Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Railroad, post civil war.  The rail empire wanted a terminus and one was 
proposed in Port Townsend at the NE tip of the Olympic peninsula.  Opening of 
Puget sound, protected end of the Straits of Juan de Fuca.  Quick and super 
easy shipping port for global trade.  Great location for ships to head to 
Vancouver BC or Bellingham to also pick up timber.

Seattle was founded by a pack of settlers in 185x who wanted to exploit vast 
tracts of timber and brought women folk with them.  A schism of opposing 
logging families platted the town to their own purposes, at opposition to each 
other.  There were seven hills, just like Rome, and great dreams of unbridled 
power.  Toss in some of the excess migration from Oregon Trail, CA gold rush, 
and having Hudson Bay outpost on the Columbia thrown out and having to relocate 
above the 49th parallel.  It was pretty much a nowhere town of drunk loggers, 
hookers, some fishing interest, and had a developable protected bay.  But it 
took the trans continental railways to spark a boom.

Three options arose, Port Townsend - tip of access to the Pacific, Tacoma - 
very nice harbor and lots of lumber to export, but to the 30 miles south of 
Seattle.  Seattle - a protected bay but steep hills, except not in the lahar 
flow plain of Mt Rainier, which Tacoma is.  Insert bribes and standard 
political shenanigans.  Railroads chose the most “lucrative” option.

As for the buses sliding down icy hills…  The original builders, once the 
wooden city burnt down in 1887 or so, built a really spectacular urban 
transport light rail system.  Inter-Uban serviced a 90 mile corridor.   Cable 
cars to surmount said hills on the very rare occasions that a very cold/snow 
event would take place.  Most of the streets are actually laid out in harmony 
with topography, but for the steep inclines to actually summit and access the 
fairly flat area above.  GM buses killed that.  Cars and poor civic engineering 
put the nails in the coffin.  

Since freezing weather is very rare (mild climate and lots of large bodies of 
water surrounding) the most challenging driving environment is wet roads or 
when the sun comes out.   Change over from wet to sunny or reverse is mayhem on 
the roads.  Toss in the once or twice a decade snow shower, and there is no way 
people have a clue how to drive.  Akin to a snow event in ATL.  Except, there 
are mountain passes that need to be negotiated just 45 miles east on i-90.  
Nobody knows how to drive those either.  Turns into semi-truck pinball game 
when snowing.

Clay


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> On Jan 6, 2021, at 12:12 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-01-06 16:07, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> Given the options, I choose local climates where water does not
>> freeze, ever.  Where my wardrobe consists of tennis shorts, guayabera,
>> a hat at a rakish angle, and light footwear.  My current location has
>> made this crystal clear to my mind.
> 
> Whose idea was Seattle?
> I can remember watching videos on Youtube of cars/buses/fire equipment 
> sliding backwards down hills in Seattle, impacting whatever might happen to 
> be parked along the curb...
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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Unlike the Twin Cities - brutal winters/steamy summers and the continent's
shortest shoulder seasons (fall and spring).

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 6:09 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And although we have some cold winters, we generally have wonderful
> summers!
>
> RB
>
> On 06/01/2021 9:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >   On the other hand;No poisonous snakes, plenty of water for drinking,
> growing things, and swimming in. No seriously poisonous insects. Good
> skiing, snowmobiling, snowshoeing. Hard water fishing, although we haven't
> had enough cold yet this year to get any serious ice.
> > I've been to places that don't get snow, they're fun to visit but I
> wouldn't want to live there...
> > -Curt
> >
> >  On Wednesday, January 6, 2021, 10:45:14 AM EST, G Mann via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> >   Yes, golf shoes... you get my "drift" No ice, No snow, Warm
> weather,
> > Nice sunshine.
> > Gotta run, have to shovel the sunshine off of my driveway so I can roll
> out
> > the convertible for a drive to the coffee shop.
> > My sympathies to all who live in the shivering cold and suffer the
> insults
> > of hard winter.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 1:43 AM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Nike Golf shoes?
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our
> >> history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this
> >> general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.”
> >>
> >> B. Johnson
> >> 01/09/2020
> >>
> >>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  >
> >> wrote:
> >>> Do they make those shoe spikes in my size, for walking in deep
> sunshine?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 7:25 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  The things are magically impactful.  Some sort of thermal deployment
>  system.  The colder it gets, the harder the soles and the metal spikes
>  fully deploy.  Less cold and the traction devices retract into the
> >> softer
>  bottom.
> 
>  I did try the strap on sort, but found them hard to mount and prone to
>  rapid wear with extended dog walking.  It got interesting when the
> thing
>  unseats in mid stride with strapping rips
> 
> 
>  ---
>  clay
> 
>  I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for
> what
>  I'm looking for didn't fall out.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jan 5, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > Are the studs plastic? You really need metal studs for walking on
> ice.
>  Using the pair I referenced in my last message I scoot right along
> with
> >> my
>  normal stride.
> > Since its only early winter here I had forgotten to deploy them so I
> >> had
>  to shuffle some on today's walk with Buster. I'll be more prepared
> >> tomorrow.
> > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

And although we have some cold winters, we generally have wonderful summers!

RB

On 06/01/2021 9:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  On the other hand;No poisonous snakes, plenty of water for drinking, growing 
things, and swimming in. No seriously poisonous insects. Good skiing, 
snowmobiling, snowshoeing. Hard water fishing, although we haven't had enough 
cold yet this year to get any serious ice.
I've been to places that don't get snow, they're fun to visit but I wouldn't 
want to live there...
-Curt

 On Wednesday, January 6, 2021, 10:45:14 AM EST, G Mann via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  
  Yes, golf shoes... you get my "drift" No ice, No snow, Warm weather,

Nice sunshine.
Gotta run, have to shovel the sunshine off of my driveway so I can roll out
the convertible for a drive to the coffee shop.
My sympathies to all who live in the shivering cold and suffer the insults
of hard winter.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 1:43 AM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Nike Golf shoes?

clay

“I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our
history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this
general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.”

B. Johnson
01/09/2020


On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 

wrote:

Do they make those shoe spikes in my size, for walking in deep sunshine?


On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 7:25 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The things are magically impactful.  Some sort of thermal deployment
system.  The colder it gets, the harder the soles and the metal spikes
fully deploy.  Less cold and the traction devices retract into the

softer

bottom.

I did try the strap on sort, but found them hard to mount and prone to
rapid wear with extended dog walking.  It got interesting when the thing
unseats in mid stride with strapping rips


---
clay

I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what
I'm looking for didn't fall out.





On Jan 5, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Are the studs plastic? You really need metal studs for walking on ice.

Using the pair I referenced in my last message I scoot right along with

my

normal stride.

Since its only early winter here I had forgotten to deploy them so I

had

to shuffle some on today's walk with Buster. I'll be more prepared

tomorrow.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2021-01-06 16:07, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:

Given the options, I choose local climates where water does not
freeze, ever.  Where my wardrobe consists of tennis shorts, guayabera,
a hat at a rakish angle, and light footwear.  My current location has
made this crystal clear to my mind.


Whose idea was Seattle?
I can remember watching videos on Youtube of cars/buses/fire equipment 
sliding backwards down hills in Seattle, impacting whatever might happen 
to be parked along the curb...


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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Given the options, I choose local climates where water does not freeze, ever.  
Where my wardrobe consists of tennis shorts, guayabera, a hat at a rakish 
angle, and light footwear.  My current location has made this crystal clear to 
my mind.  



clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On Jan 6, 2021, at 6:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On the other hand;No poisonous snakes, plenty of water for drinking, growing 
> things, and swimming in. No seriously poisonous insects. Good skiing, 
> snowmobiling, snowshoeing. Hard water fishing, although we haven't had enough 
> cold yet this year to get any serious ice.
> I've been to places that don't get snow, they're fun to visit but I wouldn't 
> want to live there...
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 On the other hand;No poisonous snakes, plenty of water for drinking, growing 
things, and swimming in. No seriously poisonous insects. Good skiing, 
snowmobiling, snowshoeing. Hard water fishing, although we haven't had enough 
cold yet this year to get any serious ice.
I've been to places that don't get snow, they're fun to visit but I wouldn't 
want to live there...
-Curt

On Wednesday, January 6, 2021, 10:45:14 AM EST, G Mann via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Yes, golf shoes... you get my "drift" No ice, No snow, Warm weather,
Nice sunshine.
Gotta run, have to shovel the sunshine off of my driveway so I can roll out
the convertible for a drive to the coffee shop.
My sympathies to all who live in the shivering cold and suffer the insults
of hard winter.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 1:43 AM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nike Golf shoes?
>
> clay
>
> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our
> history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this
> general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.”
>
> B. Johnson
> 01/09/2020
>
> > On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Do they make those shoe spikes in my size, for walking in deep sunshine?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 7:25 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The things are magically impactful.  Some sort of thermal deployment
> >> system.  The colder it gets, the harder the soles and the metal spikes
> >> fully deploy.  Less cold and the traction devices retract into the
> softer
> >> bottom.
> >>
> >> I did try the strap on sort, but found them hard to mount and prone to
> >> rapid wear with extended dog walking.  It got interesting when the thing
> >> unseats in mid stride with strapping rips
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> clay
> >>
> >> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what
> >> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Are the studs plastic? You really need metal studs for walking on ice.
> >> Using the pair I referenced in my last message I scoot right along with
> my
> >> normal stride.
> >>> Since its only early winter here I had forgotten to deploy them so I
> had
> >> to shuffle some on today's walk with Buster. I'll be more prepared
> tomorrow.
> >>> -Curt
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Yes, golf shoes... you get my "drift" No ice, No snow, Warm weather,
Nice sunshine.
Gotta run, have to shovel the sunshine off of my driveway so I can roll out
the convertible for a drive to the coffee shop.
My sympathies to all who live in the shivering cold and suffer the insults
of hard winter.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 1:43 AM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nike Golf shoes?
>
> clay
>
> “I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our
> history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this
> general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.”
>
> B. Johnson
> 01/09/2020
>
> > On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Do they make those shoe spikes in my size, for walking in deep sunshine?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 7:25 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The things are magically impactful.  Some sort of thermal deployment
> >> system.  The colder it gets, the harder the soles and the metal spikes
> >> fully deploy.  Less cold and the traction devices retract into the
> softer
> >> bottom.
> >>
> >> I did try the strap on sort, but found them hard to mount and prone to
> >> rapid wear with extended dog walking.  It got interesting when the thing
> >> unseats in mid stride with strapping rips
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >> clay
> >>
> >> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what
> >> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Are the studs plastic? You really need metal studs for walking on ice.
> >> Using the pair I referenced in my last message I scoot right along with
> my
> >> normal stride.
> >>> Since its only early winter here I had forgotten to deploy them so I
> had
> >> to shuffle some on today's walk with Buster. I'll be more prepared
> tomorrow.
> >>> -Curt
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Nike Golf shoes?

clay 

“I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

B. Johnson
01/09/2020

> On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Do they make those shoe spikes in my size, for walking in deep sunshine?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 7:25 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The things are magically impactful.  Some sort of thermal deployment
>> system.  The colder it gets, the harder the soles and the metal spikes
>> fully deploy.  Less cold and the traction devices retract into the softer
>> bottom.
>> 
>> I did try the strap on sort, but found them hard to mount and prone to
>> rapid wear with extended dog walking.  It got interesting when the thing
>> unseats in mid stride with strapping rips
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> clay
>> 
>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what
>> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are the studs plastic? You really need metal studs for walking on ice.
>> Using the pair I referenced in my last message I scoot right along with my
>> normal stride.
>>> Since its only early winter here I had forgotten to deploy them so I had
>> to shuffle some on today's walk with Buster. I'll be more prepared tomorrow.
>>> -Curt
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Do they make those shoe spikes in my size, for walking in deep sunshine?


On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 7:25 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The things are magically impactful.  Some sort of thermal deployment
> system.  The colder it gets, the harder the soles and the metal spikes
> fully deploy.  Less cold and the traction devices retract into the softer
> bottom.
>
> I did try the strap on sort, but found them hard to mount and prone to
> rapid wear with extended dog walking.  It got interesting when the thing
> unseats in mid stride with strapping rips
>
>
> ---
> clay
>
> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what
> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 5, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Are the studs plastic? You really need metal studs for walking on ice.
> Using the pair I referenced in my last message I scoot right along with my
> normal stride.
> > Since its only early winter here I had forgotten to deploy them so I had
> to shuffle some on today's walk with Buster. I'll be more prepared tomorrow.
> > -Curt
>
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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

The things are magically impactful.  Some sort of thermal deployment system.  
The colder it gets, the harder the soles and the metal spikes fully deploy.  
Less cold and the traction devices retract into the softer bottom.

I did try the strap on sort, but found them hard to mount and prone to rapid 
wear with extended dog walking.  It got interesting when the thing unseats in 
mid stride with strapping rips


---
clay

I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
looking for didn't fall out.




> On Jan 5, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are the studs plastic? You really need metal studs for walking on ice. Using 
> the pair I referenced in my last message I scoot right along with my normal 
> stride.
> Since its only early winter here I had forgotten to deploy them so I had to 
> shuffle some on today's walk with Buster. I'll be more prepared tomorrow.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Are the studs plastic? You really need metal studs for walking on ice. Using 
the pair I referenced in my last message I scoot right along with my normal 
stride.
Since its only early winter here I had forgotten to deploy them so I had to 
shuffle some on today's walk with Buster. I'll be more prepared tomorrow.
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 5, 2021, 4:04:08 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On 05/01/2021 2:58 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:
> https://icebug.com/p/walkabout-m-bugrip-gtx-black 
> 
>
> Even in these I no longer have that confident stride.  It is akin to walking 
> my Dad out to the car after chemo.  Little bitty baby step/shuffle
>
> clay
>
> On Jan 5, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/s?k=ice+grips+for+shoes%2Fboots=3AFC5ZLV305QE=ice+grips%2Caps%2C187=nb_sb_ss_ts-a-p_1_9
>
> Cheaper than broken bone repairs.
>
> RB
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Ah, but that is how one walks on ice. No confident strides are allowed.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Having some experience in the matter I like this style the best for just 
walking around town: 
https://www.amazon.com/EONPOW-Traction-Crampons-Stretch-Footwear/dp/B07V2HCL4F/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3AFC5ZLV305QE=1=ice+grips+for+shoes%2Fboots=1609880910=ice+grips%2Caps%2C187=8-5
They're cheap and do a decent job on ice. Our local Ocean State Job Lot usually 
sells them for $5-$7. I keep a pair in each vehicle and in the house.

On Tuesday, January 5, 2021, 3:52:22 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=ice+grips+for+shoes%2Fboots=3AFC5ZLV305QE=ice+grips%2Caps%2C187=nb_sb_ss_ts-a-p_1_9

Cheaper than broken bone repairs.

RB

On 05/01/2021 2:41 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:
> I took a spill yesterday.  Today I learned that even if you clear and salt 
> your driveway and it is very well below freezing, ice builds up.  Who would 
> have figured condensation at -18C?  Three degree delta can make a tiny ice 
> forest grow.
>
>
>
> Clay
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 05/01/2021 2:58 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:

https://icebug.com/p/walkabout-m-bugrip-gtx-black 


Even in these I no longer have that confident stride.   It is akin to walking 
my Dad out to the car after chemo.  Little bitty baby step/shuffle

clay

On Jan 5, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=ice+grips+for+shoes%2Fboots=3AFC5ZLV305QE=ice+grips%2Caps%2C187=nb_sb_ss_ts-a-p_1_9

Cheaper than broken bone repairs.

RB
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Ah, but that is how one walks on ice. No confident strides are allowed.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

https://icebug.com/p/walkabout-m-bugrip-gtx-black 


Even in these I no longer have that confident stride.   It is akin to walking 
my Dad out to the car after chemo.  Little bitty baby step/shuffle

clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On Jan 5, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/s?k=ice+grips+for+shoes%2Fboots=3AFC5ZLV305QE=ice+grips%2Caps%2C187=nb_sb_ss_ts-a-p_1_9
> 
> Cheaper than broken bone repairs.
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=ice+grips+for+shoes%2Fboots=3AFC5ZLV305QE=ice+grips%2Caps%2C187=nb_sb_ss_ts-a-p_1_9

Cheaper than broken bone repairs.

RB

On 05/01/2021 2:41 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:

I took a spill yesterday.  Today I learned that even if you clear and salt your 
driveway and it is very well below freezing, ice builds up.  Who would have 
figured condensation at -18C?  Three degree delta can make a tiny ice forest 
grow.



Clay





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