveshaft?   That is; assuming 
there were real actors, and a real crew, and it was not a CGA movie.


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[MBZ] Drive shaft is the same as a crank shaft

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I am watching this movie called black sea or something like that.  These 
guys get this old submarine to go out and try to find gold off a wrecked 
Nazi sub.  There is an explosion in the engine room and they hit the 
ocean floor.  They say it blew out the drive shaft.  They then find the 
Nazi sub and pull the drive shaft from it. Except what they pulled was a 
crank shaft.  Then then install said crank shaft in their sub and they 
start it up.  They show this crank shaft rotating with nothing hooked up 
to it, as in no rods or pistons.  Anyway, you would think that would be 
something easy to be accurate on.



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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

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That’s a rat snake. Very good to have around though they can be scary. Can 
climb trees too to get tree rats and birds. I saw one today about 4ft long 
crossing my driveway as i was headed out to do errands. 

Last year I was out in the garage workshop sitting at my bench doing something. 
I had a broom or something leaning against it, it started moving. WTF. So I 
stand up to lean over to see what it was and this big corn snake about 5ft long 
pops up. I think we were both startled. I grabbed another stick and was trying 
to lift it up and put it outside but it meandered off into my lumber rack. Now 
these things look a bit like copperheads so this is what I thought it was as I 
know there are copperheads around, and that really had me scared, the damn 
thing was slinking around my garage. But turns out it was a good snake so I 
figured it was keeping the vermin down. 

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> On May 31, 2019, at 9:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> No - let him finish off the mice, then he'll move on. Both you and he will
> be happier this way. It is no threat to you ...
> 
> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:32 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> As I am sitting here the snake is very active.  It sounds like a big
>> snake but I only caught a glimpse of him.  Maybe I should order one of
>> those long pole claw things used to catch snakes and shove him in a
>> pillow case or something and relocate him.
>> 
>>> On 5/31/2019 8:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Kleb wrote:
 Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
 either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.
>>> We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
>>> was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
>>> of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
>>> eyeball to eyeball encounter.
>>> tin
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

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No, they don't chew - they swallow whole. Yes, tape up that hole so neither
one of you gets scared.

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:36 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I do have a hole in the sheet rock above the stove in the kitchen where
> a hood vent is being installed.  Actually my wifes ex father in law was
> doing it them died of cancer.  I guess I need to finish it up.  I
> probably need to go cover and tape it shut in case the snake finds its
> way in thru that hole.  Otherwise I do not see how he could get in.
> They don't chew thru sheet rock do they?
>
> On 5/31/2019 8:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > No - let him finish off the mice, then he'll move on. Both you and he
> will
> > be happier this way. It is no threat to you ...
> >
> > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:32 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> As I am sitting here the snake is very active.  It sounds like a big
> >> snake but I only caught a glimpse of him.  Maybe I should order one of
> >> those long pole claw things used to catch snakes and shove him in a
> >> pillow case or something and relocate him.
> >>
> >> On 5/31/2019 8:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Kleb wrote:
>  Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
>  either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.
> >>> We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
> >>> was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
> >>> of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
> >>> eyeball to eyeball encounter.
> >>> tin
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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Re: [MBZ] I really can't understand how people in a certain fakebook MB group can be such morons

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It just seems like common sense to me.  Of course these are the same 
generation of people who eat tide pods and sniff condoms to get high.


On 5/31/2019 8:44 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Given the amount of ash that collects in my buddy's waste oil burning furnace, 
there isn't a snowball's chance in Hell I'm going to put used oil in my fuel 
tank.
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Re: [MBZ] I really can't understand how people in a certain fakebook MB group can be such morons

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Given the amount of ash that collects in my buddy's waste oil burning furnace, 
there isn't a snowball's chance in Hell I'm going to put used oil in my fuel 
tank.
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Re: [MBZ] I really can't understand how people in a certain fakebook MB group can be such morons

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe years ago when I was dumb before online forums etc I did try it 
once.  It was not too long before that engine had no compression and 
would not start.


Maybe one of you people who are also in that moronic group can come to 
my defense.  Everyone there seems to think I do not know what I am 
talking about.  The master mechanic who runs the list is getting ready 
to start doing it.


On 5/31/2019 8:33 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

Burning used motor oil in your diesel will greatly shorten engine life.  Lots 
of phosphates and organo-metallics that make abrasive ash when burned, just 
like running one with bad valve guides.
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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I do have a hole in the sheet rock above the stove in the kitchen where 
a hood vent is being installed.  Actually my wifes ex father in law was 
doing it them died of cancer.  I guess I need to finish it up.  I 
probably need to go cover and tape it shut in case the snake finds its 
way in thru that hole.  Otherwise I do not see how he could get in.  
They don't chew thru sheet rock do they?


On 5/31/2019 8:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

No - let him finish off the mice, then he'll move on. Both you and he will
be happier this way. It is no threat to you ...

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:32 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


As I am sitting here the snake is very active.  It sounds like a big
snake but I only caught a glimpse of him.  Maybe I should order one of
those long pole claw things used to catch snakes and shove him in a
pillow case or something and relocate him.

On 5/31/2019 8:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Kleb wrote:

Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.

We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
eyeball to eyeball encounter.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] I really can't understand how people in a certain fakebook MB group can be such morons

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Burning used motor oil in your diesel will greatly shorten engine life.  Lots 
of phosphates and organo-metallics that make abrasive ash when burned, just 
like running one with bad valve guides.
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Re: [MBZ] trust fund?

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

The usual wacko sovereign citizen nutty stuff.  These days, probably 
promulgated by Internet Research Agency (aka the KGB, hostile actions section).

Way too much booze and weed combined with serious mental health issues, it 
kicks up fairly regularly along with flying cars and dirigibles.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

[OK Don via Mercedes]

No - let him finish off the mice, then he'll move on. Both you and he will
be happier this way. It is no threat to you ...

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:32 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> As I am sitting here the snake is very active.  It sounds like a big
> snake but I only caught a glimpse of him.  Maybe I should order one of
> those long pole claw things used to catch snakes and shove him in a
> pillow case or something and relocate him.
>
> On 5/31/2019 8:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
> > Kleb wrote:
> >> Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
> >> either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.
> > We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
> > was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
> > of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
> > eyeball to eyeball encounter.
> > tin
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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

[OK Don via Mercedes]

What Dan said - we have a few different kinds of black snakes (though none
in the house that we know of) - they are pretty much "rat snakes" - good to
have around. If it doesn't find food in your attic, it will leave of it's
own accord.

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 8:21 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> We have black snakes all over the place, and they’re good non-venomous
> snakes. They eat rodents and small animals, so if there’s one up there he
> must have a food source. Probably likes the warmth of the attic, too.
>
> I would leave him alone. He’s doing good work.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 31, 2019, at 9:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am sitting here minding my own business and I hear something moving
> around in the attic right above me.  It seemed to sound fairly large.  I
> suspected it was a large mouse or something.  I go up into the attic and
> after a while I hear it and zero in on the location, but do not see
> anything.  I then spotted the insulation moving around.  It sounds like
> whatever it was is between the sheet rock and the paper backing of the
> insulation.  I start poking it with a stick and move the insulation around
> to get down to bare sheetrock.  By this time it moved over a little bit. I
> was able to peel back the insulation where I caught a glimpse of a big
> black snake.  I could not see a head or really stuck around long enough to
> see any markings that I recall.  I decided it was time to pack it up and
> head out of the attic.  I am thinking this snake has been up there for a
> while as the kid says he has heard something up there at night.  I also do
> not see any signs of mice up there either.  Being out in the country we get
> mice on occasion and I put poison bars up there which knocks them down.
> The bars have not been touched so that tells me there are little to no mice
> up there currently.  I suspect this might be a non poisonous snake that
> eats mice, could be the same as the one I found in the shop last year.
> Should I leave it up there so it can eat mice, should I get rid of it?  How
> do I go about that.  Do I need to call somebody?  Doing battle with a snake
> in the shop is one thing where I can move quick.  Crawling around in the
> attic where I can't move around very fast is a whole different deal.
>

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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

As I am sitting here the snake is very active.  It sounds like a big 
snake but I only caught a glimpse of him.  Maybe I should order one of 
those long pole claw things used to catch snakes and shove him in a 
pillow case or something and relocate him.


On 5/31/2019 8:29 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Kleb wrote:

Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.

We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
eyeball to eyeball encounter.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Kleb wrote:
> Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea
> either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.

We had the same situation years ago.  My son went up there to see.  It
was a family of racoons.  He saw mama racoon eye to eye.  The family
of racoons were gone by the next day.  It seems they did not like the
eyeball to eyeball encounter.
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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea but hell the wife is freaked out. I am not too keen on the idea 
either.  Maybe he will leave on his own after a while.


On 5/31/2019 8:20 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

We have black snakes all over the place, and they’re good non-venomous snakes. 
They eat rodents and small animals, so if there’s one up there he must have a 
food source. Probably likes the warmth of the attic, too.

I would leave him alone. He’s doing good work.

-D



On May 31, 2019, at 9:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I am sitting here minding my own business and I hear something moving around in 
the attic right above me.  It seemed to sound fairly large.  I suspected it was 
a large mouse or something.  I go up into the attic and after a while I hear it 
and zero in on the location, but do not see anything.  I then spotted the 
insulation moving around.  It sounds like whatever it was is between the sheet 
rock and the paper backing of the insulation.  I start poking it with a stick 
and move the insulation around to get down to bare sheetrock.  By this time it 
moved over a little bit. I was able to peel back the insulation where I caught 
a glimpse of a big black snake.  I could not see a head or really stuck around 
long enough to see any markings that I recall.  I decided it was time to pack 
it up and head out of the attic.  I am thinking this snake has been up there 
for a while as the kid says he has heard something up there at night.  I also 
do not see any signs of mice up there either.  Being out in the country we get 
mice on occasion and I put poison bars up there which knocks them down.  The 
bars have not been touched so that tells me there are little to no mice up 
there currently.  I suspect this might be a non poisonous snake that eats mice, 
could be the same as the one I found in the shop last year.  Should I leave it 
up there so it can eat mice, should I get rid of it?  How do I go about that.  
Do I need to call somebody?  Doing battle with a snake in the shop is one thing 
where I can move quick.  Crawling around in the attic where I can't move around 
very fast is a whole different deal.


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Re: [MBZ] Snakes in the attic

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We have black snakes all over the place, and they’re good non-venomous snakes. 
They eat rodents and small animals, so if there’s one up there he must have a 
food source. Probably likes the warmth of the attic, too.

I would leave him alone. He’s doing good work.

-D


> On May 31, 2019, at 9:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am sitting here minding my own business and I hear something moving around 
> in the attic right above me.  It seemed to sound fairly large.  I suspected 
> it was a large mouse or something.  I go up into the attic and after a while 
> I hear it and zero in on the location, but do not see anything.  I then 
> spotted the insulation moving around.  It sounds like whatever it was is 
> between the sheet rock and the paper backing of the insulation.  I start 
> poking it with a stick and move the insulation around to get down to bare 
> sheetrock.  By this time it moved over a little bit. I was able to peel back 
> the insulation where I caught a glimpse of a big black snake.  I could not 
> see a head or really stuck around long enough to see any markings that I 
> recall.  I decided it was time to pack it up and head out of the attic.  I am 
> thinking this snake has been up there for a while as the kid says he has 
> heard something up there at night.  I also do not see any signs of mice up 
> there either.  Being out in the country we get mice on occasion and I put 
> poison bars up there which knocks them down.  The bars have not been touched 
> so that tells me there are little to no mice up there currently.  I suspect 
> this might be a non poisonous snake that eats mice, could be the same as the 
> one I found in the shop last year.  Should I leave it up there so it can eat 
> mice, should I get rid of it?  How do I go about that.  Do I need to call 
> somebody?  Doing battle with a snake in the shop is one thing where I can 
> move quick.  Crawling around in the attic where I can't move around very fast 
> is a whole different deal.
> 
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[MBZ] Snakes in the attic

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I am sitting here minding my own business and I hear something moving 
around in the attic right above me.  It seemed to sound fairly large.  I 
suspected it was a large mouse or something.  I go up into the attic and 
after a while I hear it and zero in on the location, but do not see 
anything.  I then spotted the insulation moving around.  It sounds like 
whatever it was is between the sheet rock and the paper backing of the 
insulation.  I start poking it with a stick and move the insulation 
around to get down to bare sheetrock.  By this time it moved over a 
little bit. I was able to peel back the insulation where I caught a 
glimpse of a big black snake.  I could not see a head or really stuck 
around long enough to see any markings that I recall.  I decided it was 
time to pack it up and head out of the attic.  I am thinking this snake 
has been up there for a while as the kid says he has heard something up 
there at night.  I also do not see any signs of mice up there either.  
Being out in the country we get mice on occasion and I put poison bars 
up there which knocks them down.  The bars have not been touched so that 
tells me there are little to no mice up there currently.  I suspect this 
might be a non poisonous snake that eats mice, could be the same as the 
one I found in the shop last year.  Should I leave it up there so it can 
eat mice, should I get rid of it?  How do I go about that.  Do I need to 
call somebody?  Doing battle with a snake in the shop is one thing where 
I can move quick.  Crawling around in the attic where I can't move 
around very fast is a whole different deal.



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Re: [MBZ] I really can't understand how people in a certain fakebook MB group can be such morons

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I have friend who pours it into his oil tank for the furnace

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, May 31, 2019, 9:08 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I pour mine into my tank but I heard it causes cancer so I probably
> shouldn’t do it
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On May 31, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Bliss is being so stupid that you have no idea how much you don't know.
>  Moron: someone so dumb they have no idea how really DUMB they are, but are
> ready to tell everyone else how to do everything.
> >
> > AVG fakebuch user=moron
> >
> > Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 6:48 PM:
> >> The discussion has come up again and it is advised to dispose of your
> used motor oil by adding it to the tank as a fuel additive. Just filter it
> and it is good to go.  Unbelievable.
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Re: [MBZ] I really can't understand how people in a certain fakebook MB group can be such morons

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I pour mine into my tank but I heard it causes cancer so I probably shouldn’t 
do it 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bliss is being so stupid that you have no idea how much you don't know.   
> Moron: someone so dumb they have no idea how really DUMB they are, but are 
> ready to tell everyone else how to do everything.
> 
> AVG fakebuch user=moron
> 
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 6:48 PM:
>> The discussion has come up again and it is advised to dispose of your used 
>> motor oil by adding it to the tank as a fuel additive. Just filter it and it 
>> is good to go.  Unbelievable.
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[MBZ] trust fund?

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

This video is bizarre information about birth certificates and legal
trust funds established by someone somehow.  Can this really be?
Someone said that these trusts are billions of dollars for each person
- really?  Bizarre!!

Win In Court - Subrogation Update & Express The Trust
youtube.com/watch?v=cMwaABDQGs8
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Re: [MBZ] More ML500 Fun!!!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Ah, that was not so bad - the rubber is still intact! I've seen/bought
worse ...

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 4:20 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Despite warnings about what a pig of a job the motor mounts are on a W163
> with a V8, I took on the job this afternoon. Beating flat rate so far.
>
> Did the passenger side first as a confidence booster, which I commonly do
> on M119s, too. 45 minutes and I had the old mount out.
>
> And now for some visual enjoyment. Think I needed new motor mounts?
>
> http://penoff.com/photo_dump.html#0
>
>

-- 
OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] This 37-Year-Old Diesel Is THE BEST Mercedes Ever Made!

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

enjoy
youtube.com/watch?v=L1b1JF6X55E
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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

+1


> On May 31, 2019, at 8:01 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> to fix up and give it to SWMBO to wreck
> 
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 6:04 PM:
>>> I just bid on and won a 04 e500 for Copart.
>> Why?
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] More ML500 Fun!!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yup, that’s it. And since this is a V8, there are 16 plugs. Try finding 16 
plugs at ANY FLAPS.

Done.Did the right side motor mount in about 60 minutes taking my time. Plugs 
were pretty easy, as there’s a lot of room to work in.

Not looking forward to tomorrow. Much, much tighter space to work in for both.

-D


> On May 31, 2019, at 6:38 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Distributorless, coils come in two packs, one coil pack, two coils and two 
> plugs per cylinder. Coil wires are about 6-8" long IIRC. 
> 
>> On May 31, 2019 at 5:24 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Is it COP or plug wires?
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Re: [MBZ] I really can't understand how people in a certain fakebook MB group can be such morons

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Bliss is being so stupid that you have no idea how much you don't 
know.   Moron: someone so dumb they have no idea how really DUMB they 
are, but are ready to tell everyone else how to do everything.


AVG fakebuch user=moron

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 6:48 PM:
The discussion has come up again and it is advised to dispose of your 
used motor oil by adding it to the tank as a fuel additive. Just 
filter it and it is good to go.  Unbelievable.



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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

to fix up and give it to SWMBO to wreck

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 6:04 PM:

I just bid on and won a 04 e500 for Copart.

Why?

Rick




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[MBZ] I really can't understand how people in a certain fakebook MB group can be such morons

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The discussion has come up again and it is advised to dispose of your 
used motor oil by adding it to the tank as a fuel additive. Just filter 
it and it is good to go.  Unbelievable.



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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Wow.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On May 31, 2019 5:26:24 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Are you becoming okie acres east?
>
>No oil dip stick, you check the level from the cluster. 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 31, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> I got it for $500.  I'm crazy, but it started and ran well, tranny
>moved it.  AC inop (compressor?  charge?).  Driver window not working. 
>Suspension was not pumping up though he said it would, might be some
>fun getting it on the trailer.   He had a big night and had a little
>adventure off-road with it...
>> 
>> Where's the oil dipstick on this thing?  Found the tranny but
>couldn't find the oil dipstick?
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 5/31/19 2:49 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355183638469646/
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On May 31, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail
>mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
 
 I’m going to go by and take a look at this E500 with collapsed
>suspension and driver side buggered up from what looked like a ditch
>excursion. I actually found the guys house and took a quick look at it,
>he wasn’t there when he said he would be. It looks pretty nice other
>than these issues that make it look not so nice. He said $900 but wants
>it gone, it’s basically scrap as it sits though.  Appears to have been
>sitting for awhile, battery apparently dead so I’m bringing one. I’ll
>offer him $300 see what he says. If the suspension is not *too* bad,
>maybe related to the ditch diving, it could be salvageable.
 
 --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> I just bid on and won a 04 e500 for Copart.

Why? 

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] More ML500 Fun!!!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Distributorless, coils come in two packs, one coil pack, two coils and two 
plugs per cylinder. Coil wires are about 6-8" long IIRC. 

> On May 31, 2019 at 5:24 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Is it COP or plug wires?

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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Carfax shows it had a minor collision on that side so I assume that is 
what happened.  The dude countered back at $1500, I went to $575.  I am 
not going up any further.  I believe this is at least the 2nd time this 
car has run thru.


On 5/31/2019 5:20 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Looks a front end wreck was repaired by putting a new fender on it and leaving 
it primer black.
That's what, a $3-4k car undamaged with relatively low miles?
Mitch.


On May 31, 2019 at 2:22 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  
wrote:


I just bid on and won a 04 e500 for Copart. Says it runs and drives but 
suspension is on the ground, rf fender looks like it was painted with a rattle 
can, and will need a new front bumper. Only has 114k miles. Sold on approval at 
$425 so will see what happens

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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Looks a front end wreck was repaired by putting a new fender on it and leaving 
it primer black. 
That's what, a $3-4k car undamaged with relatively low miles?
Mitch. 

> On May 31, 2019 at 2:22 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I just bid on and won a 04 e500 for Copart. Says it runs and drives but 
> suspension is on the ground, rf fender looks like it was painted with a 
> rattle can, and will need a new front bumper. Only has 114k miles. Sold on 
> approval at $425 so will see what happens

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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No different than the transfer case on the MLs. They’re ”sealed for life”. Mine 
has some schmutz on the drain plug that looks like sealant to tell if it’s been 
tampered with.

I’m going to deal with that this weekend - transfer case and both diffs are 
getting oil changes.

-D

> On May 31, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can’t believe the Germans would do something like that
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 5:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you becoming okie acres east?
>> 
>> No oil dip stick, you check the level from the cluster. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got it for $500.  I'm crazy, but it started and ran well, tranny moved 
>>> it.  AC inop (compressor?  charge?).  Driver window not working.  
>>> Suspension was not pumping up though he said it would, might be some fun 
>>> getting it on the trailer.   He had a big night and had a little adventure 
>>> off-road with it...
>>> 
>>> Where's the oil dipstick on this thing?  Found the tranny but couldn't find 
>>> the oil dipstick?
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 5/31/19 2:49 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355183638469646/
 
 --FT
 Sent from iPhone
 
> On May 31, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail 
> mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I’m going to go by and take a look at this E500 with collapsed suspension 
> and driver side buggered up from what looked like a ditch excursion. I 
> actually found the guys house and took a quick look at it, he wasn’t 
> there when he said he would be. It looks pretty nice other than these 
> issues that make it look not so nice. He said $900 but wants it gone, 
> it’s basically scrap as it sits though.  Appears to have been sitting for 
> awhile, battery apparently dead so I’m bringing one. I’ll offer him $300 
> see what he says. If the suspension is not *too* bad, maybe related to 
> the ditch diving, it could be salvageable.
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I can’t believe the Germans would do something like that

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 5:26 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are you becoming okie acres east?
> 
> No oil dip stick, you check the level from the cluster. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I got it for $500.  I'm crazy, but it started and ran well, tranny moved it. 
>>  AC inop (compressor?  charge?).  Driver window not working.  Suspension was 
>> not pumping up though he said it would, might be some fun getting it on the 
>> trailer.   He had a big night and had a little adventure off-road with it...
>> 
>> Where's the oil dipstick on this thing?  Found the tranny but couldn't find 
>> the oil dipstick?
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 5/31/19 2:49 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355183638469646/
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On May 31, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail >>> > wrote:
 
 I’m going to go by and take a look at this E500 with collapsed suspension 
 and driver side buggered up from what looked like a ditch excursion. I 
 actually found the guys house and took a quick look at it, he wasn’t there 
 when he said he would be. It looks pretty nice other than these issues 
 that make it look not so nice. He said $900 but wants it gone, it’s 
 basically scrap as it sits though.  Appears to have been sitting for 
 awhile, battery apparently dead so I’m bringing one. I’ll offer him $300 
 see what he says. If the suspension is not *too* bad, maybe related to the 
 ditch diving, it could be salvageable.
 
 --FT
 Sent from iPhone
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Are you becoming okie acres east?

No oil dip stick, you check the level from the cluster. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I got it for $500.  I'm crazy, but it started and ran well, tranny moved it.  
> AC inop (compressor?  charge?).  Driver window not working.  Suspension was 
> not pumping up though he said it would, might be some fun getting it on the 
> trailer.   He had a big night and had a little adventure off-road with it...
> 
> Where's the oil dipstick on this thing?  Found the tranny but couldn't find 
> the oil dipstick?
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 5/31/19 2:49 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355183638469646/
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m going to go by and take a look at this E500 with collapsed suspension 
>>> and driver side buggered up from what looked like a ditch excursion. I 
>>> actually found the guys house and took a quick look at it, he wasn’t there 
>>> when he said he would be. It looks pretty nice other than these issues that 
>>> make it look not so nice. He said $900 but wants it gone, it’s basically 
>>> scrap as it sits though.  Appears to have been sitting for awhile, battery 
>>> apparently dead so I’m bringing one. I’ll offer him $300 see what he says. 
>>> If the suspension is not *too* bad, maybe related to the ditch diving, it 
>>> could be salvageable.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
> 
> -- 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] More ML500 Fun!!!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Is it COP or plug wires?

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 4:20 PM:

Despite warnings about what a pig of a job the motor mounts are on a W163 with 
a V8, I took on the job this afternoon. Beating flat rate so far.

Did the passenger side first as a confidence booster, which I commonly do on 
M119s, too. 45 minutes and I had the old mount out.

Gotta go over to Ace Hardware and get some new nuts and washers, as I’m not 
going to reuse the old ones as they were really rusty.

I’m going to save the driver’s side for tomorrow. While I’ve got things jacked 
up I’m going to replace the spark plugs on the passenger side as well, then do 
the same on the driver’s side when I do it tomorrow. The plugs in this thing 
were shot, too. What a surprise!

And now for some visual enjoyment. Think I needed new motor mounts?

http://penoff.com/photo_dump.html#0

-D
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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

no matter what, it needs a filter and fluid change.

Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 4:18 PM:

My 05 E320 did' t have dipstick. Found aftermarket  one made in Poland that
had calibrations for several European makes. Computer tells you when to
add. Dipstick is retro.

Dwight Giles Jr.
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[MBZ] More ML500 Fun!!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Despite warnings about what a pig of a job the motor mounts are on a W163 with 
a V8, I took on the job this afternoon. Beating flat rate so far.

Did the passenger side first as a confidence booster, which I commonly do on 
M119s, too. 45 minutes and I had the old mount out.

Gotta go over to Ace Hardware and get some new nuts and washers, as I’m not 
going to reuse the old ones as they were really rusty.

I’m going to save the driver’s side for tomorrow. While I’ve got things jacked 
up I’m going to replace the spark plugs on the passenger side as well, then do 
the same on the driver’s side when I do it tomorrow. The plugs in this thing 
were shot, too. What a surprise!

And now for some visual enjoyment. Think I needed new motor mounts?

http://penoff.com/photo_dump.html#0

-D
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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

My 05 E320 did' t have dipstick. Found aftermarket  one made in Poland that
had calibrations for several European makes. Computer tells you when to
add. Dipstick is retro.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, May 31, 2019, 5:02 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I got it for $500.  I'm crazy, but it started and ran well, tranny moved
> it.  AC inop (compressor?  charge?).  Driver window not working.
> Suspension was not pumping up though he said it would, might be some fun
> getting it on the trailer.   He had a big night and had a little
> adventure off-road with it...
>
> Where's the oil dipstick on this thing?  Found the tranny but couldn't
> find the oil dipstick?
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/31/19 2:49 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355183638469646/
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> > On May 31, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail
> > mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> I’m going to go by and take a look at this E500 with collapsed
> >> suspension and driver side buggered up from what looked like a ditch
> >> excursion. I actually found the guys house and took a quick look at
> >> it, he wasn’t there when he said he would be. It looks pretty nice
> >> other than these issues that make it look not so nice. He said $900
> >> but wants it gone, it’s basically scrap as it sits though.  Appears
> >> to have been sitting for awhile, battery apparently dead so I’m
> >> bringing one. I’ll offer him $300 see what he says. If the suspension
> >> is not *too* bad, maybe related to the ditch diving, it could be
> >> salvageable.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
>
> --
> --FT
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: ***SPAM*** MB SUV Carfax Please?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

The GLK is nixed, I'd still like the carfax on the ML pls.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Greg 
Fiorentino via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 10:18 AM
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Cc: Greg Fiorentino
Subject: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** MB SUV Carfax Please?

Hi:

 

Just received a request from the DIL in Honolulu:

 

She asks:

 

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<< Hi Dad, 

 

I am looking into possibly trading in my car for a SUV. I realized that I would 
prefer an SUV that will be more reliable than my Hyundai as I think I made a 
bad decision "settling" for a cheaper car.  I owe 12k on my Hyundai and do not 
want to keep paying for it if I don't foresee myself keeping it long term. I'm 
thinking an older used Mercedes. These are the 2 that I am considering - Which 
would you go for? 

 

2010 Mercedes-Benz GLK 350 4Matic Sport Utility 4D

74,860 Miles 

VIN= WDCGG8HB7AF458626

V6, 3.5 Liter 

16MPG CITY, 21 HWY

$13,495

 

OR

 

2011 Mercedes-Benz ML 350 4Matic Sport Utility 4D

92,259 Miles 

VIN= 4JGBB8GB5BA706799

V6, 3.5 Liter

$12,995 

 

I want a 4WD and I want a backup camera. The 2011 has both - do you think it 
would be expensive to add a backup camera to a vehicle? 

 

I'm test driving both tomorrow after some appointments. Let me know your 
thoughts.

 

Thank you >>

 

_

 

She does not do DIY repair, and my son may be at sea (USCG cutter crew ) so a 
recommendation for a good indie would help. Any thoughts on these models?

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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Nah, you just need a drill and a long piece of wire. Punch a hole 
somewhere that leads to the oil pan and you are good to go.




On 31/05/2019 4:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Doesn't have one - comes with a lifetime sealed oil supply.  If it leaks
out you trade in the vehicle for a new E500, less dealer charges.

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:02 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I got it for $500.  I'm crazy, but it started and ran well, tranny moved
it.  AC inop (compressor?  charge?).  Driver window not working.
Suspension was not pumping up though he said it would, might be some fun
getting it on the trailer.   He had a big night and had a little
adventure off-road with it...

Where's the oil dipstick on this thing?  Found the tranny but couldn't
find the oil dipstick?

--FT




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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Doesn't have one - comes with a lifetime sealed oil supply.  If it leaks
out you trade in the vehicle for a new E500, less dealer charges.

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:02 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I got it for $500.  I'm crazy, but it started and ran well, tranny moved
> it.  AC inop (compressor?  charge?).  Driver window not working.
> Suspension was not pumping up though he said it would, might be some fun
> getting it on the trailer.   He had a big night and had a little
> adventure off-road with it...
>
> Where's the oil dipstick on this thing?  Found the tranny but couldn't
> find the oil dipstick?
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/31/19 2:49 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355183638469646/
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> > On May 31, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail
> > mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> I’m going to go by and take a look at this E500 with collapsed
> >> suspension and driver side buggered up from what looked like a ditch
> >> excursion. I actually found the guys house and took a quick look at
> >> it, he wasn’t there when he said he would be. It looks pretty nice
> >> other than these issues that make it look not so nice. He said $900
> >> but wants it gone, it’s basically scrap as it sits though.  Appears
> >> to have been sitting for awhile, battery apparently dead so I’m
> >> bringing one. I’ll offer him $300 see what he says. If the suspension
> >> is not *too* bad, maybe related to the ditch diving, it could be
> >> salvageable.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
>
> --
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I got it for $500.  I'm crazy, but it started and ran well, tranny moved 
it.  AC inop (compressor?  charge?).  Driver window not working.  
Suspension was not pumping up though he said it would, might be some fun 
getting it on the trailer.   He had a big night and had a little 
adventure off-road with it...


Where's the oil dipstick on this thing?  Found the tranny but couldn't 
find the oil dipstick?


--FT

On 5/31/19 2:49 PM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355183638469646/

--FT
Sent from iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail 
mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I’m going to go by and take a look at this E500 with collapsed 
suspension and driver side buggered up from what looked like a ditch 
excursion. I actually found the guys house and took a quick look at 
it, he wasn’t there when he said he would be. It looks pretty nice 
other than these issues that make it look not so nice. He said $900 
but wants it gone, it’s basically scrap as it sits though.  Appears 
to have been sitting for awhile, battery apparently dead so I’m 
bringing one. I’ll offer him $300 see what he says. If the suspension 
is not *too* bad, maybe related to the ditch diving, it could be 
salvageable.


--FT
Sent from iPhone


--
--FT

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Re: [MBZ] OT Frogbarge seats (observations on flying)

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Odds, are that they will change the name too.



On 31/05/2019 12:23 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Boeing has a full court effort to fix the Max and do it quickly and make it
bullet proof. They have hundreds of orders for the plane, that have ALL
been put on hold or canceled, so they have to fix it to eat in the future.
Every competition manufacturer is jumping like a dog on fresh meat on their
customers with their products, so the heat is on... Plus, cause of death
lawsuits by the mile are already filed and in court processes.

Boeing will fix it, but it's likely to little, to late. The Max was a
"throw it together quick to beat the competition" set of changes to a
proven air frame, In actual fact, it shouldn't have happened, it should
have been a new design, instead of a "refit".. instead, it was a "rush
refit" to capture market share. Thus, a system of compromises by
engineering, sales, and marketing departments, lead by bad decisions by
management, while chasing the bottom line...

There are corporate lessons to be learned in this, and as my esteemed
Grandmother said "The price of education is never cheap, no matter where
you get it."




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Re: [MBZ] W163/ML Mania

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I am rethinking my need for a Bluetec ML.

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 2:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Agreed. That might still happen, though. They’re continuing to drop the
> price and it’s not selling…
>
> -D
>
> > On May 31, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Haha!   You shoulda bought that 240D.   Long after all other life is
> dead on this planet, cockaroaches and 240Ds will still be running.
> >
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 1:10 PM:
> >> Yup. That resets the BAS for a while, then it acts out again.
> >>
> >> Understand that the DAS shows it as being bad, however, if I look at
> live data I can see it working and it’s reflecting the proper values. This
> is why I tend to believe there is an issue with an intermittent signal that
> is causing codes to be thrown.
> >>
> >> It could also be crudded up with some spider webs or stuff like that.
> >>
> >> Unlike some models that use the “clock spring” arrangement, which this
> car also has for connections to the air bag and horn circuit, the steering
> angle sensor in this car is mounted on the steering shaft under the dash
> just ahead of a universal joint in the steering shaft. It consists of a
> ring of 8 LEDs and phototransistors with a rotor that breaks the beam
> between them to indicated rotation of the steering and the direction. It’s
> not covered, so stuff could potentially get inside of it.
> >>
> >> There is also a connector located on it as well, which could be
> corroded.
> >>
> >> The windshield washer leakage issue affects the ABS unit’s connector.
> Fortunately I don’t have that problem, however, in anticipation of having
> to replace brushes on the ABS unit motor, I did order a set this week. This
> is another common problem for these models, so I figured I woudl get a set
> as insurance.
> >>
> >> And my windshield washer reservoir completely destructed. The plastic
> on it was so brittle just leaning on it caused it to shatter in numerous
> places. I have a replacement, but it’s a major undertaking to install.
> Headlight comes out (not a big deal) but the radiator support has to come
> out as well. Ugh.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 31, 2019, at 1:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You did the steering back and forth lock to lock a couple times
> right?  Apparently this resets a bunch of problems on the 95 SL, and I
> think I had to do this on the 99 ML when I was fooling with it
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>> Sent from iPhone
> >>>
>  On May 31, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  New tires all around , at least the rears are new and the fronts have
> no wear to speak of. All four are the same brand/size tires.
> 
>  Than BAS issue is clearly with the steering angle sensor, as the
> codes that are thrown all point to it. I’ve just got to determine if it’s
> cruddy or needs replacement.
> 
>  I saw someone on BW said these cars had to have AGM batteries, but I
> don’t see that being an issue. They might have come with AGM batteries, but
> using a standard flooded lead acid battery certainly can’t affect its
> ability to operate properly.
> 
>  Thanks!
> 
>  -D
> 
> > On May 31, 2019, at 12:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Rolling diameter is the same on all the tires, right?
> > Or is the worn tire bad enough to make a difference in revolutions
> per mile?
> > My 163 throws an ABS (not BAS) light when a tire gets low.
> > Which reminds me, have to find out why the one tire is always a few
> pounds low if I don't top it off for a couple of months.
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 63 Mercedes 220 s

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

True.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, May 31, 2019, 2:47 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The green is fine with me (of course), but I wouldn't be able to stand that
> red engine block!
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 9:11 AM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I just couldn't take the color.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Fri, May 31, 2019, 2:12 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Gopher it, it'll earn a special prize at the Q.
> > >
> > > Curt
> > >
> > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> > >
> > >   On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 9:07 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes<
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Not
> > >
> > > -- Forwarded message -
> > > From: 
> > > Date: Thu, May 30, 2019 at 7:42 PM
> > > Subject: 63 Mercedes 220 s
> > > To: 
> > >
> > >
> > > fred4s...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
> > > --
> > > 63 Mercedes 220 s
> > >
> > > https://nh.craigslist.org/pts/6900234941.html
> > > --
> > >
> > > *Please go to the preferences page
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://accounts.craigslist.org/eafprefs/U2FsdGVkX18xODI1ODE4MlLX078-9pEa2J2J0o8f-bJWNRKela2at3HViCRFeeCSVF3DvSzZl1O7XSeycXmhzw
> > > >
> > > if you don't want to receive email-a-friend messages in the future.*
> > >
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> > > Lynn MA
> > > Diesel preferred
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Re: [MBZ] Bees

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If only we could train mosquitoes to be so useful...

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 1:54 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Tue, 21 May 2019 19:43:53 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > A bee keeper in a small town near the UF Med School came in to the
> > clinic and was diagnoses with lymphocytic leukemia. Treatment was
> > ineffective and he was sent home to die. Probably because of his
> > declining health, he fell or knocked over a bee hive and got bitten so
> > many times the ambulance drivers thought he would die before they could
> > got him to the med school. He survived the bee stings and tests showed
> > that his leukemia had disappeared.
> >
> > Someone wrote it up, it was published, and since then bee venom has
> > been used to treat a number of diseases including cancers:
> > https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22109081 Gerry
>
>
> I was looking at web pages on copperhead snakes and saw their venom is
> also used for treating human diseases.
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Re: [MBZ] W163/ML Mania

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed. That might still happen, though. They’re continuing to drop the price 
and it’s not selling…

-D

> On May 31, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Haha!   You shoulda bought that 240D.   Long after all other life is dead on 
> this planet, cockaroaches and 240Ds will still be running.
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 1:10 PM:
>> Yup. That resets the BAS for a while, then it acts out again.
>> 
>> Understand that the DAS shows it as being bad, however, if I look at live 
>> data I can see it working and it’s reflecting the proper values. This is why 
>> I tend to believe there is an issue with an intermittent signal that is 
>> causing codes to be thrown.
>> 
>> It could also be crudded up with some spider webs or stuff like that.
>> 
>> Unlike some models that use the “clock spring” arrangement, which this car 
>> also has for connections to the air bag and horn circuit, the steering angle 
>> sensor in this car is mounted on the steering shaft under the dash just 
>> ahead of a universal joint in the steering shaft. It consists of a ring of 8 
>> LEDs and phototransistors with a rotor that breaks the beam between them to 
>> indicated rotation of the steering and the direction. It’s not covered, so 
>> stuff could potentially get inside of it.
>> 
>> There is also a connector located on it as well, which could be corroded.
>> 
>> The windshield washer leakage issue affects the ABS unit’s connector. 
>> Fortunately I don’t have that problem, however, in anticipation of having to 
>> replace brushes on the ABS unit motor, I did order a set this week. This is 
>> another common problem for these models, so I figured I woudl get a set as 
>> insurance.
>> 
>> And my windshield washer reservoir completely destructed. The plastic on it 
>> was so brittle just leaning on it caused it to shatter in numerous places. I 
>> have a replacement, but it’s a major undertaking to install. Headlight comes 
>> out (not a big deal) but the radiator support has to come out as well. Ugh.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 1:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You did the steering back and forth lock to lock a couple times right?  
>>> Apparently this resets a bunch of problems on the 95 SL, and I think I had 
>>> to do this on the 99 ML when I was fooling with it
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On May 31, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 New tires all around , at least the rears are new and the fronts have no 
 wear to speak of. All four are the same brand/size tires.
 
 Than BAS issue is clearly with the steering angle sensor, as the codes 
 that are thrown all point to it. I’ve just got to determine if it’s cruddy 
 or needs replacement.
 
 I saw someone on BW said these cars had to have AGM batteries, but I don’t 
 see that being an issue. They might have come with AGM batteries, but 
 using a standard flooded lead acid battery certainly can’t affect its 
 ability to operate properly.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -D
 
> On May 31, 2019, at 12:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rolling diameter is the same on all the tires, right?
> Or is the worn tire bad enough to make a difference in revolutions per 
> mile?
> My 163 throws an ABS (not BAS) light when a tire gets low.
> Which reminds me, have to find out why the one tire is always a few 
> pounds low if I don't top it off for a couple of months.
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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/355183638469646/

--FT
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> On May 31, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m going to go by and take a look at this E500 with collapsed suspension and 
> driver side buggered up from what looked like a ditch excursion. I actually 
> found the guys house and took a quick look at it, he wasn’t there when he 
> said he would be. It looks pretty nice other than these issues that make it 
> look not so nice. He said $900 but wants it gone, it’s basically scrap as it 
> sits though.  Appears to have been sitting for awhile, battery apparently 
> dead so I’m bringing one. I’ll offer him $300 see what he says. If the 
> suspension is not *too* bad, maybe related to the ditch diving, it could be 
> salvageable. 
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 63 Mercedes 220 s

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

The green is fine with me (of course), but I wouldn't be able to stand that
red engine block!

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 9:11 AM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I just couldn't take the color.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2019, 2:12 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Gopher it, it'll earn a special prize at the Q.
> >
> > Curt
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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> >   On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 9:07 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes<
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Not
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: 
> > Date: Thu, May 30, 2019 at 7:42 PM
> > Subject: 63 Mercedes 220 s
> > To: 
> >
> >
> > fred4s...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
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> > <
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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Seller countered at $2200, I came back at $475, seller came back with $2150, I 
then went to $500 which is my stopping point. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 1:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> I see the reserve is set at $2250. I think not.
> 
> https://www.copart.com/lot/36216339
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>> 
>> I just bid on and won a 04 e500 for Copart. Says it runs and drives but 
>> suspension is on the ground, rf fender looks like it was painted with a 
>> rattle can, and will need a new front bumper. Only has 114k miles. Sold on 
>> approval at $425 so will see what happens 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m going to go by and take a look at this E500 with collapsed suspension 
>>> and driver side buggered up from what looked like a ditch excursion. I 
>>> actually found the guys house and took a quick look at it, he wasn’t there 
>>> when he said he would be. It looks pretty nice other than these issues that 
>>> make it look not so nice. He said $900 but wants it gone, it’s basically 
>>> scrap as it sits though.  Appears to have been sitting for awhile, battery 
>>> apparently dead so I’m bringing one. I’ll offer him $300 see what he says. 
>>> If the suspension is not *too* bad, maybe related to the ditch diving, it 
>>> could be salvageable. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

talk to Airlift in MI about a suspension kit.   That is standard fro the 
"baggers"  Air lift is great and lifetime guaranteed.   Way cheaper than 
parts from MB.


Same applies for lincolns and crown vics with air suspension.

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 1:22 PM:

I just bid on and won a 04 e500 for Copart. Says it runs and drives but 
suspension is on the ground, rf fender looks like it was painted with a rattle 
can, and will need a new front bumper. Only has 114k miles. Sold on approval at 
$425 so will see what happens





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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I see the reserve is set at $2250. I think not.

https://www.copart.com/lot/36216339

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> I just bid on and won a 04 e500 for Copart. Says it runs and drives but 
> suspension is on the ground, rf fender looks like it was painted with a 
> rattle can, and will need a new front bumper. Only has 114k miles. Sold on 
> approval at $425 so will see what happens 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m going to go by and take a look at this E500 with collapsed suspension 
>> and driver side buggered up from what looked like a ditch excursion. I 
>> actually found the guys house and took a quick look at it, he wasn’t there 
>> when he said he would be. It looks pretty nice other than these issues that 
>> make it look not so nice. He said $900 but wants it gone, it’s basically 
>> scrap as it sits though.  Appears to have been sitting for awhile, battery 
>> apparently dead so I’m bringing one. I’ll offer him $300 see what he says. 
>> If the suspension is not *too* bad, maybe related to the ditch diving, it 
>> could be salvageable. 
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] W163/ML Mania

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Haha!   You shoulda bought that 240D.   Long after all other life is 
dead on this planet, cockaroaches and 240Ds will still be running.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 1:10 PM:

Yup. That resets the BAS for a while, then it acts out again.

Understand that the DAS shows it as being bad, however, if I look at live data 
I can see it working and it’s reflecting the proper values. This is why I tend 
to believe there is an issue with an intermittent signal that is causing codes 
to be thrown.

It could also be crudded up with some spider webs or stuff like that.

Unlike some models that use the “clock spring” arrangement, which this car also 
has for connections to the air bag and horn circuit, the steering angle sensor 
in this car is mounted on the steering shaft under the dash just ahead of a 
universal joint in the steering shaft. It consists of a ring of 8 LEDs and 
phototransistors with a rotor that breaks the beam between them to indicated 
rotation of the steering and the direction. It’s not covered, so stuff could 
potentially get inside of it.

There is also a connector located on it as well, which could be corroded.

The windshield washer leakage issue affects the ABS unit’s connector. 
Fortunately I don’t have that problem, however, in anticipation of having to 
replace brushes on the ABS unit motor, I did order a set this week. This is 
another common problem for these models, so I figured I woudl get a set as 
insurance.

And my windshield washer reservoir completely destructed. The plastic on it was 
so brittle just leaning on it caused it to shatter in numerous places. I have a 
replacement, but it’s a major undertaking to install. Headlight comes out (not 
a big deal) but the radiator support has to come out as well. Ugh.

-D



   

On May 31, 2019, at 1:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

You did the steering back and forth lock to lock a couple times right?  
Apparently this resets a bunch of problems on the 95 SL, and I think I had to 
do this on the 99 ML when I was fooling with it

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On May 31, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

New tires all around , at least the rears are new and the fronts have no wear 
to speak of. All four are the same brand/size tires.

Than BAS issue is clearly with the steering angle sensor, as the codes that are 
thrown all point to it. I’ve just got to determine if it’s cruddy or needs 
replacement.

I saw someone on BW said these cars had to have AGM batteries, but I don’t see 
that being an issue. They might have come with AGM batteries, but using a 
standard flooded lead acid battery certainly can’t affect its ability to 
operate properly.

Thanks!

-D


On May 31, 2019, at 12:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:

Rolling diameter is the same on all the tires, right?
Or is the worn tire bad enough to make a difference in revolutions per mile?
My 163 throws an ABS (not BAS) light when a tire gets low.
Which reminds me, have to find out why the one tire is always a few pounds low 
if I don't top it off for a couple of months.

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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I just bid on and won a 04 e500 for Copart. Says it runs and drives but 
suspension is on the ground, rf fender looks like it was painted with a rattle 
can, and will need a new front bumper. Only has 114k miles. Sold on approval at 
$425 so will see what happens 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m going to go by and take a look at this E500 with collapsed suspension and 
> driver side buggered up from what looked like a ditch excursion. I actually 
> found the guys house and took a quick look at it, he wasn’t there when he 
> said he would be. It looks pretty nice other than these issues that make it 
> look not so nice. He said $900 but wants it gone, it’s basically scrap as it 
> sits though.  Appears to have been sitting for awhile, battery apparently 
> dead so I’m bringing one. I’ll offer him $300 see what he says. If the 
> suspension is not *too* bad, maybe related to the ditch diving, it could be 
> salvageable. 
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] W163/ML Mania

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yup. That resets the BAS for a while, then it acts out again.

Understand that the DAS shows it as being bad, however, if I look at live data 
I can see it working and it’s reflecting the proper values. This is why I tend 
to believe there is an issue with an intermittent signal that is causing codes 
to be thrown.

It could also be crudded up with some spider webs or stuff like that.

Unlike some models that use the “clock spring” arrangement, which this car also 
has for connections to the air bag and horn circuit, the steering angle sensor 
in this car is mounted on the steering shaft under the dash just ahead of a 
universal joint in the steering shaft. It consists of a ring of 8 LEDs and 
phototransistors with a rotor that breaks the beam between them to indicated 
rotation of the steering and the direction. It’s not covered, so stuff could 
potentially get inside of it.

There is also a connector located on it as well, which could be corroded.

The windshield washer leakage issue affects the ABS unit’s connector. 
Fortunately I don’t have that problem, however, in anticipation of having to 
replace brushes on the ABS unit motor, I did order a set this week. This is 
another common problem for these models, so I figured I woudl get a set as 
insurance.

And my windshield washer reservoir completely destructed. The plastic on it was 
so brittle just leaning on it caused it to shatter in numerous places. I have a 
replacement, but it’s a major undertaking to install. Headlight comes out (not 
a big deal) but the radiator support has to come out as well. Ugh.

-D



  
> On May 31, 2019, at 1:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You did the steering back and forth lock to lock a couple times right?  
> Apparently this resets a bunch of problems on the 95 SL, and I think I had to 
> do this on the 99 ML when I was fooling with it
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> New tires all around , at least the rears are new and the fronts have no 
>> wear to speak of. All four are the same brand/size tires.
>> 
>> Than BAS issue is clearly with the steering angle sensor, as the codes that 
>> are thrown all point to it. I’ve just got to determine if it’s cruddy or 
>> needs replacement.
>> 
>> I saw someone on BW said these cars had to have AGM batteries, but I don’t 
>> see that being an issue. They might have come with AGM batteries, but using 
>> a standard flooded lead acid battery certainly can’t affect its ability to 
>> operate properly.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Rolling diameter is the same on all the tires, right?
>>> Or is the worn tire bad enough to make a difference in revolutions per mile?
>>> My 163 throws an ABS (not BAS) light when a tire gets low. 
>>> Which reminds me, have to find out why the one tire is always a few pounds 
>>> low if I don't top it off for a couple of months.
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Re: [MBZ] Bees

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 21 May 2019 19:43:53 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> A bee keeper in a small town near the UF Med School came in to the
> clinic and was diagnoses with lymphocytic leukemia. Treatment was
> ineffective and he was sent home to die. Probably because of his
> declining health, he fell or knocked over a bee hive and got bitten so
> many times the ambulance drivers thought he would die before they could
> got him to the med school. He survived the bee stings and tests showed
> that his leukemia had disappeared.
> 
> Someone wrote it up, it was published, and since then bee venom has
> been used to treat a number of diseases including cancers:
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22109081 Gerry


I was looking at web pages on copperhead snakes and saw their venom is
also used for treating human diseases.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** MB SUV Carfax Please?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Paying someone to fix an MB on Oahu is not a cheap proposition.  For 
example, a new a/c clutch in 1991 cost $1200.    Probably 2 or 3K now.


The standard family car on Oahu is a corolla (used to be tercel) or a 
sentra.  Maybe they have the income to sink into an ML.  I have no idea 
where the H they would "need" 4wd on Oahu.


There used to be a good A/C shop just east of the Bishop St downtown area, and 
just mauka from Nimitz.  It was close to Lex Brodies tire, but I think Lex 
Brodies is gone, and so may be the A/c shop.



Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 12:18 PM:

Hi:

  


Just received a request from the DIL in Honolulu:

  


She asks:

  


___

  


<< Hi Dad,

  


I am looking into possibly trading in my car for a SUV. I realized that I would prefer an 
SUV that will be more reliable than my Hyundai as I think I made a bad decision 
"settling" for a cheaper car.  I owe 12k on my Hyundai and do not want to keep 
paying for it if I don't foresee myself keeping it long term. I'm thinking an older used 
Mercedes. These are the 2 that I am considering - Which would you go for?

  


2010 Mercedes-Benz GLK 350 4Matic Sport Utility 4D

74,860 Miles

VIN= WDCGG8HB7AF458626

V6, 3.5 Liter

16MPG CITY, 21 HWY

$13,495

  


OR

  


2011 Mercedes-Benz ML 350 4Matic Sport Utility 4D

92,259 Miles

VIN= 4JGBB8GB5BA706799

V6, 3.5 Liter

$12,995

  


I want a 4WD and I want a backup camera. The 2011 has both - do you think it 
would be expensive to add a backup camera to a vehicle?

  


I'm test driving both tomorrow after some appointments. Let me know your 
thoughts.

  


Thank you >>

  


_

  


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Re: [MBZ] 03 E500

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That should be a wicked fast sedan.  Not like your v12 SL, but pretty
respectable.

From the same time frame, the C500 has faster accel than the E-class AMG,
so I'd expect this to be a little slower than the AMG version, but not too
much.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 1:36 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I’m going to go by and take a look at this E500 with collapsed suspension
> and driver side buggered up from what looked like a ditch excursion. I
> actually found the guys house and took a quick look at it, he wasn’t there
> when he said he would be. It looks pretty nice other than these issues that
> make it look not so nice. He said $900 but wants it gone, it’s basically
> scrap as it sits though.  Appears to have been sitting for awhile, battery
> apparently dead so I’m bringing one. I’ll offer him $300 see what he says.
> If the suspension is not *too* bad, maybe related to the ditch diving, it
> could be salvageable.
>
> --FT
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[MBZ] 03 E500

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’m going to go by and take a look at this E500 with collapsed suspension and 
driver side buggered up from what looked like a ditch excursion. I actually 
found the guys house and took a quick look at it, he wasn’t there when he said 
he would be. It looks pretty nice other than these issues that make it look not 
so nice. He said $900 but wants it gone, it’s basically scrap as it sits 
though.  Appears to have been sitting for awhile, battery apparently dead so 
I’m bringing one. I’ll offer him $300 see what he says. If the suspension is 
not *too* bad, maybe related to the ditch diving, it could be salvageable. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] W163/ML Mania

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

You did the steering back and forth lock to lock a couple times right?  
Apparently this resets a bunch of problems on the 95 SL, and I think I had to 
do this on the 99 ML when I was fooling with it

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> New tires all around , at least the rears are new and the fronts have no wear 
> to speak of. All four are the same brand/size tires.
> 
> Than BAS issue is clearly with the steering angle sensor, as the codes that 
> are thrown all point to it. I’ve just got to determine if it’s cruddy or 
> needs replacement.
> 
> I saw someone on BW said these cars had to have AGM batteries, but I don’t 
> see that being an issue. They might have come with AGM batteries, but using a 
> standard flooded lead acid battery certainly can’t affect its ability to 
> operate properly.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Rolling diameter is the same on all the tires, right?
>> Or is the worn tire bad enough to make a difference in revolutions per mile?
>> My 163 throws an ABS (not BAS) light when a tire gets low. 
>> Which reminds me, have to find out why the one tire is always a few pounds 
>> low if I don't top it off for a couple of months.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Frogbarge seats (observations on flying)

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Boeing has a full court effort to fix the Max and do it quickly and make it
bullet proof. They have hundreds of orders for the plane, that have ALL
been put on hold or canceled, so they have to fix it to eat in the future.
Every competition manufacturer is jumping like a dog on fresh meat on their
customers with their products, so the heat is on... Plus, cause of death
lawsuits by the mile are already filed and in court processes.

Boeing will fix it, but it's likely to little, to late. The Max was a
"throw it together quick to beat the competition" set of changes to a
proven air frame, In actual fact, it shouldn't have happened, it should
have been a new design, instead of a "refit".. instead, it was a "rush
refit" to capture market share. Thus, a system of compromises by
engineering, sales, and marketing departments, lead by bad decisions by
management, while chasing the bottom line...

There are corporate lessons to be learned in this, and as my esteemed
Grandmother said "The price of education is never cheap, no matter where
you get it."

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:00 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> By the time they fly the MAX again, it will likely be the safest plane
> in the air.
>
>
> On 31/05/2019 11:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Yeah, that’s pretty awesome. A lot tougher doing it from the private
> side as opposed to being former military.
> >
> > Just tell him to stay away from the 737 MAX.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On May 31, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Grant, Curley, Gerry wrote:
> >>> Congrats to your son ! ...
> >> Well... he works for the federal aviation oversight agency and they
> >> provided the time, he did the work.  Yes, it was a job to accomplish
> >> and it was the job requirement.
> >> Thanks, everyone.
> >> tin
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: ***SPAM*** MB SUV Carfax Please?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

What are places to look for rust on these?

Greg

In the PNW, where cars mold, not rust.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Greg 
Fiorentino via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 10:18 AM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Cc: Greg Fiorentino
Subject: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** MB SUV Carfax Please?

Hi:

 

Just received a request from the DIL in Honolulu:

 

She asks:

 

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<< Hi Dad, 

 

I am looking into possibly trading in my car for a SUV. I realized that I would 
prefer an SUV that will be more reliable than my Hyundai as I think I made a 
bad decision "settling" for a cheaper car.  I owe 12k on my Hyundai and do not 
want to keep paying for it if I don't foresee myself keeping it long term. I'm 
thinking an older used Mercedes. These are the 2 that I am considering - Which 
would you go for? 

 

2010 Mercedes-Benz GLK 350 4Matic Sport Utility 4D

74,860 Miles 

VIN= WDCGG8HB7AF458626

V6, 3.5 Liter 

16MPG CITY, 21 HWY

$13,495

 

OR

 

2011 Mercedes-Benz ML 350 4Matic Sport Utility 4D

92,259 Miles 

VIN= 4JGBB8GB5BA706799

V6, 3.5 Liter

$12,995 

 

I want a 4WD and I want a backup camera. The 2011 has both - do you think it 
would be expensive to add a backup camera to a vehicle? 

 

I'm test driving both tomorrow after some appointments. Let me know your 
thoughts.

 

Thank you >>

 

_

 

She does not do DIY repair, and my son may be at sea (USCG cutter crew ) so a 
recommendation for a good indie would help. Any thoughts on these models?

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** MB SUV Carfax Please?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Hi:

 

Just received a request from the DIL in Honolulu:

 

She asks:

 

___

 

<< Hi Dad, 

 

I am looking into possibly trading in my car for a SUV. I realized that I would 
prefer an SUV that will be more reliable than my Hyundai as I think I made a 
bad decision "settling" for a cheaper car.  I owe 12k on my Hyundai and do not 
want to keep paying for it if I don't foresee myself keeping it long term. I'm 
thinking an older used Mercedes. These are the 2 that I am considering - Which 
would you go for? 

 

2010 Mercedes-Benz GLK 350 4Matic Sport Utility 4D

74,860 Miles 

VIN= WDCGG8HB7AF458626

V6, 3.5 Liter 

16MPG CITY, 21 HWY

$13,495

 

OR

 

2011 Mercedes-Benz ML 350 4Matic Sport Utility 4D

92,259 Miles 

VIN= 4JGBB8GB5BA706799

V6, 3.5 Liter

$12,995 

 

I want a 4WD and I want a backup camera. The 2011 has both - do you think it 
would be expensive to add a backup camera to a vehicle? 

 

I'm test driving both tomorrow after some appointments. Let me know your 
thoughts.

 

Thank you >>

 

_

 

She does not do DIY repair, and my son may be at sea (USCG cutter crew ) so a 
recommendation for a good indie would help. Any thoughts on these models?

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Re: [MBZ] OT Frogbarge seats (observations on flying)

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Ah, so he works for the FAA - "We're not happy until you're not happy!" -
those folks. Still an admirable achievement, congrats to him.

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:10 AM Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Grant, Curley, Gerry wrote:
> > Congrats to your son ! ...
>
> Well... he works for the federal aviation oversight agency and they
> provided the time, he did the work.  Yes, it was a job to accomplish
> and it was the job requirement.
> Thanks, everyone.
> tin
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OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] W163/ML Mania

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Never had a 240D.

The previous owner became disabled and the car just got parked because they 
couldn’t drive.

Hard telling if it had issues then. Most of the things I’ve encountered are 
related to lack of use.

-D

> On May 31, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well, you now know why the previous owner sold it.
> Maybe you should too. Get yourself another 240D.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 31/05/2019 11:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Man, this ML500 is killing me…
>> 
>> I’ve been fighting with an ELT/BAS/ABS and brake alert lights. The multiple 
>> light issue is a well known one, but can be any number of causes. I think I 
>> got it sorted. Now Im down to just a BAS light and a code for a bad steering 
>> angle sensor. I’ve got to do some checking, but I don’t think it’s bad, I 
>> just think there may be some corrosion issued in the connector, as this car 
>> sat for a good year before I got it.
>> 
>> Anyway, I’ve been driving it to work to get things figured out. Wednesday, 
>> no problem, just the BAS light on occasion. This is a Good Thing.
>> 
>> Thursday I drive in, no issues but the BAS light again, just as I pull into 
>> my space. Meh. Go out at lunch to make a dealer parts run. Dead.
>> 
>> Grrr.
>> 
>> I’m thinking I left the lights in the “Auto” position, which is not working 
>> properly, as it turns the lights on as soon as the key goes in and doesn’t 
>> turn them off in daylight. Hmm. We have a city wide car assistance service 
>> that will come and change tires, put gas in your car, give you a jump, etc. 
>> for free. I call them and they come into the garage.
>> 
>> No joy with their jumper pack. Push the car out of the space and they put 
>> the jumper cables on it - success! Not ready to take any chances, I 
>> immediately drive it home.
>> 
>> Battery appears to be charged but I put it on my charger anyway to be sure. 
>> While that’s going on I hook up the DAS to see what’s up, as well as get a 
>> look at the “actual values” for the rain sensor, which also works with the 
>> headlights for the automatic functions.
>> 
>> All of the sudden, my DAS system is flashing red all over the place. Whaaa??
>> 
>> Battery voltage is down to 10 volts??? The key is on for the diagnostics, 
>> but nothing is running like AC or other large consumers.
>> 
>> I get my 10 amp charger out and put it on the car. Voltage comes up. Hmm. I 
>> finish my DAS stuff.
>> 
>> Go to move the car. Battery dead.
>> 
>> So I yank the battery out and take it down to my FLAPS guy and he tests it. 
>> Bad. I give him BS about the machine saying that no matter what, as it 
>> doesn’t explain the reason why


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Re: [MBZ] okie acres flooding update

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

go dig up some sand on your island and use that in place of floor dry.

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/31/19 11:45 AM:

I have got a few things done mainly the suburban and trailer ready to go on a 
towing trip. Problem is I need to order part to proceed with some things. The 
other issue is after working on suburban with the big tranny and diesel fuel 
spill all over the floor I need to clean it up before I can work in there. I 
need to get a big bag of cat litter to soak it up.





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Re: [MBZ] W163/ML Mania

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

My ML research pointed to corrosion caused by leakage from the WW fluid tank. 
That location might be the first place to look.

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 9:32 AM
To: Mercedes List
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: [MBZ] W163/ML Mania

Man, this ML500 is killing me…

I’ve been fighting with an ELT/BAS/ABS and brake alert lights. The multiple 
light issue is a well known one, but can be any number of causes. I think I got 
it sorted. Now Im down to just a BAS light and a code for a bad steering angle 
sensor. I’ve got to do some checking, but I don’t think it’s bad, I just think 
there may be some corrosion issued in the connector, as this car sat for a good 
year before I got it.

Anyway, I’ve been driving it to work to get things figured out. Wednesday, no 
problem, just the BAS light on occasion. This is a Good Thing.

Thursday I drive in, no issues but the BAS light again, just as I pull into my 
space. Meh. Go out at lunch to make a dealer parts run. Dead.

Grrr.

I’m thinking I left the lights in the “Auto” position, which is not working 
properly, as it turns the lights on as soon as the key goes in and doesn’t turn 
them off in daylight. Hmm. We have a city wide car assistance service that will 
come and change tires, put gas in your car, give you a jump, etc. for free. I 
call them and they come into the garage.

No joy with their jumper pack. Push the car out of the space and they put the 
jumper cables on it - success! Not ready to take any chances, I immediately 
drive it home.

Battery appears to be charged but I put it on my charger anyway to be sure. 
While that’s going on I hook up the DAS to see what’s up, as well as get a look 
at the “actual values” for the rain sensor, which also works with the 
headlights for the automatic functions.

All of the sudden, my DAS system is flashing red all over the place. Whaaa??

Battery voltage is down to 10 volts??? The key is on for the diagnostics, but 
nothing is running like AC or other large consumers.

I get my 10 amp charger out and put it on the car. Voltage comes up. Hmm. I 
finish my DAS stuff.

Go to move the car. Battery dead.

So I yank the battery out and take it down to my FLAPS guy and he tests it. 
Bad. I give him BS about the machine saying that no matter what, as it doesn’t 
explain the reason why it failed the test. I’ve got a bunch of bonus bucks and 
a some discount codes, so I take the battery and go back home to put an order 
in for one along with a bunch of other stuff I needed.

Go down to FLAPS first this this morning. No regular H8 batteries. Really? The 
manager, who I know pretty well, drags a gold AGM off the shelf and says he’s 
going to give it to me at the same price as my regular battery. Woo-hoo!

And then he sees my order sitting on the shelf. Dang it!

So I’ve drug the new battery back home and installed it. I’m doing some other 
stuff to the car right now so I haven’t tried it, but I’m assuming it should be 
OK. While I had the battery out I popped a spark plug out to see what they 
looked like. Yikes! Electrode almost gone. No wonder it idles poorly and 
surges. Then I had to try and find someone who had 16 spark plugs in one 
location. No joy. Gotta make a couple of stops today to get plugs, too.

If it’s not one thing it’s another…

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT Frogbarge seats (observations on flying)

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

By the time they fly the MAX again, it will likely be the safest plane 
in the air.



On 31/05/2019 11:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, that’s pretty awesome. A lot tougher doing it from the private side as 
opposed to being former military.

Just tell him to stay away from the 737 MAX.

-D



On May 31, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes  
wrote:

Grant, Curley, Gerry wrote:

Congrats to your son ! ...

Well... he works for the federal aviation oversight agency and they
provided the time, he did the work.  Yes, it was a job to accomplish
and it was the job requirement.
Thanks, everyone.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] W163/ML Mania

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Well, you now know why the previous owner sold it.
Maybe you should too. Get yourself another 240D.



On 31/05/2019 11:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Man, this ML500 is killing me…

I’ve been fighting with an ELT/BAS/ABS and brake alert lights. The multiple 
light issue is a well known one, but can be any number of causes. I think I got 
it sorted. Now Im down to just a BAS light and a code for a bad steering angle 
sensor. I’ve got to do some checking, but I don’t think it’s bad, I just think 
there may be some corrosion issued in the connector, as this car sat for a good 
year before I got it.

Anyway, I’ve been driving it to work to get things figured out. Wednesday, no 
problem, just the BAS light on occasion. This is a Good Thing.

Thursday I drive in, no issues but the BAS light again, just as I pull into my 
space. Meh. Go out at lunch to make a dealer parts run. Dead.

Grrr.

I’m thinking I left the lights in the “Auto” position, which is not working 
properly, as it turns the lights on as soon as the key goes in and doesn’t turn 
them off in daylight. Hmm. We have a city wide car assistance service that will 
come and change tires, put gas in your car, give you a jump, etc. for free. I 
call them and they come into the garage.

No joy with their jumper pack. Push the car out of the space and they put the 
jumper cables on it - success! Not ready to take any chances, I immediately 
drive it home.

Battery appears to be charged but I put it on my charger anyway to be sure. 
While that’s going on I hook up the DAS to see what’s up, as well as get a look 
at the “actual values” for the rain sensor, which also works with the 
headlights for the automatic functions.

All of the sudden, my DAS system is flashing red all over the place. Whaaa??

Battery voltage is down to 10 volts??? The key is on for the diagnostics, but 
nothing is running like AC or other large consumers.

I get my 10 amp charger out and put it on the car. Voltage comes up. Hmm. I 
finish my DAS stuff.

Go to move the car. Battery dead.

So I yank the battery out and take it down to my FLAPS guy and he tests it. 
Bad. I give him BS about the machine saying that no matter what, as it doesn’t 
explain the reason why it failed the test. I’ve got a bunch of bonus bucks and 
a some discount codes, so I take the battery and go back home to put an order 
in for one along with a bunch of other stuff I needed.

Go down to FLAPS first this this morning. No regular H8 batteries. Really? The 
manager, who I know pretty well, drags a gold AGM off the shelf and says he’s 
going to give it to me at the same price as my regular battery. Woo-hoo!

And then he sees my order sitting on the shelf. Dang it!

So I’ve drug the new battery back home and installed it. I’m doing some other 
stuff to the car right now so I haven’t tried it, but I’m assuming it should be 
OK. While I had the battery out I popped a spark plug out to see what they 
looked like. Yikes! Electrode almost gone. No wonder it idles poorly and 
surges. Then I had to try and find someone who had 16 spark plugs in one 
location. No joy. Gotta make a couple of stops today to get plugs, too.

If it’s not one thing it’s another…

-D
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Re: [MBZ] okie acres flooding update

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

A couple of things I am going to try to get done today is check and adjust the 
IP timing on the 98 e300, see if I can find the source of the battery drain in 
that 210 wagon I picked up a while back, and maybe swap some modules over to 
the flood car and see if I can get it to run. 

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> On May 31, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> Excellent logic!
> 
> And then you’ll have all sorts of cars ready for sale and have big money.
> 
> -D
> 
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>> On May 31, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] okie acres flooding update

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I have got a few things done mainly the suburban and trailer ready to go on a 
towing trip. Problem is I need to order part to proceed with some things. The 
other issue is after working on suburban with the big tranny and diesel fuel 
spill all over the floor I need to clean it up before I can work in there. I 
need to get a big bag of cat litter to soak it up. 

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Re: [MBZ] W163/ML Mania

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New tires all around , at least the rears are new and the fronts have no wear 
to speak of. All four are the same brand/size tires.

Than BAS issue is clearly with the steering angle sensor, as the codes that are 
thrown all point to it. I’ve just got to determine if it’s cruddy or needs 
replacement.

I saw someone on BW said these cars had to have AGM batteries, but I don’t see 
that being an issue. They might have come with AGM batteries, but using a 
standard flooded lead acid battery certainly can’t affect its ability to 
operate properly.

Thanks!

-D

> On May 31, 2019, at 12:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rolling diameter is the same on all the tires, right?
> Or is the worn tire bad enough to make a difference in revolutions per mile?
> My 163 throws an ABS (not BAS) light when a tire gets low. 
> Which reminds me, have to find out why the one tire is always a few pounds 
> low if I don't top it off for a couple of months.
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Re: [MBZ] W163/ML Mania

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Rolling diameter is the same on all the tires, right?
Or is the worn tire bad enough to make a difference in revolutions per mile?
My 163 throws an ABS (not BAS) light when a tire gets low. 
Which reminds me, have to find out why the one tire is always a few pounds low 
if I don't top it off for a couple of months.

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[MBZ] W163/ML Mania

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Man, this ML500 is killing me…

I’ve been fighting with an ELT/BAS/ABS and brake alert lights. The multiple 
light issue is a well known one, but can be any number of causes. I think I got 
it sorted. Now Im down to just a BAS light and a code for a bad steering angle 
sensor. I’ve got to do some checking, but I don’t think it’s bad, I just think 
there may be some corrosion issued in the connector, as this car sat for a good 
year before I got it.

Anyway, I’ve been driving it to work to get things figured out. Wednesday, no 
problem, just the BAS light on occasion. This is a Good Thing.

Thursday I drive in, no issues but the BAS light again, just as I pull into my 
space. Meh. Go out at lunch to make a dealer parts run. Dead.

Grrr.

I’m thinking I left the lights in the “Auto” position, which is not working 
properly, as it turns the lights on as soon as the key goes in and doesn’t turn 
them off in daylight. Hmm. We have a city wide car assistance service that will 
come and change tires, put gas in your car, give you a jump, etc. for free. I 
call them and they come into the garage.

No joy with their jumper pack. Push the car out of the space and they put the 
jumper cables on it - success! Not ready to take any chances, I immediately 
drive it home.

Battery appears to be charged but I put it on my charger anyway to be sure. 
While that’s going on I hook up the DAS to see what’s up, as well as get a look 
at the “actual values” for the rain sensor, which also works with the 
headlights for the automatic functions.

All of the sudden, my DAS system is flashing red all over the place. Whaaa??

Battery voltage is down to 10 volts??? The key is on for the diagnostics, but 
nothing is running like AC or other large consumers.

I get my 10 amp charger out and put it on the car. Voltage comes up. Hmm. I 
finish my DAS stuff.

Go to move the car. Battery dead.

So I yank the battery out and take it down to my FLAPS guy and he tests it. 
Bad. I give him BS about the machine saying that no matter what, as it doesn’t 
explain the reason why it failed the test. I’ve got a bunch of bonus bucks and 
a some discount codes, so I take the battery and go back home to put an order 
in for one along with a bunch of other stuff I needed.

Go down to FLAPS first this this morning. No regular H8 batteries. Really? The 
manager, who I know pretty well, drags a gold AGM off the shelf and says he’s 
going to give it to me at the same price as my regular battery. Woo-hoo!

And then he sees my order sitting on the shelf. Dang it!

So I’ve drug the new battery back home and installed it. I’m doing some other 
stuff to the car right now so I haven’t tried it, but I’m assuming it should be 
OK. While I had the battery out I popped a spark plug out to see what they 
looked like. Yikes! Electrode almost gone. No wonder it idles poorly and 
surges. Then I had to try and find someone who had 16 spark plugs in one 
location. No joy. Gotta make a couple of stops today to get plugs, too.

If it’s not one thing it’s another…

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT Frogbarge seats (observations on flying)

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-D wrote:
> Just tell him to stay away from the 737 MAX.

An interesting note about the MAX - US / Euro pilots never had a
problem with MAX.  Also, MAX is the first Boeing to adopt the Airbus
style of operation/control.  Airbus implementation of doing the flying
of the aircraft has been their approach to systems whereas Boeing has
always, until MAX, put priority on pilot rather than system.  There
are better words in the industry to express this, but I am not in the
industry.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] okie acres flooding update

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Excellent logic!

And then you’ll have all sorts of cars ready for sale and have big money.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] OT Frogbarge seats (observations on flying)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, that’s pretty awesome. A lot tougher doing it from the private side as 
opposed to being former military.

Just tell him to stay away from the 737 MAX.

-D


> On May 31, 2019, at 12:09 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
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> 
> Grant, Curley, Gerry wrote:
>> Congrats to your son ! ...
> 
> Well... he works for the federal aviation oversight agency and they
> provided the time, he did the work.  Yes, it was a job to accomplish
> and it was the job requirement.
> Thanks, everyone.
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Re: [MBZ] okie acres flooding update

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So if you can't leave, maybe you can get some work done on the vehicles?

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] OT Frogbarge seats (observations on flying)

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Grant, Curley, Gerry wrote:
> Congrats to your son ! ...

Well... he works for the federal aviation oversight agency and they
provided the time, he did the work.  Yes, it was a job to accomplish
and it was the job requirement.
Thanks, everyone.
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes V12 diesel?

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> On May 31, 2019 at 7:42 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The 94 is an SL600 (or 600SL, I forget when it changed), you can see the V12 
> badge on the fender. Definitely not a diesel. The 450SL definitely not a 
> diesel either. 

Both left the factory with gas engines, but now?
Anyway, two red SLs, biggest available engines, 20 years apart, any chance the 
seller bought them both new and they're in original but dusty condition?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] okie acres flooding update

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

So you need plans to build a boat?

Also, the weight of the water can cause the earth to deform downward,
meaning that flood level is a lower bar (easier, less water required) than
before, so it takes longer for the flood to recede.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> The river is now down to 35.09' and we still can't leave.  The forecast
> keeps pushing out when the river will drop below flood stage.
> Originally is was Friday night, then Saturday by 1am, now it is Saturday
> by 1pm.  I am still not clear on if the river dropping below flood stage
> will cause the water clear the road.  I suspect we could run into a
> situation where the issue could be the lake backed up rather than the
> river flooded.  They have been reducing the flow out of the dam at the
> lake due to all the flooding downstream.  The current as of yesterday
> was still flowing over the road from the north to the south toward the
> lake so to me that indicates it is river flow.  I am assuming if the
> river drops and the water over the road is standing still, that would be
> flooding from the lake backed up.  The big problem is we are forecast to
> get rain Saturday night then a chance everyday next week.  All of which
> seems to be focused in our area and to the north which would cause all
> that water to come down to us again.
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[MBZ] okie acres flooding update

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The river is now down to 35.09' and we still can't leave.  The forecast 
keeps pushing out when the river will drop below flood stage.  
Originally is was Friday night, then Saturday by 1am, now it is Saturday 
by 1pm.  I am still not clear on if the river dropping below flood stage 
will cause the water clear the road.  I suspect we could run into a 
situation where the issue could be the lake backed up rather than the 
river flooded.  They have been reducing the flow out of the dam at the 
lake due to all the flooding downstream.  The current as of yesterday 
was still flowing over the road from the north to the south toward the 
lake so to me that indicates it is river flow.  I am assuming if the 
river drops and the water over the road is standing still, that would be 
flooding from the lake backed up.  The big problem is we are forecast to 
get rain Saturday night then a chance everyday next week.  All of which 
seems to be focused in our area and to the north which would cause all 
that water to come down to us again.



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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 63 Mercedes 220 s

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Saturday 9/14 for Q12.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> Curt
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> Gopher it, it'll earn a special prize at the Q.
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 63 Mercedes 220 s

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I just couldn't take the color.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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Re: [MBZ] sightings MB, VW anad BMW Motorrad

[MG via Mercedes]

Friend at the Orlando German Club has a Thing 
that he painted WWII camouflage. Set up seats 
as close to Kübelwagen as possible and all 
the tools on the outside. Former US Army 
armored command colonel posted to Germany 
most of his career.


MG

Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Last weekend, I saw a nice silver 300D ripping down the road.   A couple 
days later I heard, then saw a Thing, still running.   That is unusual.


BMWs:A very nice /2   probably an R50/2 or a R60/2   You can't tell 
from the outside.  Beautiful, and correct.  It was running along US 90.
Lotsa  Po lice RS twins.   I had to laugh, because they all had gimbel 
mounted cupholders.   No more "Ven you drife,  you drife; ven you trink, 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes V12 diesel?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Don’t bet on it. A lot of times people at the auctions will think these cars 
are worth a ton of money and bid they way up. Wouldn’t be surprised if they 
don’t go for $10k or more. 

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> On May 31, 2019, at 6:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> 
> The 94 is an SL600 (or 600SL, I forget when it changed), you can see the V12 
> badge on the fender. Definitely not a diesel. The 450SL definitely not a 
> diesel either. 
> 
> Someone needs to go and check out the sale, I bet those cars go cheepcheep. 
> The 600 could fetch $7kish on the open market if in good condition, maybe 
> more with the low miles if everything works. 450 says 10k miles, that could 
> be over $10k if that is so. Could be bargains to flip. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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>> On May 31, 2019, at 3:09 AM, fmiser via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> There's an estate auction in mid Missouri on Saturday.
>> https://www.auctionzip.com/Listings/3278748.html
>> 
>> Two Mercedes are listed.  
>> 
>> "1994 Mercedes V12 hardtop convertible, red w/tan interior, shows
>> 76,300 miles, diesel, good rubber on Michelin tires"
>> 
>> and
>> 
>> "1973 Mercedes 450 SL hardtop convertible, red w/tan & black interior,
>> shows 10,200 miles, diesel"
>> 
>> I wonder what they really are?
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes V12 diesel?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

The 94 is an SL600 (or 600SL, I forget when it changed), you can see the V12 
badge on the fender. Definitely not a diesel. The 450SL definitely not a diesel 
either. 

Someone needs to go and check out the sale, I bet those cars go cheepcheep. The 
600 could fetch $7kish on the open market if in good condition, maybe more with 
the low miles if everything works. 450 says 10k miles, that could be over $10k 
if that is so. Could be bargains to flip. 

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> There's an estate auction in mid Missouri on Saturday.
> https://www.auctionzip.com/Listings/3278748.html
> 
> Two Mercedes are listed.  
> 
> "1994 Mercedes V12 hardtop convertible, red w/tan interior, shows
> 76,300 miles, diesel, good rubber on Michelin tires"
> 
> and
> 
> "1973 Mercedes 450 SL hardtop convertible, red w/tan & black interior,
> shows 10,200 miles, diesel"
> 
> I wonder what they really are?
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 63 Mercedes 220 s

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Early September, around the 10th, Dwight knows for sure.
Curt

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Gopher it, it'll earn a special prize at the Q.

Curt

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[MBZ] Mercedes V12 diesel?

[fmiser via Mercedes]

There's an estate auction in mid Missouri on Saturday.
https://www.auctionzip.com/Listings/3278748.html

Two Mercedes are listed.  

"1994 Mercedes V12 hardtop convertible, red w/tan interior, shows
76,300 miles, diesel, good rubber on Michelin tires"

and

"1973 Mercedes 450 SL hardtop convertible, red w/tan & black interior,
shows 10,200 miles, diesel"

I wonder what they really are?

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 63 Mercedes 220 s

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

What date is the Q again?


Rick

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Gopher it, it'll earn a special prize at the Q.

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 63 Mercedes 220 s

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Gopher it, it'll earn a special prize at the Q.

Curt

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