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On 28/05/2015 7:42 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: RB wrote: Being obstinate is just not good for the country. Yes, that is true. The name we use for that down here these days is racism. mao ___ You are determined to stir up trouble, aren't you? Are you what they refer to as a troll on some other forums? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Mining tax dollars is the new growth industry ! Invest by getting a job and paying taxes.. Might want to look at the RICO laws, before starting that little enterprise, however.. Your retirement plans will likely include housing at some place that has Federal as it's first name.. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm going to become a bundler for Hilz and start a solar company to put clean green power in Cuber. I'll make billion$! Of course I will never install a single solar panel, but I will get billion$ because of my /good intentions/. I'll have some pretty heavy overhead, will have to build an office, villas for the help (and me too), buy a G5 to fly back and forth, outfit the whole deal in an appropriate fashion, will need some boats and nice G63's and helicopters to do exploring of sites, and that will all have to come first. I'll model the effort on the Clinton Fam Foundation efforts in Haiti, set up the Thomas Family Foundation, hire my kid for $350k/yr, get her a staff of 6 or so to deal with details while I set policy and such. It'll be awesome! --R On 5/29/15 1:15 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Being obstinate is just not good for the country I object. Foundation of these United States was based on bein obstinate. The progress that was made in every industry was made because of some obstinate person who refused to give in or to give up. Huge industries and huge fortunes have been made, which employed huge numbers of people now called the middle class only because the obstinate people who refused to give in or give up pressed on regardless of the obstacles. America loves the underdog who is obstinate, not the underdog who rolls over and gives up.. It is the very fabric of standing on your own two feet and making your own future. [Said principle is now trying to be bred out of our youth by liberal schools, Like all efforts at social engineering, it too will meet failure.] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Sign me up! I'll help explore islands anytime, and help you drive some of the vehicles. Adding a fud to the applications gives cred. I'm going to become a bundler for Hilz and start a solar company to put clean green power in Cuber. I'll make billion$! Of course I will never install a single solar panel, but I will get billion$ because of my /good intentions/. I'll have some pretty heavy overhead, will have to build an office, villas for the help (and me too), buy a G5 to fly back and forth, outfit the whole deal in an appropriate fashion, will need some boats and nice G63's and helicopters to do exploring of sites, and that will all have to come first. I'll model the effort on the Clinton Fam Foundation efforts in Haiti, set up the Thomas Family Foundation, hire my kid for $350k/yr, get her a staff of 6 or so to deal with details while I set policy and such. It'll be awesome! --R On 5/29/15 1:15 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Being obstinate is just not good for the country I object. Foundation of these United States was based on bein obstinate. The progress that was made in every industry was made because of some obstinate person who refused to give in or to give up. Huge industries and huge fortunes have been made, which employed huge numbers of people now called the middle class only because the obstinate people who refused to give in or give up pressed on regardless of the obstacles. America loves the underdog who is obstinate, not the underdog who rolls over and gives up.. It is the very fabric of standing on your own two feet and making your own future. [Said principle is now trying to be bred out of our youth by liberal schools, Like all efforts at social engineering, it too will meet failure.] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Being obstinate is just not good for the country I object. Foundation of these United States was based on bein obstinate. The progress that was made in every industry was made because of some obstinate person who refused to give in or to give up. Huge industries and huge fortunes have been made, which employed huge numbers of people now called the middle class only because the obstinate people who refused to give in or give up pressed on regardless of the obstacles. America loves the underdog who is obstinate, not the underdog who rolls over and gives up.. It is the very fabric of standing on your own two feet and making your own future. [Said principle is now trying to be bred out of our youth by liberal schools, Like all efforts at social engineering, it too will meet failure.] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Let's hear it for obstinate, cantankerous bas***ds! Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 10:15:10 -0700 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] For y'all trekkies From: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: g2ma...@gmail.com Being obstinate is just not good for the country I object. Foundation of these United States was based on bein obstinate. The progress that was made in every industry was made because of some obstinate person who refused to give in or to give up. Huge industries and huge fortunes have been made, which employed huge numbers of people now called the middle class only because the obstinate people who refused to give in or give up pressed on regardless of the obstacles. America loves the underdog who is obstinate, not the underdog who rolls over and gives up.. It is the very fabric of standing on your own two feet and making your own future. [Said principle is now trying to be bred out of our youth by liberal schools, Like all efforts at social engineering, it too will meet failure.] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm going to become a bundler for Hilz and start a solar company to put clean green power in Cuber. I'll make billion$! Of course I will never install a single solar panel, but I will get billion$ because of my /good intentions/. I'll have some pretty heavy overhead, will have to build an office, villas for the help (and me too), buy a G5 to fly back and forth, outfit the whole deal in an appropriate fashion, will need some boats and nice G63's and helicopters to do exploring of sites, and that will all have to come first. I'll model the effort on the Clinton Fam Foundation efforts in Haiti, set up the Thomas Family Foundation, hire my kid for $350k/yr, get her a staff of 6 or so to deal with details while I set policy and such. It'll be awesome! --R On 5/29/15 1:15 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Being obstinate is just not good for the country I object. Foundation of these United States was based on bein obstinate. The progress that was made in every industry was made because of some obstinate person who refused to give in or to give up. Huge industries and huge fortunes have been made, which employed huge numbers of people now called the middle class only because the obstinate people who refused to give in or give up pressed on regardless of the obstacles. America loves the underdog who is obstinate, not the underdog who rolls over and gives up.. It is the very fabric of standing on your own two feet and making your own future. [Said principle is now trying to be bred out of our youth by liberal schools, Like all efforts at social engineering, it too will meet failure.] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The evil white overlords are now being condemned for gentrifying the formerly redlined districts that were 75% black before white guilt showed up. Now, the african american population there is below 15%. Property values are rising, tax base is increasing with more prosperous businesses moving in, and crime is dropping significantly. The area is very multi ethnic, not white dominated, but the caucasian folk are the white devils for bringing their liberal values and money to displace the poor, disadvantage colored folk who have lived there since real racism was rampant. No more black republican values predominate. Article in the morning paper about the anti-shell kayak protesters being too young and not even native, sucking the gay mayor (yes he is homosexual) into a political morass that is now pitting the native blue collar port workers against the liberal tech elite outsiders into an economically damaging political agenda circus. FYI, the african americans do not use kayaks, but do hold jobs at the port. clay On May 28, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 28/05/2015 2:43 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: On the wet side of the mountains we are paralyzed by White Guilt. Any solution involves debasing white culture and embracing the multi-cutlural appeasement process. As long as they feel they are warriors opposed to inequity, the fools will follow the piper like rats from Hamlin. Now they are sending their children on that path. The re-education process is pretty complete. They will bow down and wait for the gooberment to come to their rescue. No longer able to act for their own self interest clay Interesting that the other groups of whatever background use the race card to advance their agendas and no one accuses them of being racist but if white folks do anything similar, they are branded racists. The ethnic groups all appear to prefer their own kind but white folks are not supposed to do that as it is racist. I guess racist = white. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Correction, America loves an underdog STORY. In the real world people will drive right past the struggling mom and pop store to go shop at Wal-Mart every dammed time. American government was at its best when our leaders knew how to compromise. Everybody got the sticky end of the stick and we came out with better laws because of it. We get in the crud when one party gets the upper hand over the other and the stupids get to play. -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] For y'all trekkies Being obstinate is just not good for the country I object. Foundation of these United States was based on bein obstinate. The progress that was made in every industry was made because of some obstinate person who refused to give in or to give up. Huge industries and huge fortunes have been made, which employed huge numbers of people now called the middle class only because the obstinate people who refused to give in or give up pressed on regardless of the obstacles. America loves the underdog who is obstinate, not the underdog who rolls over and gives up.. It is the very fabric of standing on your own two feet and making your own future. [Said principle is now trying to be bred out of our youth by liberal schools, Like all efforts at social engineering, it too will meet failure.] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Not as long as billy bob and pillary are involved. They are exempt from laws. Your retirement plans will likely include housing at some place that has Federal as it's first name.. On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm going to become a bundler for Hilz and start a solar company to put clean green power in Cuber. I'll make billion$! Of course I will never install a single solar panel, but I will get billion$ because of my /good intentions/. I'll have some pretty heavy overhead, will have to build an office, villas for the help (and me too), buy a G5 to fly back and forth, outfit the whole deal in an appropriate fashion, will need some boats and nice G63's and helicopters to do exploring of sites, and that will all have to come first. I'll model the effort on the Clinton Fam Foundation efforts in Haiti, set up the Thomas Family Foundation, hire my kid for $350k/yr, get her a staff of 6 or so to deal with details while I set policy and such. It'll be awesome! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Randy wrote: You are determined to stir up trouble, aren't you? Are you what they refer to as a troll on some other forums? Yes. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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We no longer have a 2 party system. we now have a goobermnt pahty with two faces. Correction, America loves an underdog STORY. In the real world people will drive right past the struggling mom and pop store to go shop at Wal-Mart every dammed time. American government was at its best when our leaders knew how to compromise. Everybody got the sticky end of the stick and we came out with better laws because of it. We get in the crud when one party gets the upper hand over the other and the stupids get to play. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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RB wrote: You are determined to stir up trouble, aren't you? If that is the same as introspection, then yes. Troll serves to rile emotions. I suggest. I say I am racist, even though I don't like it. Introspection might be helpful, even on an open forum such as okiebenz. We can challenge each other, just fine. Be careful because most of us wear our emotions on our cuff. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 28/05/2015 2:43 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: On the wet side of the mountains we are paralyzed by White Guilt. Any solution involves debasing white culture and embracing the multi-cutlural appeasement process. As long as they feel they are warriors opposed to inequity, the fools will follow the piper like rats from Hamlin. Now they are sending their children on that path. The re-education process is pretty complete. They will bow down and wait for the gooberment to come to their rescue. No longer able to act for their own self interest clay Interesting that the other groups of whatever background use the race card to advance their agendas and no one accuses them of being racist but if white folks do anything similar, they are branded racists. The ethnic groups all appear to prefer their own kind but white folks are not supposed to do that as it is racist. I guess racist = white. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On the wet side of the mountains we are paralyzed by White Guilt. Any solution involves debasing white culture and embracing the multi-cutlural appeasement process. As long as they feel they are warriors opposed to inequity, the fools will follow the piper like rats from Hamlin. Now they are sending their children on that path. The re-education process is pretty complete. They will bow down and wait for the gooberment to come to their rescue. No longer able to act for their own self interest clay On May 27, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Pretty sure I'm not racist. I'm also pretty sure that I would be very nervous in _any_ inner city situation, regardless of the 'decor'! IMHO population density is the problem, not color. Urban Stupid is a sub-culture. Not sure why it appears to be so attractive. I'm _glad_ Obama has been ineffective! What he wanted to do is not what I wanted done. OTOH, people seem to elect based on powers the office does not have. So to Urban Stupid we have to add the other prevalent sub-culture: Regular Stupid! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It surely appears that you folks have a problem. The parties have managed to work together in the past but seem unable or unwilling to do so now. Being obstinate is just not good for the country. They need to some up with some initiatives that they can work on together an spend less time trying to prevent the other from accomplishing anything. RB We need to quit electing incumbents, make all fed employees save for their won retirement out of their income, pay into to social insecurity, ect and like by the same rules like everyone else. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curt, I went looking for the least biased report I could find, with only objectivity and facts. Here is what I found. There are others of course, perhaps with more details about what those vacation days actually cost, and in those, Obama is clearly the big spender, If you add in the vacations Michelle has taken, then the family total spent on vacations is setting new records. However, just the facts, on number of days spent.. No, he said, she said, the Republicans this, the Democrats that. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2014/aug/23/who-took-more-vacation-george-w-bush-or-barack-oba/ Division followed by Conquest ... Time to all just be Americans, for what is best for America and it's Citizens. Respectfully, Grant... On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: But wasn't his predecessor the most often on vacation president ever? I feel like the Republicans pick on Obama for a whole bunch of things they'd have lauded in other presidents. I also feel like today if Obama said You know what, the AMA isn't working out lets scrap it. the Republicans would pull a 180 and FORCE him to keep it in place. I think the right has only one platform right now and its merely to be against whatever Obama is for. Sadly Obama doesn't seem to get that all he has to do is support Republican initiatives and the Repubs will abandon them immediately... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] For y'all trekkies I don't think that is fair. A whole lot of white people voted for him in order for him to get into the office of president. During the campaign he was a very good speaker. He convinced a lot of people that he could get the job done. Unfortunately, he appears to have been all talk and very little action. RB Whole lotta action on the golf courses and extended vacations ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Federal employees do pay from their paychecks for retirement annuity (FERS), can contribute to the 401k equivalent (TSP) which has matching up to 5%, and pay social insecurity, medicare, etc. etc. Congress critters have been able to exempt themselves from some laws (like insider trading) and still automatically pay themselves a nice fat pay raise each year, but they have the same retirement plan, same healthcare options, and pay the same taxes on their federal pay like all other federal employees. Personally I think federal employees and military members paying federal income tax is one of the stupidest things ever, sending money in a big circle which costs more money. However that waste of time and money is small change compared to most of the waste in the federal budget. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: make all fed employees save for their won retirement out of their income, pay into to social insecurity, ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Grant... wrote: Division followed by Conquest ... Time to all just be Americans, for what is best for America and it's Citizens. What type of communism is that? You must be daft. Nice - very nice!! Thanks. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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RB wrote: Being obstinate is just not good for the country. Yes, that is true. The name we use for that down here these days is racism. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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But wasn't his predecessor the most often on vacation president ever? I feel like the Republicans pick on Obama for a whole bunch of things they'd have lauded in other presidents. I also feel like today if Obama said You know what, the AMA isn't working out lets scrap it. the Republicans would pull a 180 and FORCE him to keep it in place. I think the right has only one platform right now and its merely to be against whatever Obama is for. Sadly Obama doesn't seem to get that all he has to do is support Republican initiatives and the Repubs will abandon them immediately... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] For y'all trekkies I don't think that is fair. A whole lot of white people voted for him in order for him to get into the office of president. During the campaign he was a very good speaker. He convinced a lot of people that he could get the job done. Unfortunately, he appears to have been all talk and very little action. RB Whole lotta action on the golf courses and extended vacations ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Now that was funny!! -- Sent from myMail app for Android Thursday, 28 May 2015, 00:50PM -0400 from Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com: But wasn't his predecessor the most often on vacation president ever? I feel like the Republicans pick on Obama for a whole bunch of things they'd have lauded in other presidents. I also feel like today if Obama said You know what, the AMA isn't working out lets scrap it. the Republicans would pull a 180 and FORCE him to keep it in place. I think the right has only one platform right now and its merely to be against whatever Obama is for. Sadly Obama doesn't seem to get that all he has to do is support Republican initiatives and the Repubs will abandon them immediately... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] For y'all trekkies I don't think that is fair. A whole lot of white people voted for him in order for him to get into the office of president. During the campaign he was a very good speaker. He convinced a lot of people that he could get the job done. Unfortunately, he appears to have been all talk and very little action. RB Whole lotta action on the golf courses and extended vacations ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 28/05/2015 11:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: But wasn't his predecessor the most often on vacation president ever? I feel like the Republicans pick on Obama for a whole bunch of things they'd have lauded in other presidents. I also feel like today if Obama said You know what, the AMA isn't working out lets scrap it. the Republicans would pull a 180 and FORCE him to keep it in place. I think the right has only one platform right now and its merely to be against whatever Obama is for. Sadly Obama doesn't seem to get that all he has to do is support Republican initiatives and the Repubs will abandon them immediately... -Curt It surely appears that you folks have a problem. The parties have managed to work together in the past but seem unable or unwilling to do so now. Being obstinate is just not good for the country. They need to some up with some initiatives that they can work on together an spend less time trying to prevent the other from accomplishing anything. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ah... not so grasshopper... My comment and attaboy was directed to Curlys post. MIS judgement.. how novel for you... [snark off] On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: DId I just get an Attaboy from Grant? Grant, I serously MISjudged you. :) On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:49 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Attaboy ! You summed it up, in one post. It is the essence of America and the Constitution. Present individual occupying the office of president really doesn't get it. About 295,000,000 of the 315,000,000 Citizens of America have it and won't lose it. America is strong because it's individuals are empowered. America is flooded with refugees because they want to also become empowered. It is why we don't speak German, or Japanese, or Russian in this country, and won't be speaking Chinese or Arabic. We have repelled all efforts to force the country to submit, at great cost of both blood and treasure, and will continue to because this individual empowerment is worth dying for. The powers not specifically granted to government SHALL remain with the States and the Individual Citizens.. [Article 10, US Constitution] (paraphrased). Anything granted can be taken back at will , just a reminder to all overblown government agencies, communist organizers, and community agitators. Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism. How can you twist a trekkie posting into a leftist political rant? Funny thing, communism, marxism and socialism all fail because human nature is to desire freedom and independence. Capitalism existed since the beginning of the human race and works all the time, so long as the people with the weapons (gooberments and other thieves) stay out of it. Unlearning would have to be done at gunpoint, and thus reveals the hypocrisy of leftists. They are all against guns and violence but their heros like lenin stalin, putin, mao etc have used the same weapons to kill millions and millions of innocent people. You can't have weapons or power, but I have to have both we are all for equalization of wealth, as long we we are the wealthy and the peons are equally poor you are too stupid to live your life, But, I know what is best for you ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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DId I just get an Attaboy from Grant? Grant, I serously MISjudged you. :) On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:49 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Attaboy ! You summed it up, in one post. It is the essence of America and the Constitution. Present individual occupying the office of president really doesn't get it. About 295,000,000 of the 315,000,000 Citizens of America have it and won't lose it. America is strong because it's individuals are empowered. America is flooded with refugees because they want to also become empowered. It is why we don't speak German, or Japanese, or Russian in this country, and won't be speaking Chinese or Arabic. We have repelled all efforts to force the country to submit, at great cost of both blood and treasure, and will continue to because this individual empowerment is worth dying for. The powers not specifically granted to government SHALL remain with the States and the Individual Citizens.. [Article 10, US Constitution] (paraphrased). Anything granted can be taken back at will , just a reminder to all overblown government agencies, communist organizers, and community agitators. Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism. How can you twist a trekkie posting into a leftist political rant? Funny thing, communism, marxism and socialism all fail because human nature is to desire freedom and independence. Capitalism existed since the beginning of the human race and works all the time, so long as the people with the weapons (gooberments and other thieves) stay out of it. Unlearning would have to be done at gunpoint, and thus reveals the hypocrisy of leftists. They are all against guns and violence but their heros like lenin stalin, putin, mao etc have used the same weapons to kill millions and millions of innocent people. You can't have weapons or power, but I have to have both we are all for equalization of wealth, as long we we are the wealthy and the peons are equally poor you are too stupid to live your life, But, I know what is best for you ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Andrew writes : Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism. Maybe we can send them Obama to be their new leader, when he retires in another year. That should do it. Rick Who just couldn't resist a cheap shot. Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 Yeah! the bumster would create chaos and certainly reduce the population. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Bravo! You manage to twist around any statement to make a cheap political (pointless) point On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew writes : Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism. Maybe we can send them Obama to be their new leader, when he retires in another year. That should do it. Rick Who just couldn't resist a cheap shot. Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 Yeah! the bumster would create chaos and certainly reduce the population. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: http://www.businessinsider.com/office-that-looks-like-star-trek-enterprise-2015-5 The USS Enterprise has landed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Andrew writes : Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism. Maybe we can send them Obama to be their new leader, when he retires in another year. That should do it. Rick Who just couldn't resist a cheap shot. Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism. How can you twist a trekkie posting into a leftist political rant? Funny thing, communism, marxism and socialism all fail because human nature is to desire freedom and independence. Capitalism existed since the beginning of the human race and works all the time, so long as the people with the weapons (gooberments and other thieves) stay out of it. Unlearning would have to be done at gunpoint, and thus reveals the hypocrisy of leftists. They are all against guns and violence but their heros like lenin stalin, putin, mao etc have used the same weapons to kill millions and millions of innocent people. You can't have weapons or power, but I have to have both we are all for equalization of wealth, as long we we are the wealthy and the peons are equally poor you are too stupid to live your life, But, I know what is best for you ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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He's not as bad as Harper. In any case, their gratuitous cheap shots had nothing to do with Red Chinese Star Trek capitalists. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, you must admit that your current president has been a major disappointment for most Americans. He is a good speaker and managed to convince the voters that he could bring change, but he has been a failure. I am not suggesting that the Republican alternatives were any better, but he certainly has not managed to become the star that so many hoped he would be. RB On 27/05/2015 11:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Bravo! You manage to twist around any statement to make a cheap political (pointless) point On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew writes : Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism. Maybe we can send them Obama to be their new leader, when he retires in another year. That should do it. Rick Who just couldn't resist a cheap shot. Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 Yeah! the bumster would create chaos and certainly reduce the population. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Well, you must admit that your current president has been a major disappointment for most Americans. He is a good speaker and managed to convince the voters that he could bring change, but he has been a failure. I am not suggesting that the Republican alternatives were any better, but he certainly has not managed to become the star that so many hoped he would be. RB On 27/05/2015 11:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Bravo! You manage to twist around any statement to make a cheap political (pointless) point On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andrew writes : Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism. Maybe we can send them Obama to be their new leader, when he retires in another year. That should do it. Rick Who just couldn't resist a cheap shot. Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 Yeah! the bumster would create chaos and certainly reduce the population. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Too late - I have it in writing. ;) I love this list. On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:54 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ah... not so grasshopper... My comment and attaboy was directed to Curlys post. MIS judgement.. how novel for you... [snark off] On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: DId I just get an Attaboy from Grant? Grant, I serously MISjudged you. :) On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:49 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Attaboy ! You summed it up, in one post. It is the essence of America and the Constitution. Present individual occupying the office of president really doesn't get it. About 295,000,000 of the 315,000,000 Citizens of America have it and won't lose it. America is strong because it's individuals are empowered. America is flooded with refugees because they want to also become empowered. It is why we don't speak German, or Japanese, or Russian in this country, and won't be speaking Chinese or Arabic. We have repelled all efforts to force the country to submit, at great cost of both blood and treasure, and will continue to because this individual empowerment is worth dying for. The powers not specifically granted to government SHALL remain with the States and the Individual Citizens.. [Article 10, US Constitution] (paraphrased). Anything granted can be taken back at will , just a reminder to all overblown government agencies, communist organizers, and community agitators. Wed, May 27, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Those Red Chinese need to go to reprogramming school to unlearn capitalism. How can you twist a trekkie posting into a leftist political rant? Funny thing, communism, marxism and socialism all fail because human nature is to desire freedom and independence. Capitalism existed since the beginning of the human race and works all the time, so long as the people with the weapons (gooberments and other thieves) stay out of it. Unlearning would have to be done at gunpoint, and thus reveals the hypocrisy of leftists. They are all against guns and violence but their heros like lenin stalin, putin, mao etc have used the same weapons to kill millions and millions of innocent people. You can't have weapons or power, but I have to have both we are all for equalization of wealth, as long we we are the wealthy and the peons are equally poor you are too stupid to live your life, But, I know what is best for you ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Grant wrote: Anything granted can be taken back at will , just a reminder to all overblown government agencies, communist organizers, and community agitators. Isn't that a paraphrase of a founder? i.e. Jefferson or Hamilton? The problem seems that today most citizens are willing to be duped instead of challenging the status quo which was the effort of the hippie boomers that I remember - question authority. So today we follow all the idiot marketing indoctrination - car design shape has been static for 30 years, we depend on other countries to manufacture for us so we can purchase cheap, we let gov do everything for us so all we need to do is breath. Nobody stands for anything but microsoft or apple or mercedes, etc. gay, abortion, death, guns, wimen, education, debt, war - all topics that have zero activism but more babble to indoctrinate, no movement, no national pride to continue things along the lines of Jefferson and Hamilton, etc. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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RB wrote: Well, you must admit that your current president has been a major disappointment for most Americans. The reason for that disappointment? - America is racist, pure and simple. Go ahead, lets see a raise of hands - are there any dark skin people reading okiebenz? Nope! - I suspect... mao what does skin color have to do with incompetence? Incompetence in the white house, congress, judiciary, and federal departments has nothing to do with skin color. Incompetence is incompetence. When it comes to the fed gooberment, incompetence abounds and is not limited by skin color. THere is no relationship to this list other than some have been or are goobermnt employees, but I suspect none have had anything to do with hiring incompetents or setting up incompetent systems. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 27/05/2015 4:28 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: RB wrote: Well, you must admit that your current president has been a major disappointment for most Americans. The reason for that disappointment? - America is racist, pure and simple. Go ahead, lets see a raise of hands - are there any dark skin people reading okiebenz? Nope! - I suspect... mao I don't think that is fair. A whole lot of white people voted for him in order for him to get into the office of president. During the campaign he was a very good speaker. He convinced a lot of people that he could get the job done. Unfortunately, he appears to have been all talk and very little action. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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RB wrote: Well, you must admit that your current president has been a major disappointment for most Americans. The reason for that disappointment? - America is racist, pure and simple. Go ahead, lets see a raise of hands - are there any dark skin people reading okiebenz? Nope! - I suspect... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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RB wrote: Unfortunately, he appears to have been all talk and very little action. I think we could do a bit more introspection becuz I think our racism is more than we suspect - I'm not racist. Action not happening has been a function of the racism no matter how you frame it - they had both houses and still very little happened. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curly wrote: Whole lotta action on the golf courses and extended vacations Probably no more golf outings than other persons in that position in this country? As to Randy comments regarding his inability to get people to work together for the benefit of the country - couldn't that be analyzed to be racism? Be careful not to react that you are not racist and that most are not racist. Racist Anonymous needs to be established. I suggest there is more racism than we want to admit. i.e. inner city=code for black neighborhood, etc - we hide inflammatory words to hide racism. Many other words to add to a list of code words masking racism. What do you think? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Pretty sure I'm not racist. I'm also pretty sure that I would be very nervous in _any_ inner city situation, regardless of the 'decor'! IMHO population density is the problem, not color. Urban Stupid is a sub-culture. Not sure why it appears to be so attractive. I'm _glad_ Obama has been ineffective! What he wanted to do is not what I wanted done. OTOH, people seem to elect based on powers the office does not have. So to Urban Stupid we have to add the other prevalent sub-culture: Regular Stupid! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 27/05/2015 4:42 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: RB wrote: Unfortunately, he appears to have been all talk and very little action. I think we could do a bit more introspection becuz I think our racism is more than we suspect - I'm not racist. Action not happening has been a function of the racism no matter how you frame it - they had both houses and still very little happened. mao ___ I did not say that it was all the fault of the president. I just said he had been a disappointment. I expect it is probably more difficult for him given his being the first black president, but he asked for the job and he must have known it would not be an easy task. He has not been able to get people to work together for the benefit of the country. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I don't think that is fair. A whole lot of white people voted for him in order for him to get into the office of president. During the campaign he was a very good speaker. He convinced a lot of people that he could get the job done. Unfortunately, he appears to have been all talk and very little action. RB Whole lotta action on the golf courses and extended vacations ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Curly wrote: what does skin color have to do with incompetence? Yes. The incompetence seems to be a function of race, essentially. Examine it. We could dialog about the issue, but I doubt we can. Race is more explosive among citizens than politics so I suspect Dan to shove this thread to halt. I suspect I have much more racism than I would allow and I am open to admit that as a theory. Even if we can admit reality of the theory, I have zero hope that a fix is possible. I suspect humanity is racist, including skin color, ethnicity, national identity. Oh, well... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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http://www.businessinsider.com/office-that-looks-like-star-trek-enterprise-2015-5 The USS Enterprise has landed. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
