Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Well, yes.   Toada drivers in general are poor drivers.


Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
November 15, 2017 at 9:18 AM


Just like the Tesla/Leaf et al. are actually Remote _Emissions_ Vehicles,
the piouses are Remote _Accident_ Vehicles?



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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Hey! you pig, THEY are "saving the planet!"


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 15, 2017 at 5:52 AM
I have to agree with Curley. Most of the Priii I see around my area 
are blowing past me on the interstate. In fact, I noticed one earlier 
this week during my commute that came up on me almost instantly. I 
expected it to be a very different car based on the speed it was 
approaching at. I usually do about 68 mph (speed limit is 65). They 
were easily doing in excess of 80.


Made me scratch my head.

-D



Only problem with their thinking is that your SDL saved the planet more 
than a pius will.

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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

It is not speed that kills, it is differences in speed.  Kind of like when
they say the fall won't kill you, it's the sudden stop at the end.

I think there used to be a statistic that said something like 90% of all
the road collisions happen to vehicles that are either in the top 10% of
the "normal" speed or in the bottom 10%.  The lesson was don't be the
fastest car on the road, but don't be the slowest car either.  Perhaps the
Pious drivers aren't in either group most of the time?  Regardless, driving
slower than most drivers is making you a "hazard to navigation" which is
not a good place to be.

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Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 9:41 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Why isn't the world famous Prius on that list?
> In my opinion Prius is one of the safest cars on the road for one
> principal reason: We Prius drivers drive slowly and carefully.
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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> In my opinion Prius is one of the safest cars on the road ... those
> [angered passing] drivers [are] involved in a crash on down the road...


Just like the Tesla/Leaf et al. are actually Remote _Emissions_ Vehicles,
the piouses are Remote _Accident_ Vehicles?

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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

The Prii around here are mostly driven by old people, and there is so little 
traffic compared to bigger counties, I haven't heard or read about any road 
rage incidents involving Prii, and I've never seen one exceeding the speed 
limit.
The only time I poke along is after midnight when there is virtually no traffic.
Gerry

> I have to agree with Curley.  Most of the Priii I see around my area are 
> blowing past me on the interstate.  In fact, I noticed one earlier this week 
> during my commute that came up on me almost instantly.  I expected it to be a 
> very different car based on the speed it was approaching at. I usually do 
> about 68 mph (speed limit is 65).  They were easily doing in excess of 80.
> 
> Made me scratch my head.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:10 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >> November 14, 2017 at 8:41 PM
> >> Why isn't the world famous Prius on that list?
> >> In my opinion Prius is one of the safest cars on the road for one 
> >> principal reason: We Prius drivers drive slowly and carefully. You'll 
> >> often see a dozen cars behind a Prius, fuming because they can't drive as 
> >> fast as they want. As soon as the road widens they go speeding by; shaking 
> >> their fists at us slow and careful Prius drivers. Almost inevitable, 
> >> you'll see two or more of those angry drivers involved in a crash on down 
> >> the road and it's their own fault. If they had driven slowly and carefully 
> >> like us Prius drivers they wouldn't have had an accident.
> >> Gerry...(waiting for the eruption.)
> >> ~~~
> >> 
> > Life is diff'runt in FL.Around here, the Pr go flying around on the 
> > interstates at 80 to 100.  I wonder how they think they are saving the 
> > planet by driving like fools.
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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have to agree with Curley.  Most of the Priii I see around my area are 
blowing past me on the interstate.  In fact, I noticed one earlier this week 
during my commute that came up on me almost instantly.  I expected it to be a 
very different car based on the speed it was approaching at. I usually do about 
68 mph (speed limit is 65).  They were easily doing in excess of 80.

Made me scratch my head.

-D


> On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:10 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> archer75--- via Mercedes 
>> November 14, 2017 at 8:41 PM
>> Why isn't the world famous Prius on that list?
>> In my opinion Prius is one of the safest cars on the road for one principal 
>> reason: We Prius drivers drive slowly and carefully. You'll often see a 
>> dozen cars behind a Prius, fuming because they can't drive as fast as they 
>> want. As soon as the road widens they go speeding by; shaking their fists at 
>> us slow and careful Prius drivers. Almost inevitable, you'll see two or more 
>> of those angry drivers involved in a crash on down the road and it's their 
>> own fault. If they had driven slowly and carefully like us Prius drivers 
>> they wouldn't have had an accident.
>> Gerry...(waiting for the eruption.)
>> ~~~
>> 
> Life is diff'runt in FL.Around here, the Pr go flying around on the 
> interstates at 80 to 100.  I wonder how they think they are saving the planet 
> by driving like fools.
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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 14, 2017 at 9:41 PM archer75--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> You'll often see a dozen cars behind a Prius, fuming because they can't drive 
> as fast as they want.

Prii cause road rage?
I have sometimes noticed that which you speak of. 
I drive slow on the freeway sometimes. 
Once I was going 60 in a 70 zone (55 minimum) trying to get a 30mpg tank out of 
the E320 wagon and merged onto a new freeway with a Prius up ahead. I 
reflexively slowed, no point in passing somebody who was going to repass me 
when he got up to speed. 1/4 mile later, I look down at the speedo and I'm 
going 45 (remember that 55 minimum speed limit) and still gaining on it at a 
good rate. I don't know why I didn't call 9-1-1 to tell the troopers about a 
drunk driver on the freeway. Probably because I was going too fast at 60 to 
read his plate when I flew by. Should have just said 'there's a blue Prius 
going a LOT less than 55 on I-69 SB, might want to check and see if he's sleepy 
or having a medical emergency or something'.
Good thing it was early afternoon with virtually no traffic. At 4-6pm he could 
have triggered a pile-up. 

Lately, the only Prii I notice are the ones impeding traffic in town when they 
refuse to go the 30mph speed limit (Charlotte did some 'traffic calming' about 
20 years ago and made a couple of major streets one lane each direction with no 
passing) and the ones that blow by me on the freeway (like everybody else) when 
I go 70mph in a 70 zone).
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

archer75--- via Mercedes 
November 14, 2017 at 8:41 PM
Why isn't the world famous Prius on that list?
In my opinion Prius is one of the safest cars on the road for one 
principal reason: We Prius drivers drive slowly and carefully. You'll 
often see a dozen cars behind a Prius, fuming because they can't drive 
as fast as they want. As soon as the road widens they go speeding by; 
shaking their fists at us slow and careful Prius drivers. Almost 
inevitable, you'll see two or more of those angry drivers involved in 
a crash on down the road and it's their own fault. If they had driven 
slowly and carefully like us Prius drivers they wouldn't have had an 
accident.

Gerry...(waiting for the eruption.)
~~~

Life is diff'runt in FL.Around here, the Pr go flying around on 
the interstates at 80 to 100.  I wonder how they think they are saving 
the planet by driving like fools.

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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Why isn't the world famous Prius on that list?
In my opinion Prius is one of the safest cars on the road for one principal 
reason: We Prius drivers drive slowly and carefully. You'll often see a dozen 
cars behind a Prius, fuming because they can't drive as fast as they want. As 
soon as the road widens they go speeding by; shaking their fists at us slow and 
careful Prius drivers. Almost inevitable, you'll see  two or more of those 
angry drivers involved in a crash on down the road and it's their own fault. If 
they had driven slowly and carefully like us Prius drivers they wouldn't have 
had an accident. 
Gerry...(waiting for the eruption.)
~~~ 
> > Greg Fiorentino wrote:
> > This is some info using a more practical standard:
> >
> > https://www.statisticbrain.com/driver-fatality-stats-by-auto-make/
> >
> > It still makes the ML look very good by comparison to some other 
> > vehicles. The "E" class is in the same ballpark.
> >
> > They beat the worst cars by a factor of about 10!
> >
> > That's a better feature IMO than good fuel economy.
> >
> > Greg
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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Which is why I say "Friends don't let friends drive toadas"  (That run 
away or burn you alive)



Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
November 11, 2017 at 6:25 PM
This is some info using a more practical standard:

https://www.statisticbrain.com/driver-fatality-stats-by-auto-make/

It still makes the ML look very good by comparison to some other 
vehicles. The "E" class is in the same ballpark.


They beat the worst cars by a factor of about 10!

That's a better feature IMO than good fuel economy.

Greg


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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

This is some info using a more practical standard:

https://www.statisticbrain.com/driver-fatality-stats-by-auto-make/

It still makes the ML look very good by comparison to some other vehicles. The 
"E" class is in the same ballpark.

They beat the worst cars by a factor of about 10!

That's a better feature IMO than good fuel economy.

Greg

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I heard some list of vehicles in which nobody was killed in an accident ( i 
think in 2016)  The Mercedes ML was one of those on the listing.

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Re: [MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You're saying that since inception, the ML series has not had ONE
fatality?  Or just in 2016?

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> I heard some list of vehicles in which nobody was killed in an accident (
> i think in 2016)  The Mercedes ML was one of those on the listing.
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[MBZ] Good for Greg (and others)

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I heard some list of vehicles in which nobody was killed in an accident 
( i think in 2016)  The Mercedes ML was one of those on the listing.


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