Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
I think their software sources from Helsinki, not Redmond. -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On May 14, 2012, at 23:23, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: What if you are asleep when the puter crashes? Or in the case of a motorhome, you might be out the back having a coffee and watching TV on the big screen. Hendrik who is not asleep at the wheel On 15/05/12 03:51, Randy Bennell wrote: On 11/05/2012 5:07 PM, Rolf wrote: I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car AT 150MPH. I suspect, that, if you are paying enough attention to know it needs to be re-set, then you will be able to steer, etc, while waiting for the auto pilot to once again function. Surely pilots have been doing that sort of thing with aircraft ever since the auto pilot was invented. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
On 11/05/2012 5:07 PM, Rolf wrote: I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car AT 150MPH. I suspect, that, if you are paying enough attention to know it needs to be re-set, then you will be able to steer, etc, while waiting for the auto pilot to once again function. Surely pilots have been doing that sort of thing with aircraft ever since the auto pilot was invented. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 14 May 2012 13:21:00 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 11/05/2012 5:07 PM, Rolf wrote: I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car AT 150MPH. I suspect, that, if you are paying enough attention to know it needs ^^^ Aye, there's the rub! to be re-set, then you will be able to steer, etc, while waiting for the auto pilot to once again function. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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What if you are asleep when the puter crashes? Or in the case of a motorhome, you might be out the back having a coffee and watching TV on the big screen. Hendrik who is not asleep at the wheel On 15/05/12 03:51, Randy Bennell wrote: On 11/05/2012 5:07 PM, Rolf wrote: I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car AT 150MPH. I suspect, that, if you are paying enough attention to know it needs to be re-set, then you will be able to steer, etc, while waiting for the auto pilot to once again function. Surely pilots have been doing that sort of thing with aircraft ever since the auto pilot was invented. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: One more reason to own an old Benz. If I stab the brakes to just miss a deer running in front of me I surely don't want the car to decide that I need to brake more. I'm a huge fan of BAS after experiencing it working one early morning right at sunrise when a truck with no tail lights pulled out in front if me. Trust me, it KNOWS when you are in a panic, and safely reduces your speed as quickly as possible. I'd much rather have the idiot behind me rear-end my car than have a frontal collision with air bag deployment. I doubt a sharp brake application to avoid an animal would activate it. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The new Benzes have many shortcomings compared to the vintages I am currently driving but I have to admit that they are in every way safer vehicles to drive under any and all circumstances. The belief that any human can act appropriately in the milliseconds they have to actually make a difference during an accident is a young man's delusion. Half the time your fate is in the hands of the other vehicle - and its driver. To put it another way: the better a driver you are - the more likely it's the other guy that will kill you. What safety features do you want his vehicle to have? -Dave Walton On May 12, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: One more reason to own an old Benz. If I stab the brakes to just miss a deer running in front of me I surely don't want the car to decide that I need to brake more. Too bad folks just can't take the time to learn to drive well instead of depending on the car to make up for their shortcomings. Mike On May 12, 2012 12:40 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:55:07 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Amazingly enough, I still haven't triggered the BAS in my 210 wagon. I would have been ticked if the BAS had kicked in and thrown my laptop off the back seat. BAS? Brake assist system. The car (1998 or later 210, 2000 or later of just about any MBZ) decides when you're in a panic situation but failing to jam the brakes on full, and jams them on full for you. Hope your computer is in the footwell and nobody is following close behind you. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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One more reason to own an old Benz. If I stab the brakes to just miss a deer running in front of me I surely don't want the car to decide that I need to brake more. Too bad folks just can't take the time to learn to drive well instead of depending on the car to make up for their shortcomings. Mike On May 12, 2012 12:40 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:55:07 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Amazingly enough, I still haven't triggered the BAS in my 210 wagon. I would have been ticked if the BAS had kicked in and thrown my laptop off the back seat. BAS? Brake assist system. The car (1998 or later 210, 2000 or later of just about any MBZ) decides when you're in a panic situation but failing to jam the brakes on full, and jams them on full for you. Hope your computer is in the footwell and nobody is following close behind you. Mitch. __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So what happens when the OS lags or crashes? Does the car just die and leave you temporarily stranded? That won't be pleasant if it happens in the middle of a busy street or freeway and you're left blocking traffic. I would hope that the car OS is more reliable than the current Android. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) On 5/9/2012 6:26 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada, which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip. The self-driving cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use public roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination of mapping data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds. Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City and the busy Las Vegas Strip, they said in a statement. It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March. The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now be allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying a distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left side. Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military firms to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric Schmidt has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human drivers is a bug. It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars, he said in 2010 as Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University. As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws to allow autonomous cars on its roads. The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error, California state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced autonomous car legislation. Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and operating the vehicle more safely. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/9252275/Googles-robot-cars-pass-driving-test.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I would guess (hope) they are using a real-time OS maybe VxWorks. Allan On Fri, May 11, 2012, at 08:10 AM, Benz Hogs wrote: So what happens when the OS lags or crashes? Does the car just die and leave you temporarily stranded? That won't be pleasant if it happens in the middle of a busy street or freeway and you're left blocking traffic. I would hope that the car OS is more reliable than the current Android. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Really? I find my Android OS to be very stable..for a phonelol. I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car in order to use it. I AM impressed with the Android OS. It seems to work great for everything I use it for and my Evo 4g has seen hard, daily abuse as my only internet connection(I use 20gigs a month on it) and has only needed reset twice in the last couple months. Otherwise it has been trouble free. I still don't think I would be comfortable trusting it with my life. Mike On May 11, 2012 9:10 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: So what happens when the OS lags or crashes? Does the car just die and leave you temporarily stranded? That won't be pleasant if it happens in the middle of a busy street or freeway and you're left blocking traffic. I would hope that the car OS is more reliable than the current Android. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) On 5/9/2012 6:26 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada, which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip. The self-driving cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use public roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination of mapping data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds. Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City and the busy Las Vegas Strip, they said in a statement. It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March. The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now be allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying a distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left side. Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military firms to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric Schmidt has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human drivers is a bug. It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars, he said in 2010 as Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University. As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws to allow autonomous cars on its roads. The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error, California state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced autonomous car legislation. Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and operating the vehicle more safely. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/**technology/google/9252275/** Googles-robot-cars-pass-**driving-test.htmlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/9252275/Googles-robot-cars-pass-driving-test.html __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
The core of Android is just a stripped down/customized Linux. It should be reasonably stable. I would guess that any robot cars would have a failure behavior of fall back to manual control which admittedly might not work out too well depending on how closely the human driver is paying attention. Allan On Fri, May 11, 2012, at 09:25 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Really? I find my Android OS to be very stable..for a phonelol. I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car in order to use it. I AM impressed with the Android OS. It seems to work great for everything I use it for and my Evo 4g has seen hard, daily abuse as my only internet connection(I use 20gigs a month on it) and has only needed reset twice in the last couple months. Otherwise it has been trouble free. I still don't think I would be comfortable trusting it with my life. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Relax... it's a windows based system... it couldn't crash . ;)) Guess the coming EMP from solar flair isn't a concern either... I'll keep driving my indirect injection non-computer diesel as long as I can get parts and find fuel... tyvm Remember,, to err is human... to forgive is divine... try suing the computer next time the car behind rams you at a stoplight. Lawyers should love this system.. google has really deep pockets... for now.. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: So what happens when the OS lags or crashes? Does the car just die and leave you temporarily stranded? That won't be pleasant if it happens in the middle of a busy street or freeway and you're left blocking traffic. I would hope that the car OS is more reliable than the current Android. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) On 5/9/2012 6:26 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada, which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip. The self-driving cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use public roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination of mapping data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds. Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City and the busy Las Vegas Strip, they said in a statement. It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March. The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now be allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying a distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left side. Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military firms to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric Schmidt has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human drivers is a bug. It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars, he said in 2010 as Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University. As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws to allow autonomous cars on its roads. The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error, California state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced autonomous car legislation. Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and operating the vehicle more safely. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/**technology/google/9252275/** Googles-robot-cars-pass-**driving-test.htmlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/9252275/Googles-robot-cars-pass-driving-test.html __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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So who is at fault if you're drunk in a self driving car? Walt On May 11, 2012 9:51 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: Relax... it's a windows based system... it couldn't crash . ;)) Guess the coming EMP from solar flair isn't a concern either... I'll keep driving my indirect injection non-computer diesel as long as I can get parts and find fuel... tyvm Remember,, to err is human... to forgive is divine... try suing the computer next time the car behind rams you at a stoplight. Lawyers should love this system.. google has really deep pockets... for now.. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: So what happens when the OS lags or crashes? Does the car just die and leave you temporarily stranded? That won't be pleasant if it happens in the middle of a busy street or freeway and you're left blocking traffic. I would hope that the car OS is more reliable than the current Android. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) On 5/9/2012 6:26 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada, which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip. The self-driving cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use public roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination of mapping data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds. Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City and the busy Las Vegas Strip, they said in a statement. It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March. The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now be allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying a distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left side. Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military firms to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric Schmidt has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human drivers is a bug. It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars, he said in 2010 as Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University. As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws to allow autonomous cars on its roads. The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error, California state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced autonomous car legislation. Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and operating the vehicle more safely. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/**technology/google/9252275/** Googles-robot-cars-pass-**driving-test.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/9252275/Googles-robot-cars-pass-driving-test.html __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm please with Android also, but don't find it reliable enough to make me feel safe in a car that is controlled by it, or the step-brother... Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) On 5/11/2012 8:25 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Really? I find my Android OS to be very stable..for a phonelol. I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car in order to use it. I AM impressed with the Android OS. It seems to work great for everything I use it for and my Evo 4g has seen hard, daily abuse as my only internet connection(I use 20gigs a month on it) and has only needed reset twice in the last couple months. Otherwise it has been trouble free. I still don't think I would be comfortable trusting it with my life. Mike On May 11, 2012 9:10 AM, Benz Hogsbenz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: So what happens when the OS lags or crashes? Does the car just die and leave you temporarily stranded? That won't be pleasant if it happens in the middle of a busy street or freeway and you're left blocking traffic. I would hope that the car OS is more reliable than the current Android. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Just to lighten up things a bit, for those of us that believe Klakita Klakita really is music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1feature=endscreenv=Ri6dRwSdmxM Grant... AZ A the smell of diesel smoke in the morning On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: I'm please with Android also, but don't find it reliable enough to make me feel safe in a car that is controlled by it, or the step-brother... Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) On 5/11/2012 8:25 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Really? I find my Android OS to be very stable..for a phonelol. I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car in order to use it. I AM impressed with the Android OS. It seems to work great for everything I use it for and my Evo 4g has seen hard, daily abuse as my only internet connection(I use 20gigs a month on it) and has only needed reset twice in the last couple months. Otherwise it has been trouble free. I still don't think I would be comfortable trusting it with my life. Mike On May 11, 2012 9:10 AM, Benz Hogsbenz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: So what happens when the OS lags or crashes? Does the car just die and leave you temporarily stranded? That won't be pleasant if it happens in the middle of a busy street or freeway and you're left blocking traffic. I would hope that the car OS is more reliable than the current Android. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have a HP Touchpad that is rooted and running Android ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich). Despite the ROM being a beta, it runs great and works quite well for me. I have never had a problem with it since I began using it back in February. Dan On May 11, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Really? I find my Android OS to be very stable..for a phonelol. I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car in order to use it. I AM impressed with the Android OS. It seems to work great for everything I use it for and my Evo 4g has seen hard, daily abuse as my only internet connection(I use 20gigs a month on it) and has only needed reset twice in the last couple months. Otherwise it has been trouble free. I still don't think I would be comfortable trusting it with my life. Mike On May 11, 2012 9:10 AM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: So what happens when the OS lags or crashes? Does the car just die and leave you temporarily stranded? That won't be pleasant if it happens in the middle of a busy street or freeway and you're left blocking traffic. I would hope that the car OS is more reliable than the current Android. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) On 5/9/2012 6:26 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada, which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip. The self-driving cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use public roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination of mapping data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds. Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City and the busy Las Vegas Strip, they said in a statement. It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March. The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now be allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying a distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left side. Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military firms to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric Schmidt has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human drivers is a bug. It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars, he said in 2010 as Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University. As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws to allow autonomous cars on its roads. The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error, California state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced autonomous car legislation. Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and operating the vehicle more safely. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/**technology/google/9252275/** Googles-robot-cars-pass-**driving-test.htmlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/9252275/Googles-robot-cars-pass-driving-test.html __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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or the current M$, even though it is much improved over the NT4/98/millenium virus days. So what happens when the OS lags or crashes? Does the car just die and leave you temporarily stranded? That won't be pleasant if it happens in the middle of a busy street or freeway and you're left blocking traffic. I would hope that the car OS is more reliable than the current Android. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) On 5/9/2012 6:26 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada, which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip. The self-driving cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use public roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination of mapping data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds. Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City and the busy Las Vegas Strip, they said in a statement. It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March. The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now be allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying a distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left side. Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military firms to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric Schmidt has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human drivers is a bug. It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars, he said in 2010 as Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University. As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws to allow autonomous cars on its roads. The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error, California state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced autonomous car legislation. Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and operating the vehicle more safely. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/9252275/Googles-robot-cars-pass-driving-test.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Back to the original subject. It occurs to me that it might be a great idea if all new immigrants were required to have a car that was operated without their input. I am almost run off the road daily by people who have no idea whatsoever how to drive. On my way back to the office after lunch, an asian woman in a Jeep Patriot zoomed up past me and changed lanes into the spot between me and the vehicle ahead. If I had not braked fairly hard, I would have run into her. She either did not know how to change lanes or really did not give a proverbial you know what about me or my vehicle. My first thought was, to swap the F150 Supercrew for and F350 Crew and get a heavy duty front bumper and bull-bar so that the next one can be punted into another time zone. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I've often thought of a snow plow-type blade on front of car to roll them up
and over and off to side.
BTW, leaving Lowe's yesterday, 'met a fairly new Buick driven/occupied by a
true/real codger. Before he got to driveway into parking area, I could
already tell that he was going to turn too early; 'even said aloud to
myself, He's gonna turn across end of that median. Shonuff, both
right-hand wheels right up over the curb; rear one through middle of plants.
Driver never hesitated; never looked back. I still don't think he has any
idea what he did. --And license examiners are concerned about MY driving -
where the Hell was license examiner when that codger renewed his license?
Examiners and many people see me using the walker and seem to think I'm
blind, deaf, dumb, stupid, ignorant, helpless and incompetent. When I
renewed license 5 years ago, examiner saw the walker and asked, Why are you
using the walker? I replied, I have trouble standing and walking safely,
NOT sitting and driving. Examiner gruffly went on, Well, I'll hafta go
for a drive with you. OK, that's fine, I said. At car ('87 300D), I
said to examiner, You need to run the seat back some - switch right there
on the door. He ran it back some and got in (well, squeezed his very
rotund-and-uniform-busting self in, anyway), and said, Ok, let's go. I
said, Your door is not fully closed and latched. He closed door, OK, he
grunted. I said, Your seat belt? He fumbled for it, Where is it? I
pointed, On the post there by your right shoulder. He finally got it on.
I backed out. As we approached street, examiner said, Take a right. I
knew that would take us out onto VERY busy and fast 4-lane, divided street.
I certainly didn't mind driving wherever he wanted, but I really didn't
think he wanted to do driving test out there. I asked, Right, turn? Oh,
no, I meant left turn, he grunted. After that, whenever he'd give a
direction, I'd reply, Understand left turn, right turn, etc., aviation
checklist style. 'Didn't want him saying he had said one thing and I did
another, etc.
Renewal coming up again in week or so. 'Probably hafta go for 'nother
drive, and that's Ok; Helluva lot of others need to be taken for a drive by
the examiners, too.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
Back to the original subject.
It occurs to me that it might be a great idea if all new immigrants were
required to have a car that was operated without their input.
I am almost run off the road daily by people who have no idea whatsoever
how to drive.
On my way back to the office after lunch, an asian woman in a Jeep Patriot
zoomed up past me and changed lanes into the spot between me and the
vehicle ahead. If I had not braked fairly hard, I would have run into her.
She either did not know how to change lanes or really did not give a
proverbial you know what about me or my vehicle.
My first thought was, to swap the F150 Supercrew for and F350 Crew and get
a heavy duty front bumper and bull-bar so that the next one can be punted
into another time zone.
Randy
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I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car AT 150MPH. On 5/11/2012 9:25 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Really? I find my Android OS to be very stable..for a phonelol. I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car in order to use it. I AM impressed with the Android OS. It seems to work great for everything I use it for and my Evo 4g has seen hard, daily abuse as my only internet connection(I use 20gigs a month on it) and has only needed reset twice in the last couple months. Otherwise it has been trouble free. I still don't think I would be comfortable trusting it with my life. Mike On May 11, 2012 9:10 AM, Benz Hogsbenz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: So what happens when the OS lags or crashes? Does the car just die and leave you temporarily stranded? That won't be pleasant if it happens in the middle of a busy street or freeway and you're left blocking traffic. I would hope that the car OS is more reliable than the current Android. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) On 5/9/2012 6:26 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada, which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip. The self-driving cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use public roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination of mapping data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds. Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City and the busy Las Vegas Strip, they said in a statement. It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March. The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now be allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying a distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left side. Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military firms to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric Schmidt has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human drivers is a bug. It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars, he said in 2010 as Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University. As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws to allow autonomous cars on its roads. The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error, California state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced autonomous car legislation. Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and operating the vehicle more safely. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/**technology/google/9252275/** Googles-robot-cars-pass-**driving-test.htmlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/9252275/Googles-robot-cars-pass-driving-test.html __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Ask BMW about their BSOD' when they first rolled out windows to their cars. Cars that wouldnt unlock for instance. To err is human, but who writes the code for these cars? Humans! I'll stick with my EMP proof ol brenner thanks! -Rolf On 5/11/2012 9:50 AM, G Mann wrote: Relax... it's a windows based system... it couldn't crash . ;)) Guess the coming EMP from solar flair isn't a concern either... I'll keep driving my indirect injection non-computer diesel as long as I can get parts and find fuel... tyvm Remember,, to err is human... to forgive is divine... try suing the computer next time the car behind rams you at a stoplight. Lawyers should love this system.. google has really deep pockets... for now.. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 6:10 AM, Benz Hogsbenz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: So what happens when the OS lags or crashes? Does the car just die and leave you temporarily stranded? That won't be pleasant if it happens in the middle of a busy street or freeway and you're left blocking traffic. I would hope that the car OS is more reliable than the current Android. Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '87 300SDL (325,xxx mi) On 5/9/2012 6:26 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada, which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip. The self-driving cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use public roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination of mapping data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds. Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City and the busy Las Vegas Strip, they said in a statement. It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March. The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now be allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying a distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left side. Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military firms to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric Schmidt has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human drivers is a bug. It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars, he said in 2010 as Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University. As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws to allow autonomous cars on its roads. The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error, California state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced autonomous car legislation. Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and operating the vehicle more safely. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/**technology/google/9252275/** Googles-robot-cars-pass-**driving-test.htmlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/9252275/Googles-robot-cars-pass-driving-test.html __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's not the kernal that's the problem - it's the drivers in most cases. Then comes the third party software. No, I don't want software driving me around at more than 25 mph. I ws almost run off the road today by a young blond driving a Honda, and she wasn't even talking on the cell phone- just oblivious to ALL the cars around her on the four lane 70 mph section of I-35. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: The core of Android is just a stripped down/customized Linux. It should be reasonably stable. I would guess that any robot cars would have a failure behavior of fall back to manual control which admittedly might not work out too well depending on how closely the human driver is paying attention. Allan On Fri, May 11, 2012, at 09:25 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Really? I find my Android OS to be very stable..for a phonelol. I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car in order to use it. I AM impressed with the Android OS. It seems to work great for everything I use it for and my Evo 4g has seen hard, daily abuse as my only internet connection(I use 20gigs a month on it) and has only needed reset twice in the last couple months. Otherwise it has been trouble free. I still don't think I would be comfortable trusting it with my life. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I love the people that blink their signal once, in the opposite direction, then swoop in like a bird of prey... Walt On May 11, 2012 7:24 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: It's not the kernal that's the problem - it's the drivers in most cases. Then comes the third party software. No, I don't want software driving me around at more than 25 mph. I ws almost run off the road today by a young blond driving a Honda, and she wasn't even talking on the cell phone- just oblivious to ALL the cars around her on the four lane 70 mph section of I-35. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: The core of Android is just a stripped down/customized Linux. It should be reasonably stable. I would guess that any robot cars would have a failure behavior of fall back to manual control which admittedly might not work out too well depending on how closely the human driver is paying attention. Allan On Fri, May 11, 2012, at 09:25 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: Really? I find my Android OS to be very stable..for a phonelol. I don't think I want to have to call tech support and do a hard reset on my car in order to use it. I AM impressed with the Android OS. It seems to work great for everything I use it for and my Evo 4g has seen hard, daily abuse as my only internet connection(I use 20gigs a month on it) and has only needed reset twice in the last couple months. Otherwise it has been trouble free. I still don't think I would be comfortable trusting it with my life. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Randy Bennell wrote: Back to the original subject. It occurs to me that it might be a great idea if all new immigrants were required to have a car that was operated without their input. I'm not sure about immigrants, but in USA, illegal aliens are untouchable. They drive without licenses or insurance, and many of the cops don't even waste their time writing tickets when the illegals crash into legal residents. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Walt Zarnoch wrote: I love the people that blink their signal once, in the opposite direction, then swoop in like a bird of prey... Today I was rolling along in the right lane on a 30mph street, when the car in front of me on the left slowed to 10-15mph for a RR crossing. Then they turned right from the left lane. I was approaching the tracks at 30mph with my cruise control on. I rarely brake for RR tracks in town, and never in a Mercedes. Amazingly enough, I still haven't triggered the BAS in my 210 wagon. I would have been ticked if the BAS had kicked in and thrown my laptop off the back seat. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: BTW, leaving Lowe's yesterday, 'met a fairly new Buick driven/occupied by a true/real codger. I rarely see a Buick with a driver under about age 70. Always joke that the Buick Century was named after the average age of its owners. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:55:07 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Amazingly enough, I still haven't triggered the BAS in my 210 wagon. I would have been ticked if the BAS had kicked in and thrown my laptop off the back seat. BAS? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Craig wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:55:07 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Amazingly enough, I still haven't triggered the BAS in my 210 wagon. I would have been ticked if the BAS had kicked in and thrown my laptop off the back seat. BAS? Brake assist system. The car (1998 or later 210, 2000 or later of just about any MBZ) decides when you're in a panic situation but failing to jam the brakes on full, and jams them on full for you. Hope your computer is in the footwell and nobody is following close behind you. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada, which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip. The self-driving cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use public roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination of mapping data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds. Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City and the busy Las Vegas Strip, they said in a statement. It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March. The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now be allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying a distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left side. Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military firms to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric Schmidt has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human drivers is a bug. It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars, he said in 2010 as Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University. As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws to allow autonomous cars on its roads. The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error, California state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced autonomous car legislation. Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and operating the vehicle more safely. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/9252275/Googles-robot-cars-pass-driving-test.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
Open pod bay doors... On an underpowered prius, sure. On anything with a few hundred horse, NO! Walt On May 9, 2012 7:44 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Google's autonomous cars have passed their first driving test in Nevada, which included a trip along the famous Las Vegas Strip. The self-driving cars are based on Toyota's hybrid hatchback The desert state is the first to grant the vehicles a licence to use public roads. They are controlled by computers processing a combination of mapping data, radar, laser sensors and video feeds. Officials from the Nevada Department of Motor Vehicles rode in the cars along freeways, state highways and neighborhoods both in Carson City and the busy Las Vegas Strip, they said in a statement. It comes after Nevada passed laws to create a new type of licence for autonomous vehicles last year, which came into effect on 1 March. The autonomous cars, based on Toyota Prius hybrid hatchbacks, will now be allowed on public roads for further development and testing, carrying a distinctive red licence plate with an infinity symbol on the left side. Google is one off several firms racing to develop cars able to drive themselves. It is competing with car manufacturers as well as military firms to develop the technology. The web giant's executive chairman Eric Schmidt has argued that the fact that current vehicles rely on human drivers is a bug. It's amazing to me that we let humans drive cars, he said in 2010 as Google ramped up its research,in partnetship with Stanford University. As well as Nevada, Google's home state of California is considering laws to allow autonomous cars on its roads. The vast majority of vehicle accidents are due to human error, California state Senator Alex Padilla said in March when he introduced autonomous car legislation. Through the use of computers, sensors and other systems, an autonomous vehicle is capable of analyzing the driving environment more quickly and operating the vehicle more safely. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/**technology/google/9252275/** Googles-robot-cars-pass-**driving-test.htmlhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/9252275/Googles-robot-cars-pass-driving-test.html __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
You've clearly never driven a Prius... At least compared to an diesel Mercedes I've ever driven. -Curt Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 07:52:11 -0400 From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test Message-ID: cad5mqpgfmnf1tq-+kvljb2ipy5xoczhaer1cvo2wfuykavy...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Open pod bay doors... On an underpowered prius, sure. On anything with a few hundred horse, NO! Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
I've been stuck behind a few on the thruway... Rolling roadblock on line one, rolling roadblock on line one... Going 60 in the fast lane of a 65 marked road... Walt On May 9, 2012 9:07 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You've clearly never driven a Prius... At least compared to an diesel Mercedes I've ever driven. -Curt Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 07:52:11 -0400 From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test Message-ID: cad5mqpgfmnf1tq-+kvljb2ipy5xoczhaer1cvo2wfuykavy...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Open pod bay doors... On an underpowered prius, sure. On anything with a few hundred horse, NO! Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
Just because people drive them slowly doesn't mean they can't be driven rapidly... I should like to point out that I have one of the most rapidly driven W123s I've ever seen. It seems like many people don't dare to drive a diesel care very rapidly... -Curt Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:10:46 -0400 From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test Message-ID: CAD5MqPGvCzVMca=eT1SHMMvNUNKJtKuRY2=851kbo2yamay...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been stuck behind a few on the thruway... Rolling roadblock on line one, rolling roadblock on line one... Going 60 in the fast lane of a 65 marked road... Walt On May 9, 2012 9:07 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: You've clearly never driven a Prius... At least compared to an diesel Mercedes I've ever driven. -Curt Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 07:52:11 -0400 From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test Message-ID: cad5mqpgfmnf1tq-+kvljb2ipy5xoczhaer1cvo2wfuykavy...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Open pod bay doors... On an underpowered prius, sure. On anything with a few hundred horse, NO! Walt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Google's robot cars pass driving test
I was reading this article about that woman Danica Patrick who is going to be racing at Darlington or somewhere, and it was saying it was the hardest track. Then last night I watched some Top Gear episodes, one where they were running a new McLaren on the track. Got me wondering how difficult it would be to take that Google technology, add in all the car systems and sensors, then have it learn how to drive a track really really fast. I am thinking it would not be that hard to do, airplanes do that sort of thing pretty well these days -- 4D navigation and such. It would be kinda fun to see a bunch of robot cars, unlimited power, etc. race on these tracks. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
