Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior
Sure can. S'not though, this is a good American trailer from the '70s! Only rust protection was a poor quality coat of paint. Fortunately previous owners repainted and I've kept up with it, except on this bit which is deep underneath. -Curt Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 11:03:32 -0500 From: R A Bennell b...@mts.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior Message-ID: nhbblomcoljnegblbjcpmefpogaa@mts.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Just be a bit careful if the trailer is galvanized. The fumes can make you ill. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:03 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior Yup, and the tilt mechanism on mine is pretty simple, two C channel pieces with 3 bolts. Just need to take off the middle piece of decking to get at it... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior
Just be a bit careful if the trailer is galvanized. The fumes can make you ill. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:03 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior Yup, and the tilt mechanism on mine is pretty simple, two C channel pieces with 3 bolts. Just need to take off the middle piece of decking to get at it... -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 06:54:50 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior Message-ID: 36770eb2-89cf-11df-bf03-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed mount for the tongue had broken and the whole thing was held together just by the tilt safety chain... Pretty scary. Trailers are an _excellent_ place to learn to use your new welder! The metal is heavy, things are exposed, and generally the quality of workmanship required is not high. (Cosmetically, that is.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior
Thanks guys, yes I'll check those out. Tires were new a few years ago and have very little mileage on them but lots of time sitting in the boat storage yard. I was thrilled to find that they still had pressure after so many years. I think I paid $60 each for genuine trailer tires, and only used the boat once after installing them (our daughter was born and risky family fun was on hold for a few years). -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior And the trailer tires --- On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 3:04 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Have a look at the bearings in your trailer too. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior This past weekend I finally installed my Oris trailer wiring harness in my '87 300TD, and retrieved our sailboat which has been languishing in a storage yard for about four years. During the short trip from the yard, which was about a mile long at speeds of 20 mph and less, the ride was strange. At speeds above a few miles per hour, the car bounced/jerked mildly. After the transmission shifted into second, and I went a little faster, the ride seemed to get better. At first I thought it was a suspension problem, but now I'm thinking it may be a transmission problem. There seemed to be more up/down motion than fore/aft. Could this be a bad torque converter? Sometimes when hot and stopping after a highway run, I get a judder in the last few feet before stopping. Today I decided to test the stall speed, and it would only reach about 1100 RPM or so. Does anyone know the stall speed? '87 300TD, transmission is 722.357. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 325k miles '95 E300 275k miles [shop time - rusty window frame :( ] '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior
How much pressure? I've found that my snowmobile trailer is much better behaved with 50# in the tires instead of 30#. The sidewall max is 60# I think... I've also had far fewer blowouts with the increased pressure. I'd be worth giving the whole trailer the once over. Coming home last spring from the last snowmobile ride of the year my trailer gave a strange bounce. When I got home I realized I couldn't use the tilt feature. Turns out the mount for the tongue had broken and the whole thing was held together just by the tilt safety chain... Pretty scary. -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 07:00:27 -0400 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior Message-ID: 1370e90cffd2ac4b8cb65267ba10c4b80369d...@naeachrlez02v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks guys, yes I'll check those out. Tires were new a few years ago and have very little mileage on them but lots of time sitting in the boat storage yard. I was thrilled to find that they still had pressure after so many years. I think I paid $60 each for genuine trailer tires, and only used the boat once after installing them (our daughter was born and risky family fun was on hold for a few years). -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior
mount for the tongue had broken and the whole thing was held together just by the tilt safety chain... Pretty scary. Trailers are an _excellent_ place to learn to use your new welder! The metal is heavy, things are exposed, and generally the quality of workmanship required is not high. (Cosmetically, that is.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior
Yes, I need to test each wheel and bearing. I doubt the tires had 30 lbs in them, I pumped them back up to 60, and agree 100% that proper tires and pressure make a huge difference. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 9:43 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior How much pressure? I've found that my snowmobile trailer is much better behaved with 50# in the tires instead of 30#. The sidewall max is 60# I think... I've also had far fewer blowouts with the increased pressure. I'd be worth giving the whole trailer the once over. Coming home last spring from the last snowmobile ride of the year my trailer gave a strange bounce. When I got home I realized I couldn't use the tilt feature. Turns out the mount for the tongue had broken and the whole thing was held together just by the tilt safety chain... Pretty scary. -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 07:00:27 -0400 From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior Message-ID: 1370e90cffd2ac4b8cb65267ba10c4b80369d...@naeachrlez02v.nadsusea.nads.navy.mil Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks guys, yes I'll check those out. Tires were new a few years ago and have very little mileage on them but lots of time sitting in the boat storage yard. I was thrilled to find that they still had pressure after so many years. I think I paid $60 each for genuine trailer tires, and only used the boat once after installing them (our daughter was born and risky family fun was on hold for a few years). -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior
Yup, and the tilt mechanism on mine is pretty simple, two C channel pieces with 3 bolts. Just need to take off the middle piece of decking to get at it... -Curt Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 06:54:50 -0700 From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior Message-ID: 36770eb2-89cf-11df-bf03-000502d9a...@windwireless.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed mount for the tongue had broken and the whole thing was held together just by the tilt safety chain... Pretty scary. Trailers are an _excellent_ place to learn to use your new welder! The metal is heavy, things are exposed, and generally the quality of workmanship required is not high. (Cosmetically, that is.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior
This past weekend I finally installed my Oris trailer wiring harness in my '87 300TD, and retrieved our sailboat which has been languishing in a storage yard for about four years. During the short trip from the yard, which was about a mile long at speeds of 20 mph and less, the ride was strange. At speeds above a few miles per hour, the car bounced/jerked mildly. After the transmission shifted into second, and I went a little faster, the ride seemed to get better. At first I thought it was a suspension problem, but now I'm thinking it may be a transmission problem. There seemed to be more up/down motion than fore/aft. Could this be a bad torque converter? Sometimes when hot and stopping after a highway run, I get a judder in the last few feet before stopping. Today I decided to test the stall speed, and it would only reach about 1100 RPM or so. Does anyone know the stall speed? '87 300TD, transmission is 722.357. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 325k miles '95 E300 275k miles [shop time - rusty window frame :( ] '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior
Have a look at the bearings in your trailer too. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior This past weekend I finally installed my Oris trailer wiring harness in my '87 300TD, and retrieved our sailboat which has been languishing in a storage yard for about four years. During the short trip from the yard, which was about a mile long at speeds of 20 mph and less, the ride was strange. At speeds above a few miles per hour, the car bounced/jerked mildly. After the transmission shifted into second, and I went a little faster, the ride seemed to get better. At first I thought it was a suspension problem, but now I'm thinking it may be a transmission problem. There seemed to be more up/down motion than fore/aft. Could this be a bad torque converter? Sometimes when hot and stopping after a highway run, I get a judder in the last few feet before stopping. Today I decided to test the stall speed, and it would only reach about 1100 RPM or so. Does anyone know the stall speed? '87 300TD, transmission is 722.357. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 325k miles '95 E300 275k miles [shop time - rusty window frame :( ] '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior
And the trailer tires --- On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 3:04 PM, R A Bennell b...@mts.net wrote: Have a look at the bearings in your trailer too. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Diagnose strange towing behavior This past weekend I finally installed my Oris trailer wiring harness in my '87 300TD, and retrieved our sailboat which has been languishing in a storage yard for about four years. During the short trip from the yard, which was about a mile long at speeds of 20 mph and less, the ride was strange. At speeds above a few miles per hour, the car bounced/jerked mildly. After the transmission shifted into second, and I went a little faster, the ride seemed to get better. At first I thought it was a suspension problem, but now I'm thinking it may be a transmission problem. There seemed to be more up/down motion than fore/aft. Could this be a bad torque converter? Sometimes when hot and stopping after a highway run, I get a judder in the last few feet before stopping. Today I decided to test the stall speed, and it would only reach about 1100 RPM or so. Does anyone know the stall speed? '87 300TD, transmission is 722.357. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD 325k miles '95 E300 275k miles [shop time - rusty window frame :( ] '73 Balboa 20 Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
