date:20210112

Great, thanks. I’ll chase after it tomorrow 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 6:49 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Check for split hoses, missing or torn gas cap gasket, and cracked plastic 
> parts.  Any of them will give you fits, the tank does NOT vent out the cap 
> (or in, for that matter), all venting is through the evaporative control 
> system.
> 
> You will need to verify the operation of all the valves too, as failures can 
> cause vacuum leaks (which is what you have and is setting the CEL) -- also 
> make sure the charcoal cartridge is not plugged with crud, air gets drawn 
> through it to clear the gasoline out of the charcoal and if the vent surface 
> is clogged, you will have excess fuel since it's not being drawn off.
> 
> Big PITA, but when it works it works well.
> 
> I need to check the system on the TE, I'm pretty sure some of my running 
> issues are a clogged vent line.  Perfect size for mud daubers around here, 
> just like weedeaters.
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Re: [MBZ] Benz and VW stuff

 Your Golf is a PD engine right? Get a Stage I tune on it. I think I paid 
around $300 for it but boy it wakes that engine up...
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 6:43:35 PM EST, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Well, the turbo gave up on the Golf Friday on the way to work, so I had to 
borrow my brother's truck (he's unable to drive for a couple months, his 
pacemaker is acting up) and so there is a chore waiting for me next weekend.  
It has been flaky, but I was hoping I could live with intermittent low power 
and the CEL for a couple more months until the weather is better.

No such luck, gonna be out $1300 for a Borg-Warner turbo and manifold.  
Hopefully it won't be a giant pain to get it in and out.  Will have to clean 
the intercooler and replace all the 0-rings, which is a pain, have to remove 
the bumper cover and take out the right headlight to get to the intercooler.

Anyway, not really looking forward to that except that it will be nice to have 
the Golf back in full trim, it's a blast to drive when it's runnining well.  
Should boost the milage a bit too, it's been running 45-47 instead of the 
expected 50-52.

For Benz content, losing the Golf means I had to resurrect the half dead 300TE 
for a daily driver.  With my mom not being in good shape this fall, I never got 
around to putting in the new injectors and checking for a leaking fuel 
distributor plunger, very likely at 33 years and 270k miles.  I did get a new 
coil in it finally, and that helped a bunch, no more stalling and better idle, 
but nowhere near what it should be.  Now the fuel pressure leaks down over a 
few hours, very likely dripping injectors which also give the idle issues.  
I'll be checking the idle control valve hoses, they are probably due for 
replacement again, third time since I got the car.  Darned things split down 
the mold seam and give all sorts of vacuum leak issues.

Today's project was to replace the riv-nuts for the license plate -- the screws 
were a wild assortment from when I got the car, and now that Indiana goes 5 or 
6 years on plates, they were all rusted firmly in place and spun the riv-nuts.  
Had to grind them out and find more -- at $6 each! -- to get the plate on it.  
Finally found a strong enough screw and used two washers and some grease to 
pull them in, but I have license plate properly attached now.

Starts hard, idles poorly, and the heat is erratic (I think the temp wheel 
rheostat is cracked on the solder joint -- if you push inward on it the temp 
controls just fine, otherwise it wanders all over), but it will get me to and 
from work for the next week or so.

Bought (another) new battery for the 300D too, may try to get that up and 
running, although I really need to reduce the fleet, it's only me now (Mom 
passed away just after Xmas at 97) and I really don't need one decent and two 
half junk cars.
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Re: [MBZ] carpet cleaning methods

Does the steamer kit come with a straight razor?

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 6:56 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-watt-steam-cleaner-kit-63042.html
>
> Looks interesting
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/12/21 6:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > Steam Shark
>
> --
> --FT
>
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https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-watt-steam-cleaner-kit-63042.html

Looks interesting

--FT

On 1/12/21 6:41 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Steam Shark


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Re: [MBZ] Blinking low fuel light and CEL in ML500

2021-01-12 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Check for split hoses, missing or torn gas cap gasket, and cracked plastic 
parts.  Any of them will give you fits, the tank does NOT vent out the cap (or 
in, for that matter), all venting is through the evaporative control system.

You will need to verify the operation of all the valves too, as failures can 
cause vacuum leaks (which is what you have and is setting the CEL) -- also make 
sure the charcoal cartridge is not plugged with crud, air gets drawn through it 
to clear the gasoline out of the charcoal and if the vent surface is clogged, 
you will have excess fuel since it's not being drawn off.

Big PITA, but when it works it works well.

I need to check the system on the TE, I'm pretty sure some of my running issues 
are a clogged vent line.  Perfect size for mud daubers around here, just like 
weedeaters.
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[MBZ] Benz and VW stuff

2021-01-12 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Well, the turbo gave up on the Golf Friday on the way to work, so I had to 
borrow my brother's truck (he's unable to drive for a couple months, his 
pacemaker is acting up) and so there is a chore waiting for me next weekend.  
It has been flaky, but I was hoping I could live with intermittent low power 
and the CEL for a couple more months until the weather is better.

No such luck, gonna be out $1300 for a Borg-Warner turbo and manifold.  
Hopefully it won't be a giant pain to get it in and out.  Will have to clean 
the intercooler and replace all the 0-rings, which is a pain, have to remove 
the bumper cover and take out the right headlight to get to the intercooler.

Anyway, not really looking forward to that except that it will be nice to have 
the Golf back in full trim, it's a blast to drive when it's runnining well.  
Should boost the milage a bit too, it's been running 45-47 instead of the 
expected 50-52.

For Benz content, losing the Golf means I had to resurrect the half dead 300TE 
for a daily driver.  With my mom not being in good shape this fall, I never got 
around to putting in the new injectors and checking for a leaking fuel 
distributor plunger, very likely at 33 years and 270k miles.  I did get a new 
coil in it finally, and that helped a bunch, no more stalling and better idle, 
but nowhere near what it should be.  Now the fuel pressure leaks down over a 
few hours, very likely dripping injectors which also give the idle issues.  
I'll be checking the idle control valve hoses, they are probably due for 
replacement again, third time since I got the car.  Darned things split down 
the mold seam and give all sorts of vacuum leak issues.

Today's project was to replace the riv-nuts for the license plate -- the screws 
were a wild assortment from when I got the car, and now that Indiana goes 5 or 
6 years on plates, they were all rusted firmly in place and spun the riv-nuts.  
Had to grind them out and find more -- at $6 each! -- to get the plate on it.  
Finally found a strong enough screw and used two washers and some grease to 
pull them in, but I have license plate properly attached now.

Starts hard, idles poorly, and the heat is erratic (I think the temp wheel 
rheostat is cracked on the solder joint -- if you push inward on it the temp 
controls just fine, otherwise it wanders all over), but it will get me to and 
from work for the next week or so.

Bought (another) new battery for the 300D too, may try to get that up and 
running, although I really need to reduce the fleet, it's only me now (Mom 
passed away just after Xmas at 97) and I really don't need one decent and two 
half junk cars.
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Re: [MBZ] carpet cleaning methods

2021-01-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

The best material I have found to remove nasty carpet stains is Woolite
Heavy Carpet Foam, and a nylon brush.
Spray it on out of the can, scrub it into the fabric of the carpet and let
it dry.  It dissolves and emulsifies "Carpet stuff". Then, aggressively
vacuum the carpet, repeat as necessary.
Follow up with a steam machine and vacuum the carpet dry [or nearly dry as
you can get it. The steam machine I use to good success is a hand held unit
that holds about 12 oz of water and makes lots of steam. The one I have is
a Vaporetto, I recall Shark or Steam Shark... something like that, sold on
TV for a while, looks identical.
Wet Dry shop vac to pull out any excess moisture. In AZ... lay in the sun
for a couple hours to dry your mileage may vary on that.


On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 1:19 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Curt, are you talking about the steam wand thingy he was using?
>
> I looked at the video - I was amazed at how much liquid he used when
> cleaning stuff. It was like he was flooding the carpets. That would take
> forever to dry, even with vacuuming the bulk of the liquid out.
>
> Maybe he doesn’t worry about it since it would freeze in a short time
> after it leaves his shop?
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Have you ever watched the Detail Geek on YouTube?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBraEwtYRQ
> > His cleanups can be pretty amazing. I'm astonished how dirty some people
> let their car get.
> > I'm considering buying a spot cleaner like his...
> > -Curt
> >
> >On Monday, January 11, 2021, 10:27:07 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> > I was thinking too that using a spray bottle with some cleaner and
> > working it with a brush would probably do well for the cleaning, then
> > using the big shop vac for the sucking would dry it out better than this
> > little thing I have.  I've done that on spots.  The spray bottle might
> > not like boiling water though, but maybe use one of the pump sprayers
> > for weed killer or pesticides.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 1/11/21 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> The rental thing wouldn’t be any better, IMHO. If your existing carpet
> cleaner has an upholstery setup (vacuum hose with sprayer) it’s just as
> effective.
> >>
> >> I’ve got a little one for doing cars and one thing I’ve found to be
> helpful is to use near boiling water in it.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:15 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have an ancient (30+yo) carpet/upholstery cleaning vac thing from
> Sears, works more or less but lacks some serious cleaning power, mostly the
> vacuum aspect but it does spray the cleaning solution.  I want to clean
> some carcarpets. Anyone used one of those things you rent from the hardware
> store?  Do they do any better?  Or what methods would you use?
> >>>
> >>> I see those pics of cars for sale where they do the alternating
> cleaning passes and get the stripes in the carpet, whatever they use seems
> to work well.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> --FT
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Blinking low fuel light and CEL in ML500

I put the scanner on and it gave me a P2013-002 code "Major leak in
purge system. Hose in system not connected or filler cap open P0455"

I did not go drive it again but I cleared the code, took the cap off and
tightened it on again, will drive again tomorrow and see what sorts
out. If not the filler cap (which I tightened before but got the code
again) I will have to check the purge system. Saw that a component can
go bad *

*Bapmic 1634700493 Fuel Tank Purge Vent Valve for Mercedes Benz W163
*https://www.benzworld.org/threads/fuel-light-blinking-but-i-have-1-2-a-tank-of-gas-any-ideas.1164496/

I guess anything in the purge line, a hose leaking or something, can
cause this fault. Will need some daylight to check it.

I used the $150 iCarsoft scanner to do all that. And while I had it
connected I also watched a bunch of real-time performance data from
various systems just while idling which is kinda cool, looks like
everything was working well which is comforting. It burns 2L/hr of fuel
at idle!

--FT

On 1/12/21 11:20 AM, Buggered Benzmail wrote:

I was driving the ML to an appointment and the low fuel light started blinking
with 3/4tank. Shut down and it went off, then started again after driving a bit
then CEL came on after a few more minutes. I checked the gas cap, it’s tight.
Not sure what else it could be or what the blinking low fuel light is about.

Anyone seen this? Seems to run OK. I’ll have to put the scanner on it when I
get home.

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] carpet cleaning methods

I got a Shark (I think) at Costco a coupla years ago, works well 
enough.  You can disconnect the long floor part and use the power unit 
alone for a flexible hose with attachments. Sort of a Dyson clone for 
less than half the price.


--FT

On 1/12/21 6:06 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

MIL had a cyclone-type handheld vac. Maybe by Dyson? Didn't care for the
styling as it looked like something out of the Jetsons, but it worked
well enough.

Allan

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:


Anybody know of a compact recharegable cordless stick vacuum for quick and
easy pickups?


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Re: [MBZ] carpet cleaning methods

2021-01-12 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

MIL had a cyclone-type handheld vac. Maybe by Dyson? Didn't care for the
styling as it looked like something out of the Jetsons, but it worked
well enough.

Allan

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> Anybody know of a compact recharegable cordless stick vacuum for quick and
> easy pickups?
>

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Anybody know of a compact recharegable cordless stick vacuum for quick and
easy pickups?

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 5:26 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> functionally that is pretty much like the old Sears unit I have, cleaner
> tank to spray from the business end, wet tank to suck up the nasty
> stuff.  I'll wait for a warm day and give it a try
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/12/21 4:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > I picked one of these up from the rich people’s neighborhood Facebook
> Marketplace group for $20 about a year ago:
> >
> > https://www.bissell.com/little-green-portable-carpet-cleaner-1400B.html
> 
> >
> > Works great with their cleaning solution. Nice, small, very portable,
> easy to operate and clean. I still might spot clean nasty stuff like grease
> or coffee with some Tuff Stuff spray foam first, but this carpet cleaner
> does a great job otherwise.
> >
> > Yeah, I ran through the video at 2x and didn’t have the audio on or I
> would have caught that… I’m still amazed at the amount of liquid he uses,
> though.
> >
> > Does he identify what he’s using on the cordless drill that looks like a
> polishing pad? I was wondering what that was.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:38 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >>
> >> I was talking about the vacuum thing. Its like a carpet shampooer but
> on a smaller scale.
> >>
> >> He talks in some of the videos about how he leaves the car open in his
> heated garage for several hours which dries it out. If you look at his
> website a full detail like in the video is $500+ which I can understand,
> its gotta take most of a day, then add several hours of drying...
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 3:19:35 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Curt, are you talking about the steam wand thingy he was using?
> >>
> >> I looked at the video - I was amazed at how much liquid he used when
> cleaning stuff. It was like he was flooding the carpets. That would take
> forever to dry, even with vacuuming the bulk of the liquid out.
> >>
> >> Maybe he doesn’t worry about it since it would freeze in a short time
> after it leaves his shop?
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Have you ever watched the Detail Geek on YouTube?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBraEwtYRQ <
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBraEwtYRQ>
> >>> His cleanups can be pretty amazing. I'm astonished how dirty some
> people let their car get.
> >>> I'm considering buying a spot cleaner like his...
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>> On Monday, January 11, 2021, 10:27:07 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I was thinking too that using a spray bottle with some cleaner and
> >>> working it with a brush would probably do well for the cleaning, then
> >>> using the big shop vac for the sucking would dry it out better than
> this
> >>> little thing I have.  I've done that on spots.  The spray bottle might
> >>> not like boiling water though, but maybe use one of the pump sprayers
> >>> for weed killer or pesticides.
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
> >>> On 1/11/21 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>  The rental thing wouldn’t be any better, IMHO. If your existing
> carpet cleaner has an upholstery setup (vacuum hose with sprayer) it’s just
> as effective.
> 
>  I’ve got a little one for doing cars and one thing I’ve found to be
> helpful is to use near boiling water in it.
> 
>  -D
> 
> > On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:15 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >
> > I have an ancient (30+yo) carpet/upholstery cleaning vac thing from
> Sears, works more or less but lacks some serious cleaning power, mostly the
> vacuum aspect but it does spray the cleaning solution.  I want to clean
> some carcarpets. Anyone used one of those things you rent from the hardware
> store?  Do they do any better?  Or what methods would you use?
> >
> > I see those pics of cars for sale where they do the alternating
> cleaning passes and get the stripes in the carpet, whatever they use seems
> to work well.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] carpet cleaning methods

functionally that is pretty much like the old Sears unit I have, cleaner
tank to spray from the business end, wet tank to suck up the nasty
stuff. I'll wait for a warm day and give it a try

--FT

On 1/12/21 4:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I picked one of these up from the rich people’s neighborhood Facebook
Marketplace group for $20 about a year ago:

https://www.bissell.com/little-green-portable-carpet-cleaner-1400B.html

Works great with their cleaning solution. Nice, small, very portable, easy to
operate and clean. I still might spot clean nasty stuff like grease or coffee
with some Tuff Stuff spray foam first, but this carpet cleaner does a great job
otherwise.

Yeah, I ran through the video at 2x and didn’t have the audio on or I would
have caught that… I’m still amazed at the amount of liquid he uses, though.

Does he identify what he’s using on the cordless drill that looks like a
polishing pad? I was wondering what that was.

-D

On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:38 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I was talking about the vacuum thing. Its like a carpet shampooer but on a
smaller scale.

He talks in some of the videos about how he leaves the car open in his heated
garage for several hours which dries it out. If you look at his website a full
detail like in the video is $500+ which I can understand, its gotta take most
of a day, then add several hours of drying...

-Curt

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 3:19:35 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
wrote:

Curt, are you talking about the steam wand thingy he was using?

I looked at the video - I was amazed at how much liquid he used when cleaning
stuff. It was like he was flooding the carpets. That would take forever to dry,
even with vacuuming the bulk of the liquid out.

Maybe he doesn’t worry about it since it would freeze in a short time after it
leaves his shop?

-D

On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Have you ever watched the Detail Geek on
YouTube?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBraEwtYRQ

His cleanups can be pretty amazing. I'm astonished how dirty some people let
their car get.
I'm considering buying a spot cleaner like his...
-Curt

On Monday, January 11, 2021, 10:27:07 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

I was thinking too that using a spray bottle with some cleaner and
working it with a brush would probably do well for the cleaning, then
using the big shop vac for the sucking would dry it out better than this
little thing I have. I've done that on spots. The spray bottle might
not like boiling water though, but maybe use one of the pump sprayers
for weed killer or pesticides.

--FT

On 1/11/21 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

The rental thing wouldn’t be any better, IMHO. If your existing carpet cleaner
has an upholstery setup (vacuum hose with sprayer) it’s just as effective.

I’ve got a little one for doing cars and one thing I’ve found to be helpful is
to use near boiling water in it.

-D

On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:15 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

I have an ancient (30+yo) carpet/upholstery cleaning vac thing from Sears,
works more or less but lacks some serious cleaning power, mostly the vacuum
aspect but it does spray the cleaning solution. I want to clean some
carcarpets. Anyone used one of those things you rent from the hardware store?
Do they do any better? Or what methods would you use?

I see those pics of cars for sale where they do the alternating cleaning passes
and get the stripes in the carpet, whatever they use seems to work well.

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Re: [MBZ] carpet cleaning methods

2021-01-12 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> I looked at the video - I was amazed at how much liquid he used when
> cleaning stuff. It was like he was flooding the carpets. That would
> take forever to dry, even with vacuuming the bulk of the liquid out.

Good shop vac or shampoo machine will extract almost all the water,
leaving the carpet just damp. Of course if there are thick layers of
padding etc underneath, that might retain some water for a while. I
would never do something like that in the wintertime -- do it on a hot
day so the car can sit out in the sun and bake dry afterwards.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

2021-01-12 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Be prepared to tear the top of the engine apart to replace the oil cooler seals 

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> On Jan 12, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The Bluetec engine is worth any trouble shooting hassles.  Amazing fuel
> economy and will last at least 2 million miles.
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:48 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m
>> not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no idea.
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and
>> SRS lights? If not, walk away.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
 What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
 
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>> Phoenix
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> azbob...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
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Re: [MBZ] carpet cleaning methods

 He sells them but I suspect they're available elsewhere too. If you watch any 
of the detail folks they all use those type of pads. Apparently there are 
different textures for how severe the cleaning needed is. I guess you want to 
use the softest that will do the job to prevent damage.
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 4:26:50 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I picked one of these up from the rich people’s neighborhood Facebook 
Marketplace group for $20 about a year ago:

https://www.bissell.com/little-green-portable-carpet-cleaner-1400B.html 


Works great with their cleaning solution. Nice, small, very portable, easy to 
operate and clean. I still might spot clean nasty stuff like grease or coffee 
with some Tuff Stuff spray foam first, but this carpet cleaner does a great job 
otherwise.

Yeah, I ran through the video at 2x and didn’t have the audio on or I would 
have caught that… I’m still amazed at the amount of liquid he uses, though.

Does he identify what he’s using on the cordless drill that looks like a 
polishing pad? I was wondering what that was.

-D

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:38 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I was talking about the vacuum thing. Its like a carpet shampooer but on a 
> smaller scale.
> 
> He talks in some of the videos about how he leaves the car open in his heated 
> garage for several hours which dries it out. If you look at his website a 
> full detail like in the video is $500+ which I can understand, its gotta take 
> most of a day, then add several hours of drying...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 3:19:35 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Curt, are you talking about the steam wand thingy he was using?
> 
> I looked at the video - I was amazed at how much liquid he used when cleaning 
> stuff. It was like he was flooding the carpets. That would take forever to 
> dry, even with vacuuming the bulk of the liquid out.
> 
> Maybe he doesn’t worry about it since it would freeze in a short time after 
> it leaves his shop?
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Have you ever watched the Detail Geek on 
> > YouTube?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBraEwtYRQ 
> > 
> > His cleanups can be pretty amazing. I'm astonished how dirty some people 
> > let their car get.
> > I'm considering buying a spot cleaner like his...
> > -Curt
> > 
> >    On Monday, January 11, 2021, 10:27:07 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:  
> > 
> > I was thinking too that using a spray bottle with some cleaner and 
> > working it with a brush would probably do well for the cleaning, then 
> > using the big shop vac for the sucking would dry it out better than this 
> > little thing I have.  I've done that on spots.  The spray bottle might 
> > not like boiling water though, but maybe use one of the pump sprayers 
> > for weed killer or pesticides.
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> > On 1/11/21 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> The rental thing wouldn’t be any better, IMHO. If your existing carpet 
> >> cleaner has an upholstery setup (vacuum hose with sprayer) it’s just as 
> >> effective.
> >> 
> >> I’ve got a little one for doing cars and one thing I’ve found to be 
> >> helpful is to use near boiling water in it.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:15 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I have an ancient (30+yo) carpet/upholstery cleaning vac thing from 
> >>> Sears, works more or less but lacks some serious cleaning power, mostly 
> >>> the vacuum aspect but it does spray the cleaning solution.  I want to 
> >>> clean some carcarpets. Anyone used one of those things you rent from the 
> >>> hardware store?  Do they do any better?  Or what methods would you use?
> >>> 
> >>> I see those pics of cars for sale where they do the alternating cleaning 
> >>> passes and get the stripes in the carpet, whatever they use seems to work 
> >>> well.
> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] carpet cleaning methods

I picked one of these up from the rich people’s neighborhood Facebook 
Marketplace group for $20 about a year ago:

https://www.bissell.com/little-green-portable-carpet-cleaner-1400B.html 


Works great with their cleaning solution. Nice, small, very portable, easy to 
operate and clean. I still might spot clean nasty stuff like grease or coffee 
with some Tuff Stuff spray foam first, but this carpet cleaner does a great job 
otherwise.

Yeah, I ran through the video at 2x and didn’t have the audio on or I would 
have caught that… I’m still amazed at the amount of liquid he uses, though.

Does he identify what he’s using on the cordless drill that looks like a 
polishing pad? I was wondering what that was.

-D

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:38 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I was talking about the vacuum thing. Its like a carpet shampooer but on a 
> smaller scale.
> 
> He talks in some of the videos about how he leaves the car open in his heated 
> garage for several hours which dries it out. If you look at his website a 
> full detail like in the video is $500+ which I can understand, its gotta take 
> most of a day, then add several hours of drying...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 3:19:35 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Curt, are you talking about the steam wand thingy he was using?
> 
> I looked at the video - I was amazed at how much liquid he used when cleaning 
> stuff. It was like he was flooding the carpets. That would take forever to 
> dry, even with vacuuming the bulk of the liquid out.
> 
> Maybe he doesn’t worry about it since it would freeze in a short time after 
> it leaves his shop?
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Have you ever watched the Detail Geek on 
> > YouTube?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBraEwtYRQ 
> > 
> > His cleanups can be pretty amazing. I'm astonished how dirty some people 
> > let their car get.
> > I'm considering buying a spot cleaner like his...
> > -Curt
> > 
> >On Monday, January 11, 2021, 10:27:07 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:  
> > 
> > I was thinking too that using a spray bottle with some cleaner and 
> > working it with a brush would probably do well for the cleaning, then 
> > using the big shop vac for the sucking would dry it out better than this 
> > little thing I have.  I've done that on spots.  The spray bottle might 
> > not like boiling water though, but maybe use one of the pump sprayers 
> > for weed killer or pesticides.
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> > On 1/11/21 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> The rental thing wouldn’t be any better, IMHO. If your existing carpet 
> >> cleaner has an upholstery setup (vacuum hose with sprayer) it’s just as 
> >> effective.
> >> 
> >> I’ve got a little one for doing cars and one thing I’ve found to be 
> >> helpful is to use near boiling water in it.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:15 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> I have an ancient (30+yo) carpet/upholstery cleaning vac thing from 
> >>> Sears, works more or less but lacks some serious cleaning power, mostly 
> >>> the vacuum aspect but it does spray the cleaning solution.  I want to 
> >>> clean some carcarpets. Anyone used one of those things you rent from the 
> >>> hardware store?  Do they do any better?  Or what methods would you use?
> >>> 
> >>> I see those pics of cars for sale where they do the alternating cleaning 
> >>> passes and get the stripes in the carpet, whatever they use seems to work 
> >>> well.
> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] cheap trashed Bama 03E320 $1900

It's a bargaining point. I forgot to pay his price only if he includes the
tools.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The screwdriver on the floor is not the best sign
>
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[MBZ] runs on potentially free waste vegetable oil from restaurants


1983 Mercedes-Benz 240D
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The screwdriver on the floor is not the best sign

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI DIAGNOSTIC COMPUTERS

In researching the $900E500 trans issue I ran across this in a SLK 
forum.  there is a lot of good detailed information about the systems.


https://www.slkworld.com/forums/das-star-coding-xentry-needed-for-new-versions.273/

https://www.slkworld.com/threads/is-vediamo-compatible-with-openport-2-0.558739/

https://www.slkworld.com/threads/das-xentry-cheap-alternative.539334/page-12

https://www.slkworld.com/threads/das-xentry-vediamo-cheap-alternative-enable-a-or-m-mode-for-free.564926/

It would almost be worth trying if I didn't have the other systems.  
Apparently the software is out there somewhere (I have not searched for 
it) to download and this $15 box or something like it can talk through 
the OBDII to all the systems if you can get the software.  It appears 
there might be some computer gyrations to actually get it running but 
who knows.


https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Wholesale-Openport-2-0-J2534-ECU_62453532312.html?spm=a2700.wholesale.deiletai6.2.79757403BdsvNn

Of course with the disclaimers...:

MB has three diagnostic systems. HHT, DAS, and Xentry. Sometimes the 
system can be referred to as Star, SDS, DAS, or Xentry. All three 
systems are included in the system. The HHT (Hand Held Terminal) system 
is the first generation and runs until the early 2000's, DAS (Diagnosis 
Assistance System) is the system in place until about 2012-2013 or so, 
and then Xentry has been in place since then.


Thank you!
You can start here


 DAS/STAR Coding Subsection.
 

This section is solely for coding advice using proprietary Mercedes Benz 
Star Diagnostic Systems (SDS/DAS/StarDiag/xentry ). Any 
links/recommendations/set-up advice etc. to/for Chinese/ebay systems 
will be removed, as these are often illegal clones, manufactured in 
breach of Mercedes...

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On 1/12/21 3:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

What Floyd says.

If you’re not going to do most of the work yourself, it would be a waste of 
money to invest in a STAR system. One of the cheaper handheld things can be 
helpful in narrowing problems down and making sure your mechanic doesn’t try 
and extract his monthly boat payment from you.

A properly equipped and configured STAR system will work on MBs from the mid 
1990s to at least 2012-2014. One other advantage is that in some of the later 
models, like the W211s, it also allows you to enable features that are 
otherwise locked down by the factory. However, that’s some high level stuff and 
not a place to be tinkering.

-D


On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I wf t through a Looking Glass once so maybe I count.

I bought a complete Star clone system off AliExpress for like $550. You can buy 
the little handheld systems like the iCarsoft for $150 and they do a lot but 
not everything, they will show most codes and such but might not be able to 
clear/reset all systems. Other handheld units that cost more can do more.

I think for working on anything from the 90s on you need a system of some sort, 
the Star clone is the best obviously. For that diesel you would probably need 
the Star clone.

The thing about this is that if you buy a “newer” (I.e. anything from the 
2000s) and don’t want to go broke paying a mech to sort it out every time you 
have some issue, the Star clone will more than pay for itself if you have the 
interest and aptitude to work on the vehicle.  Otherwise buy a Toyota or GM 
thing (will also have issues but less proprietary maybe).

--FT
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On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

I don’t know about mirror mortals, but regular folks can, yes. You’ll have to 
drop roughly $500-$800 for one. There are less expensive options, but they’re 
not as comprehensive and can’t always access all of the systems.

-D


On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

I’ll have to speak to my Indy I suppose. Can mirror mortals get the STAR system?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things you can 
figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get expensive.

-D


On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m not 
certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no idea.

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
lights? If not, walk away.

-D


On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:

Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?

Bob R

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From: nore...@craigslist.org
Date: January 12, 2021 at 7:37:27 AM MST

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

My indy was unable to fully diagnose the CEL on my 2014 GLK using his
handheld system (he's an MB certified tech who had worked at a local
dealership).  He could only hazard a guess that it was a bad sensor, but no
guarantee, so I took it to the dealer to avoid throwing money at the
problem.  The dealer's proprietary diagnostic computer revealed cracks in
both air charge hoses, which I had them replace.  This led to a huge
improvement in fuel economy and better overall performance, so I felt it
was worth the money.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 3:23 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What Floyd says.
>
> If you’re not going to do most of the work yourself, it would be a waste
> of money to invest in a STAR system. One of the cheaper handheld things can
> be helpful in narrowing problems down and making sure your mechanic doesn’t
> try and extract his monthly boat payment from you.
>
> A properly equipped and configured STAR system will work on MBs from the
> mid 1990s to at least 2012-2014. One other advantage is that in some of the
> later models, like the W211s, it also allows you to enable features that
> are otherwise locked down by the factory. However, that’s some high level
> stuff and not a place to be tinkering.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I wf t through a Looking Glass once so maybe I count.
> >
> > I bought a complete Star clone system off AliExpress for like $550. You
> can buy the little handheld systems like the iCarsoft for $150 and they do
> a lot but not everything, they will show most codes and such but might not
> be able to clear/reset all systems. Other handheld units that cost more can
> do more.
> >
> > I think for working on anything from the 90s on you need a system of
> some sort, the Star clone is the best obviously. For that diesel you would
> probably need the Star clone.
> >
> > The thing about this is that if you buy a “newer” (I.e. anything from
> the 2000s) and don’t want to go broke paying a mech to sort it out every
> time you have some issue, the Star clone will more than pay for itself if
> you have the interest and aptitude to work on the vehicle.  Otherwise buy a
> Toyota or GM thing (will also have issues but less proprietary maybe).
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I don’t know about mirror mortals, but regular folks can, yes. You’ll
> have to drop roughly $500-$800 for one. There are less expensive options,
> but they’re not as comprehensive and can’t always access all of the systems.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I’ll have to speak to my Indy I suppose. Can mirror mortals get the
> STAR system?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> > On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things
> you can figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get
> expensive.
> 
>  -D
> 
> > On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and
> I’m not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no
> idea.
> >
> > Bob R
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL
> and SRS lights? If not, walk away.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
> >>> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
> >>>
> >>> Bob R
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>
>  From: nore...@craigslist.org
>  Date: January 12, 2021 at 7:37:27 AM MST
>  To: azbob...@gmail.com
>  Subject: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500
> (OBO) - Phoenix
> 
>  
>  azbob...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
> 
>  2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) -
> Phoenix
> 
> 
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/d/phoenix-2007-mercedes-benz-ml-320-cdi/7254163343.html
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Re: [MBZ] carpet cleaning methods

 I was talking about the vacuum thing. Its like a carpet shampooer but on a 
smaller scale.
He talks in some of the videos about how he leaves the car open in his heated 
garage for several hours which dries it out. If you look at his website a full 
detail like in the video is $500+ which I can understand, its gotta take most 
of a day, then add several hours of drying...
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 3:19:35 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Curt, are you talking about the steam wand thingy he was using?

I looked at the video - I was amazed at how much liquid he used when cleaning 
stuff. It was like he was flooding the carpets. That would take forever to dry, 
even with vacuuming the bulk of the liquid out.

Maybe he doesn’t worry about it since it would freeze in a short time after it 
leaves his shop?

-D

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you ever watched the Detail Geek on 
> YouTube?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBraEwtYRQ
> His cleanups can be pretty amazing. I'm astonished how dirty some people let 
> their car get.
> I'm considering buying a spot cleaner like his...
> -Curt
> 
>    On Monday, January 11, 2021, 10:27:07 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> wrote:  
> 
> I was thinking too that using a spray bottle with some cleaner and 
> working it with a brush would probably do well for the cleaning, then 
> using the big shop vac for the sucking would dry it out better than this 
> little thing I have.  I've done that on spots.  The spray bottle might 
> not like boiling water though, but maybe use one of the pump sprayers 
> for weed killer or pesticides.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 1/11/21 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> The rental thing wouldn’t be any better, IMHO. If your existing carpet 
>> cleaner has an upholstery setup (vacuum hose with sprayer) it’s just as 
>> effective.
>> 
>> I’ve got a little one for doing cars and one thing I’ve found to be helpful 
>> is to use near boiling water in it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:15 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have an ancient (30+yo) carpet/upholstery cleaning vac thing from Sears, 
>>> works more or less but lacks some serious cleaning power, mostly the vacuum 
>>> aspect but it does spray the cleaning solution.  I want to clean some 
>>> carcarpets. Anyone used one of those things you rent from the hardware 
>>> store?  Do they do any better?  Or what methods would you use?
>>> 
>>> I see those pics of cars for sale where they do the alternating cleaning 
>>> passes and get the stripes in the carpet, whatever they use seems to work 
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

What Floyd says.

If you’re not going to do most of the work yourself, it would be a waste of 
money to invest in a STAR system. One of the cheaper handheld things can be 
helpful in narrowing problems down and making sure your mechanic doesn’t try 
and extract his monthly boat payment from you.

A properly equipped and configured STAR system will work on MBs from the mid 
1990s to at least 2012-2014. One other advantage is that in some of the later 
models, like the W211s, it also allows you to enable features that are 
otherwise locked down by the factory. However, that’s some high level stuff and 
not a place to be tinkering.

-D

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wf t through a Looking Glass once so maybe I count. 
> 
> I bought a complete Star clone system off AliExpress for like $550. You can 
> buy the little handheld systems like the iCarsoft for $150 and they do a lot 
> but not everything, they will show most codes and such but might not be able 
> to clear/reset all systems. Other handheld units that cost more can do more. 
> 
> I think for working on anything from the 90s on you need a system of some 
> sort, the Star clone is the best obviously. For that diesel you would 
> probably need the Star clone. 
> 
> The thing about this is that if you buy a “newer” (I.e. anything from the 
> 2000s) and don’t want to go broke paying a mech to sort it out every time you 
> have some issue, the Star clone will more than pay for itself if you have the 
> interest and aptitude to work on the vehicle.  Otherwise buy a Toyota or GM 
> thing (will also have issues but less proprietary maybe). 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t know about mirror mortals, but regular folks can, yes. You’ll have 
>> to drop roughly $500-$800 for one. There are less expensive options, but 
>> they’re not as comprehensive and can’t always access all of the systems.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ll have to speak to my Indy I suppose. Can mirror mortals get the STAR 
>>> system?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things you can 
 figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get expensive.
 
 -D
 
> On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m 
> not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no 
> idea. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and 
>> SRS lights? If not, walk away.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
>>> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

 This is more or less true for any car. I think I paid $250 for the VAG-COM 
cable to connect to my VWs and it definitely paid for itself several times. The 
computer is a tool useful for diagnosing a myriad of problems on newer cars. 
Its like a very particular wrench...
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 12, 2021, 3:17:17 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 I wf t through a Looking Glass once so maybe I count. 

I bought a complete Star clone system off AliExpress for like $550. You can buy 
the little handheld systems like the iCarsoft for $150 and they do a lot but 
not everything, they will show most codes and such but might not be able to 
clear/reset all systems. Other handheld units that cost more can do more. 

I think for working on anything from the 90s on you need a system of some sort, 
the Star clone is the best obviously. For that diesel you would probably need 
the Star clone. 

The thing about this is that if you buy a “newer” (I.e. anything from the 
2000s) and don’t want to go broke paying a mech to sort it out every time you 
have some issue, the Star clone will more than pay for itself if you have the 
interest and aptitude to work on the vehicle.  Otherwise buy a Toyota or GM 
thing (will also have issues but less proprietary maybe). 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I don’t know about mirror mortals, but regular folks can, yes. You’ll have 
> to drop roughly $500-$800 for one. There are less expensive options, but 
> they’re not as comprehensive and can’t always access all of the systems.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll have to speak to my Indy I suppose. Can mirror mortals get the STAR 
>> system?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things you can 
>>> figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get expensive.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m 
 not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no 
 idea. 
 
 Bob R
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
> lights? If not, walk away.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
>> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
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>>> To: azbob...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) - 
>>> Phoenix
>>> 
>>> 
>>> azbob...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
>>> 
>>> 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) - Phoenix
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] carpet cleaning methods

Curt, are you talking about the steam wand thingy he was using?

I looked at the video - I was amazed at how much liquid he used when cleaning 
stuff. It was like he was flooding the carpets. That would take forever to dry, 
even with vacuuming the bulk of the liquid out.

Maybe he doesn’t worry about it since it would freeze in a short time after it 
leaves his shop?

-D

> On Jan 11, 2021, at 1:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you ever watched the Detail Geek on 
> YouTube?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peBraEwtYRQ
> His cleanups can be pretty amazing. I'm astonished how dirty some people let 
> their car get.
> I'm considering buying a spot cleaner like his...
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, January 11, 2021, 10:27:07 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> I was thinking too that using a spray bottle with some cleaner and 
> working it with a brush would probably do well for the cleaning, then 
> using the big shop vac for the sucking would dry it out better than this 
> little thing I have.  I've done that on spots.  The spray bottle might 
> not like boiling water though, but maybe use one of the pump sprayers 
> for weed killer or pesticides.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 1/11/21 10:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> The rental thing wouldn’t be any better, IMHO. If your existing carpet 
>> cleaner has an upholstery setup (vacuum hose with sprayer) it’s just as 
>> effective.
>> 
>> I’ve got a little one for doing cars and one thing I’ve found to be helpful 
>> is to use near boiling water in it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 10:15 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have an ancient (30+yo) carpet/upholstery cleaning vac thing from Sears, 
>>> works more or less but lacks some serious cleaning power, mostly the vacuum 
>>> aspect but it does spray the cleaning solution.  I want to clean some 
>>> carcarpets. Anyone used one of those things you rent from the hardware 
>>> store?  Do they do any better?  Or what methods would you use?
>>> 
>>> I see those pics of cars for sale where they do the alternating cleaning 
>>> passes and get the stripes in the carpet, whatever they use seems to work 
>>> well.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> --FT
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

I wf t through a Looking Glass once so maybe I count. 

I bought a complete Star clone system off AliExpress for like $550. You can buy 
the little handheld systems like the iCarsoft for $150 and they do a lot but 
not everything, they will show most codes and such but might not be able to 
clear/reset all systems. Other handheld units that cost more can do more. 

I think for working on anything from the 90s on you need a system of some sort, 
the Star clone is the best obviously. For that diesel you would probably need 
the Star clone. 

The thing about this is that if you buy a “newer” (I.e. anything from the 
2000s) and don’t want to go broke paying a mech to sort it out every time you 
have some issue, the Star clone will more than pay for itself if you have the 
interest and aptitude to work on the vehicle.  Otherwise buy a Toyota or GM 
thing (will also have issues but less proprietary maybe). 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I don’t know about mirror mortals, but regular folks can, yes. You’ll have 
> to drop roughly $500-$800 for one. There are less expensive options, but 
> they’re not as comprehensive and can’t always access all of the systems.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ll have to speak to my Indy I suppose. Can mirror mortals get the STAR 
>> system?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things you can 
>>> figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get expensive.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m 
 not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no 
 idea. 
 
 Bob R
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
> lights? If not, walk away.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
>> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: nore...@craigslist.org
>>> Date: January 12, 2021 at 7:37:27 AM MST
>>> To: azbob...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) - 
>>> Phoenix
>>> 
>>> 
>>> azbob...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
>>> 
>>> 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) - Phoenix
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

I don’t know about mirror mortals, but regular folks can, yes. You’ll have to 
drop roughly $500-$800 for one. There are less expensive options, but they’re 
not as comprehensive and can’t always access all of the systems.

-D

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 2:33 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’ll have to speak to my Indy I suppose. Can mirror mortals get the STAR 
> system?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things you can 
>> figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get expensive.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m not 
>>> certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no idea. 
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
 lights? If not, walk away.
 
 -D
 
> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: nore...@craigslist.org
>> Date: January 12, 2021 at 7:37:27 AM MST
>> To: azbob...@gmail.com
>> Subject: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) - 
>> Phoenix
>> 
>> 
>> azbob...@gmail.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
>> 
>> 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) - Phoenix
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

I’ll have to speak to my Indy I suppose. Can mirror mortals get the STAR system?

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> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things you can 
> figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get expensive.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m not 
>> certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no idea. 
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
>>> lights? If not, walk away.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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 Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
 What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
 
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Re: [MBZ] For the aviation enthusiast

There are a lot of old pilots

There are a lot of bold pilots

There aren’t many old bold pilots

--FT
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> On Jan 12, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 2021-01-12 12:02, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> How much would you attribute to the danger of the job vs the fact that
>> most of the pilots were young and too brave for their own good? - "10
>> feet tall and bullet proof"
> 
> Young John McCain had a lot of that. Having flag officers in the family may 
> have reinforced it.
> 
> Led to popularity with friends and girls (and graduation at the bottom of his 
> class) as a Cadet, led to a couple of written off planes (and IIRC an Italian 
> powerline) in training.
> 
> Some say it led to his becoming a POW. But I discount that a bit, I can't 
> imagine any military pilot skipping the SAM avoidance drills while flying 
> over enemy AA batteries because "they can't hit me".
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Re: [MBZ] For the aviation enthusiast


On 2021-01-12 12:02, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

How much would you attribute to the danger of the job vs the fact that
most of the pilots were young and too brave for their own good? - "10
feet tall and bullet proof"


Young John McCain had a lot of that. Having flag officers in the family 
may have reinforced it.


Led to popularity with friends and girls (and graduation at the bottom 
of his class) as a Cadet, led to a couple of written off planes (and 
IIRC an Italian powerline) in training.


Some say it led to his becoming a POW. But I discount that a bit, I 
can't imagine any military pilot skipping the SAM avoidance drills while 
flying over enemy AA batteries because "they can't hit me".


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Re: [MBZ] For the aviation enthusiast

2021-01-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

How much would you attribute to the danger of the job vs the fact that 
most of the pilots were young and too brave for their own good? - "10 
feet tall and bullet proof"


RB

On 12/01/2021 10:54 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

It should scare you.  When I was starting my career (not in Naval Aviation) the 
odds of surviving a 20 year career was 75%.  1/4 of naval aviators would die 
prior to reaching retirement.  Those are pretty steep odds for a voluntary 
force, in peace time.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jan 11, 2021 11:37:09 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes :


Carrier aviation amazes and scares me.

https://youtu.be/4gGMI8d3vLs?t=3

After watching flight ops on Kittyhawk for a few hours it was hard to believe 
nobody was killed.






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Re: [MBZ] For the aviation enthusiast

2021-01-12 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

It should scare you.  When I was starting my career (not in Naval Aviation) the 
odds of surviving a 20 year career was 75%.  1/4 of naval aviators would die 
prior to reaching retirement.  Those are pretty steep odds for a voluntary 
force, in peace time.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jan 11, 2021 11:37:09 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes :

> Carrier aviation amazes and scares me.
> 
> https://youtu.be/4gGMI8d3vLs?t=3
> 
> After watching flight ops on Kittyhawk for a few hours it was hard to believe 
> nobody was killed.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 5:32 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Normal approach to landing in the crop dusting business... no worries
>> Even a nice long runway, paved.
>> 
>> Heck, the runway isn't even up hill off the side of a mountain.
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 2:59 PM OK Don via Mercedes
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Looks fun!
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 2:42 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 https://fb.watch/2Ysm6MiwvR/
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

Without a STAR system it’s all a black box. There are some things you can 
figure out, but it might mean swapping parts, which can get expensive.

-D

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m not 
> certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no idea. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
>> lights? If not, walk away.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
>>> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
>>> 
>>> Bob R
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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 To: azbob...@gmail.com
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix


On 2021-01-12 11:48, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and
I’m not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have
no idea.


Who's your Mercedes mechanic?
How well does he know computerized diesels?

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

The Bluetec engine is worth any trouble shooting hassles.  Amazing fuel
economy and will last at least 2 million miles.

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> I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m
> not certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no idea.
>
> Bob R
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 12, 2021, at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and
> SRS lights? If not, walk away.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
> >> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
> >>
> >> Bob R
> >>
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> Phoenix
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

I’d be helping him with/teaching him to deal with those issues, and I’m not 
certain that it’s in my wheelhouse. Is that easy stuff? I have no idea. 

Bob R

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> So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
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> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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>> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
>> 
>> Bob R
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>>> Phoenix
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 13

Solar oyster barge to restore oyster harvesting in the Chesapeake Bay.
https://wtop.com/maryland/2020/11/could-solar-power-help-restore-marylands-oyster-population/

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 11:37 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I could roast some oystuhs and ball some skrimps
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Jan 12, 2021, at 10:12 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes hard to steam clams on Zoom.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 9:58 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> But no New England ambiance doing Zoom.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yes like maybe couple  times a year.
> >>>
> >>> Dwight Giles Jr.
> >>> Wickford RI
> >>>
>  On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 7:21 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Geez you know I hadn't thought of it before but we could have an open
>  Zoom meeting during an in person Q to allow viewers to have a
> >> look-see...
>  -Curt
> 
>    On Monday, January 11, 2021, 6:22:58 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
>  Mercedes  wrote:
> 
>  Alternate arrangements will be by Zoom and even Kaleb will have no
>  excuse for not attending.
> 
>  RB
> 
> > On 11/01/2021 5:07 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> > It is difficult  to know anything for certain now but in the spirit
> of
> > Bertha Benz, let's "give it a go" for our regular date September 11.
> >
> > Once again we  will be at Goddard State Park, 1095 Ives Road Warwick
> >> RI.
> > Sites 40-42. http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html
> > The entry requirements for visitors from other states keep changing
> so
>  that
> > is up in the air. As of  now we will need to wear masks and have
> social
> > distancing. (There are some neat MB masks on Amazon.)
> > Stay tuned for more details later this summer.
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1962 Mercedes Benz 220 Fintail for parts or restoration

I would hollow out the engine bay for a spa.
https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x89d134b2d9f0b1df%3A0x88d7bfa6394afbef!3m1!7e115!4shttps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPxy6AwQIIDDUro7sQ7wTAwCP_mSKxVsJIJC0fc%3Dw260-h175-n-k-no!5ssoftub%20-%20Google%20Search!15sCgIgAQ=!1e10!2sAF1QipPxy6AwQIIDDUro7sQ7wTAwCP_mSKxVsJIJC0fc=en

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> I would so totally rat rod that thing with a 606 and some newer suspension
> and a welder and cut off tool
>
> --FT
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> > Boy, this is random. Hecho en Mexico for Christ sake.
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 13

I could roast some oystuhs and ball some skrimps 

--FT
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> Yes hard to steam clams on Zoom.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 9:58 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> But no New England ambiance doing Zoom.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes like maybe couple  times a year.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
 On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 7:21 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Geez you know I hadn't thought of it before but we could have an open
 Zoom meeting during an in person Q to allow viewers to have a
>> look-see...
 -Curt
 
   On Monday, January 11, 2021, 6:22:58 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
 Mercedes  wrote:
 
 Alternate arrangements will be by Zoom and even Kaleb will have no
 excuse for not attending.
 
 RB
 
> On 11/01/2021 5:07 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> It is difficult  to know anything for certain now but in the spirit of
> Bertha Benz, let's "give it a go" for our regular date September 11.
> 
> Once again we  will be at Goddard State Park, 1095 Ives Road Warwick
>> RI.
> Sites 40-42. http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html
> The entry requirements for visitors from other states keep changing so
 that
> is up in the air. As of  now we will need to wear masks and have social
> distancing. (There are some neat MB masks on Amazon.)
> Stay tuned for more details later this summer.
> Dwight
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 2005 E320 4matic
> Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] ML 320 $500 - Was told that it ran but cannot get to start

How hard could it be to get running. Offer $300 and fool around with it a bit, 
drive it as a winter beater or flip it or part it out 

--FT
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> On Jan 12, 2021, at 11:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Seat cushion replacements are cheap.  The tire tread indicates little use.
> Floyd needs this.
> 
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>> 
>>> On 2021-01-12 07:59, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I’d offer $300 and take it, either get it running or parts. Doesn’t
>>> look half bad
>> 
>> I liked the interior color until I saw the right front seat.
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Re: [MBZ] ML 320 $500 - Was told that it ran but cannot get to start

Seat cushion replacements are cheap.  The tire tread indicates little use.
Floyd needs this.

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> On 2021-01-12 07:59, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> > I’d offer $300 and take it, either get it running or parts. Doesn’t
> > look half bad
>
> I liked the interior color until I saw the right front seat.
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[MBZ] Blinking low fuel light and CEL in ML500

I was driving the ML to an appointment and the low fuel light started blinking 
with 3/4tank. Shut down and it went off, then started again after driving a bit 
then CEL came on after a few more minutes. I checked the gas cap, it’s tight. 
Not sure what else it could be or what the blinking low fuel light is about. 

Anyone seen this?  Seems to run OK. I’ll have to put the scanner on it when I 
get home. 

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1962 Mercedes Benz 220 Fintail for parts or restoration

I would so totally rat rod that thing with a 606 and some newer suspension and 
a welder and cut off tool

--FT
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> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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> Boy, this is random. Hecho en Mexico for Christ sake. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 13

2021-01-12 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Yes hard to steam clams on Zoom.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 9:58 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> But no New England ambiance doing Zoom.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 11, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes like maybe couple  times a year.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 7:21 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Geez you know I hadn't thought of it before but we could have an open
> >> Zoom meeting during an in person Q to allow viewers to have a
> look-see...
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>On Monday, January 11, 2021, 6:22:58 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
> >> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>
> >> Alternate arrangements will be by Zoom and even Kaleb will have no
> >> excuse for not attending.
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
> >>> On 11/01/2021 5:07 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> It is difficult  to know anything for certain now but in the spirit of
> >>> Bertha Benz, let's "give it a go" for our regular date September 11.
> >>>
> >>> Once again we  will be at Goddard State Park, 1095 Ives Road Warwick
> RI.
> >>> Sites 40-42. http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html
> >>> The entry requirements for visitors from other states keep changing so
> >> that
> >>> is up in the air. As of  now we will need to wear masks and have social
> >>> distancing. (There are some neat MB masks on Amazon.)
> >>> Stay tuned for more details later this summer.
> >>> Dwight
> >>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> >>> 1982 300CD
> >>> 2005 E320 4matic
> >>> Wickford RI
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1962 Mercedes Benz 220 Fintail for parts or restoration

I could put a OM629 in that Finny and not feel an ounce of guilt over 
ruining a classic.


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

So is he capable of dealing with the issues it has, like the CEL and SRS 
lights? If not, walk away.

-D

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
> What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?
> 
> Bob R
> 
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>> Subject: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3,500 (OBO) - Phoenix
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1962 Mercedes Benz 220 Fintail for parts or restoration

The bumper overrider is a Mexican thing, unique to that market. Rarely seen.

-D

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 9:46 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Boy, this is random. Hecho en Mexico for Christ sake. 
> 
> Bob R
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

SRS light could be bad passenger presence switch, or could be a halfass 
crash repair.


CEL could be something serious, or could be that sensor. I'd consider it 
worth a PPI and maybe even try swapping that sensor as part of the 
inspection. You've got to deal with that CEL if you buy it, might as 
well troubleshoot it when you can still avoid buying it.


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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 13

But no New England ambiance doing Zoom. 

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> On Jan 11, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes like maybe couple  times a year.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 7:21 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Geez you know I hadn't thought of it before but we could have an open
>> Zoom meeting during an in person Q to allow viewers to have a look-see...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>On Monday, January 11, 2021, 6:22:58 PM EST, Randy Bennell via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Alternate arrangements will be by Zoom and even Kaleb will have no
>> excuse for not attending.
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>>> On 11/01/2021 5:07 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
>>> It is difficult  to know anything for certain now but in the spirit of
>>> Bertha Benz, let's "give it a go" for our regular date September 11.
>>> 
>>> Once again we  will be at Goddard State Park, 1095 Ives Road Warwick RI.
>>> Sites 40-42. http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html
>>> The entry requirements for visitors from other states keep changing so
>> that
>>> is up in the air. As of  now we will need to wear masks and have social
>>> distancing. (There are some neat MB masks on Amazon.)
>>> Stay tuned for more details later this summer.
>>> Dwight
>>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>>> 1982 300CD
>>> 2005 E320 4matic
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
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[MBZ] Fwd: 1962 Mercedes Benz 220 Fintail for parts or restoration

Boy, this is random. Hecho en Mexico for Christ sake. 

Bob R

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[MBZ] Fwd: 2007 Mercedes Benz ML 320 CDI 4WD Sport SUV - $3, 500 (OBO) - Phoenix

Future SIL is now back to diggin’ MLs.
What thinkest ye-all bout this one? Investigate or run away?

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] ML 320 $500 - Was told that it ran but cannot get to start


On 2021-01-12 07:59, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I’d offer $300 and take it, either get it running or parts. Doesn’t
look half bad


I liked the interior color until I saw the right front seat.

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Re: [MBZ] ML 320 $500 - Was told that it ran but cannot get to start