[MBZ] This might actually be a decent car at a decent price

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/427266168153459/


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Re: [MBZ] Does somebody need an A B Light?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

yes



Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
December 22, 2019 at 10:04 PM
You have a new one?

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Re: [MBZ] Does somebody need an A B Light?

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You have a new one?

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> On Dec 22, 2019, at 9:59 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a new one I'd sell for $200.   Kleb's here on fleabay is $225.
> 
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> December 22, 2019 at 9:50 PM
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-617589082100-Positionsgeber-diesel-injection-pump-timing-light-tester/372886834662?epid=1481791433=item56d1c98de6:g:hzMAAOSwIM5d~9ZU
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Re: [MBZ] Does somebody need an A B Light?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I have a new one I'd sell for $200.   Kleb's here on fleabay is $225.


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
December 22, 2019 at 9:50 PM
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[MBZ] Dan's next car

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Here Tis:    6 door W124

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Mercedes-Benz-w124-250-D-6-door-lwb-Original-Pullman-limousine/254275428417?hash=item3b33ff2041:g:r5oAAOSwnyNdEenw

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[MBZ] Does somebody need an A B Light?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Gasser fuel injection cleaner

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

the only one I'd use is techron, but if you follow Mitch's advice, I 
don't think you'd need any.   Running e10 to e85 will keep things clean.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
December 22, 2019 at 9:16 PM
Continuous use of Top Tier detergent gasoline, or occasional use of 
Shell V+Power.
V+ has twice the detergency of regular Shell, which meets top tier 
standards.

So V+ has about 8x the federal minimums.
The federal minimums caused a lot of problems in the 1990s when they 
were implemented, because a lot of brands lowered their detergent 
levels to match the new government standard.

That prompted BMW, Honda and MBZ to get together and invent Top Tier.
https://www.toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/



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Re: [MBZ] Gasser fuel injection cleaner

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Continuous use of Top Tier detergent gasoline, or occasional use of Shell 
V+Power. 
V+ has twice the detergency of regular Shell, which meets top tier standards. 
So V+ has about 8x the federal minimums. 
The federal minimums caused a lot of problems in the 1990s when they were 
implemented, because a lot of brands lowered their detergent levels to match 
the new government standard. 
That prompted BMW, Honda and MBZ to get together and invent Top Tier. 
https://www.toptiergas.com/licensed-brands/

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[MBZ] Gasser fuel injection cleaner

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have never run any sort of additive in diesels unless there was a need 
for gel prevention or something along those lines.  With gassers such as 
the M112, is there every a need to run some sort of cleaner thru them 
periodically?  If so, what cleaner and how often?



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Re: [MBZ] OT Chicken Attack

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The first time was when Hollywood commissioned Spiderbait to do a movie theme 
in 1947, or 2007, or something like that. ;-)

In all seriousness, it's one of the few tunes that usually sets my pulse 
racing, 70 years later. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsgEdYjoqUI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAKN_zYAwV4

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Re: [MBZ] OT Chicken Attack

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I prefer the Spike Jones version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9mT-ibaAQo
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Re: [MBZ] OT Chicken Attack

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Is it Burl Ives?   Red Sovine and Marty Robbins were my first 
thoughts.    I love Giddy up go and Phantom 309, and pretty much 
everything Marty ever did. Somebody in El paso said that now 
nobodyin ELPaso know who Marty Robbins is or "El Paso."


When I couldn't sleep at night as a kid, I'd dial in WSM after midnight 
and listen to the music, but the interviews were the best.


Burl Ives Christmas songs are great!

archer75--- via Mercedes wrote on 12/22/19 5:29 PM:

first singer who sang Ghost Riders in the Sky.



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Re: [MBZ] OT Chicken Attack

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I thought it was sons of the pioneers.

On Sun, Dec 22, 2019, 3:30 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'll bet no one here is old enough to remember the first singer who sang
> Ghost Riders in the Sky.
> Hint: He was a truck driver whose throat was injured in an accident. The
> injury have him a "new voice" which made him the most popular singer of the
> early post WW-2 era.
> Gerry
>
> On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 13:25:45 -0600
> Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> > One of the most thrilling live songs I ever heard was the Sons of the
> > Pioneers (on many 1950s westerns, especially the singing cowboy
> > westerns) sing Ghost Riders.
> >
> > They were in the Rodeo arena.
> >
> > > Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> > > December 22, 2019 at 10:15 AM
> > > There are multiple versions of Ghost Chickens in the Sky
> > > The one I remember:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ0M65i_D6w
> > >
> > > A chicken farmer went out on one dark and dusty day
> > > And by the coop he rested as he went along his way
> > > When all at once a rotten egg hit him in the eye
> > > It was the sight he dreaded: Ghost Chickens in the SkyTM
> > >
> > > This farmer had these chickens since he was twenty-four
> > > Working for the Colonel (pronounced "Kernel," eh?)(TM) for thirty
> > > years or more
> > > Raising all those chickens up to send them off to fry
> > > And now they want revenge: Ghost Chickens in the Sky
> > >
> > >
> > > A newer one:
> > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66vT4CMpCl4
> > >
> > > An old cowboy went out and bought a ranch in '65
> > > Spent all of his money and no cattle could he buy.
> > > So he called up Colonel Sanders and asked, "What should I do?"
> > > The Colonel said, "Buy chickens, and build the chicken coop."
> > > Now he's been a chicken rancher since he was 24
> > > Yeah, workin' for the Colonel now for 30 years or more!
> > > Ah, fixing all those chickens up and sending them to fry,
> > > now they want revenge.
> > >
> > > Ghost Chickens in the Sky!
> > > Chickens to bake, and chickens to fry.
> > > Ghost Chickens in the Sky!
> > >
> > > He was out a walkin' on his chicken ranch one day
> > > He stopped along the chicken coop as he went along his way,
> > > and all at once a rotten egg, it hit 'em in the eye.
> > > It was, a terrible sight.
> > > Ghost Chickens in the Sky!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cell Phones

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

the kids got me a used 4s when the 6s were new.   I still use it.  As 
apfel continues to downgrade the fones each year by removing ports, I am 
happy to move further toward the luddite area.   As long as Motorola 
made flip phones, I was happy, as the sound quality with the blue parrot 
headset was as good as or better than a land line.   Once Motorola sold 
the fone biz to the chicoms, I am done with motorola.   Yeah, I know 
they make all the fones, but they don't own all the companies yet.   
They've just stolen all the IP.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
December 22, 2019 at 4:42 PM
This is why I buy refurbs or used. Just “upgraded to an iPhone 6s. 
Cost me $130. There is no effing way I’m paying more than a couple 
hundred bucks for a phone.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Chicken Attack

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I'll bet no one here is old enough to remember the first singer who sang Ghost 
Riders in the Sky. 
Hint: He was a truck driver whose throat was injured in an accident. The injury 
have him a "new voice" which made him the most popular singer of the early post 
WW-2 era.
Gerry

On Sun, 22 Dec 2019 13:25:45 -0600
Curley McLain via Mercedes  wrote:

> One of the most thrilling live songs I ever heard was the Sons of the 
> Pioneers (on many 1950s westerns, especially the singing cowboy 
> westerns) sing Ghost Riders.
> 
> They were in the Rodeo arena.
> 
> > Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> > December 22, 2019 at 10:15 AM
> > There are multiple versions of Ghost Chickens in the Sky
> > The one I remember:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ0M65i_D6w
> >
> > A chicken farmer went out on one dark and dusty day
> > And by the coop he rested as he went along his way
> > When all at once a rotten egg hit him in the eye
> > It was the sight he dreaded: Ghost Chickens in the SkyTM
> >
> > This farmer had these chickens since he was twenty-four
> > Working for the Colonel (pronounced "Kernel," eh?)(TM) for thirty 
> > years or more
> > Raising all those chickens up to send them off to fry
> > And now they want revenge: Ghost Chickens in the Sky
> >
> >
> > A newer one:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66vT4CMpCl4
> >
> > An old cowboy went out and bought a ranch in '65
> > Spent all of his money and no cattle could he buy.
> > So he called up Colonel Sanders and asked, "What should I do?"
> > The Colonel said, "Buy chickens, and build the chicken coop."
> > Now he's been a chicken rancher since he was 24
> > Yeah, workin' for the Colonel now for 30 years or more!
> > Ah, fixing all those chickens up and sending them to fry,
> > now they want revenge.
> >
> > Ghost Chickens in the Sky!
> > Chickens to bake, and chickens to fry.
> > Ghost Chickens in the Sky!
> >
> > He was out a walkin' on his chicken ranch one day
> > He stopped along the chicken coop as he went along his way,
> > and all at once a rotten egg, it hit 'em in the eye.
> > It was, a terrible sight.
> > Ghost Chickens in the Sky!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cell Phones

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is why I buy refurbs or used. Just “upgraded to an iPhone 6s. Cost me 
$130. There is no effing way I’m paying more than a couple hundred bucks for a 
phone.

-D


> On Dec 22, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> The note 5g phone the wife has to have was a $1.3k phone.  Could have bought 
> a couple of cars for that. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 22, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  I agree, I have a MotoG7 that I bought only because my MotoX3 was dying. 
>> Its a good phone with a mediocre camera but I got it for under $200 on Prime 
>> day.
>> People get really stupid where phones are concerned, I can't imagine paying 
>> $1000 for a phone...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 3:00:06 PM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> Scott writes:
>> 
>>> Can anyone explain how these high-priced handsets are better than the econo
>> models I own?
>> 
>> They aren't. 
>> Samsung models come chock full of bloatware, and iPhones tie you into
>> the Apple infrastructure. Apple may not be a bad choice IF you are already
>> a Mac head, but they are pricey. 
>> 
>> I have a Moto G5+ that is several generations old now, and still quite fast 
>> enough
>> for anything I need it for.
>> 
>>> Thanks and Merry Christmas.
>> 
>> Merry Christmas to you and yours
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cell Phones

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The note 5g phone the wife has to have was a $1.3k phone.  Could have bought a 
couple of cars for that. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  I agree, I have a MotoG7 that I bought only because my MotoX3 was dying. 
> Its a good phone with a mediocre camera but I got it for under $200 on Prime 
> day.
> People get really stupid where phones are concerned, I can't imagine paying 
> $1000 for a phone...
> -Curt
> 
>On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 3:00:06 PM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Scott writes:
> 
>> Can anyone explain how these high-priced handsets are better than the econo
> models I own?
> 
> They aren't. 
> Samsung models come chock full of bloatware, and iPhones tie you into
> the Apple infrastructure. Apple may not be a bad choice IF you are already
> a Mac head, but they are pricey. 
> 
> I have a Moto G5+ that is several generations old now, and still quite fast 
> enough
> for anything I need it for.
> 
>> Thanks and Merry Christmas.
> 
> Merry Christmas to you and yours
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Chicken Attack

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Sons of the Pioneers were among the many to record it in 1949, it was a 
massively popular song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMqKv7BOg_s

Stan Jones wrote it and this is the version that plays in my head when I think 
of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LinTHp5wpHg

I think Burl Ives was the second one to record it. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2klh2cTa_Q

Vaughn Monroe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ais2uSUwIuY

Johnny Cash did a well known version too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mynzbmrtp9I


> On December 22, 2019 at 2:25 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> One of the most thrilling live songs I ever heard was the Sons of the 
> Pioneers (on many 1950s westerns, especially the singing cowboy 
> westerns) sing Ghost Riders.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cell Phones

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Camera, storeage, processor, screen etc. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2019, at 1:05 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have little experience with smart phone handsets.  To date, I've owned a
> Moto G4 and now a G7 (both Android).  These cost about $200 new but I see
> Apple and other Android handsets selling for close to $1K.  
> 
> Can anyone explain how these high-priced handsets are better than the econo
> models I know?
> 
> Thanks and Merry Christmas.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cell Phones

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I agree, I have a MotoG7 that I bought only because my MotoX3 was dying. Its a 
good phone with a mediocre camera but I got it for under $200 on Prime day.
People get really stupid where phones are concerned, I can't imagine paying 
$1000 for a phone...
-Curt

On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 3:00:06 PM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Scott writes:

>Can anyone explain how these high-priced handsets are better than the econo
models I own?

They aren't. 
Samsung models come chock full of bloatware, and iPhones tie you into
the Apple infrastructure. Apple may not be a bad choice IF you are already
a Mac head, but they are pricey. 

I have a Moto G5+ that is several generations old now, and still quite fast 
enough
for anything I need it for.

>Thanks and Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas to you and yours

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: W124 rear subframe R pictures

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 A guy I watch on YouTube uses bar and chain oil. Way stickier than engine oil.
I got a gallon of WoolWax but winter came earlier than I expected and I had no 
time to spray it on...
-Curt

On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 1:26:07 PM EST, tyee165 via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Messy but used engine oil is probably as good as any other fluid. I have my 
truck and her car sprayed with the Crown oil every fall. It smells a bit better 
than used oil.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 Date: 2019-12-22  10:03 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Rick Knoble 
 Subject: [MBZ] ***SPAM***  Re:  W124 rear subframe R 
pictures D oil when it burns off.Curly says: >The band from Mallas to hotlanta 
is a good place to hunt for carsI sure wish you spoke English :^)I pulled up 
the snow fall maps from some government website for like the last 50 years. If 
you draw a line from Washington DC to Nashville, then to Tulsa, you'd be pretty 
safe to be purchasing a car with minimal winter corrosion damage. Obviously the 
Southwest desert or Pacific Northwest is optimal, but shipping is going to be 
pricey. As far as corrosion prevention, Fluid Film, Wool Wax, and New Hampshire 
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[MBZ] Goodbye Polei?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I am getting down to the wire with depleting the hoard.  About the only stuff 
left for me to deal with on my own are the two cars and some old Apple/Mac 
computer promotional items.  I have been spamming the few brave folks who over 
the summer removed the Benz items, but nobody has spare cash at this time of 
year.  I really do not want the poor SDL to spend another winter rotting in the 
rain, not getting taken on the road.

The other day a fellow who snagged a bunch of my Mac stuff and the Newton 
message pad came by to pick up the Newton manual I found in a camcorder bag.  I 
figured I could do no damage by mentioning the faux police car, and he said it 
deserved some thought.  I outlined the extreme project nature of the car, but 
that it did all the things a working car does, even has working Becker radio, 
AC and heat, brakes rebuilt with fresh ABS pump, and transmission shifts well 
enough to chirp the tires.   For a basic A to B car, it would be fine, while a 
poorer person saved for a real car.  This guy works for Boeing.  Maybe he sees 
some slack time in his future (737 max?) and just asked to set up a test drive 
for monday morning.  Looks like I am making a K’leb price deal

maybe.  For the price, getting a bunch of spare parts to make upgrades or 
repairs along with a driver seems like a deal to me.  To get rid of it.

clay 


1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1982 SD - Allen
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers









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Re: [MBZ] 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 500 4MATIC Wagon 4D

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Gets 14/18 mpg.  That sucks.

On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 1:18 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I wonder why it has been sitting.  Looks fairly nice, maybe a bit moldy,
> but not for $3500.  Would have to put the computer on it and see what is
> going on with it.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/496043154602120/
>
> 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 500 4MATIC Wagon 4D
> Hilton Head Island, SC· 20 hours ago
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/496043154602120/?ref=product_details>·
>
>
> $3,500
>
>   * About This Vehicle
>   *
>
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Driven 220,000 miles
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Automatic transmission
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Exterior color: Grey · Interior color: Black
>   *
>   o
>
>   o 14.0 MPG city · 18.0 MPG highway · 16.0 MPG combined
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Very good condition
> 
>
>   * Typical Features
>   *
>
>   *
> Moon Roof
>   *
> Navigation
>   *
> Alloy Wheels
>   *
> 4MATIC AWD
>   *
>
> Seller's Description
>
> Recently had back brakes and rotors replace. The car has been sitting,
> not being used.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cell Phones

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Androids tie you into gulag and gummit spyware.   Ifone ties you into 
apfel somewhat, but they so far have done a better job of protecting 
personal data.  Apfel gives you and option to send data or not.    
Gummit pretty much gets anything they want, legal or not.  Regardless of 
platform.


Buy a cheep flipfone and get a minutes card with cash from Dollar 
Genral.   That way you can be anonymous to some extent.  (at least as 
long as nobody calls you.)


Merry Christmas!


Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
December 22, 2019 at 1:59 PM
Scott writes:


Can anyone explain how these high-priced handsets are better than the econo

models I own?

They aren't.
Samsung models come chock full of bloatware, and iPhones tie you into
the Apple infrastructure. Apple may not be a bad choice IF you are already
a Mac head, but they are pricey.

I have a Moto G5+ that is several generations old now, and still quite fast 
enough
for anything I need it for.


Thanks and Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas to you and yours

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cell Phones

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Scott writes:

>Can anyone explain how these high-priced handsets are better than the econo
models I own?

They aren't. 
Samsung models come chock full of bloatware, and iPhones tie you into
the Apple infrastructure. Apple may not be a bad choice IF you are already
a Mac head, but they are pricey. 

I have a Moto G5+ that is several generations old now, and still quite fast 
enough
for anything I need it for.

>Thanks and Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas to you and yours

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] For Curley now Karl

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yes.  Karl, ther are the numbers:

65  A2024201444 *PROTECTIVE PLATE*
LEFT001 
	Bei Amazon prüfen 
 
Bei eBay prüfen 


65  A2024201544 *PROTECTIVE PLATE*
RIGHT   001 
	Bei Amazon prüfen 
 
Bei eBay prüfen 






Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
December 22, 2019 at 10:21 AM
Is this what you are looking for?

Item 65?

http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_SubGroupAction.php?lang=E=BM=1=FG=15V=124128=42=045


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Rust was:Re: W124 rear subframe

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Dry side and a wet side.  The local SEA DOT will try to get trucks out to spray 
deicer on the main roads if they have a few days warning.  Mild saline solution 
of some sort that keeps mostly exposed bridge deck from icing over if temps 
drop to 26f.  Wet side tends to warm and wash away the snow and rarely gets 
that cold.

Dry side has a rain shadow on the east side of the Cascades.  Wind and cold 
seep in from over the  border of Canada.  What minimal moisture can get out of 
mountain passes will dribble on central WA.  Spokane area is in the foothills 
of the mountains making up the Idaho panhandle.  Moisture backs up and dumps.

clay


> On Dec 22, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That sucks. I thought that parts of WA are considered desert.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
>   Original Message  
> 
> 
> 
> From: jim.cathey...@gmail.com
> Sent: December 22, 2019 11:57 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: rickkno...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: W124 rear subframe R pictures
> 
> 
>> Pacific Northwest is optimal
> 
> Eastern WA now uses salt.  It was the death of the Frankenheap.
> 
> -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] OT Chicken Attack

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

One of the most thrilling live songs I ever heard was the Sons of the 
Pioneers (on many 1950s westerns, especially the singing cowboy 
westerns) sing Ghost Riders.


They were in the Rodeo arena.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
December 22, 2019 at 10:15 AM
There are multiple versions of Ghost Chickens in the Sky
The one I remember:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ0M65i_D6w

A chicken farmer went out on one dark and dusty day
And by the coop he rested as he went along his way
When all at once a rotten egg hit him in the eye
It was the sight he dreaded: Ghost Chickens in the SkyTM

This farmer had these chickens since he was twenty-four
Working for the Colonel (pronounced "Kernel," eh?)(TM) for thirty 
years or more

Raising all those chickens up to send them off to fry
And now they want revenge: Ghost Chickens in the Sky


A newer one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66vT4CMpCl4

An old cowboy went out and bought a ranch in '65
Spent all of his money and no cattle could he buy.
So he called up Colonel Sanders and asked, "What should I do?"
The Colonel said, "Buy chickens, and build the chicken coop."
Now he's been a chicken rancher since he was 24
Yeah, workin' for the Colonel now for 30 years or more!
Ah, fixing all those chickens up and sending them to fry,
now they want revenge.

Ghost Chickens in the Sky!
Chickens to bake, and chickens to fry.
Ghost Chickens in the Sky!

He was out a walkin' on his chicken ranch one day
He stopped along the chicken coop as he went along his way,
and all at once a rotten egg, it hit 'em in the eye.
It was, a terrible sight.
Ghost Chickens in the Sky!

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[MBZ] OT: Cell Phones

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I have little experience with smart phone handsets.  To date, I've owned a
Moto G4 and now a G7 (both Android).  These cost about $200 new but I see
Apple and other Android handsets selling for close to $1K.  

Can anyone explain how these high-priced handsets are better than the econo
models I know?

Thanks and Merry Christmas.

Scott

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Re: [MBZ] OT Chicken Attack

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I like it!

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 22, 2019 11:15:51 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes :

> There are multiple versions of Ghost Chickens in the Sky
> The one I remember:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ0M65i_D6w
> 
> A chicken farmer went out on one dark and dusty day
> And by the coop he rested as he went along his way
> When all at once a rotten egg hit him in the eye
> It was the sight he dreaded: Ghost Chickens in the SkyTM
> 
> This farmer had these chickens since he was twenty-four
> Working for the Colonel (pronounced "Kernel," eh?)(TM) for thirty years or 
> more
> Raising all those chickens up to send them off to fry
> And now they want revenge: Ghost Chickens in the Sky
> 
> 
> A newer one:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66vT4CMpCl4
> 
> An old cowboy went out and bought a ranch in '65
> Spent all of his money and no cattle could he buy.
> So he called up Colonel Sanders and asked, "What should I do?"
> The Colonel said, "Buy chickens, and build the chicken coop."
> Now he's been a chicken rancher since he was 24
> Yeah, workin' for the Colonel now for 30 years or more!
> Ah, fixing all those chickens up and sending them to fry,
> now they want revenge.
> 
> Ghost Chickens in the Sky!
> Chickens to bake, and chickens to fry.
> Ghost Chickens in the Sky!
> 
> He was out a walkin' on his chicken ranch one day
> He stopped along the chicken coop as he went along his way,
> and all at once a rotten egg, it hit 'em in the eye.
> It was, a terrible sight.
> Ghost Chickens in the Sky!
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: W124 rear subframe R pictures

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

Messy but used engine oil is probably as good as any other fluid. I have my 
truck and her car sprayed with the Crown oil every fall. It smells a bit better 
than used oil.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 Date: 2019-12-22  10:03 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Rick Knoble 
 Subject: [MBZ] ***SPAM***  Re:  W124 rear subframe R 
pictures D oil when it burns off.Curly says: >The band from Mallas to hotlanta 
is a good place to hunt for carsI sure wish you spoke English :^)I pulled up 
the snow fall maps from some government website for like the last 50 years. If 
you draw a line from Washington DC to Nashville, then to Tulsa, you'd be pretty 
safe to be purchasing a car with minimal winter corrosion damage. Obviously the 
Southwest desert or Pacific Northwest is optimal, but shipping is going to be 
pricey. As far as corrosion prevention, Fluid Film, Wool Wax, and New Hampshire 
Oil look like pretty good 
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Re: [MBZ] Cell phone update

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

They have a deal where I can trade it one of my old iPhones and get an 8, which 
works on all their bands and is free. Either that or I can trade in my current 
7 and get $500 off a iPhone 11. Have not decided which way to go yet. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2019, at 10:38 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, different phones are capable of different bands, so you need to compare 
> the carriers bands to your phones capabilities. That's one reason I moved to 
> this Moto G5+, it works on all the T-Mobile bands.
> 
> I also am able to surf internet while talking on phone, on T-Mobile.
> 
> I think you'll be happy, if you get a new phone.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Dec 22, 2019 10:45:22 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
> 
>> I went ahead and moved my number over to T Mobil Friday to try it out
>> before moving the other 3 lines over. On the drive back from Arkansas
>> it worked pretty good. I only ran into 1 dead zone with lasted for
>> maybe a mile. Then ran into 2 more closer to home with are also about
>> the same as we had with US Cellular. Upon further research, T Mobile
>> spent billions buying up 600mhz and have been building those out.
>> Research shows this provides better coverage especially in the rural gap
>> areas. I found a site that you can select a carrier and it will show
>> you on a map where their towers are and you can filter down to which
>> band you want etc. This showed me they had a 600mhz tower near the
>> dead zone spot I ran thru the day before. The only thing is my iphone 7
>> will not pick up on these towers.
>> 
>> Yesterday I decided to go ahead and move the wife line over and went
>> ahead and got her the new Samsung Note 10+ 5g phone. In the process
>> they had a deal going where we could add a 3rd line free and the phone
>> was free, so we went ahead and moved the 3rd line over at the same
>> time. So this phone with wife got is 1 of 2 5g phones they have
>> available and it shows 5g at the top. I will say when we tested it
>> after leaving the store in Tulsa the speed showed over 100MBs. On the
>> other hand, my phone on LTE showed about 30MBs when testing at the same
>> time. So, it seems maybe 5g is available in town. I am thinking 5G is
>> still pretty limited.
>> 
>> On the drive home, the areas where I lost signal as before, the wife did
>> not with her new phone. So picking up these new frequencies must
>> actually make a difference. I would show no service on my phone and
>> hers would pickup about 3 bars or so. Even at our house here her phone
>> still shows 5g but only tests around 20MBs. My LTE phone tests about the
>> same so I would guess even if the phone says 5G, that might not be the
>> case.
>> 
>> Also, their plans include unlimited data (although slow data) and text
>> anywhere in the world. Talk is 25 cents a minutes. It is unlimited
>> talk, text, and 5GB of LTE data in Mexico and Canada. Also, our bill it
>> going to be about $100 a month cheaper than it was with US Cellular.
>> The guy at the store also gave me some sort of employee code that I can
>> go to a website and enter it to get 20% off the total bill for life.
>> So, if my okie math is working correctly the 4 lines that would be $170
>> per month will end up being $119 per month. That is pretty darn cheap.
>> Hell I might even add a line for the 11 year old.
>> 
>> Anyway, just some data points so far for anybody considering T Mobile.
>> 
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[MBZ] Rust was:Re: W124 rear subframe

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

That sucks. I thought that parts of WA are considered desert.


Rick



  Original Message  



From: jim.cathey...@gmail.com
Sent: December 22, 2019 11:57 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: rickkno...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: W124 rear subframe R pictures


> Pacific Northwest is optimal

Eastern WA now uses salt.  It was the death of the Frankenheap.

-- Jim
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[MBZ] 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 500 4MATIC Wagon 4D

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I wonder why it has been sitting.  Looks fairly nice, maybe a bit moldy, 
but not for $3500.  Would have to put the computer on it and see what is 
going on with it.


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/496043154602120/

2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 500 4MATIC Wagon 4D
Hilton Head Island, SC· 20 hours ago 
· 


$3,500

 * About This Vehicle
 *

 *
 o

 o Driven 220,000 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: Grey · Interior color: Black
 *
 o

 o 14.0 MPG city · 18.0 MPG highway · 16.0 MPG combined
 *
 o

 o Very good condition
   

 * Typical Features
 *

 *
   Moon Roof
 *
   Navigation
 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   4MATIC AWD
 *

Seller's Description

Recently had back brakes and rotors replace. The car has been sitting, 
not being used.



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[MBZ] 2002 C23 6spd stick???

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Interesting, and cheap

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3137056779655714/

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Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well the mystery deepens.  Looking up a generic E300, instead of searching
by VIN, a different monovalve comes up, and it is forward compatible with
many later cars from 1995 up until 2011, including 210 E300 with OM606,
both turbo and non-turbo.  Looking at the 124 2.5 models, 1991 used a
different type than 1992-1993.  So perhaps there were two different
variations of heater / monovalve set up, some with a bypass and some
without, for my E300 and for other years.  Perhaps it was a
climate-specific variation, or related to some other options?
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 12:11 PM Max Dillon  wrote:

>
> Peter, I don't know how a bypass would help that. Maybe it encourages a
> continuous flow through more of the hoses, keeping them warmer?
>
> I'm recalling that Curley's 124 2.5 also has a bypass, I need to see about
> the cost of that monovalve new and if it could fit my car.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Dec 22, 2019 8:57:35 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>
> > Since diesels produce very little waste heat at idle, I would suspect
> that there is a bypass to prevent loss of cabin heat under low load -- the
> water can cool off enough on the way from the head to the core enough to
> cause erratic heat.
> >
> > These are luxury cars, people complain of the heat isn't exactly what
> they set the control wheel for.
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: W124 rear subframe R pictures

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Pacific Northwest is optimal

Eastern WA now uses salt.  It was the death of the Frankenheap.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Peter, I don't know how a bypass would help that. Maybe it encourages a 
continuous flow through more of the hoses, keeping them warmer?

I'm recalling that Curley's 124 2.5 also has a bypass, I need to see about the 
cost of that monovalve new and if it could fit my car.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 22, 2019 8:57:35 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes :

> Since diesels produce very little waste heat at idle, I would suspect that 
> there is a bypass to prevent loss of cabin heat under low load -- the water 
> can cool off enough on the way from the head to the core enough to cause 
> erratic heat.
> 
> These are luxury cars, people complain of the heat isn't exactly what they 
> set the control wheel for.
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Re: [MBZ] Cell phone update

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes, different phones are capable of different bands, so you need to compare 
the carriers bands to your phones capabilities. That's one reason I moved to 
this Moto G5+, it works on all the T-Mobile bands.

I also am able to surf internet while talking on phone, on T-Mobile.

I think you'll be happy, if you get a new phone.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 22, 2019 10:45:22 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> I went ahead and moved my number over to T Mobil Friday to try it out
> before moving the other 3 lines over. On the drive back from Arkansas
> it worked pretty good. I only ran into 1 dead zone with lasted for
> maybe a mile. Then ran into 2 more closer to home with are also about
> the same as we had with US Cellular. Upon further research, T Mobile
> spent billions buying up 600mhz and have been building those out.
> Research shows this provides better coverage especially in the rural gap
> areas. I found a site that you can select a carrier and it will show
> you on a map where their towers are and you can filter down to which
> band you want etc. This showed me they had a 600mhz tower near the
> dead zone spot I ran thru the day before. The only thing is my iphone 7
> will not pick up on these towers.
> 
> Yesterday I decided to go ahead and move the wife line over and went
> ahead and got her the new Samsung Note 10+ 5g phone. In the process
> they had a deal going where we could add a 3rd line free and the phone
> was free, so we went ahead and moved the 3rd line over at the same
> time. So this phone with wife got is 1 of 2 5g phones they have
> available and it shows 5g at the top. I will say when we tested it
> after leaving the store in Tulsa the speed showed over 100MBs. On the
> other hand, my phone on LTE showed about 30MBs when testing at the same
> time. So, it seems maybe 5g is available in town. I am thinking 5G is
> still pretty limited.
> 
> On the drive home, the areas where I lost signal as before, the wife did
> not with her new phone. So picking up these new frequencies must
> actually make a difference. I would show no service on my phone and
> hers would pickup about 3 bars or so. Even at our house here her phone
> still shows 5g but only tests around 20MBs. My LTE phone tests about the
> same so I would guess even if the phone says 5G, that might not be the
> case.
> 
> Also, their plans include unlimited data (although slow data) and text
> anywhere in the world. Talk is 25 cents a minutes. It is unlimited
> talk, text, and 5GB of LTE data in Mexico and Canada. Also, our bill it
> going to be about $100 a month cheaper than it was with US Cellular.
> The guy at the store also gave me some sort of employee code that I can
> go to a website and enter it to get 20% off the total bill for life.
> So, if my okie math is working correctly the 4 lines that would be $170
> per month will end up being $119 per month. That is pretty darn cheap.
> Hell I might even add a line for the 11 year old.
> 
> Anyway, just some data points so far for anybody considering T Mobile.
> 
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[MBZ] For Curley

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Is this what you are looking for?

Item 65?

http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_SubGroupAction.php?lang=E=BM=1=FG=15V=124128=42=045


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Chicken Attack

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

There are multiple versions of Ghost Chickens in the Sky
The one I remember:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ0M65i_D6w

A chicken farmer went out on one dark and dusty day
And by the coop he rested as he went along his way
When all at once a rotten egg hit him in the eye
It was the sight he dreaded: Ghost Chickens in the SkyTM

This farmer had these chickens since he was twenty-four
Working for the Colonel (pronounced "Kernel," eh?)(TM) for thirty years or more
Raising all those chickens up to send them off to fry
And now they want revenge: Ghost Chickens in the Sky


A newer one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66vT4CMpCl4

An old cowboy went out and bought a ranch in '65
Spent all of his money and no cattle could he buy.
So he called up Colonel Sanders and asked, "What should I do?"
The Colonel said, "Buy chickens, and build the chicken coop."
Now he's been a chicken rancher since he was 24
Yeah, workin' for the Colonel now for 30 years or more!
Ah, fixing all those chickens up and sending them to fry,
now they want revenge.

Ghost Chickens in the Sky!
Chickens to bake, and chickens to fry.
Ghost Chickens in the Sky!

He was out a walkin' on his chicken ranch one day
He stopped along the chicken coop as he went along his way,
and all at once a rotten egg, it hit 'em in the eye.
It was, a terrible sight.
Ghost Chickens in the Sky!

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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: W124 rear subframe R pictures

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Curly says:

>The band from Mallas to hotlanta is a good place to hunt for cars

I sure wish you spoke English :^)

I pulled up the snow fall maps from some government website for like the last 
50 years. 
If you draw a line from Washington DC to Nashville, then to Tulsa, you'd be 
pretty safe to be purchasing a car with minimal winter corrosion damage. 
Obviously the Southwest desert or Pacific Northwest is optimal, but shipping is 
going to be pricey. 

As far as corrosion prevention, Fluid Film, Wool Wax, and New Hampshire Oil 
look like pretty good bets.

Rick

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[MBZ] Cell phone update

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I went ahead and moved my number over to T Mobil Friday to try it out 
before moving the other 3 lines over.  On the drive back from Arkansas 
it worked pretty good.  I only ran into 1 dead zone with lasted for 
maybe a mile.  Then ran into 2 more closer to home with are also about 
the same as we had with US Cellular.  Upon further research, T Mobile 
spent billions buying up 600mhz and have been building those out.  
Research shows this provides better coverage especially in the rural gap 
areas.  I found a site that you can select a carrier and it will show 
you on a map where their towers are and you can filter down to which 
band  you want etc.  This showed me they had a 600mhz tower near the 
dead zone spot I ran thru the day before.  The only thing is my iphone 7 
will not pick up on these towers.


Yesterday I decided to go ahead and move the wife line over and went 
ahead and got her the new Samsung Note 10+ 5g phone.  In the process 
they had a deal going where we could add a 3rd line free and the phone 
was free, so we went ahead and moved the 3rd line over at the same 
time.  So this phone with wife got is 1 of 2 5g phones they have 
available and it shows 5g at the top.  I will say when we tested it 
after leaving the store in Tulsa the speed showed over 100MBs.  On the 
other hand, my phone on LTE showed about 30MBs when testing at the same 
time.  So, it seems maybe 5g is available in town.  I am thinking 5G is 
still pretty limited.


On the drive home, the areas where I lost signal as before, the wife did 
not with her new phone.  So picking up these new frequencies must 
actually make a difference.  I would show no service on my phone and 
hers would pickup about 3 bars or so. Even at our house here her phone 
still shows 5g but only tests around 20MBs. My LTE phone tests about the 
same so I would guess even if the phone says 5G, that might not be the 
case.


Also, their plans include unlimited data (although slow data) and text 
anywhere in the world.  Talk is 25 cents a minutes.  It is unlimited 
talk, text, and 5GB of LTE data in Mexico and Canada. Also, our bill it 
going to be about $100 a month cheaper than it was with US Cellular.  
The guy at the store also gave me some sort of employee code that I can 
go to a website and enter it to get 20% off the total bill for life.  
So, if my okie math is working correctly the 4 lines that would be $170 
per month will end up being $119 per month.  That is pretty darn cheap. 
Hell I might even add a line for the 11 year old.


Anyway, just some data points so far for anybody considering T Mobile.


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[MBZ] Quite Random.....350GD SWB Mercedes-Benz G-Class 1991

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

It’s a plain color and a pretty plain G-Wagon. All the hipsters won’t give it a 
second look.

Bob R

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> From: nore...@craigslist.org
> Date: December 22, 2019 at 8:24:09 AM MST
> To: azbob...@gmail.com
> Subject: 350GD SWB Mercedes-Benz G-Class 1991
> 
> 
> azbob...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
> 
> 350GD SWB Mercedes-Benz G-Class 1991
> 
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/7037421084.html
> 
> Please go to the preferences page if you don't want to receive email-a-friend 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Chicken Attack

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Might be related to the legendary chicken fairy.

Lyrics
Legendary chicken fairy big as life and twice as hairy
In our windows you'll come creepin'
Bringin' goodies while we're sleepin'
When you wish upon a bird makes no difference how absurb
The chicken fairy hears each word and all your dreams come true
Chicken fairy in the sky Mother Goose is butterfly
Do whatever's necessary legendary chicken fairy
Sing a song that's sanitary take my wish oh big canary
Legendary chicken fairy make my dreams come true.

Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMDdo5FKkzs

On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 11:47:04 -0500 (EST)
Mitch Haley via Mercedes  wrote:

> I'm having a flashback to 1970s radio serials...
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgMOOPxkYVk
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDrBH_OekU8
> 
> 
> > On December 21, 2019 at 11:32 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > The most bizarre thing you will see today
> > 
> > https://youtu.be/miomuSGoPzI
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Re: [MBZ] W124 rear subframe R pictures

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

My thought were essentially the same.  Wire wheel, paint, until I saw 
what is in 188.   I don't think anything would break or come loose.  The 
scale is just in a gusset and the metal between the hole and the 
subframe is passable. If the only other choice was to buy a new 
subframe, I'd reuse this one. But since a good subframe is available, 
for nickels on the $, I think it is best to get a better subframe.



I've probably driven rustier cars than most of you.   It is why I 
generally seek out a rustfree sample to start with.  The band from 
Mallas to hotlanta is a good place to hunt for cars.   2 of my cars were 
sold new at Autohaus Dallas.   One is quite rusty now, having been 
driven too many winters in Awa.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
December 22, 2019 at 6:53 AM
I'm thinking "Scotchbrite rust and paint remover wheel, POR-15, paint, 
done" until I get to #188.

188 would bother me if it were mine.
Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] 124 monovalve variations

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Since diesels produce very little waste heat at idle, I would suspect that 
there is a bypass to prevent loss of cabin heat under low load -- the water can 
cool off enough on the way from the head to the core enough to cause erratic 
heat.

These are luxury cars, people complain of the heat isn't exactly what they set 
the control wheel for.
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Re: [MBZ] W124 rear subframe R pictures

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I have had the front springs break on the TE, replaced them a few years back.  
It was driven on the beach at some point -- tiny sea shells in the covers on 
the links :(.

Up in Canada broken coil springs were common, along with severe body rot.

I definitely would not use that subframe if you have a better one, it's pretty 
far gone.  None mine ever got more than some surface rust.



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Re: [MBZ] W124 rear subframe R pictures

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I'm thinking "Scotchbrite rust and paint remover wheel, POR-15, paint, done" 
until I get to #188.
188 would bother me if it were mine. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 rear subframe R

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Karl,

I have looked on several of the Stealer parts sites, and it appears MB 
has made a mess of them.   When I click on the link for "Brake" I get a 
diagram of the steering column, etc.  Under parking brake cable, there 
is a diagram that shows the "dust shield" but no way to get a part 
number.  For the front, there is a diagram and part numbers for "dust 
shield."   Maybe if someone has access to the real epc, they can find a 
part number for the rear brake backing plates or "dust shield." 
WDBEB28D1MB364746



Karl Wittnebel 
December 21, 2019 at 12:18 PM
I have 2 new backing plates but I think they are a 210 part number. 
Let me know what number you need and I will cross check it.




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