Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My 300TD originally had 195/70X14 but were replaced with 205/70 on the
recommendation of the installer.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 9:23 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 2021-01-19 09:10, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
> > I run 195/70R14 Michelin Defenders on all my W123s, and all my other
> > 14"
> > cars for that matter.  The original size is 175R14 on a 240D, which is
> > much
> > taller than 175/70R14.  195 70 14 is quite close and fits well.  Plus,
> > they're actually good tires.  Not so many good choices in that size
> > anymore.
>
> Do you recall the original aspect ratio or rolling diameter?
> The way I remember it, the euro sizing was taller than the typical US 78
> ratio of those times.
> I want to say 175R14 would translate to 175/83R14 or close to it.
> But all I can state with total certainty is that 165R15 found on Beetles
> and Saabs was bigger than the 175/70R15 found on Saab EMS and Turbo.
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-01-19 09:10, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:
I run 195/70R14 Michelin Defenders on all my W123s, and all my other 
14"
cars for that matter.  The original size is 175R14 on a 240D, which is 
much

taller than 175/70R14.  195 70 14 is quite close and fits well.  Plus,
they're actually good tires.  Not so many good choices in that size 
anymore.


Do you recall the original aspect ratio or rolling diameter?
The way I remember it, the euro sizing was taller than the typical US 78 
ratio of those times.

I want to say 175R14 would translate to 175/83R14 or close to it.
But all I can state with total certainty is that 165R15 found on Beetles 
and Saabs was bigger than the 175/70R15 found on Saab EMS and Turbo.


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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-19 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I run 195/70R14 Michelin Defenders on all my W123s, and all my other 14"
cars for that matter.  The original size is 175R14 on a 240D, which is much
taller than 175/70R14.  195 70 14 is quite close and fits well.  Plus,
they're actually good tires.  Not so many good choices in that size anymore.

Jaime


On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 9:06 AM Don Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I was just thinking about my upcoming trip from Okie Acres to Memphis in
> the 240D. I’m not sure about condition of tires so I imagine I will replace
> the tires later if needed. I was checking and the original size is
> 175/70/14.  Apparently that size doesn’t exist anymore and most people are
> using 185-70-14 which is pretty close to the original.
>
> Anybody have recommendations for tires in this size that you all have used
> on a 123?
>
> As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I
> bought back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it is
> raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to
> take off from a stop.  I wondered if this was just because it was a truck
> with no weight in the bed. BUT, I was just reading reviews of these tires
> (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and LOTS of people complain about wet traction.
>
> Anybody have a full size truck/SUV and really like the tires they have? Or
> have experience with others to avoid?  The truck is 2WD and weather in
> Memphis is pretty mild (except in the summer!).
>
> Donald H. Snook
> FedEx Freight
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Funny thing is, the car loves it, or appears to. She’s driven the 97 SL500 for 
nearly 70k, and despite being a reconstructed title, that car has been one of 
the most trouble free vehicles I’ve ever owned.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 10:31 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> As Mrs. Dan is a believer in binary throttle control, she loved it.
> 
> On / off. Same with brakes.
> 
> I have had to troubleshoot engine issues and found no problems until I mashed 
> my foot to the floor.
> 
> People that drive like that need to be given Hellcats or Charger SRT8's for a 
> couple days with the traction control disabled.
> 
> "I don't understand why it won't go. And there's this awful burning smell and 
> smoke when I take off. And the car slides sideways."
> 
> Rick
> 
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> 
> Wife's Mazda 6 was like that. Feather on the throttle and you were 
> zoom-zooming big time. I hated it. So did the boys.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:07 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com><mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com 
>> <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to 
>>> take off from a stop.
>> 
>> I wonder if it's due to the wretched 'modern' tendency, especially of GM 
>> (?), to have a very
>> sudden throttle onset, which I'm inclined to believe is intended to trick 
>> the buyer into thinking
>> the vehicle has a lot of power.  (To me it's just a dismaying lack of 
>> control-ability.)
>> 
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> As Mrs. Dan is a believer in binary throttle control, she loved it.

On / off. Same with brakes.

I have had to troubleshoot engine issues and found no problems until I mashed 
my foot to the floor.

People that drive like that need to be given Hellcats or Charger SRT8's for a 
couple days with the traction control disabled.

"I don't understand why it won't go. And there's this awful burning smell and 
smoke when I take off. And the car slides sideways."

Rick

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Wife's Mazda 6 was like that. Feather on the throttle and you were zoom-zooming 
big time. I hated it. So did the boys.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:07 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
>> raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take 
>> off from a stop.
>
> I wonder if it's due to the wretched 'modern' tendency, especially of GM (?), 
> to have a very
> sudden throttle onset, which I'm inclined to believe is intended to trick the 
> buyer into thinking
> the vehicle has a lot of power.  (To me it's just a dismaying lack of 
> control-ability.)
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
My W123 300D is currently wearing 195-70R14 Uniroyal Tiger Paw tires,
the W116 300SD (with what appears to be the same Bundt style wheels) has
205-70R14 General Altimax RT. I would not swear that either one is
officially the "best" size. The W116 has the tires that were on it when
I got it, and the W123 has gotten the same size it had before anytime
I've replaced tires. Both cars have atrocious traction in the snow.

Allan

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> I just looked at Tire Rack. Hankook Kinergy ST and General Altimax  
> RT43 in both 175r70-14 and 185R70.
>
> Weren't the originals something like 175R80 or R83?
>
> I did a car search at Tire Rack, for 1984 300D they told me 195/70,  
> for 1979 240D they told me 'we don't sell that'. A lot more choices in  
> 195 than in 185, including the classic Vredestein Sprint (which costs  
> more than a 17" Michelin Crossclimate for my mom's Malibu).
>
> Just ordered a couple of wheels and four TPMS for the Malibu, Farm  
> Bureau will sell me Firestone WeatherGrip for $149 installed if I  
> supply the TPMS. They seem to be pretty high ranked among the Three  
> Mountain Snowflake stuff if you care more about snow performance than  
> summer performance.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I don’t have a heavy foot.  I thought it was just because the bed was empty. 
But, after reading all the reviews of people complaining about the same thing 
in SUVs and vans, I don’t think it’s just a truck thing.  My old 92 F150 rode 
better when it was loaded. But, it didn’t spin on slightly wet roads. AND it 
had ordinary Firestone tires. 

Donald H. Snook


> On Jan 18, 2021, at 3:07 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
> 
> 
>> I was just thinking about my upcoming trip from Okie Acres to Memphis in the 
>> 240D. I’m not sure about condition of tires so I imagine I will replace the 
>> tires later if needed. I was checking and the original size is 175/70/14.  
>> Apparently that size doesn’t exist anymore and most people are using 
>> 185-70-14 which is pretty close to the original.
>> 
>> Anybody have recommendations for tires in this size that you all have used 
>> on a 123?
>> 
>> As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I bought 
>> back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it is raining 
>> (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take off 
>> from a stop.  I wondered if this was just because it was a truck with no 
>> weight in the bed. BUT, I was just reading reviews of these tires (Goodyear 
>> Fortitude HT) and LOTS of people complain about wet traction.
>> 
>> Anybody have a full size truck/SUV and really like the tires they have? Or 
>> have experience with others to avoid?  The truck is 2WD and weather in 
>> Memphis is pretty mild (except in the summer!).
>> 
>> Donald H. Snook
> 
> Do you just have a heavy foot? My F150 will spin the wheels when it is wet if 
> I step on it hard but I generally don't have an issue when I pull away from a 
> light. Don't recall what tires are on it but will look.
> 
> RB
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-01-18 16:45, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

There's a set of Michelin snow tires on my1995 E420. They work great.


If I were taking over mom's car, I might buy these, but for her I want 
something less performance and more snow.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Pirelli-P-Zero-All-Season-215-55R-17-Tires-Ultra-High-Performance-500AA-New/184422624258?

I briefly thought of sticking mom with these, they're as close to useful 
in the summer as snow tires get.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-215-55R17-Pirelli-Winter-Sotto-Zero-3-98V-XL-Tires/303778774296?

For all seasons, it looks like Michelin Crossclimate and Firestone 
WeatherGrip are the new kings of the hill. I feel sad for Continental, 
their DWS started the whole trend ten years ago and now they don't 
really have anything competitive.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=243

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There's a set of Michelin snow tires on my1995 E420. They work great.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 5:15 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I just looked at Tire Rack. Hankook Kinergy ST and General Altimax RT43 in 
> both 175r70-14 and 185R70.
> 
> Weren't the originals something like 175R80 or R83?
> 
> I did a car search at Tire Rack, for 1984 300D they told me 195/70, for 1979 
> 240D they told me 'we don't sell that'. A lot more choices in 195 than in 
> 185, including the classic Vredestein Sprint (which costs more than a 17" 
> Michelin Crossclimate for my mom's Malibu).
> 
> Just ordered a couple of wheels and four TPMS for the Malibu, Farm Bureau 
> will sell me Firestone WeatherGrip for $149 installed if I supply the TPMS. 
> They seem to be pretty high ranked among the Three Mountain Snowflake stuff 
> if you care more about snow performance than summer performance.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes




I just looked at Tire Rack. Hankook Kinergy ST and General Altimax  
RT43 in both 175r70-14 and 185R70.


Weren't the originals something like 175R80 or R83?

I did a car search at Tire Rack, for 1984 300D they told me 195/70,  
for 1979 240D they told me 'we don't sell that'. A lot more choices in  
195 than in 185, including the classic Vredestein Sprint (which costs  
more than a 17" Michelin Crossclimate for my mom's Malibu).


Just ordered a couple of wheels and four TPMS for the Malibu, Farm  
Bureau will sell me Firestone WeatherGrip for $149 installed if I  
supply the TPMS. They seem to be pretty high ranked among the Three  
Mountain Snowflake stuff if you care more about snow performance than  
summer performance.



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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes



I was just thinking about my upcoming trip from Okie Acres to Memphis in the 
240D. I’m not sure about condition of tires so I imagine I will replace the 
tires later if needed. I was checking and the original size is 175/70/14.  
Apparently that size doesn’t exist anymore and most people are using 185-70-14 
which is pretty close to the original.

Anybody have recommendations for tires in this size that you all have used on a 
123?

As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I bought 
back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it is raining (or 
even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take off from a 
stop.  I wondered if this was just because it was a truck with no weight in the 
bed. BUT, I was just reading reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and 
LOTS of people complain about wet traction.

Anybody have a full size truck/SUV and really like the tires they have? Or have 
experience with others to avoid?  The truck is 2WD and weather in Memphis is 
pretty mild (except in the summer!).

Donald H. Snook


Do you just have a heavy foot? My F150 will spin the wheels when it is 
wet if I step on it hard but I generally don't have an issue when I pull 
away from a light. Don't recall what tires are on it but will look.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Trying to back up uphill is the worst (in empty pickup).  Once (spinning
rear wheel on pine needles) I thought I would need the tractor to retrieve
the truck.  Ever since, I park pointed uphill if traction is iffy.  I bought
a used Torsen differential but haven't installed yet.

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To: Don Snook via Mercedes 
Cc: Allan Streib 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

Don Snook via Mercedes  writes:

> As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I 
> bought back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it 
> is raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when 
> trying to take off from a stop.  I wondered if this was just because 
> it was a truck with no weight in the bed. BUT, I was just reading 
> reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and LOTS of people 
> complain about wet traction.

I have had the same issue in all the trucks I've ever owned, especially
starting on an uphill. Only thing that really avoided it was weight in the
bed. The tires might make a bit of difference, but probably won't be a
cure-all.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 The traction control of modern trucks is nothing short of amazing. Combined 
with a limited slip my Dodge rarely breaks traction on pavement.
-Curt

On Monday, January 18, 2021, 10:43:02 AM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Don Snook via Mercedes  writes:

> As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I
> bought back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it
> is raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when
> trying to take off from a stop.  I wondered if this was just because
> it was a truck with no weight in the bed. BUT, I was just reading
> reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and LOTS of people
> complain about wet traction.

I have had the same issue in all the trucks I've ever owned, especially
starting on an uphill. Only thing that really avoided it was weight in
the bed. The tires might make a bit of difference, but probably won't be
a cure-all.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 For truck tires I can't say enough good about General Grabbers. I just got our 
second set, these are the A/TX, previous were AT2. Both carry the mountain 
(snow rated) symbol and are excellent offroad and on.
The A/TX are much quieter than the AT2 although they'd be loud compared to a 
car tire.
They're quite aggressive but last well, the AT2s went 45 or 50,000. Would have 
gone longer but I think I might have missed a rotation interval. We had them 
for just over 4 years. Not terribly expensive either.
-Curt

On Monday, January 18, 2021, 9:06:34 AM EST, Don Snook via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I was just thinking about my upcoming trip from Okie Acres to Memphis in the 
240D. I’m not sure about condition of tires so I imagine I will replace the 
tires later if needed. I was checking and the original size is 175/70/14.  
Apparently that size doesn’t exist anymore and most people are using 185-70-14 
which is pretty close to the original. 

Anybody have recommendations for tires in this size that you all have used on a 
123? 

As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I bought 
back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it is raining (or 
even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take off from a 
stop.  I wondered if this was just because it was a truck with no weight in the 
bed. BUT, I was just reading reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and 
LOTS of people complain about wet traction. 

Anybody have a full size truck/SUV and really like the tires they have? Or have 
experience with others to avoid?  The truck is 2WD and weather in Memphis is 
pretty mild (except in the summer!).  

Donald H. Snook
FedEx Freight 
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I think it's mostly that there's no weight (relatively speaking) over
the rear wheels. Also the way pickup trucks are geared. Good for
pulling, not so good for starting on a slippery surface.

In my Frontier I can control it by slipping the clutch (which I don't
really like to do more than necessary) or starting in 2nd gear.

In general, every truck I've ever owned handled and felt better with
about 500lbs in the bed.

Allan

Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:

>> raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take 
>> off from a stop.
>
> I wonder if it's due to the wretched 'modern' tendency, especially of GM (?), 
> to have a very
> sudden throttle onset, which I'm inclined to believe is intended to trick the 
> buyer into thinking
> the vehicle has a lot of power.  (To me it's just a dismaying lack of 
> control-ability.)
>
> -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I got some Kumhos for the 210 E300 I smashed.  Inexpensive but generally 
get good reviews.  Seemed like decent tires.  You could probably get a 
set mounted for like $300 or a bit more.  I had a $75 MIR I got from 
somewhere when I got mine, they shipped them to a tire store, I took the 
old wheels over and they swapped them.  I can't remember where I got 
them, TireRack maybe?  But El Mercado de Wal sell them too


https://www.speedytire.com/tires/kumho/solus-ta11/185-70r14-2182603?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpdCPpPil7gIVQ_7jBx1bawDNEAQYAyABEgJB4vD_BwE

--FT

On 1/18/21 9:05 AM, Don Snook via Mercedes wrote:

I was just thinking about my upcoming trip from Okie Acres to Memphis in the 
240D. I’m not sure about condition of tires so I imagine I will replace the 
tires later if needed. I was checking and the original size is 175/70/14.  
Apparently that size doesn’t exist anymore and most people are using 185-70-14 
which is pretty close to the original.

Anybody have recommendations for tires in this size that you all have used on a 
123?

As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I bought 
back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it is raining (or 
even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take off from a 
stop.  I wondered if this was just because it was a truck with no weight in the 
bed. BUT, I was just reading reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and 
LOTS of people complain about wet traction.

Anybody have a full size truck/SUV and really like the tires they have? Or have 
experience with others to avoid?  The truck is 2WD and weather in Memphis is 
pretty mild (except in the summer!).

Donald H. Snook
FedEx Freight
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Wife's Mazda 6 was like that. Feather on the throttle and you were zoom-zooming 
big time. I hated it. So did the boys. As Mrs. Dan is a believer in binary 
throttle control, she loved it.

-D

> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:07 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take 
>> off from a stop.
> 
> I wonder if it's due to the wretched 'modern' tendency, especially of GM (?), 
> to have a very
> sudden throttle onset, which I'm inclined to believe is intended to trick the 
> buyer into thinking
> the vehicle has a lot of power.  (To me it's just a dismaying lack of 
> control-ability.)
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take 
> off from a stop.

I wonder if it's due to the wretched 'modern' tendency, especially of GM (?), 
to have a very
sudden throttle onset, which I'm inclined to believe is intended to trick the 
buyer into thinking
the vehicle has a lot of power.  (To me it's just a dismaying lack of 
control-ability.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Don Snook via Mercedes  writes:

> As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I
> bought back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it
> is raining (or even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when
> trying to take off from a stop.  I wondered if this was just because
> it was a truck with no weight in the bed. BUT, I was just reading
> reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and LOTS of people
> complain about wet traction.

I have had the same issue in all the trucks I've ever owned, especially
starting on an uphill. Only thing that really avoided it was weight in
the bed. The tires might make a bit of difference, but probably won't be
a cure-all.

Allan

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[MBZ] 123 Tires and OT Truck Tire Questions

2021-01-18 Thread Don Snook via Mercedes
I was just thinking about my upcoming trip from Okie Acres to Memphis in the 
240D. I’m not sure about condition of tires so I imagine I will replace the 
tires later if needed. I was checking and the original size is 175/70/14.  
Apparently that size doesn’t exist anymore and most people are using 185-70-14 
which is pretty close to the original. 

Anybody have recommendations for tires in this size that you all have used on a 
123? 

As far as the OT Truck question, I have a 2019 Chevy Silverado that I bought 
back in May. It has 10,000 miles now. I have noticed that if it is raining (or 
even just slightly wet), the tires will spin when trying to take off from a 
stop.  I wondered if this was just because it was a truck with no weight in the 
bed. BUT, I was just reading reviews of these tires (Goodyear Fortitude HT) and 
LOTS of people complain about wet traction. 

Anybody have a full size truck/SUV and really like the tires they have? Or have 
experience with others to avoid?  The truck is 2WD and weather in Memphis is 
pretty mild (except in the summer!).  

Donald H. Snook
FedEx Freight 
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