Re: [MBZ] Tyrrany in Kiwi land
Ahhh! Good old Aussie strine, but the Kiwi's don't speak strine, mate, they speak Kiwi. Gerry G Mann wrote: > G'day Mate... No worries snarky is that a new brand of beer? > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 2:33 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:34:30 -0400 > > Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > > > > > Dara doesn't live here any more > > > -_FT > > > > Yeah, those Kiwi's move around a lot. > > Gerry > > > > > On 7/1/19 3:12 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: > > > > Hi Dara, > > > > These were posted on another list. The first one is self explanatory. > > > > The second one is a snarky statement to a police officer about two men > > it is inferred that he shot on his property (thieves?), but claims that > > they shot each other. > > > > Gerry > > > > Comment? > > > > === > > > > > > > >>> "Those pesky kiwis are standing against our tyranny!" > > > >>> > > > >>> "As most gun owners realize, registration historically always comes > > > >>> before confiscation, and confiscation always comes before formerly > > free > > > >>> people are forced on their knees in front of a ditch because they > > > >>> foolishly gave up their guns." From "Rebellion against New > > Zealand > > > >>> Gun Ban bigger then anyone expected" > > > >>> > > > >>> > > https://www.americangunnews.com/rebellion-against-new-zealand-gun-ban-bigger-than-anyone-expected/ > > > > ... > > > >> All the guns were lost in a deep water boating accident Officer, thank > > > >> goodness I had my Obama phone so I could call you to come draw chalk > > lines > > > >> around these people that got into a gun fight on my property and > > killed > > > >> each other. > > > >> I didn't see anything, I was hiding as soon as I heard shooting, I'm > > scared > > > >> of guns. I just called my lawyer, he should be here soon and then I > > plan to > > > >> give you my statement. You will want to go speak with my lawyers > > scheduling > > > >> gal, Helen Waite, > > > > --- > > > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > > > https://www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > --FT > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > arche...@embarqmail.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Do Your Brain a Favor, Ditch the GPS
I provided a paper city map to #2 boy so could explore beyond the college. He said he had a phone. I told him this was a more complete big picture view that allows for better granularity. clay > On Jun 30, 2019, at 4:05 AM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > > I love to look up where I want to go on maps either on-line or on paper. Then > I put my destination into the GPS, go my way and watch it flail around trying > to tell me which way I should be going and continually recalculating as it > tries to correct my wrong turns. Lots of fun and keeps me entertained while > driving. > > MG, with a small mind and simple pleasures ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tyrrany in Kiwi land
G'day Mate... No worries snarky is that a new brand of beer? On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 2:33 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:34:30 -0400 > Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > > > Dara doesn't live here any more > > -_FT > > Yeah, those Kiwi's move around a lot. > Gerry > > > On 7/1/19 3:12 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: > > > Hi Dara, > > > These were posted on another list. The first one is self explanatory. > > > The second one is a snarky statement to a police officer about two men > it is inferred that he shot on his property (thieves?), but claims that > they shot each other. > > > Gerry > > > Comment? > > > === > > > > > >>> "Those pesky kiwis are standing against our tyranny!" > > >>> > > >>> "As most gun owners realize, registration historically always comes > > >>> before confiscation, and confiscation always comes before formerly > free > > >>> people are forced on their knees in front of a ditch because they > > >>> foolishly gave up their guns." From "Rebellion against New > Zealand > > >>> Gun Ban bigger then anyone expected" > > >>> > > >>> > https://www.americangunnews.com/rebellion-against-new-zealand-gun-ban-bigger-than-anyone-expected/ > > > ... > > >> All the guns were lost in a deep water boating accident Officer, thank > > >> goodness I had my Obama phone so I could call you to come draw chalk > lines > > >> around these people that got into a gun fight on my property and > killed > > >> each other. > > >> I didn't see anything, I was hiding as soon as I heard shooting, I'm > scared > > >> of guns. I just called my lawyer, he should be here soon and then I > plan to > > >> give you my statement. You will want to go speak with my lawyers > scheduling > > >> gal, Helen Waite, > > > --- > > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > > https://www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > -- > > --FT > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > -- > arche...@embarqmail.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kids not listening such as those on Fakebook
#1 boy attended a state school out of state with rebate on tuition for attending a school part of a multi-state sharing program (we offer you lower tuition so you offer our kids lower than out of state deal). Annual cost was about $22k. #2 boy attends private institution at $65k per annum. #1 boy now has a career becoming an electrician which will pay a decent living wage as he progresses. Many of his class mates are pursuing post graduate programs because they could not find jobs to pay school loans. A few did get real job offers and are paying back loans. clay > On Jun 29, 2019, at 4:03 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Put another way, make it into a business case. Inputs: total cost of degree > in a chosen field, and average wage in that field. Compare colleges based on > (a) the percentage of students who are employed in their chosen field after > graduation, and (b) cost of the degree vs. average wage. What is the risk, > what is the potential return on investment? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] low flow shower heads
I did that to my kids! Take a plastic disk from a bottle cap and drill a hole in it. Whatever size for your flow rate. Put it in the shower head where it screws into the pipe. “Walla” your basic low flow shower head. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 1, 2019, at 11:25 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 22:17:44 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> The trend lately in the house is everyone seems to take 30-60 minute >> showers. After working in the shop all day with grease from head to >> toe I take maybe a 10 minute shower if that. So, that got me to >> thinking about installing the lowest flow shower head I can find in the >> other bathroom that gets these long showers. Any thoughts? > > Sounds like a good idea to me ... just don't let the others know you > don't have a low flow shower head. > > Or you could do like my Dad did to me when I was in high school taking a > long shower: He turned the hot water off at the hot water heater. That > ended my shower real quickly. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] low flow shower heads
On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 22:17:44 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > The trend lately in the house is everyone seems to take 30-60 minute > showers. After working in the shop all day with grease from head to > toe I take maybe a 10 minute shower if that. So, that got me to > thinking about installing the lowest flow shower head I can find in the > other bathroom that gets these long showers. Any thoughts? Sounds like a good idea to me ... just don't let the others know you don't have a low flow shower head. Or you could do like my Dad did to me when I was in high school taking a long shower: He turned the hot water off at the hot water heater. That ended my shower real quickly. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] low flow shower heads
The trend lately in the house is everyone seems to take 30-60 minute showers. After working in the shop all day with grease from head to toe I take maybe a 10 minute shower if that. So, that got me to thinking about installing the lowest flow shower head I can find in the other bathroom that gets these long showers. Any thoughts? --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
It is a physical impossibility. Displaced, emissions, perhaps, but 0 emissions = 0 lift. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 7/1/19 6:51 PM: Actually, what's wrong with a zero emissions plane? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Do Your Brain a Favor, Ditch the GPS
Personally, I like Einfart and Ausfart. Craig via Mercedes wrote on 7/1/19 3:31 PM: On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 15:56:33 -0400 MG via Mercedes wrote: It's especially fun if you change the voice to the Aussie womans voice and listen to the weird pronunciations of the streets and road names. I used the British female voice for a while once. They have different names for things like freeway on-ramps and such. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
"We believe it is feasible for short-haul electric jets to be coming to the market by the mid '20s [or] '30s." "electric jet"??? If its elektrick, it is NOT a jet. If it is a Jet, is is not Lektrick, (other than the starter and aux power...) Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 7/1/19 8:03 AM: No diesel content. Now arriving: Electric airplanesPublished: Friday, June 28, 2019[image: Faradair hybrid airplane. Photo credit: Faradair/Cover images/Newscom] Faradair's hybrid airplane prototype. Faradair/Cover images/Newscom Startup plane manufacturers are edging their way into the aviation market by way of short-haul electric aircraft that could inspire technology for all-electric commercial air travel in the not-too-distant future. Eviation Aircraft is one of them; the Israeli startup announced last week that Alice, its first all-electric plane, will take flight in 2022. Alice planes will carry nine passengers up to 650 miles and currently sport a hefty $4 million price tag. "It's exciting for us that these big manufacturers and startups [are] looking at this possibility," said Chris Goater, assistant communications director at the International Air Transport Association. "We believe it is feasible for short-haul electric jets to be coming to the market by the mid '20s [or] '30s." A handful of other manufacturers join Eviation in a push to move the aviation industry away from jet fuel. The Ampaire 337 is a six-passenger hybrid aircraft, which completed a landmark test flight earlier this month in Camarillo, Calif. The company plans to fly regional commercial routes in Hawaii and is also working with Puerto Rico-based airline Vieques Air Link. JetSuite, a luxury travel agency, announced in October 2018 it will buy 100 ZA10 12-passenger planes from Washington startup Zunum Aero. Another hybrid aircraft, the ZA10 cuts emissions by 80% compared with conventional jet fuel and is slated to begin test flights in 2020, according to the company. And Faradair, a U.K.-based hybrid aircraft manufacturer, anticipates its 18-passenger plane will first take flight in 2022. But Eviation's Alice plane, which premiered last week at the Paris Air Show, stands out, observers say. For one thing, its all-electric engine sets it apart from hybrid-producing competitors. And its nine-passenger capacity and purchase by Cape Air make it a landmark model in aviation electrification. "The demand is there and is growing, so we would expect other (larger) plane classes to move to electrify their fleets, just as what's happened in ground transportation," Eviation spokeswoman Michelle Spita wrote in an email to E News. "It just makes economic sense." 'Something's gotta give' Commercial aviation currently makes up 2% of global carbon dioxide emissions and accounts for 12% of all CO2 emissions from the transportation sector, according to the International Council on Clean Transportation. Such statistics spurred the industry to aim to cut net emissions in half by 2050, according to IATA. Electrification is a bold step, as the aviation industry has historically relied on biofuels and carbon offsets to improve its environmental record, said Dan Rutherford, director of the aviation program at ICCT. "The cracks in the foundation of that are starting to show," Rutherford said, adding that manufacturers are now considering whether these methods are reducing CO2 as much as they should be. Demand for air travel, meanwhile, is still growing, Goater said, which makes cutting the industry's carbon emissions more difficult. Some developing economies, like in Latin America and East Asia, are now at a point where residents can afford to "fly, explore and do business in ways that people in the West do," he said. "Growth in Europe and North American markets will be more subdued because they're more mature markets," Goater said. "But there will be continued growth." ICCT estimates that at current rates, the number of commercial flights — and the emissions from those flights — will triple by 2050. "Something's gotta give" if the aviation industry wants to continue reducing its carbon footprint, Rutherford said. While all-electric planes like Alice are innovative and promising in the long run, Goater and Rutherford emphasized the industry still lacks the technology needed to power commercial jets by battery alone — Rutherford said the weight of batteries that could power large aircraft would be too burdensome. "Hybrid electric aircrafts are a way to get around the battery weight problem," he added. But partnerships between smaller and larger manufacturers do have the potential to propel electric innovation — and production — forward, Rutherford said. In the meantime, Goater said, the industry will continue to leverage hybrid models, aerodynamic design, biofuels and offsets to minimize its carbon footprint. "These programs that are coming forward are exiting, fantastic," Goater said. "But we're not relying on those."
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
*Reductio ad absurdo.* On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:06 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Neutron bomb? > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:41 PM G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > How about creating zero emissions cities? > > > > > where is the off switch for big cities and population? > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
Neutron bomb? - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:41 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > How about creating zero emissions cities? > where is the off switch for big cities and population? > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel finny
I had a 1963 190dc. Black on red vinyl. 4 on the tree. It was a great driving car. No seatbelts though. You could practically rent the trunk out on air bnb. On Mon, Jul 1, 2019, 8:53 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Haul... > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 11:49 AM Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > > Begging the question, what can you hall with this beast? > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 11:16 AM OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > >> That looks more like quilting to me than tufting, BUT, it has a trailer > >> hitch!!! > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:52 AM G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com > >> > > >> wrote: > >> > >> > "Bordello Red" with 8 track tunes... so you can be Disco. > >> > > >> > Martha can't fix that > >> > > >> > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:16 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < > >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Getuftet. Proper tufting (as produced by the many, many > >> > Hispanically-owned > >> > > upholstery shops near my home) is less checkerboardy, a bit more > >> > creative. > >> > > I’ve never seen anything like that before. > >> > > > >> > > Bob R > >> > > > >> > > Sent from my iPhone > >> > > > >> > > > On Jul 1, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > >> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Was there such an upholstery option? What's German for "tufted"?? > >> > > > > >> > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > >> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > >> Love the 8 track in the dash. At least it appears to be an 8 > track > >> > > player. > >> > > >> Goes right along with that funky upholstery. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> -D > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >> > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> Mercedes Benze 190DC diesel car 190dc > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://stlouis.craigslist.org/pts/d/edwardsville-mercedes-benze-190dc/6923999646.html > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> ___ > >> > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > >>> > >> > > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> ___ > >> > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > >> > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > > ___ > >> > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > > > >> > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > > > >> > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > ___ > >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > > >> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > > >> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ___ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> OK Don > >> > >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain > >> > >> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > >> who > >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > >> for themselves." > >> > >> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg > >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options
Re: [MBZ] Evapectomy
Yes, he's got some great DIY videos for re-sealing compressors. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:22 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Century Bob is my ac hero, hahaha. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: July 1, 2019 7:19 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: dillonm...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Evapectomy > > Peter - this seal was new about ten or twelve years ago, and now it is time > for a another new seal (my other 124, the '95 E300, just had the compressor > shaft seal expire and then got all new seals for that compressor). > > Just took a peek, with the help of a UV light, nice green dye glow from the > oil gathered on the compressor nose. > > Going to check for stock with the best FLAPS, an independent place, and if > they don't have it then I'll be ordering a seal kit from Century air... > - > Max > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
Andrew, How about creating zero emissions cities? The real cause of worldwide pollution is the intense people density of city dwellers. The extreme high concentration of people, with their cumulative pollution density, of all types, is having a huge effect on the world atmosphere, soil condition, and resource depletion. Yet, no one in the "green energy" crowd addresses this root cause. To many people packed into cities using millions of tons of materials which cause pollution to produce and when used. Remove the demand, let the prairies and forests regrow. But, no, that approach is ignored. Instead, focus on mouse fart control, or something equally not focused on the root cause. You are a smart guy, where is the off switch for big cities and population? On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:13 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Actually, you should call them remote emission planes, but the problem is > the energy density of batteries vs fuel. As Grant stated, weight is the > opposite of lift (flying). The more weight, the less flying you can do. So, > keeping weight to a reasonable value with batteries means very limited > range/speed. > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 6:52 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Actually, what's wrong with a zero emissions plane? > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 12:37 PM fmiser via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Mitch wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm confused. > > > > The energy density of the batteries is too low for us to have > > > > electric airliners, so instead we'll make partially electric > > > > airliners? > > > > > > Logic. You are using logic. > > > > > > What you are supposed to do is say, "Oooh! Electric is good. The > > > planet will thank you!" but do not - I repeat - DO NOT start > > > thinking!!! > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] NAPA Mobil1 Special
I just received an email from NAPA describing their Mobil1 oil special at $4.99/quart. http://link.mailing.napaonline.com/t.d?M5fAunEnwunkxmAWEH65OdyEOGfyqeCz30gggZn7OU9qYtTBjhwHfvA47OmUDBC3xD_n1x-ugYxErlb24OHqhGq-K-iPnukbko26vHeIzLiOm050yjXYdKL7hAP3pPyG.enc=web I think WallyMart might be cheaper on 5-quart jugs, though. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Evapectomy
Century Bob is my ac hero, hahaha. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: July 1, 2019 7:19 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: dillonm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Evapectomy Peter - this seal was new about ten or twelve years ago, and now it is time for a another new seal (my other 124, the '95 E300, just had the compressor shaft seal expire and then got all new seals for that compressor). Just took a peek, with the help of a UV light, nice green dye glow from the oil gathered on the compressor nose. Going to check for stock with the best FLAPS, an independent place, and if they don't have it then I'll be ordering a seal kit from Century air... - Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Evapectomy
Peter - this seal was new about ten or twelve years ago, and now it is time for a another new seal (my other 124, the '95 E300, just had the compressor shaft seal expire and then got all new seals for that compressor). Just took a peek, with the help of a UV light, nice green dye glow from the oil gathered on the compressor nose. Going to check for stock with the best FLAPS, an independent place, and if they don't have it then I'll be ordering a seal kit from Century air... - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 6:52 PM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The new seals often leak a tiny bit when freshly installed, they wear in > and seal properly after a few hours of running. > > And sometimes they keep leaking, alas. > > Peter > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
I guess time will tell. On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:13 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Actually, you should call them remote emission planes, but the problem is > the energy density of batteries vs fuel. As Grant stated, weight is the > opposite of lift (flying). The more weight, the less flying you can do. So, > keeping weight to a reasonable value with batteries means very limited > range/speed. > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 6:52 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Actually, what's wrong with a zero emissions plane? > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 12:37 PM fmiser via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Mitch wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm confused. > > > > The energy density of the batteries is too low for us to have > > > > electric airliners, so instead we'll make partially electric > > > > airliners? > > > > > > Logic. You are using logic. > > > > > > What you are supposed to do is say, "Oooh! Electric is good. The > > > planet will thank you!" but do not - I repeat - DO NOT start > > > thinking!!! > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
Actually, you should call them remote emission planes, but the problem is the energy density of batteries vs fuel. As Grant stated, weight is the opposite of lift (flying). The more weight, the less flying you can do. So, keeping weight to a reasonable value with batteries means very limited range/speed. On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 6:52 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Actually, what's wrong with a zero emissions plane? > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 12:37 PM fmiser via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > Mitch wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm confused. > > > The energy density of the batteries is too low for us to have > > > electric airliners, so instead we'll make partially electric > > > airliners? > > > > Logic. You are using logic. > > > > What you are supposed to do is say, "Oooh! Electric is good. The > > planet will thank you!" but do not - I repeat - DO NOT start > > thinking!!! > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
Actually, what's wrong with a zero emissions plane? On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 12:37 PM fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Mitch wrote: > > > > > I'm confused. > > The energy density of the batteries is too low for us to have > > electric airliners, so instead we'll make partially electric > > airliners? > > Logic. You are using logic. > > What you are supposed to do is say, "Oooh! Electric is good. The > planet will thank you!" but do not - I repeat - DO NOT start > thinking!!! > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Evapectomy
The new seals often leak a tiny bit when freshly installed, they wear in and seal properly after a few hours of running. And sometimes they keep leaking, alas. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tyrrany in Kiwi land
On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 15:34:30 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > Dara doesn't live here any more > -_FT Yeah, those Kiwi's move around a lot. Gerry > On 7/1/19 3:12 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: > > Hi Dara, > > These were posted on another list. The first one is self explanatory. > > The second one is a snarky statement to a police officer about two men it > > is inferred that he shot on his property (thieves?), but claims that they > > shot each other. > > Gerry > > Comment? > > === > > > >>> "Those pesky kiwis are standing against our tyranny!" > >>> > >>> "As most gun owners realize, registration historically always comes > >>> before confiscation, and confiscation always comes before formerly free > >>> people are forced on their knees in front of a ditch because they > >>> foolishly gave up their guns." From "Rebellion against New Zealand > >>> Gun Ban bigger then anyone expected" > >>> > >>> https://www.americangunnews.com/rebellion-against-new-zealand-gun-ban-bigger-than-anyone-expected/ > > ... > >> All the guns were lost in a deep water boating accident Officer, thank > >> goodness I had my Obama phone so I could call you to come draw chalk lines > >> around these people that got into a gun fight on my property and killed > >> each other. > >> I didn't see anything, I was hiding as soon as I heard shooting, I'm scared > >> of guns. I just called my lawyer, he should be here soon and then I plan to > >> give you my statement. You will want to go speak with my lawyers scheduling > >> gal, Helen Waite, > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > https://www.avg.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tyrrany in Kiwi land
> Snarky? Grant? Never! > - > Max > Charleston SC You're right, Max, he's the soul of decorum. [:o) Gerry > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 3:35 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Dara doesn't live here any more > > > > -_FT > > > > On 7/1/19 3:12 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: > > > Hi Dara, > > > These were posted on another list. The first one is self explanatory. > > > The second one is a snarky statement to a police officer about two men > > it is inferred that he shot on his property (thieves?), but claims that > > they shot each other. > > > Gerry > > > Comment? > > > === > > > > > >>> "Those pesky kiwis are standing against our tyranny!" > > >>> > > >>> "As most gun owners realize, registration historically always comes > > >>> before confiscation, and confiscation always comes before formerly free > > >>> people are forced on their knees in front of a ditch because they > > >>> foolishly gave up their guns." From "Rebellion against New Zealand > > >>> Gun Ban bigger then anyone expected" > > >>> > > >>> > > https://www.americangunnews.com/rebellion-against-new-zealand-gun-ban-bigger-than-anyone-expected/ > > > ... > > >> All the guns were lost in a deep water boating accident Officer, thank > > >> goodness I had my Obama phone so I could call you to come draw chalk > > lines > > >> around these people that got into a gun fight on my property and killed > > >> each other. > > >> I didn't see anything, I was hiding as soon as I heard shooting, I'm > > scared > > >> of guns. I just called my lawyer, he should be here soon and then I > > plan to > > >> give you my statement. You will want to go speak with my lawyers > > scheduling > > >> gal, Helen Waite, > > > --- > > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > > https://www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > -- > > --FT > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- arche...@embarqmail.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fancy Computer, was Re: ML 722.6 results
My 95 SL has a connector for the computer to talk to it. It's an earlier system though, maybe the C3, the newer cars are C4 or might be something else now for the even newer cars --FT On 7/1/19 4:26 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 18:24:09 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I’ll defer to others with more current knowledge, but I would suggest a Mercedes C4 SD Connect system. I have a C3, which is hardwired via serial port, but the C4 can do WiFi with the MUX, I believe. For what year do the computer systems become useful? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Do Your Brain a Favor, Ditch the GPS
On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 15:56:33 -0400 MG via Mercedes wrote: > It's especially fun if you change the voice to the > Aussie womans voice and listen to the weird > pronunciations of the streets and road names. I used the British female voice for a while once. They have different names for things like freeway on-ramps and such. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fancy Computer, was Re: ML 722.6 results
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019 18:24:09 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > I’ll defer to others with more current knowledge, but I would suggest a > Mercedes C4 SD Connect system. I have a C3, which is hardwired via > serial port, but the C4 can do WiFi with the MUX, I believe. For what year do the computer systems become useful? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Evapectomy
On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 10:32:16 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > I've got plenty of the propane / butane blend on hand, so I decided to > press ahead and find out for sure. Swapped in new receiver / dryer, > pulled a vacuum for 30 minutes then let that sit for 30 minutes, it > lost about half a psi, dropping from 29.5 to 29. Another sign of a > leak. That would probably be "inches of mercury" instead of "psi". > Put in the lost oil (60 ml)and hydrocarbon blend, and checked again for > leaks after letting it run for a bit, but only got one hit of sniffer > alarm at the front of the compressor, with repeated testing on a cycle > at all the various points around the system over about 30 minutes. > > I'm thinking the shaft seal is the culprit, so another compressor > re-seal is probably in my future. Practice makes perfect? :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT so my friend bought a car yesterday
Yeah I saw that. The forum seems to think that outfit is probably the OEM supplier of the Nissan juice. Lot cheaper than the Nissan branded stuff or other vendors. She's gonna get some. --FT On 7/1/19 3:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: I believe this is the OEM stuff for NS-2: https://www.amazon.com/Idemitsu-30040091-95300C020-Transmission-Fluid-Nissan-5/dp/B07M9485N5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] There is no mechanical or cosmetical problems
On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 13:14:52 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > Outta my price range but looks nice > > https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/myrtle-beach-mercedes-benz-cl500-amg/6923128167.html But it's still a Cheap Class ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tyrrany in Kiwi land
Snarky? Grant? Never! - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 3:35 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dara doesn't live here any more > > -_FT > > On 7/1/19 3:12 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: > > Hi Dara, > > These were posted on another list. The first one is self explanatory. > > The second one is a snarky statement to a police officer about two men > it is inferred that he shot on his property (thieves?), but claims that > they shot each other. > > Gerry > > Comment? > > === > > > >>> "Those pesky kiwis are standing against our tyranny!" > >>> > >>> "As most gun owners realize, registration historically always comes > >>> before confiscation, and confiscation always comes before formerly free > >>> people are forced on their knees in front of a ditch because they > >>> foolishly gave up their guns." From "Rebellion against New Zealand > >>> Gun Ban bigger then anyone expected" > >>> > >>> > https://www.americangunnews.com/rebellion-against-new-zealand-gun-ban-bigger-than-anyone-expected/ > > ... > >> All the guns were lost in a deep water boating accident Officer, thank > >> goodness I had my Obama phone so I could call you to come draw chalk > lines > >> around these people that got into a gun fight on my property and killed > >> each other. > >> I didn't see anything, I was hiding as soon as I heard shooting, I'm > scared > >> of guns. I just called my lawyer, he should be here soon and then I > plan to > >> give you my statement. You will want to go speak with my lawyers > scheduling > >> gal, Helen Waite, > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > > https://www.avg.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tyrrany in Kiwi land
Dara doesn't live here any more -_FT On 7/1/19 3:12 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Hi Dara, These were posted on another list. The first one is self explanatory. The second one is a snarky statement to a police officer about two men it is inferred that he shot on his property (thieves?), but claims that they shot each other. Gerry Comment? === "Those pesky kiwis are standing against our tyranny!" "As most gun owners realize, registration historically always comes before confiscation, and confiscation always comes before formerly free people are forced on their knees in front of a ditch because they foolishly gave up their guns." From "Rebellion against New Zealand Gun Ban bigger then anyone expected" https://www.americangunnews.com/rebellion-against-new-zealand-gun-ban-bigger-than-anyone-expected/ ... All the guns were lost in a deep water boating accident Officer, thank goodness I had my Obama phone so I could call you to come draw chalk lines around these people that got into a gun fight on my property and killed each other. I didn't see anything, I was hiding as soon as I heard shooting, I'm scared of guns. I just called my lawyer, he should be here soon and then I plan to give you my statement. You will want to go speak with my lawyers scheduling gal, Helen Waite, --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Tyrrany in Kiwi land
Hi Dara, These were posted on another list. The first one is self explanatory. The second one is a snarky statement to a police officer about two men it is inferred that he shot on his property (thieves?), but claims that they shot each other. Gerry Comment? === > > "Those pesky kiwis are standing against our tyranny!" > > > > "As most gun owners realize, registration historically always comes > > before confiscation, and confiscation always comes before formerly free > > people are forced on their knees in front of a ditch because they > > foolishly gave up their guns." From "Rebellion against New Zealand > > Gun Ban bigger then anyone expected" > > > > https://www.americangunnews.com/rebellion-against-new-zealand-gun-ban-bigger-than-anyone-expected/ ... > All the guns were lost in a deep water boating accident Officer, thank > goodness I had my Obama phone so I could call you to come draw chalk lines > around these people that got into a gun fight on my property and killed > each other. > I didn't see anything, I was hiding as soon as I heard shooting, I'm scared > of guns. I just called my lawyer, he should be here soon and then I plan to > give you my statement. You will want to go speak with my lawyers scheduling > gal, Helen Waite, --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT so my friend bought a car yesterday
I just ordered 2gal of the Valvoline red stuff or something from El Mercado de Wal for the ML, arrived a few minutes ago, supposed to have been Saturday. I guess if I need to get at the conductor plate I’m good to go. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 1, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > If Valvoline says Maxlife is suitable for 236.10, 236.12, and 236.14, I might > stick it in a 722.6 if I'm out of Shell 134. > > If Castrol says their 'universal CVT' substitutes for NS-2, NS-1 and NS-3 > plus two dozen others, I'd be insane to take their word for it. If NS-3 was > safe to use in her car, Nissan wouldn't still be selling NS-2. (like Dexron > III and Dexron VI, you can't buy III at the Chevy dealer any more because VI > is backwards compatible) > > CVT lube is rather exacting stuff, and if your belt slips on the pulleys just > once you've ruined the transmission. > > Mitch. > >> On July 1, 2019 at 2:36 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> Looked it up, it is called NS-2 for this model. There are various >> aftermarket (and maybe some OEM suppliers) available. >> >> There is a great forum for these cars, took a look at it and there was >> recent post about changing the fluid in this exact vehicle. They also >> have the full TSMs posted to download so I got the tranny manual. >> >> --FT >> >> On 7/1/19 2:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 1, 2019 at 12:42 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: CVT I have no experience with (mine have been manuals) but I do know that they require a specific fluid that is different from standard ATF, so be sure the shop knows what they are doing. >>> And Nissan has multiple generations of CVT fluid, not compatible with each >>> other. >>> Best to take it to the dealer or use Nissan fluid from a dealer (several >>> dealers sell the stuff through Amazon). >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT so my friend bought a car yesterday
I believe this is the OEM stuff for NS-2: https://www.amazon.com/Idemitsu-30040091-95300C020-Transmission-Fluid-Nissan-5/dp/B07M9485N5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT so my friend bought a car yesterday
If Valvoline says Maxlife is suitable for 236.10, 236.12, and 236.14, I might stick it in a 722.6 if I'm out of Shell 134. If Castrol says their 'universal CVT' substitutes for NS-2, NS-1 and NS-3 plus two dozen others, I'd be insane to take their word for it. If NS-3 was safe to use in her car, Nissan wouldn't still be selling NS-2. (like Dexron III and Dexron VI, you can't buy III at the Chevy dealer any more because VI is backwards compatible) CVT lube is rather exacting stuff, and if your belt slips on the pulleys just once you've ruined the transmission. Mitch. > On July 1, 2019 at 2:36 PM Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Looked it up, it is called NS-2 for this model. There are various > aftermarket (and maybe some OEM suppliers) available. > > There is a great forum for these cars, took a look at it and there was > recent post about changing the fluid in this exact vehicle. They also > have the full TSMs posted to download so I got the tranny manual. > > --FT > > On 7/1/19 2:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > >> On July 1, 2019 at 12:42 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> CVT I have no experience with (mine have been manuals) but I do know > >> that they require a specific fluid that is different from standard ATF, > >> so be sure the shop knows what they are doing. > > And Nissan has multiple generations of CVT fluid, not compatible with each > > other. > > Best to take it to the dealer or use Nissan fluid from a dealer (several > > dealers sell the stuff through Amazon). > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT so my friend bought a car yesterday
Looked it up, it is called NS-2 for this model. There are various aftermarket (and maybe some OEM suppliers) available. There is a great forum for these cars, took a look at it and there was recent post about changing the fluid in this exact vehicle. They also have the full TSMs posted to download so I got the tranny manual. --FT On 7/1/19 2:31 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 1, 2019 at 12:42 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: CVT I have no experience with (mine have been manuals) but I do know that they require a specific fluid that is different from standard ATF, so be sure the shop knows what they are doing. And Nissan has multiple generations of CVT fluid, not compatible with each other. Best to take it to the dealer or use Nissan fluid from a dealer (several dealers sell the stuff through Amazon). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT so my friend bought a car yesterday
> On July 1, 2019 at 12:42 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > > CVT I have no experience with (mine have been manuals) but I do know > that they require a specific fluid that is different from standard ATF, > so be sure the shop knows what they are doing. And Nissan has multiple generations of CVT fluid, not compatible with each other. Best to take it to the dealer or use Nissan fluid from a dealer (several dealers sell the stuff through Amazon). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT so my friend bought a car yesterday
CVT I have no experience with (mine have been manuals) but I do know that they require a specific fluid that is different from standard ATF, so be sure the shop knows what they are doing. Allan Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: > She noticed a shudder in the engine/tranny when slowing down and coming > to a stop. I looked up this issue on the googs, it seems to be > something common with the CVT trannies, some think it was a damaged > transmission. Nissan seems to say it is "normal" whatever that means, > and did some reprogramming of the idle speed or something in some > cases. I kinda think it might be some aspect of the torque converter > locking or unlocking, if indeed it has that arrangement, or something as > to how the CVT responds to low speed or stopped. I don't think it is a > big concern, at least I hope not, but she was going to take it to a shop > for a general inspection and oil change as it is now due, might be time > to change tranny fluid too. I told her I/we could change belts and > hoses soon to give her some peace of mind, not a huge effort and cheap > insurance. > > Was in Jacksonville FL so southern car, body nice and clean. > Surprisingly good shape for 11yo. Sounds fairly solid, more so than the > smaller cars. > > --R > > On 7/1/19 11:02 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> In my experience (2000-era cars), Nissans are reliable and mostly >> trouble-free, if a bit "tinny" in construction. Watch out for rust if >> you are in an area where salt is used. Keep an eye on oil levels, they >> don't have a lot of excess in the sump. My Frontier V6 takes less than 4 >> quarts for a change w/filter. >> >> Allan >> >> >> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: >> >>> I had taken her around to look at these little s*boxes, Versas and Foci >>> and whatnot. We were at this lot looking at a Versa, and the guy also >>> had a Subaru Forester for not a lot more money, it was really nice. She >>> drove it and of course compared to the little s*boxes she fell in love >>> with it. It was a bit higher than what she wanted to spend so we left >>> it as we would come back. Yesterday morning we went to look at another >>> Forester or two at this guy's lot who sells only Subarus. He had a >>> couple but they were in same price range as the one we had looked at >>> Friday but not as nice and he wouldn't haggle as he was moving those >>> things right out. >>> >>> She called the other guy, we were going back to get the one we saw on >>> Friday, but someone had just come to buy it. Bah. So she starts >>> looking on her phone, finds one in Savannah in the same price range, >>> looks OK in the pics. So we head to Savannah, about 2hr away. (Benz >>> content: I drove the $500E300, it never missed a beat, but the AC is >>> still wonky and sometimes works great then decides not to. I think >>> there might be some sensor on the compressor speed or something as a >>> change in speed or rpm seems to kick the cooling off, will have to look >>> into that again) >>> >>> We get to the lot, the guy was gonna meet us but his wife had some >>> crisis so he took off. Vehicle was not as nice and similar price, and >>> this kinda orange color which she didn't like. So she looks again and >>> finds another one listed about a mile away at another little lot. So we >>> go there, the car was a lot cheaper but had lots more miles, was OK >>> though but the miles put her off. We looked around, they had this >>> Nissan Rogue in decent condition, 150k miles, $5200 which was less than >>> the Subie. So we drove that, it was pretty nice, she decided she liked >>> it, so we bought it. I got the guy to knock off $200, we were out of >>> there. So she got a vehicle, she likes it, seems decent, will need >>> tires which she is getting this week. But saved her about $2k over the >>> other ones we were looking at so that made her feel pretty good. Some >>> money for tires and whatever other things it might need in the near >>> term, and if anything goes bad. >>> >>> I knew nothing about these vehicles, but seems OK, AWD, is the higher >>> end model with some extra options, was very clean, carfax showed it had >>> been dealer maintained most always. This guy bought his cars from >>> dealers as trade-ins, never at auction, this one came from where it had >>> been serviced, the owner had traded it in on a new one. So that is a >>> bit comforting, but who knows... >>> >>> Score one for FT! Rewards likely coming my way nudgenudgewinkwink... >>> >>> -- >>> --FT >>> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT so my friend bought a car yesterday
She noticed a shudder in the engine/tranny when slowing down and coming to a stop. I looked up this issue on the googs, it seems to be something common with the CVT trannies, some think it was a damaged transmission. Nissan seems to say it is "normal" whatever that means, and did some reprogramming of the idle speed or something in some cases. I kinda think it might be some aspect of the torque converter locking or unlocking, if indeed it has that arrangement, or something as to how the CVT responds to low speed or stopped. I don't think it is a big concern, at least I hope not, but she was going to take it to a shop for a general inspection and oil change as it is now due, might be time to change tranny fluid too. I told her I/we could change belts and hoses soon to give her some peace of mind, not a huge effort and cheap insurance. Was in Jacksonville FL so southern car, body nice and clean. Surprisingly good shape for 11yo. Sounds fairly solid, more so than the smaller cars. --R On 7/1/19 11:02 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: In my experience (2000-era cars), Nissans are reliable and mostly trouble-free, if a bit "tinny" in construction. Watch out for rust if you are in an area where salt is used. Keep an eye on oil levels, they don't have a lot of excess in the sump. My Frontier V6 takes less than 4 quarts for a change w/filter. Allan Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: I had taken her around to look at these little s*boxes, Versas and Foci and whatnot. We were at this lot looking at a Versa, and the guy also had a Subaru Forester for not a lot more money, it was really nice. She drove it and of course compared to the little s*boxes she fell in love with it. It was a bit higher than what she wanted to spend so we left it as we would come back. Yesterday morning we went to look at another Forester or two at this guy's lot who sells only Subarus. He had a couple but they were in same price range as the one we had looked at Friday but not as nice and he wouldn't haggle as he was moving those things right out. She called the other guy, we were going back to get the one we saw on Friday, but someone had just come to buy it. Bah. So she starts looking on her phone, finds one in Savannah in the same price range, looks OK in the pics. So we head to Savannah, about 2hr away. (Benz content: I drove the $500E300, it never missed a beat, but the AC is still wonky and sometimes works great then decides not to. I think there might be some sensor on the compressor speed or something as a change in speed or rpm seems to kick the cooling off, will have to look into that again) We get to the lot, the guy was gonna meet us but his wife had some crisis so he took off. Vehicle was not as nice and similar price, and this kinda orange color which she didn't like. So she looks again and finds another one listed about a mile away at another little lot. So we go there, the car was a lot cheaper but had lots more miles, was OK though but the miles put her off. We looked around, they had this Nissan Rogue in decent condition, 150k miles, $5200 which was less than the Subie. So we drove that, it was pretty nice, she decided she liked it, so we bought it. I got the guy to knock off $200, we were out of there. So she got a vehicle, she likes it, seems decent, will need tires which she is getting this week. But saved her about $2k over the other ones we were looking at so that made her feel pretty good. Some money for tires and whatever other things it might need in the near term, and if anything goes bad. I knew nothing about these vehicles, but seems OK, AWD, is the higher end model with some extra options, was very clean, carfax showed it had been dealer maintained most always. This guy bought his cars from dealers as trade-ins, never at auction, this one came from where it had been serviced, the owner had traded it in on a new one. So that is a bit comforting, but who knows... Score one for FT! Rewards likely coming my way nudgenudgewinkwink... -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
> Mitch wrote: > > I'm confused. > The energy density of the batteries is too low for us to have > electric airliners, so instead we'll make partially electric > airliners? Logic. You are using logic. What you are supposed to do is say, "Oooh! Electric is good. The planet will thank you!" but do not - I repeat - DO NOT start thinking!!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
"Well said" Just happens, I worked for PH, the company that made the stage seals that failed on that public disaster... I recall very well the collective engineering sphincter pucker that went company wide, after the disaster. I worked for another division, but the spill over went company wide, trying to find a proper scape goat for bad decisions. On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:47 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > As Richard Feynman said after the Challenger shuttle accident: "For a > successful technology, reality must take precedence over public > relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." > > > G Mann via Mercedes writes: > > > Logic impaired engineering, IMHO The hard rule in aviation, the > > one that permits an airplane to fly, is "Weight is your enemy" > > always... if you can leave an ounce on the ground, you fly higher and > > longer... > > > > A charged battery weighs the same as a discharged battery, thus, when > > you have no more electrons to run your electric motor to drive the > > props which supply energy to move the airplane through the air, > > which generates lift you get to drop like a lead brick, out of the > > sky... or put the nose down to gain lift and lose altitude, just prior > > to impact the the ground. > > > > OTOH, your Jet A fuel tanks, when empty, weigh less that when > > full and you don't have to dive so steeply to generate lift, which > > "could" keep you flying long enough to make a safe > > landing somewhere... maybe. > > > > Of course, it's not all that simple, nor do I intend to imply it > > is... but the principles of physics are. How those principles are > > applied keep engineers employed by those with money to spend. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel finny
Haul... On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 11:49 AM Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Begging the question, what can you hall with this beast? > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 11:16 AM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > >> That looks more like quilting to me than tufting, BUT, it has a trailer >> hitch!!! >> >> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:52 AM G Mann via Mercedes > > >> wrote: >> >> > "Bordello Red" with 8 track tunes... so you can be Disco. >> > >> > Martha can't fix that >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:16 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Getuftet. Proper tufting (as produced by the many, many >> > Hispanically-owned >> > > upholstery shops near my home) is less checkerboardy, a bit more >> > creative. >> > > I’ve never seen anything like that before. >> > > >> > > Bob R >> > > >> > > Sent from my iPhone >> > > >> > > > On Jul 1, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Was there such an upholstery option? What's German for "tufted"?? >> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < >> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > > > >> > > >> Love the 8 track in the dash. At least it appears to be an 8 track >> > > player. >> > > >> Goes right along with that funky upholstery. >> > > >> >> > > >> -D >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Mercedes Benze 190DC diesel car 190dc >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/pts/d/edwardsville-mercedes-benze-190dc/6923999646.html >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> Sent from my iPhone >> > > >>> >> > > >>> ___ >> > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > >>> >> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > > >>> >> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> ___ >> > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > >> >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > > >> >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > ___ >> > > > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > > >> > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > > > >> > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > >> > > >> > > ___ >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > >> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > > >> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >> > > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> >> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few >> who >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence >> for themselves." >> >> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel finny
Begging the question, what can you hall with this beast? On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 11:16 AM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > That looks more like quilting to me than tufting, BUT, it has a trailer > hitch!!! > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:52 AM G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > "Bordello Red" with 8 track tunes... so you can be Disco. > > > > Martha can't fix that > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:16 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > Getuftet. Proper tufting (as produced by the many, many > > Hispanically-owned > > > upholstery shops near my home) is less checkerboardy, a bit more > > creative. > > > I’ve never seen anything like that before. > > > > > > Bob R > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > On Jul 1, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Was there such an upholstery option? What's German for "tufted"?? > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Love the 8 track in the dash. At least it appears to be an 8 track > > > player. > > > >> Goes right along with that funky upholstery. > > > >> > > > >> -D > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Mercedes Benze 190DC diesel car 190dc > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > https://stlouis.craigslist.org/pts/d/edwardsville-mercedes-benze-190dc/6923999646.html > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Sent from my iPhone > > > >>> > > > >>> ___ > > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >>> > > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >>> > > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ___ > > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > > >> > > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > >> > > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
As Richard Feynman said after the Challenger shuttle accident: "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." G Mann via Mercedes writes: > Logic impaired engineering, IMHO The hard rule in aviation, the > one that permits an airplane to fly, is "Weight is your enemy" > always... if you can leave an ounce on the ground, you fly higher and > longer... > > A charged battery weighs the same as a discharged battery, thus, when > you have no more electrons to run your electric motor to drive the > props which supply energy to move the airplane through the air, > which generates lift you get to drop like a lead brick, out of the > sky... or put the nose down to gain lift and lose altitude, just prior > to impact the the ground. > > OTOH, your Jet A fuel tanks, when empty, weigh less that when > full and you don't have to dive so steeply to generate lift, which > "could" keep you flying long enough to make a safe > landing somewhere... maybe. > > Of course, it's not all that simple, nor do I intend to imply it > is... but the principles of physics are. How those principles are > applied keep engineers employed by those with money to spend. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
Logic impaired engineering, IMHO The hard rule in aviation, the one that permits an airplane to fly, is "Weight is your enemy" always... if you can leave an ounce on the ground, you fly higher and longer... A charged battery weighs the same as a discharged battery, thus, when you have no more electrons to run your electric motor to drive the props which supply energy to move the airplane through the air, which generates lift you get to drop like a lead brick, out of the sky... or put the nose down to gain lift and lose altitude, just prior to impact the the ground. OTOH, your Jet A fuel tanks, when empty, weigh less that when full and you don't have to dive so steeply to generate lift, which "could" keep you flying long enough to make a safe landing somewhere... maybe. Of course, it's not all that simple, nor do I intend to imply it is... but the principles of physics are. How those principles are applied keep engineers employed by those with money to spend. On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:12 AM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Yes, there is a dearth of details --- > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:16 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > I'm confused. > > The energy density of the batteries is too low for us to have electric > > airliners, so instead we'll make partially electric airliners? > > > > If the energy density of the electric power system is too low after you > > jetison the jet engines, how does it get better when you retain the jet > > engines? > > > > The only way I can see it being useful is if you can use regeneration to > > recharge the batteries while descending, or maybe if you can use jet > > engines optimized for efficient high altitude cruising and augment them > > with battery power for takeoff and climbing. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel finny
That looks more like quilting to me than tufting, BUT, it has a trailer hitch!!! On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 9:52 AM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > "Bordello Red" with 8 track tunes... so you can be Disco. > > Martha can't fix that > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:16 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Getuftet. Proper tufting (as produced by the many, many > Hispanically-owned > > upholstery shops near my home) is less checkerboardy, a bit more > creative. > > I’ve never seen anything like that before. > > > > Bob R > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jul 1, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Was there such an upholstery option? What's German for "tufted"?? > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Love the 8 track in the dash. At least it appears to be an 8 track > > player. > > >> Goes right along with that funky upholstery. > > >> > > >> -D > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Mercedes Benze 190DC diesel car 190dc > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > https://stlouis.craigslist.org/pts/d/edwardsville-mercedes-benze-190dc/6923999646.html > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Sent from my iPhone > > >>> > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
Yes, there is a dearth of details --- On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:16 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I'm confused. > The energy density of the batteries is too low for us to have electric > airliners, so instead we'll make partially electric airliners? > > If the energy density of the electric power system is too low after you > jetison the jet engines, how does it get better when you retain the jet > engines? > > The only way I can see it being useful is if you can use regeneration to > recharge the batteries while descending, or maybe if you can use jet > engines optimized for efficient high altitude cruising and augment them > with battery power for takeoff and climbing. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT so my friend bought a car yesterday
In my experience (2000-era cars), Nissans are reliable and mostly trouble-free, if a bit "tinny" in construction. Watch out for rust if you are in an area where salt is used. Keep an eye on oil levels, they don't have a lot of excess in the sump. My Frontier V6 takes less than 4 quarts for a change w/filter. Allan Floyd Thursby via Mercedes writes: > I had taken her around to look at these little s*boxes, Versas and Foci > and whatnot. We were at this lot looking at a Versa, and the guy also > had a Subaru Forester for not a lot more money, it was really nice. She > drove it and of course compared to the little s*boxes she fell in love > with it. It was a bit higher than what she wanted to spend so we left > it as we would come back. Yesterday morning we went to look at another > Forester or two at this guy's lot who sells only Subarus. He had a > couple but they were in same price range as the one we had looked at > Friday but not as nice and he wouldn't haggle as he was moving those > things right out. > > She called the other guy, we were going back to get the one we saw on > Friday, but someone had just come to buy it. Bah. So she starts > looking on her phone, finds one in Savannah in the same price range, > looks OK in the pics. So we head to Savannah, about 2hr away. (Benz > content: I drove the $500E300, it never missed a beat, but the AC is > still wonky and sometimes works great then decides not to. I think > there might be some sensor on the compressor speed or something as a > change in speed or rpm seems to kick the cooling off, will have to look > into that again) > > We get to the lot, the guy was gonna meet us but his wife had some > crisis so he took off. Vehicle was not as nice and similar price, and > this kinda orange color which she didn't like. So she looks again and > finds another one listed about a mile away at another little lot. So we > go there, the car was a lot cheaper but had lots more miles, was OK > though but the miles put her off. We looked around, they had this > Nissan Rogue in decent condition, 150k miles, $5200 which was less than > the Subie. So we drove that, it was pretty nice, she decided she liked > it, so we bought it. I got the guy to knock off $200, we were out of > there. So she got a vehicle, she likes it, seems decent, will need > tires which she is getting this week. But saved her about $2k over the > other ones we were looking at so that made her feel pretty good. Some > money for tires and whatever other things it might need in the near > term, and if anything goes bad. > > I knew nothing about these vehicles, but seems OK, AWD, is the higher > end model with some extra options, was very clean, carfax showed it had > been dealer maintained most always. This guy bought his cars from > dealers as trade-ins, never at auction, this one came from where it had > been serviced, the owner had traded it in on a new one. So that is a > bit comforting, but who knows... > > Score one for FT! Rewards likely coming my way nudgenudgewinkwink... > > -- > --FT > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel finny
"Bordello Red" with 8 track tunes... so you can be Disco. Martha can't fix that On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 7:16 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Getuftet. Proper tufting (as produced by the many, many Hispanically-owned > upholstery shops near my home) is less checkerboardy, a bit more creative. > I’ve never seen anything like that before. > > Bob R > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 1, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Was there such an upholstery option? What's German for "tufted"?? > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Love the 8 track in the dash. At least it appears to be an 8 track > player. > >> Goes right along with that funky upholstery. > >> > >> -D > >> > >> > >>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Mercedes Benze 190DC diesel car 190dc > >>> > >>> > >> > https://stlouis.craigslist.org/pts/d/edwardsville-mercedes-benze-190dc/6923999646.html > >>> > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Evapectomy
Well I believe I may still have a leak somewhere. Prime suspect is the shaft seal on this compressor (just did the shaft seal / complete reseal on the compressor in the '95 car). I charged the system with 120 psi of CO2 on Saturday night, by Sunday morning that had dropped to about 25 psi. I put in a test charge of refrigerant, and sporadically my sniffer detected a leak at the front of the compressor. I've got plenty of the propane / butane blend on hand, so I decided to press ahead and find out for sure. Swapped in new receiver / dryer, pulled a vacuum for 30 minutes then let that sit for 30 minutes, it lost about half a psi, dropping from 29.5 to 29. Another sign of a leak. Put in the lost oil (60 ml)and hydrocarbon blend, and checked again for leaks after letting it run for a bit, but only got one hit of sniffer alarm at the front of the compressor, with repeated testing on a cycle at all the various points around the system over about 30 minutes. I'm thinking the shaft seal is the culprit, so another compressor re-seal is probably in my future. Last night during the test drive, the lowest observed vent temperature was 48 deg F. This a.m. on the drive to work I saw 50 deg F. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Mexican import B180?
I saw a couple of these in Houston but never anywhere else https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2913349465374251/ -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel finny
Getuftet. Proper tufting (as produced by the many, many Hispanically-owned upholstery shops near my home) is less checkerboardy, a bit more creative. I’ve never seen anything like that before. Bob R Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Was there such an upholstery option? What's German for "tufted"?? > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Love the 8 track in the dash. At least it appears to be an 8 track player. >> Goes right along with that funky upholstery. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Mercedes Benze 190DC diesel car 190dc >>> >>> >> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/pts/d/edwardsville-mercedes-benze-190dc/6923999646.html >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Crack before breakfast
https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-mercedes-benz-cl500-amg/6924213099.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this
Every time I see one of these abominations I want to heave. On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:05 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That’s the windshield cleaning feature with the stack. Roll coal and > coolant. > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jul 1, 2019, at 8:00 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > But it blows coolant out of the pipe sticking out of the hood. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jun 30, 2019, at 11:15 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> That one is pretty rough. > >> > >> Rick > >> > >> > >> > >> Original Message > >> > >> > >> > >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/340627506861770/ > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel finny
Was there such an upholstery option? What's German for "tufted"?? On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:02 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Love the 8 track in the dash. At least it appears to be an 8 track player. > Goes right along with that funky upholstery. > > -D > > > > On Jun 30, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Mercedes Benze 190DC diesel car 190dc > > > > > https://stlouis.craigslist.org/pts/d/edwardsville-mercedes-benze-190dc/6923999646.html > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
I'm confused. The energy density of the batteries is too low for us to have electric airliners, so instead we'll make partially electric airliners? If the energy density of the electric power system is too low after you jetison the jet engines, how does it get better when you retain the jet engines? The only way I can see it being useful is if you can use regeneration to recharge the batteries while descending, or maybe if you can use jet engines optimized for efficient high altitude cruising and augment them with battery power for takeoff and climbing. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Electric airplanes
No diesel content. Now arriving: Electric airplanesPublished: Friday, June 28, 2019[image: Faradair hybrid airplane. Photo credit: Faradair/Cover images/Newscom] Faradair's hybrid airplane prototype. Faradair/Cover images/Newscom Startup plane manufacturers are edging their way into the aviation market by way of short-haul electric aircraft that could inspire technology for all-electric commercial air travel in the not-too-distant future. Eviation Aircraft is one of them; the Israeli startup announced last week that Alice, its first all-electric plane, will take flight in 2022. Alice planes will carry nine passengers up to 650 miles and currently sport a hefty $4 million price tag. "It's exciting for us that these big manufacturers and startups [are] looking at this possibility," said Chris Goater, assistant communications director at the International Air Transport Association. "We believe it is feasible for short-haul electric jets to be coming to the market by the mid '20s [or] '30s." A handful of other manufacturers join Eviation in a push to move the aviation industry away from jet fuel. The Ampaire 337 is a six-passenger hybrid aircraft, which completed a landmark test flight earlier this month in Camarillo, Calif. The company plans to fly regional commercial routes in Hawaii and is also working with Puerto Rico-based airline Vieques Air Link. JetSuite, a luxury travel agency, announced in October 2018 it will buy 100 ZA10 12-passenger planes from Washington startup Zunum Aero. Another hybrid aircraft, the ZA10 cuts emissions by 80% compared with conventional jet fuel and is slated to begin test flights in 2020, according to the company. And Faradair, a U.K.-based hybrid aircraft manufacturer, anticipates its 18-passenger plane will first take flight in 2022. But Eviation's Alice plane, which premiered last week at the Paris Air Show, stands out, observers say. For one thing, its all-electric engine sets it apart from hybrid-producing competitors. And its nine-passenger capacity and purchase by Cape Air make it a landmark model in aviation electrification. "The demand is there and is growing, so we would expect other (larger) plane classes to move to electrify their fleets, just as what's happened in ground transportation," Eviation spokeswoman Michelle Spita wrote in an email to E News. "It just makes economic sense." 'Something's gotta give' Commercial aviation currently makes up 2% of global carbon dioxide emissions and accounts for 12% of all CO2 emissions from the transportation sector, according to the International Council on Clean Transportation. Such statistics spurred the industry to aim to cut net emissions in half by 2050, according to IATA. Electrification is a bold step, as the aviation industry has historically relied on biofuels and carbon offsets to improve its environmental record, said Dan Rutherford, director of the aviation program at ICCT. "The cracks in the foundation of that are starting to show," Rutherford said, adding that manufacturers are now considering whether these methods are reducing CO2 as much as they should be. Demand for air travel, meanwhile, is still growing, Goater said, which makes cutting the industry's carbon emissions more difficult. Some developing economies, like in Latin America and East Asia, are now at a point where residents can afford to "fly, explore and do business in ways that people in the West do," he said. "Growth in Europe and North American markets will be more subdued because they're more mature markets," Goater said. "But there will be continued growth." ICCT estimates that at current rates, the number of commercial flights — and the emissions from those flights — will triple by 2050. "Something's gotta give" if the aviation industry wants to continue reducing its carbon footprint, Rutherford said. While all-electric planes like Alice are innovative and promising in the long run, Goater and Rutherford emphasized the industry still lacks the technology needed to power commercial jets by battery alone — Rutherford said the weight of batteries that could power large aircraft would be too burdensome. "Hybrid electric aircrafts are a way to get around the battery weight problem," he added. But partnerships between smaller and larger manufacturers do have the potential to propel electric innovation — and production — forward, Rutherford said. In the meantime, Goater said, the industry will continue to leverage hybrid models, aerodynamic design, biofuels and offsets to minimize its carbon footprint. "These programs that are coming forward are exiting, fantastic," Goater said. "But we're not relying on those." ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this
That’s the windshield cleaning feature with the stack. Roll coal and coolant. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 1, 2019, at 8:00 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > But it blows coolant out of the pipe sticking out of the hood. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 30, 2019, at 11:15 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> That one is pretty rough. >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> Original Message >> >> >> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/340627506861770/ >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs this
But it blows coolant out of the pipe sticking out of the hood. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 30, 2019, at 11:15 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > That one is pretty rough. > > Rick > > > > Original Message > > > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/340627506861770/ > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel finny
Love the 8 track in the dash. At least it appears to be an 8 track player. Goes right along with that funky upholstery. -D > On Jun 30, 2019, at 10:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Mercedes Benze 190DC diesel car 190dc > > https://stlouis.craigslist.org/pts/d/edwardsville-mercedes-benze-190dc/6923999646.html > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
