Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I saw my groundhog this morning.  He seems to be about 10 percent less
skittish.  Maybe it's the strawberries I've left out for him as a bribe to
NOT eat any more okra.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:53 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Or, try having 40 acres of apples with everything smaller than 1" limbs
> stripped from the ground up to 6-7' from the ground.  (Keep  in mind that
> the norm for apple production is trees no more than 7-8' tall)   DNR
> brainchild comes out and sez,"How can you prove that it was deer that did
> this?"  he is shown the deer hair on the barb wire fences, and sez, "that
> does not prove anything."DNR brainchild refused to give any extra deer
> tags to reduce the herds of 50-75 field rats within1/4 mile.
>
> Field rats.  300 lb field rats.  They spread disease everywhere.  CWD,
> Deer ticks, wood ticks, Lone star ticks, Lyme, and other tick borne or
> mosquito borne diseases.
>
> BTW, in WI, the DNR writes checks annually to growers for damages.  One
> guy I talked to got around $20k a year.   That would help a bit.
>
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>> August 27, 2017 at 6:08 PM
>>
>>
>> Try growing watermelons, and having 200lb varmints walk down a row in the
>> melon patch, kicking a hole in a melon and taking a sip, kicking a hole in
>> the next melon and taking a sip...and you can't just shoot a deer for
>> vandalizing your garden.
>> Seeing the carnage in my grandparents' garden when I was about 5 years
>> old left an impression on me. Even at that age I knew what a horrible waste
>> it was, to the point I can still close my eyes and visualize those dark
>> green melons with hoof prints in them today.
>>
>> Mitch
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What about looney ticks?

-D


> On Sep 18, 2017, at 10:53 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Or, try having 40 acres of apples with everything smaller than 1" limbs 
> stripped from the ground up to 6-7' from the ground.  (Keep  in mind that the 
> norm for apple production is trees no more than 7-8' tall)   DNR brainchild 
> comes out and sez,"How can you prove that it was deer that did this?"  he is 
> shown the deer hair on the barb wire fences, and sez, "that does not prove 
> anything."DNR brainchild refused to give any extra deer tags to reduce 
> the herds of 50-75 field rats within1/4 mile.
> 
> Field rats.  300 lb field rats.  They spread disease everywhere.  CWD, Deer 
> ticks, wood ticks, Lone star ticks, Lyme, and other tick borne or mosquito 
> borne diseases.
> 
> BTW, in WI, the DNR writes checks annually to growers for damages.  One guy I 
> talked to got around $20k a year.   That would help a bit.
> 
>> Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>> August 27, 2017 at 6:08 PM
>> 
>> 
>> Try growing watermelons, and having 200lb varmints walk down a row in the 
>> melon patch, kicking a hole in a melon and taking a sip, kicking a hole in 
>> the next melon and taking a sip...and you can't just shoot a deer for 
>> vandalizing your garden.
>> Seeing the carnage in my grandparents' garden when I was about 5 years old 
>> left an impression on me. Even at that age I knew what a horrible waste it 
>> was, to the point I can still close my eyes and visualize those dark green 
>> melons with hoof prints in them today.
>> 
>> Mitch
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Huh. Curleys mail getting through
Everyone else...
Not so much...
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Or, try having 40 acres of apples with everything smaller than 1" limbs 
stripped from the ground up to 6-7' from the ground.  (Keep  in mind 
that the norm for apple production is trees no more than 7-8' tall)   
DNR brainchild comes out and sez,"How can you prove that it was deer 
that did this?"  he is shown the deer hair on the barb wire fences, and 
sez, "that does not prove anything."DNR brainchild refused to give 
any extra deer tags to reduce the herds of 50-75 field rats within1/4 mile.


Field rats.  300 lb field rats.  They spread disease everywhere.  CWD, 
Deer ticks, wood ticks, Lone star ticks, Lyme, and other tick borne or 
mosquito borne diseases.


BTW, in WI, the DNR writes checks annually to growers for damages.  One 
guy I talked to got around $20k a year.   That would help a bit.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
August 27, 2017 at 6:08 PM


Try growing watermelons, and having 200lb varmints walk down a row in 
the melon patch, kicking a hole in a melon and taking a sip, kicking a 
hole in the next melon and taking a sip...and you can't just shoot a 
deer for vandalizing your garden.
Seeing the carnage in my grandparents' garden when I was about 5 years 
old left an impression on me. Even at that age I knew what a horrible 
waste it was, to the point I can still close my eyes and visualize 
those dark green melons with hoof prints in them today.


Mitch


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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 23:39:46 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
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> You first got to determine if he's a Republican or Democratic groundhog
> since everything in the Washington area is either Republican or
> Democratic. If he's a Republican groundhog, you can catch him, take him
> out in the woods somewhere, and he'll make his own living in the wild.
> But if he's a Democratic groundhog you might as well resign yourself to
> feeding him the rest of his life.

Wonderful, Gerry!


(Sorry, Dan. couldn't help myself.)

No apology needed.


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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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Young daughters cat was death on blue jays. When he went outside they would 
swoop and peck at him. He'd stop and roll over on his back. When the blue jays 
swooped he would grab at them and snag them once in a while. Then he would 
bring the dead jay into the house and lay it at my wifes feet. This did not 
make her happy, but we never figured out how to stop him. 
When the hedge or plants around the back yard produced berries, the jays would 
eat them and stagger around like a drunk, but I never remember the cat catching 
any of them then for some reason.
Gerry
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> Like my childhood tomcat.  He had a crow that followed him around everywhere 
> he went. We suspected that Purrkins had messed with the crow or its nest at 
> one time.  We referred to it as the "bitch bird", as it would shadow him from 
> high in the trees, cawing and making noises the whole time.  You always knew 
> where Purrkins was on the property (we had an acre of lawn and 7 acres of 
> woods adjacent to the house) because you could see or hear the bitch bird 
> overhead.
> 
> When Purrkins would walk from the house to the back edge of the property, it 
> was about 75 yards of open lawn. The bird would swoop at him, staying just 
> high enough to be out of reach.  Purrkins would jump up and swat at the bird 
> on occasion, seemingly often enough to make it realize he could knock it out 
> of the air if it dared to come close enough.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Aug 28, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > He's taunting you. 
> > 
> > Like the squirrel who used to sit on the trash can and twitch his tail at 
> > the dog until I let him out to chase the squirrel. That SQ knew exactly how 
> > close he could let the dog get before running to the woods and beating the 
> > dog to the nearest tree by 3'. 
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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On 28/08/2017 2:09 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

We were always believers in letting the wild stuff be wild - that way it was 
never worried about coming around.  We never shot or trapped anything around 
there but moles, and that was only when they tore up the yard.  I have always 
believed that if something such as deer didn't shoot at me, I didn't shoot at 
them.  Sort of a reciprocal agreement, you might say. There was always plenty 
of stuff for humans and wildlife both around the homestead, I can't recall a 
time when an animal was a nuisance.

Crows are pretty cool birds and amazingly smart.  And for that matter I sort of 
enjoyed the bird, as it made it easy to keep tabs on Purrkins.

-D


On Aug 28, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
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I am amazed that you did not dispatch that crow.

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

We were always believers in letting the wild stuff be wild - that way it was 
never worried about coming around.  We never shot or trapped anything around 
there but moles, and that was only when they tore up the yard.  I have always 
believed that if something such as deer didn't shoot at me, I didn't shoot at 
them.  Sort of a reciprocal agreement, you might say. There was always plenty 
of stuff for humans and wildlife both around the homestead, I can't recall a 
time when an animal was a nuisance.

Crows are pretty cool birds and amazingly smart.  And for that matter I sort of 
enjoyed the bird, as it made it easy to keep tabs on Purrkins.

-D

> On Aug 28, 2017, at 2:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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> 
> I am amazed that you did not dispatch that crow.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The back yard is fenced so no neighbors can get in.

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> On 28/08/2017 1:33 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Like my childhood tomcat.  He had a crow that followed him around
>> everywhere he went. We suspected that Purrkins had messed with the crow or
>> its nest at one time.  We referred to it as the "bitch bird", as it would
>> shadow him from high in the trees, cawing and making noises the whole
>> time.  You always knew where Purrkins was on the property (we had an acre
>> of lawn and 7 acres of woods adjacent to the house) because you could see
>> or hear the bitch bird overhead.
>>
>> When Purrkins would walk from the house to the back edge of the property,
>> it was about 75 yards of open lawn. The bird would swoop at him, staying
>> just high enough to be out of reach.  Purrkins would jump up and swat at
>> the bird on occasion, seemingly often enough to make it realize he could
>> knock it out of the air if it dared to come close enough.
>>
>> -D
>>
>
> I am amazed that you did not dispatch that crow.
>
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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On 28/08/2017 1:33 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Like my childhood tomcat.  He had a crow that followed him around everywhere he went. We 
suspected that Purrkins had messed with the crow or its nest at one time.  We referred to 
it as the "bitch bird", as it would shadow him from high in the trees, cawing 
and making noises the whole time.  You always knew where Purrkins was on the property (we 
had an acre of lawn and 7 acres of woods adjacent to the house) because you could see or 
hear the bitch bird overhead.

When Purrkins would walk from the house to the back edge of the property, it 
was about 75 yards of open lawn. The bird would swoop at him, staying just high 
enough to be out of reach.  Purrkins would jump up and swat at the bird on 
occasion, seemingly often enough to make it realize he could knock it out of 
the air if it dared to come close enough.

-D


I am amazed that you did not dispatch that crow.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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Like my childhood tomcat.  He had a crow that followed him around everywhere he 
went. We suspected that Purrkins had messed with the crow or its nest at one 
time.  We referred to it as the "bitch bird", as it would shadow him from high 
in the trees, cawing and making noises the whole time.  You always knew where 
Purrkins was on the property (we had an acre of lawn and 7 acres of woods 
adjacent to the house) because you could see or hear the bitch bird overhead.

When Purrkins would walk from the house to the back edge of the property, it 
was about 75 yards of open lawn. The bird would swoop at him, staying just high 
enough to be out of reach.  Purrkins would jump up and swat at the bird on 
occasion, seemingly often enough to make it realize he could knock it out of 
the air if it dared to come close enough.

-D

> On Aug 28, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> He's taunting you. 
> 
> Like the squirrel who used to sit on the trash can and twitch his tail at the 
> dog until I let him out to chase the squirrel. That SQ knew exactly how close 
> he could let the dog get before running to the woods and beating the dog to 
> the nearest tree by 3'. 
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

This morning, I found the strawberry had been removed from the trap and set
just in front of it.  My groundhog must belong to Mensa.



That sounds more like your neighbor is messing with you.

Maybe the neighbor does not like traps.

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah, I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On August 28, 2017 at 11:41 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > This morning, I found the strawberry had been removed from the trap and
> set
> > just in front of it.  My groundhog must belong to Mensa.
>
> He's taunting you.
>
> Like the squirrel who used to sit on the trash can and twitch his tail at
> the dog until I let him out to chase the squirrel. That SQ knew exactly how
> close he could let the dog get before running to the woods and beating the
> dog to the nearest tree by 3'.
>
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 28, 2017 at 11:41 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
> This morning, I found the strawberry had been removed from the trap and set
> just in front of it.  My groundhog must belong to Mensa.

He's taunting you. 

Like the squirrel who used to sit on the trash can and twitch his tail at the 
dog until I let him out to chase the squirrel. That SQ knew exactly how close 
he could let the dog get before running to the woods and beating the dog to the 
nearest tree by 3'. 

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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You're the one who asked for a recipe - - that doesn't sound non-lethal.
I guess he doesn't like strawberries. Try okra leaves or pods.

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 10:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I could be wrong, but none of those solutions sounded particularly
> non-lethal.
>
> This morning, I found the strawberry had been removed from the trap and set
> just in front of it.  My groundhog must belong to Mensa.
>
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:38 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > When I lived in WI there were still a number of mink ranchers around the
> > plant where I worked. They had a wooden box on the back of a four wheeler
> > with the exhaust plumbed through it that they rode around the property.
> > When it was time to "harvest" the mink, they drove up to the pens, took
> > them out one at a time, put them in the box and revved the engine for a
> > minute or two.
> >
> > Open the box, remove the now deceased mink, and move on to the next
> one...
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Aug 27, 2017, at 10:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Once in the trap, assuming you've got access to a car with a gasoline
> > engine:  Put trap with animal in to a large garbage bag.  Tie garbage bag
> > over the end of the exhaust pipe.  Rip a small hole at other end of
> garbage
> > bag.  Start engine, listen to radio for ten minutes or more.  Shut off
> > engine, empty trap into garbage bag, close up bag and put bag in
> dumpster.
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[OK Don via Mercedes]

I don't think he'll taste good after that treatment - - hence the trashcan
full of water recommendation I made earlier.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Once in the trap, assuming you've got access to a car with a gasoline
> engine:  Put trap with animal in to a large garbage bag.  Tie garbage bag
> over the end of the exhaust pipe.  Rip a small hole at other end of garbage
> bag.  Start engine, listen to radio for ten minutes or more.  Shut off
> engine, empty trap into garbage bag, close up bag and put bag in dumpster.
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> '95 E300
>
> On August 27, 2017 9:08:28 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> > > Andrew wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > ‎How far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?
> >
> >> > Jim wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Coupla feet straight down ought to do it.
> >
> >
> >> Andrew wrote:
> >
> >> He's very cute so those are nonstarters.
> >
> >Did you not say "He ate my tomatoes!  This is war!"  Be a man and
> >follow through with your threat.
> >
> >Why take the problem to someone else - shoot him, drown him, hang
> >him by the neck as a traitor.  End the problem.  Or leave him
> >alone and "be one with nature" as he tears down entire tomato
> >plants to eat one bite from each tomato.
> >
> >Survival of the strong.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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Max wrote:
> ...Tie garbage bag over the end of the exhaust pipe.

Oh - terrible memory.  Me doing similar with kitty at Drennan
ElPasoCounty in front of my young son.  Not in garbage bag, but I
mistakenly ran over his kitty.  I go cry now.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I could be wrong, but none of those solutions sounded particularly
non-lethal.

This morning, I found the strawberry had been removed from the trap and set
just in front of it.  My groundhog must belong to Mensa.

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:38 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> When I lived in WI there were still a number of mink ranchers around the
> plant where I worked. They had a wooden box on the back of a four wheeler
> with the exhaust plumbed through it that they rode around the property.
> When it was time to "harvest" the mink, they drove up to the pens, took
> them out one at a time, put them in the box and revved the engine for a
> minute or two.
>
> Open the box, remove the now deceased mink, and move on to the next one...
>
> -D
>
> > On Aug 27, 2017, at 10:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Once in the trap, assuming you've got access to a car with a gasoline
> engine:  Put trap with animal in to a large garbage bag.  Tie garbage bag
> over the end of the exhaust pipe.  Rip a small hole at other end of garbage
> bag.  Start engine, listen to radio for ten minutes or more.  Shut off
> engine, empty trap into garbage bag, close up bag and put bag in dumpster.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

When I lived in WI there were still a number of mink ranchers around the plant 
where I worked. They had a wooden box on the back of a four wheeler with the 
exhaust plumbed through it that they rode around the property. When it was time 
to "harvest" the mink, they drove up to the pens, took them out one at a time, 
put them in the box and revved the engine for a minute or two.

Open the box, remove the now deceased mink, and move on to the next one...

-D

> On Aug 27, 2017, at 10:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Once in the trap, assuming you've got access to a car with a gasoline engine: 
>  Put trap with animal in to a large garbage bag.  Tie garbage bag over the 
> end of the exhaust pipe.  Rip a small hole at other end of garbage bag.  
> Start engine, listen to radio for ten minutes or more.  Shut off engine, 
> empty trap into garbage bag, close up bag and put bag in dumpster.
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Roast marmot!
Aren't you supposed to skin em before you cook em?
Mitch
> On August 27, 2017 at 10:42 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Once in the trap, assuming you've got access to a car with a gasoline engine: 
>  Put trap with animal in to a large garbage bag.  Tie garbage bag over the 
> end of the exhaust pipe.  Rip a small hole at other end of garbage bag.  
> Start engine, listen to radio for ten minutes or more.  Shut off engine, 
> empty trap into garbage bag, close up bag and put bag in dumpster.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On August 27, 2017 9:08:28 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> >> > > Andrew wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > ‎How far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?
> >
> >> > Jim wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Coupla feet straight down ought to do it.
> >
> >
> >> Andrew wrote:
> >
> >> He's very cute so those are nonstarters.
> >
> >Did you not say "He ate my tomatoes!  This is war!"  Be a man and
> >follow through with your threat.
> >
> >Why take the problem to someone else - shoot him, drown him, hang
> >him by the neck as a traitor.  End the problem.  Or leave him
> >alone and "be one with nature" as he tears down entire tomato
> >plants to eat one bite from each tomato.
> >
> >Survival of the strong.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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You first got to determine if he's a Republican or Democratic groundhog since 
everything in the Washington area is either Republican or Democratic.
If he's a Republican groundhog, you can catch him, take him out in the woods 
somewhere, and he'll make his own living in the wild.
But if he's a Democratic groundhog you might as well resign yourself to feeding 
him the rest of his life. 
(Sorry, Dan. couldn't help myself.)
~~~
Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> He's like a kid at a buffet.  Eats half of something and moves along the
> line.  He may be too wily for my trap, however.
> 
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 5:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> > To the nearest trash can full of water - drown him, dress and skin him,
> > then apply your choice of recipes.
> > Don't think of him as cute, think of him as okra - - -
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > No, but if I did it would be Woody, as the diminutive for wood chuck.
> > >
> > > So I baited the trap with a strawberry.  In anticipation of success, how
> > > far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 8:48 AM, MG via Mercedes 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well OK got to agree with that. Along with andouille, frogs legs, gator
> > > > tail (raw or cooked depending on the type) as well as other delectable
> > > > items.
> > > >
> > > > MG
> > > >
> > > > Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Okra ain't no good fer nuttin 'cep fer making GUMBO!
> > > >>
> > > >> Its even worse than green slime (avocado)
> > > >>
> > > >> But if ya make GUMBO, ya gotta have okra!
> > > >>
> > > >> MG via Mercedes 
> > > >>> August 24, 2017 at 6:55 PM
> > > >>> That's the way I feel about it. I just eat a spoon or so to keep Her
> > > >>> happy.
> > > >>>
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2017 19:33:30 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> (Hint: start with the fence-breakers.)

Good hint.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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Once in the trap, assuming you've got access to a car with a gasoline engine:  
Put trap with animal in to a large garbage bag.  Tie garbage bag over the end 
of the exhaust pipe.  Rip a small hole at other end of garbage bag.  Start 
engine, listen to radio for ten minutes or more.  Shut off engine, empty trap 
into garbage bag, close up bag and put bag in dumpster.
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On August 27, 2017 9:08:28 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes  
wrote:
>> > > Andrew wrote:
>> > >
>> > > ‎How far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?
>
>> > Jim wrote:
>> >
>> > Coupla feet straight down ought to do it.
>
>
>> Andrew wrote:
>
>> He's very cute so those are nonstarters.
>
>Did you not say "He ate my tomatoes!  This is war!"  Be a man and
>follow through with your threat.
>
>Why take the problem to someone else - shoot him, drown him, hang
>him by the neck as a traitor.  End the problem.  Or leave him
>alone and "be one with nature" as he tears down entire tomato
>plants to eat one bite from each tomato.
>
>Survival of the strong.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The day the cows got into my mother's garden she was in tears.  Highly
unusual state for her, and there weren't _nobody_ laughing that day.  We
did get revenge on the cows eventually, one at a time...  (Hint: start with
the fence-breakers.)

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I have c. 100 tomato plants so it's not as if I'm going to starve.  I just
find the whole situation comical.

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 9:08 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > > > Andrew wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ‎How far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?
>
> > > Jim wrote:
> > >
> > > Coupla feet straight down ought to do it.
>
>
> > Andrew wrote:
>
> > He's very cute so those are nonstarters.
>
> Did you not say "He ate my tomatoes!  This is war!"  Be a man and
> follow through with your threat.
>
> Why take the problem to someone else - shoot him, drown him, hang
> him by the neck as a traitor.  End the problem.  Or leave him
> alone and "be one with nature" as he tears down entire tomato
> plants to eat one bite from each tomato.
>
> Survival of the strong.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > > Andrew wrote:
> > >
> > > ‎How far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?

> > Jim wrote:
> >
> > Coupla feet straight down ought to do it.


> Andrew wrote:

> He's very cute so those are nonstarters.

Did you not say "He ate my tomatoes!  This is war!"  Be a man and
follow through with your threat.

Why take the problem to someone else - shoot him, drown him, hang
him by the neck as a traitor.  End the problem.  Or leave him
alone and "be one with nature" as he tears down entire tomato
plants to eat one bite from each tomato.

Survival of the strong.

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah, great suggestions but I still have to catch him.

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 7:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On August 27, 2017 at 10:59 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >  In anticipation of success, how
> > far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?
>
> How far is the middle of Woodrow Wilson Memorial Bridge?
> Just hope he swims to the Andrew-free side of the river.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 27, 2017 at 10:59 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>  In anticipation of success, how
> far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?

How far is the middle of Woodrow Wilson Memorial Bridge?
Just hope he swims to the Andrew-free side of the river. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 27, 2017 at 6:23 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> He's like a kid at a buffet.  Eats half of something and moves along the
> line.  


Try growing watermelons, and having 200lb varmints walk down a row in the melon 
patch, kicking a hole in a melon and taking a sip, kicking a hole in the next 
melon and taking a sip...and you can't just shoot a deer for vandalizing your 
garden.  
Seeing the carnage in my grandparents' garden when I was about 5 years old left 
an impression on me. Even at that age I knew what a horrible waste it was, to 
the point I can still close my eyes and visualize those dark green melons with 
hoof prints in them today. 

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He's like a kid at a buffet.  Eats half of something and moves along the
line.  He may be too wily for my trap, however.

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 5:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> To the nearest trash can full of water - drown him, dress and skin him,
> then apply your choice of recipes.
> Don't think of him as cute, think of him as okra - - -
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > No, but if I did it would be Woody, as the diminutive for wood chuck.
> >
> > So I baited the trap with a strawberry.  In anticipation of success, how
> > far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 8:48 AM, MG via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Well OK got to agree with that. Along with andouille, frogs legs, gator
> > > tail (raw or cooked depending on the type) as well as other delectable
> > > items.
> > >
> > > MG
> > >
> > > Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> > >
> > >> Okra ain't no good fer nuttin 'cep fer making GUMBO!
> > >>
> > >> Its even worse than green slime (avocado)
> > >>
> > >> But if ya make GUMBO, ya gotta have okra!
> > >>
> > >> MG via Mercedes 
> > >>> August 24, 2017 at 6:55 PM
> > >>> That's the way I feel about it. I just eat a spoon or so to keep Her
> > >>> happy.
> > >>>
> > >>> MG
> > >>>
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>
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> for themselves."
>
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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To the nearest trash can full of water - drown him, dress and skin him,
then apply your choice of recipes.
Don't think of him as cute, think of him as okra - - -

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> No, but if I did it would be Woody, as the diminutive for wood chuck.
>
> So I baited the trap with a strawberry.  In anticipation of success, how
> far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 8:48 AM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > Well OK got to agree with that. Along with andouille, frogs legs, gator
> > tail (raw or cooked depending on the type) as well as other delectable
> > items.
> >
> > MG
> >
> > Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Okra ain't no good fer nuttin 'cep fer making GUMBO!
> >>
> >> Its even worse than green slime (avocado)
> >>
> >> But if ya make GUMBO, ya gotta have okra!
> >>
> >> MG via Mercedes 
> >>> August 24, 2017 at 6:55 PM
> >>> That's the way I feel about it. I just eat a spoon or so to keep Her
> >>> happy.
> >>>
> >>> MG
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He's very cute so those are nonstarters.

On Aug 27, 2017 3:39 PM, "Jim Cathey via Mercedes" 
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> >
> > ‎How far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?
>
>
> Coupla feet straight down ought to do it.
>
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> ‎How far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?


Coupla feet straight down ought to do it.

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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Andrew asks:

>‎How far do I need to go to drive before >releasing him?

To a municipality where is legal to discharge a firearm. 

Then shoot him.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I don't think so. He'd gnaw his way out by then.

On Aug 27, 2017 11:27 AM, "Dwight Giles"  wrote:

West Virginia?

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Aug 27, 2017 11:21 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> No, but if I did it would be Woody, as the diminutive for wood chuck.
>
> So I baited the trap with a strawberry.  In anticipation of success, how
> far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 8:48 AM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > Well OK got to agree with that. Along with andouille, frogs legs, gator
> > tail (raw or cooked depending on the type) as well as other delectable
> > items.
> >
> > MG
> >
> > Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> Okra ain't no good fer nuttin 'cep fer making GUMBO!
> >>
> >> Its even worse than green slime (avocado)
> >>
> >> But if ya make GUMBO, ya gotta have okra!
> >>
> >> MG via Mercedes 
> >>> August 24, 2017 at 6:55 PM
> >>> That's the way I feel about it. I just eat a spoon or so to keep Her
> >>> happy.
> >>>
> >>> MG
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

No, but if I did it would be Woody, as the diminutive for wood chuck.

So I baited the trap with a strawberry.  In anticipation of success, how
far do I need to go to drive before releasing him?

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 8:48 AM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Well OK got to agree with that. Along with andouille, frogs legs, gator
> tail (raw or cooked depending on the type) as well as other delectable
> items.
>
> MG
>
> Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Okra ain't no good fer nuttin 'cep fer making GUMBO!
>>
>> Its even worse than green slime (avocado)
>>
>> But if ya make GUMBO, ya gotta have okra!
>>
>> MG via Mercedes 
>>> August 24, 2017 at 6:55 PM
>>> That's the way I feel about it. I just eat a spoon or so to keep Her
>>> happy.
>>>
>>> MG
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[MG via Mercedes]

Well OK got to agree with that. Along with andouille, frogs legs, 
gator tail (raw or cooked depending on the type) as well as other 
delectable items.


MG

Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Okra ain't no good fer nuttin 'cep fer making GUMBO!

Its even worse than green slime (avocado)

But if ya make GUMBO, ya gotta have okra!


MG via Mercedes 
August 24, 2017 at 6:55 PM
That's the way I feel about it. I just eat a spoon or so to keep Her 
happy.


MG



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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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How do you know it was him (have you named him yet?) . . .

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> He's surprisingly agile for such a behemoth.
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:15 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Hahahha and make sure the drone has full camera, so you can YouTube
> the
> > shootdown...
> >
> > I feel your pain Andrew, over the loss of ripe veggies... Time for a
> > Hge fence... ;))
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > On August 26, 2017 at 10:56 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My groundhog just ate a couple of myripe heirloom tomatoes. This
> means
> > > war.
> > > >
> > > >  I left him a strawberry to see if that pleases his palate.  If so,
> > that
> > > > will be my bait when I set the Havahart trap.
> > >
> > > Get a drone with 10lb payload capacity and see how close to the White
> > > House you can get before somebody shoots him down.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He's surprisingly agile for such a behemoth.

On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 12:15 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

> Hahahha and make sure the drone has full camera, so you can YouTube the
> shootdown...
>
> I feel your pain Andrew, over the loss of ripe veggies... Time for a
> Hge fence... ;))
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > > On August 26, 2017 at 10:56 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > My groundhog just ate a couple of myripe heirloom tomatoes. This means
> > war.
> > >
> > >  I left him a strawberry to see if that pleases his palate.  If so,
> that
> > > will be my bait when I set the Havahart trap.
> >
> > Get a drone with 10lb payload capacity and see how close to the White
> > House you can get before somebody shoots him down.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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Hahahha and make sure the drone has full camera, so you can YouTube the
shootdown...

I feel your pain Andrew, over the loss of ripe veggies... Time for a
Hge fence... ;))

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> > On August 26, 2017 at 10:56 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > My groundhog just ate a couple of myripe heirloom tomatoes. This means
> war.
> >
> >  I left him a strawberry to see if that pleases his palate.  If so, that
> > will be my bait when I set the Havahart trap.
>
> Get a drone with 10lb payload capacity and see how close to the White
> House you can get before somebody shoots him down.
>
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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> On August 26, 2017 at 10:56 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> My groundhog just ate a couple of myripe heirloom tomatoes. This means war.
> 
>  I left him a strawberry to see if that pleases his palate.  If so, that
> will be my bait when I set the Havahart trap.

Get a drone with 10lb payload capacity and see how close to the White House you 
can get before somebody shoots him down. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My groundhog just ate a couple of myripe heirloom tomatoes. This means war.

 I left him a strawberry to see if that pleases his palate.  If so, that
will be my bait when I set the Havahart trap.

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> Haven't tried that, yet...
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> On August 26, 2017 1:16:36 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> >How's yer panfried puxatawney Phil?
> >
> >> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
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> >> Everyone who has tried my pan fried okra loves it.
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Haven't tried that, yet...
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On August 26, 2017 1:16:36 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>How's yer panfried puxatawney Phil?
>
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> August 25, 2017 at 6:43 PM
>> Everyone who has tried my pan fried okra loves it.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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How's yer panfried puxatawney Phil?


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
August 25, 2017 at 6:43 PM
Everyone who has tried my pan fried okra loves it.



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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Okra ain't no good fer nuttin 'cep fer making GUMBO!

Its even worse than green slime (avocado)

But if ya make GUMBO, ya gotta have okra!


MG via Mercedes 
August 24, 2017 at 6:55 PM
That's the way I feel about it. I just eat a spoon or so to keep Her 
happy.


MG



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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I rather like fried okra, bet it'd be even better fried in lard...
Curt

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  On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Max Dillon via 
Mercedes wrote:   Everyone who has tried my pan fried 
okra loves it.
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On August 25, 2017 7:32:33 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Breaded and deep fat fried okra is not too bad although okra is an
>acquired taste. Even my childhood dog Charlie often had to eat boiled
>okra 2 or 3 times before he could keep it down, so there wasn't much
>use feeding it to him under the table instead of gagging it down
>myself.
>
>Okra is a low carb, high fiber vegetable which may be the reason health
>food addicts have a sad look on their faces.
>Gerry
>
>> I'll have to have June try that. She loves the stuff.
>> MG
>> 
>> OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> > We placed a chicken wire cage around our okra planting this year to
>keep
>> > the deer out.
>> > My wife chops up the okra, places it in a frying pan, turns heat to
>medium,
>> > covers the pan for awhile to steam the okra, then removes the cover
>and
>> > dries it out. Great tasting, non-slimy veggie!
>> > 
>> > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem. 
>What kind
>> >> of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this
>world.  No
>> >> to mention weird taste in vegetables.
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On August 25, 2017 7:32:33 PM EDT, archer75--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Breaded and deep fat fried okra is not too bad although okra is an
>acquired taste. Even my childhood dog Charlie often had to eat boiled
>okra 2 or 3 times before he could keep it down, so there wasn't much
>use feeding it to him under the table instead of gagging it down
>myself.
>
>Okra is a low carb, high fiber vegetable which may be the reason health
>food addicts have a sad look on their faces.
>Gerry
>
>> I'll have to have June try that. She loves the stuff.
>> MG
>> 
>> OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>> > We placed a chicken wire cage around our okra planting this year to
>keep
>> > the deer out.
>> > My wife chops up the okra, places it in a frying pan, turns heat to
>medium,
>> > covers the pan for awhile to steam the okra, then removes the cover
>and
>> > dries it out. Great tasting, non-slimy veggie!
>> > 
>> > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem. 
>What kind
>> >> of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this
>world.  No
>> >> to mention weird taste in vegetables.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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Breaded and deep fat fried okra is not too bad although okra is an acquired 
taste. Even my childhood dog Charlie often had to eat boiled okra 2 or 3 times 
before he could keep it down, so there wasn't much use feeding it to him under 
the table instead of gagging it down myself.

Okra is a low carb, high fiber vegetable which may be the reason health food 
addicts have a sad look on their faces.
Gerry

> I'll have to have June try that. She loves the stuff.
> MG
> 
> OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > We placed a chicken wire cage around our okra planting this year to keep
> > the deer out.
> > My wife chops up the okra, places it in a frying pan, turns heat to medium,
> > covers the pan for awhile to steam the okra, then removes the cover and
> > dries it out. Great tasting, non-slimy veggie!
> > 
> > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind
> >> of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
> >> to mention weird taste in vegetables.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Sounds like a good plan, soak the meat overnight in milk to remove some of the 
gamey taste. Dredge in flour and pan fry before you add to the stew for better 
flavor.
I don't think it'll be all that tough though, they don't do a whole lot of 
running really. Squirrel isn't that tough for instance and they move around a 
lot more.Squirrel is kind of like chicken, I'd expect groundhog to be similar. 
As I understand it the worst part is dealing with a thick layer of fat under 
the skin.
Probably theres a bunch of YouTube videos on it...
-Curt



From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>To: Andrew Strasfogel 
via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>Cc: Randy Bennell 
<rbenn...@bennell.ca>Sent: Friday, August 25, 2017, 5:06:10 PM EDTSubject: Re: 
[MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe
On 25/08/2017 3:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Gladly - just waiting for a recipe.  All I have gotten from this list so
> far are excellent okra recipes, which I cannot attempt because the
> groundhog has EATEN ALL MY OKRA.
>
No problem.
Probably will be a bit tough so I would suggest a basic groundhog stew.
You may have to go out and buy some veggies to put in the pot with the 
meat if it has consumed the garden  but it is a good time of the year 
for farmers' markets to have fresh veggies at good prices so that should 
not slow you down too much.
Given your intentions,  I would suggest that you shoot it or trap it 
rather than poison it.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 25/08/2017 3:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Gladly - just waiting for a recipe.  All I have gotten from this list so
far are excellent okra recipes, which I cannot attempt because the
groundhog has EATEN ALL MY OKRA.


No problem.
Probably will be a bit tough so I would suggest a basic groundhog stew.
You may have to go out and buy some veggies to put in the pot with the 
meat if it has consumed the garden  but it is a good time of the year 
for farmers' markets to have fresh veggies at good prices so that should 
not slow you down too much.
Given your intentions,  I would suggest that you shoot it or trap it 
rather than poison it.


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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Gladly - just waiting for a recipe.  All I have gotten from this list so
far are excellent okra recipes, which I cannot attempt because the
groundhog has EATEN ALL MY OKRA.

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:05 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Which is why you need to eat him now - - -
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, and when he eats I don't!
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey he has to eat too!
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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>
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Which is why you need to eat him now - - -

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah, and when he eats I don't!
>
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Hey he has to eat too!
> >
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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Yeah, and when he eats I don't!

On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  wrote:

> Hey he has to eat too!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 24, 2017, at 4:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What
> kind
> > of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
> > to mention weird taste in vegetables.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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Hey he has to eat too!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 4:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind
> of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
> to mention weird taste in vegetables.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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I love the idea of pickled okra, Max. Can you share a recipe?

On Aug 25, 2017 3:17 AM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
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> I lv pickled okra, and I can whip up a pretty mean pan-fried okra with
> onions.  Funny how many natives of the low country don't like it.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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I lv pickled okra, and I can whip up a pretty mean pan-fried okra with 
onions.  Funny how many natives of the low country don't like it.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Toss with some olive oil and throw it in he toaster oven for 20 minutes.
Yeah!  Those ignorami don't know what they're missing.

This is for okra btw, not groundhog.

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> My new favorite okra preparation:  grilled. It gets a nice chewy texture
> and is not slimy. Excellent snack or veg with your meal (along with grilled
> shishito peppers). And of course in gumbo.
>
> --R
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> > On Aug 24, 2017, at 11:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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> > Itvmakes a great dry curry too, fried with onions.  Yum.  And I don't
> have
> > to share it with anyone.  :)
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

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My new favorite okra preparation:  grilled. It gets a nice chewy texture and is 
not slimy. Excellent snack or veg with your meal (along with grilled shishito 
peppers). And of course in gumbo. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 11:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Itvmakes a great dry curry too, fried with onions.  Yum.  And I don't have
> to share it with anyone.  :)

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Itvmakes a great dry curry too, fried with onions.  Yum.  And I don't have
to share it with anyone.  :)

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 7:55 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> That's the way I feel about it. I just eat a spoon or so to keep Her happy.
>
> MG
>
>
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Okra?  It did you a favor.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> On Aug 24, 2017, at 7:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> We placed a chicken wire cage around our okra planting this year to keep
>>> the deer out.
>>> My wife chops up the okra, places it in a frying pan, turns heat to
>>> medium,
>>> covers the pan for awhile to steam the okra, then removes the cover and
>>> dries it out. Great tasting, non-slimy veggie!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What
 kind
 of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.
 No
 to mention weird taste in vegetables.

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[MG via Mercedes]

That's the way I feel about it. I just eat a spoon or so to keep 
Her happy.


MG

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Okra?  It did you a favor.

-D


On Aug 24, 2017, at 7:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

We placed a chicken wire cage around our okra planting this year to keep
the deer out.
My wife chops up the okra, places it in a frying pan, turns heat to medium,
covers the pan for awhile to steam the okra, then removes the cover and
dries it out. Great tasting, non-slimy veggie!

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind
of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
to mention weird taste in vegetables.

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[MG via Mercedes]

I'll have to have June try that. She loves the stuff.

MG

OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

We placed a chicken wire cage around our okra planting this year to keep
the deer out.
My wife chops up the okra, places it in a frying pan, turns heat to medium,
covers the pan for awhile to steam the okra, then removes the cover and
dries it out. Great tasting, non-slimy veggie!

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind
of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
to mention weird taste in vegetables.

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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Okra?  It did you a favor.

-D

> On Aug 24, 2017, at 7:06 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> We placed a chicken wire cage around our okra planting this year to keep
> the deer out.
> My wife chops up the okra, places it in a frying pan, turns heat to medium,
> covers the pan for awhile to steam the okra, then removes the cover and
> dries it out. Great tasting, non-slimy veggie!
> 
> On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind
>> of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
>> to mention weird taste in vegetables.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[OK Don via Mercedes]

We placed a chicken wire cage around our okra planting this year to keep
the deer out.
My wife chops up the okra, places it in a frying pan, turns heat to medium,
covers the pan for awhile to steam the okra, then removes the cover and
dries it out. Great tasting, non-slimy veggie!

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind
> of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
> to mention weird taste in vegetables.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Bob and Ray - one of my favorite routines.  Thanks for sharing.

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
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> Step 1: catch a groundhog.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
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> Strasfogel via Mercedes
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> Subject: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe
>
> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What
> kind of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.
> No to mention weird taste in vegetables.
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Step 1: catch a groundhog.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind of 
creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No to 
mention weird taste in vegetables.


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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

*Here is a supplementary bulletin from the Office of Fluctuation Control,
Bureau of Edible Condiments, Soluble and Indigestible Fats and Glutinous
Derivatives, Washington, D.C.:*

Correction of Directive #943456201, issued a while back concerning the
fixed price of groundhog meat. In the directive above named, the quotation
on groundhog meat should read ‘ground hog meat.’

*Bob and Ray*, aka: Bob Elliott and Ray Goulding

A U.S. comedy team active from 1946 through the 1980s. Write If You Get Work
(1975).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOlI-9qNsiQ

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 4:01 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The good thing is it's only okra. Not much good for anything but animal
> food anyway. BTW if you are serious about growing that stuff you should
> probably water it better, it looks kind of wilted.
>
> The groundhog reminds me of when I was 14 or so and wanted a 22. Both
> parents, especially Mom were against it. I wore them down and got it,
> finally. Mom always complained when I took it out to the woods to practice.
> Then came the day a groundhog attacked her garden. I was sent up to my
> room, overlooking said garden with very firm orders to shoot that thing,
> from Mom. One shot later the groundhog was done for. I never heard another
> thing about going out to practice in the woods. Funny how things work.
>
> MG
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What
>> kind
>> of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
>> to mention weird taste in vegetables.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
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Re: [MBZ] I need a groundhog recipe

[MG via Mercedes]

The good thing is it's only okra. Not much good for anything but 
animal food anyway. BTW if you are serious about growing that 
stuff you should probably water it better, it looks kind of wilted.


The groundhog reminds me of when I was 14 or so and wanted a 22. 
Both parents, especially Mom were against it. I wore them down 
and got it, finally. Mom always complained when I took it out to 
the woods to practice. Then came the day a groundhog attacked her 
garden. I was sent up to my room, overlooking said garden with 
very firm orders to shoot that thing, from Mom. One shot later 
the groundhog was done for. I never heard another thing about 
going out to practice in the woods. Funny how things work.


MG

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

He attached my okra today and ate all the leaves from each stem.  What kind
of creature would do such a thing?  There is much EVIL in this world.  No
to mention weird taste in vegetables.







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