[MBZ] Transmission helper ideas, Please!
I'm hoping some of you experienced gentlemen can assist in a diagnosis and possible repair of the transmission on our 1980 300TD. The reverse gear stopped working suddenly after a sharp drop into a hole in our driveway at a slow speed of about 10 mph. No sound at all, just would not engage or try to move when we started it up a few minutes later. So, we thought the transmission must be on its way to complete shutdown, however, we continued to drive it for another 4 or 5 thousand miles. (you do get creative in how you park when you can only move forward!) It just kept going and going! Now we are needing to repair some ball joints and other stuff in front end. The question is now, can the tranny be repaired with a reasonable cost and effort to make it worthwhile to order the front end parts and repair that? We love this car! The shift lever seems tight. I have read about how the bushings can be damaged and cause trouble. But it doesn't seem like that is it. Is it worth changing them, just in case? Really would appreciate some feedback and advise! Thanks so much, we really learn a lot from this list! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our 1980 300SD??S
On 6/28/2013 11:15 AM, Tim Crone wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Try in neutral also. I had a neutral lockout switch go bad. It's in the side of the transmission and lives in a pretty dirty environment. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Our 1980 300SD??S On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 07:45:48 -0600 Chris N John ceand...@tctwest.net wrote: Been having some issues starting it throughout the winter. Usually a jiggle of ignition or the auto gear shifter would do the trick. NO GO in reverse!! Just revved up a bit and didn't move. OK, then forward? Yep, goes perfect! The two symptoms suggest the shifter bushings or adjustment, the former because the neutral-lockout switch wasn't being put in the right position, the latter because the transmission's lever wasn't placed where it should have been. When you have the problem, have someone crawl under the car and wiggle the transmission's lever to see if it will move to the correct position. Craig Copying Craig's and Scott's suggestions in the hope that Chris and/or John will see it :) Best, Tim Thank You!! For all the ideas and replies!! No I did not see any of the replies until I had done a re post of the original message. Just thought I had sent the first off into cyber space for whomever and wherever it might land. After waiting several days and watching the posts several times each day I just thought it hadn't made the right bus. You've all given a lot of good advise, and as soon as it cools down a bit here, we'll go to work on it. I'll report on what we find later on Something I read sometime ago led us to believe we should order a bushing because of the starting trouble. Then all the mess with Trent evolved and I didn't go ahead with order. Probably will get one on hand though. Looks to be a cheap investment and is probably worn anyway if not the major culprit! Thanks again, nobody knows a benz as well as benz lovers! Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our 1980 300SD??S
On 6/27/2013 10:37 PM, Craig wrote: On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:40:33 -0600 Chris N John ceand...@tctwest.net wrote: Hello to all of you smart, knowledgeable, Mercedes Gurus! I think This is the same email we got about a week ago Craig Sorry if I bothered anyone! I never saw the first posting. Thanks for help, I'll just go back to lurking and see what I can learn. You have been a great help in the past and I thought that was what it was all about!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Our 1980 300SD??S
On 6/28/2013 10:01 AM, Tim Crone wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Chris N John ceand...@tctwest.net wrote: Sorry if I bothered anyone! I never saw the first posting. Thanks for help, I'll just go back to lurking and see what I can learn. You have been a great help in the past and I thought that was what it was all about!! We've (almost) all done it, don't sweat it. Did you get to check the shifter linkage? -Tim No I didn't, Tim. As I said, before I never saw mine post or responses until I resent. Checked archives and didn't find much either--- Thanks for the message, and I think that is good advise. Good place to start. The tranny might be bad, but all the other gears are working so well! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Our 1980 300SD??S
Hello to all of you smart, knowledgeable, Mercedes Gurus! I think that's the word I want, anyhow, all of you folks that might once again enlighten us about our quirky, but loveable car. My son just keeps saying get rid of it, sell it to some high-school kid who needs a project. Can't do it! I love driving the old girl! Been having some issues starting it throughout the winter. Usually a jiggle of ignition or the auto gear shifter would do the trick. Some times it needed to roll back a bit and then most of the time it would start. Sometimes nothing will work and we have to drive something else until next time she really wants to take us someplace. OK, with warmer weather, it has been better about starting. Then last week we went to town, stopped at Maverik, reversed and came home. Stopped the car off to the side of the driveway to work in the garden a bit, then got into the car, started it (perfect!) and put it in gear to back up. NO GO in reverse!! Just revved up a bit and didn't move. OK, then forward? Yep, goes perfect! NO noise, no warning. Was a bit low on tranny fluid. That hubby refilled, but didn't make a difference in the reverse. So I'm going to go to town this morning and try to remember to park where I don't have to back up! Else I'll be calling on some strong guys to push it back for me so I can come home. Hope someone can give us some ideas and it isn't too terminal! She probably doesn't warrant a new transmission. We changes the filter and fluid a few years back, the fluid isn't dark or burned smelling. HELP! and Thanks for ideas!! Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Our 1980 300SD??S
Hello to all of you smart, knowledgeable, Mercedes Gurus! I think that's the word I want, anyhow, all of you folks that might once again enlighten us about our quirky, but loveable car. My son just keeps saying get rid of it, sell it to some high-school kid who needs a project. Can't do it! I love driving the old girl! Been having some issues starting it throughout the winter. Usually a jiggle of ignition or the auto gear shifter would do the trick. Some times it needed to roll back a bit and then most of the time it would start. Sometimes nothing will work and we have to drive something else until next time she really wants to take us someplace. OK, with warmer weather, it has been better about starting. Then last week we went to town, stopped at Maverik, reversed and came home. Stopped the car off to the side of the driveway to work in the garden a bit, then got into the car, started it (perfect!) and put it in gear to back up. NO GO in reverse!! Just revved up a bit and didn't move. OK, then forward? Yep, goes perfect! NO noise, no warning. Was a bit low on tranny fluid. That hubby refilled, but didn't make a difference in the reverse. So I'm going to go to town this morning and try to remember to park where I don't have to back up! Else I'll be calling on some strong guys to push it back for me so I can come home. Hope someone can give us some ideas and it isn't too terminal! She probably doesn't warrant a new transmission. We changes the filter and fluid a few years back, the fluid isn't dark or burned smelling. HELP! and Thanks for ideas!! Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Laptop memory
I'm slow reading the need for memory, so mine may not help. Have 2X512 if they will work in your 'puter? Christy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Backup software needed
On 12:59 PM, Fmiser wrote: Allan Streib wrote: If you want to get your hands a *little* dirty you can boot a linux live CD and use the 'dd' utility. dd does a byte-by-byte copy of one disk to another. So you could copy your internal hard drive to an attached drive, for example. partimage is a much safer, friendlier, and more capable partition cloning/backup tool. http://ping.windowsdream.com/ http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/free_imaging_software.html --Philip I really like dropbox! Amazon has a new backup program with a certain amount of free space, too. Its good to have multiples for safety measure! Christy http://dropbox.softlate.com/?gclid=CL6ixe_YyagCFQgPbAodOnkQqQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Blinking light?
Hope I'm not requesting something that has been covered, but I haven't seen any discussion about this problem, if it *IS* a problem?? After starting my car with the usual wait time for the glow plug indicator light to go out, the light comes back on blinking at about 1 second intervals and continues for about 30 blinks. Started doing this about 6 months ago. Guess I wonder if it is a warning about something wrong, but if so I am not getting the full message. Maybe its in Morse code, which I don't know how to decipher! Any ideas or knowledge out there?? Thanks for all your help, and fun and informative threads! Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Vacuum Cleaners
Several of my friends have Dysons and love them! They (Dyson) also has a canister model now, which is what I have always preferred. I like the looks of that rolling ball feature on the upright too, though They last well and parts are available. Really think they are worth the money. I have an American Patriot right now and have used it for about 10 years. Bought it as a repo. Don't pay for their new price spiel, but they always have a repo available when you won't buy the new one at that atrocious price after the demo. We have changed bearings in both the motor and the power head and it still runs great, but I am tired of buying the bags over and over again. Just a few thoughts about my experiences (44 years a housewife!) Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1980 300 SD vac lines again!
Well, I'm ashamed that after all the help you guys offered to try and resolve our vac issues that we are once again heating our car with the defroster fan this winter We tried various changes on the lines coming out of the firewall into the engine compartment. You may or may not recall, when we bought our car, it had several vac lines to the right of the brake unit just dangling and connected to NOTHING. We just don't know what all was changed or bypassed and why! Still would like to see pics of correct connections. I know there is an issue with the holding vac on the door locks. They lock fine but bleed off at various rates. Sometimes they won't all lock, but can be pushed down and will hold for awhile. Anyone out there still have a car like ours? I study the diagrams and seem to get more confused. Think we need a mighty-vac from the sound of things, also? Is it best to just change to new check valves or is there a way to test and see if they are good. They may even be installed backwards for all we know Guess it will be spring someday and then we will be worried about the AC that also doesn't work. And even though it hasn't started for 10 days cause its too cold, we Love our car! Still not sure if that block heater is there, but we are going to check it out soon. We have a great old 72 ford bronco that gets us where we want to go in this weather! Thanks again everyone, Chris in NW Wyoming Found some perfect match vinyl and working on new upholstery, when I can fight off the urge to hibernate! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] hose heater versus block heater?!!
Hi, everyone We too are having issues with our car starting this winter (1980 300 SD). Hubbie put about 4 different hose heaters on it last winter. The last one finally worked once or twice. (We won't mention the local car parts store) We tried it again in November and it seemed to be doing fine and then the morning we had appointments to keep 80 miles away and temp was -20, guess what? Yep-- it didn't work at all. We made it to appointments, but used up our easy travel margin of time for sure!! So, my question is: the block heaters sound more dependable and efficient but hubbie is concerned about problems installing in the old car. He thinks it will be hard to seal up after removing the old plug, which seems to be another big concern, too. Any feedback from you experts? Should we keep trying the hose heaters, and is there one that really works long term?? Thanks for advice! Wishing you all a Wonderful Christmas Season and a Great New Year to come, Christy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
On 10/18/2010 11:14 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: Send Mercedes mailing list submissions to mercedes@okiebenz.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com You can reach the person managing the list at mercedes-ow...@okiebenz.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Mercedes digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: LF RR electric windows in '85 TD (Fmiser) 2. Re: LF RR electric windows in '85 TD (Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310) 3. LF RR electric windows in '85 TD (glenn brown) 4. Re: W123 tow hitch? (Mitch Haley) 5. Re: SLS level control valves [was: OM603 oil pan breech] (Frederick W Moir) 6. What's a 320 coupe worth? (Mitch Haley) 7. Re: What's a 320 coupe worth? (E M) 8. OT Detroit (Kaleb C. Striplin) 9. Re: OT Detroit (Walt Zarnoch) 10. Re: OM603 oil pan breech (OK Don) 11. Re: OM603 oil pan breech (OK Don) 12. Re: 124 Idler Arm Rebuild - grease or no grease? (OK Don) 13. Re: OM603 oil pan breech (Walt Zarnoch) 14. Re: OM603 oil pan breech (OK Don) 15. Re: OM603 oil pan breech (Walt Zarnoch) 16. Re: W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console? (Jim Cathey) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Andrew, it pry's toward the door--- Its just set in the side like a little hidden door. Looks just like the rest of the plastic. Maybe a good flashlight? Just like a search for the arc in Indiana Jones! (A very tiny one!) I don't think it is more than an inch square!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console?
On 10/18/2010 8:09 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: W123 - How to change the PRNDL light in the console? It is so well molded into the side of that console that you can't believe it is there!! Look for a little seam on top. Can sometimes pull it sideways with your fingernail! Think the bulb is about 1/2 inch long. Got mine at O'Reily after looking everywhere for years Good Luck! I was able to reach in by just removing the rubber trim around the top, after I found it the first time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Recipes for Pickled hot peppers and pole beans
On 12:59 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Peter? Peter Piper? Calling Mr. Peter Piper? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Way OT: Recipes for Pickled hot peppers and pole beans This has been a bellwether year for the jalapeno, black Hungarian, cayenne and purple cayenne peppers in the garden. I've never had so many jalapenos turn red - same with the cayennes. I've used up a king's ransom of pectin making hot pepper jelly, so now my attention turns to preserving bushelsful (metaphorically) of hot peppers. Does anyone have a tried and true recipe for picking hot peppers? I would also like to make some dilly beans, but lack a recipe. I want the pickled peppers and beans to be not too sweet, with a touch of garlic. Best recipe wins a delivered jar of my legendary jalapeno pepper jelly, made with no unnatural ingredients Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Andrew, this recipe is in my old Ball Canning book. My Dilly kids really liked them. Hope it works for you! Dilly Beans 2 pounds green beans, trimmed, 1 teaspoon cayenne pepper, 4 cloves garlic, 4 heads dill, 2 1/2 cups water, 2 1/2 cups vinegar, 1/4 cup salt. Pack beans, lengthwise, into hot Ball jars, (as I said, it is a ball book, think I have used other brands of jars successfully!) leaving 1/4 inch head space. To each pint, add 1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper, 1 clove garlic and 1 head dill. Combine remaining ingredients and bring to boiling. Pour, boiling hot, over beans, leaving 1/4 inch head space. Adjust caps, processe pints and quarts 10 minutes in boiling water bath. I add 5 minutes to the water bath because we live at a higher altitude, just to be safe! Yield: about 4 pints. Note: Let beans stand for two weeks before tasting to allow the flavor to develop. These keep for years, if you have any that last that long! Have fun!! Christy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Recipes for Pickled hot peppers and pole beans
On 12:59 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Looks like I was mistaken, the preferred substitution is in fact a tablespoon and a half of dill seed for a dill head. Walt On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Walt Zarnochzarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: If you grow dill in your garden, it's one of the little bundles of dill on the end of the stalk. I'd substitute a half teaspoon of dried dill, more or less to taste. Walt On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:42 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds perfect - but what is a dill head? On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Chris N Johnceand...@tctwest.net wrote: On 12:59 PM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: Peter? Peter Piper? Calling Mr. Peter Piper? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Way OT: Recipes for Pickled hot peppers and pole beans This has been a bellwether year for the jalapeno, black Hungarian, cayenne and purple cayenne peppers in the garden. I've never had so many jalapenos turn red - same with the cayennes. I've used up a king's ransom of pectin making hot pepper jelly, so now my attention turns to preserving bushelsful (metaphorically) of hot peppers. Does anyone have a tried and true recipe for picking hot peppers? I would also like to make some dilly beans, but lack a recipe. I want the pickled peppers and beans to be not too sweet, with a touch of garlic. Best recipe wins a delivered jar of my legendary jalapeno pepper jelly, made with no unnatural ingredients Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Andrew, this recipe is in my old Ball Canning book. My Dilly kids really liked them. Hope it works for you! Dilly Beans 2 pounds green beans, trimmed, 1 teaspoon cayenne pepper, 4 cloves garlic, 4 heads dill, 2 1/2 cups water, 2 1/2 cups vinegar, 1/4 cup salt. Pack beans, lengthwise, into hot Ball jars, (as I said, it is a ball book, think I have used other brands of jars successfully!) leaving 1/4 inch head space. To each pint, add 1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper, 1 clove garlic and 1 head dill. Combine remaining ingredients and bring to boiling. Pour, boiling hot, over beans, leaving 1/4 inch head space. Adjust caps, processe pints and quarts 10 minutes in boiling water bath. I add 5 minutes to the water bath because we live at a higher altitude, just to be safe! Yield: about 4 pints. Note: Let beans stand for two weeks before tasting to allow the flavor to develop. These keep for years, if you have any that last that long! Have fun!! Christy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com You can buy fresh dill heads in most produce sections this time of year Our Walmart even carries it. It adds something to the jars if you can find it, but the seed should work great too! Christy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Computer monitor
Run a want ad in your local papers! We have to pay $10 or $20 to the recyclers to take them. Lots of folks would be happy to hand them over to ya! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: (SPAM?) Re: 116 vacuum?
Jim Cathey wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedDid this get lost? I'll send it again... -- Jim Don't remember 2 red lines. Could they also be the green ones? That sounds kind of familiar though, all the ys and check valves are confusing. Yes, now that I think of it our 114 has green lines for HVAC. The only real 'secret' is that the like-colored lines be together behind check valves. The HVAC and the door locks both have vacuum reservoirs, and they do no good whatsoever if they're not coupled to their consumers. I think everything else doesn't care too much, but of course you don't want something like that engine economy gauge or a diesel key shutoff going to the reservoired vacuum. I'm pretty sure the vacuum feed to the cruise control normally shares the reservoired door lock line. The 'mother lode' diagram seems to be 54-570a, which had vacuum supply diagrams for 107/114/115/116/123 in it, and was found only in the 114 and 116 CD's. I cut out the drawing and attached it here. The associated caption: Central Locking System Model 116 3 Vacuum line (black/yellow) to throttle servo unit 5 Check valve cruise-control/central locking system 6 Vacuum line (white) from vacuum connection -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: vac116.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 21584 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100420/e4f89025/attachment.jpg -- next part -- -- Jim /div Jim, you are truly a great help! I've printed off the pic and instructions /w color code. Bet we can get it now, I'll report in later Didn't get to it yesterday, as it turned out to be a fishing day for hubbie! Lots of big trout at Buffalo Bill Reservoir! Always takes priority to fixing the car, of course! Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB-Tex
Ed Booher wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedSo, does MB sell either direct or via third party the vinyl MB-Tex material? I would like to be able to purchase per yard and stitch new seat covers and such. Note: While I'm sure I can buy W123 seat covers directly it might not be as cost effective. EdB /div I bought leather look vinyl and also perforated vinyl from American Trim Upholstery in Tulsa. They are easy and helpful to work with. The company has a website and also will send samples so you can look over colors and texture. Can't really match a color on a computer monitor. You can get a good idea of the products from the site and an idea of cost. Web address is: http://www.atrim.com/index.html Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 116 vacuum?
Jim Cathey wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedDid whomever it was figure that out? I was just digging in my 107's vacuum system, and I note that the supply line goes to a splitter that feeds two check valves and the gray line to the dash gauge. One check valve feeds a Y feeding the two red HVAC lines. The other feeds a Y that feeds the two yellow door lines. -- Jim /div Thanks Jim, We are still working on it and your suggestions are most helpful! I'll check in the morning and see if that makes sense. Don't remember 2 red lines. Could they also be the green ones? That sounds kind of familiar though, all the ys and check valves are confusing. Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Back to vacuum lines!
Hello helpers! You responded some time ago with diagrams and information about what vac lines (colors) were for and we tried changing the loose hanging ones coming out of the firewall in the engine compartment to see if it would fix some of our problems: The climate control only works on defrost. The cruise controls doesn't work. Anyway, the fix didn't help and the car would not turn off with the key. (Had to use the red stop lever under the hood) So we put it back where it was again. Does anyone have a 1980 300 sd they could take some pics of so we can compare? Ours has been changed so much, prior to our ownership that we are really confused!! Don't even know if the check valves are turned the right way. And again the unconnected green and yellow lines need proper connections. Just don't know where! I think if we can get it right, we can then test and find out if some other repairs need to be done. There is some kind of a ?cutout switch? mounted close by on the firewall that seems to be a safety for the turbo or transmission or something. It appears not to work as it should. Also the tac doesn't work, only once in awhile when it goes crazy and flops around like its possessed. Lots of issues, but we love our car!! Thanks again for help and suggestions. Would really appreciate some photos! Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Vac lines w-116
We have the service manual CD for the W-116. It is some help except it seems there are some variables. Can't decide which way ours should go from the pictures and diagrams. Thought real pics of the same car might be better ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Brake disks/ rotors
Need new brake disks/ rotors on front of my 1980 300sd. What are the best brands and what do the prices run? Thanks again for info! Christy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Malware Defense antiviral software
Hans Neureiter wrote: I used McAfee provided by my SP, but it is annoying since it seems to be doing always something ine the back, bringing whatever I am working on to a crawl. I now use Comodo Secutity (Firewall + Antivirus, Spy and Malware). It's simple, free and runs *in the background*. - Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD '02 RoadKing '72 T100 Daytona On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I think I saw somewhere yesterday that Google was giving out McAfee free for some period to combat some issue with gmail. I might be wrong about the google aspect, but somebody was doing it. --R Facebook is trying to save FACE. They have been sharing lots of stuff you don't want living on your computer! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Do GFCI receptacles go bad?
Max Dillon wrote: I think I've got a bad one. Several weeks ago I had my house power-washed, and the fan in the screened-in back porch got wet and shorted out and tripped the GFCI receptacle. Once I'd figured out the problem and removed the fan, leaving the wires capped with wire nuts and tucked safely into the box, the GFCI would stay reset. Days later it tripped again, but stayed reset after I pushed the button. We were gone from the house for about 10 days, and it had tripped again while we were gone and won't stay reset. Now I double checked the fan box to make sure the wires weren't shorting anywhere, but the GFCI still won't stay reset. If I reset it several times in a row, it will eventually stay reset for an hour or two. So, do these things age and go bad? This one is probably about 15 years old. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 318k miles '95 E300 274k miles project '73 Balboa 20 They sure do go bad. About $65 will replace the unit if you are an electrician. Once they start trippin' its hard to rely on them. They just get more and more touchy. Good luck! A good electrical supply shop should have one on hand. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 76 Mercedes 450SEL 4Dr Sedan, W116 Series - $450 (Mystic, Ct.)
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedI bet its just a regular 4.5. I have seen many 450's being advertised as 6.9's by dumb sellers who dont know any different. E M wrote: for anyone who needs a core 6.9, might be worth the $450. If it runs as he says, bonus. Ed 300E 2009/12/15 Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:08 AM, tom tomscat tomsc...@hotmail.com wrote: http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/1472817360.html Run away! Is that an ordinary 450SEL that some loony converted to a 6.9? (It's missing the 6.9 badge from the trunklid, not that that means much.) If so, I bet that drives like a truck, with the extra weight up front but without the proper Hydromat suspension. Now, if they'd dropped in one of the '80s aluminum-block V-8s instead that would be cool and it wouldn't be worth any less than an unmolested 450. At least he admits it needs a new interior and assorted other little bits. And I bet the climate control servo is shot, so that's $1500 right there. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.716 / Virus Database: 270.14.108/2565 - Release Date: 12/14/09 13:40:00 Pretty sure there wasn't a 6.9 built until late 77. They were actually the 78 model and only 1000 were made. They were all sold before they were produced. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Towing went well!
OK, the SD is in the shop warming up a bit. Seems like the fuel filter is pretty dry. So they are suspecting a bad fuel pump. Where do they hide them on the '80s, does anyone know?!! Our 450 SELs are all real obvious. This one looks to be hidden in the trunk or somewhere back there, right?? Thanks AGAIN, Christy Tow strap worked great, think the guys had a lot of experience with that part. Just didn't want to damage the car by towing, if we shouldn't. Seems most automatics can go a little ways at low speeds. But you almost never have to walk away from a MB!! Maybe this CA car doesn't like WY yet!! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Towing went well!
Mitch Haley wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedDimitri Seretakis wrote: Fuel pump on an SD? I thought that the injection pump served as the fuel pump. The lift pump is attached to the injection pump. If the filter is dry, you're sucking air from somewhere. Could be anything from a damaged line, to sucking fuel from the return line fitting at the tank (which goes dry at 1/4 tank or so), to a plugged tank screen, to poor tank venting, to an empty tank and a stuck fuel gauge. Mitch. /div So we put the new fuel filter on the car. (the one we bought last week and didn't change because it was soo cold) And she started right up! John said the old one was really cruddy. Really appreciate everyones ideas. Guess we need a new primer pump, as it is leaking. Thanks Again, Christy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] towing a 1980 300 SD?
Hi, Guys We are needing to tow our Sadie back home. She broke down out in the toolies. What is safe, without messing up the transmission? We need to go about 5 miles. Or do we need a tow truck? Thanks for info and input, as always!! Christy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seat covers
Curt Raymond wrote: Christy, This is just the stickler in my but purge the word xxx from your lexicon in use with MBs. The vinyl is MB Tex not MBenz-tex which is food or MB-tex which isn't anything... -Curt Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:02:23 -0700 From: Chris N John ceand...@tctwest.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seat covers To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4b17546f.8070...@tctwest.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=O-8859-1; format=flowed Allan Streib wrote: Chris N John ceand...@tctwest.net writes: Are the benz-tex seat covers as good as the original leather? I see them mentioned pretty often but don't know to what they refer? Vinyl? I soon have to replace mine in our 300SD. I think I'll just order leather and make them. But have been curious about the others. Thanks for the info. Christy I think most mercedes that are not S class have MB-Tex not leather. It is a heavy duty vinyl with an embossed grain to look like leather and perforated for breathability. Many people think it is actually leather. It lasts nearly forever in normal use. Allan I really think what we have is leather. It is coming apart and tends to curl and split on the leather grain. I'd like to see some benz-tex but we live in the wilds of Wyoming so getting to a dealer requires a 5 or 6 hundred mile trek. I really appreciate all the opinions and information. As always, you all help with the questions I ask and make the decision of what to do an easier task. Christy Curt, I really apologize if I offended!! My eyes aren't so good. And I really thought that was a proper reference. I'll make corrections now, but don't think I can do anything about the ones I already sent. Am truly sorry!!! Christy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Seat covers
Are the tex-mex seat covers as good as the original leather? I see them mentioned pretty often but don't know to what they refer? Vinyl? I soon have to replace mine in our 300SD. I think I'll just order leather and make them. But have been curious about the others. Thanks for the info. Christy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seat covers
Allan Streib wrote: Chris N John ceand...@tctwest.net writes: Are the tex-mex seat covers as good as the original leather? I see them mentioned pretty often but don't know to what they refer? Vinyl? I soon have to replace mine in our 300SD. I think I'll just order leather and make them. But have been curious about the others. Thanks for the info. Christy I think most mercedes that are not S class have MB-Tex not leather. It is a heavy duty vinyl with an embossed grain to look like leather and perforated for breathability. Many people think it is actually leather. It lasts nearly forever in normal use. Allan I really think what we have is leather. It is coming apart and tends to curl and split on the leather grain. I'd like to see some benz-mex but we live in the wilds of Wyoming so getting to a dealer requires a 5 or 6 hundred mile trek. I really appreciate all the opinions and information. As always, you all help with the questions I ask and make the decision of what to do an easier task. Christy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vac and heating troubles
Jim Cathey wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedThey're color-coded. The green one is getting no vacuum, so your HVAC is stuck on defrost. I think the yellow/brown line is the one to the vacuum reservoir for the locks. Two check valves in parallel is obviously wrong. For starters I'd unhook one of the check valves at the yellow end and put it to the green line, and hook up yellow/brown in its place so that all the door (yellow-bearing) lines were together, along with the black/yellow (cruise actuator). -- Jim /div Thanks Jim, I printed it out and am headed for the car! Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Vac and heating troubles
Hi, Guys We are still having some vacuum issues and not sure what to hook up where. Think someone messed with the lines before we got the car! Can I post a pic or two and get some feedback on where the two lines that aren't connected, should be?? There are so many different diagrams on my cd manual that we can't figure which one is THE one to use. Since mostly it is functional, except door locks weird and heater won't work only on DEF. Hate to just experiment! Can you help?? Thanks again! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Still Trying To Steer!
Has anyone done a rebuild on a 116/123 steering box? Does it take lotsa special tools? We really need some advice!! Thanks Leaking fluid out the bottom seal, trick shift slows it some, but it needs work! Almost 500,000 miles on our Sadie, can't give up yet!! Chris I have the kit and parts diagram, just no instructions ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rebuild a steering box?
Mighty MB gurus! Once again I address you to aid us in our ongoing quest to make these cars keep going, just a little longer- Our '74 450 SEL with only 480,000 miles on it has sprung a leak in the steering box seal. We have a kit for it and the box is on the ground. Any advise about how to proceed. Does it take special tools? Can't find out any rebuild instructions on the CD I have. I await your most welcome comments!! -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090807/78481f32/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vacuum lines??
Jim Cathey wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedGreens are HVAC of some sort. Yellow/brown would have been a door locking reservoir line. This is a 116, right? -- Jim /div Yes it is. We suspect someone rearranged the lines to make something work that they needed and left others dangling. We'd like everything to work as it should, of course. (Dreaming???) But unsure how the original hookup was. Thanks Again for input Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Vacuum lines??
Our 300 SD (1980) has 2 vacuum lines coming through the firewall that were never connected to anything since we've had the car. 1 is green with black line and 1 is yellow with a brown line. Can't find reference in my cd of these colors and what components they should make work. There are several problems with the vac system on the car, so we are not sure what is what. Does someone know if there is a definite code for these colors? Thanks Again, you guys are awesome! Christy -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090508/f9142786/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slipping transmission 1980 300D
Douglas wrote: I have hhad the tranny slipping for a few weeks now changed the fluid and put in the conditioner but still slips. Went to the local indy and they said to replace it, it would be $4300. I took it to Aamco and they started with the story to rebuild it. Though they to came back a day later with replacing it for $3500. Not sure what to do now. Have seen a place that transmissions on craigslist down in Hayward CA am going to give them a call. Any ideas? Douglas -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090429/7094179d/attachment.html Did you change the filter also. We have an 80 SD and once the filter and fluid was changed, it worked without slipping. Love those Sadies -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090429/3f361b7a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Climate Control Advise PLEASE!
*Oh mighty MB gurus, * You are so knowledgeable about so many subjects. Have really enjoyed the issues you have covered lately!! Really need some ideas and advise. Have some vague thoughts and need better, because these systems are so involved, any experiences will give us more informed places to start looking! Heres the scene: we have an 80 300 SD. Five button and temp roller, ac off on switch. We kept warm all winter with the defrost. Can hear the air con. compressor kick in and the glass eye shows it is charged with whatever they are charged with,to the proper level. We are starting to think that we will want to have air and occasionally heat cause it is getting warmer and the only air flow we can control is sunroof and and windows. ( glad _they_ work great!) Do any of you have input about these critters?! Thanks a million, Christy PS: Our son is pretty handy and re-soldered (sp?) connections in the control unit. Seems to have vac resistance when the heat buttons are pushed in. Thanks in advance, look forward to the e-exchanges!!! -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090413/5f7ab870/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
