Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz Covid-19 policy

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

We have enough toilet paper, and also, we have bidet toilet seats, the only way 
to GO!!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 620 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard, still at the shop

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> On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  Last year Angie signed up with a service that shipped cleaning supplies and 
> whatnot to the house "on a regular schedule". Before I knew it we were up to 
> our asses in cleaning supplies and 1 ply toilet paper. In about October I 
> gave her hell for it, we had 3 big boxes of crap she hadn't even opened. 
> There are only two of us and besides which who goes through 2 bottles of 
> toilet bowl cleaner a month?
> Yesterday I found the last box and to my surprise its got 8 rolls of TP, 4 
> boxes of tissues, 1 box of wipes, 1 bottle of spray cleaner, 2 bottles of 
> toilet cleaner and lip balm. I guess you don't want to have chapped lips 
> while you're cleaning.
> It was like finding the lost city of El Dorado, we're rich I tell you, rich 
> beyond our wildest dreams!
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, March 16, 2020, 9:04:09 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
>> On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:49:20 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> How can we satisfactorily scrub our rear ends if we have no toilet
>> paper to finish the job? Okiebenz should send each of its members a
>> roll of toilet paper monthly since there is none in the stores. Gerry
> 
> You have a Sears catalog?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sold for $15999.  Well bought.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 2:45 PM MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Mellow yellow
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > The color or the spice?
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm just mad about saffron
> >>
> >> G
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Andrew
> >> Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:54 AM
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> >> Subject: [MBZ] '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior
> >>
> >> Maple yellow and in amazing shape.  I love the Becker Mexico cassette,
> >> assuming the wonder bar works properly..
> >>
> >> This should attract some serious interest, unless bidders need to
> >> sell stock to finance their classic car hobby.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300td-4/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-03-16
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Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz Covid-19 policy

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Heh! Heh!  Kaleb obviously acquired a bad case of apoxia from spending so much 
time at 35,000 feet here lately. Twenty dollars per roll? Not worth a penny 
over ten dollars per roll. Kaleb should recover in a day or two.
Gerry 

On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:17:58 -0500
Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  wrote:

> We will supply official Okiebenz tp for $20 each plus shipping. Kent charges 
> $35 plus shipping. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Mar 16, 2020, at 7:50 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 18:44:01 -0500
> > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  wrote:
> > 
> >> That will not work. You should place a plastic bag over your head for your 
> >> protection. 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
>  On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>   wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I have a big plastic bag over my computer.  "Sold for Prevention of 
> >>> Disease Only"
> >>> 
> >>> --FT
> >>> 
>  On 3/16/20 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>  In response to the recent outbreak of Covid-19, Okiebenz would like to 
>  review with you our new policies and procedures for dealing with this 
>  epidemic.  Please be sure you wash your hands and least once a week, and 
>  scrub your rear end and least once a month.  When sending your messages 
>  to the list, please be sure you are wearing rubber gloves before 
>  manipulating the keyboard in order to avoid infecting others.  We 
>  appreciate your cooperation during this trying time.
> > 
> > How can we satisfactorily scrub our rear ends if we have no toilet paper to 
> > finish the job? Okiebenz should send each of its members a roll of toilet 
> > paper monthly since there is none in the stores.
> > Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz Covid-19 policy

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

We will supply official Okiebenz tp for $20 each plus shipping. Kent charges 
$35 plus shipping. 

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> On Mar 16, 2020, at 7:50 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 18:44:01 -0500
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>> That will not work. You should place a plastic bag over your head for your 
>> protection. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a big plastic bag over my computer.  "Sold for Prevention of 
>>> Disease Only"
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 3/16/20 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 In response to the recent outbreak of Covid-19, Okiebenz would like to 
 review with you our new policies and procedures for dealing with this 
 epidemic.  Please be sure you wash your hands and least once a week, and 
 scrub your rear end and least once a month.  When sending your messages to 
 the list, please be sure you are wearing rubber gloves before manipulating 
 the keyboard in order to avoid infecting others.  We appreciate your 
 cooperation during this trying time.
> 
> How can we satisfactorily scrub our rear ends if we have no toilet paper to 
> finish the job? Okiebenz should send each of its members a roll of toilet 
> paper monthly since there is none in the stores.
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz Covid-19 policy

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Last year Angie signed up with a service that shipped cleaning supplies and 
whatnot to the house "on a regular schedule". Before I knew it we were up to 
our asses in cleaning supplies and 1 ply toilet paper. In about October I gave 
her hell for it, we had 3 big boxes of crap she hadn't even opened. There are 
only two of us and besides which who goes through 2 bottles of toilet bowl 
cleaner a month?
Yesterday I found the last box and to my surprise its got 8 rolls of TP, 4 
boxes of tissues, 1 box of wipes, 1 bottle of spray cleaner, 2 bottles of 
toilet cleaner and lip balm. I guess you don't want to have chapped lips while 
you're cleaning.
It was like finding the lost city of El Dorado, we're rich I tell you, rich 
beyond our wildest dreams!
-Curt

On Monday, March 16, 2020, 9:04:09 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:49:20 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> How can we satisfactorily scrub our rear ends if we have no toilet
> paper to finish the job? Okiebenz should send each of its members a
> roll of toilet paper monthly since there is none in the stores. Gerry

You have a Sears catalog?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz Covid-19 policy

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 One standard stainless steel "Okiebenz approved" brush will be issued for the 
cleaning of each behind that is bereft of toilet paper.
Oh, you found some toilet paper? Good for you!
-Curt

On Monday, March 16, 2020, 8:50:08 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 18:44:01 -0500
Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  wrote:

> That will not work. You should place a plastic bag over your head for your 
> protection. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I have a big plastic bag over my computer.  "Sold for Prevention of 
> > Disease Only"
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> >> On 3/16/20 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> In response to the recent outbreak of Covid-19, Okiebenz would like to 
> >> review with you our new policies and procedures for dealing with this 
> >> epidemic.  Please be sure you wash your hands and least once a week, and 
> >> scrub your rear end and least once a month.  When sending your messages to 
> >> the list, please be sure you are wearing rubber gloves before manipulating 
> >> the keyboard in order to avoid infecting others.  We appreciate your 
> >> cooperation during this trying time.

How can we satisfactorily scrub our rear ends if we have no toilet paper to 
finish the job? Okiebenz should send each of its members a roll of toilet paper 
monthly since there is none in the stores.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz Covid-19 policy

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 20:49:20 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> How can we satisfactorily scrub our rear ends if we have no toilet
> paper to finish the job? Okiebenz should send each of its members a
> roll of toilet paper monthly since there is none in the stores. Gerry

You have a Sears catalog?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Pretty green E320 with body damage

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

That's the color of the e320 I got from Kleb.   I loved the color and 
the car, but the M014 scared me, and it had been abused.   I am sure it 
was crushed long ago, but we got it sold before the engine made trouble.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 3/16/20 4:23 PM:

Looks like my youngest’s 2002 W210. Lovely dark green with a “java” interior… 
his only has about 120k on the clock, though.

-D





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Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz Covid-19 policy

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On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 18:44:01 -0500
Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  wrote:

> That will not work. You should place a plastic bag over your head for your 
> protection. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I have a big plastic bag over my computer.  "Sold for Prevention of 
> > Disease Only"
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> >> On 3/16/20 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> In response to the recent outbreak of Covid-19, Okiebenz would like to 
> >> review with you our new policies and procedures for dealing with this 
> >> epidemic.  Please be sure you wash your hands and least once a week, and 
> >> scrub your rear end and least once a month.  When sending your messages to 
> >> the list, please be sure you are wearing rubber gloves before manipulating 
> >> the keyboard in order to avoid infecting others.  We appreciate your 
> >> cooperation during this trying time.

How can we satisfactorily scrub our rear ends if we have no toilet paper to 
finish the job? Okiebenz should send each of its members a roll of toilet paper 
monthly since there is none in the stores.
Gerry

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[MBZ] Covid-19 part 2 policy

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It was left out of the earlier post.  In order to prevent the further 
spread of the virus, it is requested that you arrange with list owner 
for the pickup of your old outdated Mercedes as it will spread the virus 
faster than anything. We will come to your location to dispose of it for 
you.



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Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz Covid-19 policy

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That will not work. You should place a plastic bag over your head for your 
protection. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a big plastic bag over my computer.  "Sold for Prevention of Disease 
> Only"
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 3/16/20 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> In response to the recent outbreak of Covid-19, Okiebenz would like to 
>> review with you our new policies and procedures for dealing with this 
>> epidemic.  Please be sure you wash your hands and least once a week, and 
>> scrub your rear end and least once a month.  When sending your messages to 
>> the list, please be sure you are wearing rubber gloves before manipulating 
>> the keyboard in order to avoid infecting others.  We appreciate your 
>> cooperation during this trying time.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Okiebenz Covid-19 policy

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I have a big plastic bag over my computer.  "Sold for Prevention of 
Disease Only"


--FT

On 3/16/20 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
In response to the recent outbreak of Covid-19, Okiebenz would like to 
review with you our new policies and procedures for dealing with this 
epidemic.  Please be sure you wash your hands and least once a week, 
and scrub your rear end and least once a month.  When sending your 
messages to the list, please be sure you are wearing rubber gloves 
before manipulating the keyboard in order to avoid infecting others.  
We appreciate your cooperation during this trying time.



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[MBZ] Okiebenz Covid-19 policy

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

In response to the recent outbreak of Covid-19, Okiebenz would like to 
review with you our new policies and procedures for dealing with this 
epidemic.  Please be sure you wash your hands and least once a week, and 
scrub your rear end and least once a month.  When sending your messages 
to the list, please be sure you are wearing rubber gloves before 
manipulating the keyboard in order to avoid infecting others.  We 
appreciate your cooperation during this trying time.



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[MBZ] FWIW

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Doctor recovering from COVID-19 reveals HIV drugs treatment, willing to donate 
plasma

Less than half a month after recovering from novel coronavirus pneumonia, Wang 
Guangfa, a leading Chinese respiratory expert at Peking University First 
Hospital in Beijing, was back in the fight against the epidemic.

Under the recommendation of his doctor, Wang attempted HIV drugs that combines 
lopinavir with a low dose of ritonavir to fight against the novel coronavirus. 
The treatment was a success. With mild symptoms, Wang's fever went down after 
only two days at the hospital.

"In the initial media interviews after my discharge, I was hesitant to disclose 
the name of the drug I was using to the public for fear that it would be 
misleading as the drug had not yet been proven by researchers to work on every 
patient," Wang told the Global Times. "I do not encourage the patients to use 
drugs blindly over the fear that adverse reactions of drugs may further damage 
patients' health when the efficacy is unknown."

"But soon I was thinking that disclosing the drugs might give medical 
researchers a new treatment idea and give other patients more options and 
higher chance to combat the deadly coronavirus," he said.

After Wang's successful case, many Chinese drug research teams started 
repurposing the HIV drug in treatment of the novel coronavirus. Existing 
HIV/AIDS medication has now been widely used in clinical treatment for infected 
patients.(snip)

https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180336.shtml



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Re: [MBZ] S210 Spark Plugs

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

This new $500E300 needs some!

--FT
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> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:59 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> Maybe you can get a discount if you buy a gross for all your projects.
> 
> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote on 3/16/20 8:39 AM:
>> I should change them then. And buy another 24 plugs for the SL...
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Air travel

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That would be nice. Been inside the house all day working in my office. 

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> On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:58 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Well that takes some pressure off... you were doing these huge round
> robin tours, which gave you max exposure to humanity while trapped for
> hours in a pressurized tube at altitude...
> Suggest you take a walk to the back 40 at Okie Acres and breathe some clean
> country air in celebration.
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 11:48 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Our company has put an end to all air travel for a while. We are only to
>> go to places we can drive too. Might end up not even doing that.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Pretty green E320 with body damage

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My daughter's 124 E320 is kinda those colors, I like it

--FT

On 3/16/20 5:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Looks like my youngest’s 2002 W210. Lovely dark green with a “java” interior… 
his only has about 120k on the clock, though.

-D


On Mar 16, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Asking too much

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/493021878034038

2001 Mercedes-Benz E-Class
$1,500
Vehicles 
Listed 5 hours ago in Summerville, SC 



About This Vehicle…

Driven 200,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Green · Interior color: Gold


Seller's description…

2001 model, 202k, salvage title, very clean, 0 mechanical issues, car needs 
rear back door, rear door is hit, yes it closes and opens as of right now, cold 
ac, heat, nice sound system, good tires all around, good brakes, very clean 
leather seats, asking $1500 obo

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Re: [MBZ] Pretty green E320 with body damage

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looks like my youngest’s 2002 W210. Lovely dark green with a “java” interior… 
his only has about 120k on the clock, though.

-D

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Asking too much
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/493021878034038
> 
> 2001 Mercedes-Benz E-Class
> $1,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed 5 hours ago in Summerville, SC 
> 
> 
> 
> About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 200,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Green · Interior color: Gold
> 
> 
> Seller's description…
> 
> 2001 model, 202k, salvage title, very clean, 0 mechanical issues, car needs 
> rear back door, rear door is hit, yes it closes and opens as of right now, 
> cold ac, heat, nice sound system, good tires all around, good brakes, very 
> clean leather seats, asking $1500 obo
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[MBZ] E320 Crack snorter

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/603560883825335

2001 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Sedan 4D

$2,000

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[MBZ] Pretty green E320 with body damage

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Asking too much

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/493021878034038

2001 Mercedes-Benz E-Class
$1,500
Vehicles 
Listed 5 hours ago in Summerville, SC 




 About This Vehicle…

Driven 200,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Green · Interior color: Gold


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2001 model, 202k, salvage title, very clean, 0 mechanical issues, car 
needs rear back door, rear door is hit, yes it closes and opens as of 
right now, cold ac, heat, nice sound system, good tires all around, good 
brakes, very clean leather seats, asking $1500 obo


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Re: [MBZ] Rescue Critters: was Ok y’all **it just got real

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

All spayed/neutered and have first two rabies shots (except one wild one still 
needs second shot).  Local vet did neutering free (only paid for shots).  
Unfortunately, all but two turned out to be females (at about $100/spay).  
A local animal welfare group relocates adoptable cats and dogs from local 
shelter to northern states where they are in short supply.  Kill rate at county 
shelter went from about 90% to 10%.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 8:18 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rescue Critters: was Ok y’all **it just got real

Have you been able to catch them and get them spayed and neutered?  Around here 
the animal groups will do that for free on feral cats then you can release them 
again to do their business without multiplying. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:23 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We live on an old tobacco farm in rural NC.  The 11 outdoor rescue cats are 
> part of a group of 21 that were abandoned when some white-trash neighbors 
> abandoned their USDA-financed house two plus years ago.  My other neighbor 
> still has three of them and the rest disappeared, died, or got run over.  I 
> never wanted so many but I have more compassion for critters than can't help 
> themselves than for humans that won't.  
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From:  Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> 
>> Yikes. I like cats, but I only have one, and she’s 16 years old. A 
>> rescue the wife picked up on the side of the road in a thunderstorm. 
>> Weighed .8 lbs. when she was rescued, vet said she’d be unlikely to live 
>> more than a day or two.
>> 
>> 16 years later, she’s still here. Feisty yet lovable. Used to give 
>> the other three purebred (Chartreux) cats we had pure hell as well as the 
>> wife’s former Shitzu.
>> Definitely a cat raised on the streets, outlived the others and 
>> probably has another good 3-6 years.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Ok y'all **it just got real

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This is just sorta acknowledging the practical aspects of things.  There 
won't be enough resources to treat them anyway, so might as well just 
let it burn out.


I sent links to 2 podcasts, I am listening to the first one now. Scary 
stuff but reality.  The virologist suggests that a 1-2% fatality rate 
(much higher now in Italy) would result in 100-150mil deaths on the 
planet as this thing keeps spreading.


--FT

On 3/16/20 4:59 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

The Britt approach sounded nuts until I remembered that's exactly what we
did with measles when I was a kid.  There was no immunization for measles
(and most other things except smallpox) then and the measles was much worse
for adults.  So it was considered a good thing for the kids to swap measles
germs,  even though they put quarantine signs on the door.  Polio, not so
much.

-Original Message-
From:  Rick Knoble via Mercedes
...
BTW, Britain is following the exact opposite tack (tac?) They are letting
the virus go uninhibited, so that they can get a "herd immunity" and not
have annual outbreaks every year. Time will tell.

Rick


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Meade Dillon via
Mercedes 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:32:45 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Meade Dillon 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ok y'all **it just got real

I'm still trying to get my head around the reason for the extreme reactions
to COVID-19 vs. H1N1 back in 2009.

Here in the US of A, H1N1 Swine flu caused 60.8 million illnesses, 273,304
hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths.  Over 200,000 probably died worldwide.
Does anyone remember sealing off our borders, cancellation of all sporting
events and concerts, stock market crash?

The H1N1 flu primarily affected children and adults under 65.  COVID-19
affects the almost the mirror image, those above 70; or those with
underlying health conditions.  Which age group is more important to our
economy?  No judgement here, but I'll bet that most economists would say
that deaths and illness among the working age and future working age
populations will have a greater impact on GDP than those retired in their
70s - 80s - 90s.  No stock market crash, no panic.  Barrack Hussein Obama
was playing golf on the day his admin declared a national emergency.
Congress under Democrat control was focused on passing Obama-care.

China, where they completely botched their initial reaction by hiding the
evidence and ignoring the threat for 2 or 3 months, allowing it to spread
far and wide not only in their country but across the globe, has only lost a
couple thousand people (if you believe their numbers) and the number of new
cases is leveling off.  America is in a much stronger position than China,
why the hell are we in such a panic?

I think we are being played.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Ok y'all **it just got real

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Political dimensions aside (which are HUGE), I believe the general inability
of people to assess risk, skewed by sensational media coverage, is the
explanation.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 8:33 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Meade Dillon 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ok y'all **it just got real

I'm still trying to get my head around the reason for the extreme reactions
to COVID-19 vs. H1N1 back in 2009.

Here in the US of A, H1N1 Swine flu caused 60.8 million illnesses, 273,304
hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths.  Over 200,000 probably died worldwide.
Does anyone remember sealing off our borders, cancellation of all sporting
events and concerts, stock market crash?

The H1N1 flu primarily affected children and adults under 65.  COVID-19
affects the almost the mirror image, those above 70; or those with
underlying health conditions.  Which age group is more important to our
economy?  No judgement here, but I'll bet that most economists would say
that deaths and illness among the working age and future working age
populations will have a greater impact on GDP than those retired in their
70s - 80s - 90s.  No stock market crash, no panic.  Barrack Hussein Obama
was playing golf on the day his admin declared a national emergency.
Congress under Democrat control was focused on passing Obama-care.

China, where they completely botched their initial reaction by hiding the
evidence and ignoring the threat for 2 or 3 months, allowing it to spread
far and wide not only in their country but across the globe, has only lost a
couple thousand people (if you believe their numbers) and the number of new
cases is leveling off.  America is in a much stronger position than China,
why the hell are we in such a panic?

I think we are being played.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Ok y'all **it just got real

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The Britt approach sounded nuts until I remembered that's exactly what we
did with measles when I was a kid.  There was no immunization for measles
(and most other things except smallpox) then and the measles was much worse
for adults.  So it was considered a good thing for the kids to swap measles
germs,  even though they put quarantine signs on the door.  Polio, not so
much.

-Original Message-
From:  Rick Knoble via Mercedes
...
BTW, Britain is following the exact opposite tack (tac?) They are letting
the virus go uninhibited, so that they can get a "herd immunity" and not
have annual outbreaks every year. Time will tell.

Rick


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Meade Dillon via
Mercedes 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:32:45 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Meade Dillon 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ok y'all **it just got real

I'm still trying to get my head around the reason for the extreme reactions
to COVID-19 vs. H1N1 back in 2009.

Here in the US of A, H1N1 Swine flu caused 60.8 million illnesses, 273,304
hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths.  Over 200,000 probably died worldwide.
Does anyone remember sealing off our borders, cancellation of all sporting
events and concerts, stock market crash?

The H1N1 flu primarily affected children and adults under 65.  COVID-19
affects the almost the mirror image, those above 70; or those with
underlying health conditions.  Which age group is more important to our
economy?  No judgement here, but I'll bet that most economists would say
that deaths and illness among the working age and future working age
populations will have a greater impact on GDP than those retired in their
70s - 80s - 90s.  No stock market crash, no panic.  Barrack Hussein Obama
was playing golf on the day his admin declared a national emergency.
Congress under Democrat control was focused on passing Obama-care.

China, where they completely botched their initial reaction by hiding the
evidence and ignoring the threat for 2 or 3 months, allowing it to spread
far and wide not only in their country but across the globe, has only lost a
couple thousand people (if you believe their numbers) and the number of new
cases is leveling off.  America is in a much stronger position than China,
why the hell are we in such a panic?

I think we are being played.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] S210 Spark Plugs

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Maybe you can get a discount if you buy a gross for all your projects.

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote on 3/16/20 8:39 AM:

I should change them then. And buy another 24 plugs for the SL...

--FT




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[MBZ] OT straight information re: COVID19

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Somewhat technical but generally understandable from some really smart 
people who know their stuff and are not promoting any hysteria about 
this thing, just the facts not cable "news" channel 7x24 hysteria


https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-peter-attia-drive/id1400828889?i=1000468407666

at 28:40 the doc mentions that GI is another means of transmission

https://peterattiamd.com/covid-19-update-03152020/

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Re: [MBZ] Air travel

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Well that takes some pressure off... you were doing these huge round
robin tours, which gave you max exposure to humanity while trapped for
hours in a pressurized tube at altitude...
Suggest you take a walk to the back 40 at Okie Acres and breathe some clean
country air in celebration.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 11:48 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Our company has put an end to all air travel for a while. We are only to
> go to places we can drive too. Might end up not even doing that.
>
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[MBZ] Air travel

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Our company has put an end to all air travel for a while. We are only to go to 
places we can drive too. Might end up not even doing that. 

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Re: [MBZ] '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior

[MG via Mercedes]

Mellow yellow

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

The color or the spice?

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I'm just mad about saffron

G

-Original Message-
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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:54 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: [MBZ] '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior

Maple yellow and in amazing shape.  I love the Becker Mexico cassette,
assuming the wonder bar works properly..

This should attract some serious interest, unless bidders need to
sell stock to finance their classic car hobby.


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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

 

You said "maple yellow", but I think it was "mellow yellow".

 

G

 

From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 9:58 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Greg Fiorentino
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior

 

The color or the spice?

 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I'm just mad about saffron

G

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew 
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:54 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: [MBZ] '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior

Maple yellow and in amazing shape.  I love the Becker Mexico cassette,
assuming the wonder bar works properly..

This should attract some serious interest, unless bidders need to
sell stock to finance their classic car hobby.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300td-4/?utm_source=dailymail
 

 _medium=email_campaign=2020-03-16
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Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Heaven in Europe is where

the English are the policemen
   
the French are the cooks

the German are the mechanics

the Italians are the lovers

and the Swiss organize everything


Hell in Europe is where

the Germans are the policemen

the English are the cooks

the French are the mechanics

the Swiss are the lovers

and the Italians organize everything



Curley McLain via Mercedes  writes:

> In germany, the trains are clean, well maintained, and run on time, with 
> efficient and courteous staff.
>
> In Italy, the trains run, mostly, except when they don't.  I am not 
> being critical,  It is a cultural difference, and I love both, because 
> they ARE different.
> One shortline haul, from Foggia to Metaponto and points eastward is a 
> case in point.   The train was late leaving, ran maybe 40-60 miles and 
> stopped.  Not at a station.   After a while, the train crew were 
> standing beside the cab of the engine, with a dirty (well used) manual 
> and having what I call an Italian conversation.  Each pointing to one or 
> the other, or the book, with other hands flailing, voices alternately 
> raised or lowered, each passionately arguing his point.   then one to 
> three would disappear, then they'd reconvene and carry on the 
> troubleshooting conversation.   Eventually they got the locomotive 
> started, and we arrived at dark.  were were 6-8 hours late on a 1.5 to 2 
> hour trainride.  The taxis had all gone home.   The van that was 
> supposed to meet us had left.  Nobody spoke english.   we could not call 
> because we did not have an italian phone card.  We had not been able to 
> get lire yet, we had only DM or Pounds.  Finally the last man left at 
> the station waiting for his ride took pity on us, and loaned us his 
> phone card.  He was not an Italian.   with his broken Italian and our 
> English we determined that he was an "Alb" and we figured out we knew 
> that as albanian.   We thanked him for his kindness and tried to offer 
> DM but he refused.    I absolutely love Italy and Italians, but they do 
> not think or act like Germans ot English or Americans.   Others have 
> already mentioned the interaction and closeness, but there are other 
> cultural differences too, as I have attempted to point out in this 
> experience.
>
> The week in Southern Italy is one of the highlights of my life.
>
>
> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote on 3/15/20 10:29 PM:
>> 2 reasons:
>> 1) The Chinese are lying about everything to do with this disease
>> 2) the disease has overwhelmed the ability of the medical system to deal 
>> with the afflicted
>>
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 15, 2020, at 10:01 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> What I don’t understand about Italy is why their mortality rate from this 
>>> disease is over 7%. I get how they have an older population but still. Very 
>>> scary.
>>>
>>>
>
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Luddy School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering
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Re: [MBZ] '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Saffron's mad about me

--FT

On 3/16/20 12:58 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

The color or the spice?

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I'm just mad about saffron

G

-Original Message-
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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:54 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
Subject: [MBZ] '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior

Maple yellow and in amazing shape.  I love the Becker Mexico cassette,
assuming the wonder bar works properly..

This should attract some serious interest, unless bidders need to
sell stock to finance their classic car hobby.


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Re: [MBZ] '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The color or the spice?

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:35 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm just mad about saffron
>
> G
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:54 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel
> Subject: [MBZ] '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior
>
> Maple yellow and in amazing shape.  I love the Becker Mexico cassette,
> assuming the wonder bar works properly..
>
> This should attract some serious interest, unless bidders need to
> sell stock to finance their classic car hobby.
>
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300td-4/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-03-16
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Re: [MBZ] Two Annoying Things That Have Nothing to Do With The World’s Current SHITshow

[dan--- via Mercedes]

As for your second issue, a lot of times I’ve found that the seller has sold 
the item and didn’t keep the confirmation email from CL that has the link to 
manage the listing.

If you don’t have a CL account, it’s a one shot thing. Lose or misplace the 
confirmation email and you can’t access the post to manage it.

-D

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have been going to discount tire for decades. Typically, when I get a new 
> to me vehicle, I’ll take it down there and they will rotate and balance for 
> free knowing that I have a solid history of buying tires from them over the 
> last two decades. 
> Today I took the 2014 Passat TDI down to them for its first rotate/balance. 
> The guy took the information and entered it  into his computer and then 
> promptly asked me if I wanted to pay $4 for one day to have the tires 
> balanced or $64 for the lifetime of the tires to have them balanced. He said 
> it’s something that they started at the beginning of the year for tires that 
> were not bought a discount. Annoying.
> Second annoying thing to me these days is people who will not answer their 
> email about a craigslist ad, especially when they don’t give you a phone 
> number to call. I had Kaleb give me a Carfax for a 99ML320 that looked 
> promising. The Carfax shows that it was well serviced over its life. I’ve 
> been trying to get a hold of the guy for 17 days with no luck. Annoying.
> 
> Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] OT = On topic 124/OM602 overheating

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The 201 chassis is the only place I've seen electric fan clutches on MBs.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 6:54 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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>  Interesting, yours is a 602 NA?Mine were both 601 and both were electric.
> -Curt
>
> On Saturday, March 14, 2020, 4:38:06 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  > The 190 had an electric clutch if I remember correctly, while the W124
> has a viscous clutch.
>
>
> W201's vary.  Ours (diesel) has a visco-clutch.
>
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Re: [MBZ] '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I'm just mad about saffron

G

-Original Message-
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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:54 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior

Maple yellow and in amazing shape.  I love the Becker Mexico cassette,
assuming the wonder bar works properly..

This should attract some serious interest, unless bidders need to
sell stock to finance their classic car hobby.

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[MBZ] Two Annoying Things That Have Nothing to Do With The World’s Current SHITshow

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I have been going to discount tire for decades. Typically, when I get a new to 
me vehicle, I’ll take it down there and they will rotate and balance for free 
knowing that I have a solid history of buying tires from them over the last two 
decades. 
Today I took the 2014 Passat TDI down to them for its first rotate/balance. The 
guy took the information and entered it  into his computer and then promptly 
asked me if I wanted to pay $4 for one day to have the tires balanced or $64 
for the lifetime of the tires to have them balanced. He said it’s something 
that they started at the beginning of the year for tires that were not bought a 
discount. Annoying.
Second annoying thing to me these days is people who will not answer their 
email about a craigslist ad, especially when they don’t give you a phone number 
to call. I had Kaleb give me a Carfax for a 99ML320 that looked promising. The 
Carfax shows that it was well serviced over its life. I’ve been trying to get a 
hold of the guy for 17 days with no luck. Annoying.

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] OT = On topic 124/OM602 overheating

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Interesting, yours is a 602 NA?
> Mine were both 601 and both were electric.

Yes.  OM602 NA, visco-fan.

-- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] Very clean, smells new.

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

"Bought this for an employee who no longer needs it and I don't drive it."

TRANSLATION: "My wife found out about my girlfriend and I had to let her 
go, now selling the car I bought for her"


--FT

On 3/16/20 11:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

The cracked w/s says it all..

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 11:12 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:



    Mercedes CLK 320 - $3800(Summerville)


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-mercedes-clk-320/7093666474.html

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Re: [MBZ] Very clean, smells new.

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The cracked w/s says it all..

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 11:12 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Mercedes CLK 320 - $3800(Summerville)
>
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-mercedes-clk-320/7093666474.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] fan temp sensor W124 OM602

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 18:49:24 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Curley - found a clean copy of your wiring diagram.

Thank you, Max. That is cleaner than the one I have.


> Check out this page on Benzworld for nice clean copies of all the 124
> ETM.
> 
> Scroll down to thread #7.
> 
> https://www.benzworld.org/threads/anyone-hosting-supplement-14.1506315/

I will have to check them out.


Craig

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[MBZ] hmmmm...

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

   1999 Mercedes Benz E320 Wagon - $599(North Jax)

Interior in excellent shape, Car will not run, Taken in trade Sell for 
parts or Whatever , have title $599 OBO


https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/pts/d/jacksonville-1999-mercedes-benz-e320/7090708691.html

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[MBZ] Very clean, smells new.

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

   Mercedes CLK 320 - $3800(Summerville)

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-mercedes-clk-320/7093666474.html

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Re: [MBZ] fan temp sensor W124 OM602

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 23:34:00 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I read on a PP forum that unplugging a relay and pluggin it in cured a 
> problem (Seat adjustment not working, both front seats)   Maybe it is 
> not unusual tha tpulling the relay and putting it back in cured the
> problem.

Did you use contact cleaner when you put the relay back in?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] S210 Spark Plugs

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Yeah, just make sure you buy the right quantity

-D

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 9:39 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I should change them then. And buy another 24 plugs for the SL...
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 9:34 AM, dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Plugs on the M112/3 are required about every 75k-100k. I have service 
>> records on this car, so I knew it was due, as well as having looked at one 
>> and seen that the electrode was pretty worn.
>> 
>> While I expected a difference, more in mileage than actual running, I was 
>> surprised at how much smoother the idle is since the change.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m wondering now if should change plugs on the $600E320.  About 240kmi.  
>>> It idles a bit rough. The PO seems to have kept up on maintenance items 
>>> though. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 16, 2020, at 5:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Did the plugs on the 1998 wagon yesterday. Piece of cake, took me under 
 an hour total. I was thinking it was worse, probably because the last 
 spark plug job I did was on the ML500 with the M113, which is very tight 
 in spots.
 
 Plenty of room to work without jacking the engine. I was going to do motor 
 mounts at the same time but didn’t as I just didn’t want to take that much 
 on.
 
 Definitely needed. The car idles so smoothly it’s amazing.
 
 Dummy me - I had bought a box of Bosch plugs (10) for the job, not paying 
 attention to the quantity. Had to run out to FLAPS and buy two more plugs 
 - luckily they had them in stock. Counter guy was puzzled. “Why you want 
 only two plugs?”
 
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Re: [MBZ] NOT COVIDS: The depreciation on these things is amazing

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I'm afraid I would get sick of the bilious leather interior after a couple
weeks.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2020 at 3:05 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Probably would be a nightmare to maintain, but relative low miles for a
> 13yo car.  Missing hood star?
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2675684996044320/
>
> 2007 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 550 4MATIC Sedan 4D
> Myrtle Beach, SC· 23 hours ago
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2675684996044320/?ref=product_details>·
>
>
> $6,500
>
>   * About This Vehicle
>
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Driven 131,000 miles
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Automatic transmission
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Brown
>   *
>   o
>
>   o 14.0 MPG city · 21.0 MPG highway · 16.0 MPG combined
>   *
>   o
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[MBZ] '79 300TD on BAT with a "saffron" interior

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Maple yellow and in amazing shape.  I love the Becker Mexico cassette,
assuming the wonder bar works properly..

This should attract some serious interest, unless bidders need to
sell stock to finance their classic car hobby.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300td-4/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-03-16
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Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Good site for daily tracking of COV 19 testing.

https://twitter.com/COVID19Tracking


On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 8:47 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> Max says:
>
> >I'm still trying to get my head around the reason for the extreme
> reactions
>
> It's political, so as such, not up for discussion on this particular forum.
>
> >I think we are being played.
>
> Ya think?
> Unfortunately, if/when we are in a recession because of the reaction (or
> overreaction) to this viral outbreak, a lot of people are going to suffer.
>
> BTW, Britain is following the exact opposite tack (tac?) They are letting
> the virus go uninhibited, so that they can get a "herd immunity" and not
> have annual outbreaks every year. Time will tell.
>
> Rick
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Meade Dillon
> via Mercedes 
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:32:45 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Meade Dillon 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real
>
> I'm still trying to get my head around the reason for the extreme reactions
> to COVID-19 vs. H1N1 back in 2009.
>
> Here in the US of A, H1N1 Swine flu caused 60.8 million illnesses, 273,304
> hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths.  Over 200,000 probably died
> worldwide.  Does anyone remember sealing off our borders, cancellation of
> all sporting events and concerts, stock market crash?
>
> The H1N1 flu primarily affected children and adults under 65.  COVID-19
> affects the almost the mirror image, those above 70; or those with
> underlying health conditions.  Which age group is more important to our
> economy?  No judgement here, but I'll bet that most economists would say
> that deaths and illness among the working age and future working age
> populations will have a greater impact on GDP than those retired in their
> 70s - 80s - 90s.  No stock market crash, no panic.  Barrack Hussein Obama
> was playing golf on the day his admin declared a national emergency.
> Congress under Democrat control was focused on passing Obama-care.
>
> China, where they completely botched their initial reaction by hiding the
> evidence and ignoring the threat for 2 or 3 months, allowing it to spread
> far and wide not only in their country but across the globe, has only lost
> a couple thousand people (if you believe their numbers) and the number of
> new cases is leveling off.  America is in a much stronger position than
> China, why the hell are we in such a panic?
>
> I think we are being played.
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] Crackhead in Max’s hood

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I would rather negotiate to get a nicer one that has been maintained rather
than lowball for a project car.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 7:06 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Not too outrageous, especially if it has been well cared for and has
> complete service records.
>
> That's a "special edition" model with leather, fancy wheels, etc.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Mar 15, 2020 9:19:35 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
>
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/815254258979433/
> >
> > 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 300D Sedan 4D
> > $5500
> >
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Re: [MBZ] S210 Spark Plugs

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I should change them then. And buy another 24 plugs for the SL...

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 9:34 AM, dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Plugs on the M112/3 are required about every 75k-100k. I have service 
> records on this car, so I knew it was due, as well as having looked at one 
> and seen that the electrode was pretty worn.
> 
> While I expected a difference, more in mileage than actual running, I was 
> surprised at how much smoother the idle is since the change.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m wondering now if should change plugs on the $600E320.  About 240kmi.  It 
>> idles a bit rough. The PO seems to have kept up on maintenance items though. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 16, 2020, at 5:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did the plugs on the 1998 wagon yesterday. Piece of cake, took me under an 
>>> hour total. I was thinking it was worse, probably because the last spark 
>>> plug job I did was on the ML500 with the M113, which is very tight in spots.
>>> 
>>> Plenty of room to work without jacking the engine. I was going to do motor 
>>> mounts at the same time but didn’t as I just didn’t want to take that much 
>>> on.
>>> 
>>> Definitely needed. The car idles so smoothly it’s amazing.
>>> 
>>> Dummy me - I had bought a box of Bosch plugs (10) for the job, not paying 
>>> attention to the quantity. Had to run out to FLAPS and buy two more plugs - 
>>> luckily they had them in stock. Counter guy was puzzled. “Why you want only 
>>> two plugs?”
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] S210 Spark Plugs

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Plugs on the M112/3 are required about every 75k-100k. I have service records 
on this car, so I knew it was due, as well as having looked at one and seen 
that the electrode was pretty worn.

While I expected a difference, more in mileage than actual running, I was 
surprised at how much smoother the idle is since the change.

-D

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m wondering now if should change plugs on the $600E320.  About 240kmi.  It 
> idles a bit rough. The PO seems to have kept up on maintenance items though. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 5:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Did the plugs on the 1998 wagon yesterday. Piece of cake, took me under an 
>> hour total. I was thinking it was worse, probably because the last spark 
>> plug job I did was on the ML500 with the M113, which is very tight in spots.
>> 
>> Plenty of room to work without jacking the engine. I was going to do motor 
>> mounts at the same time but didn’t as I just didn’t want to take that much 
>> on.
>> 
>> Definitely needed. The car idles so smoothly it’s amazing.
>> 
>> Dummy me - I had bought a box of Bosch plugs (10) for the job, not paying 
>> attention to the quantity. Had to run out to FLAPS and buy two more plugs - 
>> luckily they had them in stock. Counter guy was puzzled. “Why you want only 
>> two plugs?”
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Rescue Critters: was Ok y’all **it just got real

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Our Country animal shelter is transitioning to a no-kill shelter, and part of 
the process involving feral cats is capture, spay/neuter and release. They 
notch the cat’s ear when this is done so they can be identified.

It’s working pretty well. Their euthanasia numbers have gone down 
significantly. The worst part is people bringing in kittens that are not 
weaned. Those have to be fostered or they’re euthanized.

-D

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 8:18 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you been able to catch them and get them spayed and neutered?  Around 
> here the animal groups will do that for free on feral cats then you can 
> release them again to do their business without multiplying. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:23 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> We live on an old tobacco farm in rural NC.  The 11 outdoor rescue cats are 
>> part of a group of 21 that were abandoned when some white-trash neighbors 
>> abandoned their USDA-financed house two plus years ago.  My other neighbor 
>> still has three of them and the rest disappeared, died, or got run over.  I 
>> never wanted so many but I have more compassion for critters than can't help 
>> themselves than for humans that won't.  
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From:  Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>>> 
>>> Yikes. I like cats, but I only have one, and she’s 16 years old. A rescue 
>>> the wife
>>> picked up on the side of the road in a thunderstorm. Weighed .8 lbs. when 
>>> she
>>> was rescued, vet said she’d be unlikely to live more than a day or two.
>>> 
>>> 16 years later, she’s still here. Feisty yet lovable. Used to give the 
>>> other three
>>> purebred (Chartreux) cats we had pure hell as well as the wife’s former 
>>> Shitzu.
>>> Definitely a cat raised on the streets, outlived the others and probably has
>>> another good 3-6 years.
>>> 
>>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Max says:

>I'm still trying to get my head around the reason for the extreme reactions

It's political, so as such, not up for discussion on this particular forum.

>I think we are being played.

Ya think?
Unfortunately, if/when we are in a recession because of the reaction (or 
overreaction) to this viral outbreak, a lot of people are going to suffer.

BTW, Britain is following the exact opposite tack (tac?) They are letting the 
virus go uninhibited, so that they can get a "herd immunity" and not have 
annual outbreaks every year. Time will tell.

Rick


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Meade Dillon via 
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Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:32:45 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Meade Dillon 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real

I'm still trying to get my head around the reason for the extreme reactions
to COVID-19 vs. H1N1 back in 2009.

Here in the US of A, H1N1 Swine flu caused 60.8 million illnesses, 273,304
hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths.  Over 200,000 probably died
worldwide.  Does anyone remember sealing off our borders, cancellation of
all sporting events and concerts, stock market crash?

The H1N1 flu primarily affected children and adults under 65.  COVID-19
affects the almost the mirror image, those above 70; or those with
underlying health conditions.  Which age group is more important to our
economy?  No judgement here, but I'll bet that most economists would say
that deaths and illness among the working age and future working age
populations will have a greater impact on GDP than those retired in their
70s - 80s - 90s.  No stock market crash, no panic.  Barrack Hussein Obama
was playing golf on the day his admin declared a national emergency.
Congress under Democrat control was focused on passing Obama-care.

China, where they completely botched their initial reaction by hiding the
evidence and ignoring the threat for 2 or 3 months, allowing it to spread
far and wide not only in their country but across the globe, has only lost
a couple thousand people (if you believe their numbers) and the number of
new cases is leveling off.  America is in a much stronger position than
China, why the hell are we in such a panic?

I think we are being played.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm still trying to get my head around the reason for the extreme reactions
to COVID-19 vs. H1N1 back in 2009.

Here in the US of A, H1N1 Swine flu caused 60.8 million illnesses, 273,304
hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths.  Over 200,000 probably died
worldwide.  Does anyone remember sealing off our borders, cancellation of
all sporting events and concerts, stock market crash?

The H1N1 flu primarily affected children and adults under 65.  COVID-19
affects the almost the mirror image, those above 70; or those with
underlying health conditions.  Which age group is more important to our
economy?  No judgement here, but I'll bet that most economists would say
that deaths and illness among the working age and future working age
populations will have a greater impact on GDP than those retired in their
70s - 80s - 90s.  No stock market crash, no panic.  Barrack Hussein Obama
was playing golf on the day his admin declared a national emergency.
Congress under Democrat control was focused on passing Obama-care.

China, where they completely botched their initial reaction by hiding the
evidence and ignoring the threat for 2 or 3 months, allowing it to spread
far and wide not only in their country but across the globe, has only lost
a couple thousand people (if you believe their numbers) and the number of
new cases is leveling off.  America is in a much stronger position than
China, why the hell are we in such a panic?

I think we are being played.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>NO vitamin C

I was in Costco for Vitamin C the other day. They had plenty.

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Rescue Critters: was Ok y’all **it just got real

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Have you been able to catch them and get them spayed and neutered?  Around here 
the animal groups will do that for free on feral cats then you can release them 
again to do their business without multiplying. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:23 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We live on an old tobacco farm in rural NC.  The 11 outdoor rescue cats are 
> part of a group of 21 that were abandoned when some white-trash neighbors 
> abandoned their USDA-financed house two plus years ago.  My other neighbor 
> still has three of them and the rest disappeared, died, or got run over.  I 
> never wanted so many but I have more compassion for critters than can't help 
> themselves than for humans that won't.  
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From:  Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> 
>> Yikes. I like cats, but I only have one, and she’s 16 years old. A rescue 
>> the wife
>> picked up on the side of the road in a thunderstorm. Weighed .8 lbs. when she
>> was rescued, vet said she’d be unlikely to live more than a day or two.
>> 
>> 16 years later, she’s still here. Feisty yet lovable. Used to give the other 
>> three
>> purebred (Chartreux) cats we had pure hell as well as the wife’s former 
>> Shitzu.
>> Definitely a cat raised on the streets, outlived the others and probably has
>> another good 3-6 years.
>> 
>> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] S210 Spark Plugs

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’m wondering now if should change plugs on the $600E320.  About 240kmi.  It 
idles a bit rough. The PO seems to have kept up on maintenance items though. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 5:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did the plugs on the 1998 wagon yesterday. Piece of cake, took me under an 
> hour total. I was thinking it was worse, probably because the last spark plug 
> job I did was on the ML500 with the M113, which is very tight in spots.
> 
> Plenty of room to work without jacking the engine. I was going to do motor 
> mounts at the same time but didn’t as I just didn’t want to take that much on.
> 
> Definitely needed. The car idles so smoothly it’s amazing.
> 
> Dummy me - I had bought a box of Bosch plugs (10) for the job, not paying 
> attention to the quantity. Had to run out to FLAPS and buy two more plugs - 
> luckily they had them in stock. Counter guy was puzzled. “Why you want only 
> two plugs?”
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

4) Smoking is more common, and air pollution in Italy was much worse than
the US until recently.  I think both have contributed to lung damage.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 5:31 AM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Buggered wrote:
>
> > 2 reasons:
> > 1) The Chinese are lying about everything to do with this
> > disease 2) the disease has overwhelmed the ability of the
> > medical system to deal with the afflicted
>
> 3) a lot of people are sick and not reporting it?
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Re: [MBZ] Crackhead in Max’s hood

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Not too outrageous, especially if it has been well cared for and has complete 
service records.

That's a "special edition" model with leather, fancy wheels, etc.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Mar 15, 2020 9:19:35 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes :

> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/815254258979433/
> 
> 1995 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 300D Sedan 4D
> $5500
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Ok y’all **it just got real

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Buggered wrote:

> 2 reasons:
> 1) The Chinese are lying about everything to do with this
> disease 2) the disease has overwhelmed the ability of the
> medical system to deal with the afflicted 

3) a lot of people are sick and not reporting it?

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[MBZ] S210 Spark Plugs

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Did the plugs on the 1998 wagon yesterday. Piece of cake, took me under an hour 
total. I was thinking it was worse, probably because the last spark plug job I 
did was on the ML500 with the M113, which is very tight in spots.

Plenty of room to work without jacking the engine. I was going to do motor 
mounts at the same time but didn’t as I just didn’t want to take that much on.

Definitely needed. The car idles so smoothly it’s amazing.

Dummy me - I had bought a box of Bosch plugs (10) for the job, not paying 
attention to the quantity. Had to run out to FLAPS and buy two more plugs - 
luckily they had them in stock. Counter guy was puzzled. “Why you want only two 
plugs?”

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Rescue Critters: was Ok y’all **it just got real

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Gotcha. I would probably do the same thing. You’re a good man.

-D


> On Mar 16, 2020, at 2:22 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We live on an old tobacco farm in rural NC.  The 11 outdoor rescue cats are 
> part of a group of 21 that were abandoned when some white-trash neighbors 
> abandoned their USDA-financed house two plus years ago.  My other neighbor 
> still has three of them and the rest disappeared, died, or got run over.  I 
> never wanted so many but I have more compassion for critters than can't help 
> themselves than for humans that won't.  
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From:  Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> 
>> Yikes. I like cats, but I only have one, and she’s 16 years old. A rescue 
>> the wife
>> picked up on the side of the road in a thunderstorm. Weighed .8 lbs. when she
>> was rescued, vet said she’d be unlikely to live more than a day or two.
>> 
>> 16 years later, she’s still here. Feisty yet lovable. Used to give the other 
>> three
>> purebred (Chartreux) cats we had pure hell as well as the wife’s former 
>> Shitzu.
>> Definitely a cat raised on the streets, outlived the others and probably has
>> another good 3-6 years.
>> 
>> -D
> 
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[MBZ] Rescue Critters: was Ok y’all **it just got real

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

We live on an old tobacco farm in rural NC.  The 11 outdoor rescue cats are 
part of a group of 21 that were abandoned when some white-trash neighbors 
abandoned their USDA-financed house two plus years ago.  My other neighbor 
still has three of them and the rest disappeared, died, or got run over.  I 
never wanted so many but I have more compassion for critters than can't help 
themselves than for humans that won't.  

> -Original Message-
> From:  Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> 
> Yikes. I like cats, but I only have one, and she’s 16 years old. A rescue the 
> wife
> picked up on the side of the road in a thunderstorm. Weighed .8 lbs. when she
> was rescued, vet said she’d be unlikely to live more than a day or two.
> 
> 16 years later, she’s still here. Feisty yet lovable. Used to give the other 
> three
> purebred (Chartreux) cats we had pure hell as well as the wife’s former 
> Shitzu.
> Definitely a cat raised on the streets, outlived the others and probably has
> another good 3-6 years.
> 
> -D


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