[MBZ] Another one bites the dust

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I'll be the oddball.  Run a wire (before hot weather comes) and put an access 
point at the far end.  Mesh is OK, I guess but cat5 is better, IMO.  By the way 
you don't need to put the access point (or mesh router) inside the room; just 
lay it on top of the drywall or insulation if there is attic above if that's 
easier.  

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Subject: [MBZ] WiFi extender

My office is on one end of the house and kids Xbox at other end. It gets signal 
back there but I guess it’s not good enough to run his games. I put a 2nd 
router connected to the first in the dining room to move a signal closer, but 
it’s still not working that great. 

Aside from running a hard line thru the attic back there, what device or 
solution would solve this?

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Re: [MBZ] Rotella T6

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Actually I just went back to their site and it still shows available but 
will only let you add 3.  If anybody wants any, try to see if it will 
let you order it.


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Shell-Rotella-T6-Full-Synthetic-5W-40-Diesel-Engine-Oil-1-Gallon/102646780?athbdg=L1100

On 2/20/2022 10:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
I was looking online for some 5w40 diesel oil.  Walmart showed 
Vavoline premium blue available, but then went out of stock.  Napa 
shows it on sale for $21 available to order.  I waited a while, then 
went thru the process and it had since gone sold out.  Just now was on 
walmart again and lo and behold it showed T6 available for $24. I 
added to my car, it let me add 3 and said only 3 available. Just 
completed the order.  Lets see if it shows up.  None showed available 
at any stores nearby.


I guess the strategy will be to piece 1 and 2 here and there to stock 
pile.   I generally like to keep at least 6 gallons on the shelf.


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[MBZ] Rotella T6

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I was looking online for some 5w40 diesel oil.  Walmart showed Vavoline 
premium blue available, but then went out of stock.  Napa shows it on 
sale for $21 available to order.  I waited a while, then went thru the 
process and it had since gone sold out.  Just now was on walmart again 
and lo and behold it showed T6 available for $24. I added to my car, it 
let me add 3 and said only 3 available. Just completed the order.  Lets 
see if it shows up.  None showed available at any stores nearby.


I guess the strategy will be to piece 1 and 2 here and there to stock 
pile.   I generally like to keep at least 6 gallons on the shelf.


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Re: [MBZ] 1992 300SD beater - 230k miles - $2,000

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Basically 2 bad pictures 

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> I have put a push button on the dash to start the vehicle.
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Re: [MBZ] Wonder what work it needs

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I need it fersher 

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[MBZ] 1995 E320 - $500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

You get what you pay for.

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[MBZ] 2004 Mercedes’ bens convertible v8 - $8,500

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[MBZ] 1992 300SD beater - 230k miles - $2,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I have put a push button on the dash to start the vehicle.

https://racine.craigslist.org/cto/d/pleasant-prairie-1992-mercedes-benz/7448754587.html
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Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Well hell, maybe I will order one and shut the kid up.

On another note, so I have this T mobile home internet and it seems to 
work OK.  I sometimes get around 20mbps sometimes drops to around 10, 
today its running about 7 or so.  Even with strong signal it seems hard 
to stream shows and kid run his xbox.


Out in the sticks this appears to be about the best option but was 
searching for local WISPs near me to see if anything has changed and 
this internet service pops up, which is cable internet called 
Sparklight, used to be Cable One.  They have up to 1gig connection and 
several packages down to 100 or so.  The 300 is about $30 more than I am 
paying now . Anyway I plug in my address and it says it is available.  I 
am skeptical but it let me pick a package and select an appointment.  I 
guess I will see what happens but expect to get a call saying its really 
not available.


On 2/20/2022 8:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Exactly.

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 9:15 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

So are these plug and play deals I can order a kit, hook it up and it is
ready to go?

On 2/20/2022 8:07 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Ahh, if there was only a world-wide resource you could use to find out more...

Start here: 
https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=mesh+network=2QMX7DV2LN0T4=mesh+network%2Caps%2C212=nb_sb_noss_1
Amazon.com: mesh 
network
Amazon.com: mesh network
smile.amazon.com
A mesh network typically consists of a router that has several wifi nodes that are connected to it 
via wifi. The "backhaul" traffic, or the traffic between the nodes, is carried on 
frequencies that are allocated just for handling the traffic, not the same as the 2.4GHz or 5GHz 
frequencies you're using to surf/game/stream, whatever. The "mesh" is a combination of 
the router and the multiple nodes that are also wifi access points spread around the house.

I use a mesh network to get wifi out to my garage and the casita in it from my 
main (Asus) router. Some Asus models have mesh capabilities built into them. 
The nodes are just another Asus router, in my case, a lower model with the same 
bandwidth capabilities but fewer features. The fancy mesh systems like shown 
above are built to have everything you need. The alternative was a Ubiquiti 
setup with an antenna beaming a signal to a receiving antenna and all the 
related garbage that would go with it. Total overkill, but I did consider it...

-D


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:59 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

I have no clue about mesh networks.

On 2/20/2022 7:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Router with a mesh network. Put a node at or near him and he'll have Ethernet 
conectivity.

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:42 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] WiFi extender

My office is on one end of the house and kids Xbox at other end. It gets signal 
back there but I guess it’s not good enough to run his games. I put a 2nd 
router connected to the first in the dining room to move a signal closer, but 
it’s still not working that great.

Aside from running a hard line thru the attic back there, what device or 
solution would solve this?

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Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Asus and Google's mesh systems are probably the best at a reasonable price. 
You're looking at between $200-$500 for a good system - and Kaleb, if you're 
going to do this, don't Okie out on it. You'll just end up having to cobble 
something else together that still won't do the job (well). Spend the money and 
get a good quality system and you'll never look back. I would avoid TP-Link, 
which I believe is the former Linksys. They tend to not support (orphan) their 
products for long after they retire a model, so you're no longer getting 
software or firmware updates when the new stuff comes out.

I use Asus AC1900 routers to do mine, which cost about $130/each. Asus has the 
mesh capabilities built into certain models, and it just works. You fire up 
your main router, turn on the others, and it sees them and asks if you want to 
add them as mesh nodes. You click "Yes" and you're done.

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 9:15 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

So are these plug and play deals I can order a kit, hook it up and it is
ready to go?

On 2/20/2022 8:07 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Ahh, if there was only a world-wide resource you could use to find out more...
>
> Start here: 
> https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=mesh+network=2QMX7DV2LN0T4=mesh+network%2Caps%2C212=nb_sb_noss_1
> Amazon.com: mesh 
> network
> Amazon.com: mesh network
> smile.amazon.com
> A mesh network typically consists of a router that has several wifi nodes 
> that are connected to it via wifi. The "backhaul" traffic, or the traffic 
> between the nodes, is carried on frequencies that are allocated just for 
> handling the traffic, not the same as the 2.4GHz or 5GHz frequencies you're 
> using to surf/game/stream, whatever. The "mesh" is a combination of the 
> router and the multiple nodes that are also wifi access points spread around 
> the house.
>
> I use a mesh network to get wifi out to my garage and the casita in it from 
> my main (Asus) router. Some Asus models have mesh capabilities built into 
> them. The nodes are just another Asus router, in my case, a lower model with 
> the same bandwidth capabilities but fewer features. The fancy mesh systems 
> like shown above are built to have everything you need. The alternative was a 
> Ubiquiti setup with an antenna beaming a signal to a receiving antenna and 
> all the related garbage that would go with it. Total overkill, but I did 
> consider it...
>
> -D
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin 
> via Mercedes 
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:59 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender
>
> I have no clue about mesh networks.
>
> On 2/20/2022 7:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Router with a mesh network. Put a node at or near him and he'll have 
>> Ethernet conectivity.
>>
>> -D
>> 
>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin 
>> via Mercedes 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:42 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>> Subject: [MBZ] WiFi extender
>>
>> My office is on one end of the house and kids Xbox at other end. It gets 
>> signal back there but I guess it’s not good enough to run his games. I put a 
>> 2nd router connected to the first in the dining room to move a signal 
>> closer, but it’s still not working that great.
>>
>> Aside from running a hard line thru the attic back there, what device or 
>> solution would solve this?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Exactly.

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 9:15 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

So are these plug and play deals I can order a kit, hook it up and it is
ready to go?

On 2/20/2022 8:07 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Ahh, if there was only a world-wide resource you could use to find out more...
>
> Start here: 
> https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=mesh+network=2QMX7DV2LN0T4=mesh+network%2Caps%2C212=nb_sb_noss_1
> Amazon.com: mesh 
> network
> Amazon.com: mesh network
> smile.amazon.com
> A mesh network typically consists of a router that has several wifi nodes 
> that are connected to it via wifi. The "backhaul" traffic, or the traffic 
> between the nodes, is carried on frequencies that are allocated just for 
> handling the traffic, not the same as the 2.4GHz or 5GHz frequencies you're 
> using to surf/game/stream, whatever. The "mesh" is a combination of the 
> router and the multiple nodes that are also wifi access points spread around 
> the house.
>
> I use a mesh network to get wifi out to my garage and the casita in it from 
> my main (Asus) router. Some Asus models have mesh capabilities built into 
> them. The nodes are just another Asus router, in my case, a lower model with 
> the same bandwidth capabilities but fewer features. The fancy mesh systems 
> like shown above are built to have everything you need. The alternative was a 
> Ubiquiti setup with an antenna beaming a signal to a receiving antenna and 
> all the related garbage that would go with it. Total overkill, but I did 
> consider it...
>
> -D
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin 
> via Mercedes 
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:59 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender
>
> I have no clue about mesh networks.
>
> On 2/20/2022 7:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Router with a mesh network. Put a node at or near him and he'll have 
>> Ethernet conectivity.
>>
>> -D
>> 
>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin 
>> via Mercedes 
>> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:42 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>> Subject: [MBZ] WiFi extender
>>
>> My office is on one end of the house and kids Xbox at other end. It gets 
>> signal back there but I guess it’s not good enough to run his games. I put a 
>> 2nd router connected to the first in the dining room to move a signal 
>> closer, but it’s still not working that great.
>>
>> Aside from running a hard line thru the attic back there, what device or 
>> solution would solve this?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So are these plug and play deals I can order a kit, hook it up and it is 
ready to go?


On 2/20/2022 8:07 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Ahh, if there was only a world-wide resource you could use to find out more...

Start here: 
https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=mesh+network=2QMX7DV2LN0T4=mesh+network%2Caps%2C212=nb_sb_noss_1
Amazon.com: mesh 
network
Amazon.com: mesh network
smile.amazon.com
A mesh network typically consists of a router that has several wifi nodes that are connected to it 
via wifi. The "backhaul" traffic, or the traffic between the nodes, is carried on 
frequencies that are allocated just for handling the traffic, not the same as the 2.4GHz or 5GHz 
frequencies you're using to surf/game/stream, whatever. The "mesh" is a combination of 
the router and the multiple nodes that are also wifi access points spread around the house.

I use a mesh network to get wifi out to my garage and the casita in it from my 
main (Asus) router. Some Asus models have mesh capabilities built into them. 
The nodes are just another Asus router, in my case, a lower model with the same 
bandwidth capabilities but fewer features. The fancy mesh systems like shown 
above are built to have everything you need. The alternative was a Ubiquiti 
setup with an antenna beaming a signal to a receiving antenna and all the 
related garbage that would go with it. Total overkill, but I did consider it...

-D


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:59 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

I have no clue about mesh networks.

On 2/20/2022 7:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Router with a mesh network. Put a node at or near him and he'll have Ethernet 
conectivity.

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:42 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] WiFi extender

My office is on one end of the house and kids Xbox at other end. It gets signal 
back there but I guess it’s not good enough to run his games. I put a 2nd 
router connected to the first in the dining room to move a signal closer, but 
it’s still not working that great.

Aside from running a hard line thru the attic back there, what device or 
solution would solve this?

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Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

[OK Don via Mercedes]

A mesh network is a series of routers and extenders that are easier to
deploy - just do it.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 8:08 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ahh, if there was only a world-wide resource you could use to find out
> more...
>
> Start here:
> https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=mesh+network=2QMX7DV2LN0T4=mesh+network%2Caps%2C212=nb_sb_noss_1
> Amazon.com
> :
> mesh network<
> https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=mesh+network=2QMX7DV2LN0T4=mesh+network%2Caps%2C212=nb_sb_noss_1
> >
> Amazon.com: mesh network
> smile.amazon.com
> A mesh network typically consists of a router that has several wifi nodes
> that are connected to it via wifi. The "backhaul" traffic, or the traffic
> between the nodes, is carried on frequencies that are allocated just for
> handling the traffic, not the same as the 2.4GHz or 5GHz frequencies you're
> using to surf/game/stream, whatever. The "mesh" is a combination of the
> router and the multiple nodes that are also wifi access points spread
> around the house.
>
> I use a mesh network to get wifi out to my garage and the casita in it
> from my main (Asus) router. Some Asus models have mesh capabilities built
> into them. The nodes are just another Asus router, in my case, a lower
> model with the same bandwidth capabilities but fewer features. The fancy
> mesh systems like shown above are built to have everything you need. The
> alternative was a Ubiquiti setup with an antenna beaming a signal to a
> receiving antenna and all the related garbage that would go with it. Total
> overkill, but I did consider it...
>
> -D
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb
> Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender
>
> I have no clue about mesh networks.
>
> On 2/20/2022 7:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > Router with a mesh network. Put a node at or near him and he'll have
> Ethernet conectivity.
> >
> > -D
> > 
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> > Subject: [MBZ] WiFi extender
> >
> > My office is on one end of the house and kids Xbox at other end. It gets
> signal back there but I guess it’s not good enough to run his games. I put
> a 2nd router connected to the first in the dining room to move a signal
> closer, but it’s still not working that great.
> >
> > Aside from running a hard line thru the attic back there, what device or
> solution would solve this?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Ahh, if there was only a world-wide resource you could use to find out more...

Start here: 
https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=mesh+network=2QMX7DV2LN0T4=mesh+network%2Caps%2C212=nb_sb_noss_1
Amazon.com: mesh 
network
Amazon.com: mesh network
smile.amazon.com
A mesh network typically consists of a router that has several wifi nodes that 
are connected to it via wifi. The "backhaul" traffic, or the traffic between 
the nodes, is carried on frequencies that are allocated just for handling the 
traffic, not the same as the 2.4GHz or 5GHz frequencies you're using to 
surf/game/stream, whatever. The "mesh" is a combination of the router and the 
multiple nodes that are also wifi access points spread around the house.

I use a mesh network to get wifi out to my garage and the casita in it from my 
main (Asus) router. Some Asus models have mesh capabilities built into them. 
The nodes are just another Asus router, in my case, a lower model with the same 
bandwidth capabilities but fewer features. The fancy mesh systems like shown 
above are built to have everything you need. The alternative was a Ubiquiti 
setup with an antenna beaming a signal to a receiving antenna and all the 
related garbage that would go with it. Total overkill, but I did consider it...

-D


From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin via 
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Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:59 PM
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Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

I have no clue about mesh networks.

On 2/20/2022 7:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Router with a mesh network. Put a node at or near him and he'll have Ethernet 
> conectivity.
>
> -D
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin 
> via Mercedes 
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:42 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: [MBZ] WiFi extender
>
> My office is on one end of the house and kids Xbox at other end. It gets 
> signal back there but I guess it’s not good enough to run his games. I put a 
> 2nd router connected to the first in the dining room to move a signal closer, 
> but it’s still not working that great.
>
> Aside from running a hard line thru the attic back there, what device or 
> solution would solve this?
>
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Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have no clue about mesh networks.

On 2/20/2022 7:58 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Router with a mesh network. Put a node at or near him and he'll have Ethernet 
conectivity.

-D

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Mercedes 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:42 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] WiFi extender

My office is on one end of the house and kids Xbox at other end. It gets signal 
back there but I guess it’s not good enough to run his games. I put a 2nd 
router connected to the first in the dining room to move a signal closer, but 
it’s still not working that great.

Aside from running a hard line thru the attic back there, what device or 
solution would solve this?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] WiFi extender

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Router with a mesh network. Put a node at or near him and he'll have Ethernet 
conectivity.

-D

From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb Striplin via 
Mercedes 
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:42 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: [MBZ] WiFi extender

My office is on one end of the house and kids Xbox at other end. It gets signal 
back there but I guess it’s not good enough to run his games. I put a 2nd 
router connected to the first in the dining room to move a signal closer, but 
it’s still not working that great.

Aside from running a hard line thru the attic back there, what device or 
solution would solve this?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] OT gas water heater, pilot won't stay lit

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yes, bypassed the overheat cutoff circuit on the thermocouple and it works 
fine. 

From what I have read, Rheem will send you a new thermostat/gas valve under 
warranty, but they are so overwhelmed with claims that it's taking months to 
process.


On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, at 11:38 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, at 8:45 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Better than the modern electronic one that fail because the overheat 
>> protection comes on and stays on…..
>
> I think this is what has happened. The heater was manufactured in 2020. 
> It looks brand new. I am going over there again later today and will 
> try bypassing the overheat fuse to see if that is the problem.
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[MBZ] WiFi extender

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

My office is on one end of the house and kids Xbox at other end. It gets signal 
back there but I guess it’s not good enough to run his games. I put a 2nd 
router connected to the first in the dining room to move a signal closer, but 
it’s still not working that great. 

Aside from running a hard line thru the attic back there, what device or 
solution would solve this?

Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] Wonder what work it needs

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/494541805574960/


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Re: [MBZ] ElCamino Style Mercedes 1980 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D, $8, 500

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yeah, the aircraft engineer that did it must not have understood metal 
treatment...still a unique mod and looks like it was pretty well done.

-D

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Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 12:47 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] ElCamino Style Mercedes 1980 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D, 
$8, 500

A "little" rust but cool mod

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Re: [MBZ] 1984 300SD - 78k miles - $21,000

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Good point, I didn't notice the pictures and the time of year.

That's what classic car insurance like Hagerty is for. They'll do higher values 
if you've got the supporting documentation and are willing to spring for it.

-D

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Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 2:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300SD - 78k miles - $21,000

Since the photos are from summertime I guess it's been for sale for a while. 
I'd also want to know whether the ACC works properly.

If it really is a close to perfect example, then the problem becomes that it's 
too nice to drive. And you'll need a custom insurance policy.


On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, at 2:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Not really when you consider the premium for the low miles. It's an
> extremely nice and clean example. Prices are stupid, but I could almost
> see someone paying that for this car. Certainly well into the teens,
> for sure.
>
> -D
> 
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> Subject: [MBZ] 1984 300SD - 78k miles - $21,000
>
> It looks very nice but that is beyond BaT lunacy on the price.
>
> https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/nashville-1984-mercedes-benz-300sd/7448334471.html
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Re: [MBZ] Am I doing this starter voltage drop test correctly?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thanks, now my memory is refreshed re the battery status.
How about load testing the battery, not from the battery posts, but from
the battery cables at the starter connection lug [disconnect the lug from
the starter] and at the ground lug, to isolate the cables with the battery.

Then if the load test at the battery reads 12.4 volts, but the load test
through the cables reads [say]10.2 then you have a cable that has internal
corrosion [maybe where the lugs are crimped on for example] and not giving
you full voltage for a good starter spin.

If the load tester reads the same voltage at the starter ends [load tester
clamped to positive lead and negative lead lugs] then you know you have 1.
a good battery, 2. good cables, then the process of elimination says the
starter is dragging, or start solenoid is not making good contact.
Then you can take the starter apart and look for bad commutators or field
coils, brushes not making good contact, weak brush springs, or solenoid
contacts not clean bright and tight internally.
Here is a youtube video that covers the basics of starter rebuild, just as
a refresher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tN3vhIW3Fc

On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 4:37 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It’s a brand new AGM that I did load test and it’s fine.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Feb 19, 2022, at 5:34 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Kaleb,
> > Have you ever put a load tester on that battery? I have had batteries
> that
> > would check as 12.3 vdc using a meter, but when hooked to a load tester,
> > would drop to below 7 volts, which is a failure I've forgotten over
> the
> > passage of time and messages where you might be with the battery. Sorry
> if
> > it's been done already.
> >
> >
> >> On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 4:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is the 2008 GL320 that turns over slow. I hooked the negative of
> the
> >> meter to the b terminal at the starter. The battery is under the seat
> so I
> >> used a brand new pair of jumper cables, connected to the positive on the
> >> battery with positive of meter to other end of jumper cable. In video it
> >> still turns over too slow but not as slow as it does when sitting all
> >> night.  I was able to get to the top of the starter by removing the air
> box
> >> then removing the top motor mount bolt and head shield. Not an easy job.
> >>
> >>
> >> https://youtube.com/shorts/DxXrEAIJl6g?feature=share
> >>
> >> It appears the cable off the starter runs to a stud on the back of the
> >> alternator? From there it goes to the connection at the jump post then
> to
> >> the battery.  After the test in the video moved lead to the connection
> on
> >> the back of the alternator with about the same results, then to the
> >> connections at the jumper post which was not as high but still about .9
> >> iirc. Should there be voltage showing when the key is turned on before
> you
> >> start cranking? Negative side was about the same but will say the ground
> >> cable that goes from the solenoid to the body of the starter felt hot to
> >> the touch after that little bit of cranking.
> >>
> >> If this is really the voltage drop im sure not finding anything wrong.
> All
> >> connections look clean.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] This doesn't look bad at all for the price 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 500 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $3, 000

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah that’s the same color interior as the E500 which was much nastier and came 
out looking pretty good. That would likely clean up really well. 

My 05E320 wagon is not a performance ride like the 04E500 so this car would 
benefit from the extra oomph for sure. It would be fun and practical!

But I wonder what’s wrong with the car at that price. 

--FT
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> On Feb 20, 2022, at 2:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wouldn't be bad with some Martha'ing and Floyd's steam machine.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Floyd Thursby via 
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> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 12:18 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Floyd Thursby 
> Subject: [MBZ] This doesn't look bad at all for the price 2005 Mercedes-Benz 
> E-Class E 500 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $3, 000
> 
> A few warts but not bad, would be a good driver
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/732199657760516
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Re: [MBZ] 1984 300SD - 78k miles - $21,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Since the photos are from summertime I guess it's been for sale for a while. 
I'd also want to know whether the ACC works properly.

If it really is a close to perfect example, then the problem becomes that it's 
too nice to drive. And you'll need a custom insurance policy.


On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, at 2:24 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Not really when you consider the premium for the low miles. It's an 
> extremely nice and clean example. Prices are stupid, but I could almost 
> see someone paying that for this car. Certainly well into the teens, 
> for sure.
>
> -D
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Allan 
> Streib via Mercedes 
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 12:22 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
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> Subject: [MBZ] 1984 300SD - 78k miles - $21,000
>
> It looks very nice but that is beyond BaT lunacy on the price.
>
> https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/nashville-1984-mercedes-benz-300sd/7448334471.html
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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

What these guys are saying. The ML is always going to have a ride like a truck, 
which can be forgiven on the highway, but get off an even remotely 
well-maintained road and you're going to know it immediately.

I would go with something later and not a W163 if one of your bigger concerns 
is long trip comfort.

-D

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Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 11:53 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

Good point.
There are places where the freeway doesn't frost heave.
I keep forgetting that sometimes.

On 2022-02-20 11:46, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>  However,
> we did not notice the harsh ride when on Interstate highways, mostly in
> town and on our country back roads.

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Re: [MBZ] 1984 300SD - 78k miles - $21,000

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Not really when you consider the premium for the low miles. It's an extremely 
nice and clean example. Prices are stupid, but I could almost see someone 
paying that for this car. Certainly well into the teens, for sure.

-D

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Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 12:22 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: [MBZ] 1984 300SD - 78k miles - $21,000

It looks very nice but that is beyond BaT lunacy on the price.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/nashville-1984-mercedes-benz-300sd/7448334471.html

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Re: [MBZ] 300SEL looks fairly nice 1990 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 400 SEL Sedan 4D, $1, 800

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Not a bad deal for a 300SEL. Driver's seat is a bit toasted, but yes, the color 
combination is unique.

-D

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Subject: [MBZ] 300SEL looks fairly nice 1990 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 400 
SEL Sedan 4D, $1, 800

Nice color combo

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Re: [MBZ] This doesn't look bad at all for the price 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 500 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $3, 000

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Wouldn't be bad with some Martha'ing and Floyd's steam machine.

-D


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Subject: [MBZ] This doesn't look bad at all for the price 2005 Mercedes-Benz 
E-Class E 500 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $3, 000

A few warts but not bad, would be a good driver

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Re: [MBZ] Rare diesel Mercedes that's over engineered for reliability and comfort. 1991 Mercedes 350SD - $3, 496 (palm coast)

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

"There are some minor mechanical, interior and paint issues"

Uhhh, yeah, there sure are.

-D

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Subject: [MBZ] Rare diesel Mercedes that's over engineered for reliability and 
comfort. 1991 Mercedes 350SD - $3, 496 (palm coast)

engine was rebuilt at around 200k miles.  Not a SDL.  h

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Re: [MBZ] Am I doing this starter voltage drop test correctly?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So safe to assume my numbers are probably accurate and the problem is somewhere 
between the jump post and battery. The one thing I didn’t check was between the 
post and the cable clamp. I cleaned it anyway but it already looked good.

I did get a helper so I could measure the voltage at the battery while 
cranking. It after several tests and the doors being open with lights on, guess 
battery ran down to around 12.1 volts or so. Got it on the charger now and will 
get back to it later. 

If the alternator and starter all run back thru the same cable to the battery, 
and there is an issue there, I can assume the alternator might not be fully 
charging the battery. 

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> On Feb 20, 2022, at 11:29 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> There is next to no current flowing through your meter.  ANY sized
> wire will be good for that, there will be no significant voltage drop
> through such wire.  A length of old CAT-3 phone wire would be
> good enough.
> 
> The alternator does not usually participate in the many-hundreds-of-amperes
> wiring that is used for the battery, jump-start post, and starter.  At most 
> it's
> rated for about 100A, and is usually smaller than the big one.  Big wire like
> that costs money, as do connections rated at this level.  Not usually used
> anywhere except when necessary.
> 
> A schematic is not a wiring diagram.  Two different representations of the
> same data, intended for different purposes.  One helps you understand.
> The other helps you find problems.
> 
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[MBZ] ElCamino Style Mercedes 1980 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D, $8, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

A "little" rust but cool mod

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[MBZ] Needs to go to someone who knows more about mercedes benz than me 2010 Mercedes-Benz M-Class, $5, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Needs fuel pump.  Not clear what model

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[MBZ] This is a 240D not a 300D !!! 1981 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D, $15, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This looks really nice Manual transmission

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[MBZ] Cadillac converters missing? 2001 Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, $6, 800

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Re: [MBZ] Am I doing this starter voltage drop test correctly?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

There is next to no current flowing through your meter.  ANY sized
wire will be good for that, there will be no significant voltage drop
through such wire.  A length of old CAT-3 phone wire would be
good enough.

The alternator does not usually participate in the many-hundreds-of-amperes
wiring that is used for the battery, jump-start post, and starter.  At most it's
rated for about 100A, and is usually smaller than the big one.  Big wire like
that costs money, as do connections rated at this level.  Not usually used
anywhere except when necessary.

A schematic is not a wiring diagram.  Two different representations of the
same data, intended for different purposes.  One helps you understand.
The other helps you find problems.

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[MBZ] please don't low ball me I no what the part cost 2001 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 600 Sedan 4D, $4, 500

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

really just don't want to fix it lol the cash price is firm other then 
that send trade


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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Gotta put DEF in the Passat today. 

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> On Feb 20, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Avoid DEF at all costs.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 12:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep we've ranged from near 60 degree highs to single-digit lows over the 
>> past few weeks. Some of the roads here are in close to third world condition.
>> 
>> 
 On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, at 11:53 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Good point.
>>> There are places where the freeway doesn't frost heave.
>>> I keep forgetting that sometimes.
>>> 
 On 2022-02-20 11:46, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
 However,
 we did not notice the harsh ride when on Interstate highways, mostly in
 town and on our country back roads.
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[MBZ] 2002 CLK430 - 149k miles - $9,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Miles aren't bad but price seems crackish

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[MBZ] 1984 300SD - 78k miles - $21,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

It looks very nice but that is beyond BaT lunacy on the price.

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[MBZ] 300SEL looks fairly nice 1990 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 400 SEL Sedan 4D, $1, 800

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Nice color combo

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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Avoid DEF at all costs.

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> On Feb 20, 2022, at 12:17 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep we've ranged from near 60 degree highs to single-digit lows over the 
> past few weeks. Some of the roads here are in close to third world condition.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, at 11:53 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Good point.
>> There are places where the freeway doesn't frost heave.
>> I keep forgetting that sometimes.
>> 
>>> On 2022-02-20 11:46, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>> However,
>>> we did not notice the harsh ride when on Interstate highways, mostly in
>>> town and on our country back roads.
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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

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The 164 is unibody unlike the 163

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> On Feb 20, 2022, at 11:14 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for clearing that up, Kaleb. That’s what I was wondering. Y’all bring 
> up good points, main one being the body on frame point. I guess I didn’t 
> think that all the way through. 
> Other than a sweet W126, maybe a W211 bluetec is the way to go. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 07-08 wil be CDI and have DPF but no DEF. 09 and up Bluetec will require 
>> DEF and generally be more complicated and expensive to repair. In the 211 
>> they are all called bluetec but never had DEF.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Feb 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I know we’ve had his discussion before (CDI v BlueTec) but I need my mind 
>>> refreshed, and we are likely, collectively, smarter armed with new 
>>> information.  
>>> 
>>> Drove the Passat TDI over to San Diego for consultation with the sawbones 
>>> to set up proton therapy to eradicate my hitchhiker. I managed 40.2 mpg so 
>>> that was great, but I discovered the seats are not very comfortable for 
>>> long stretches of time.
>>> Now I’m kicking around the idea of selling the Passat and getting a 
>>> probably much more comfortable ’09-ish ML320CDI, or a newer ML350 Blue Tec. 
>>> Heck, even SWMBO said if we are planning on doing any substantial road 
>>> trips we need to get something more comfortable.   
>>> 
>>> What saged advice have yous?
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> 
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[MBZ] This doesn't look bad at all for the price 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 500 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $3, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

A few warts but not bad, would be a good driver

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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The GL is very comfortable on long trips. I just got this diesel ML but it 
appears the seats are about the same comfort. 

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> On Feb 20, 2022, at 10:43 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you want long road trip comfort I think you want an S class not an ML.
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, at 11:15 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> I know we’ve had his discussion before (CDI v BlueTec) but I need my mind 
>> refreshed, and we are likely, collectively, smarter armed with new 
>> information.  
>> 
>> Drove the Passat TDI over to San Diego for consultation with the sawbones to 
>> set up proton therapy to eradicate my hitchhiker. I managed 40.2 mpg so that 
>> was great, but I discovered the seats are not very comfortable for long 
>> stretches of time.
>> Now I’m kicking around the idea of selling the Passat and getting a probably 
>> much more comfortable ’09-ish ML320CDI, or a newer ML350 Blue Tec. Heck, 
>> even SWMBO said if we are planning on doing any substantial road trips we 
>> need to get something more comfortable.   
>> 
>> What saged advice have yous?
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail  for Windows
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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yep we've ranged from near 60 degree highs to single-digit lows over the past 
few weeks. Some of the roads here are in close to third world condition.


On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, at 11:53 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:
> Good point.
> There are places where the freeway doesn't frost heave.
> I keep forgetting that sometimes.
>
> On 2022-02-20 11:46, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>>  However,
>> we did not notice the harsh ride when on Interstate highways, mostly in
>> town and on our country back roads.
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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Thanks for clearing that up, Kaleb. That’s what I was wondering. Y’all bring up 
good points, main one being the body on frame point. I guess I didn’t think 
that all the way through. 
Other than a sweet W126, maybe a W211 bluetec is the way to go. 

AZBob

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> On Feb 20, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 07-08 wil be CDI and have DPF but no DEF. 09 and up Bluetec will require DEF 
> and generally be more complicated and expensive to repair. In the 211 they 
> are all called bluetec but never had DEF. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I know we’ve had his discussion before (CDI v BlueTec) but I need my mind 
>> refreshed, and we are likely, collectively, smarter armed with new 
>> information.  
>> 
>> Drove the Passat TDI over to San Diego for consultation with the sawbones to 
>> set up proton therapy to eradicate my hitchhiker. I managed 40.2 mpg so that 
>> was great, but I discovered the seats are not very comfortable for long 
>> stretches of time.
>> Now I’m kicking around the idea of selling the Passat and getting a probably 
>> much more comfortable ’09-ish ML320CDI, or a newer ML350 Blue Tec. Heck, 
>> even SWMBO said if we are planning on doing any substantial road trips we 
>> need to get something more comfortable.   
>> 
>> What saged advice have yous?
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] Rare diesel Mercedes that's over engineered for reliability and comfort. 1991 Mercedes 350SD - $3, 496 (palm coast)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

engine was rebuilt at around 200k miles.  Not a SDL.  h

https://daytona.craigslist.org/cto/d/palm-coast-1991-mercedes-350sd/7448173339.html

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[MBZ] THIS VEHICLE IS SO CLEAN THAT ITS LIKE BUYING A NEW VEHICLE AT A USED VEHICLE PRICE. 2009 MERCEDES GL GARAGE KEPT EXCELLENT CONDITION - $8, 100 (Charlotte)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This looks too nice for the price but who knows what the deal is

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[MBZ] I don't no what I got 1995 Mercedes G-Class Roadster!! - $19, 630 (Charlotte)

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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

07-08 wil be CDI and have DPF but no DEF. 09 and up Bluetec will require DEF 
and generally be more complicated and expensive to repair. In the 211 they are 
all called bluetec but never had DEF. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 20, 2022, at 10:15 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I know we’ve had his discussion before (CDI v BlueTec) but I need my mind 
> refreshed, and we are likely, collectively, smarter armed with new 
> information.  
>  
> Drove the Passat TDI over to San Diego for consultation with the sawbones to 
> set up proton therapy to eradicate my hitchhiker. I managed 40.2 mpg so that 
> was great, but I discovered the seats are not very comfortable for long 
> stretches of time.
> Now I’m kicking around the idea of selling the Passat and getting a probably 
> much more comfortable ’09-ish ML320CDI, or a newer ML350 Blue Tec. Heck, even 
> SWMBO said if we are planning on doing any substantial road trips we need to 
> get something more comfortable.   
>  
> What saged advice have yous?
>  
> AZBob
>  
>  
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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

Good point.
There are places where the freeway doesn't frost heave.
I keep forgetting that sometimes.

On 2022-02-20 11:46, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

 However,
we did not notice the harsh ride when on Interstate highways, mostly in
town and on our country back roads.


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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

[OK Don via Mercedes]

We had a 2012 Passat and a 2001 ML320. The Passat seats were not up to
Mercedes comfort and the wind noise was noticeably greater than a W124. The
ML seats were more comfortable than the Passat, about the same as a W124,
but as others have said, the ride is harder - more like a truck. However,
we did not notice the harsh ride when on Interstate highways, mostly in
town and on our country back roads.
I don't know anything about the newer models 

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think if you're looking for more comfort than a Passat you're looking
> for a W211 or W212, and not a W164. But that's not the voice of
> experience, it's just speculation.
>
> It's not speculation to say you are not looking for a body on frame
> W163.
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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

If you want long road trip comfort I think you want an S class not an ML.

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, at 11:15 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> I know we’ve had his discussion before (CDI v BlueTec) but I need my mind 
> refreshed, and we are likely, collectively, smarter armed with new 
> information.  
>  
> Drove the Passat TDI over to San Diego for consultation with the sawbones to 
> set up proton therapy to eradicate my hitchhiker. I managed 40.2 mpg so that 
> was great, but I discovered the seats are not very comfortable for long 
> stretches of time.
> Now I’m kicking around the idea of selling the Passat and getting a probably 
> much more comfortable ’09-ish ML320CDI, or a newer ML350 Blue Tec. Heck, even 
> SWMBO said if we are planning on doing any substantial road trips we need to 
> get something more comfortable.   
>  
> What saged advice have yous?
>  
> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] OT gas water heater, pilot won't stay lit

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

On Sun, Feb 20, 2022, at 8:45 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:

> Better than the modern electronic one that fail because the overheat 
> protection comes on and stays on…..

I think this is what has happened. The heater was manufactured in 2020. It 
looks brand new. I am going over there again later today and will try bypassing 
the overheat fuse to see if that is the problem.

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Re: [MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

I think if you're looking for more comfort than a Passat you're looking 
for a W211 or W212, and not a W164. But that's not the voice of 
experience, it's just speculation.


It's not speculation to say you are not looking for a body on frame 
W163.


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[MBZ] CDI or BlueTec

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I know we’ve had his discussion before (CDI v BlueTec) but I need my mind refreshed, and we are likely, collectively, smarter armed with new information.   Drove the Passat TDI over to San Diego for consultation with the sawbones to set up proton therapy to eradicate my hitchhiker. I managed 40.2 mpg so that was great, but I discovered the seats are not very comfortable for long stretches of time. Now I’m kicking around the idea of selling the Passat and getting a probably much more comfortable ’09-ish ML320CDI, or a newer ML350 Blue Tec. Heck, even SWMBO said if we are planning on doing any substantial road trips we need to get something more comfortable.    What saged advice have yous?  AZBob  Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] Lary T. Mini split

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Now that you say that, yeah, that’s right. I’s cornfused 

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> On Feb 20, 2022, at 9:31 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> I don’t know specifically where it might be on your car but on 210s and 163s 
>> the TCM is under the steering wheel above the under dash panel.
> 
> On my W210's the TCM is under the little hatch in the engine compartment
> near the firewall on the passenger side.
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Re: [MBZ] Lary T. Mini split

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I don’t know specifically where it might be on your car but on 210s and 163s 
> the TCM is under the steering wheel above the under dash panel.

On my W210's the TCM is under the little hatch in the engine compartment
near the firewall on the passenger side.

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Re: [MBZ] OT gas water heater, pilot won't stay lit

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I had to try two different ones on the furnace in the garage to get the pilot 
to stay on.  I suspect the problem is the connection end, but it’s possible for 
the actual thermocouple to not generate enough current.

Better than the modern electronic one that fail because the overheat protection 
comes on and stays on…..


Peter
> On Feb 19, 2022, at 8:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Was at oldest son's house today trying to help with his water heater. It has 
> a pilot light and it won't stay lit. I suspected the thermocouple was the 
> problem, went to Lowes and bought one of their generic replacements for $10. 
> Installed, and the problem is unchanged.
> 
> So for $10 I guess there's some chance the new thermocouple was bad out of 
> the box. But how likely is that? Can they be tested with a voltmeter?
> 
> The only other possibility that I can think of is that the gas valve unit 
> itself is bad, and it's not sensing the signal from the thermocouple.
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