Re: [MBZ] OT: Drag racing

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Damned woman drivers.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:17 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> Midwest nationals were more exciting than usual.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Commence!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

You do that with no fluid?

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> On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:01 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan,
> When you change  fluid in 4matic transfer case make sure you  take it out &
> do figure 8's.
> Documented online.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr
> 1982 300CD
> 2005 E320 4matic
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 1:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Started in on the new E320 last night. Got the car vacuumed out and
>> washed. Polished the headlights. Been cleaning carpets between meetings
>> today. Later on I’ll start in on the hard surfaces in the interior and get
>> the exterior clay’ed, polished and waxed. I need to pull a spark plug to
>> see if it needs plugs, and order a crank position sensor to proactively
>> replace the one that’s on the car.
>> 
>> Only thing I’ve discovered so far is that the front passenger seat
>> adjustment seems wonky. Push the bottom cushion button back and the seat
>> goes forward. Push it forward and it goes nowhere. Hit the memory buttons
>> and it moves all different directions, meaning the motors are good. I may
>> remove the buttons and spray some contact cleaner into the switch and see
>> if that helps.
>> 
>> Tomorrow I’ll take it out for a drive to pick up some fluids and then
>> change fluids in the differentials and hopefully the transfer case. If my
>> first dealer parts order comes in I’ll grab it and get some OE ATF for the
>> transfer case, as it has probably never been changed. I’ll drain and refill
>> the power steering as well.
>> 
>> I need to figure out what sort of paint was used to paint the rockers, as
>> the paint on them seems to be wearing off as I can see little bits of body
>> color coming through. It’s not the rock guard stuff, just paint. If anyone
>> knows what’s used let me know - it’s probably a Würth product of some sort.
>> 
>> Next week, new tires and new OE carpeted floor mats. It will go into daily
>> driver service at that time to qualify it for travel to Indiana in early
>> December.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Commence!

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Dan,
When you change  fluid in 4matic transfer case make sure you  take it out &
do figure 8's.
Documented online.

Dwight Giles Jr
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4matic
Wickford RI

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 1:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Started in on the new E320 last night. Got the car vacuumed out and
> washed. Polished the headlights. Been cleaning carpets between meetings
> today. Later on I’ll start in on the hard surfaces in the interior and get
> the exterior clay’ed, polished and waxed. I need to pull a spark plug to
> see if it needs plugs, and order a crank position sensor to proactively
> replace the one that’s on the car.
>
> Only thing I’ve discovered so far is that the front passenger seat
> adjustment seems wonky. Push the bottom cushion button back and the seat
> goes forward. Push it forward and it goes nowhere. Hit the memory buttons
> and it moves all different directions, meaning the motors are good. I may
> remove the buttons and spray some contact cleaner into the switch and see
> if that helps.
>
> Tomorrow I’ll take it out for a drive to pick up some fluids and then
> change fluids in the differentials and hopefully the transfer case. If my
> first dealer parts order comes in I’ll grab it and get some OE ATF for the
> transfer case, as it has probably never been changed. I’ll drain and refill
> the power steering as well.
>
> I need to figure out what sort of paint was used to paint the rockers, as
> the paint on them seems to be wearing off as I can see little bits of body
> color coming through. It’s not the rock guard stuff, just paint. If anyone
> knows what’s used let me know - it’s probably a Würth product of some sort.
>
> Next week, new tires and new OE carpeted floor mats. It will go into daily
> driver service at that time to qualify it for travel to Indiana in early
> December.
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2003 E320 Mercedes Benz $1000 Chandler

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 13:54:43 -0400
Dan Penoff via Mercedes  wrote:

> Sorry. I got this confused with the one in Chandler.

It is in Chandler -- Chandler, Arizona, that is.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes-Benz 300TE

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Green Whale for Max?
Mitch


https://vermont.craigslist.org/cto/d/burlington-mercedes-benz-300te/7206303724.html
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes-Benz 300TE

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Stick them in a barn for 10 years and get repaid with interest.

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[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes-Benz 300TE

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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Commence!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I was fixin to sell the 99E320 and of course the PS pump started groaning and 
the driver window started ignoring the Go Up command and the seat won’t go 
forward now. I think I got a new seat knackers switch for it, or Maybe that was 
the $500E300 I smashed. I guess I should go pull the switches and swap them. 

The Kumho tars I got for the $500E300 seemed pretty decent.  Got good reviews.  
I had a rebate coupon and delivered and mounted were maybe $350 for the set

--R
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> On Oct 15, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> Only thing I’ve discovered so far is that the front passenger seat 
>> adjustment seems wonky.
> 
> May need a reset? Kind of like resetting the windows and sunroof after a 
> battery disconnect.
> 
>> . I need to pull a spark plug to see if it needs plugs, and order a crank 
>> position sensor to proactively replace the one that’s on the car.
> 
> Plugs, wires, breather reseal, maybe valve cover gaskets, motor mounts, brake 
> flush, power steering flush, cabin filters, reset transmission for your 
> driving style...
> 
> I should make a checklist.
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Yesterday I couldn't even spell enjiener, today I are one

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:12 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
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> Engineers are born not made
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 8:43 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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>
> > On the other hand, my son self-taught on how to transplant a 6 liter
> > engine + megasquirt into his Mazda Miata.  I can barely change the oil
> and
> > only attempt "light" repairs/maintenance.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:47 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > The computer on those cars does what it can to help when they are
> > > overheated. As far as non-mechanically inclined children go, they drive
> > > Toyota's. I got tired of semi classic, but rusty benzes getting
> > destroyed.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > Sent: October 13, 2020 7:55 PM
> > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > Cc: astr...@indiana.edu
> > > Subject: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited
> > >
> > > Oldest boy was driving the Focus home tonight. Temperature got hot. He
> > > continued to drive. Temperature got hotter. He stopped and put what
> > > water he had in the reservoir (maybe a quart). He noted steam escaping
> > > from the left hand side of the engine. He got back in and drove home.
> > >
> > > I go out to try to refill the coolant, and now it's just pouring out
> > > around the flange of the thermostat housing.
> > >
> > > I swear I eyeballed the reservoir tank when I replaced the alternator a
> > > few weeks ago and it was fine.
> > >
> > > Hoping it's just a failed gasket. The zetec engine supposedly has some
> > > protection that will shut down cylinders to pump air through the engine
> > > if it's getting too hot. Hopefully that still works.
> > >
> > > I was rebuilding engines at age 16. This kid hardly understands how an
> > > engine works and doesn't seem interested to learn. Which is fine, not
> > > everyone is into that stuff, but it's a little weird how different he
> > > and I are.
> > >
> > > Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-10-15 13:05, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:


The $27 ebay one seems to be the same as the $20 Rock auto ones.


Rock will probaby make most of it up on the shipping charges.


Nothing bigger than an ignition key ships for less than $7.99 at Rock.

Searching for the 2003-2005 part number 1637300946 takes me to this at 
Amazon, which is temptingly cheap.

https://www.amazon.com/Evan-Fischer-EVA16772045193-Window-Regulator-Driver/dp/B009DJNA0Q

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Re: [MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Commence!

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>Only thing I’ve discovered so far is that the front passenger seat adjustment 
>seems wonky.

May need a reset? Kind of like resetting the windows and sunroof after a 
battery disconnect.

>. I need to pull a spark plug to see if it needs plugs, and order a crank 
>position sensor to proactively replace the one that’s on the car.

Plugs, wires, breather reseal, maybe valve cover gaskets, motor mounts, brake 
flush, power steering flush, cabin filters, reset transmission for your driving 
style...

I should make a checklist.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I’d buy that. I have a nearly new set of kumhos for it, the other stuff is no 
biggie. Offer 4 Bens and take it home, fix it up and flip it for $2k

--FT
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> On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:38 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> $350 for the car.
> $150 for an Amazon conductor plate, fluid, etc.
> $500 for tires.
> $0 electrical t/s (I do it for fun).
> $150 brakes.
> $500 for transport to Chicagoland.
> 
> $1650 total.
> No seat heaters, no sale.
> 
> If you live where it gets below 40 farenheight, once you've had heated seats, 
> they become a "need", not a "want".  I wonder what the chances of finding a 
> Florida car with heated seats is?
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: October 15, 2020 12:29 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!!
> 
> *"Transmission has been shifting strangely lately, probably needs an oil
> change. Just bought a new battery two weeks ago and now it won't start, so
> something is draining it. Needs tires and rear brakes."*
> 
> Transmission replacement or rebuild - $2500 (?)
> Electrical troubleshooting - $500 ?
> New Tires - $300 - 700
> New brakes - $200 - $800?
> 
> All that + $500 sales price = $4500, more or less.
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/lutz-mechanics-special-2000-mercedes/7214452902.html
>> <
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/lutz-mechanics-special-2000-mercedes/7214452902.html
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> The $27 ebay one seems to be the same as the $20 Rock auto ones.

Rock will probaby make most of it up on the shipping charges.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] low miles S320

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Because it's a Marzedees.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 1:54 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Unrealistic expectations. Like they paid that much for it when they bought
> it, or their mechanic/uncle/best friend, etc. told them it’s worth that
> much. Ot they’re looking at one of the car valuation sites and rating it as
> Extra Super Special Happy Good Good condition.
>
> Hagerty has a tendency to have inflated values for stuff, so maybe they
> looked there.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I always wonder what motivates a really high initial asking price,
> > considering that market value can be easily checked on KBB and similar
> > websites (which report a max $3K private party price for that car).
> >
> > Allan
> >
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> >
> >> Ask is a bit outlandish as it’s an S320. If it was an S500 maybe. On a
> good day, considering the miles and condition, it’s a $4k-$5k car.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/sellersburg-1995-mercedes-s-k-miles/7213048366.html
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I don't know when, if ever, I last opened that window. Driver's window 
gets used, pax front occasionally, rear popouts rarely.


Finding odd things at Rock Auto.
The cheap ones fit 1998-2002
The listings for my 2003 fit 1998-2005 but cost twice as much.
The $27 ebay one seems to be the same as the $20 Rock auto ones.


On 2020-10-15 12:30, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is
cheap and does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in
place, if so, better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to
pop them.



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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2003 E320 Mercedes Benz $1000 Chandler

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sorry. I got this confused with the one in Chandler.

-D

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I thought the car posted was in AZ?
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Hey, it's only Evansville, and you can take that fancy interstate they’ve 
>> been wanting to build for decades. I can’t forget all the trips I made from 
>> Indy to Evansville for business purposes that were a full day just to make 
>> the round trip. Ugh.
>> 
>> Also, while you’re there you can go across the river to Kentucky and get 
>> cheap smokes!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Same in Indiana, but unfortunately it's way to far away to seriously 
>>> consider.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:
>>> 
 We don't emissions test in Michigan.
 I'd drive that for $1000 if that's the only thing wrong with it.
 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] low miles S320

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Unrealistic expectations. Like they paid that much for it when they bought it, 
or their mechanic/uncle/best friend, etc. told them it’s worth that much. Ot 
they’re looking at one of the car valuation sites and rating it as Extra Super 
Special Happy Good Good condition.

Hagerty has a tendency to have inflated values for stuff, so maybe they looked 
there.

-D

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I always wonder what motivates a really high initial asking price,
> considering that market value can be easily checked on KBB and similar
> websites (which report a max $3K private party price for that car).
> 
> Allan
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Ask is a bit outlandish as it’s an S320. If it was an S500 maybe. On a good 
>> day, considering the miles and condition, it’s a $4k-$5k car.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/sellersburg-1995-mercedes-s-k-miles/7213048366.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

My local Ace Hardware had the right size rivets. Cheaper than the dealer, too.

-D

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-10-15 12:30, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is
>> cheap and does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in
>> place, if so, better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to
>> pop them.
> 
> Looks like the rivets are 4.8x8 (3/16x5/16).
> Youtube vids don't look any worse than W140.
> 
> I can get a no-name from the bay of fleas for $27, but the $20 fleabay 
> regulator I put in the W140 broke when I first ran the window up (motor 
> stronger than the regulator).
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[MBZ] Let the Martha'ing Commence!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Started in on the new E320 last night. Got the car vacuumed out and washed. 
Polished the headlights. Been cleaning carpets between meetings today. Later on 
I’ll start in on the hard surfaces in the interior and get the exterior 
clay’ed, polished and waxed. I need to pull a spark plug to see if it needs 
plugs, and order a crank position sensor to proactively replace the one that’s 
on the car.

Only thing I’ve discovered so far is that the front passenger seat adjustment 
seems wonky. Push the bottom cushion button back and the seat goes forward. 
Push it forward and it goes nowhere. Hit the memory buttons and it moves all 
different directions, meaning the motors are good. I may remove the buttons and 
spray some contact cleaner into the switch and see if that helps.

Tomorrow I’ll take it out for a drive to pick up some fluids and then change 
fluids in the differentials and hopefully the transfer case. If my first dealer 
parts order comes in I’ll grab it and get some OE ATF for the transfer case, as 
it has probably never been changed. I’ll drain and refill the power steering as 
well.

I need to figure out what sort of paint was used to paint the rockers, as the 
paint on them seems to be wearing off as I can see little bits of body color 
coming through. It’s not the rock guard stuff, just paint. If anyone knows 
what’s used let me know - it’s probably a Würth product of some sort.

Next week, new tires and new OE carpeted floor mats. It will go into daily 
driver service at that time to qualify it for travel to Indiana in early 
December.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yes you will need rivets or bodge up some bolts. I have to do the same on the 
$700ML500.   Amazon have all the bits not particularly expensive. 

 I found a step-by-step pdf of the process, not hard. I’m not home so can’t 
send a link but search for it? Might have been on benzworld. There are some 
youtubers too. 

Get some new door panel plastic rivets as they will break. 

--FT
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> On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is cheap and 
> does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in place, if so, 
> better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to pop them.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So, I'm driving home from town, and hear the window behind me whistle.
>> I tap the up button, nothing happens.
>> Tap down then up, and now the wind is a roar, because the window is open 5-6"
>> Get home, and I can lift the window a couple inches, let go and it drops 
>> back down.
>> 
>> Oh, boy, looks like a plastic pulley shattered when I wasn't even using the 
>> window, and then hitting the button made the cable fall off.
>> 
>> Anybody been there, done that with this chassis?
>> Any brands to buy or avoid for the regulator?
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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-10-15 12:30, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is
cheap and does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in
place, if so, better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to
pop them.


Looks like the rivets are 4.8x8 (3/16x5/16).
Youtube vids don't look any worse than W140.

I can get a no-name from the bay of fleas for $27, but the $20 fleabay 
regulator I put in the W140 broke when I first ran the window up (motor 
stronger than the regulator).


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2003 E320 Mercedes Benz $1000 Chandler

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I thought the car posted was in AZ?

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Hey, it's only Evansville, and you can take that fancy interstate they’ve 
> been wanting to build for decades. I can’t forget all the trips I made from 
> Indy to Evansville for business purposes that were a full day just to make 
> the round trip. Ugh.
>
> Also, while you’re there you can go across the river to Kentucky and get 
> cheap smokes!
>
> -D
>
>> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Same in Indiana, but unfortunately it's way to far away to seriously 
>> consider.
>> 
>> 
>> Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> We don't emissions test in Michigan.
>>> I'd drive that for $1000 if that's the only thing wrong with it.
>>> 
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] low miles S320

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I always wonder what motivates a really high initial asking price,
considering that market value can be easily checked on KBB and similar
websites (which report a max $3K private party price for that car).

Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Ask is a bit outlandish as it’s an S320. If it was an S500 maybe. On a good 
> day, considering the miles and condition, it’s a $4k-$5k car.
>
> -D
>
>> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/sellersburg-1995-mercedes-s-k-miles/7213048366.html
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!!

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Doesn’t look too bad

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> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/lutz-mechanics-special-2000-mercedes/7214452902.html
>  
> 
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

(Raises hand)

I just bought one. My 1999 E320 has bun warmers. You see a fair number of cars 
down here with them. I think my convertible (S500) is one of the dew R129s that 
didn’t have them as an option. They’re very common in convertibles.

-D


> On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> $350 for the car.
> $150 for an Amazon conductor plate, fluid, etc.
> $500 for tires.
> $0 electrical t/s (I do it for fun).
> $150 brakes.
> $500 for transport to Chicagoland.
> 
> $1650 total.
> No seat heaters, no sale.
> 
> If you live where it gets below 40 farenheight, once you've had heated seats, 
> they become a "need", not a "want".  I wonder what the chances of finding a 
> Florida car with heated seats is?
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: October 15, 2020 12:29 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: astrasfo...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!!
> 
> *"Transmission has been shifting strangely lately, probably needs an oil
> change. Just bought a new battery two weeks ago and now it won't start, so
> something is draining it. Needs tires and rear brakes."*
> 
> Transmission replacement or rebuild - $2500 (?)
> Electrical troubleshooting - $500 ?
> New Tires - $300 - 700
> New brakes - $200 - $800?
> 
> All that + $500 sales price = $4500, more or less.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/lutz-mechanics-special-2000-mercedes/7214452902.html
>> <
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/lutz-mechanics-special-2000-mercedes/7214452902.html
>>> 
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!!

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

$350 for the car.
$150 for an Amazon conductor plate, fluid, etc.
$500 for tires.
$0 electrical t/s (I do it for fun).
$150 brakes.
$500 for transport to Chicagoland.

$1650 total.
No seat heaters, no sale.

If you live where it gets below 40 farenheight, once you've had heated seats, 
they become a "need", not a "want".  I wonder what the chances of finding a 
Florida car with heated seats is?


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!!

*"Transmission has been shifting strangely lately, probably needs an oil
change. Just bought a new battery two weeks ago and now it won't start, so
something is draining it. Needs tires and rear brakes."*

Transmission replacement or rebuild - $2500 (?)
Electrical troubleshooting - $500 ?
New Tires - $300 - 700
New brakes - $200 - $800?

All that + $500 sales price = $4500, more or less.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/lutz-mechanics-special-2000-mercedes/7214452902.html
> <
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/lutz-mechanics-special-2000-mercedes/7214452902.html
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2003 E320 Mercedes Benz $1000 Chandler

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Absolutely not. Smoking killed my Dad at 56.

Just pointing out that there is a booming business across the river because of 
the cheap cigarettes (Kentucky is a major tobacco producer) and you see 
billboards all over Evansville about this.

-D

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Are you a smoker?  I wouldn't have guessed...
> 
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:28 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Hey, it's only Evansville, and you can take that fancy interstate they’ve 
> been wanting to build for decades. I can’t forget all the trips I made from 
> Indy to Evansville for business purposes that were a full day just to make 
> the round trip. Ugh.
> 
> Also, while you’re there you can go across the river to Kentucky and get 
> cheap smokes!
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Same in Indiana, but unfortunately it's way to far away to seriously 
> > consider.
> > 
> > 
> > Mitch Haley via Mercedes  > > writes:
> > 
> >> We don't emissions test in Michigan.
> >> I'd drive that for $1000 if that's the only thing wrong with it.
> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

$150 for 4 wheel brake pads + rotors?  How about calipers?

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:33 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Most likely a bad conductor plate. With fluid and parts you would be under
> $300.
>
> Tires, at least name brand ones, will set you back $500. I know, I’m
> looking for a set for my new to me E320 right now.
>
> Brakes with MB OE parts, including rotors, are $150 if that.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
> >
> > "Transmission has been shifting strangely lately, probably needs an oil
> change. Just bought a new battery two weeks ago and now it won't start, so
> something is draining it. Needs tires and rear brakes."
> >
> > Transmission replacement or rebuild - $2500 (?)
> > Electrical troubleshooting - $500 ?
> > New Tires - $300 - 700
> > New brakes - $200 - $800?
> >
> > All that + $500 sales price = $4500, more or less.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/lutz-mechanics-special-2000-mercedes/7214452902.html
> <
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/lutz-mechanics-special-2000-mercedes/7214452902.html>
> <
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/lutz-mechanics-special-2000-mercedes/7214452902.html
> <
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/lutz-mechanics-special-2000-mercedes/7214452902.html
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Most likely a bad conductor plate. With fluid and parts you would be under $300.

Tires, at least name brand ones, will set you back $500. I know, I’m looking 
for a set for my new to me E320 right now.

Brakes with MB OE parts, including rotors, are $150 if that.

-D

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 1:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> "Transmission has been shifting strangely lately, probably needs an oil 
> change. Just bought a new battery two weeks ago and now it won't start, so 
> something is draining it. Needs tires and rear brakes."
> 
> Transmission replacement or rebuild - $2500 (?)
> Electrical troubleshooting - $500 ?
> New Tires - $300 - 700
> New brakes - $200 - $800?
> 
> All that + $500 sales price = $4500, more or less.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/lutz-mechanics-special-2000-mercedes/7214452902.html
>  
> 
>  
>   
> >
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2003 E320 Mercedes Benz $1000 Chandler

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Are you a smoker?  I wouldn't have guessed...

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:28 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hey, it's only Evansville, and you can take that fancy interstate they’ve
> been wanting to build for decades. I can’t forget all the trips I made from
> Indy to Evansville for business purposes that were a full day just to make
> the round trip. Ugh.
>
> Also, while you’re there you can go across the river to Kentucky and get
> cheap smokes!
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Same in Indiana, but unfortunately it's way to far away to seriously
> consider.
> >
> >
> > Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:
> >
> >> We don't emissions test in Michigan.
> >> I'd drive that for $1000 if that's the only thing wrong with it.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If your use of the rear windows is limited, the generic Dorman is cheap and 
does the job. I don’t know if this is one that’s riveted in place, if so, 
better have some big rivets and the appropriate tool to pop them.

-D

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:36 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So, I'm driving home from town, and hear the window behind me whistle.
> I tap the up button, nothing happens.
> Tap down then up, and now the wind is a roar, because the window is open 5-6"
> Get home, and I can lift the window a couple inches, let go and it drops back 
> down.
> 
> Oh, boy, looks like a plastic pulley shattered when I wasn't even using the 
> window, and then hitting the button made the cable fall off.
> 
> Anybody been there, done that with this chassis?
> Any brands to buy or avoid for the regulator?
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2003 E320 Mercedes Benz $1000 Chandler

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Hey, it's only Evansville, and you can take that fancy interstate they’ve been 
wanting to build for decades. I can’t forget all the trips I made from Indy to 
Evansville for business purposes that were a full day just to make the round 
trip. Ugh.

Also, while you’re there you can go across the river to Kentucky and get cheap 
smokes!

-D

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Same in Indiana, but unfortunately it's way to far away to seriously consider.
> 
> 
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> We don't emissions test in Michigan.
>> I'd drive that for $1000 if that's the only thing wrong with it.
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

*"Transmission has been shifting strangely lately, probably needs an oil
change. Just bought a new battery two weeks ago and now it won't start, so
something is draining it. Needs tires and rear brakes."*

Transmission replacement or rebuild - $2500 (?)
Electrical troubleshooting - $500 ?
New Tires - $300 - 700
New brakes - $200 - $800?

All that + $500 sales price = $4500, more or less.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 1:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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>
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Re: [MBZ] low miles S320

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Ask is a bit outlandish as it’s an S320. If it was an S500 maybe. On a good 
day, considering the miles and condition, it’s a $4k-$5k car.

-D

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/sellersburg-1995-mercedes-s-k-miles/7213048366.html
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Re: [MBZ] low miles S320

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not paying 8 grand for a 25 y.o. car with an ugly dent in the left rear
corner.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 12:59 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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[MBZ] Kleb Car Alert!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/lutz-mechanics-special-2000-mercedes/7214452902.html
 


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Re: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Engineers are born not made

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 8:43 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> On the other hand, my son self-taught on how to transplant a 6 liter
> engine + megasquirt into his Mazda Miata.  I can barely change the oil and
> only attempt "light" repairs/maintenance.
>
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:47 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > The computer on those cars does what it can to help when they are
> > overheated. As far as non-mechanically inclined children go, they drive
> > Toyota's. I got tired of semi classic, but rusty benzes getting
> destroyed.
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Sent: October 13, 2020 7:55 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: astr...@indiana.edu
> > Subject: [MBZ] Mechnical interest/aptitude is not inherited
> >
> > Oldest boy was driving the Focus home tonight. Temperature got hot. He
> > continued to drive. Temperature got hotter. He stopped and put what
> > water he had in the reservoir (maybe a quart). He noted steam escaping
> > from the left hand side of the engine. He got back in and drove home.
> >
> > I go out to try to refill the coolant, and now it's just pouring out
> > around the flange of the thermostat housing.
> >
> > I swear I eyeballed the reservoir tank when I replaced the alternator a
> > few weeks ago and it was fine.
> >
> > Hoping it's just a failed gasket. The zetec engine supposedly has some
> > protection that will shut down cylinders to pump air through the engine
> > if it's getting too hot. Hopefully that still works.
> >
> > I was rebuilding engines at age 16. This kid hardly understands how an
> > engine works and doesn't seem interested to learn. Which is fine, not
> > everyone is into that stuff, but it's a little weird how different he
> > and I are.
> >
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[MBZ] low miles S320

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/sellersburg-1995-mercedes-s-k-miles/7213048366.html

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[MBZ] OT: Envisioning an 1800 lb. pumpkin

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Grown in MA, no less.  Required 50 gallons of H2O daily.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/14/lifestyle/1800-pound-pumpkin-descends-boston-public-market/
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2003 E320 Mercedes Benz $1000 Chandler

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Same in Indiana, but unfortunately it's way to far away to seriously consider.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> We don't emissions test in Michigan.
> I'd drive that for $1000 if that's the only thing wrong with it.
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[MBZ] W163 ML350 rear window regulator.

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

So, I'm driving home from town, and hear the window behind me whistle.
I tap the up button, nothing happens.
Tap down then up, and now the wind is a roar, because the window is open 
5-6"
Get home, and I can lift the window a couple inches, let go and it drops 
back down.


Oh, boy, looks like a plastic pulley shattered when I wasn't even using 
the window, and then hitting the button made the cable fall off.


Anybody been there, done that with this chassis?
Any brands to buy or avoid for the regulator?

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2003 E320 Mercedes Benz $1000 Chandler

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

We don't emissions test in Michigan.
I'd drive that for $1000 if that's the only thing wrong with it.

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[MBZ] Fwd: 2003 E320 Mercedes Benz $1000 Chandler

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Got the parts laying around? 

Bob R

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