[MBZ] W124 Diesel Lifter Noise

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I know we’ve covered this before but this lifter noise was being all crazy 
today. It was starting and stopping randomly... it was kinda quiet then crazy 
loud... then suddenly gone...doing it at idle, doing it underway...total 
randomness. WTF 
I have about 4K miles on the M1 oil, oil level SAT, oil pressure SAT. 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] This is what you have to look forward to in 15-20 years when all the 124s and 210s are gone

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Jeez, Curt. That is really good. 
The best I ever managed in any of TDI Jetta’s was 50.4. And that was an 
automatic. My 2014 Passat did 45mpg @ 75mph coming back from San Diego in 
October. 

Bob R

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> On Apr 25, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Did you fill the tank each trip or let the car computer determine the mpg?
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 9:19 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am reminded that yesterday I had to go into the office. I took it slow
>> to see what my 2015 Jetta TDI is capable of. The 60 miles in returned just
>> over 58mpg, the return got just over 55. I kept the speed to no more than
>> 65 mph and mostly 60. In fact I didn't think to try for a high mileage run
>> until I was already 8 or 9 miles into it, I could probably do better if I
>> worked at it the whole distance.
>> Interestingly on the way home I had a cop slide in behind me, I was doing
>> 60 in a 55 zone. I was amazed to see other cars zipping past us as he was
>> obviously running my plate. I had the cruise set and just kept it between
>> the lines. After I came up clean he moved on an nabbed another slow driver
>> 3 cars ahead of me...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>On Friday, April 24, 2020, 10:38:44 PM EDT, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I had the hood up on the Sprinter today. It also has plastic covers of
>> various sizes and shapes, under which I’m sure lies a 3.0l V6 Diesel
>> engine. Everyone who has driven her says that she is very easy to drive and
>> does very well on the road. My niece said that the cabin is designed much
>> more ergonomically correct with simpler controls than the 2017 Honda Oddity
>> van that was destined for the used car market before COVID-19 hit. The
>> Sprinter is MUCH more van for the $10K price difference, way more room with
>> similar fuel economy! It’s averaging 18MPG just like the Honda, and it
>> should get better as it breaks in. It has no problem getting as high as
>> 22.6MPG on mostly highway drives, probably capable of mid 20’s on a long
>> hwy trip.
>> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
>> 2019 Sprinter, 750 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen
>> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard still in hibernation
>> 
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>>> That is what your new MB's look like under the hood.
>>> 
 On 4/24/2020 9:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] This is what you have to look forward to in 15-20 years when all the 124s and 210s are gone

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Did you fill the tank each trip or let the car computer determine the mpg?

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 9:19 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I am reminded that yesterday I had to go into the office. I took it slow
> to see what my 2015 Jetta TDI is capable of. The 60 miles in returned just
> over 58mpg, the return got just over 55. I kept the speed to no more than
> 65 mph and mostly 60. In fact I didn't think to try for a high mileage run
> until I was already 8 or 9 miles into it, I could probably do better if I
> worked at it the whole distance.
> Interestingly on the way home I had a cop slide in behind me, I was doing
> 60 in a 55 zone. I was amazed to see other cars zipping past us as he was
> obviously running my plate. I had the cruise set and just kept it between
> the lines. After I came up clean he moved on an nabbed another slow driver
> 3 cars ahead of me...
> -Curt
>
> On Friday, April 24, 2020, 10:38:44 PM EDT, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  I had the hood up on the Sprinter today. It also has plastic covers of
> various sizes and shapes, under which I’m sure lies a 3.0l V6 Diesel
> engine. Everyone who has driven her says that she is very easy to drive and
> does very well on the road. My niece said that the cabin is designed much
> more ergonomically correct with simpler controls than the 2017 Honda Oddity
> van that was destined for the used car market before COVID-19 hit. The
> Sprinter is MUCH more van for the $10K price difference, way more room with
> similar fuel economy! It’s averaging 18MPG just like the Honda, and it
> should get better as it breaks in. It has no problem getting as high as
> 22.6MPG on mostly highway drives, probably capable of mid 20’s on a long
> hwy trip.
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 2019 Sprinter, 750 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard still in hibernation
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Apr 24, 2020, at 7:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That is what your new MB's look like under the hood.
> >
> >> On 4/24/2020 9:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
> >> Is that some gay fwd toy?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1989 Mercedes 300E 4 door Project car

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Curt Raymond  writes:

> Of 5 MB's I've had only 2 had working AC and neither of those was very
> good. I never had cars good enough to invest the time/money into
> getting the AC working correctly...

Thats about how I feel. Too much money and effort for the value of the
vehicle. I'm pretty used to just not having it. Gets a little sticky in
July and August but it's not intolerable.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: A little humor

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The wads are really thin and flexible. The gas sealing in black powder guns is 
done with a cardboard wad over the powder (the "over powder wad"). Black powder 
melts plastic wads if you don't protect them, makes a terrible mess.
I dunno if a 3D printer could make something that would work, probably? It'd be 
cool if you could use a card wad as the base.
-Curt

On Saturday, April 25, 2020, 6:11:33 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Greg's reply/suggestion made me wonder if you could 3D print the wads for
the muzzle loading shotgun? Is there a material that can be "printed" that
wouldn't melt in the barrel? Perhaps a layer of cardboard between the power
and the wad?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:53 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A moose once bit my sister.
> Actually weirder than that. A few weeks ago I ordered some shotgun wads
> from Ballistic Products. I got a confirmation of the order but no
> confirmation of shipping and then the order looked really weird, zero
> dollars billed. Anyway I waited a couple days and sent them an email. They
> replied "Unfortunately, our system automatically removes reloading
> components from orders with a Massachusetts shipping address as we are
> currently only able to ship to 01 or 07 FFL holders in Massachusetts or out
> of state addresses."
> Which is bollocks, theres no reason they can't ship wads here. I've got
> another supplier that has sent me all manner of bullets no problem at all.
> For reference shotgun wads are little plastic cylinders that hold the bird
> shot away from the powder. I specifically wanted some to try in my
> muzzleloading shotgun and Ballistic carries a type its hard to get
> elsewhere.
> Anyway today their catalog arrived, 75 pages of things I can't buy. I've
> never gotten their catalog before...
>
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Rear Shocks

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

That  E420 sounds like,a great addition to your stable.  IMHO it is best of
all worlds a w124 with m119.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 9:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Got some momentum going and don’t want to lose it. That and I need
> everything else caught up before the E420 shows up and gobbles up all my
> time.
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: June 1

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The 3d printer idea is a good one. I've got some sabot rounds for my .54, I 
think they use .44 cal bullets. I think .50 caliber uses .40 caliber bullets. 
There is, of course, already a design on Thingiverse.
-Curt

On Saturday, April 25, 2020, 6:02:24 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Those look like handgun rounds. Might they be useable in a BP rifle with a 
plastic sabot? I wonder if such sabots could be 3D printed, if none are 
commercially available.

I do see odd lots like this on gunbroker. That would be the place to sell IMO.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] June 1

 Not roundball, these are hollow point jacketed bullets.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KtJFLWtK5aRcmnoH7


    On Friday, April 24, 2020, 8:33:38 AM EDT, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Thu, April 23, 2020 12:01 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>  I don't suppose any of you need
> any .43 caliber 200 grain bullets?

0 buckshot for reloading 10ga or 3.5" 12ga?
Put it up on eBay as slingshot ammo?
Put it on Gunbroker as muzzle loader round ball?

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1989 Mercedes 300E 4 door Project car

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Interestingly Angie's '05 Gold has "ice cold AC". I haven't tried the cooler 
on the 2010 RAM yet this year but it worked last year. My '03 Ranger cooled 
well when we got rid of it in 2014. My '98 Jetta would hold a charge for a few 
months but never made any cold air. I guessed the valves in the compressor were 
bad. My '96 Dakota's AC failed at either the 9 or 10 year mark, I can't 
remember exactly. It blew all the refrigerant out of the evaporator all at once 
on a hot day in late May returning from camp in heavy traffic...
Of 5 MB's I've had only 2 had working AC and neither of those was very good. I 
never had cars good enough to invest the time/money into getting the AC working 
correctly...
-Curt

On Saturday, April 25, 2020, 3:03:58 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I was being a little sarcastic in my question. In my experience any
"original" A/C system much more than about 10 years old will have
significant leaks. My W123 A/C leaks out in about a week after a charge,
and a good local MB indy here narrowed it down to the evaporator. My '04
Nissan won't hold a charge as of last summer. My long departed A2 Jetta
gave it up after about 7 years. The '06 Honda is still OK knock on wood.

Almost any 10+ year old car I see advertised at a price I'd consider
interesting has the standard "AC needs a charge" line and we all know
what that really means.

Allan


Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> The ones that were affected by the dissimilar metals cracks were the all W124 
> and some W140 (up to 1995), possibly the early R129s, I’m not sure about 
> them. Anything else should be OK.
>
> -D
>
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> I would me more concerend about the AC, since this is a model that is known 
>>> for the failing evaporator that is a 22-25 hour job to R
>> 
>> Which models are not known for failing evaporators?
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 78 300CD

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes my 82 300CD shifted wonkily & fred moir said to change,filter & fluid
&  drive 10k miles. At 5k miles after change it shifts,fine about 90% of
the time. Thank you Fred.
Givec it a try. Is,that a,722.4?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> Begin forwarded message:
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> > From: Buggered Benzmail 
> > Date: April 25, 2020 at 6:22:02 PM EDT
> > To: Mercedes List 
> > Subject: 78 300CD
> >
> > Bled the new brakes (thanks Curley and Max!), rinsed it off and took it
> out for a spin, first time since I had it. Runs pretty well, started right
> up. Transmission was shifting a little funny, I have a new filter kit so
> can change it soon. Sweet ride!
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Rear Shocks

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got some momentum going and don’t want to lose it. That and I need everything 
else caught up before the E420 shows up and gobbles up all my time.

-D


> On Apr 25, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Attaboy Dan.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:31 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> Changed the rear shocks on the SL500 this afternoon. Not a fun job, as the 
> top mount is behind a bulkhead with a hole about 3-1/2” in diameter to access 
> them. Thank goodness for ratcheting box end wrenches it went pretty quickly, 
> maybe 30 minutes a side. Took me almost as long to remove all the covers and 
> carpet as it did to do the work.
> 
> Old shocks were the originals from what I could tell. Mercedes parts, paint 
> marks from assembly or so it appeared.
> 
> Tomorrow I think I’m going to tackle the S210 wagon fuel filter.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] This is what you have to look forward to in 15-20 years when all the 124s and 210s are gone

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I am reminded that yesterday I had to go into the office. I took it slow to 
see what my 2015 Jetta TDI is capable of. The 60 miles in returned just over 
58mpg, the return got just over 55. I kept the speed to no more than 65 mph and 
mostly 60. In fact I didn't think to try for a high mileage run until I was 
already 8 or 9 miles into it, I could probably do better if I worked at it the 
whole distance.
Interestingly on the way home I had a cop slide in behind me, I was doing 60 in 
a 55 zone. I was amazed to see other cars zipping past us as he was obviously 
running my plate. I had the cruise set and just kept it between the lines. 
After I came up clean he moved on an nabbed another slow driver 3 cars ahead of 
me...
-Curt

On Friday, April 24, 2020, 10:38:44 PM EDT, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I had the hood up on the Sprinter today. It also has plastic covers of various 
sizes and shapes, under which I’m sure lies a 3.0l V6 Diesel engine. Everyone 
who has driven her says that she is very easy to drive and does very well on 
the road. My niece said that the cabin is designed much more ergonomically 
correct with simpler controls than the 2017 Honda Oddity van that was destined 
for the used car market before COVID-19 hit. The Sprinter is MUCH more van for 
the $10K price difference, way more room with similar fuel economy! It’s 
averaging 18MPG just like the Honda, and it should get better as it breaks in. 
It has no problem getting as high as 22.6MPG on mostly highway drives, probably 
capable of mid 20’s on a long hwy trip.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter, 750 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der DoodleWagen
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard still in hibernation

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> 
> That is what your new MB's look like under the hood.
> 
>> On 4/24/2020 9:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
>> Is that some gay fwd toy?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] R129 Rear Shocks

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Attaboy Dan.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:31 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Changed the rear shocks on the SL500 this afternoon. Not a fun job, as the
> top mount is behind a bulkhead with a hole about 3-1/2” in diameter to
> access them. Thank goodness for ratcheting box end wrenches it went pretty
> quickly, maybe 30 minutes a side. Took me almost as long to remove all the
> covers and carpet as it did to do the work.
>
> Old shocks were the originals from what I could tell. Mercedes parts,
> paint marks from assembly or so it appeared.
>
> Tomorrow I think I’m going to tackle the S210 wagon fuel filter.
>
> -D
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[MBZ] R129 Rear Shocks

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Changed the rear shocks on the SL500 this afternoon. Not a fun job, as the top 
mount is behind a bulkhead with a hole about 3-1/2” in diameter to access them. 
Thank goodness for ratcheting box end wrenches it went pretty quickly, maybe 30 
minutes a side. Took me almost as long to remove all the covers and carpet as 
it did to do the work.

Old shocks were the originals from what I could tell. Mercedes parts, paint 
marks from assembly or so it appeared.

Tomorrow I think I’m going to tackle the S210 wagon fuel filter.

-D
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[MBZ] Fwd: 78 300CD

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Sent from iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Buggered Benzmail 
> Date: April 25, 2020 at 6:22:02 PM EDT
> To: Mercedes List 
> Subject: 78 300CD
> 
> Bled the new brakes (thanks Curley and Max!), rinsed it off and took it out 
> for a spin, first time since I had it. Runs pretty well, started right up. 
> Transmission was shifting a little funny, I have a new filter kit so can 
> change it soon. Sweet ride!
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1989 Mercedes 300E 4 door Project car

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Pumps and filter are not bad, I've been working on them since about 1983.  In 
fact, I changed the fuel pump in my old Audi Fox wagon in the parking lot  when 
I was checking out graduate school and it croaked, stranding me overnight.

You should check the current draw on the old pumps, if has been running high 
the relay gets flaky.

Only thing to watch is that you have good connections!  A loose or intermittent 
wire will drive you nuts.

On the sedans, there are two pumps in tandem, on the wagon they are in series 
and if one goes out you are dead.  Happened to me, what a pain.

If the pumps are good, check the hoses and boot between the air flow 
venturi/fuel dsitributor and throttle valve.  Serious leaks here, or at the 
hoses for the idle control valve, will result in hard starts warm, idle 
problems, and stalling.  Ditto on the last for a dirty idle control valve, it 
goes completely closed on coast and if it sticks much, the car stalls as you 
come to a stop.

Too many years dealing with this stuff, and I'm going to replace the injectors 
on the wagon next week while I'm on part time -- I'm hoping that will fix the 
mixture control issues and I will NOT have to rebuild the fuel distributor!
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1989 Mercedes 300E 4 door Project car

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Fuel pump and filter youtube video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p5EmSBhX8I

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 11:01 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> How hard is a fuel pump? What are the chances that’s all that is amiss?
>
> Bob R
>
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> > https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/7113521638.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A little humor

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Well, there you go, Curt needs a new toy!

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 5:32 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
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> Someone has done this with slugs for a breech loader.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 3:11 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: OK Don
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: A little humor
>
> Greg's reply/suggestion made me wonder if you could 3D print the wads for
> the muzzle loading shotgun? Is there a material that can be "printed" that
> wouldn't melt in the barrel? Perhaps a layer of cardboard between the power
> and the wad?
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:53 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > A moose once bit my sister.
> > Actually weirder than that. A few weeks ago I ordered some shotgun wads
> > from Ballistic Products. I got a confirmation of the order but no
> > confirmation of shipping and then the order looked really weird, zero
> > dollars billed. Anyway I waited a couple days and sent them an email.
> They
> > replied "Unfortunately, our system automatically removes reloading
> > components from orders with a Massachusetts shipping address as we are
> > currently only able to ship to 01 or 07 FFL holders in Massachusetts or
> out
> > of state addresses."
> > Which is bollocks, theres no reason they can't ship wads here. I've got
> > another supplier that has sent me all manner of bullets no problem at
> all.
> > For reference shotgun wads are little plastic cylinders that hold the
> bird
> > shot away from the powder. I specifically wanted some to try in my
> > muzzleloading shotgun and Ballistic carries a type its hard to get
> > elsewhere.
> > Anyway today their catalog arrived, 75 pages of things I can't buy. I've
> > never gotten their catalog before...
> >
> > -Curt
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> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A little humor

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Someone has done this with slugs for a breech loader.

Greg

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Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2020 3:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: A little humor

Greg's reply/suggestion made me wonder if you could 3D print the wads for
the muzzle loading shotgun? Is there a material that can be "printed" that
wouldn't melt in the barrel? Perhaps a layer of cardboard between the power
and the wad?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:53 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A moose once bit my sister.
> Actually weirder than that. A few weeks ago I ordered some shotgun wads
> from Ballistic Products. I got a confirmation of the order but no
> confirmation of shipping and then the order looked really weird, zero
> dollars billed. Anyway I waited a couple days and sent them an email. They
> replied "Unfortunately, our system automatically removes reloading
> components from orders with a Massachusetts shipping address as we are
> currently only able to ship to 01 or 07 FFL holders in Massachusetts or out
> of state addresses."
> Which is bollocks, theres no reason they can't ship wads here. I've got
> another supplier that has sent me all manner of bullets no problem at all.
> For reference shotgun wads are little plastic cylinders that hold the bird
> shot away from the powder. I specifically wanted some to try in my
> muzzleloading shotgun and Ballistic carries a type its hard to get
> elsewhere.
> Anyway today their catalog arrived, 75 pages of things I can't buy. I've
> never gotten their catalog before...
>
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Needs a hood, fender, bumper cover, light

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163 bumper covers are like $250 or less. Not that much to just slap one on and 
not fool with fixing it. 

It has a hitch too, that’s good

--FT
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> On Apr 25, 2020, at 6:56 AM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, April 24, 2020 10:11 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Worth messing with if its cheap?
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.copart.com/lot/42792509
> 
> How cheap are the bumper covers in your neighborhood?
> I'd probably leave the hood alone. Didn't even damage the grille.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A little humor

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Greg's reply/suggestion made me wonder if you could 3D print the wads for
the muzzle loading shotgun? Is there a material that can be "printed" that
wouldn't melt in the barrel? Perhaps a layer of cardboard between the power
and the wad?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:53 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A moose once bit my sister.
> Actually weirder than that. A few weeks ago I ordered some shotgun wads
> from Ballistic Products. I got a confirmation of the order but no
> confirmation of shipping and then the order looked really weird, zero
> dollars billed. Anyway I waited a couple days and sent them an email. They
> replied "Unfortunately, our system automatically removes reloading
> components from orders with a Massachusetts shipping address as we are
> currently only able to ship to 01 or 07 FFL holders in Massachusetts or out
> of state addresses."
> Which is bollocks, theres no reason they can't ship wads here. I've got
> another supplier that has sent me all manner of bullets no problem at all.
> For reference shotgun wads are little plastic cylinders that hold the bird
> shot away from the powder. I specifically wanted some to try in my
> muzzleloading shotgun and Ballistic carries a type its hard to get
> elsewhere.
> Anyway today their catalog arrived, 75 pages of things I can't buy. I've
> never gotten their catalog before...
>
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: June 1

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Those look like handgun rounds. Might they be useable in a BP rifle with a 
plastic sabot? I wonder if such sabots could be 3D printed, if none are 
commercially available.

I do see odd lots like this on gunbroker. That would be the place to sell IMO.

Greg

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Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:40 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] June 1

 Not roundball, these are hollow point jacketed bullets.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/KtJFLWtK5aRcmnoH7


On Friday, April 24, 2020, 8:33:38 AM EDT, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Thu, April 23, 2020 12:01 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>  I don't suppose any of you need
> any .43 caliber 200 grain bullets?

0 buckshot for reloading 10ga or 3.5" 12ga?
Put it up on eBay as slingshot ammo?
Put it on Gunbroker as muzzle loader round ball?

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Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 500 SEL project

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah, gotta love those lay folks.

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:25 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> It means the timing chain that exited through the oil pan and the valve
> covers locked up the engine and it "won't start".???
>
> Don't you just love how non mechanical people describe such things? ...
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 7:09 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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>
> > > What does "non-running" mean?  Don't they mean "won't start"?
> >
> > That's what you hope, anyway!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 500 SEL project

[G Mann via Mercedes]

It means the timing chain that exited through the oil pan and the valve
covers locked up the engine and it "won't start".???

Don't you just love how non mechanical people describe such things? ...

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 7:09 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> > What does "non-running" mean?  Don't they mean "won't start"?
>
> That's what you hope, anyway!
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Needs a hood, fender, bumper cover, light

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Point well taken.. however, I am a committed bottom feeder when it comes to
things like that.
After a closer look at the pics, I don't see the air bag was deployed.. so
perhaps a low speed impact... I do note front fender is tweaked at the
headlight, which is a replacement item.. fender should be straightened
easily.. might require removal to get good hammer and dolly access.

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 12:15 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Aftermarket W124 bumper cover is about $75, with shipping about the same
> amount. I wouldn’t bother trying to fix it. I would just replace the whole
> thing, it’s far easier to do.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 25, 2020, at 3:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > If you master plastic welding and the use of a heat gun, that bumper
> cover
> > is very repairable.
> > Even the missing pieces can be replaces with other plastic salvaged from
> > another damaged bumper cover. You just cut what you need to fit the
> "hole"
> > , shape it by heating with a heat gun [wear gloves and play the heat gun
> > across the part until it is pliable, then mold it to shape to fit.
> > Then weld it in. [Low power Harbor Freight soldering gun with a flattened
> > tip works just fine]
> > The bumper covers are all thermo mold plastic, just use thermo mold
> plastic
> > to replace what's missing. I use plastic tie wraps as filler welding rod
> > [they are also thermo mold plastic]
> >
> > When you are done welding, use the heat gun again [and gloves] to shape
> the
> > bumper to fit. Sand the welds smooth, fill with flexible body filler
> [there
> > is one to patch plastic bumpers] sand, fill, paint... done..  almost no
> > cost.
> >
> > It will need a tire and rim also, looks like the mini spare is on car
> now..
> > which tells me the wreck damaged the tire, perhaps the rim..
> >
> > Hood sheet metal will pull out with dent-less glue on pullers [make your
> > own with hot glue gun and some aluminum angle.. youtube how it's done..
> > Days work, looks like it should be good to go.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 6:33 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have one I have been looking for bumper covers for a while but have
> not
> >> found any cheap ones. I have not looked for a while though.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, April 24, 2020 10:11 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>  Worth messing with if its cheap?
> 
> 
>  https://www.copart.com/lot/42792509
> >>>
> >>> How cheap are the bumper covers in your neighborhood?
> >>> I'd probably leave the hood alone. Didn't even damage the grille.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Needs a hood, fender, bumper cover, light

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Aftermarket W124 bumper cover is about $75, with shipping about the same 
amount. I wouldn’t bother trying to fix it. I would just replace the whole 
thing, it’s far easier to do.

-D

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 3:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If you master plastic welding and the use of a heat gun, that bumper cover
> is very repairable.
> Even the missing pieces can be replaces with other plastic salvaged from
> another damaged bumper cover. You just cut what you need to fit the "hole"
> , shape it by heating with a heat gun [wear gloves and play the heat gun
> across the part until it is pliable, then mold it to shape to fit.
> Then weld it in. [Low power Harbor Freight soldering gun with a flattened
> tip works just fine]
> The bumper covers are all thermo mold plastic, just use thermo mold plastic
> to replace what's missing. I use plastic tie wraps as filler welding rod
> [they are also thermo mold plastic]
> 
> When you are done welding, use the heat gun again [and gloves] to shape the
> bumper to fit. Sand the welds smooth, fill with flexible body filler [there
> is one to patch plastic bumpers] sand, fill, paint... done..  almost no
> cost.
> 
> It will need a tire and rim also, looks like the mini spare is on car now..
> which tells me the wreck damaged the tire, perhaps the rim..
> 
> Hood sheet metal will pull out with dent-less glue on pullers [make your
> own with hot glue gun and some aluminum angle.. youtube how it's done..
> Days work, looks like it should be good to go.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 6:33 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have one I have been looking for bumper covers for a while but have not
>> found any cheap ones. I have not looked for a while though.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, April 24, 2020 10:11 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Worth messing with if its cheap?
 
 
 https://www.copart.com/lot/42792509
>>> 
>>> How cheap are the bumper covers in your neighborhood?
>>> I'd probably leave the hood alone. Didn't even damage the grille.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1989 Mercedes 300E 4 door Project car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It really depends. A lot of the issues with slow leaks revolve around the 
original hoses, which become porous as they age. Since they’re not barrier 
style hoses which are used now, refrigerant leaks out of them at the molecular 
level. You can have a tight system, but if your hoses are original, it will 
leak down over time.

The leak sealer I have used in systems like these is wicked awesome stuff, and 
short of a leak like a shaft seal, which nothing short of replacement can fix, 
it does a great job sealing the leaks or at least slowing them down 
significantly.

I have a 1997 SL500 that's never had the system touched in the seven years I’ve 
owned it and it still makes ice cubes like the day I bought it. The driver of 
the car wouldn’t tolerate anything less, either.

-D

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was being a little sarcastic in my question. In my experience any
> "original" A/C system much more than about 10 years old will have
> significant leaks. My W123 A/C leaks out in about a week after a charge,
> and a good local MB indy here narrowed it down to the evaporator. My '04
> Nissan won't hold a charge as of last summer. My long departed A2 Jetta
> gave it up after about 7 years. The '06 Honda is still OK knock on wood.
> 
> Almost any 10+ year old car I see advertised at a price I'd consider
> interesting has the standard "AC needs a charge" line and we all know
> what that really means.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> The ones that were affected by the dissimilar metals cracks were the all 
>> W124 and some W140 (up to 1995), possibly the early R129s, I’m not sure 
>> about them. Anything else should be OK.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>>> 
 I would me more concerend about the AC, since this is a model that is 
 known for the failing evaporator that is a 22-25 hour job to R
>>> 
>>> Which models are not known for failing evaporators?
>>> 
>>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Needs a hood, fender, bumper cover, light

[G Mann via Mercedes]

If you master plastic welding and the use of a heat gun, that bumper cover
is very repairable.
Even the missing pieces can be replaces with other plastic salvaged from
another damaged bumper cover. You just cut what you need to fit the "hole"
, shape it by heating with a heat gun [wear gloves and play the heat gun
across the part until it is pliable, then mold it to shape to fit.
Then weld it in. [Low power Harbor Freight soldering gun with a flattened
tip works just fine]
The bumper covers are all thermo mold plastic, just use thermo mold plastic
to replace what's missing. I use plastic tie wraps as filler welding rod
[they are also thermo mold plastic]

When you are done welding, use the heat gun again [and gloves] to shape the
bumper to fit. Sand the welds smooth, fill with flexible body filler [there
is one to patch plastic bumpers] sand, fill, paint... done..  almost no
cost.

It will need a tire and rim also, looks like the mini spare is on car now..
which tells me the wreck damaged the tire, perhaps the rim..

Hood sheet metal will pull out with dent-less glue on pullers [make your
own with hot glue gun and some aluminum angle.. youtube how it's done..
Days work, looks like it should be good to go.

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> I have one I have been looking for bumper covers for a while but have not
> found any cheap ones. I have not looked for a while though.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> >
> > On Fri, April 24, 2020 10:11 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Worth messing with if its cheap?
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.copart.com/lot/42792509
> >
> > How cheap are the bumper covers in your neighborhood?
> > I'd probably leave the hood alone. Didn't even damage the grille.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1989 Mercedes 300E 4 door Project car

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I was being a little sarcastic in my question. In my experience any
"original" A/C system much more than about 10 years old will have
significant leaks. My W123 A/C leaks out in about a week after a charge,
and a good local MB indy here narrowed it down to the evaporator. My '04
Nissan won't hold a charge as of last summer. My long departed A2 Jetta
gave it up after about 7 years. The '06 Honda is still OK knock on wood.

Almost any 10+ year old car I see advertised at a price I'd consider
interesting has the standard "AC needs a charge" line and we all know
what that really means.

Allan


Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> The ones that were affected by the dissimilar metals cracks were the all W124 
> and some W140 (up to 1995), possibly the early R129s, I’m not sure about 
> them. Anything else should be OK.
>
> -D
>
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> I would me more concerend about the AC, since this is a model that is known 
>>> for the failing evaporator that is a 22-25 hour job to R
>> 
>> Which models are not known for failing evaporators?
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1989 Mercedes 300E 4 door Project car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The ones that were affected by the dissimilar metals cracks were the all W124 
and some W140 (up to 1995), possibly the early R129s, I’m not sure about them. 
Anything else should be OK.

-D

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> I would me more concerend about the AC, since this is a model that is known 
>> for the failing evaporator that is a 22-25 hour job to R
> 
> Which models are not known for failing evaporators?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1989 Mercedes 300E 4 door Project car

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Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> I would me more concerend about the AC, since this is a model that is known 
> for the failing evaporator that is a 22-25 hour job to R

Which models are not known for failing evaporators?

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1989 Mercedes 300E 4 door Project car

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I bet it will end up needing a bunch of fuel system work 

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> 
> How hard is a fuel pump? What are the chances that’s all that is amiss?
> 
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1989 Mercedes 300E 4 door Project car

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Roger that. 

Bob R

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> On Apr 25, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dice roll, buddy. Fix one thing at a time and progress from there. Fuel pump 
> isn’t bad, under the car on the right rear if I recall correctly. Of course, 
> it could also be the infamous fuel pump relay and not the pump, too. Pumps 
> rarely fail from my experience, but it could happen. Failed fuel pump relays 
> are very common.
> 
> I would me more concerend about the AC, since this is a model that is known 
> for the failing evaporator that is a 22-25 hour job to R
> 
> Probably run away from this. Too many unknowns.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> How hard is a fuel pump? What are the chances that’s all that is amiss?
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1989 Mercedes 300E 4 door Project car

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Dice roll, buddy. Fix one thing at a time and progress from there. Fuel pump 
isn’t bad, under the car on the right rear if I recall correctly. Of course, it 
could also be the infamous fuel pump relay and not the pump, too. Pumps rarely 
fail from my experience, but it could happen. Failed fuel pump relays are very 
common.

I would me more concerend about the AC, since this is a model that is known for 
the failing evaporator that is a 22-25 hour job to R

Probably run away from this. Too many unknowns.

-D

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 2:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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> 
> How hard is a fuel pump? What are the chances that’s all that is amiss?
> 
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> 
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[MBZ] Fwd: 1989 Mercedes 300E 4 door Project car

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

How hard is a fuel pump? What are the chances that’s all that is amiss?

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Crappy A class back at the dealer, got my car back.

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep, that would be it. Brakes work much better now. 

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> In my old blue ‘05? I hear at least once a week how she misses that car. 
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Re: [MBZ] Crappy A class back at the dealer, got my car back.

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In my old blue ‘05? I hear at least once a week how she misses that car. 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Robot Vacuums

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That's why I run mine through a blender.

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 12:02 PM Karl Wittnebel 
wrote:

> Choking hazard
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 7:11 AM Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
>> Immune in what sense?  Can't digest them?  Break out in hives?
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 9:20 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> None of them seem immune to legos at all. Someone should sell a robot
>>> legovac.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:54 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I can totally understand the more autonomous one for sure, after having
>>> > the “dumb” one. You do have to somewhat babysit it, as if things aren’t
>>> > ideal in the environment it can easily get tangled up or stuck.
>>> >
>>> > That being said, it is amazing how it can get itself unstuck from
>>> various
>>> > situations.
>>> >
>>> > The cat hates it. She’s convinced it’s after her food.
>>> >
>>> > -D
>>> >
>>> > > On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Ok it was more then the Eufy. $449 on Scamazon with the vacuum base.
>>> It
>>> > > could be worth it, as it finds it's way back and empties itself. The
>>> base
>>> > > is also a vac so you really get two vacs.
>>> > >
>>> > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07S864GPW/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_8b5OEbBGK3DJB
>>> > >
>>> > > Anyway a bit more spendy to get bells and whistles but it requires a
>>> lot
>>> > > less intervention. It is an Amazon pick with four stars and 2500
>>> reviews,
>>> > > FWIW.
>>> > >
>>> > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 8:57 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> I want it.  Post a link, Karl.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:15 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>>> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> We have a dumb one and a smarter one. The dumb one is a Eufy. It
>>> > rumbles
>>> > >>> around randomly. Never finds it's way back to the charger. Very
>>> durable
>>> > >>> however. Amazing it still functions. Runs daily.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> The other one was a gift. It is a Shark. They seem to have
>>> favorable
>>> > >>> ratings. It has a stand with another vacuum in it to empty it's own
>>> > dust
>>> > >>> bin into a larger stationary bin. It learns the floor layout of the
>>> > house
>>> > >>> over time and optimizes the cleaning pattern. It runs
>>> systematically,
>>> > >> like
>>> > >>> you would till a field with a tractor and implement, or mow the
>>> lawn.
>>> > >>> Because it sort of knows where it is, it generally finds it's way
>>> back
>>> > to
>>> > >>> the stand to recharge. It sends me a text if it gets hung up
>>> somewhere,
>>> > >> or
>>> > >>> if the battery runs low. It occasionally speaks, which can be
>>> startling
>>> > >> if
>>> > >>> you didnt know it was under the couch beneath you.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Overall the shark does a better job and I'm not sure it was that
>>> much
>>> > >> more
>>> > >>> expensive than the eufy. It is several years newer however. I think
>>> > these
>>> > >>> devices are improving rapidly at the same price point. Hoping it
>>> has a
>>> > >> mute
>>> > >>> button, which it probably does in the phone app somewhere.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 4:38 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> > >>> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> >  I had asked for opinions and recommendations on robot vacuums a
>>> while
>>> > >>> back
>>> >  and come to the conclusion that this was not something I felt was
>>> > >>> justified.
>>> > 
>>> >  I reversed my position recently and bought one of these:
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B079QYYGF1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>>> > 
>>> >  My observations and opinion after a couple of weeks:
>>> > 
>>> >  All in all it works well. Occasionally gets tangled up in things,
>>> but
>>> > >> for
>>> >  the most part is pretty well autonomous. It definitely doesn’t
>>> replace
>>> >  sweeping, but goes a long way in keeping the “tumbleweeds” and
>>> such
>>> > >> gone
>>> >  that occur between sweepings. With hardwood floors and a cat, even
>>> > >> though
>>> >  she doesn’t shed a great deal, there’s a noticeable improvement in
>>> >  cleanliness from fur and dust bunnies.
>>> > 
>>> >  This particular model isn’t that “smart”, but it seems to do a
>>> pretty
>>> >  thorough job for the most part. It’s amazing to see it get under
>>> the
>>> > >>> table
>>> >  and into a forest of chair legs and find it’s way out.
>>> > 
>>> >  So call me a convert. This doesn’t replace sweeping, but augments
>>> it
>>> > to
>>> >  the point of cutting down the frequency somewhat.
>>> > 
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Re: [MBZ] New Addition to Dan's Acres

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On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 19:28:26 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Cool. Then my 400E was a sleeper. I never paid attention to the engine
> numbers. They’re probably both 112.974.

Actually, the '95 is probably an M119, like our '94 E420 was.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Robot Vacuums

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Choking hazard

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 7:11 AM Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Immune in what sense?  Can't digest them?  Break out in hives?
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 9:20 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> None of them seem immune to legos at all. Someone should sell a robot
>> legovac.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:54 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I can totally understand the more autonomous one for sure, after having
>> > the “dumb” one. You do have to somewhat babysit it, as if things aren’t
>> > ideal in the environment it can easily get tangled up or stuck.
>> >
>> > That being said, it is amazing how it can get itself unstuck from
>> various
>> > situations.
>> >
>> > The cat hates it. She’s convinced it’s after her food.
>> >
>> > -D
>> >
>> > > On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Ok it was more then the Eufy. $449 on Scamazon with the vacuum base.
>> It
>> > > could be worth it, as it finds it's way back and empties itself. The
>> base
>> > > is also a vac so you really get two vacs.
>> > >
>> > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07S864GPW/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_8b5OEbBGK3DJB
>> > >
>> > > Anyway a bit more spendy to get bells and whistles but it requires a
>> lot
>> > > less intervention. It is an Amazon pick with four stars and 2500
>> reviews,
>> > > FWIW.
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 8:57 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I want it.  Post a link, Karl.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:15 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> We have a dumb one and a smarter one. The dumb one is a Eufy. It
>> > rumbles
>> > >>> around randomly. Never finds it's way back to the charger. Very
>> durable
>> > >>> however. Amazing it still functions. Runs daily.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> The other one was a gift. It is a Shark. They seem to have favorable
>> > >>> ratings. It has a stand with another vacuum in it to empty it's own
>> > dust
>> > >>> bin into a larger stationary bin. It learns the floor layout of the
>> > house
>> > >>> over time and optimizes the cleaning pattern. It runs
>> systematically,
>> > >> like
>> > >>> you would till a field with a tractor and implement, or mow the
>> lawn.
>> > >>> Because it sort of knows where it is, it generally finds it's way
>> back
>> > to
>> > >>> the stand to recharge. It sends me a text if it gets hung up
>> somewhere,
>> > >> or
>> > >>> if the battery runs low. It occasionally speaks, which can be
>> startling
>> > >> if
>> > >>> you didnt know it was under the couch beneath you.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Overall the shark does a better job and I'm not sure it was that
>> much
>> > >> more
>> > >>> expensive than the eufy. It is several years newer however. I think
>> > these
>> > >>> devices are improving rapidly at the same price point. Hoping it
>> has a
>> > >> mute
>> > >>> button, which it probably does in the phone app somewhere.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 4:38 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> >  I had asked for opinions and recommendations on robot vacuums a
>> while
>> > >>> back
>> >  and come to the conclusion that this was not something I felt was
>> > >>> justified.
>> > 
>> >  I reversed my position recently and bought one of these:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B079QYYGF1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
>> > 
>> >  My observations and opinion after a couple of weeks:
>> > 
>> >  All in all it works well. Occasionally gets tangled up in things,
>> but
>> > >> for
>> >  the most part is pretty well autonomous. It definitely doesn’t
>> replace
>> >  sweeping, but goes a long way in keeping the “tumbleweeds” and such
>> > >> gone
>> >  that occur between sweepings. With hardwood floors and a cat, even
>> > >> though
>> >  she doesn’t shed a great deal, there’s a noticeable improvement in
>> >  cleanliness from fur and dust bunnies.
>> > 
>> >  This particular model isn’t that “smart”, but it seems to do a
>> pretty
>> >  thorough job for the most part. It’s amazing to see it get under
>> the
>> > >>> table
>> >  and into a forest of chair legs and find it’s way out.
>> > 
>> >  So call me a convert. This doesn’t replace sweeping, but augments
>> it
>> > to
>> >  the point of cutting down the frequency somewhat.
>> > 
>> >  -D
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Re: [MBZ] Holy Crack

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I test drove one once back in the '90s.  Nimble, yet surprisingly boring
for a 5 speed manual.  Now, they are almost extinctium.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Robot Vacuums

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Immune in what sense?  Can't digest them?  Break out in hives?

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 9:20 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> None of them seem immune to legos at all. Someone should sell a robot
> legovac.
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:54 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I can totally understand the more autonomous one for sure, after having
> > the “dumb” one. You do have to somewhat babysit it, as if things aren’t
> > ideal in the environment it can easily get tangled up or stuck.
> >
> > That being said, it is amazing how it can get itself unstuck from various
> > situations.
> >
> > The cat hates it. She’s convinced it’s after her food.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok it was more then the Eufy. $449 on Scamazon with the vacuum base. It
> > > could be worth it, as it finds it's way back and empties itself. The
> base
> > > is also a vac so you really get two vacs.
> > >
> > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07S864GPW/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_8b5OEbBGK3DJB
> > >
> > > Anyway a bit more spendy to get bells and whistles but it requires a
> lot
> > > less intervention. It is an Amazon pick with four stars and 2500
> reviews,
> > > FWIW.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 8:57 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I want it.  Post a link, Karl.
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:15 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> We have a dumb one and a smarter one. The dumb one is a Eufy. It
> > rumbles
> > >>> around randomly. Never finds it's way back to the charger. Very
> durable
> > >>> however. Amazing it still functions. Runs daily.
> > >>>
> > >>> The other one was a gift. It is a Shark. They seem to have favorable
> > >>> ratings. It has a stand with another vacuum in it to empty it's own
> > dust
> > >>> bin into a larger stationary bin. It learns the floor layout of the
> > house
> > >>> over time and optimizes the cleaning pattern. It runs systematically,
> > >> like
> > >>> you would till a field with a tractor and implement, or mow the lawn.
> > >>> Because it sort of knows where it is, it generally finds it's way
> back
> > to
> > >>> the stand to recharge. It sends me a text if it gets hung up
> somewhere,
> > >> or
> > >>> if the battery runs low. It occasionally speaks, which can be
> startling
> > >> if
> > >>> you didnt know it was under the couch beneath you.
> > >>>
> > >>> Overall the shark does a better job and I'm not sure it was that much
> > >> more
> > >>> expensive than the eufy. It is several years newer however. I think
> > these
> > >>> devices are improving rapidly at the same price point. Hoping it has
> a
> > >> mute
> > >>> button, which it probably does in the phone app somewhere.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 4:38 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> >  I had asked for opinions and recommendations on robot vacuums a
> while
> > >>> back
> >  and come to the conclusion that this was not something I felt was
> > >>> justified.
> > 
> >  I reversed my position recently and bought one of these:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B079QYYGF1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
> > 
> >  My observations and opinion after a couple of weeks:
> > 
> >  All in all it works well. Occasionally gets tangled up in things,
> but
> > >> for
> >  the most part is pretty well autonomous. It definitely doesn’t
> replace
> >  sweeping, but goes a long way in keeping the “tumbleweeds” and such
> > >> gone
> >  that occur between sweepings. With hardwood floors and a cat, even
> > >> though
> >  she doesn’t shed a great deal, there’s a noticeable improvement in
> >  cleanliness from fur and dust bunnies.
> > 
> >  This particular model isn’t that “smart”, but it seems to do a
> pretty
> >  thorough job for the most part. It’s amazing to see it get under the
> > >>> table
> >  and into a forest of chair legs and find it’s way out.
> > 
> >  So call me a convert. This doesn’t replace sweeping, but augments it
> > to
> >  the point of cutting down the frequency somewhat.
> > 
> >  -D
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Re: [MBZ] 1986 Mercedes 500 SEL project

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> What does "non-running" mean?  Don't they mean "won't start"?

That's what you hope, anyway!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] New Addition to Dan's Acres

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Is the front bumper right corner tore up underneath?

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> On Apr 25, 2020, at 6:09 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Front bumper is OE but may need to be freshened up. According to the car’s 
> history, it’s been pranged in the front twice and stolen once. All with the 
> original owner. The first front end wreck was within a few hundred miles of 
> delivery! Dealer appears to have done the work on both instances. No stickers 
> on the radiator support = giveaway there’s been front end damage in it’s past.
> 
> Not only has factory CD changer but original Becker and they both work. This 
> setup is easily modified for an auxiliary input as well.
> 
> With only 113k on the clock the back end might not be that bad. We’ll see.
> 
> Engine harness was replaced by Mercedes some years ago. Lower harness and ETA 
> not that I know of, but they’re probably OK.
> 
> Yes, it has ASR.
> 
> Headliner will need replacement. My headliner guy will do it for under $200 
> as a carry in. I need the headliner on the SL500 redone, too, so I’ll take 
> both in at the same time.
> 
> Yeah, I’ll be doing that. Saves the lenses if they’re not in bad shape to 
> start with.
> 
> Should be a fun project. I’m looking forward to it.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 25, 2020, at 1:05 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That is a good deal. Congrats.
>> 
>> The front bumper cover is about 700 from mercedes. I have one of the cheap
>> ones from Latvia sitting around if I would sell cheap.
>> 
>> Dont back into anything. The rear impact strip is nla and no aftermarket
>> parts here that I could find.
>> 
>> Factory CD changer is mint! I may need to find one. I wonder if it only
>> works with a Becker head unit.
>> 
>> They all need the fcp euro rear suspension overhaul.
>> 
>> Did they do the harnesses, or are you going to make one?
>> 
>> 16" SL wheels are a nice upgrade.
>> 
>> 160mph on 275hp?
>> 
>> Does it have ASR?
>> 
>> How is the headliner?
>> 
>> Amazon clear film on the headlights looks super.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 1:40 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bought a 1995 E420 from a guy in Columbus, OH today. Shipper is picking it
>>> up this afternoon/evening, should be here by Sunday or Monday.
>>> 
>>> Here are the details:
>>> 
>>> 113k on the clock
>>> 
>>> Delivery (1995) to 2015 lived in South Florida
>>> Seller bought it in 2015, took it to Columbus, OH
>>> Kept in a heated garage, washed whenever there was snow or ice on the roads
>>> Everything works, all original such as Becker radio, etc.
>>> Has issue with brake booster according to owner, sounds more like a vacuum
>>> issue
>>> Has intermittent ASR/ABS fault
>>> Needs driver’s seat bottom cover (tears)
>>> Owner says the paint on the roof is checkered, but I got some close up
>>> photos from him and if it is, I can barely see it. Might be a Martha thing.
>>> Two sets of wheels (snows and summer)
>>> 
>>> $1500 sale price
>>> 
>>> This deal came together so quickly it was scary. We were frantically
>>> trying to find a way to transfer money around this afternoon after finding
>>> out the shipper was on their way already. I wasn’t sure I was going to be
>>> able to get a Hagerty policy issued before it got on the road, but that’s
>>> done, too.
>>> 
>>> More upon arrival. I’ll get it on the SDS and see what’s up with the
>>> ASR/ABS. I’m convinced the brake booster issue he’s described is a cracked
>>> vacuum line.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Needs a hood, fender, bumper cover, light

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have one I have been looking for bumper covers for a while but have not found 
any cheap ones. I have not looked for a while though. 

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> On Apr 25, 2020, at 5:56 AM, Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, April 24, 2020 10:11 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Worth messing with if its cheap?
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.copart.com/lot/42792509
> 
> How cheap are the bumper covers in your neighborhood?
> I'd probably leave the hood alone. Didn't even damage the grille.
> 
> 
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[MBZ] Holy Crack

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/d/gladwyne-1986-mercedes-benz-300e/7107583598.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Robot Vacuums

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

None of them seem immune to legos at all. Someone should sell a robot
legovac.

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 3:54 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I can totally understand the more autonomous one for sure, after having
> the “dumb” one. You do have to somewhat babysit it, as if things aren’t
> ideal in the environment it can easily get tangled up or stuck.
>
> That being said, it is amazing how it can get itself unstuck from various
> situations.
>
> The cat hates it. She’s convinced it’s after her food.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ok it was more then the Eufy. $449 on Scamazon with the vacuum base. It
> > could be worth it, as it finds it's way back and empties itself. The base
> > is also a vac so you really get two vacs.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07S864GPW/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_8b5OEbBGK3DJB
> >
> > Anyway a bit more spendy to get bells and whistles but it requires a lot
> > less intervention. It is an Amazon pick with four stars and 2500 reviews,
> > FWIW.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 8:57 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I want it.  Post a link, Karl.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:15 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> We have a dumb one and a smarter one. The dumb one is a Eufy. It
> rumbles
> >>> around randomly. Never finds it's way back to the charger. Very durable
> >>> however. Amazing it still functions. Runs daily.
> >>>
> >>> The other one was a gift. It is a Shark. They seem to have favorable
> >>> ratings. It has a stand with another vacuum in it to empty it's own
> dust
> >>> bin into a larger stationary bin. It learns the floor layout of the
> house
> >>> over time and optimizes the cleaning pattern. It runs systematically,
> >> like
> >>> you would till a field with a tractor and implement, or mow the lawn.
> >>> Because it sort of knows where it is, it generally finds it's way back
> to
> >>> the stand to recharge. It sends me a text if it gets hung up somewhere,
> >> or
> >>> if the battery runs low. It occasionally speaks, which can be startling
> >> if
> >>> you didnt know it was under the couch beneath you.
> >>>
> >>> Overall the shark does a better job and I'm not sure it was that much
> >> more
> >>> expensive than the eufy. It is several years newer however. I think
> these
> >>> devices are improving rapidly at the same price point. Hoping it has a
> >> mute
> >>> button, which it probably does in the phone app somewhere.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 4:38 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  I had asked for opinions and recommendations on robot vacuums a while
> >>> back
>  and come to the conclusion that this was not something I felt was
> >>> justified.
> 
>  I reversed my position recently and bought one of these:
> 
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>
> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B079QYYGF1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
> 
>  My observations and opinion after a couple of weeks:
> 
>  All in all it works well. Occasionally gets tangled up in things, but
> >> for
>  the most part is pretty well autonomous. It definitely doesn’t replace
>  sweeping, but goes a long way in keeping the “tumbleweeds” and such
> >> gone
>  that occur between sweepings. With hardwood floors and a cat, even
> >> though
>  she doesn’t shed a great deal, there’s a noticeable improvement in
>  cleanliness from fur and dust bunnies.
> 
>  This particular model isn’t that “smart”, but it seems to do a pretty
>  thorough job for the most part. It’s amazing to see it get under the
> >>> table
>  and into a forest of chair legs and find it’s way out.
> 
>  So call me a convert. This doesn’t replace sweeping, but augments it
> to
>  the point of cutting down the frequency somewhat.
> 
>  -D
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Re: [MBZ] New Addition to Dan's Acres

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

It looked like part of the front bumper was gone under the right corner. I
had the same thing happen reversing across a pavement edge.

I think the headliner is such a big item in terms of the value of the car.

These are really good machines. The m119 is just great, electronics aside.
My mechanic had a 400e in with the motor out recently. Loss of oil pressure
caused the timing chain to skip. The owner was having them rebuild the
motor. Mind you it had over 250k on the clock. The guy had no intention of
getting rid of the car.



On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 4:09 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Front bumper is OE but may need to be freshened up. According to the car’s
> history, it’s been pranged in the front twice and stolen once. All with the
> original owner. The first front end wreck was within a few hundred miles of
> delivery! Dealer appears to have done the work on both instances. No
> stickers on the radiator support = giveaway there’s been front end damage
> in it’s past.
>
> Not only has factory CD changer but original Becker and they both work.
> This setup is easily modified for an auxiliary input as well.
>
> With only 113k on the clock the back end might not be that bad. We’ll see.
>
> Engine harness was replaced by Mercedes some years ago. Lower harness and
> ETA not that I know of, but they’re probably OK.
>
> Yes, it has ASR.
>
> Headliner will need replacement. My headliner guy will do it for under
> $200 as a carry in. I need the headliner on the SL500 redone, too, so I’ll
> take both in at the same time.
>
> Yeah, I’ll be doing that. Saves the lenses if they’re not in bad shape to
> start with.
>
> Should be a fun project. I’m looking forward to it.
>
> -D
>
> > On Apr 25, 2020, at 1:05 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That is a good deal. Congrats.
> >
> > The front bumper cover is about 700 from mercedes. I have one of the
> cheap
> > ones from Latvia sitting around if I would sell cheap.
> >
> > Dont back into anything. The rear impact strip is nla and no aftermarket
> > parts here that I could find.
> >
> > Factory CD changer is mint! I may need to find one. I wonder if it only
> > works with a Becker head unit.
> >
> > They all need the fcp euro rear suspension overhaul.
> >
> > Did they do the harnesses, or are you going to make one?
> >
> > 16" SL wheels are a nice upgrade.
> >
> > 160mph on 275hp?
> >
> > Does it have ASR?
> >
> > How is the headliner?
> >
> > Amazon clear film on the headlights looks super.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 1:40 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Bought a 1995 E420 from a guy in Columbus, OH today. Shipper is picking
> it
> >> up this afternoon/evening, should be here by Sunday or Monday.
> >>
> >> Here are the details:
> >>
> >> 113k on the clock
> >>
> >> Delivery (1995) to 2015 lived in South Florida
> >> Seller bought it in 2015, took it to Columbus, OH
> >> Kept in a heated garage, washed whenever there was snow or ice on the
> roads
> >> Everything works, all original such as Becker radio, etc.
> >> Has issue with brake booster according to owner, sounds more like a
> vacuum
> >> issue
> >> Has intermittent ASR/ABS fault
> >> Needs driver’s seat bottom cover (tears)
> >> Owner says the paint on the roof is checkered, but I got some close up
> >> photos from him and if it is, I can barely see it. Might be a Martha
> thing.
> >> Two sets of wheels (snows and summer)
> >>
> >> $1500 sale price
> >>
> >> This deal came together so quickly it was scary. We were frantically
> >> trying to find a way to transfer money around this afternoon after
> finding
> >> out the shipper was on their way already. I wasn’t sure I was going to
> be
> >> able to get a Hagerty policy issued before it got on the road, but
> that’s
> >> done, too.
> >>
> >> More upon arrival. I’ll get it on the SDS and see what’s up with the
> >> ASR/ABS. I’m convinced the brake booster issue he’s described is a
> cracked
> >> vacuum line.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] New Addition to Dan's Acres

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Front bumper is OE but may need to be freshened up. According to the car’s 
history, it’s been pranged in the front twice and stolen once. All with the 
original owner. The first front end wreck was within a few hundred miles of 
delivery! Dealer appears to have done the work on both instances. No stickers 
on the radiator support = giveaway there’s been front end damage in it’s past.

Not only has factory CD changer but original Becker and they both work. This 
setup is easily modified for an auxiliary input as well.

With only 113k on the clock the back end might not be that bad. We’ll see.

Engine harness was replaced by Mercedes some years ago. Lower harness and ETA 
not that I know of, but they’re probably OK.

Yes, it has ASR.

Headliner will need replacement. My headliner guy will do it for under $200 as 
a carry in. I need the headliner on the SL500 redone, too, so I’ll take both in 
at the same time.

Yeah, I’ll be doing that. Saves the lenses if they’re not in bad shape to start 
with.

Should be a fun project. I’m looking forward to it.

-D

> On Apr 25, 2020, at 1:05 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That is a good deal. Congrats.
> 
> The front bumper cover is about 700 from mercedes. I have one of the cheap
> ones from Latvia sitting around if I would sell cheap.
> 
> Dont back into anything. The rear impact strip is nla and no aftermarket
> parts here that I could find.
> 
> Factory CD changer is mint! I may need to find one. I wonder if it only
> works with a Becker head unit.
> 
> They all need the fcp euro rear suspension overhaul.
> 
> Did they do the harnesses, or are you going to make one?
> 
> 16" SL wheels are a nice upgrade.
> 
> 160mph on 275hp?
> 
> Does it have ASR?
> 
> How is the headliner?
> 
> Amazon clear film on the headlights looks super.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 1:40 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Bought a 1995 E420 from a guy in Columbus, OH today. Shipper is picking it
>> up this afternoon/evening, should be here by Sunday or Monday.
>> 
>> Here are the details:
>> 
>> 113k on the clock
>> 
>> Delivery (1995) to 2015 lived in South Florida
>> Seller bought it in 2015, took it to Columbus, OH
>> Kept in a heated garage, washed whenever there was snow or ice on the roads
>> Everything works, all original such as Becker radio, etc.
>> Has issue with brake booster according to owner, sounds more like a vacuum
>> issue
>> Has intermittent ASR/ABS fault
>> Needs driver’s seat bottom cover (tears)
>> Owner says the paint on the roof is checkered, but I got some close up
>> photos from him and if it is, I can barely see it. Might be a Martha thing.
>> Two sets of wheels (snows and summer)
>> 
>> $1500 sale price
>> 
>> This deal came together so quickly it was scary. We were frantically
>> trying to find a way to transfer money around this afternoon after finding
>> out the shipper was on their way already. I wasn’t sure I was going to be
>> able to get a Hagerty policy issued before it got on the road, but that’s
>> done, too.
>> 
>> More upon arrival. I’ll get it on the SDS and see what’s up with the
>> ASR/ABS. I’m convinced the brake booster issue he’s described is a cracked
>> vacuum line.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 173, Issue 160

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Cost was $649, doorstep to doorstep. Pretty much the going rate for open 
transport from the Midwest to Florida.

I have a transport broker I’ve used for some years. He’s very good, has always 
gotten me the best deals available and the shippers have always been top notch.

Michael Coote
AAA Auto Transport
786.348.2168
mich...@transportmyautomobile.com

Great guy, I highly recommend. Be sure to tell him I sent you. I get nothing 
from it other than the satisfaction of giving him more business.

-D

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:57 PM, Ronald Courcy via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Re shipping cost Ohio to Florida
> Don who did you use to contract for shipping  the w420e from Ohio to Florida?
> I had a w123cd shipped from Ohio to Rhode Island a few months ago at a cost 
> of $600. Thanks Ron Courcy
> 
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>   1. Re: New Addition to Dan's Acres (Buggered Benzmail)
>   2. Re: New Addition to Dan's Acres (Dan Penoff)
>   3. Re: Happy Birthday, Kaleb (Dwight Giles)
>   4. Re: New Addition to Dan's Acres (Dan Penoff)
>   5. Re: New Addition to Dan's Acres (Kaleb Striplin)
>   6. Re: New Addition to Dan's Acres (Buggered Benzmail)
>   7. Re: New Addition to Dan's Acres (Dan Penoff)
>   8. Re: June 1 (OK Don)
>   9. Re: New Addition to Dan's Acres (Dan Penoff)
>  10. Re: June 1 (Curt Raymond)
>  11. OT: A little humor (Curt Raymond)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 19:15:59 -0400
> From: Buggered Benzmail 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Addition to Dan's Acres
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> 
> Strong work. Hella deal. Looks really nice.
> 
> I don?t know how this compares to the 400E, power, torque etc. comparable?  
> Better?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 4:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Bought a 1995 E420 from a guy in Columbus, OH today. Shipper is picking it 
>> up this afternoon/evening, should be here by Sunday or Monday.
>> 
>> Here are the details:
>> 
>> 113k on the clock
>> 
>> Delivery (1995) to 2015 lived in South Florida
>> Seller bought it in 2015, took it to Columbus, OH
>> Kept in a heated garage, washed whenever there was snow or ice on the roads
>> Everything works, all original such as Becker radio, etc.
>> Has issue with brake booster according to owner, sounds more like a vacuum 
>> issue
>> Has intermittent ASR/ABS fault
>> Needs driver?s seat bottom cover (tears)
>> Owner says the paint on the roof is checkered, but I got some close up 
>> photos from him and if it is, I can barely see it. Might be a Martha thing.
>> Two sets of wheels (snows and summer)
>> 
>> $1500 sale price
>> 
>> This deal came together so quickly it was scary. We were frantically trying 
>> to find a way to transfer money around this afternoon after finding out the 
>> shipper was on their way already. I wasn?t sure I was going to be able to 
>> get a Hagerty policy issued before it got on the road, but that?s done, too.
>> 
>> More upon arrival. I?ll get it on the SDS and see what?s up with the 
>> ASR/ABS. I?m convinced the brake booster issue he?s described is a cracked 
>> vacuum line.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 19:18:39 -0400
> From: Dan Penoff 
> To: Okie Benz 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Addition to Dan's Acres
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> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=utf-8
> 
> Slightly better. 4.2 liters of displacement versus 4.0. Facelift model, 
> (94-95) so the last and best of the design and enhancements to the W124 
> chassis.
> 
> Just loaded on the truck about 30 minutes ago. Should be here on Sunday or 
> Monday.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2020, at 7:15 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Strong work. Hella deal. Looks really nice.
>> 
>> I don?t know how this compares to the 400E, power, torque etc. comparable?  
>> Better?
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent 

Re: [MBZ] OT: A little humor

[Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes]

On Fri, April 24, 2020 8:08 pm, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Actually now that I think of it I've bought bullets from a couple
> suppliers. You can't ship loaded ammunition into MA but there is no
> restriction on components.

The AG gave a bunch of online vendors the choice of signing a consent
decree and not doing business with MA customers or going through an
expensive court battle. AFAIK everyone thus threatened ran away as
intended.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Needs a hood, fender, bumper cover, light

[Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes]

On Fri, April 24, 2020 10:11 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Worth messing with if its cheap?
>
>
> https://www.copart.com/lot/42792509

How cheap are the bumper covers in your neighborhood?
I'd probably leave the hood alone. Didn't even damage the grille.



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Re: [MBZ] This is what you have to look forward to in 15-20 years when all the 124s and 210s are gone

[Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes]

On Fri, April 24, 2020 10:17 pm, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> Is that some gay fwd toy?

Yes, with about 80-90hp less than a 2.0L Chevy.
Makes about 3hp more on Premium than my (tuned) 1.4L Chevy makes on Regular.
Either that or MBZ underrated it (I hope).

https://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-benz/a-class/specs

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Robot Vacuums

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I can totally understand the more autonomous one for sure, after having the 
“dumb” one. You do have to somewhat babysit it, as if things aren’t ideal in 
the environment it can easily get tangled up or stuck.

That being said, it is amazing how it can get itself unstuck from various 
situations.

The cat hates it. She’s convinced it’s after her food.

-D

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ok it was more then the Eufy. $449 on Scamazon with the vacuum base. It
> could be worth it, as it finds it's way back and empties itself. The base
> is also a vac so you really get two vacs.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07S864GPW/ref=cm_sw_r_apa_i_8b5OEbBGK3DJB
> 
> Anyway a bit more spendy to get bells and whistles but it requires a lot
> less intervention. It is an Amazon pick with four stars and 2500 reviews,
> FWIW.
> 
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 8:57 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I want it.  Post a link, Karl.
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:15 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> We have a dumb one and a smarter one. The dumb one is a Eufy. It rumbles
>>> around randomly. Never finds it's way back to the charger. Very durable
>>> however. Amazing it still functions. Runs daily.
>>> 
>>> The other one was a gift. It is a Shark. They seem to have favorable
>>> ratings. It has a stand with another vacuum in it to empty it's own dust
>>> bin into a larger stationary bin. It learns the floor layout of the house
>>> over time and optimizes the cleaning pattern. It runs systematically,
>> like
>>> you would till a field with a tractor and implement, or mow the lawn.
>>> Because it sort of knows where it is, it generally finds it's way back to
>>> the stand to recharge. It sends me a text if it gets hung up somewhere,
>> or
>>> if the battery runs low. It occasionally speaks, which can be startling
>> if
>>> you didnt know it was under the couch beneath you.
>>> 
>>> Overall the shark does a better job and I'm not sure it was that much
>> more
>>> expensive than the eufy. It is several years newer however. I think these
>>> devices are improving rapidly at the same price point. Hoping it has a
>> mute
>>> button, which it probably does in the phone app somewhere.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 4:38 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I had asked for opinions and recommendations on robot vacuums a while
>>> back
 and come to the conclusion that this was not something I felt was
>>> justified.
 
 I reversed my position recently and bought one of these:
 
 
 
>>> 
>> https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B079QYYGF1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
 
 My observations and opinion after a couple of weeks:
 
 All in all it works well. Occasionally gets tangled up in things, but
>> for
 the most part is pretty well autonomous. It definitely doesn’t replace
 sweeping, but goes a long way in keeping the “tumbleweeds” and such
>> gone
 that occur between sweepings. With hardwood floors and a cat, even
>> though
 she doesn’t shed a great deal, there’s a noticeable improvement in
 cleanliness from fur and dust bunnies.
 
 This particular model isn’t that “smart”, but it seems to do a pretty
 thorough job for the most part. It’s amazing to see it get under the
>>> table
 and into a forest of chair legs and find it’s way out.
 
 So call me a convert. This doesn’t replace sweeping, but augments it to
 the point of cutting down the frequency somewhat.
 
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