[MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo - now with pictures

2008-11-11 Thread Curt Raymond
http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/912003975.html

This is the 190D 2.5t that Fred and I looked at a couple weeks ago, they've 
added pics now.

Those aren't blackout tail lights, somebody's lightly painted them... The paint 
looks pretty good from the pics but looks like crap in person...

Good for a laugh anyway.

-Curt



  
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Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2008-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
my 124 2.5 turbo gets that, and its much bigger and smoother probably.

Frederick W Moir wrote:
 Hi, Kaleb et al.
 190DT 87, have 2, one bent and one responding to tlc. My experience 
 is probably not too typical, I drive either half asleep or too 
 aggressively and this is aided and abetted by a car that corners as 
 if on rails. Goes fast for a 4 door and gets 31/32 mpg on diesel! 
 (besotted I am).
 FWIW
 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 
 
 At 11:05 AM 2/7/2008, you wrote:
 Anybody got one of these?  Is it fun?  What kind of mileage?  What kind
 of get up and go?  If one was to turn up reasonable, I might buy one maybe.
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Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2008-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
perhaps

Frederick W Moir wrote:
 Kaleb.
 That is true, however you probably drive in a more restrained manner 
 which must use less fuel?
 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 Public Enema #1
 
 At 01:17 PM 2/7/2008, you wrote:
 my 124 2.5 turbo gets that, and its much bigger and smoother probably.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2008-02-07 Thread Frederick W Moir
Kaleb.
That is true, however you probably drive in a more restrained manner 
which must use less fuel?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Public Enema #1

At 01:17 PM 2/7/2008, you wrote:
my 124 2.5 turbo gets that, and its much bigger and smoother probably.


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Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2008-02-07 Thread Frederick W Moir
At 01:40 PM 2/7/2008, you wrote:
On Feb 7, 2008 10:05 AM, Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My experience
  is probably not too typical, I drive either half asleep or too
  aggressively

We must have been separated at birth!  I'm afraid that describes my
driving perfectly.  Must be why I can never get better than 27 mpg out
of my W124 no matter how hard I try.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al.



  Alex.
Separated at birth would explain a lot of things. You must be the one 
I blame everything on!
Of course, you must realize that I was born upside down, my nose runs 
and my feet smell!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Disel thingamabobz. 


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Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2008-02-07 Thread Frederick W Moir
Hi, Kaleb et al.
190DT 87, have 2, one bent and one responding to tlc. My experience 
is probably not too typical, I drive either half asleep or too 
aggressively and this is aided and abetted by a car that corners as 
if on rails. Goes fast for a 4 door and gets 31/32 mpg on diesel! 
(besotted I am).
FWIW
Fred Moir
Lynn MA


At 11:05 AM 2/7/2008, you wrote:
Anybody got one of these?  Is it fun?  What kind of mileage?  What kind
of get up and go?  If one was to turn up reasonable, I might buy one maybe.
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK


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Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2008-02-07 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Feb 7, 2008 10:05 AM, Frederick W Moir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My experience
 is probably not too typical, I drive either half asleep or too
 aggressively

We must have been separated at birth!  I'm afraid that describes my
driving perfectly.  Must be why I can never get better than 27 mpg out
of my W124 no matter how hard I try.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al.

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[MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2008-02-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Anybody got one of these?  Is it fun?  What kind of mileage?  What kind 
of get up and go?  If one was to turn up reasonable, I might buy one maybe.
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  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2008-02-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
 Anybody got one of these?  Is it fun?  What kind of mileage?  What kind
 of get up and go?  If one was to turn up reasonable, I might buy one maybe.

I've never driven mine faster than walking pace, but from what I recall, they
are supposed to accelerate to 100kph like a 1987 300D, with fuel economy maybe
10% better than a 1990-93 300D. The W124/OM603 has it beat for top speed. 
It has less back seat room than a Dodge Omni, but you already knew that. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-08-18 Thread Jim Cathey
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-1987-Mercedes- 
Benz-190D-2-5-Turbo-Diesel-VERY- 
RARE_W0QQitemZ280018900556QQihZ018QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Interesting that there is _not_one_ picture of the upholstery.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-08-18 Thread Joesasser2
 
 

Nice, but at over $3k with reserve not met? Come  on!




Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-08-18 Thread Mitch Haley
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 Nice, but at over $3k with reserve not met? Come  on!

A (former?) lister (Meade) has a 100kmi 5sp non-turbo that he
wants over $6k for. I was conversing with Archer about the costs
of restoring a W201 to mechanical perfection and we came to the
conclusion that it was cheaper to buy a $6,000 car if it still ran
and looked like new. Meade's car was doctor owned and dealer
maintained from day one until he bought it.

Most of the cheap W201s are neglected and imperfect in every way,
so it's cost prohibitive to raise them up to a high standard.

I bought a wrecked turbo 190D for about $400 including fuel to drag
it home. I then got a fantastic deal on a rustfree 200kmi 2.3-16v
with perfect seats and a lot of malfunctioning accessories. I
can probably combine the two and fix the cruise, A/C etc for around
$4k total not including the considerable value of my time. If I
rebuild the engine and put the car in the condition I really want,
the price goes north of $6k in a hurry. (but it would likely be the
only 250hp turbo 190D in the USA)
Mitch.



[MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-190-Series-1987-Mercedes-Benz-190D-2-5-Turbo-Diesel-VERY-RARE_W0QQitemZ280018900556QQihZ018QQcategoryZ6328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



[MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-17 Thread OK Don
http://tinyurl.com/k54wr

Anyone have a spare tranny for this? Might be a good deal ---

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Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-17 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/k54wr
 
 Anyone have a spare tranny for this? Might be a good deal ---
 

The tranny in my 190D turbo is future surplus, I already have
a 5sp and a VNT that I intend to hook up to that motor. I'm not
hauling a car from the east coast to Michigan just to have a home
for the 2.5 turbo tranny, but if somebody wants to buy my tranny...



Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo

2006-03-17 Thread John Berryman


On Mar 16, 2006, at 9:50 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:


The tranny in my 190D turbo is future surplus, I already have
a 5sp and a VNT that I intend to hook up to that motor. I'm not
hauling a car from the east coast to Michigan just to have a home
for the 2.5 turbo tranny, but if somebody wants to buy my tranny...

_



	It's a shame that the car is so clapped out, obvious by the photos,  
it is approaching junk status. Having almost 300,000 neglected miles  
is not a good thing either. It would be a great donor for a turbo  
conversion as all the stuff is there. I'm considering grabbing it  
just for that purpose. A 2.5 turbo 5spd conversion. I would freshen- 
up the engine while it is out, for sure.
	How much do you want for that tranny? I'm sure someone here could  
have a use for it. I'd buy it for a spare but my Euro has only 65,000  
mi and my tranny is sweet and loaded with Amsoil synthetic fluid.
	 I expect it to last at least the ten years that I plan on keeping  
this car around. At least this one has had very little exposure to  
road salt. It will be tucked away for next Winter and all to follow.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



[MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo - rare?

2005-09-17 Thread Sunil Hari
How rare is a 190D 2.5 turbo? I saw one this morning with 165kmi on it, and 
didn't look too bad otherwise.

Aside from rarity, how is this car to drive and own?

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Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo - rare?

2005-09-17 Thread Peter Frederick
It will have all the 190 woes (some shared by the W124), and is both 
scarce (one year production for the US) and FAST.


They get decent milage, although nothing like the 190D manny tranny.

Peter




Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo - rare?

2005-09-17 Thread Rick Knoble
Less than 1500 imported IIRC.
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sunil Hari 
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  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:36 AM
  Subject: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo - rare?


  How rare is a 190D 2.5 turbo?  I saw one this morning with 165kmi on it, and 
didn't look too bad otherwise.

  Aside from rarity, how is this car to drive and own?

  -- 
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  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  513-205-7474 


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Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo - rare?

2005-09-17 Thread Marshall Booth
Fewer than 1400 201.128s (190D 2.5 turbo) were MANUFACTURED in '87 (the
ONLY year they were imported to the US) and only some of those
manufactured were brought to th US.

They drive almost a nicely as a 124 (actually just a little more
sportingly), are more economical, are very fast (top speed 120 mph),
and give good economy (mid 30s).

They have all the same problems that most 201s and 124s have and there
are parts (like the radiator, exhaust) that are abslutely unique to the
190D 2.5t - so only factory parts are available (because no aftermarket
company wants to make parts for a scarce car). That makes SOME repairs
expensive.

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