Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe
Mine is a 5spd. Mpg will be down because of our light winter fuel, figure an extra 10% just from that, so I could adjust to 37mpg... Then add on the fact that I've been driving the stink out of it. I've been quite pleased with the extra power of the 2.2l over my 240D. Also with the lousy old shift bushings 5th gear was a bit of a challenge so I was probably waiting awhile longer to shift than I needed to. -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:36:52 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed is your 190D auto or stick? Curt Raymond wrote: Hi Brian, I think you'll find that to be a pretty terrific number for a 240D. The best I've done in 50kmi with mine is 31.6mpg. I expect if I lived somewhere with no traffic so I could merge gently onto the highway or if I could force myself to drive 400 miles at 65mph I could do better but it would really take some work. The best tank out of my 190D 2.2l so far is around 34mpg but its improved with every tank. I think the car hadn't been driven much before I bought it. -Curt '85 190D Dory 234kmi '83 240D Hammie 253kmi -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 27 01:11:56 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc14.comcast.net ([204.127.192.84]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDWvc-0005mI-5Z for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 01:11:56 + Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-3-195-27.hsd1.pa.comcast.net[24.3.195.27]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc14) with ESMTP id 20060227011152m1400398jie; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 01:11:52 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:11:51 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 01:11:56 - Curt Raymond wrote: Mine is a 5spd. Mpg will be down because of our light winter fuel, figure an extra 10% just from that, so I could adjust to 37mpg... Then add on the fact that I've been driving the stink out of it. I've been quite pleased with the extra power of the 2.2l over my 240D. Also with the lousy old shift bushings 5th gear was a bit of a challenge so I was probably waiting awhile longer to shift than I needed to. -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:36:52 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed is your 190D auto or stick? Curt Raymond wrote: Hi Brian, I think you'll find that to be a pretty terrific number for a 240D. The best I've done in 50kmi with mine is 31.6mpg. I expect if I lived somewhere with no traffic so I could merge gently onto the highway or if I could force myself to drive 400 miles at 65mph I could do better but it would really take some work. The best tank out of my 190D 2.2l so far is around 34mpg but its improved with every tank. I think the car hadn't been driven much before I bought it. When you shift will have surprisingly little influence on fuel economy. Never put it into 5th until you are well over 40-45 mph! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe
Really? I keep forgetting to use 5th, I've gotten so used to a 4spd after 50kmi. I'm probably going an extra 10-15 miles out of my 80 mile round trip commute in 4th when I could be in 5th. I figure thats 50-75 miles a week. If I want best fuel economy I need to be driving more gently and getting into 5th at about 50mph right? -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:11:51 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed When you shift will have surprisingly little influence on fuel economy. Never put it into 5th until you are well over 40-45 mph! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Feb 27 16:07:19 2006 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.204]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDku7-0001I5-A2 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:07:19 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 13so929431nzp for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:07:17 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=QvS5bdoDgbIx6bPcLmOjcgmWhQAISh7zHeahExoMlRrU0yVK4uaKqFlFdcm7GHj62YG964LeYDvR45joHhHxPMlQ4F2qBe/jh7eY+JY6WeNTdnaYYQARrzumSatTTIFm2ag4BASm6y/krZEZAgx1HbRrl9fo3HY7bo0mt77OsGs= Received: by 10.64.21.20 with SMTP id 20mr4945420qbu; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.232.20 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 08:07:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:07:16 -0700 From: Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Cc: Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:07:19 - Kaleb, Every engine is different, so if you want to do extended drains, you should at least do one or two oil analyses on the engine in question. Like Marshall said, the 61x engines may produce more soot, at least mine did. Johnny B's don't but he's probably the exception, lol. On a diesel the limiting factor is usually the soot load, assuming you don't have a bypass 'TP' filter. When you hit 2%, it's time to change. On a gas engine, I believe the limit will be the TBN number along with wear metals, etc. Once again this varies by driving style, engine condition, number of cold starts, etc. For normal use, I suspect a lot of gassers can go the same 10-20k between changes if the engine is in good shape. Oil filter capacity is another factor... the MB diesels have oversize filters, but the gassers may not. So, some engines may need filter changes every 5k or something. (??) There's a really interesting test/study at this link. I found the part interesting where adding a quart of fresh oil substantially boosted the TBN numbers. The third bullet near the top, claiming that 3k changes actually *increases* wear, was news to me... bizarre: http://neptune.spacebears.com/cars/stories/mobil1.html :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:24:54 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] ok, all this talk about M1 has me wondering So we figured out that most 603's can go 15k miles on m1(or amsoil). What about older 617, 616, 615 etc? Ok, so what about gas cars like 103's, 117's etc? How long can they go. Same miles, more miles, less miles? I would think more miles since they are not going to have the soot problems.
Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe
Really? I keep forgetting to use 5th, I've gotten so used to a 4spd after 50kmi. I'm probably going an extra 10-15 miles out of my 80 mile round trip commute in 4th when I could be in 5th. I figure thats 50-75 miles a week. If I want best fuel economy I need to be driving more gently and getting into 5th at about 50mph right? These diesels are much less sensitive to RPM as a factor in mileage when compared to gassers. Consider the evidence of those who routinely run in S around town: essentially no change in mileage, even with a substantial portion of around-town driving. But yes, it ought to help some on the highway. (And might make a more significant difference in oil consumption.) -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe
So, if not very sensitive to rpms, are they sensitive to load? Not so much referring to the weight carried in the car, or the terrain, but I'm talking about whether you stab the accelerator vs. letting the rpms gradually climb? Brian 83 240D From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:26:11 -0800 Really? I keep forgetting to use 5th, I've gotten so used to a 4spd after 50kmi. I'm probably going an extra 10-15 miles out of my 80 mile round trip commute in 4th when I could be in 5th. I figure thats 50-75 miles a week. If I want best fuel economy I need to be driving more gently and getting into 5th at about 50mph right? These diesels are much less sensitive to RPM as a factor in mileage when compared to gassers. Consider the evidence of those who routinely run in S around town: essentially no change in mileage, even with a substantial portion of around-town driving. But yes, it ought to help some on the highway. (And might make a more significant difference in oil consumption.) -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
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On Feb 27, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: Really? I keep forgetting to use 5th, I've gotten so used to a 4spd after 50kmi. I'm probably going an extra 10-15 miles out of my 80 mile round trip commute in 4th when I could be in 5th. I figure thats 50-75 miles a week. If I want best fuel economy I need to be driving more gently and getting into 5th at about 50mph right? -Curt On flat ground that would be feasible although the engine would be rather unresponsive to your right foot. On hilly terrain you'd want to keep the revs in the sweet spot to avoid lugging. I drove a 2.2 5spd for a long time, great combination. I love 1st being so low that you need not increase rpms on take off, they're near impossible to stall. Humming along nicely at 80-90 in 5th. I don't recall top speed but it was noteworthy for such a small power plant. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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Hi Brian, I think you'll find that to be a pretty terrific number for a 240D. The best I've done in 50kmi with mine is 31.6mpg. I expect if I lived somewhere with no traffic so I could merge gently onto the highway or if I could force myself to drive 400 miles at 65mph I could do better but it would really take some work. The best tank out of my 190D 2.2l so far is around 34mpg but its improved with every tank. I think the car hadn't been driven much before I bought it. -Curt '85 190D Dory 234kmi '83 240D Hammie 253kmi Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:23:28 -0700 From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed AAaak. I found out it was 32.6 MPG. I'm still pretty happy - especially considering the terrain and the luggage/tools/supplies. Brian - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 26 15:43:12 2006 Received: from web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.45]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDO3E-0005KC-SJ for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:43:12 + Received: (qmail 45237 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Feb 2006 15:43:05 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yCSiL0KXdcg9DmTil2scehAZmTxSoynvaONbBTpjHU90gjYNAi6SuEZK/jpiMTbL+RLgoZ6moyB4WvGJ3T2iv/eRbrkp0jdhDxkjZd9KdMEK/yEhtmWD6VEIHeYAGTABuO1D+IgckHhIOMOwvtEl0PMAuRWRQEXq6zEQMBfcRxE= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [24.63.168.75] by web32815.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:43:05 PST Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 07:43:05 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:43:13 - Huh? Look in the ashtray... The one in my '83 never worked but rather than troubleshooting it I wired one up in the panel above the passenger's feet, works slick and is sufficiently out of the way. -Curt '85 190D Dory 234kmi '83 240D Hammie 253kmi Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 23:24:53 -0700 From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Cigarette Lighter? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Okay, why didn't anyone tell me there's no cigarette lighter in these things? this means no cel phone plug. Brian 83 240D - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 26 15:46:15 2006 Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.65]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FDO6B-0005et-Mf for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 15:46:15 + DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=iB9MjpFuNZoNawX8fJImMpi4SQZLLHlPujB5lzY08l+BiF04l2b5z3V2j/68jzHo; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [65.110.128.59] (helo=[192.168.2.74]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FDO69-0006v2-Uq for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:46:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:46:12 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-ELNK-Trace: b3baf86f04a51c2f0f36c4a2948c83129ef193a6bfc3dd48f473aceedb5e4676223d76ebe8d586d2790fad917fc14d6b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 65.110.128.59 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes
Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe
The best tank out of my 190D 2.2l so far is around 34mpg but its My wife's X 190D 2.2 5spd once returned 41mpg and regularly got 35mpg and up. So why am I hoping for better out of our to-be 2.5 5spd? Call me a dreamer, I guess! -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe
On Feb 26, 2006, at 11:12 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: So why am I hoping for better out of our to-be 2.5 5spd? Call me a dreamer, I guess! -- Jim Because you're unemployed at present. I Hope you win the lottery and never need another job. Nothing wrong wishful thinking though. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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To answer your question: I suppose I'll drive with the ripped boot as long as I can. I'm hoping that will be a bit longer than this trip. No noises yet. I packed both ripped boots (trying to get it up toward the joint) with grease, then wrapped them to try and keep as much grease in the vicinity as possible. I was told by my brother that I'm wasting my time - the grease will all just fly out, and I should just leave it alone and drive (so less dirt would be attracted), but I thought the more grease placed in there, the better. Thoughts? I will try to be creative later, once home. I am thinking of sewing them up with fishing line, then gluing the seam with gorilla glue. I know - generic - but may as well shoot for the money savings. Brian 83 240D From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 12:36:57 -0500 On Feb 24, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Brian Chase wrote: We got, if I recall, some 34.6 MPG over some hilly terrain, 34.6mpg? You should have no problem selling it on e-bay with that kind of fuel mileage. Are you sure you figgered that correctly? How far are you planning to go with the ripped boot? Mine lasted several thousand miles. The CV-joint is shot but it still moves the car at highway speeds. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe
I will try to be creative later, once home. I am thinking of sewing them up with fishing line, then gluing the seam with gorilla glue. I know - generic - but may as well shoot for the money savings. 1) You can buy split boots at auto parts stores for about $15/boot, they ought to last at least as well as chewing-gum measures. 2) Shoe Goo, not Gorilla glue. It's flexible. 3) $12 used axle from the U-Pull. Might last the life of the car. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe
On Feb 25, 2006, at 1:23 AM, Brian Chase wrote: AAaak. I found out it was 32.6 MPG. I'm still pretty happy - especially considering the terrain and the luggage/tools/supplies. Brian Still very good mpg. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe
On Feb 25, 2006, at 2:05 AM, Brian Chase wrote: I will try to be creative later, once home. I am thinking of sewing them up with fishing line, then gluing the seam with gorilla glue. I know - generic - but may as well shoot for the money savings. Brian 83 240D Quick Boots work OK + no need to pull the axle if you go that way. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe
On Feb 24, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Brian Chase wrote: We got, if I recall, some 34.6 MPG over some hilly terrain, 34.6mpg? You should have no problem selling it on e-bay with that kind of fuel mileage. Are you sure you figgered that correctly? How far are you planning to go with the ripped boot? Mine lasted several thousand miles. The CV-joint is shot but it still moves the car at highway speeds. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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So, remind me - What sort of car is this? My 76 300D doesn't do nearly that well. I was getting about 29 MPG on the highway last summer and that is calculated on the imperial gallon which is of course 20% bigger than the US gallon. Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Berryman Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 9:37 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hello from Santa Fe On Feb 24, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Brian Chase wrote: We got, if I recall, some 34.6 MPG over some hilly terrain, 34.6mpg? You should have no problem selling it on e-bay with that kind of fuel mileage. Are you sure you figgered that correctly? How far are you planning to go with the ripped boot? Mine lasted several thousand miles. The CV-joint is shot but it still moves the car at highway speeds. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
