Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer
I went ahead about bought that $399 e machine with the dual core AMD etc. Now, should I just wipe everything out and install XP, or keep Vista? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer Microcenter and Fry's have some cheap mobo/processor combos, then get some memory, and you can use your older stuff with a new faster board. You might need a new video card too, the new boards are all PCI-E, and that might demand a more powerful power supply. But you can kind of sneak up on stuff if you want to fool around with it. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea, thats kind of what Im thinking. I could spend $100 or so on a new hard drive, or spend 3-400 on a whole new deal and wipe the old box, start it over and use it for a 2nd machine. On second thought, since your current box is so old, I'd recommend just getting a new PC. As you note, there are lots of low cost boxes available. They may not be the latest technology (so what!) but they are a quantum leap from what you have now and will fix your problem fast and for sure. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 13:27 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT, replace computer So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it in 01. It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something like that, 7xx meg ram. i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great 24/7 since. Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that no problems. Current problem is of course software related, but thinking about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them moving over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the vista crap, and install XP. Office depot has this on sale, look like a POS? Seems cheap: http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD -Processor/ If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now, will these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a ATA drive? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer
Is XP 64 bit or what? Or is just vista 64 bit? What are the advantages? I am way behind the times. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer You need a SATA controller to use SATA drives. All the current machines that have SATA also have an ATA or IDE connector on the motherboard for use with cd drives. That will allow you to connect your old disk to copy stuff over. Any current machine you buy will be 64 bit. You might as well load an x64 version of windows since Microsoft has yet to come out with any upgrade path from x86 to x64. Soon, you will only be able to get x64 versions of Windows. Neither Intel or AMD are making any more x86 CPU's - except for specialty dedicated controllers. As a side note, Small Business Server 2008 will be released only as an x64 version (Exchange 2007 is x64 only). Anyone running SBS now will need to do a complete reinstall to move to SBS2008. There is no upgrade. They bumped the Premium version of SBS2008 to run on 2 servers and are coming out with a new product called EBS2008 (Essential Business Server) that will run on 3 (standard) or 4 (premium) servers. The only drawback I see on that eMachine is a limit of 2-gig of ram. These days, that's not much and may not be enough to run the next version of Windows. Personally, I'd go with an Asus M2A-VM and an athlon x2 6400 dual-core cpu. They are dirt cheap now. That will play HD and Blu-ray on you nice TV. The motherboard comes with an OEM version of CyberLink. You need that to play high def and costs more than the motherboard is selling for now. -Dave Walton On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it in 01. It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something like that, 7xx meg ram. i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great 24/7 since. Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that no problems. Current problem is of course software related, but thinking about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them moving over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the vista crap, and install XP. Office depot has this on sale, look like a POS? Seems cheap: http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD-Processor/ If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now, will these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a ATA drive? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer
I have XP pro sp2, is that 64 bit? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer There are 64bit versions of XP. I think vista requires 64bit. Any modern CPU is going to be 64bit. The major advantages is the ability to use more than 2GB of memory at a time. -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Is XP 64 bit or what? Or is just vista 64 bit? What are the advantages? I am way behind the times. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, replace computer You need a SATA controller to use SATA drives. All the current machines that have SATA also have an ATA or IDE connector on the motherboard for use with cd drives. That will allow you to connect your old disk to copy stuff over. Any current machine you buy will be 64 bit. You might as well load an x64 version of windows since Microsoft has yet to come out with any upgrade path from x86 to x64. Soon, you will only be able to get x64 versions of Windows. Neither Intel or AMD are making any more x86 CPU's - except for specialty dedicated controllers. As a side note, Small Business Server 2008 will be released only as an x64 version (Exchange 2007 is x64 only). Anyone running SBS now will need to do a complete reinstall to move to SBS2008. There is no upgrade. They bumped the Premium version of SBS2008 to run on 2 servers and are coming out with a new product called EBS2008 (Essential Business Server) that will run on 3 (standard) or 4 (premium) servers. The only drawback I see on that eMachine is a limit of 2-gig of ram. These days, that's not much and may not be enough to run the next version of Windows. Personally, I'd go with an Asus M2A-VM and an athlon x2 6400 dual-core cpu. They are dirt cheap now. That will play HD and Blu-ray on you nice TV. The motherboard comes with an OEM version of CyberLink. You need that to play high def and costs more than the motherboard is selling for now. -Dave Walton On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my computer that I have been having all the trouble with, I built it in 01. It was pretty top of the line then, amd 1.6 processor, something like that, 7xx meg ram. i beefed it up pretty good and it has run great 24/7 since. Have had to replace a few power supplies but other than that no problems. Current problem is of course software related, but thinking about either replacing its hard drive and start from scratch, them moving over what I need, or just buying a whole new computer, wiping out the vista crap, and install XP. Office depot has this on sale, look like a POS? Seems cheap: http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/109410/T3646-Desktop-Computer-With-AMD-Processor/ If I go with a new drive, mine is ATA, but I see SATA looks like now, will these SATA drives work with my ATA controller or will I have to find a ATA drive? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mechanics lean - need advise
Im sorry to have to say this, but people that stupid should just be put out of their missery. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:18 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mechanics lean - need advise Gee... For some reason this reminded me of a story.. as an electrical contractor. Couple bought a house. After moving in the wife discovered the freezer in the basement had quit working and the contents had spoiled. (Not a large loss.) She tells the husband who discovers that none of the electrical receptacles in that area of the basement were working. The rather dominant wife (SWMBO) incites the husband. Rather than simply look into the homeowner's warranty, they go straight for the big guns and have their attorney send registered letters to the real estate agents. Communication is pretty much broken down with no attempt to simply solve the problem first. The previous owners have moved out of town but the new homeowners try to engage the original builder with accusations of faulty wiring etc. Never mind that the house now two years old passed all inspections. As a favor to the general contractor I agreed to make a polite service call just to see if there was a simple solution. The homeowners wouldn't allow me to enter on the first trip but insisted that both real estate agents had to be present. The new homeowners are satisfied with nothing less than we'll sue!!! What did I discover? It was obvious that code would require a GFIC device on the receptacles with the unfinished concrete floor. I located it hidden behind stacks of moving boxes. The husband had plugged an extension cord into an outdoor receptacle which was protected by the same device. When he had plugged his block heater in on his diesel the frayed cord on the car had caused the device to trip. I was amused! All that was necessary was to press the reset button on the device. Imagine everyone's response, the appetite for crow ..his pennance of having to live with that barracuda. What added to the amusement was that the husband didn't realise that the hard cold morning starts were related to his block heater not getting electricity and was blaming the mechanic, trying to hold him liable for the problem with the car. From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:49:32 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mechanics lean - need advise the M16 just never works out in this modern age. you just get dragged off to jail and/or the looney bin. people you don't even remember ever meeting come of of the woodwork and tell the news how they knew hans would snap long ago. the shop still keeps your car. due to the bimby business, i have had some contact with mechanics of the sort who do not actually practice their trade as a professional business. as they have no tax id number, most wholesale houses will not sell to them. or perhaps they buy in such small volume that they can still buy cheaper from us than from the wholesaler. i've had the following conversation on more than one occassion. yeah, i need a fuel distributor for that car i've been working on why do you think that? well, i replaced a, b and c and that didn't fix it, so it has to be the fuel distributor no it doesn't, but i'll send you one anyway ok, so then he installs the fuel distributor and it doesn't help. but he has 500 in that part and his customer has 800 in it. so he actually does the work and really figures out what the problem is. costs $3 to fix. car runs great. customer has spend $1500 for a part requiring a $3 part and 2 hours of real diagnostics and thinks his mechanic is a genius. i cant tell you a one of stories like this. auto repair is a pretty crooked enterprise. know who you are dealing with and pay attention. On Jan 23, 2008 12:31 AM, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary; you are right. This kind of thing happened to me some 20 years ago. Alfa Romeo Giulia sprint GT Veloce (what a machine). Rebuilt the motor, but I could not get the damned thing to run right. Took it to Forristalls. Drove it there. They insisted it need s a rebuild. 2 weeks later I had to pay their labor and expenses, some $ 2500 (in 1986, mind you) and had to get a tow truck to get it home. They broke the front cover by standing on the alternator. After I replaced the front engine cover a buddy of mine made a small adyustmet to the IP rack and the thing took off like a rocket. I sued. The Court notified me that the Constable could not serve the papers. No body here with this name. I think it's time to load the M16 On 1/22/08, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we all know, hans, that
Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control
Please tell me you are kidding. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: hans hansel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control I just purchased a CC amp from Autohaus AZ for $195 plus a $75 refundable core deposit. Put it in my 300td and it works perfectly. Hans Hansel - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] Cruise Control Not a priority I can afford immediately, but I've been thinking of using the process of elimination to get the cruise control working on one of the cars. It's not the type of thing that I'd pay premium to the indy to work through and I'm not adept nor ambitious enough to arm myself with the solder iron yet. I figure I buy a tested (working) amp, trade it out on one of the cars and go from there. If there's success maybe the old core can be repaired to replace another. SO... Who? Where? How much? Thanks! Tim 1985 300D 324K 1985 300D 223K 1985 300D 124K 1984 300D 233K ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MERCEDES 300SE for $1,025.00
Salvage title, premium gas, will get about the same mpg as a 420 but with a lot less power, probably about due for a tranny. Its a 5-800 car. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: [MBZ] 1990 MERCEDES 300SE for $1,025.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280191533390 Any comments? Type of gasoline? MPG? Transmission slipping? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl questions
3k is a pretty good price for what he is describing. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 sdl questions Price is high unless it is in extremely good condition. I have 2 of them and they are a pleasure to work on. -Dave Walton On Jan 15, 2008 2:36 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found an 87 300 SDL locally. Saw it go by one night and have contacted on for sale sign. 307K highway miles- first owner bought it new drove it to MBCA events, second owner drove it from FL to RI-brother of original owner. Current owner inherited it last year. . Asking $3k or offer-seems cheap. Will go this weekend do the usual vetting. Any model specific issues here? ACC? OM603 head number? Since it has a one-family, MB fan history, I suspect service records are available. If I buy it, I will have to buy a new driveway too. TIA Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 215K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles (FOR SALE) 1990 300D 2.5t 150K miles Wickford, RI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Now I have Linux Mepis
Why dont you post this in the Linux list? http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/linux_okiebenz.com --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 4:51 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Now I have Linux Mepis I got it to run on the CD though I do not really see what to click on to install it on the Hard drive. Do I need to format the hard drive first? Douglas ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New Gm Diesel has no Manifolds
They run one center mounted turbo now, at least mine does --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Gm Diesel has no Manifolds It has manifolds. The exhaust manifold is in the center, where the intake would be and the intake manifolds are incorporated in the cam covers. They did this to cut cost. The design lets them run one center mounted turbo instead of two, one on each side. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] S124 300TE low miles $850
That was me, and I would be all over it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 7:37 PM Subject: [MBZ] S124 300TE low miles $850 I remember somebody saying this week that its a pity there was never a 300TE 2.5 in the USA. I'm now struggling to ignore that little voice that's telling me to buy this heap and stuff my 190D engine in it. http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=BM2480089 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 240D engine is REALLY *LOUD*..
#1 piston probably has a problem. Does it idle rough too? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 1:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] 240D engine is REALLY *LOUD*.. My son sent me an instant message yesterday saying the 240D was trailing some blue smoke and smelled like it was burning oil. When I got home last night I started it up and popped the hood. Engine is running a lot louder than it had been. It was night, so it's hard to be definitive but it did seem to be spewing a little more smoke than normal and it did smell of burning oil. The oil level (I checked it before I started after the car sat on the flat for 7 hours) was down a bit from where it was when I brought the level back up a few days back. We checked under the air filter and there wasn't much oil sitting there, so I don't think that's the culprit. I did notice pretty significant blow-by when I pulled the oil fill cap while the engine was running at fast idle. So I have more smoke, some oil smell in the exhaust, lower oil level on the dipstick, more noise - almost like a loud rap, and lots of cam oil pressure. Any thoughts? Could it be as simple as a valve nut that wasn't tightened up enough and now has moved? The sound I'm hearing seems to be coming from a single piston - that is, it's regular but I don't think it happens every time a piston fires. ...Kevin (who'll be checking valve clearances tonight) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I guess 126 seats will fit in a 116
just install the track etc from the 116 I would guess --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I guess 126 seats will fit in a 116 Aren't the front seats in a W126 powered? So, how does this guy adjust them? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 coupe electrical confusion
Your reostat is flaky --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther - laptop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 coupe electrical confusion So, tonight I fire up my car, and no dash lights etc. BLEH!!! Part the way through my drive they started working. Change from last night? It was more than 70 degrees last night, now it's barely 40 Could this be temp related?? ARGH!! Luther, with quotes from Charlie Brown and Garfield. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost
yes, DHS has been called many times on them and they never took the kids away. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost I agree with Don. Child Services (DHR in Alabama) is the most over worked government organization in any state. The problem is that the workers have to obtain unrefutable evidence then they have to present the evidence to a Judge the judge has to issue a court order to have the child or children removed. All of this is necessary because of our lawsuit happy society. The Chld Services workers have to protect themselves from being sued by the parents of the children they are trying to protect. Based on Kaleb's his Wive's comments on the kid's overall condition, Kaleb's new family are a likely good example of the system failing. It's possible that the family had been investigated but Child Services could not put together enough evidence to convince a judge to issue a court order. But it's just as likely that they were never investigated because of the work load most Child Services must carry. My Niece was removed from her Mother 4 years too late - She was 13 years old. Kaleb's new family are younger and they have a chance to make a difference. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 1/7/08 9:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:Unified Germany - I thought the communists lost google georgia dfcs and you will have enough kidnap stories to fill a book. children are kidnapped for reasons such as there were scissors in the house. we have a customer at bimby who drives an S600 from being a professional foster parent. tom, who works at bimby, has personal knowledge of such kidnappings for profit from his days working retail, where many of his employees had second incomes from keeping a kid or two locked obtained by predatory means in the closet when they went to work. what's next for you to say? that we are in iraq to save the world from terrorism? child welfare worker, right. insult someone elses intelligence On Jan 7, 2008 9:05 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kidnapped Have you seen how bad it has to get before the kids are removed from a home? That's the LAST resort. Wittness the LACK of response to the ealrier reports to child wlefare about Kaleb's new kids. Follow a child welfare worker around for a few days - it'll open your eyes. We don't pay enough for a foster family to take proper care of kids, can't find enough homes for the kids that need them. So you get what you pay for - those who do take them have other motives than the kids best welfare in mind. On Jan 7, 2008 7:58 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about the kids that are kidnapped and farmed out to abusive foster homes by their friends in the government (i would presume that these government agents get some kind of kickback, but don't know how the details work)? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
I have one I will trade for a wagon. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report That's more what I would expect from a 2.5L in good shape! I almost wish I'd bought one instead of another 3.0L. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed)
That I dont remember, seems like it though. Although I do remember him saying it has been replaced when he got it or something like that. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:35 AM Subject: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed) I think the head gasket was starting to let go right at the end .. or am I thinking of someone else? Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think he traded it for an exploder --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasser info needed SO look for an SLC, a 380SE, 500 to 560 SEL, or the rarer 300SE od SEL. Does Snook still have one for sale? -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
32 or 33 is about tops. I have never heard of anybody else getting 37.4. Thats about what a 190D auto will get. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report WOW! 37.4 mpg is very good! I assume it's a Turbo? The best my '91 300D 2.5T has gotten since I bought it in Feb 06 has been around 32 or 33 mpg. You need to keep that 300D in great condition!! It's a keeper! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gasser info needed
I think he traded it for an exploder --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasser info needed SO look for an SLC, a 380SE, 500 to 560 SEL, or the rarer 300SE od SEL. Does Snook still have one for sale? On Jan 8, 2008 7:33 AM, Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes. Sorry for quoting the whole digest! On Jan 7, 2008, at 9:28 PM, David Bruckman wrote: Not to put a damper on things, but despite its size the W201 is a much safer car than a W123. The W123 was the last MB that was not specifically designed for offset frontal impact (that started with the 126 and 201). The 123 also doesn't have seatbelt pre- tensioners, airbags, or ABS. And you can forget the 115. Those cars predate the construction of MB's crash engineering facility (1968), so a lot of the safety engineering was done under pretty primitive conditions. Your best bet might be a W124. The size feels like a W123 but the crash performance is as good as a W126. I know, I know. I've seen the video, know the MB crash data. But this a perceptual, not a rational, decision. SHe wants old and cute. Hubcaps match the paint, no bundt wheels. Hefty and sturdy feeling. I'd get a 124 in a new york minute, but this isn't my car. Showed her pix of a 201 last night. Too generic. Looks like every other car. Anything designed after the 126 gets that reaction. So, I'm enjoying the challenge of the search. D -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jersey 300 SDL
No telling what the reserve is --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: [MBZ] Jersey 300 SDL Scant on pics and details, claims to have all records. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/87-Mercedes-Benz-300-SDL-Great-Daily-Driver-No-Rust_W0QQitemZ250203628095QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
uh, no. Just filled up the 92, got 32mpg mixed city/highway. WOW. I sure dont know why they never had a 2.5 wagon. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report Kaleb wrote: I have one I will trade for a wagon. How about trading for a very nice 1997 Ford Explorer 4X4? It's like a tall wagon. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed)
Yea, OK, I remember now. Wasnt the head done not too long before you got it also? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed) Allen S. wrote: 'I think the head gasket was starting to let go right at the end .. or am I thinking of someone else? Yes. It blew a head gasket and needed a new head. I traded it for an Expedition. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed)
got ya --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Snook's 300SEL (was: Re: Gasser info needed) Kaleb wrote: That I dont remember, seems like it though. Although I do remember him saying it has been replaced when he got it or something like that. The valve job had been done while it was under warranty at 77,000 miles. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
I dont know what OK Dons secret is/was --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report Thx Kaleb - I was wondering if something was wrong ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report 32 or 33 is about tops. I have never heard of anybody else getting 37.4. Thats about what a 190D auto will get. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report WOW! 37.4 mpg is very good! I assume it's a Turbo? The best my '91 300D 2.5T has gotten since I bought it in Feb 06 has been around 32 or 33 mpg. You need to keep that 300D in great condition!! It's a keeper! Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids
--- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Regina Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 2:07 PM Subject: [Banned] Pictures of Christmas 2007-Kids Just thought I would share with you some pictures of our newest editions for Chistmas etc. You guys helped make this possible and we thank you all for your help and continured support! Regina ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 014.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59121 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 015.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59870 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0001.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 61192 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0002.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 002.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 155020 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0003.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 003.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 160761 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0004.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 004.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 143655 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0005.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 005.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58533 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0006.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 007.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58681 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0007.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 008.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 58459 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0008.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 009.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 59415 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0009.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 010.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 146234 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0010.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 011.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 150505 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0011.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 012.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 157293 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0012.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Christmas 2007 and First Day of School 013.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 149184 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080108/c56fd0f6/attachment-0013.jpg
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
I call BS, there is no way in hell it will --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report Guy at work has a 116 300SD and claims it'll do 30mpg. However I know the odo doesn't work in it. He says well I can drive 500 miles between fillups. By which he means City x and city y are about 500 miles apart. Playing a little bit loose wiht the amount you fill up or the distance traveled very quickly creates very good mpg... -Curt Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 13:09:20 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original I dont know what OK Dons secret is/was --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report
yea, thats more typical. On my 32mpg 2.5 turbo, that is driving about 75 --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy report Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I call BS, there is no way in hell it will I got 28MPG in my SD before. Once. I had the cruise set on 60MPH the entire time. It was the tank after I left your place... I had that huge oil leak where if I went above 60MPH oil poured out... Normally I get 23 on the highway (~80MPH) and about 19 in town. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: What WERE they thinking....
Surely there is a joke pic or something somewhere showing a cockpit with the BSOD --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: What WERE they thinking I just hope they are not running windows. A BSOD at 30,000 feet could really spoil your day. -Dave Walton On Jan 8, 2008 4:40 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2008/01/dreamliner_security Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT/ my nephew
I probably approved it since it was replying to a related thread. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 10:34 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT/ my nephew Hey Mr. Jim...was the Tim that was on earlier today related to you? Bob R Bob/Chuck/Kaleb, Yes, Tim Friesen is my 40 year old nephew.? When I sent the errant message about the Dakar rally to the list, I copied Tim, and my brother, Tom (Tim's Dad), and my son, Eric.? Tim must have hit reply to all when he wanted us to know that the Dakar was canceled. How his message reached the Okibenz list is certainly curious.? Tim?is a Ford man, with a chipped diesel F250 crew cab, big tires and a 6 lift.? Kaleb?? Any ideas? Jim in Phoenix Jim in Phoenix More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 mpg was Re: 2.5 turbo
you know, lost is the big mbz.org crash. I might have a backup at home but I doubt it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 mpg was Re: 2.5 turbo Link doesn't work, don't know if you have a backup of that site or not, but here's the message: Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 11:43:28 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [DIESEL] I tested my wagon's load capacity today http://striplin.mbz.org/funny/wagonoverload/ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD 81 240D, 76 240D, 74 240D, 72 300SEL 4.5 On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 04:53:37PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: yep. I just looked hard and I couldnt find it. Im sure if somebody has mail back that far its there. Would be from me, something about 300td suspension test or something like that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad motor and its still going for this much?
Why was it said they could not be sleeved? Do the 3.0 603's have sleeves? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] bad motor and its still going for this much? Marshall said that Mercedes did not disclose everything they did while remanufacturing the engine. It was thus impossible for any aftermarket shop to do the same job. He also pointed out that Mercedes later reversed themselves and started sleeving the engines during remanufacture. -Dave Walton On Jan 3, 2008 8:55 PM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Hargrave wrote: Marshall stated that the factory rebuilt replacement engine solved the bent rod issue. This does not keep an independent from purchasing the redesigned rods rebuilding an engine that will last just as long. It does if they can't bore or resleeve the cylinders. I don't remember the details, but Marshall was of the opinion that only the factory was able to recondition the 350 blocks so that they lasted like a new engine. (or did the factory simply use a new block with the old crank etc?) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is anybody sniping this?
I have been watching it but not going after it, too far away and no money. Its a good deal though if it stays that cheap --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] Is anybody sniping this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=140194208057ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123 Seems like the price is sitting mighty low... Wish I had time to run down and check it out before the auction closed. Still in the pics its in better shape than mine. If it could be had for $2k it'd be quite a steal. I'm thinking maybe bidding is slow because its been so cold here Anyway I'm gonna setup a snipe now. If you'd already set yours email me... We can flip a coin or something. -Curt - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ACC acting up again ('84 300DT)
Did you check to see if it was drawing air in thru the temp sensor on the
dash
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- Original Message -
From: Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:20 PM
Subject: [MBZ] ACC acting up again ('84 300DT)
I had Stip-Eze'd and resoldered the ACC PBU PCB some years back and it was
working fine until I drove to Pbgh. for Christmas. The heat seemed to
function correctly at something less than the maximum heat setting for
1/2-1
hour and then the heat gradually disappeared. I had to swith the thumb
wheel past the click stop to max heat in order to get heat again. The
problem is that all I could get was max heat, as the heat would disappear
at
any setting lower than max heat so I had to keep switching the heat on/off
for the entire trip. I pulled the ACC PB unit while in Pbgh. and cleaned
all the pin contacts, including those from the thumb wheel to the PCB, and
thought I had solved the problem with a short (~5mi.) ride to determine if
the heat functioned correctly at anything lower than the max heat setting.
Upon leaving for my return trip to NC on Jan. 1, I found the ACC system
doing the same thing as the heat would disappear at any thumb wheel
setting
lower than max heat so I was forced to turn the heat off/on for the entire
return trip as well. Anybody got any ideas? TIA.
G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC
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Re: [MBZ] OU stinking up the tostitos again!
There was an article in the Tulsa World the other day about a new website that you can go to that tells what the state spend money on, who gets paid what etc. OU pres Boren gets something like 30k a month, the coach gets 209k a month. wow. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OU stinking up the tostitos again! I live in Norman - son goes to OU - and we always hope for a poor coach and losing season - so there's less traffic in town. On Jan 3, 2008 4:45 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Donald, you aren't an OK booster by any chance? If so I bet you are gonna try REAL hard to have Stoops canned after that dismal performance last night! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT booting from a floppy
I have gone into the repair deal, but iirc, it take you to a command prompt thing and from there I have not been able to figure out. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT booting from a floppy Hi Kaleb, It's been a while since I tried it, but IIRC, when the XP Install window opens, you get a choice of Installing, Repairing or Uninstalling. It's been a while. You're probaby just not seeing it. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT booting from a floppy I guess I am stupid, I have tried the repair deal and I never can figure out how to use it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT booting from a floppy OK, got this computer that runs xp that has been screwing up now wont boot because its missing a file. OK, no big deal I think. I will make a boot disk an copy the file in from dos and see what happens. Wrong. Computer boots up but will not let me switch to the partition I need to get to the windows directory. My kids computer did the same thing. I ended up doing a repair install with the XP cd. Worked like a champ. However, there was a problem with windows update after that. I had to re-register some dlls. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 1/2/2008 11:29 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 mpg was Re: 2.5 turbo
Yea, thats what I figured. Those were lost. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 mpg was Re: 2.5 turbo Link doesn't work, don't know if you have a backup of that site or not, but here's the message: Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 11:43:28 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [DIESEL] I tested my wagon's load capacity today http://striplin.mbz.org/funny/wagonoverload/ -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 81 300TD 81 240D, 76 240D, 74 240D, 72 300SEL 4.5 On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 04:53:37PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: yep. I just looked hard and I couldnt find it. Im sure if somebody has mail back that far its there. Would be from me, something about 300td suspension test or something like that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad motor and its still going for this much?
No, factory engines have the updated rods. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] bad motor and its still going for this much? Allan wrote: Meanwhile that 350SD with the new motor sits below $4K... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2601984253 55 If I had an extra 5K (and if I could confirm that it really is a FACTORY rebuild) I would snatch that car up. Didn't Marshall always say that even if these cars were rebuilt by anyone but the factory 80% of them would fail again? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mail System Error - Returned Mail
yea, I think so, in any case, nothing I can do about it from my end. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mail System Error - Returned Mail I got tons of them today. One for each post I've made to the list. IIRC Barry says its not/wasn't him and Kaleb says that account isn't on the list anyway. Which makes me thing somebody's email has a virus or something. -Curt Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 04:49:24 -0500 From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mail System Error - Returned Mail To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original ATTENTION! BARRY STARK --- Got several of these to which submissions to MBZ were attached. Gerry . - Original Message - From: Mail Administrator Postmaster@PostmasterDomain To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:17 AM Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: The user(s) account is temporarily over quota. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please reply to Postmaster@PostmasterDomain if you feel this message to be in error. - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coffee is hot
Well, they do have some salads I suppose you could eat and be healthy --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coffee is hot People who want to eat healthy food have nothing to do with McDonald's at all. Changing what they fry the food in or how they make milkshakes is just a marketing gimmick to attract fat slobs that think having a diet coke with their fat-burger will make a difference. Use common sense - saving a half gram of fat on your fries when the burger has over 150% of the USDA recommended calories from fat for the whole frigging day still leaves you obese. If you are on a healthy diet - McDonald's has NOTHING to offer you, regardless of the serving size. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (NE) Customer Complaint - Store 3212
I think it might have been even lower than that. I know the grocery store I used to work for if we had more than 1 or 2 people in line, we would get somebody else up there to check. Now days when I have been in there its gone down hill quite a bit since they just have kids running it now. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (NE) Customer Complaint - Store 3212 Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: They have 2 lanes open in the whole store, lines a mile long, all the self checkout lanes are closed. Stupid. It used to bug me when the local WallyWorld had the self-checks closed most of the time. They seem to have fixed that. Remember when Sam Walton was alive, and it was a well-advertised corporate policy that if there were more than X people in any checkout line, a new checkout would be opened? I think X=4 or X=6. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT HDTV
I am really happy with the Toshiba 65 DLP 1080P. If I get one for the bedroom, I will go with a cheaper 720P probably. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:38 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT HDTV A few weeks back we were discussing HDTVs. I had bought a Vizio 32 720P for the bedroom, a good deal at Sams. Well right before Christmas the thing started locking up when attempting to access certain channels, couldn't turn it off, no buttons worked, gray screen of death. Did a little intertubes research and discovered this appears to be a common problem with this brand, something about bad firmware in the controller. Took it back (no questions asked, didn't even look in the box) and got a Samsung, which was a bit more, but this appears to be a nicer unit, better picture, similar features. I got a DVD player for it too, awesome picture. I think on the smaller screens, 720P is quite adequate as your eyes probably can't resolve any more pixels anyway, from a bedroom distance. On a bigger screen the 1080P would probably be the better choice. YMMV. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (NE) Customer Complaint - Store 3212
I emailed corporate about our Claremore walmart. On xmas eve, they closed at 6, we were there at 5 and they had nearly all the lights out. At about 5:30 they started turning the rest of the lights off and telling people they had to get out. If they were not in line at a certain time they could not buy their stuff. When I was in the retail business, at whatever time we closed people could continue coming in up till then and continue shopping past close. That is the proper way to do it. The local manager called me back trying to kiss ass. Fixing to email them again about the walmart down the road from the office. Was just there the other day, and again today. They have 2 lanes open in the whole store, lines a mile long, all the self checkout lanes are closed. Stupid. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (NE) Customer Complaint - Store 3212 Wonko the Sane wrote: Trust me on this one, Curt. I've worked at a retail chain store (Pamida). You would not realize it from the automated reply you received but the District Manager will be showing your input to the local Store Manager and asking for an explanation. Debbie and I once emailed corporate office of a restaurant chain because of a bad experience. We received an autoreply email but then a phone call -- apologizing -- from the restaurant's manager, and then coupons for free meals came by mail. I would also like to say that you can do this with Wal-Mart. Long story short, go to walmart.com and find their 800 number... The offending store will call you back and beg and plead to do whatever it was they gave you the finger for earlier. I've done it once myself, and heard it many times from my late wife who worked there as an asst. manager intern. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT HDTV
So when the change happens next year, what sort of converter box will a person need. If a person has digital cable with a digital cable box, will their old TV still work? What if they have dish network or something, will that work as well since its digital? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT HDTV Well, you have a point there, for some viewers and viewing experiences a plain old TV is just fine. But NTSC is going away next year with the conversion to digital, technology marches forward. I do like the new TVs though, the picture is quite nice and much better than the old tubes. We were watching the Twilight Zone marathon on SciFi the other day, one of them that was filmed on video came on, and my wife said, Hey look, that one is in HD! Uh, no, but, the contrast between the film and video versions of the shows (still B/W) was quite stark (the video was not very good but it was sharp). Too funny. I suppose back in 1962 or whenever it was, people were all jazzed up about video. Yesterday I took apart and scavenged bits from an old little Toshiba tube TV we used in the kitchen, it finally started acting funky after maybe 12 yr. I was amazed at how little was actually in the electronics in there. Most of it was a big heavy glass tube. Anyway I got some good parts, and a nice bit of copper windings from the tube. H, maybe a Tesla coil coming up? --R Allan Streib wrote: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think on the smaller screens, 720P is quite adequate as your eyes probably can't resolve any more pixels anyway, from a bedroom distance. On a bigger screen the 1080P would probably be the better choice. I think plain old NSTC is just fine. HDTV seems to be being forced upon us though, if I believed in conspiracies I'd say that the consumer electronics companies are sitting pretty on this one. Hey, now that we have TVs in 99% of households, let's change the signal standard so that everone will be forced to buy a new television. Oh and let's change the DVD standard too so everyone will have to buy new players and new discs. Had a fight with a damn DVD last night, would not get past the main menu probably because of a hairline scratch or fingerprint on the disk. I miss VHS. I'd opt out entirely except I'd have a revolt on my hands with the rest of the family. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (NE) Customer Complaint - Store 3212
Well back then it probably wasnt a whole lot more than min wage, but we did have benefits. From what I understand they dont offer ins to employees anymore. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (NE) Customer Complaint - Store 3212 Chances are that when you were in the retail business, they paid you or your boss or someone in the store more than minimum wage, gave full-time employees health insurance, and had enough staff on hand to do a good job for their customers. I really can't begrudge an overworked part-time employee that is on food stamps and without health insurance and probably living in Section-8 housing the right to get home to his family at a decent hour on xmas eve. Your frustration is the price we all pay for saving a buck on a quart of Mobil-1 oil. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT HDTV
I use Dish which has some normal channels, and some HD channels, the local channels on the sat are standard. I have an antenna that hooks up to the sat box and pulls in the local chanels in HD. So I get standard def and HD on those. So when the change happens, will all channels on cable and sat be HD then, or not? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT HDTV If you get your TV off the air you will need a converter box to change the digital signal to something an older NTSC TV tuner will understand. Just yesterday the gummint is giving away $40 coupons to use to buy one of these boxes, which are going to be probably $60-$80, until everyone starts buying them then they will be $30 or $40 (as all electronics go). You have to use the coupon within 90 days though, and there is a finite amount of money set aside for the coupons (did I read $400M?) which came from the sale of the airwave licenses. There is some web site where you can order them. If you have Dish or a cable box (or even plain cable no box) the signal will get to your TV OK and you won't need the converter (the box does that), only for grabbing over-the-air digital signals. The newer TVs (most of them, check to see) have ATSC tuners, which are digital. If you have Dish, and use the (old) TV tuner to get your locals, then you will need one of the converter thingies. --R Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: So when the change happens next year, what sort of converter box will a person need. If a person has digital cable with a digital cable box, will their old TV still work? What if they have dish network or something, will that work as well since its digital? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT HDTV
yea, I have an antenna hooked up to the box for local HD --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT HDTV Did I get that part wrong? I thought NTSC was being replaced by ATSC (which is the digital transmission?). I might be FOS or ignorant or both on that part, but you will still need a box to convert the signals. For Kleb getting the locals through his Dish box, I don;t know, you will have to ask Dish about that. Don't know if their boxes have the digital tuner built in (can you get the local HDs through that box? If so, then it works.) Note too that there is digital picture and an HD digital picture. A lot of the stations now have a digital HD channel, and some other extra plain digital channels showing various other things (radar and weather, e.g.). --R Curt Raymond wrote: NOT TRUE! NTSC will still be there, it'll just be broadcast in digtal not analog. The converter box will just convert from digital to analog, it'll still be good old 480i. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT booting from a floppy
yea, its ntfs, that explains it. I have a xp install at home which I planned to bring today but forgot so was seeing if I could do anything in he man time without it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT booting from a floppy If the D: partition is NTFS, DOS does not understand that. You need to boot into something that understands NTFS, perhaps Knoppix? Or boot off an XP install CD and see if there's some way to repair or get into a command prompt. Allan Kaleb C. Striplin \(CAT\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, got this computer that runs xp that has been screwing up now wont boot because its missing a file. OK, no big deal I think. I will make a boot disk an copy the file in from dos and see what happens. Wrong. Computer boots up but will not let me switch to the partition I need to get to the windows directory. The computer in question appears to have some sort of restore files on the C partition, and the rest on D. The reason the file is missing is because I tried to do the compaq restore thing and it crashed and didnt work now it wont boot. So I wanted to go in and put whatever is missing and see what happens. Next step is to just wipe everything out and do a fresh install. Why cant I switch to the D partition with my boot disk? Is there something that should be on there that I am forgetting about? I have not messed around with this stuff in a while and have forgot more about dos that what most people today probably know. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT booting from a floppy
Thanks. Is there something similar that will make a boot floppy, instead of boot cd? I dont have any blank cd's at the moment. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT booting from a floppy DOS doesn't recognize NTFS partitions. Checkout http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ . BartPE helps you generate a boot CD that will give you access to the hard disk. Load DriveImageXML into the BartPE image and do a raw backup over the network, or to a different hard drive if you want to save an image of everything as it is now. -Dave Walton On Jan 3, 2008 2:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, got this computer that runs xp that has been screwing up now wont boot because its missing a file. OK, no big deal I think. I will make a boot disk an copy the file in from dos and see what happens. Wrong. Computer boots up but will not let me switch to the partition I need to get to the windows directory. The computer in question appears to have some sort of restore files on the C partition, and the rest on D. The reason the file is missing is because I tried to do the compaq restore thing and it crashed and didnt work now it wont boot. So I wanted to go in and put whatever is missing and see what happens. Next step is to just wipe everything out and do a fresh install. Why cant I switch to the D partition with my boot disk? Is there something that should be on there that I am forgetting about? I have not messed around with this stuff in a while and have forgot more about dos that what most people today probably know. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT booting from a floppy
Actually, I found a cdrw and can use that. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT booting from a floppy DOS doesn't recognize NTFS partitions. Checkout http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ . BartPE helps you generate a boot CD that will give you access to the hard disk. Load DriveImageXML into the BartPE image and do a raw backup over the network, or to a different hard drive if you want to save an image of everything as it is now. -Dave Walton On Jan 3, 2008 2:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, got this computer that runs xp that has been screwing up now wont boot because its missing a file. OK, no big deal I think. I will make a boot disk an copy the file in from dos and see what happens. Wrong. Computer boots up but will not let me switch to the partition I need to get to the windows directory. The computer in question appears to have some sort of restore files on the C partition, and the rest on D. The reason the file is missing is because I tried to do the compaq restore thing and it crashed and didnt work now it wont boot. So I wanted to go in and put whatever is missing and see what happens. Next step is to just wipe everything out and do a fresh install. Why cant I switch to the D partition with my boot disk? Is there something that should be on there that I am forgetting about? I have not messed around with this stuff in a while and have forgot more about dos that what most people today probably know. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee
I am sipping a hot cup of coffee right now that was made on a Bunn coffee maker. I added non dairy creamer and sweet and low. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee you are right. mcdonald's is to blame for trying to serve a quality product. i'm sure this will never happen again. is starbucks also prohibited from serving coffee at the right temperature or are you willing to give them a pass here? how long do you think starbucks would stay in business serving 150 degree coffee? On Jan 3, 2008 3:05 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: hold at 180 to 190 so it is drunk at 175. not hold at 160 so it is drunk nasty at 145. if you can't handle coffee served right, then don't drink coffee you don't prepare. but to say that i shouldn't be allowed to drink decent coffee because you can't handle it isn't really right. If 90% of the population can't handle drinking coffee that hot you're the exception. Just because you think coffee is best served at 175 doesn't mean the population at large agrees. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (NE) Customer Complaint - Store 3212
When is Wacko the Insane going to weigh in on this topic, or the coffee one for that matter. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (NE) Customer Complaint - Store 3212 Oh yes - and they should rename Harbor Freight to The Chinese Prison Labor Outlet Store. -Dave Walton On Jan 3, 2008 3:10 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL yeah I think they should rename it to Great Wall Mart. LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Those went the same place the Made in the USA signs went. Dan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee
I will just sue my employer, the coffee maker, the coffee pot company, and you for making me want a cup. I will also sue Rusty because he is associated with you. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee if you pour it all over yourself and get hurt, who do you blame? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee
yea, I forgot about that. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee excellent! sue the public schools as well for making you a moron. On Jan 3, 2008 3:18 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will just sue my employer, the coffee maker, the coffee pot company, and you for making me want a cup. I will also sue Rusty because he is associated with you. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee if you pour it all over yourself and get hurt, who do you blame? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee
I know this guy that feeds his kids mcdonalds everyday. He is the ultimate stupid person. his daughter who was in kindergarten weighed something like 90lbs. Geez. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee We are at the point where McDonald's needs to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator. If only to keep up with their customers. I think they invented the drive thru only because most of their customers are too fat to get out of the car and walk 100' without having a coronary. Don't ask me what I really think - I might say something politically incorrect. The only pity is that death by smoking and eating at McDonald's usually occurs AFTER people have reproduced. Darwin is being cheated. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee
oh hell, I dont care about that :) That reminds me of some stupid people I have dealt with over the years. They will bitch about the packing material their part was shipped in. They want it in bubble rap, or they order a $1 small item and bitch because it was wrapped in newspaper, they want it in little baggies. I guess I could do all that, but the price of the used part would go up quite a bit. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee Don't sue Rusty...the price I will have to pay for parts will then go up. Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee
yea but I didnt see it --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee Supersize Me. Remember that? Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 1:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee I know this guy that feeds his kids mcdonalds everyday. He is the ultimate stupid person. his daughter who was in kindergarten weighed something like 90lbs. Geez. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee We are at the point where McDonald's needs to be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator. If only to keep up with their customers. I think they invented the drive thru only because most of their customers are too fat to get out of the car and walk 100' without having a coronary. Don't ask me what I really think - I might say something politically incorrect. The only pity is that death by smoking and eating at McDonald's usually occurs AFTER people have reproduced. Darwin is being cheated. -Dave Walton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (NE) Customer Complaint - Store 3212
So you are the one who started all this --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] (NE) Customer Complaint - Store 3212 I already expressed my opinion way earlier in the thread. And it turns out that what I suggested got the desired results. At this point in the thread, it is nothing more than a typical Banned discussion, except with more polite language. :-) On Jan 3, 2008 2:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When is Wacko the Insane going to weigh in on this topic, or the coffee one for that matter. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 126 Left Front Turn Light
I will look and see. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 3:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] 126 Left Front Turn Light Kaleb - do you have one for my SDL? I'm finding the damage done by the female kids while they were driving my cars during the holidays. I think they'll be walking next year. The left front turn signal light was slid forward over an inch, and the amber lens is cracked in several places. THe exhaust system was half down on the SDL, and a drink was spilled in the center console of the 300D and left without an effort to even mop it up. I'm pissed. But enough of my problems -- How is the turn signal/corner light assembly held in? I jsut slid it back into place, hoping that it will stay there. Our son is taking the car to Houston for a semester tomorrow morning. Perhaps it'll get duct taped in place, so it'll look like a normal Okie car. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee
No, she was like 6 --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re. Stella Awards and McDonald's Coffee And she was probably 12 years old too. --R Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I know this guy that feeds his kids mcdonalds everyday. He is the ultimate stupid person. his daughter who was in kindergarten weighed something like 90lbs. Geez. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT HDTV
it does --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT HDTV Kaleb's TV is brand new, it surely has a digital tuner. If it doesn't he bought a crap tv. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT booting from a floppy
I guess I am stupid, I have tried the repair deal and I never can figure out how to use it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT booting from a floppy OK, got this computer that runs xp that has been screwing up now wont boot because its missing a file. OK, no big deal I think. I will make a boot disk an copy the file in from dos and see what happens. Wrong. Computer boots up but will not let me switch to the partition I need to get to the windows directory. My kids computer did the same thing. I ended up doing a repair install with the XP cd. Worked like a champ. However, there was a problem with windows update after that. I had to re-register some dlls. Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bad motor and its still going for this much?
yes, strange --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] bad motor and its still going for this much? Meanwhile that 350SD with the new motor sits below $4K... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260198425355 Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 Kaleb C. Striplin \(CAT\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GMC-Suburban-SLE-1995-GMC-Chevrolet-Suburban-Turbo-Diesel-6-5-4x4_W0QQitemZ270200430938QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item270200430938 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 mpg was Re: 2.5 turbo
I used to get 14 with my 81 wagon all the time. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 mpg was Re: 2.5 turbo We need to hold a contest for the individual 123 with the WORST fuel economy. The winner receives a gift cert. to Buymbparts (thanks, Rusty!!) Seriously, can anyone beat the lousy 19.5 mpg for combined (mostly city) driving in my 282K 1983 300TD wagon.? On Jan 2, 2008 4:42 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phillip wrote: I thought the OM603 was too new to have ever been in a W123. Isn't the * OM616 and OM617 the only W123 motors? Whoops, yes. You are right. I mixed up my engines. I thought someone was claiming to get 30 mpg consistently on a 123. But, yes, you are right. The 603 was not in the 123. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 mpg was Re: 2.5 turbo
yep. I just looked hard and I couldnt find it. Im sure if somebody has mail back that far its there. Would be from me, something about 300td suspension test or something like that. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 mpg was Re: 2.5 turbo With a ton and a half of newspapers in it. Do you still have that picture floating around? On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 04:36:20PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I used to get 14 with my 81 wagon all the time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo
Maybe his odometer is not correct, maybe its too fast --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo On Dec 31, 2007 7:20 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 31-32 with a 603, what is your secret? Do you drive it like an old lady? My thoughts exactly. Marshall always said that 30 mpg was at the high end of what you could get with a 603 car, and required steady 60-mph highway driving. Peter's the only person I have ever heard report getting over 30 mpg consistently. I have to think that there's something really exceptional about Peter's car, or his driving habits. Maybe he's just way out in the tail end of the bell curve? FWIW, in the two '87 300Ds I've owned, I've always seen 25-27 mpg pretty consistently with about a 50-50 mix of city and highway driving. I know the one I have now got very slightly better mileage (1-2 mpg maybe) before I adjusted the ALDA, at the expense of terrible turbo lag---it was running way too lean (is that even the right word where diesels are concerned?). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo
I dont have enough patience to drive like you do :) --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo I will freely admit to being a sedate driver -- I refuse to be in much of a hurry for anything anymore, it's too much hassle. However, here is what I usually do to keep fuel consumption down: light throttle until the 1-2 upshift, then add power. Keep the rear tires as 36 psi, rides a bit harder, but you get better milage. Rebuild the rear calipers if the brake pads don't wear -- they stick badly as they really only get used when at full load. I pull mine once in a while and make sure the pads move freely, else the rust in place and drag. They then stick and drag. Keep the front end properly aligned! Check the front wheel bearings, too, a bad one will drag quite a bit. Accelerate gently, let some other idiot burn up fuel if he wants. A 603 will wind out a bit, just give it a bit of time. I still only get 14 mpg in my 280 SE 4.5, no matter what I do Ft. Wayne actually looks better than it did -- a new Libraby, quite nice the in the new style (too much wasted space for me, but it's the new way), a nice Convention Center downtown, old Train Station fixed up and in use, lots of traffic downtown. Still no major new industry, but I think that's going to change, the fad for outsourcing everything but the CEO's salary is just about over. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OM617 cold start procedure
Yea, it seems like when I put the pedal to the floor, it starts not firing, but if I back off, it starts kicking off. I can do this and it start kicking off and if I floor it while its doing that, it goes back to not firing at all. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: [MBZ] OM617 cold start procedure This morning, the 300D was cold-soaked to to about 5 degrees (F). M1 15W-50 oil. Glowed twice, and tried to start following the procedure: throttle to the floor, and don't stop cranking until the battery dies. After about 20 - 30 seconds the starter seemed to be turning slightly faster but still no hint of firing. I released the throttle to just slightly more than idle and it immediately began to fire sporadically. A few more seconds and it was firing steadily. I've never had luck with the throttle to the floor part of the cold start process, anyone else have similar experience? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Probably a surprise to all of us that the list no longerexists.
Yea, thats quite a surprise. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 4:19 PM Subject: [MBZ] Probably a surprise to all of us that the list no longerexists. This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed permanently: * mercedes@okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam
Well all the glow plugs will be removed anyway so the other cylinders could not build compression --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Zeitgeist' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam The starter should have enough torque. The compressed air will act as springs against pistons on the way back down. Grossly bent valves will be easy to see. Slightly bent valves will not and bent is bent. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam
h --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam Pull all the glow plugs, then check compression? How's it going to get air into the cylinders to compress without open intake valves? On Dec 30, 2007 8:42 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The starter should have enough torque. The compressed air will act as springs against pistons on the way back down. Grossly bent valves will be easy to see. Slightly bent valves will not and bent is bent. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M119 idle control/cruise actuator E420
I dont see why not. They were all the same on teh 60x as far as I knew. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M119 idle control/cruise actuator E420 I don't know the answer, but my guess is that the actuators were changed to match changes in the controlling circuitry, or that the supplier just had a better idea for producing them at a lower cost and substituted the new part in. However, I think those cases are just listed as superceded parts in the EPC, not unique parts per engine number. I have a similar question about the vacuum pump on my '90 602 - the EPC (and Rusty's catalog) call for a different VP for this year, certain engine number range, and it's ~ $150 more than the pumps before and after it. Could I use the less expensive pump??? On Dec 30, 2007 8:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im sure nobody here knows, but thought i would ask anyway. On the E420, the epc says there are 2 different idle control/cruise actuators (sits over the throttle). One up to a certain engine, then one past a certain engine (without ASR, there are others with ASR). What is the difference between the 2? Could one from the earlier series of engines be used on the later series? I cant see what difference there would be. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here's one for Kleb!
geez --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] Here's one for Kleb! http://cgi.ebay.com/Time-Travel-Theory-Project_W0QQitemZ140192550055QQihZ004QQcategoryZ1310QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Just think - you could go back in time and buy a NEW 350SDL. Dan Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam
yea, I do have another engine I can use if need be, but would rather keep the euro engine intact. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 60x with broken chain and cam So, what's the plan now? I thought you had another engine waiting in the wings for that car, or is this yet another project? Regardless - just pull the head if you are going to get that engine running again. On Dec 31, 2007 8:11 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: h -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Here's one for Kleb!
perhaps. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Here's one for Kleb! If we all chip in perhaps we can purchase this as a group? On Dec 31, 2007 9:13 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: geez --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 10:10 PM Subject: [MBZ] Here's one for Kleb! http://cgi.ebay.com/Time-Travel-Theory-Project_W0QQitemZ140192550055QQihZ004QQcategoryZ1310QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Just think - you could go back in time and buy a NEW 350SDL. Dan Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
Im looking into it myself, although it is quite a bit ways away. Would help with the kid situation --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Ralph W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD Someone is obligated to check it out. Even a beaten wagon as a backup vehicle can be very handy. Quite a bit of room when the seats are folded down. This is my favorite diesel. Much nicer than the 2.5 turbo. Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 AWD wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
who knows, I emailed the guy so we will see --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD Is it really a wagon? Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 11:24 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD Im looking into it myself, although it is quite a bit ways away. Would help with the kid situation --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Ralph W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD Someone is obligated to check it out. Even a beaten wagon as a backup vehicle can be very handy. Quite a bit of room when the seats are folded down. This is my favorite diesel. Much nicer than the 2.5 turbo. Ralph Wasserbaech 2001 E320 AWD wagon 1990 300D 1987 300TD 1983 300CD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PHX CL '84 300D
maybe --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 12:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] PHX CL '84 300D http://tucson.craigslist.org/car/519143855.html Should I be excited? Bob R. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD
Because I currently do not have a vehicle that will seat the entire family --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '87 300TD How will it help with the kids situation, Kaleb? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed
Problem is, the way things are today that they probably wouldnt back you up. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how the world has changed I taught in a local (rural/suburban) high school last semester, and to say that things are adversarial when it comes to students and parents is putting it mildly. I had a kid who was from a very well known and prominent cattle ranching family. It's clear that the student in question was not going to college and most likely would live out their life on the ranch, taken care of by mom and dad until they cacked and left he and his siblings the ranch. They would come in to class on a daily basis and either be disruptive or just put their head on his desk (I'm not going to work today.) While that was probably the best thing, since having them sleep kept them from being disruptive, it set a precedent that would cause me problems with other students. I would take them out of class, call mom, and explain the situation. Mom would talk to them, they would be compliant, and the next day the cycle would repeat itself. Back in the day, if our teacher called home like this we would probably expect a major @ss-kicking. In this day in age it's clear that for most kids there are no expectations of civility or respect, nor are there consequences for such behaviors. I think that's the one thing that p#sses me off the most as a teacher. If I expect my students to comply with the rules and they don't, there is little or nothing I can do about it, and if I do, I risk getting a nasty phone call from home. So I tolerate it, unless I get an administrator that I know will back me up. MacDan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Hell I would have made a deal like that with you :) It had to have been very loud but you know how some women are, they dont pay attention. I cant believe the compressor pulley locked up. If the compressor itself locked up the klima relay would have kicked it out, unless somebody had it wired up to run all the time because something in the system was bad, then the clutch would have stayed kicked in and melted the belt. Otherwise the pulley itself would have locked up but I dont think I have ever seen that happen. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Well everyone of you hit it right on the head. I found a flashlight (Not a small deed in and of itself in this house) :) Went out and looked. It appears as though the AC Compressor locked down and actually melted the serpentine belt. I have seen belts break but never one melt (I had it replaced approximately 7 months ago) but melt it certainly did. How in the heck she could have been driving the vehicle and not heard the belt screeching is way beyond me. Now he, the husband, wants to know when I can have it repaired? Told him flat out nope not going to happen - but I can recommend a good shop for this non technical work. Sold him the car at a loss to make his wife happy and I am financing it for him, interest free - repair it as well? I don't think so! Sometimes a friendship can be pushed to far. Dave H... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. I sold a 1978 Olds Cutlass to my Sister In-law 3 months later, I got a call. She litterally screamed at me through the phone. The car was at a local garage with 2 blow head gaskets she accused me of selling her a lemon. I asked what happen and she stated that the red Hot light came on. I asked what she did next and she stated that she drove it (17 miles) to a friends house. And why? Because her friend had a phone she could use - this was pre-cell phone. As it turns out, the radiator spring a leak the coolent ran low. This was 100% her fault but if you ask her today, 20 years later, she will still tell you that I sold her a lemon. At least I didn't finance the car. You on the other hand are probably screwed, particularly when they find out the compressor replacement cost possibly the head replacement cost. They can't afford either. If they could then you would not be financing the car. Tom www.kegkits.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
Thats just it, they wont want to pay for my time, or the cost of the parts. Just dont want to get involved in it if I can help it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL No problem as long as they are willing to pay you for your time, right? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ** direct reply ** Photos on list
If somebody wants to get it up on the website as some sort of collection of articles or something, I would be up for that. Right now I am too busy to do much compiling but if somebody wants to get something going, it back be put up on the site for access by all. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ** direct reply ** Photos on list Fmiser wrote: Speaking of, I have that collection of Marshall Booth emails posts. I got it to Kaleb, but are you also interested? On a related topic, Marshall had a wealth of information, including every digest message ever sent to a few mailing lists (he was a charter member of most of the mbz lists). Has anybody been in contact with Linda to try to preserve the data he accumulated? Would Wonko or K-leb be in a position to do this? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ** direct reply ** Photos on list
Also, does anybody have any contact info for Linda or somebody? I would think she might be wanting to get rid of his MB stuff at some point. Dont want to sound like a vulture or anything. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] ** direct reply ** Photos on list Fmiser wrote: Speaking of, I have that collection of Marshall Booth emails posts. I got it to Kaleb, but are you also interested? On a related topic, Marshall had a wealth of information, including every digest message ever sent to a few mailing lists (he was a charter member of most of the mbz lists). Has anybody been in contact with Linda to try to preserve the data he accumulated? Would Wonko or K-leb be in a position to do this? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL
If I were to ever finance a vehicle for somebody, they would be paying a little extra AND the car would not leave until they had it paid off. Even then you can be on shakey ground. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Yep, IMO used car salesmen get a bad rep from everyone - no matter what they do they get blamed - no matter how hard they try to make the customer happy they still get blamed. Dude! You gotta stop making interest free loans - that costs you money - and you need paper saying if they want out or don;t make payments the ownership stays with *you* as being the sole owner. The registration can stay in your name as long as they have insurance, pay the title/registration fees and make all payments as agreeed. Then, if they stop sending you money or making payments, it will be easy to get the vehicle back - relatively speaking of course. There are ways but at some point the friendship will become strained - which is better than destroying it they way they have been treating you. They want a business warranty while having a friends loan. You in deep do-doo. ;-) In he future, if someone wants to buy a car you own, put it in an impartial parties hands and let them sell it to them. I bet your friends walks away. Take care - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Kaleb, This guy has three times the mechanical ability I have. We both produce biodiesel but my processing is like kindergarten compared to his. He produces over 4,000 gallons per week. I guess there is no way to say this without being a snob, but - did you ever get the feeling that some people just don't possess something making them worthy of owning a Mercedes? I am beginning to wonder if perhaps they would not have been happier with a dependable/beat up looking pick up? So far this year I have lost my shirt selling Mercedes vehicles. Mostly to people I knew some on EBay and no one ever seems happy with their purchases. It seems the harder I work to help someone else the more it comes back to bite me in the A! I have a 300D manual right now a beautiful Dark Brick Red color it has some challenges all minor. I sold that one on EBay for a $2,000.00 loss, allowed the guy to store it here and agreed to just take interest free payments until it was all paid for. Six months later the guy is behind - tells me he never wanted the vehicle and know wants all his money back Can't wait to get rid of the rest of the Mercedes I am gong to sell and just keep the ones I am going to, and be done with the headache/losses! I HATE the car business! Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:40 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL That is why I do not like to sell cars to people I know, unless they know how to work on their own Mercedes. I have friends or acquaintances always wanting to know if I have a Mercedes I can sell them. I always say no because when something goes wrong they will be wanting me to fix it. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL A car deal gone south can hurt a friendship in a hurry. I sold a 1978 Olds Cutlass to my Sister In-law 3 months later, I got a call. She litterally screamed at me through the phone. The car was at a local garage with 2 blow head gaskets she accused me of selling her a lemon. I asked what happen and she stated that the red Hot light came on. I asked what she did next and she stated that she drove it (17 miles) to a friends house. And why? Because her friend had a phone she could use - this was pre-cell phone. As it turns out, the radiator spring a leak the coolent ran low. This was 100% her fault but if you ask her today, 20 years later, she will still tell you that I sold her a lemon. At least I didn't finance the car. You on the other hand are probably screwed, particularly when they find out the compressor replacement cost possibly the head replacement cost. They can't afford either. If they could then you would not be financing the car. Tom
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
See I dont really need to upgrade everything. When I do upgrade I just buy the board etc and swap over my hard drive, cd drives etc One other question, Im trying to remember the windows command that brings up the options to check what programs load when it starts up. I have a computer at work that is VERY slow and want to manually select or deselect which programs load at startup. There is some command that you run that brings up a window that lists everything that loads and you can unselect what you dont want to load. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies Kaleb C. Striplin \(CAT\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been thinking about upgrading my computer or building another one. What is the best/cheapest place online to buy computer parts these days? Will probably be looking for a bare bones with just the case, board, processor memory etc. this being PC, NOT mac. The guy where I work who does that stuff seems to usually buy from newegg. Myself I would not bother just buy a Dell off the shelf and be done with it. Unless you are needing high-end components or just like to tinker you won't save enough to be worth your time. If your PC is really old and you just want to jump a few years forward check out a used PC, you can get them for next to nothing, maybe pop a new hard drive in if the current one is too small or questionable. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies
yep, thats it. Momentary brain fart --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, computer supplies Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One other question, Im trying to remember the windows command that brings up the options to check what programs load when it starts up. msconfig -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: [Banned] Thanks
--- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Regina M. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 8:17 AM Subject: [Banned] Thanks Thank you to EVERYONE on this list that helped give these children a Great Christmas. All they could talk about was how this was the best Christmas ever. I will post pictures of them with their presents a little later so you can all see my new angels-(sometimes). I really appreciate all of your kindness throughout my newest fiasco. My Brother-In-Law thinks that he make bail. He sent the kids a Christmas card (that I did not read to them). It said I am having a better vacation now. I am in a better hotel now. I am able to play cards with my friends and watch TV. It's nicer! Isn't that special? My sister is dead and he is on vacation. What a piece of work. Anyway thank you for your support, kindness, and prayers. Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas! Regina ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/banned_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode
When you start the car, turn the ignition switch back just a hair. The spring in the switch is probably not completely returning to the run position or its not making good contact when you start the car. Just do it a hair. Put it on defrost or something while doing this so you can tell for sure if it comes back on. Pretty common. Just get used to doing that or replace the ignition switch. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: [MBZ] Climate Control Failure Mode Ah, so I'm presently experiencing a complete failure with my the climate control in my '87 300TD, which sorta sucks...you know, being that it's sub-freezing and all. Right now I'm getting no heat or fan output at all. I thought the default failure mode would kick the mono-valve wide open, allowing full heat into the cabin--that's obviously not going on here. So, this started somewhat intermittently, with the fan failing to kick in until a few minutes after starting the car, even on defrost. Then I noticed a clicking behind the dash when I accelerated first thing in the morning. Now, there's nothing at all. I just swapped in a spare pushbutton unit, but the failure mode is exactly the same. I also changed the #7 fuse in the box. I don't presently have my CD manual with me, so I'm blindly flailing around in desperation. Does anyone have a clue what's going on here? Klima? OVP relay? TIA, Casey '87 300TD 230k ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Amp Replacements -
Did you check with Rusty? Im sorry, I just would not buy a stick of gum off GM. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: [MBZ] Cruise Control Amp Replacements - FYI -- Rec'd a rebuilt CC Amp Monday from Geo Murphy in Tenn - cost was $149 + a $75 core charge - comes with a 1 year warranty - write [EMAIL PROTECTED] for details - After checking a lot of companies offering the CC Amps, George's price seemed like the best price all around. I hope to install it during the next few days -- will be nice to have CC again - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You don't see many of these
I have seen the Olds Cutlass Sierra which is the same body in a diesel but not the Pontiac. Its interesting anyway. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:39 AM Subject: [MBZ] You don't see many of these Ebay item # 320197231065 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-Pontiac-6000LE-diesel-4-3L-V6_W0QQit emZ320197231065QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6386QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI tem I didn't know these ever came with a diesel engine. It's cheap! Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Conrad
Was he on Gunsmoke? Didnt know that --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Conrad William Conrad, as in, Jake and the fatman? Same guy, right? As in Gunsmoke. RLE ** See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rusty, Kaleb, retailers
cool --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:14 AM Subject: [MBZ] Rusty, Kaleb, retailers You may want to check this out. Some pretty big heavy hitters putting this together. Lookout PayPal, Visa. http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/revolution_money_to_take_on_pa.php Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Conrad
man that show has alot of cast members over the years --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Conrad Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Was he on Gunsmoke? Didnt know that Directed two episodes and narrated two episodes. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047736/fullcredits Now what was the name of the series starring Robert Conrad? Ah, yes. Wild, Wild West. http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/wild-wild-west.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild
Well then you need THE spring compressor. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 frontend rebuild (#$(@)%^#)($ $ That's the reason Dad's TD is out of alignment. On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:57:22 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Regina back
Well they are still a bit wild and out of control so to speak. Will take some work to get them to behave properly. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Regina back I am curious as to how the kids are reacting to this turn of events so far. Excited? Quiet? Glum? On Dec 13, 2007 8:56 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb, Thanks for letting us know. I was beginning to wonder about the children and your wife's status. Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Regina back Regina got back last night with the kids. We still do not have power but I was able to borrow a generator to run the basics. Came in to work for a little bit this morning, but will be off the rest of the week so I wont be able to get email unless the power comes back on. Well, that and my internet access. The gen will run the computer but my ISP is also down. Anyway, more updates later. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Regina back
If you mailed one Im sure I did. I have a pile of mail to go thru which I will probably do tonight. I will thank you in advance though!!! I will also thank you when I go thru the pile. Kaleb --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Regina back Did you get my check? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Regina back Well they are still a bit wild and out of control so to speak. Will take some work to get them to behave properly. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Regina back I am curious as to how the kids are reacting to this turn of events so far. Excited? Quiet? Glum? On Dec 13, 2007 8:56 AM, Dave H... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb, Thanks for letting us know. I was beginning to wonder about the children and your wife's status. Dave H... -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 8:52 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com; Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Regina back Regina got back last night with the kids. We still do not have power but I was able to borrow a generator to run the basics. Came in to work for a little bit this morning, but will be off the rest of the week so I wont be able to get email unless the power comes back on. Well, that and my internet access. The gen will run the computer but my ISP is also down. Anyway, more updates later. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] if this stays cheap, it would be worth messing with
yea, you got a point. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] if this stays cheap, it would be worth messing with Kaleb C. Striplin \(CAT\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SDTDiesel-82-Benz-300SD-Turbo-Diesel-Very-Nice-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ190184556076QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item190184556076 Better read his feedback. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB
Lets see JR started out with a 116, then had a 126 which sometimes appeared as a 380SEL, and sometimes I saw it as a 300SD. Bobby for most of the show had a red 107, which started out as a 450SL, then a 380SL. I THINK around the time that Pam died or whatever happened to her It was a 560, but I think it was a black one but cant remember. I do know he also has some other convertible too. Back to JR, for a little bit he had a later model 126 but then switched to a Cadillac. I have seen the Jock big ol lincoln in person when I visited the ranch a while back. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gotta love MB Perhaps it was that JR Ewing drove one on Dallas? Of course, Jock also drove a big ole Lincoln and so did Ray Crebbs wife Donna. But, you are right. I wanted a Mercedes when I saw JR had one. JR was the bad guy, but I always liked JR. Now, when Sue Ellen went from the big Ford Country Squire Wagon to a 123 Diesel Wagon, soccer moms nationwide wanted a MB wagon. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Duplicate Digests?
probably --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Stuart Saxonberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] Duplicate Digests? Am I the only person getting two of each digest? Stuart S. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Glow light - '90 300D 2.5
Does your ABS light also come on at the same time? If so, your overvoltage relay is going out, or has a loose connection. When it starts working again, it will start idling normal and the glow light will come back on. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Glow light - '90 300D 2.5 The glow light has started acting strange in the '90 300D 2.5. It doesn't light when you turn the key to the glowing position (I did verify that the plugs get electricity in this position), the car starts right up, idles faster and rougher than usual, then about 30 seconds later, while driving down the street, the glow light comes on, and stays on for 30 seconds to a minute (haven't timed it - seems forever), then eventually goes off. At the next stop, the car idles normally. I assume the glow light issue is the glow plug relay, but what about the idle - I'm guessing the electronic idle controller is wonky? Are the two electrically related somehow? The glow plugs and the relay fuse were replaced last Spring. Any guesses, or informed opinions? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
