Re: [MBZ] 91 350SD update
If you have an engine to swap in, do that, them sort this one out at your leisure, or use it for parts ... On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 6:30 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The PO said the first thing they did when it would not turn over was > replaced the starter. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 29, 2019, at 6:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Remove the starter and use a pry bar against starter ring gear teeth. > > Front pulley crank bolt does not give you enough leverage. > > > > I have an 81 300D I bought with a locked engine, Saw no reason for it.. > > finally pulled the head... all looked OK.. pulled starter, got some real > > leverage in both directions... finally got movement, in 4 cylinders > #1 > > piston did not move... hm... > > Pulled accessories off the engine, removed alternator and boom... > part > > of the block missing... rod journal made a hole... > > Further investigation found, woman owner managed to break the oil > pressure > > gage line, Drove it till it had ZERO oil... it threw a rod... They put > oil > > in it... which looked "old" and full > > Nice car, perfect in every way, 102K miles... dead engine... > > Your issues may be different... > > > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 3:19 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> I guess anything it possible. > >> > >>> On 9/29/2019 5:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > >>> What about a locked up starter, stuck in the ring gear? > >> > >> --- > >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > >> https://www.avg.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SD update
The PO said the first thing they did when it would not turn over was replaced the starter. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 29, 2019, at 6:18 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Remove the starter and use a pry bar against starter ring gear teeth. > Front pulley crank bolt does not give you enough leverage. > > I have an 81 300D I bought with a locked engine, Saw no reason for it.. > finally pulled the head... all looked OK.. pulled starter, got some real > leverage in both directions... finally got movement, in 4 cylinders #1 > piston did not move... hm... > Pulled accessories off the engine, removed alternator and boom... part > of the block missing... rod journal made a hole... > Further investigation found, woman owner managed to break the oil pressure > gage line, Drove it till it had ZERO oil... it threw a rod... They put oil > in it... which looked "old" and full > Nice car, perfect in every way, 102K miles... dead engine... > Your issues may be different... > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 3:19 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I guess anything it possible. >> >>> On 9/29/2019 5:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: >>> What about a locked up starter, stuck in the ring gear? >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SD update
Remove the starter and use a pry bar against starter ring gear teeth. Front pulley crank bolt does not give you enough leverage. I have an 81 300D I bought with a locked engine, Saw no reason for it.. finally pulled the head... all looked OK.. pulled starter, got some real leverage in both directions... finally got movement, in 4 cylinders #1 piston did not move... hm... Pulled accessories off the engine, removed alternator and boom... part of the block missing... rod journal made a hole... Further investigation found, woman owner managed to break the oil pressure gage line, Drove it till it had ZERO oil... it threw a rod... They put oil in it... which looked "old" and full Nice car, perfect in every way, 102K miles... dead engine... Your issues may be different... On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 3:19 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I guess anything it possible. > > On 9/29/2019 5:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > > What about a locked up starter, stuck in the ring gear? > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SD update
I guess anything it possible. On 9/29/2019 5:16 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: What about a locked up starter, stuck in the ring gear? --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 91 350SD update
What about a locked up starter, stuck in the ring gear? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On September 29, 2019 4:07:21 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: >As a refresher this is the $300 91 350SD I picked up that the PO said >engine was hydrolocked. Ran fine when parked at work then when they >came out it would not turn over. I put breaker bar on crank and it >would >not turn forward or reverse. Engine is very clean and has plenty of >oil >in it. Oil looks like normal diesel oil, not fresh oil that might have > >been added after it was ran dry. I pulled the valve cover and chain is > >not broken and nothing is going on up top. > >Today I removed all of the injectors. #1 was somewhat oily on the >bottom. The rest were dry. After pulling the injectors engine is >still >locked tight. I then removed the vacuum pump suspecting it exploded. >It was the original style but appears to be intact so I do not think >that was the issue. > >I do not think it was ran out of oil because it has oil in it. The PO >did mention IIRC that it was using oil and/or coolant. Maybe it flooded > >with coolant then rusted the pistons. Or, maybe the #1 rod broke and >that locked it up. In any case, it appears an engine tear down or swap > >is in its future. > > >--- >This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >https://www.avg.com > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 91 350SD update
As a refresher this is the $300 91 350SD I picked up that the PO said engine was hydrolocked. Ran fine when parked at work then when they came out it would not turn over. I put breaker bar on crank and it would not turn forward or reverse. Engine is very clean and has plenty of oil in it. Oil looks like normal diesel oil, not fresh oil that might have been added after it was ran dry. I pulled the valve cover and chain is not broken and nothing is going on up top. Today I removed all of the injectors. #1 was somewhat oily on the bottom. The rest were dry. After pulling the injectors engine is still locked tight. I then removed the vacuum pump suspecting it exploded. It was the original style but appears to be intact so I do not think that was the issue. I do not think it was ran out of oil because it has oil in it. The PO did mention IIRC that it was using oil and/or coolant. Maybe it flooded with coolant then rusted the pistons. Or, maybe the #1 rod broke and that locked it up. In any case, it appears an engine tear down or swap is in its future. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
