[MBZ] 108 Problems

2005-06-24 Thread Ali Al-Abbasi
OK I am having some real funky issues with my 73 280SEL 4.5. The car has 
never run right. When I first bought the car, the timing was way out and the 
car ran bad and would pop. My Dallas mechanic addressed this and changed the 
timing chain. The car then ran well for a while but now appears to be 
running super rich. Especially if left to idle for a while. I left it 
running at idle for about 15 minutes and it started choking up and chucking 
black smoke from the tail pipe when I would pull off.Another strange problem 
is that if you do not start the car for a couple of days, the car will not 
want to start. You would have to leave it to crank for more then a minute 
before it would start. Once it has started and left running for a few mins, 
then if you shut the engine off and crank it again, it would start on the 
button.


I have replaced the fuel pressure regulator and my mechanic replaced the map 
sensor and some of the injectors earlier.


Anyone seen these issues before? Any advice is appreciated.


Regards

Al





Re: [MBZ] 108 Problems

2005-06-24 Thread John Robbins
I am by no means a gasser expert, but the problem where it doesn't start 
after it has been sitting sounds like there is a fuel leak or a check 
valve that is letting fuel flow back into the fuel tank.


No clue on the other stuff...

Best of luck
John
'79 300SD

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Ali Al-Abbasi wrote:

OK I am having some real funky issues with my 73 280SEL 4.5. The car has 
never run right. When I first bought the car, the timing was way out and the 
car ran bad and would pop. My Dallas mechanic addressed this and changed the 
timing chain. The car then ran well for a while but now appears to be running 
super rich. Especially if left to idle for a while. I left it running at idle 
for about 15 minutes and it started choking up and chucking black smoke from 
the tail pipe when I would pull off.Another strange problem is that if you do 
not start the car for a couple of days, the car will not want to start. You 
would have to leave it to crank for more then a minute before it would start. 
Once it has started and left running for a few mins, then if you shut the 
engine off and crank it again, it would start on the button.


I have replaced the fuel pressure regulator and my mechanic replaced the map 
sensor and some of the injectors earlier.


Anyone seen these issues before? Any advice is appreciated.


Regards

Al



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Re: [MBZ] 108 Problems

2005-06-24 Thread andrew strasfogel
Have you changed the thermo time switch and trigger points?

On 6/24/05, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am by no means a gasser expert, but the problem where it doesn't start
 after it has been sitting sounds like there is a fuel leak or a check
 valve that is letting fuel flow back into the fuel tank.
 
 No clue on the other stuff...
 
 Best of luck
 John
 '79 300SD
 
 On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Ali Al-Abbasi wrote:
 
  OK I am having some real funky issues with my 73 280SEL 4.5. The car has
  never run right. When I first bought the car, the timing was way out and the
  car ran bad and would pop. My Dallas mechanic addressed this and changed the
  timing chain. The car then ran well for a while but now appears to be 
  running
  super rich. Especially if left to idle for a while. I left it running at 
  idle
  for about 15 minutes and it started choking up and chucking black smoke from
  the tail pipe when I would pull off.Another strange problem is that if you 
  do
  not start the car for a couple of days, the car will not want to start. You
  would have to leave it to crank for more then a minute before it would 
  start.
  Once it has started and left running for a few mins, then if you shut the
  engine off and crank it again, it would start on the button.
 
  I have replaced the fuel pressure regulator and my mechanic replaced the map
  sensor and some of the injectors earlier.
 
  Anyone seen these issues before? Any advice is appreciated.
 
 
  Regards
 
  Al
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 108 Problems

2005-06-24 Thread hue wong
Ho andrew!@

yup, I have similar problems on mine!  While I still
don't have it toaly fixed (mine won't start after it
gets warmed up!

I did notice a HUGE imporvment when I swapped out all
the fuel lines and the vacume lines in the engine...

After working on my 300d, I curse these 4.5 sels...
Just a  bit to complicated for my tastes...

Anyway, hope this might help


--- andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Have you changed the thermo time switch and trigger
 points?
 
 On 6/24/05, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I am by no means a gasser expert, but the problem
 where it doesn't start
  after it has been sitting sounds like there is a
 fuel leak or a check
  valve that is letting fuel flow back into the fuel
 tank.
  
  No clue on the other stuff...
  
  Best of luck
  John
  '79 300SD
  
  On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Ali Al-Abbasi wrote:
  
   OK I am having some real funky issues with my 73
 280SEL 4.5. The car has
   never run right. When I first bought the car,
 the timing was way out and the
   car ran bad and would pop. My Dallas mechanic
 addressed this and changed the
   timing chain. The car then ran well for a while
 but now appears to be running
   super rich. Especially if left to idle for a
 while. I left it running at idle
   for about 15 minutes and it started choking up
 and chucking black smoke from
   the tail pipe when I would pull off.Another
 strange problem is that if you do
   not start the car for a couple of days, the car
 will not want to start. You
   would have to leave it to crank for more then a
 minute before it would start.
   Once it has started and left running for a few
 mins, then if you shut the
   engine off and crank it again, it would start on
 the button.
  
   I have replaced the fuel pressure regulator and
 my mechanic replaced the map
   sensor and some of the injectors earlier.
  
   Anyone seen these issues before? Any advice is
 appreciated.
  
  
   Regards
  
   Al
  
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] 108 Problems

2005-06-24 Thread BenzBarn
Check the coil wire. I've found that some wire sets have a carbon core in
this wire and that won't work on these cars. Fuel pressure and trigger
points fouled out come to mind as possible problems.

Make sure the vacuum line going to the manifold pressure sensor is not
leaking - this will cause very poor performance. There's a small knob on the
control unit that can be turned for idle mixture adjustment.

Dan