Re: [MBZ] Headlight, bubout relay WAS: 124 TS Stalk

2015-12-10 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Take the whole fuse box out, then you can get to the plug underneath.  
Don't remember how many screws and where, but the box comes out. 
Had to do this to get to the wires on the fuses when I put in a 
jumper wire.


Peter


How do you take the whole fuse box out to get to the relays?  I don't 
see any screws or clips.  I've had the fusebox out to get to the 
wiring underneath.  It is still out.  I don't see any way to release 
the relay holder part, or the whole thing from the inner 
fender/firewall.


On the Texas 300D, 124,  I need to change the bubout relay.  On the 
POSitive, I need to change the window relay.  Same problem with both 
cars.  I cant get the back ice cube relay out with the needlenose 
pliers, no way to get fingers back there.  The long bent needlenose 
have the bent part too loong to pull the ice cube relay.


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Re: [MBZ] Headlight, bubout relay WAS: 124 TS Stalk

2015-12-09 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Take the whole fuse box out, then you can get to the plug underneath.   
Don't remember how many screws and where, but the box comes out.  Had  
to do this to get to the wires on the fuses when I put in a jumper wire.


Peter

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[MBZ] Headlight, bubout relay WAS: 124 TS Stalk

2015-12-09 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The lamp out module is in the relay box, behind the fuses.  You have 
to remove the plastic cover to get to it.


Two failures, either the solder in the base wires (or the "sockets" 
pushing down away from the pins on the module) or cracked solder in 
the lamp out module itself.  You can pry the cover off and re-solder 
most times.


Peter


I figured out it is the huge relay box.  tried to pull it out, but it 
would not budge.  Pulled on it with channellocks, and got it up, but 
not out.  With better light, I could see the front plug and rear plug 
were still attached to the relay.  Not good.


I got the front plug off with a screwdriver, but the rear plug 
resisted all efforts.  I tried pulling the relay from the SDL with 
the same results, except that the SDL relay is accessible, where the 
124 relay is up under the steel of the cowl.


The back plug resisted the screwdriver, so i thought i could wiggle 
it off with a machinists scribe.  the scribe would not budge it 
either.  it only messed up the point on the scribe.


Very frustrating.  They didn't build 123s with crappy plugs like 
this!  Glad I don't have a cheep class!  If the socket plug was all 
in one, it would either tear out the whole socket, or the relay would 
come out.  with 3 separate plugs, one of which there is no way to get 
to with the relay plugged in, it is NOT "the best or nothing"


Peter, how did you get the relay out?

This is a crummy way to light the headlights.  I can live without the 
bubba's bubout "feature."


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Re: [MBZ] Headlight, bubout relay WAS: 124 TS Stalk

2015-12-09 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Take the whole fuse box out, then you can get to the plug underneath.  
Don't remember how many screws and where, but the box comes out. 
Had to do this to get to the wires on the fuses when I put in a 
jumper wire.


Peter


I found the schematics online.

http://w124-zone.com/downloads/MB%20CD/W124/w124CD1/Program/ETM/ETM.pdf

144 is the windows.  Did not look for the bubout yet.  That problem 
is a mechanical one, but I will look at the schematic and may get an 
idea as to how to get the lights on a different way.


It is also on Dave Meiman's site

http://www.w124performance.com/service/w124CD1/Program/ETM/ETM.pdf

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