Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth
I nominate this for the quotes page, Kaleb: -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Hendrik & Fay wrote: >In Australia it is necessary to shorten words as much as >possible, due to the numerous flies. Plus it's hard to talk and drink >beer at the same time, made even worse if you smoke. > >Hendrik >who hasn't swallowed that many flies > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth
On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:43 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > talk, smoke, drink beer and work at the same time. H Oz must be a > special place if the natives can do all that. I used to be able to do all that when I was twenty something. Cigs and beer are long gone. I must admit I do miss the beer. Clausthaler is as close as it gets now. Not bad for an NA beer. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth
talk, smoke, drink beer and work at the same time. H Oz must be a special place if the natives can do all that. Seems like back in the vaterland, around 1970 or so, the DB emplyees could manage to work and dring beer at the same time. Not sure any of them could manage all 4. Oz is a special place isn't it. someone here could probably manage 3 work, drink beer, and smoke at the same time by putting the stinkarette in their nose. Yes you are. In Australia it is necessary to shorten words as much as possible, due to the numerous flies. Plus it's hard to talk and drink beer at the same time, made even worse if you smoke. Hendrik who hasn't swallowed that many flies Hendrik wrote: That's what shifters are for. Best I can tell, in the USA it's typically called a Cresent (TM) wrench [spanner]. Or to avoid the trademarked name it is called an "adjustable wrench" [spanner]. Am I right? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth
Yes you are. In Australia it is necessary to shorten words as much as possible, due to the numerous flies. Plus it's hard to talk and drink beer at the same time, made even worse if you smoke. Hendrik who hasn't swallowed that many flies On 18/08/12 14:30, Fmiser wrote: On 18/08/12 12:44, Fmiser wrote: Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners. Hendrik wrote: That's what shifters are for. I had to look that one up. It's a new term for me. Best I can tell, in the USA it's typically called a Cresent (TM) wrench [spanner]. Or to avoid the trademarked name it is called an "adjustable wrench" [spanner]. http://www.canstockphoto.com/cresent-wrench-0220816.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjustable_spanner Am I right? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing
> Odd as it may seem, automobiles have been using metric since the > mid 1980's. For a few years there it was a bit annoying though > as some fasteners were metric and some SAE (fractional inch). > So the bolts holding the alternator bracket to the block are > SAE, but the bolt through the bracket into the alternator is > metric. On my W116 the bolts holding the ACC servo to its bracket were SAE. I attributed this to its Chrysler origins. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing
Bought a pair of rebuilt front calipers from Rusty. Started to bleed them and none of my metric wrenches would fit the bleeder valve. Turned out it was SAE (NF) or NC. The rebuilder had apparently drilled out the old threads and rethreaded to fit the "American" bleeder valves. No problems, though; the calipers work well. Gerry From: "OK Don" My ML seems to be all metric, but I've not checked on some of the USA sourced parts, like the transfer case. The Plymouth van has both metirc and SAE fasteners - can be frustrating, having to bring an assortment of both out to the car. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Fmiser wrote: > Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Which makes me wonder, if a Merc is assembled in the US of A > is it made out of imperial nuts and bolts or metric? Odd as it may seem, automobiles have been using metric since the mid 1980's. For a few years there it was a bit annoying though as some fasteners were metric and some SAE (fractional inch). So the bolts holding the alternator bracket to the block are SAE, but the bolt through the bracket into the alternator is metric. Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2180 / Virus Database: 2437/5207 - Release Date: 08/18/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing
My ML seems to be all metric, but I've not checked on some of the USA sourced parts, like the transfer case. The Plymouth van has both metirc and SAE fasteners - can be frustrating, having to bring an assortment of both out to the car. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Fmiser wrote: > > Hendrik & Fay wrote: > > > Which makes me wonder, if a Merc is assembled in the US of A > > is it made out of imperial nuts and bolts or metric? > > Odd as it may seem, automobiles have been using metric since the > mid 1980's. For a few years there it was a bit annoying though > as some fasteners were metric and some SAE (fractional inch). > So the bolts holding the alternator bracket to the block are > SAE, but the bolt through the bracket into the alternator is > metric. > > Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners. > > -- Philip > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don 2001 ML320 2012 Passat TDI DSG 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth
> > On 18/08/12 12:44, Fmiser wrote: > > Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners. Hendrik wrote: That's what shifters are for. I had to look that one up. It's a new term for me. Best I can tell, in the USA it's typically called a Cresent (TM) wrench [spanner]. Or to avoid the trademarked name it is called an "adjustable wrench" [spanner]. AKA Mexican socket set Am I right? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth
Hendrik wrote: > That's what shifters are for. Better watch outThat Hendrik is a shifty character ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth
> > On 18/08/12 12:44, Fmiser wrote: > > > > Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners. > Hendrik wrote: > That's what shifters are for. I had to look that one up. It's a new term for me. Best I can tell, in the USA it's typically called a Cresent (TM) wrench [spanner]. Or to avoid the trademarked name it is called an "adjustable wrench" [spanner]. http://www.canstockphoto.com/cresent-wrench-0220816.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjustable_spanner Am I right? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing with a 9/16 spanner
Anything that ain't metric is imperial. Although usually called AF around these parts, usually with a nasty word in front of it. Hendrik who has both metric and AF tools and might even have a Whitworth spanner or two rusting away somewhere On 18/08/12 13:03, Dieselhead wrote: oooh YUK I have not had contact with imperial or any of the other weird british size wrenched since I dumped my almost new turnip 41 years ago in favor of the BMW R50/2. USA uses/used SAE sizes. We threw out Imperial with da king georg. "Bama stuff is all ISO metric. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing
I have an universal adjustable wrench that rounds-off all sorts of nuts and bolts, BA/Whitworth/Metric/SAE/Unified no problem . Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. > > From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:33 PM >Subject: Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing > >oooh YUK I have not had contact with imperial or any of the other >weird british size wrenched since I dumped my almost new turnip 41 >years ago in favor of the BMW R50/2. > >USA uses/used SAE sizes. We threw out Imperial with da king georg. > >"Bama stuff is all ISO metric. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing
On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:47 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > any of the other weird british size wrench That would be "Whitworth". Yeah, I've owned British iron before. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing
oooh YUK I have not had contact with imperial or any of the other weird british size wrenched since I dumped my almost new turnip 41 years ago in favor of the BMW R50/2. USA uses/used SAE sizes. We threw out Imperial with da king georg. "Bama stuff is all ISO metric. Why is that? End of the day the principles are the same it's just the tools and the cost of parts is different. Which makes me wonder, if a Merc is assembled in the US of A is it made out of imperial nuts and bolts or metric? Probably need something like this to properly work on them http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BGS-Germany-171-pieces-Ratchet-Wrench-Tool-Socket-Set-/120660290661?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c17e9ec65 Hendrik who has one of those tool kits On 18/08/12 06:31, relng...@aol.com wrote: I presume the vehicle has some sort of warranty? These are not very amenable to DIY. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth
That's what shifters are for. Hendrik who has a few shifters On 18/08/12 12:44, Fmiser wrote: Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing
> Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Which makes me wonder, if a Merc is assembled in the US of A > is it made out of imperial nuts and bolts or metric? Odd as it may seem, automobiles have been using metric since the mid 1980's. For a few years there it was a bit annoying though as some fasteners were metric and some SAE (fractional inch). So the bolts holding the alternator bracket to the block are SAE, but the bolt through the bracket into the alternator is metric. Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing
Why is that? End of the day the principles are the same it's just the tools and the cost of parts is different. Which makes me wonder, if a Merc is assembled in the US of A is it made out of imperial nuts and bolts or metric? Probably need something like this to properly work on them http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BGS-Germany-171-pieces-Ratchet-Wrench-Tool-Socket-Set-/120660290661?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c17e9ec65 Hendrik who has one of those tool kits On 18/08/12 06:31, relng...@aol.com wrote: I presume the vehicle has some sort of warranty? These are not very amenable to DIY. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com