Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth

2012-08-19 Thread Max Dillon
I nominate this for the quotes page, Kaleb:
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Hendrik & Fay  wrote:

>In Australia it is necessary to shorten words as much as 
>possible, due to the numerous flies. Plus it's hard to talk and drink 
>beer at the same time, made even worse if you smoke.
>
>Hendrik
>who hasn't swallowed that many flies
>

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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth

2012-08-18 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:43 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> talk, smoke, drink beer and work at the same time.  H   Oz must be a 
> special place if the natives can do all that.


I used to be able to do all that when I was twenty something. Cigs and beer are 
long gone. I must admit I do miss the beer. Clausthaler is as close as it gets 
now. Not bad for an NA beer. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth

2012-08-18 Thread Dieselhead
talk, smoke, drink beer and work at the same time.  H   Oz must 
be a special place if the natives can do all that.


Seems like back in the vaterland, around 1970 or so, the DB emplyees 
could manage to work and dring beer at the same time.  Not sure any 
of them could manage all 4.   Oz is a special place isn't it.


someone here could probably manage 3 work, drink beer, and smoke 
at the same time by putting the stinkarette in their nose.



Yes you are. In Australia it is necessary to shorten words as much 
as possible, due to the numerous flies. Plus it's hard to talk and 
drink beer at the same time, made even worse if you smoke.


Hendrik
who hasn't swallowed that many flies




Hendrik wrote:
That's what shifters are for.



Best I can tell, in the USA it's typically called a Cresent (TM)
wrench [spanner].  Or to avoid the trademarked name it is called
an "adjustable wrench" [spanner].

Am I right?

--   Philip



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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth

2012-08-18 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Yes you are. In Australia it is necessary to shorten words as much as 
possible, due to the numerous flies. Plus it's hard to talk and drink 
beer at the same time, made even worse if you smoke.


Hendrik
who hasn't swallowed that many flies

On 18/08/12 14:30, Fmiser wrote:

On 18/08/12 12:44, Fmiser wrote:

Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners.

Hendrik wrote:
That's what shifters are for.

I had to look that one up.  It's a new term for me.

Best I can tell, in the USA it's typically called a Cresent (TM)
wrench [spanner].  Or to avoid the trademarked name it is called
an "adjustable wrench" [spanner].

http://www.canstockphoto.com/cresent-wrench-0220816.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjustable_spanner

Am I right?

--   Philip







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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing

2012-08-18 Thread Allan Streib

> Odd as it may seem, automobiles have been using metric since the
> mid 1980's.  For a few years there it was a bit annoying though
> as some fasteners were metric and some SAE (fractional inch).
> So the bolts holding the alternator bracket to the block are
> SAE, but the bolt through the bracket into the alternator is
> metric.

On my W116 the bolts holding the ACC servo to its bracket were SAE.  I
attributed this to its Chrysler origins.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing

2012-08-18 Thread Gerry Archer
Bought a pair of rebuilt front calipers from Rusty.  Started to bleed them 
and none of my metric wrenches would fit the bleeder valve.  Turned out it 
was SAE (NF) or NC.  The rebuilder had apparently drilled out the old 
threads and rethreaded to fit the "American" bleeder valves.  No problems, 
though; the calipers work well.

Gerry

From: "OK Don" 

My ML seems to be all metric, but I've not checked on some of the USA
sourced parts, like the transfer case. The Plymouth van has both metirc 
and

SAE fasteners - can be frustrating, having to bring an assortment of both
out to the car.

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Fmiser  wrote:


> Hendrik & Fay wrote:

> Which makes me wonder, if a Merc is assembled in the US of A
> is it made out of imperial nuts and bolts or metric?

Odd as it may seem, automobiles have been using metric since the
mid 1980's.  For a few years there it was a bit annoying though
as some fasteners were metric and some SAE (fractional inch).
So the bolts holding the alternator bracket to the block are
SAE, but the bolt through the bracket into the alternator is
metric.

Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing

2012-08-18 Thread OK Don
My ML seems to be all metric, but I've not checked on some of the USA
sourced parts, like the transfer case. The Plymouth van has both metirc and
SAE fasteners - can be frustrating, having to bring an assortment of both
out to the car.

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Fmiser  wrote:

> > Hendrik & Fay wrote:
>
> > Which makes me wonder, if a Merc is assembled in the US of A
> > is it made out of imperial nuts and bolts or metric?
>
> Odd as it may seem, automobiles have been using metric since the
> mid 1980's.  For a few years there it was a bit annoying though
> as some fasteners were metric and some SAE (fractional inch).
> So the bolts holding the alternator bracket to the block are
> SAE, but the bolt through the bracket into the alternator is
> metric.
>
> Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners.
>
> --   Philip
>
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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth

2012-08-18 Thread Dieselhead

 > > On 18/08/12 12:44, Fmiser wrote:

 >
 > Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners.



 Hendrik wrote:



 That's what shifters are for.


I had to look that one up.  It's a new term for me.

Best I can tell, in the USA it's typically called a Cresent (TM)
wrench [spanner].  Or to avoid the trademarked name it is called
an "adjustable wrench" [spanner].   AKA Mexican socket set


Am I right?

--   Philip


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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth

2012-08-18 Thread Dieselhead






 Hendrik wrote:


 > That's what shifters are for.


Better watch outThat Hendrik is a shifty character

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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth

2012-08-17 Thread Fmiser
> > On 18/08/12 12:44, Fmiser wrote:
> >
> > Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners.

> Hendrik wrote:

> That's what shifters are for.

I had to look that one up.  It's a new term for me.

Best I can tell, in the USA it's typically called a Cresent (TM)
wrench [spanner].  Or to avoid the trademarked name it is called
an "adjustable wrench" [spanner].

http://www.canstockphoto.com/cresent-wrench-0220816.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjustable_spanner

Am I right?

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing with a 9/16 spanner

2012-08-17 Thread Hendrik & Fay

Anything that ain't metric is imperial.
Although usually called AF around these parts, usually with a nasty word 
in front of it.


Hendrik
who has both metric and AF tools and might even have a Whitworth spanner 
or two rusting away somewhere


On 18/08/12 13:03, Dieselhead wrote:
oooh  YUK  I have not had contact with imperial or any of the other 
weird british size wrenched since I dumped my almost new turnip 41 
years ago in favor of the BMW R50/2.


USA uses/used SAE sizes.  We threw out Imperial with da king georg.

"Bama stuff is all ISO metric.




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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing

2012-08-17 Thread Frederick Moir
I have an universal adjustable wrench that rounds-off all sorts of nuts and 
bolts, BA/Whitworth/Metric/SAE/Unified no problem .
 
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.


>
> From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
>To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 11:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing
> 
>oooh  YUK  I have not had contact with imperial or any of the other 
>weird british size wrenched since I dumped my almost new turnip 41 
>years ago in favor of the BMW R50/2.
>
>USA uses/used SAE sizes.  We threw out Imperial with da king georg.
>
>"Bama stuff is all ISO metric.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing

2012-08-17 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:47 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:

> any of the other weird british size wrench


That would be "Whitworth". Yeah, I've owned British iron before. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing

2012-08-17 Thread Dieselhead
oooh  YUK  I have not had contact with imperial or any of the other 
weird british size wrenched since I dumped my almost new turnip 41 
years ago in favor of the BMW R50/2.


USA uses/used SAE sizes.  We threw out Imperial with da king georg.

"Bama stuff is all ISO metric.


Why is that? End of the day the principles are the same it's just 
the tools and the cost of parts is different.
Which makes me wonder, if a Merc is assembled in the US of A is it 
made out of imperial nuts and bolts or metric?
Probably need something like this to properly work on them 
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BGS-Germany-171-pieces-Ratchet-Wrench-Tool-Socket-Set-/120660290661?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c17e9ec65


Hendrik
who has one of those tool kits

On 18/08/12 06:31, relng...@aol.com wrote:
I presume the vehicle has some sort of warranty? These are not very 
amenable to DIY. RLE







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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth

2012-08-17 Thread Hendrik & Fay

That's what shifters are for.

Hendrik
who has a few shifters

On 18/08/12 12:44, Fmiser wrote:
Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners. -- Philip 




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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing

2012-08-17 Thread Fmiser
> Hendrik & Fay wrote:

> Which makes me wonder, if a Merc is assembled in the US of A
> is it made out of imperial nuts and bolts or metric?

Odd as it may seem, automobiles have been using metric since the
mid 1980's.  For a few years there it was a bit annoying though
as some fasteners were metric and some SAE (fractional inch).
So the bolts holding the alternator bracket to the block are
SAE, but the bolt through the bracket into the alternator is
metric.

Kinda like dealing with Whitworth fasteners.

--   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing

2012-08-17 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Why is that? End of the day the principles are the same it's just the 
tools and the cost of parts is different.
Which makes me wonder, if a Merc is assembled in the US of A is it made 
out of imperial nuts and bolts or metric?
Probably need something like this to properly work on them 
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BGS-Germany-171-pieces-Ratchet-Wrench-Tool-Socket-Set-/120660290661?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c17e9ec65


Hendrik
who has one of those tool kits

On 18/08/12 06:31, relng...@aol.com wrote:
I presume the vehicle has some sort of warranty? These are not very 
amenable to DIY. RLE







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