[MBZ] 1997 SEL 420

2014-07-18 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
Any thoughts or warnings on 1997 SEL 420?  140,000 miles, no rust I can see on 
cursory inspection. Paint is okay, interior pretty good, blue. $2700.00
Runs good. 
Is that a fair price
Thanks
Mike

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Re: [MBZ] 1997 SEL 420

2014-07-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Do you mean a 87 420sel or a 97 s420? 2 very different vehicles

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 Any thoughts or warnings on 1997 SEL 420?  140,000 miles, no rust I can see 
 on cursory inspection. Paint is okay, interior pretty good, blue. $2700.00
 Runs good. 
 Is that a fair price
 Thanks
 Mike
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1997 SEL 420

2014-07-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote:

Any thoughts or warnings on 1997 SEL 420?  140,000 miles, no rust I can see on 
cursory inspection. Paint is okay, interior pretty good, blue. $2700.00
Runs good. 
Is that a fair price

Thanks
Mike


For somebody who's used to WVO, 20mpg on premium might seem a bit expensive. Not 
to mention paying $20-30 a month for license plates.


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Re: [MBZ] 1997 SEL 420

2014-07-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Gotta be an S420 if it's a 97.  There was a 400SEL, however.

That's a bit cheap for a 97 with those kinds of miles.  I would expect issues 
or cosmetic problems at that price.

The W140 chassis is far better from 1997-on, so as far as the year is concerned 
it's a good one.

I am currently looking for a 300SEL or S320 in a W140 chassis. If anyone hears 
of a deal like this for one I would appreciate letting me know.

Dan

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 Any thoughts or warnings on 1997 SEL 420?  140,000 miles, no rust I can see 
 on cursory inspection. Paint is okay, interior pretty good, blue. $2700.00
 Runs good. 
 Is that a fair price
 Thanks
 Mike
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1997 SEL 420

2014-07-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It would be fun to compare the MSRP with the current blue book prices for
MBs from the mid to late 90s.  IIRC the MSRP on a 199x 400E was $70,000 or
thereabouts.  Depreciation is spectacular, but not in a good way for
original owners


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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Gotta be an S420 if it's a 97.  There was a 400SEL, however.

 That's a bit cheap for a 97 with those kinds of miles.  I would expect
 issues or cosmetic problems at that price.

 The W140 chassis is far better from 1997-on, so as far as the year is
 concerned it's a good one.

 I am currently looking for a 300SEL or S320 in a W140 chassis. If anyone
 hears of a deal like this for one I would appreciate letting me know.

 Dan

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  On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Any thoughts or warnings on 1997 SEL 420?  140,000 miles, no rust I can
 see on cursory inspection. Paint is okay, interior pretty good, blue.
 $2700.00
  Runs good.
  Is that a fair price
  Thanks
  Mike
 
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Re: [MBZ] 1997 SEL 420

2014-07-18 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Or for subsequent owners.
Friends had an '02 E430 4Matic.
Beautiful car - silver with a dark blue interior.
They bought it used for more than $50K and I think, only got something 
like $15K out of it when they sold it a few years later.
Not sure of exact dates but know it was not new when they got it and 
they have been out of it for a while.




On 18/07/2014 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

It would be fun to compare the MSRP with the current blue book prices for
MBs from the mid to late 90s.  IIRC the MSRP on a 199x 400E was $70,000 or
thereabouts.  Depreciation is spectacular, but not in a good way for
original owners


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Gotta be an S420 if it's a 97.  There was a 400SEL, however.

That's a bit cheap for a 97 with those kinds of miles.  I would expect
issues or cosmetic problems at that price.

The W140 chassis is far better from 1997-on, so as far as the year is
concerned it's a good one.

I am currently looking for a 300SEL or S320 in a W140 chassis. If anyone
hears of a deal like this for one I would appreciate letting me know.

Dan

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Any thoughts or warnings on 1997 SEL 420?  140,000 miles, no rust I can

see on cursory inspection. Paint is okay, interior pretty good, blue.
$2700.00

Runs good.
Is that a fair price
Thanks
Mike

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Re: [MBZ] 1997 SEL 420

2014-07-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:


It would be fun to compare the MSRP with the current blue book prices for
MBs from the mid to late 90s.  IIRC the MSRP on a 199x 400E was $70,000 or
thereabouts.  Depreciation is spectacular, but not in a good way for
original owners



I've heard that many states charge plate fees based on market value.
Michigan bases it on MSRP, and depreciates it for three years. If you fail to 
support Michigan's auto industry by buying a car at least every three years, 
well, you don't deserve to get any tax break for driving a cheaper older car.


The silliness hits drivers of old MBZ the hardest. It's over $130 a year to 
plate a $34k 2.3-16v, and over $230 a year to plate a $55k S210 4matic.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 1997 SEL 420

2014-07-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Indiana does or did the excise tax thing, too, and it was spread over something 
like 12 years.  At 12 years the excise tax dropped down to something like $25.

Here in FL it's a flat fee, thank goodness.

Dan

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 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 
 It would be fun to compare the MSRP with the current blue book prices for
 MBs from the mid to late 90s.  IIRC the MSRP on a 199x 400E was $70,000 or
 thereabouts.  Depreciation is spectacular, but not in a good way for
 original owners
 
 
 I've heard that many states charge plate fees based on market value.
 Michigan bases it on MSRP, and depreciates it for three years. If you fail to 
 support Michigan's auto industry by buying a car at least every three years, 
 well, you don't deserve to get any tax break for driving a cheaper older car.
 
 The silliness hits drivers of old MBZ the hardest. It's over $130 a year to 
 plate a $34k 2.3-16v, and over $230 a year to plate a $55k S210 4matic.
 
 Mitch.
 
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