Re: [MBZ] Happy new year

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

To ALL

Russ W

On 1/1/2020 12:09 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

And to you & yours

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Jan 1, 2020, 12:00 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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East coast friends

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Re: [MBZ] Happy new year

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

And to you & yours

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Sounds like a good plan, Dan

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 9:54 PM dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Sort of.
>
> Because the market is very active here (2nd highest increase in home
> prices nationwide) we’re going to go with a fixed price broker. $400 will
> get us a year on MLS and full support from the brokerage as far as managing
> the listing and advice on pricing and comps.
>
> While we could likely sell doing a FSBO, and have done them in the past,
> there’s so much activity through brokers around here that it’s easy to be
> lost as an FSBO. Not only that, as you well know brokers typically won’t
> touch them since they won’t get a commission out of the deal.
>
> We’ve got a boatload of equity in the house, so we don’t mind giving up
> 2%-3% to a buyer’s broker to move the place. It’s a small price to pay to
> get the exposure that MLS will give us. A buyer could still contact us
> directly and avoid using a broker, too. We’ve got our handy real estate
> attorney friend four doors away who will handle the sale for us for a very
> reasonable fee.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 31, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Are you going to FSBO it?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 31, 2019, at 4:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> First of all, my apologies to Curley and others if I misunderstood.
> The real estate market here appears to be very different than yours. While
> I know that people are all about “new-new new!” as buyers, with the average
> age home being much less in years than in places like the Midwest and
> elsewhere that’s not as much of a driver for the marketability of a house.
> >>
> >> I think a lot of the “new-new-new” mentality comes from all of the HGTV
> remodeling shows that have what seems like everyone and their brother
> gutting their houses on a whim to encompass the latest and greatest styles
> and designs. I can’t help but wonder if places like the big box remodeling
> stores are behind a lot of this, as they’re the ones who stand to gain from
> it.
> >>
> >> In my immediate area you can find literally hundreds of new homes for
> sale on any given day. Development in this area has reached an insane pace,
> almost approaching the boom of the early 2000s. I see developments of
> 1600-2000 homes going up left and right, and they’re selling as quickly as
> they can put them up. If there’s a market for the “new-new-new!” folks it’s
> satisfied by these places, and we’ll never see those buyers looking at our
> house.
> >>
> >> However, with the way things are going, a buyer who wants in a house in
> short order, say less than 90 days, isn’t going to go that route. Inventory
> homes are rarely available, and the lead time on completion of a new home
> is easily 6-8 months from contract signing to occupancy, if not more. These
> are our buyers.
> >>
> >> Another thing on our side in the market is an established neighborhood
> with existing amenities and location. The billions of new homes being built
> are in areas where the infrastructure hasn’t been expanded to accommodate
> the influx of people, and as a result traffic and accessibility is nothing
> short of a nightmare. Those infrastructure upgrades will be years in the
> making, maybe as long as 6-8 years or more.
> >>
> >> I have a golf course, YMCA, little league, “A” rated elementary school
> and private park, all within walking distance. You won’t get those in a new
> development. Shopping at major stores is 5-10 minutes away, depending on
> where you want to shop. I’m just seven miles to the interstate and less
> than that to the Crosstown Expressway, a toll road going directly into
> downtown Tampa. Want to live in a new home? You’re looking at an hour
> commute to go 25 miles if you work in downtown Tampa. From my house
> depending on the time of day it’s roughly 30 minutes. We have a large
> contingent of military families here, thanks to being one of the highest
> rated areas by the BHO (Base Housing Office) at MacDill AFB, home of SOCOM.
> >>
> >> These are all things that make my neighborhood attractive in this
> market, and they’ve always been that way as long as we’ve been here. It’s
> one of the reasons why we built and bought here.
> >>
> >> Now - the “new-new-new!” folks will see our roof, AC and water heater
> as a plus, as other properties in the area that might be our competition
> won’t have their physical plants upgraded/replaced yet. With the age of
> most of these homes being in the early 20 year range, if these things
> haven’t been replaced, they’re at the threshold of needing to be. If I look
> at two roughly comparable homes, one that has a new roof and one that
> doesn’t, the one that will need a roof better be $20k less. If not, I’ll
> move on. That’s the average cost of a roof replacement around here. Brokers
> will definitely point this out to potential buyers. Paint is a 10 year
> item. 

Re: [MBZ] Happy new year

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Indeed.We watched the festivities in NYC on YouTube, definitely the discount 
coverage...
-Curt

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 12:00:35 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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[MBZ] Happy new year

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

East coast friends 

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[MBZ] OT: The boy strikes again

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

https://flic.kr/p/2i86ahi
Hope the pic works. Got another veal deer today. My first one by myself and my 
first with black powder.
We checked this one online so I didn't get a weight, it's bigger than the first 
one but not a ton. I'm pretty pleased with the shot, right behind the front 
shoulder. She ran about 20 yards, and was done.
Long haul back out of the woods, three quarters of a mile or more, up and over 
a big hill...
Curt 

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Sort of.

Because the market is very active here (2nd highest increase in home prices 
nationwide) we’re going to go with a fixed price broker. $400 will get us a 
year on MLS and full support from the brokerage as far as managing the listing 
and advice on pricing and comps.

While we could likely sell doing a FSBO, and have done them in the past, 
there’s so much activity through brokers around here that it’s easy to be lost 
as an FSBO. Not only that, as you well know brokers typically won’t touch them 
since they won’t get a commission out of the deal.

We’ve got a boatload of equity in the house, so we don’t mind giving up 2%-3% 
to a buyer’s broker to move the place. It’s a small price to pay to get the 
exposure that MLS will give us. A buyer could still contact us directly and 
avoid using a broker, too. We’ve got our handy real estate attorney friend four 
doors away who will handle the sale for us for a very reasonable fee.

-D

> On Dec 31, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are you going to FSBO it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2019, at 4:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> First of all, my apologies to Curley and others if I misunderstood. The 
>> real estate market here appears to be very different than yours. While I 
>> know that people are all about “new-new new!” as buyers, with the average 
>> age home being much less in years than in places like the Midwest and 
>> elsewhere that’s not as much of a driver for the marketability of a house.
>> 
>> I think a lot of the “new-new-new” mentality comes from all of the HGTV 
>> remodeling shows that have what seems like everyone and their brother 
>> gutting their houses on a whim to encompass the latest and greatest styles 
>> and designs. I can’t help but wonder if places like the big box remodeling 
>> stores are behind a lot of this, as they’re the ones who stand to gain from 
>> it.
>> 
>> In my immediate area you can find literally hundreds of new homes for sale 
>> on any given day. Development in this area has reached an insane pace, 
>> almost approaching the boom of the early 2000s. I see developments of 
>> 1600-2000 homes going up left and right, and they’re selling as quickly as 
>> they can put them up. If there’s a market for the “new-new-new!” folks it’s 
>> satisfied by these places, and we’ll never see those buyers looking at our 
>> house.
>> 
>> However, with the way things are going, a buyer who wants in a house in 
>> short order, say less than 90 days, isn’t going to go that route. Inventory 
>> homes are rarely available, and the lead time on completion of a new home is 
>> easily 6-8 months from contract signing to occupancy, if not more. These are 
>> our buyers.
>> 
>> Another thing on our side in the market is an established neighborhood with 
>> existing amenities and location. The billions of new homes being built are 
>> in areas where the infrastructure hasn’t been expanded to accommodate the 
>> influx of people, and as a result traffic and accessibility is nothing short 
>> of a nightmare. Those infrastructure upgrades will be years in the making, 
>> maybe as long as 6-8 years or more.
>> 
>> I have a golf course, YMCA, little league, “A” rated elementary school and 
>> private park, all within walking distance. You won’t get those in a new 
>> development. Shopping at major stores is 5-10 minutes away, depending on 
>> where you want to shop. I’m just seven miles to the interstate and less than 
>> that to the Crosstown Expressway, a toll road going directly into downtown 
>> Tampa. Want to live in a new home? You’re looking at an hour commute to go 
>> 25 miles if you work in downtown Tampa. From my house depending on the time 
>> of day it’s roughly 30 minutes. We have a large contingent of military 
>> families here, thanks to being one of the highest rated areas by the BHO 
>> (Base Housing Office) at MacDill AFB, home of SOCOM.
>> 
>> These are all things that make my neighborhood attractive in this market, 
>> and they’ve always been that way as long as we’ve been here. It’s one of the 
>> reasons why we built and bought here.
>> 
>> Now - the “new-new-new!” folks will see our roof, AC and water heater as a 
>> plus, as other properties in the area that might be our competition won’t 
>> have their physical plants upgraded/replaced yet. With the age of most of 
>> these homes being in the early 20 year range, if these things haven’t been 
>> replaced, they’re at the threshold of needing to be. If I look at two 
>> roughly comparable homes, one that has a new roof and one that doesn’t, the 
>> one that will need a roof better be $20k less. If not, I’ll move on. That’s 
>> the average cost of a roof replacement around here. Brokers will definitely 
>> point this out to potential buyers. Paint is a 10 year item. AC, 20 years. 
>> Water heater, 10 years.
>> 
>> We’ll list this house like we have others in the past. First, we’ll get an 
>> appraisal - a 

[MBZ] Future Darwin Award Winner

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://youtu.be/4L8TASl0NcY

Full 10 minutes.

https://youtu.be/-Q0xSyJFla4

Rick
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[MBZ] Dan's After House Project?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Might be a deal for some one.

https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/orlando-1969-mercedes-benz-280sel/7045642575.html

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2 million car...

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I consigned a bunch o stuff to an auctioneer.   I asked what assurance I 
had that i'd receive the proceeds less commission.  He has one of the 
big companies who come to the site to auction stores, industrial equip, 
etc., so out of state. He gave me this schpeil about how he was bound by 
law and honor etc, to pay me and that there were dire consequences for 
an auctioneer who did not pay the owner, Blah blah.   The stuff brought 
some amount.   Less commission, I was owed over 18k.  Every time I asked 
about payment for the first couple of weeks, it was "waiting for 
settlement."    After 2 weeks, nobody was available to talk.   Then they 
quit answering my calls at all.   I ended up with nothing.  Popos 
weren't interested, feds said it was "inconsequential amount" etc.


Auctioneers are only one step above lawyers.   But all the others I 
dealt with were not going to steal everything.  Yes, they have all kinds 
of tricks that always work to their favor, but most are not outright 
thieves.  Some of their tricks work to the seller's benefit. Seller's 
benefit is also to the benefit of the auctioneer.   I liked the BBC 
series, "the Irish RM" where one character was "Larry the Liar" the 
auctioneer.


Beware!

Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
December 31, 2019 at 1:35 PM
When the big auctions houses are willing to be openly crooked and 
refuse to take bids on your high dollar car, BringATrailer starts 
looking pretty good...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k3c6W7rXmA=450


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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The reason is "what's good for GM is good for the US."   Robert McNamara.


tyee165 via Mercedes 
December 31, 2019 at 1:24 PM
We have been metric in Canada for about 50 years. One gets used to 
it.  Most of the world runs on metric. No idea why the US holds 
out.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 Date: 2019-12-30 8:11 PM (GMT-06:00) To: 
Mercedes Discussion List  Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of 
the century C is for Commie unitsF is for Freedom units--FTSent from 
iPhone> On Dec 30, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Clay via Mercedes 
 wrote:> > Fake degrees.> > I was raised in 
places with celsius, so understand that.  I like knowing that water 
freezes at 0c and I will not live to see a 100* day.  To be much more 
exacting, I should learn Kelvin, but that just scares the crepes out 
of folks when you report temperatures.> > It also tends to irritate 
SWMBA when I tell her how cold it is, as she is not metric minded > > 
clay > > >> On Dec 30, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:>> >>> On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 16:29:03 
-0900 Clay Monroe via Mercedes>>>  wrote:>>> 
>>> I arrived near midnight to ANC, the snow had been falling for a 
bit>>> over five days, temps dropping to -17c over the past week.>> >> 
Why do you quote the temperatures in Centigrade and not Fahrenheit?>> 
>> >> Craig> > > ___> 
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[MBZ] OT: when your crooked auctioneer wants to steal your $2 million car...

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

When the big auctions houses are willing to be openly crooked and refuse to 
take bids on your high dollar car, BringATrailer starts looking pretty good...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k3c6W7rXmA=450

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

I fear F is for fools. The world runs on metric.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Craig via Mercedes 
 Date: 2019-12-30  9:33 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Craig  
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:11:18 
-0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:> C is for 
Commie units> F is for Freedom 
unitsHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!I'm glad my 
mouth was empty when I read 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

A retired realtor friend says people buy lipstick. If the house is clean and 
they can haul in the couch and flop onto it to watch TV, they are happy and 
will ignore the need for things like a new roof.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 Date: 2019-12-30  8:17 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Okie Benz 
 Cc: Dan Penoff  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT 
- Fun with Water Heaters You’re talking out your butt and you don’t know this 
real estate market.Properties like my house are under contract around here in 
three days on average unless there’s something seriously wrong with the place. 
No one is going to demand a new roof when one was just done less than 18 months 
ago. Nor are they going to expect/demand a new heat pump when the one in the 
house is under two years old. Same with the water heater. That’s crazy talk. 
There are institutional investors in the wings with cash who will also come out 
of the woodwork to grab homes like this to add to their rental portfolio.With 
an average home age of 20 years in this area, if these items haven’t been 
addressed yet it’s huge ding on the value of the home and will seriously affect 
the marketability. With all of them done the house is good for another 20 
years.I don’t know what you’re smoking, but you need to cut it out.-D> On Dec 
30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes  
wrote:> > +1   Having just been through the mill, Mitch is exactly right.   Any 
potential buyer will want a new roof, new furnace, new WH, and probably new 
appliances, and they don't give a shite about efficiency or cost, as long as 
they don't have to buy the new roof/appliances.    Cheap, crappy, new trumps 
fantastic, efficient, and low operating cost every time.> > Chances are the 
potential buyer will make you replace your fantastic, efficient, and low 
operating cost hybrid WH before they will buy.   (and the relatively new roof)> 
> Buyers are idiots, egged on by agents and brokers who are morons on top of 
being idiots.>> Mitch Haley via Mercedes >> 
December 30, 2019 at 6:47 PM>> >> >> Nobody cares about performance anymore, 
they want new.>> Buy the above and put it in the house you're selling.>> Better 
yet, wait a month and buy one with a 2020 manufacturing date.>> If the hybrid 
is well maintained and working well for the foreseeable future, stick it in the 
house you're moving into.>> >> _> > ___> 
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

We have been metric in Canada for about 50 years. One gets used to it.  Most of 
the world runs on metric. No idea why the US holds out.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® 
A
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 Date: 2019-12-30  8:11 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century 
C is for Commie unitsF is for Freedom units--FTSent from iPhone> On Dec 30, 
2019, at 9:05 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:> > Fake 
degrees.> > I was raised in places with celsius, so understand that.  I like 
knowing that water freezes at 0c and I will not live to see a 100* day.  To be 
much more exacting, I should learn Kelvin, but that just scares the crepes out 
of folks when you report temperatures.> > It also tends to irritate SWMBA when 
I tell her how cold it is, as she is not metric minded > > clay > > >> On Dec 
30, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:>> >>> 
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 16:29:03 -0900 Clay Monroe via Mercedes>>> 
 wrote:>>> >>> I arrived near midnight to ANC, the snow 
had been falling for a bit>>> over five days, temps dropping to -17c over the 
past week.>> >> Why do you quote the temperatures in Centigrade and not 
Fahrenheit?>> >> >> Craig> > > ___> 
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[OK Don via Mercedes]

You are recognizing his contribution to the rational measurement of
temperature, just like we recognize Diesel for the fuel we prefer, Farads
for capacitance, Ohms for resistance, Hertz for frequency instead of cps,
etc. ---

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 12:21 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Centigrade is a more accurate name for it.  Cent=100 grade = root
> for gradient => scale. Centigrade means 100 gradients between
> freezing and boiling, or where liquid water changes to solid and where
> liquid water becomes gaseous.
>
> Celcius makes no sense.  I owe nothing to that swede, whoever he was.
>
> > fmiser via Mercedes 
> > December 31, 2019 at 12:12 AM
> >>> Clay wrote:
> >
> >>> ... temps dropping to -17c over the past week.
> >> Craig wrote:
> >>
> >> Why do you quote the temperatures in Centigrade and not
> >> Fahrenheit?
> > Maybe because he is a sensible fellow and recognizes a good idea
> > when he sees it?
> >
> > And the currently correct name is "Celsius", named after the
> > Swedish astronomer Anders Celsius who developed a similar
> > temperature scale in the 1700s
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Centigrade is a more accurate name for it.  Cent=100     grade = root 
for gradient => scale. Centigrade means 100 gradients between 
freezing and boiling, or where liquid water changes to solid and where 
liquid water becomes gaseous.


Celcius makes no sense.  I owe nothing to that swede, whoever he was.


fmiser via Mercedes 
December 31, 2019 at 12:12 AM

Clay wrote:
  

... temps dropping to -17c over the past week.

Craig wrote:

Why do you quote the temperatures in Centigrade and not
Fahrenheit?

Maybe because he is a sensible fellow and recognizes a good idea
when he sees it?

And the currently correct name is "Celsius", named after the
Swedish astronomer Anders Celsius who developed a similar
temperature scale in the 1700s

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Re: [MBZ] 124 RF LCA???

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Depends on the quality of the parts, cheap LCA may only last a few years.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 31, 2019 12:08:33 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> Shop says $400 parts and labor to replace, sounds like a good deal then
> if I would need to get into all that
> 
> -_FT
> 
> On 12/31/19 11:47 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> > Complete assembly is $$$. Try Parks Auto, and Baker Motors. Otherwise you 
> > can get the ball joint and bushings separately, but need a press to get the 
> > ball joint out, and the bushings are a bear too.
> > 
> > I've ordered a press from Germany, still waiting, probably won't arrive 
> > until later in January. I have a press from Hazard Fraught, but you'll need 
> > to cut off the ball joint stem and heat the LCA in order to use this press.
> > 
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > 
> > Dec 31, 2019 11:43:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :
> > 
> > 
> > > Daughter unit says the front was squeaking on her 95 E320. Took it to a
> > > shop they said RF LCA bushing was bad (and springs and struts, I don't
> > > know about that aspect). She might be coming down this weekend I could
> > > do an R on it but don't know if I could get a part that quick what
> > > with the holiday. Who might have one I could get quickly? I should
> > > look on Amazon see if there might be a Prime seller. I don't think Max
> > > and I pulled off any front suspension bits off Wilton's car, the LF was
> > > smashed, I don't think we bothered with the other side. Probably should
> > > get new anyway.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 124 RF LCA???

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

for a relatively fast repair, buy the new LCA.  If you replace the 
strut,  you also need the dust cover, and bearing   I probably forgot 
somethings too.


You can try flaps/amazon.  or pay next day from crockauto.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
December 31, 2019 at 10:42 AM
Daughter unit says the front was squeaking on her 95 E320.  Took it to 
a shop they said RF LCA bushing was bad (and springs and struts, I 
don't know about that aspect).  She might be coming down this weekend 
I could do an R on it but don't know if I could get a part that 
quick what with the holiday.  Who might have one I could get quickly?  
I should look on Amazon see if there might be a Prime seller.  I don't 
think Max and I pulled off any front suspension bits off Wilton's car, 
the LF was smashed, I don't think we bothered with the other side.  
Probably should get new anyway.




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Re: [MBZ] I don't no whut i got

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

i reked mu car twice in a week cuz i don no left frum rite.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
December 31, 2019 at 9:26 AM
crack price

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/wilmington-mercedes-car-door/7046761134.html 





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Re: [MBZ] 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300D Turbo for sale on BaT Auctions - ending January 6 (Lot #26, 783) | Bring a Trailer

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Agree.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 10:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis 
wrote:

> I think it’ll break 20K. Very low miles and extremely clean plus quite
> rare leather interior.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 31, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>
> Still @ 8k.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 12:19 AM Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
>
>> That’s an extremely nice example.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Dec 30, 2019, at 11:00 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo-27/?utm_source=transactionalemail_medium=email_campaign=bat_model_notification
>> > Dwight Giles Jr.
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Re: [MBZ] 124 RF LCA???

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Shop says $400 parts and labor to replace, sounds like a good deal then 
if I would need to get into all that


-_FT

On 12/31/19 11:47 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Complete assembly is $$$. Try Parks Auto, and Baker Motors. Otherwise you can 
get the ball joint and bushings separately, but need a press to get the ball 
joint out, and the bushings are a bear too.

I've ordered a press from Germany, still waiting, probably won't arrive until 
later in January. I have a press from Hazard Fraught, but you'll need to cut 
off the ball joint stem and heat the LCA in order to use this press.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 31, 2019 11:43:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :


Daughter unit says the front was squeaking on her 95 E320. Took it to a
shop they said RF LCA bushing was bad (and springs and struts, I don't
know about that aspect). She might be coming down this weekend I could
do an R on it but don't know if I could get a part that quick what
with the holiday. Who might have one I could get quickly? I should
look on Amazon see if there might be a Prime seller. I don't think Max
and I pulled off any front suspension bits off Wilton's car, the LF was
smashed, I don't think we bothered with the other side. Probably should
get new anyway.

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Re: [MBZ] 124 RF LCA???

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Complete assembly is $$$. Try Parks Auto, and Baker Motors. Otherwise you can 
get the ball joint and bushings separately, but need a press to get the ball 
joint out, and the bushings are a bear too.

I've ordered a press from Germany, still waiting, probably won't arrive until 
later in January. I have a press from Hazard Fraught, but you'll need to cut 
off the ball joint stem and heat the LCA in order to use this press.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 31, 2019 11:43:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> Daughter unit says the front was squeaking on her 95 E320. Took it to a
> shop they said RF LCA bushing was bad (and springs and struts, I don't
> know about that aspect). She might be coming down this weekend I could
> do an R on it but don't know if I could get a part that quick what
> with the holiday. Who might have one I could get quickly? I should
> look on Amazon see if there might be a Prime seller. I don't think Max
> and I pulled off any front suspension bits off Wilton's car, the LF was
> smashed, I don't think we bothered with the other side. Probably should
> get new anyway.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
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[MBZ] 124 RF LCA???

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Daughter unit says the front was squeaking on her 95 E320.  Took it to a 
shop they said RF LCA bushing was bad (and springs and struts, I don't 
know about that aspect).  She might be coming down this weekend I could 
do an R on it but don't know if I could get a part that quick what 
with the holiday.  Who might have one I could get quickly?  I should 
look on Amazon see if there might be a Prime seller.  I don't think Max 
and I pulled off any front suspension bits off Wilton's car, the LF was 
smashed, I don't think we bothered with the other side.  Probably should 
get new anyway.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have 8.5 acres, high ground, marsh, and island which is fairly high 
ground too.  Zoning is AG8 which is one house per 8 acres so unless the 
zoning got changed that is it for houses.  I am in the County, there is 
a lot of shadiness that goes on with zoning and development.  Part of 
this Island is in the City of Charleston, having been annexed into the 
City years ago.  Developers are buying land adjacent to the City and 
annexing in, which increases zoning density by a large factor, and so 
all manner of vinyl villages and apartments are being built now.  These 
really aren't competition to my property, mine will take a special kind 
of buyer, so this realtor I have has his work cut out for him.  I'm in 
no rush, so that is in my favor.


The thing is, we are on a Sea Island, which some hundreds of thousands 
of years ago was beachfront, so there are large dunes running across the 
Island which were the beach front at different times as water levels 
receded.  These are high ground, the highest is 24ft.  The rest of the 
island is pretty low, from 10-16ft (i.e., the "Lowcountry") so it is 
prone to flooding from storms and such.  A CAT2 or greater would flood a 
good part of the Island.  So the developers buy up this land, which 
historically was farm land, and clear cut the forests, muck out all the 
organic spongy material that absorbs and controls water, then bring in 
6-10ft of high clay content fill material that is impervious basically, 
like pavement, so the water runs off rapidly, either onto neighboring 
properties that now flood, or directly into the marshes and rivers which 
is toxic as the runoff has no dissolved oxygen in it.  These building 
practices are a disaster, the houses are sh*tty, some of them actually 
have foundations cracking due to the fill settling, before they are even 
finished and have to be written off.  So that's a Big Deal.  We have 
been fighting this stuff and have gained some traction but it is a 
struggle against big money.


There's a lot more, but that is the jist of it.

--FT

On 12/31/19 6:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yes, but you’ve got a fair amount of land, too, don’t you? That has to be in 
your favor.

Around here land is in short supply. One of the things the County is promoting 
is “suburban infill” which is a fancy term for subdividing small plots of land 
(10 acres, for example) that exist here and there and building 20 homes on it. 
It’s the bane of the surrounding property owners, as it often messes with their 
existing zoning. For example, just to the east of my old house is an area of 1 
acre tracts that’s been there since the 1950s. It’s populated with homes from 
that time period along with any number of trailers and manufactured housing. 
It’s zoned RU-1, which is rural/residential with lots no smaller than 1/2 acre. 
There’s a 15 acre plot in the middle of their area that’s being sold to a 
developer who wants to get it rezoned to put (originally) 30+ homes on it. The 
locals have banded together and taken on the zoning commission and run the 
developer off - twice. He’s back again with it pared down to 20 homes, which is 
still a higher density than the existing zoning allows.

He’s already pussed out once on the latest hearing, asking for a continuance 
and trying to wait out the locals, but they’ll continue to challenge him as 
they’re well organized and pissed. I’ve lent them some support myself as an 
adjacent landowner and spoken to and written the County Commissioners, the one 
representing our area just happening to have been my former customer at the 
school district.

County government does work around here, and if you’re well organized and 
represented you’ve got a good chance of prevailing. This developer is not ready 
to give up, but he’s seeing his plans get pared down bit by bit to the point 
where it may not be profitable to pursue this much longer.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Agreed and I've been working on regrading the yard. I had some fill brought in 
a couple years ago that made a huge difference.
We've got a fieldstone foundation and it leaks mostly where they added the 
basement walkout. The joint there isn't sealed well. So the plan is to excavate 
that on the outside, repoint the masonry, in fact repoint the whole wall 
probably. Then (with Phillip's idea) add insulation/sealant. I'm thinking to 
probably put a sheet of plastic over that to keep the dirt from damaging the 
foam during backfill. And add more fill up to the house.
I've already got replacement gutters but getting somebody to put them up here 
is a total drag. We had a guy who bought materials and then flaked. At least 
the materials are in my garage...

-Curt

On Tuesday, December 31, 2019, 10:32:32 AM EST, Mitch Haley 
 wrote:  
 
 
The secret to a dry basement is to keep the foundation dry, not to seal it to 
the water builds up on the outside and pushes the wall in. 

The most important and easiest thing is to have good gutters, downspouts and 
especially outspouts. 
When I bought a bank owned home, the outspouts were missing. To make matters 
worse, there was only one downspout for the south half of the house, so half 
the rain that hits the roof goes down the SW corner. With the sump on the north 
side of the basement, when that water was dumped right next to the basement, it 
filtered in through the wall and made a big mess in the basement as it went 
around the furnace and water heater on its way to the sump. 
Buying a 10' length of downspout and sticking it on the ground level elbow at 
the SW corner got rid of 95% of the water in my basement. Now I only see water 
when wind drives rain hard up against the house. 

The rest of the cure for me would be to excavate a foot deep, 2-3' wide all 
around the house, and lay down plastic in the trench sloping away from the 
house. Then any surface water gets diverted away from the basement walls. 

Basement walls cave in for two main reasons: Water pressure and frost heaves. 
If you seal the basement wall so that water can't get in, but still have the 
water building up outside the wall, the wall can buckle. A 1970s 1400 sq ft 
ranch near me sold for $3k in 2012, partly because of septic issues but mainly 
because a 48' long wall was bowing in from water pressure. (the underlying 
cause of both issues was a high water table)
The way to get frost damage to your basement wall is to insulate the wall from 
the inside, allowing dirt touching the masonry to freeze because the masonry is 
cold. It's becoming quite common around here to finish basements, and the first 
thing they do is put insulation and drywall on the exterior walls. You can 
achieve most of what you want by insulating the outside of the wall where it's 
above ground, and letting the earth insulate the rest. 

Mitch.
  
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The secret to a dry basement is to keep the foundation dry, not to seal it to 
the water builds up on the outside and pushes the wall in. 

The most important and easiest thing is to have good gutters, downspouts and 
especially outspouts. 
When I bought a bank owned home, the outspouts were missing. To make matters 
worse, there was only one downspout for the south half of the house, so half 
the rain that hits the roof goes down the SW corner. With the sump on the north 
side of the basement, when that water was dumped right next to the basement, it 
filtered in through the wall and made a big mess in the basement as it went 
around the furnace and water heater on its way to the sump. 
Buying a 10' length of downspout and sticking it on the ground level elbow at 
the SW corner got rid of 95% of the water in my basement. Now I only see water 
when wind drives rain hard up against the house. 

The rest of the cure for me would be to excavate a foot deep, 2-3' wide all 
around the house, and lay down plastic in the trench sloping away from the 
house. Then any surface water gets diverted away from the basement walls. 

Basement walls cave in for two main reasons: Water pressure and frost heaves. 
If you seal the basement wall so that water can't get in, but still have the 
water building up outside the wall, the wall can buckle. A 1970s 1400 sq ft 
ranch near me sold for $3k in 2012, partly because of septic issues but mainly 
because a 48' long wall was bowing in from water pressure. (the underlying 
cause of both issues was a high water table)
The way to get frost damage to your basement wall is to insulate the wall from 
the inside, allowing dirt touching the masonry to freeze because the masonry is 
cold. It's becoming quite common around here to finish basements, and the first 
thing they do is put insulation and drywall on the exterior walls. You can 
achieve most of what you want by insulating the outside of the wall where it's 
above ground, and letting the earth insulate the rest. 

Mitch.

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[MBZ] I don't no whut i got

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

crack price

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/wilmington-mercedes-car-door/7046761134.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300D Turbo for sale on BaT Auctions - ending January 6 (Lot #26, 783) | Bring a Trailer

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I think it’ll break 20K. Very low miles and extremely clean plus quite rare 
leather interior.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Still @ 8k.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 12:19 AM Dimitri Seretakis  
>> wrote:
>> That’s an extremely nice example.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> > 
>> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo-27/?utm_source=transactionalemail_medium=email_campaign=bat_model_notification
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

They are attempting to re-create more paradise cities like San Francisco,
Seattle, LA, etc (read: rampant homelessness due to un-affordable housing).
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 9:35 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> I saw that VA proposal attempting to ban single family zoning. It’s
> absolutely outrageous. These idiots are chipping away at our country and
> our freedoms one bill at a time.
>
>
> https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dailycaller.com/2019/12/23/virginia-house-zoning-environment
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300D Turbo for sale on BaT Auctions - ending January 6 (Lot #26, 783) | Bring a Trailer

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Still @ 8k.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 12:19 AM Dimitri Seretakis 
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> That’s an extremely nice example.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 30, 2019, at 11:00 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I saw that VA proposal attempting to ban single family zoning. It’s absolutely 
outrageous. These idiots are chipping away at our country and our freedoms one 
bill at a time. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dailycaller.com/2019/12/23/virginia-house-zoning-environment

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> On Dec 31, 2019, at 8:44 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> There is a proposal in VA, now that one party has finally taken control of 
> the House, Senate, and Governorship, to enact a law banning single family 
> residential zoning. So no matter what you and your county government and 
> zoning board want, an apartment complex can go anywhere houses can go. How 
> many apartments could that developer put on 15 acres, and how much traffic 
> would that generate?
> 
> And they've prefiled a handful of gun bills that have 1-2 million Virginians 
> really upset. Upset to the point that over 90% of the county governments have 
> already enacted sanctuary provisions against bills that won't even be debated 
> until the legislative session begins next month. Several of the counties had 
> 1000-3000 people show up to the Board of Supervisors meetings where the 
> Sanctuary bills were voted on. When was the last time Rockingham County moved 
> the BoS meeting to a basketball court and 3000 people filled the bleachers to 
> demand they pass a law?
> Current map: 
> https://vcdl.org/resources/Pictures/Virginia-2A_Second-Amendment-Sanctuary-VCDLMap_12-29-2019.jpeg
> 
> Between the suburban NIMBYs and the gun owners, we could easily see 4 million 
> sincerely upset voters in a month or two. A guy I know went to a mini town 
> hall with the incoming leader of the House of Delegates. After he explained 
> to her why so many are against the proposed legislation, she told him the 
> bills were reasonable, common sense, necessary, had 90% support (more like 
> 90% opposition) and would be passed no matter what. 
> Mitch. 
> 
>>> On December 31, 2019 at 6:24 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Around here land is in short supply. One of the things the County is 
>> promoting is “suburban infill” which is a fancy term for subdividing small 
>> plots of land (10 acres, for example) that exist here and there and building 
>> 20 homes on it. It’s the bane of the surrounding property owners, as it 
>> often messes with their existing zoning.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Hey, that's a good idea. I've got a friend who works in commercial insulation. 
He offered to spray the underside of our camp. Doing the side of my basement 
would be a lot easier
Curt

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wrote:   > Curt wrote:

>  Yup.The downside is we waste a bunch of heat to the outside.
> At some point I need to dig around the foundation to add some
> plastic to keep away water. I'm thinking at the same time to add
> a layer of foam insulation to keep some of the heat in. -Curt

A spray-on polyurethane foam should stop water as well as a
plastic sheet will.  And polyurethane is a most excellent
insulation!  If it's closed-cell, it's air-tight and water proof.
And termites really like it as a place to build a colony...


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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It helped me hunting yesterday. I cut a fresh track in the snow and found 5 or 
more deer. They spotted me while I was looking for antlers and they took off. 
If I still had a doe permit I'd have gotten one.

Curt

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Mercedes wrote:   
Curt's storm of the century has hit here. 
Yesterday morning it was 44°F, steadily dropping to 26 this AM. 
Quite a bit of rain and drizzle yesterday, turning to snow flurries in the 
afternoon as temps dropped to 35°.
So now I've got an inch of fresh snice on the ground as rain turned to wet snow 
turned to regular snow. 
It beats freezing rain I guess. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Are you going to FSBO it?

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> On Dec 31, 2019, at 4:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> First of all, my apologies to Curley and others if I misunderstood. The real 
> estate market here appears to be very different than yours. While I know that 
> people are all about “new-new new!” as buyers, with the average age home 
> being much less in years than in places like the Midwest and elsewhere that’s 
> not as much of a driver for the marketability of a house.
> 
> I think a lot of the “new-new-new” mentality comes from all of the HGTV 
> remodeling shows that have what seems like everyone and their brother gutting 
> their houses on a whim to encompass the latest and greatest styles and 
> designs. I can’t help but wonder if places like the big box remodeling stores 
> are behind a lot of this, as they’re the ones who stand to gain from it.
> 
> In my immediate area you can find literally hundreds of new homes for sale on 
> any given day. Development in this area has reached an insane pace, almost 
> approaching the boom of the early 2000s. I see developments of 1600-2000 
> homes going up left and right, and they’re selling as quickly as they can put 
> them up. If there’s a market for the “new-new-new!” folks it’s satisfied by 
> these places, and we’ll never see those buyers looking at our house.
> 
> However, with the way things are going, a buyer who wants in a house in short 
> order, say less than 90 days, isn’t going to go that route. Inventory homes 
> are rarely available, and the lead time on completion of a new home is easily 
> 6-8 months from contract signing to occupancy, if not more. These are our 
> buyers.
> 
> Another thing on our side in the market is an established neighborhood with 
> existing amenities and location. The billions of new homes being built are in 
> areas where the infrastructure hasn’t been expanded to accommodate the influx 
> of people, and as a result traffic and accessibility is nothing short of a 
> nightmare. Those infrastructure upgrades will be years in the making, maybe 
> as long as 6-8 years or more.
> 
> I have a golf course, YMCA, little league, “A” rated elementary school and 
> private park, all within walking distance. You won’t get those in a new 
> development. Shopping at major stores is 5-10 minutes away, depending on 
> where you want to shop. I’m just seven miles to the interstate and less than 
> that to the Crosstown Expressway, a toll road going directly into downtown 
> Tampa. Want to live in a new home? You’re looking at an hour commute to go 25 
> miles if you work in downtown Tampa. From my house depending on the time of 
> day it’s roughly 30 minutes. We have a large contingent of military families 
> here, thanks to being one of the highest rated areas by the BHO (Base Housing 
> Office) at MacDill AFB, home of SOCOM.
> 
> These are all things that make my neighborhood attractive in this market, and 
> they’ve always been that way as long as we’ve been here. It’s one of the 
> reasons why we built and bought here.
> 
> Now - the “new-new-new!” folks will see our roof, AC and water heater as a 
> plus, as other properties in the area that might be our competition won’t 
> have their physical plants upgraded/replaced yet. With the age of most of 
> these homes being in the early 20 year range, if these things haven’t been 
> replaced, they’re at the threshold of needing to be. If I look at two roughly 
> comparable homes, one that has a new roof and one that doesn’t, the one that 
> will need a roof better be $20k less. If not, I’ll move on. That’s the 
> average cost of a roof replacement around here. Brokers will definitely point 
> this out to potential buyers. Paint is a 10 year item. AC, 20 years. Water 
> heater, 10 years.
> 
> We’ll list this house like we have others in the past. First, we’ll get an 
> appraisal - a real appraisal, not a “market valuation”. That way we know 
> where a buyer has to be as far as financing. Then we’ll do a survey of 
> comparable sales in the immediate area for the last 12 months. With this 
> information, we’ll establish a fair price and list the property for that 
> amount. None of this “start high and work our way down.” The listing price 
> will be a reasonable amount for the property based on the data we’ve 
> collected. We might leave a little money on the table, but we’re more 
> interested in selling than making a windfall.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On December 30, 2019 at 9:30 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Exactly.   His market may be different that the rest of the country, 
>>> because of all the people fleeing stupid states and moving to FL wanting 
>>> to buy houses.   but he needs to consider it is exactly these people who 
>>> made their state of origin stupid.
>> 
>> I thought Dan bought that water heater 5-6 years ago, shortly after I bought 
>> my 

Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Curt's storm of the century has hit here. 
Yesterday morning it was 44°F, steadily dropping to 26 this AM. 
Quite a bit of rain and drizzle yesterday, turning to snow flurries in the 
afternoon as temps dropped to 35°.
So now I've got an inch of fresh snice on the ground as rain turned to wet snow 
turned to regular snow. 
It beats freezing rain I guess. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

There is a proposal in VA, now that one party has finally taken control of the 
House, Senate, and Governorship, to enact a law banning single family 
residential zoning. So no matter what you and your county government and zoning 
board want, an apartment complex can go anywhere houses can go. How many 
apartments could that developer put on 15 acres, and how much traffic would 
that generate?

And they've prefiled a handful of gun bills that have 1-2 million Virginians 
really upset. Upset to the point that over 90% of the county governments have 
already enacted sanctuary provisions against bills that won't even be debated 
until the legislative session begins next month. Several of the counties had 
1000-3000 people show up to the Board of Supervisors meetings where the 
Sanctuary bills were voted on. When was the last time Rockingham County moved 
the BoS meeting to a basketball court and 3000 people filled the bleachers to 
demand they pass a law?
Current map: 
https://vcdl.org/resources/Pictures/Virginia-2A_Second-Amendment-Sanctuary-VCDLMap_12-29-2019.jpeg

Between the suburban NIMBYs and the gun owners, we could easily see 4 million 
sincerely upset voters in a month or two. A guy I know went to a mini town hall 
with the incoming leader of the House of Delegates. After he explained to her 
why so many are against the proposed legislation, she told him the bills were 
reasonable, common sense, necessary, had 90% support (more like 90% opposition) 
and would be passed no matter what. 
Mitch. 

> On December 31, 2019 at 6:24 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
> Around here land is in short supply. One of the things the County is 
> promoting is “suburban infill” which is a fancy term for subdividing small 
> plots of land (10 acres, for example) that exist here and there and building 
> 20 homes on it. It’s the bane of the surrounding property owners, as it often 
> messes with their existing zoning.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, but you’ve got a fair amount of land, too, don’t you? That has to be in 
your favor.

Around here land is in short supply. One of the things the County is promoting 
is “suburban infill” which is a fancy term for subdividing small plots of land 
(10 acres, for example) that exist here and there and building 20 homes on it. 
It’s the bane of the surrounding property owners, as it often messes with their 
existing zoning. For example, just to the east of my old house is an area of 1 
acre tracts that’s been there since the 1950s. It’s populated with homes from 
that time period along with any number of trailers and manufactured housing. 
It’s zoned RU-1, which is rural/residential with lots no smaller than 1/2 acre. 
There’s a 15 acre plot in the middle of their area that’s being sold to a 
developer who wants to get it rezoned to put (originally) 30+ homes on it. The 
locals have banded together and taken on the zoning commission and run the 
developer off - twice. He’s back again with it pared down to 20 homes, which is 
still a higher density than the existing zoning allows.

He’s already pussed out once on the latest hearing, asking for a continuance 
and trying to wait out the locals, but they’ll continue to challenge him as 
they’re well organized and pissed. I’ve lent them some support myself as an 
adjacent landowner and spoken to and written the County Commissioners, the one 
representing our area just happening to have been my former customer at the 
school district.

County government does work around here, and if you’re well organized and 
represented you’ve got a good chance of prevailing. This developer is not ready 
to give up, but he’s seeing his plans get pared down bit by bit to the point 
where it may not be profitable to pursue this much longer.

-D




> On Dec 31, 2019, at 6:06 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m going to put my house on the market soon. Some similarities here with 
> out-of-control development on fill-and-build tracts of too-low land that 
> needs 6 or 8ft of impervious fill to throw up sh*tty slab-on-grade low 
> quality vinyl villages that won’t likely survive the next big blow. That’s 
> not really my competition but it distorts the market by catering to the 
> younger comyahs who know nothing. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2019, at 5:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> First of all, my apologies to Curley and others if I misunderstood. The 
>> real estate market here appears to be very different than yours. While I 
>> know that people are all about “new-new new!” as buyers, with the average 
>> age home being much less in years than in places like the Midwest and 
>> elsewhere that’s not as much of a driver for the marketability of a house.
>> 
>> I think a lot of the “new-new-new” mentality comes from all of the HGTV 
>> remodeling shows that have what seems like everyone and their brother 
>> gutting their houses on a whim to encompass the latest and greatest styles 
>> and designs. I can’t help but wonder if places like the big box remodeling 
>> stores are behind a lot of this, as they’re the ones who stand to gain from 
>> it.
>> 
>> In my immediate area you can find literally hundreds of new homes for sale 
>> on any given day. Development in this area has reached an insane pace, 
>> almost approaching the boom of the early 2000s. I see developments of 
>> 1600-2000 homes going up left and right, and they’re selling as quickly as 
>> they can put them up. If there’s a market for the “new-new-new!” folks it’s 
>> satisfied by these places, and we’ll never see those buyers looking at our 
>> house.
>> 
>> However, with the way things are going, a buyer who wants in a house in 
>> short order, say less than 90 days, isn’t going to go that route. Inventory 
>> homes are rarely available, and the lead time on completion of a new home is 
>> easily 6-8 months from contract signing to occupancy, if not more. These are 
>> our buyers.
>> 
>> Another thing on our side in the market is an established neighborhood with 
>> existing amenities and location. The billions of new homes being built are 
>> in areas where the infrastructure hasn’t been expanded to accommodate the 
>> influx of people, and as a result traffic and accessibility is nothing short 
>> of a nightmare. Those infrastructure upgrades will be years in the making, 
>> maybe as long as 6-8 years or more.
>> 
>> I have a golf course, YMCA, little league, “A” rated elementary school and 
>> private park, all within walking distance. You won’t get those in a new 
>> development. Shopping at major stores is 5-10 minutes away, depending on 
>> where you want to shop. I’m just seven miles to the interstate and less than 
>> that to the Crosstown Expressway, a toll road going directly into downtown 
>> Tampa. Want to live in a new home? You’re looking at an hour commute to go 
>> 25 miles if you work in downtown Tampa. From my house depending on the time 

Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’m going to put my house on the market soon. Some similarities here with 
out-of-control development on fill-and-build tracts of too-low land that needs 
6 or 8ft of impervious fill to throw up sh*tty slab-on-grade low quality vinyl 
villages that won’t likely survive the next big blow. That’s not really my 
competition but it distorts the market by catering to the younger comyahs who 
know nothing. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 31, 2019, at 5:53 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> First of all, my apologies to Curley and others if I misunderstood. The real 
> estate market here appears to be very different than yours. While I know that 
> people are all about “new-new new!” as buyers, with the average age home 
> being much less in years than in places like the Midwest and elsewhere that’s 
> not as much of a driver for the marketability of a house.
> 
> I think a lot of the “new-new-new” mentality comes from all of the HGTV 
> remodeling shows that have what seems like everyone and their brother gutting 
> their houses on a whim to encompass the latest and greatest styles and 
> designs. I can’t help but wonder if places like the big box remodeling stores 
> are behind a lot of this, as they’re the ones who stand to gain from it.
> 
> In my immediate area you can find literally hundreds of new homes for sale on 
> any given day. Development in this area has reached an insane pace, almost 
> approaching the boom of the early 2000s. I see developments of 1600-2000 
> homes going up left and right, and they’re selling as quickly as they can put 
> them up. If there’s a market for the “new-new-new!” folks it’s satisfied by 
> these places, and we’ll never see those buyers looking at our house.
> 
> However, with the way things are going, a buyer who wants in a house in short 
> order, say less than 90 days, isn’t going to go that route. Inventory homes 
> are rarely available, and the lead time on completion of a new home is easily 
> 6-8 months from contract signing to occupancy, if not more. These are our 
> buyers.
> 
> Another thing on our side in the market is an established neighborhood with 
> existing amenities and location. The billions of new homes being built are in 
> areas where the infrastructure hasn’t been expanded to accommodate the influx 
> of people, and as a result traffic and accessibility is nothing short of a 
> nightmare. Those infrastructure upgrades will be years in the making, maybe 
> as long as 6-8 years or more.
> 
> I have a golf course, YMCA, little league, “A” rated elementary school and 
> private park, all within walking distance. You won’t get those in a new 
> development. Shopping at major stores is 5-10 minutes away, depending on 
> where you want to shop. I’m just seven miles to the interstate and less than 
> that to the Crosstown Expressway, a toll road going directly into downtown 
> Tampa. Want to live in a new home? You’re looking at an hour commute to go 25 
> miles if you work in downtown Tampa. From my house depending on the time of 
> day it’s roughly 30 minutes. We have a large contingent of military families 
> here, thanks to being one of the highest rated areas by the BHO (Base Housing 
> Office) at MacDill AFB, home of SOCOM.
> 
> These are all things that make my neighborhood attractive in this market, and 
> they’ve always been that way as long as we’ve been here. It’s one of the 
> reasons why we built and bought here.
> 
> Now - the “new-new-new!” folks will see our roof, AC and water heater as a 
> plus, as other properties in the area that might be our competition won’t 
> have their physical plants upgraded/replaced yet. With the age of most of 
> these homes being in the early 20 year range, if these things haven’t been 
> replaced, they’re at the threshold of needing to be. If I look at two roughly 
> comparable homes, one that has a new roof and one that doesn’t, the one that 
> will need a roof better be $20k less. If not, I’ll move on. That’s the 
> average cost of a roof replacement around here. Brokers will definitely point 
> this out to potential buyers. Paint is a 10 year item. AC, 20 years. Water 
> heater, 10 years.
> 
> We’ll list this house like we have others in the past. First, we’ll get an 
> appraisal - a real appraisal, not a “market valuation”. That way we know 
> where a buyer has to be as far as financing. Then we’ll do a survey of 
> comparable sales in the immediate area for the last 12 months. With this 
> information, we’ll establish a fair price and list the property for that 
> amount. None of this “start high and work our way down.” The listing price 
> will be a reasonable amount for the property based on the data we’ve 
> collected. We might leave a little money on the table, but we’re more 
> interested in selling than making a windfall.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On December 30, 2019 at 9:30 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
  

Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

First of all, my apologies to Curley and others if I misunderstood. The real 
estate market here appears to be very different than yours. While I know that 
people are all about “new-new new!” as buyers, with the average age home being 
much less in years than in places like the Midwest and elsewhere that’s not as 
much of a driver for the marketability of a house.

I think a lot of the “new-new-new” mentality comes from all of the HGTV 
remodeling shows that have what seems like everyone and their brother gutting 
their houses on a whim to encompass the latest and greatest styles and designs. 
I can’t help but wonder if places like the big box remodeling stores are behind 
a lot of this, as they’re the ones who stand to gain from it.

In my immediate area you can find literally hundreds of new homes for sale on 
any given day. Development in this area has reached an insane pace, almost 
approaching the boom of the early 2000s. I see developments of 1600-2000 homes 
going up left and right, and they’re selling as quickly as they can put them 
up. If there’s a market for the “new-new-new!” folks it’s satisfied by these 
places, and we’ll never see those buyers looking at our house.

However, with the way things are going, a buyer who wants in a house in short 
order, say less than 90 days, isn’t going to go that route. Inventory homes are 
rarely available, and the lead time on completion of a new home is easily 6-8 
months from contract signing to occupancy, if not more. These are our buyers.

Another thing on our side in the market is an established neighborhood with 
existing amenities and location. The billions of new homes being built are in 
areas where the infrastructure hasn’t been expanded to accommodate the influx 
of people, and as a result traffic and accessibility is nothing short of a 
nightmare. Those infrastructure upgrades will be years in the making, maybe as 
long as 6-8 years or more.

I have a golf course, YMCA, little league, “A” rated elementary school and 
private park, all within walking distance. You won’t get those in a new 
development. Shopping at major stores is 5-10 minutes away, depending on where 
you want to shop. I’m just seven miles to the interstate and less than that to 
the Crosstown Expressway, a toll road going directly into downtown Tampa. Want 
to live in a new home? You’re looking at an hour commute to go 25 miles if you 
work in downtown Tampa. From my house depending on the time of day it’s roughly 
30 minutes. We have a large contingent of military families here, thanks to 
being one of the highest rated areas by the BHO (Base Housing Office) at 
MacDill AFB, home of SOCOM.

These are all things that make my neighborhood attractive in this market, and 
they’ve always been that way as long as we’ve been here. It’s one of the 
reasons why we built and bought here.

Now - the “new-new-new!” folks will see our roof, AC and water heater as a 
plus, as other properties in the area that might be our competition won’t have 
their physical plants upgraded/replaced yet. With the age of most of these 
homes being in the early 20 year range, if these things haven’t been replaced, 
they’re at the threshold of needing to be. If I look at two roughly comparable 
homes, one that has a new roof and one that doesn’t, the one that will need a 
roof better be $20k less. If not, I’ll move on. That’s the average cost of a 
roof replacement around here. Brokers will definitely point this out to 
potential buyers. Paint is a 10 year item. AC, 20 years. Water heater, 10 years.

We’ll list this house like we have others in the past. First, we’ll get an 
appraisal - a real appraisal, not a “market valuation”. That way we know where 
a buyer has to be as far as financing. Then we’ll do a survey of comparable 
sales in the immediate area for the last 12 months. With this information, 
we’ll establish a fair price and list the property for that amount. None of 
this “start high and work our way down.” The listing price will be a reasonable 
amount for the property based on the data we’ve collected. We might leave a 
little money on the table, but we’re more interested in selling than making a 
windfall.

-D


> On Dec 30, 2019, at 10:58 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On December 30, 2019 at 9:30 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Exactly.   His market may be different that the rest of the country, 
>> because of all the people fleeing stupid states and moving to FL wanting 
>> to buy houses.   but he needs to consider it is exactly these people who 
>> made their state of origin stupid.
> 
> I thought Dan bought that water heater 5-6 years ago, shortly after I bought 
> my current house. 
> Mitch.
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