Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I would.

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Would you include a Kodiak as an AK brown bear?
> They are a nice brown color.
> And HUGE!
>
> RB
>
>
> On 05/06/2017 1:12 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> So would that suggest that in AK brown bear scat would also include
>> little bells and smell like pepper?
>>
>> On Jun 5, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> One thing about bears...environment has a huge influence on their size.
>>> In locations where they get a lot of salmon they tend to grow a lot larger.
>>> So the Alaskan Browns are really BIG even as compared to the Grizzlies that
>>> live in the lower 48! And even Black Bears in those same areas are very
>>> large.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:21 PM
>>> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
>>> Cc: Scott Ritchey
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MA invasion
>>>
>>> Correct,  except brown bears and grizzly bears are the same thing.
>>> Black bears can be black, blue-black, dark brown, brown, cinnamon and even
>>> white. ... The grizzly bear has a pronounced shoulder hump, which the black
>>> bear lacks.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>>> Craig via Mercedes
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:15 PM The color is part of the
>>>> identification of the particular species.
>>>>
>>>> Brown bears, black bears, grizzly bears, ...
>>>> ...
>>>>
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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Would you include a Kodiak as an AK brown bear?
They are a nice brown color.
And HUGE!

RB

On 05/06/2017 1:12 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

So would that suggest that in AK brown bear scat would also include little 
bells and smell like pepper?


On Jun 5, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

One thing about bears...environment has a huge influence on their size. In 
locations where they get a lot of salmon they tend to grow a lot larger. So the 
Alaskan Browns are really BIG even as compared to the Grizzlies that live in 
the lower 48! And even Black Bears in those same areas are very large.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
Ritchey via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:21 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Cc: Scott Ritchey
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

Correct,  except brown bears and grizzly bears are the same thing.  Black bears 
can be black, blue-black, dark brown, brown, cinnamon and even white. ... The 
grizzly bear has a pronounced shoulder hump, which the black bear lacks.


-Original Message-
Craig via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:15 PM The color is part of the
identification of the particular species.

Brown bears, black bears, grizzly bears, ...
...



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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Their scat has a strong odor of bear repellent.

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> So would that suggest that in AK brown bear scat would also include little
> bells and smell like pepper?
>
> > On Jun 5, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > One thing about bears...environment has a huge influence on their size.
> In locations where they get a lot of salmon they tend to grow a lot larger.
> So the Alaskan Browns are really BIG even as compared to the Grizzlies that
> live in the lower 48! And even Black Bears in those same areas are very
> large.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:21 PM
> > To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
> > Cc: Scott Ritchey
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] MA invasion
> >
> > Correct,  except brown bears and grizzly bears are the same thing.
> Black bears can be black, blue-black, dark brown, brown, cinnamon and even
> white. ... The grizzly bear has a pronounced shoulder hump, which the black
> bear lacks.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> Craig via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:15 PM The color is part of the
> >> identification of the particular species.
> >>
> >> Brown bears, black bears, grizzly bears, ...
> >> ...
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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-05 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
So would that suggest that in AK brown bear scat would also include little 
bells and smell like pepper?

> On Jun 5, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> One thing about bears...environment has a huge influence on their size. In 
> locations where they get a lot of salmon they tend to grow a lot larger. So 
> the Alaskan Browns are really BIG even as compared to the Grizzlies that live 
> in the lower 48! And even Black Bears in those same areas are very large.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
> Ritchey via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:21 PM
> To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
> Cc: Scott Ritchey
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MA invasion
> 
> Correct,  except brown bears and grizzly bears are the same thing.  Black 
> bears can be black, blue-black, dark brown, brown, cinnamon and even white. 
> ... The grizzly bear has a pronounced shoulder hump, which the black bear 
> lacks.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> Craig via Mercedes
>> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:15 PM The color is part of the 
>> identification of the particular species.
>> 
>> Brown bears, black bears, grizzly bears, ...
>> ...
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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-05 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
One thing about bears...environment has a huge influence on their size. In 
locations where they get a lot of salmon they tend to grow a lot larger. So the 
Alaskan Browns are really BIG even as compared to the Grizzlies that live in 
the lower 48! And even Black Bears in those same areas are very large.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott 
Ritchey via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:21 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Cc: Scott Ritchey
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

Correct,  except brown bears and grizzly bears are the same thing.  Black bears 
can be black, blue-black, dark brown, brown, cinnamon and even white. ... The 
grizzly bear has a pronounced shoulder hump, which the black bear lacks.

> -Original Message-
>  Craig via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:15 PM The color is part of the 
> identification of the particular species.
> 
> Brown bears, black bears, grizzly bears, ...
> ...



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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-04 Thread clay via Mercedes
The polar bear is actually a black bear

under his fuzzy suit

Black skin

Where the black bear is not black on the skin side, or is it the fur side?  
Hiawatha did not make mittens out of the bear, just the bunny.  With the fur 
side inside and skin side outside

clay

> On Jun 3, 2017, at 7:43 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>  Curley sez: 


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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-04 Thread clay via Mercedes
The usine visitors are known to hang out near the condos and sometimes the 
summer slopes down low.  There seems to be an industry in waste container 
engineering to make it bear proof.  So far none of the bear have been deterred. 
 They mess about with the dumpsters or containers and defeat the engineers 
every time.

> On Jun 3, 2017, at 1:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Like the mööse in Banff?  They walk all over the golf course greens, and you 
> can see the wacky Asian (mostly Japanese) touristas standing right in front 
> of them taking pictures.
> 
> Crazy stuff.  Couldn’t believe it when I saw it.
> 
> https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0d/18/7b/aa/banff-springs-golf-course.jpg
> 
> Never saw a bear in Whistler.  Went skiing there in June in a t-shirt and 
> shorts, though.  No bells or pepper spray, however.
> 
> -D 

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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-04 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

And both polar and grizzly are decidedly bigger  than little black bear.

BTW, the original Teddy bear, set up for TR to shoot, was a little black 
bear in west central Mississippi.



Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
June 4, 2017 at 8:21 PM
Correct, except brown bears and grizzly bears are the same thing. 
Black bears can be black, blue-black, dark brown, brown, cinnamon and 
even white. ... The grizzly bear has a pronounced shoulder hump, which 
the black bear lacks.





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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-04 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Correct,  except brown bears and grizzly bears are the same thing.  Black bears 
can be black, blue-black, dark brown, brown, cinnamon and even white. ... The 
grizzly bear has a pronounced shoulder hump, which the black bear lacks.

> -Original Message-
>  Craig via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 10:15 PM
> The color is part of the identification of the particular species.
> 
> Brown bears, black bears, grizzly bears, ...
> ...



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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
 Curley sez:
>Because little black bear is MUCH less >likely to have mao for breakfast 
>than say a grizzly or polar variety bear.
‎

Hence this posted signage

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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 19:30:27 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes
 wrote:

> clay wrote:
> > The * bears in Whistler BC are more a honey color.
> 
> So... why name the color?  Isn't the word "bear" sufficient?  Just
> like person / people.  Why does color inform me better?
> ...no, I don't really adopt this rationale, but I could...
> mao - black like me


The color is part of the identification of the particular species.

Brown bears, black bears, grizzly bears, ...

Stop being that way, Mao.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Because little black bear is MUCH less likely to have mao for breakfast 
than say a grizzly or polar variety bear.



Mountain Man via Mercedes 
June 3, 2017 at 7:30 PM

So... why name the color? Isn't the word "bear" sufficient? Just
like person / people. Why does color inform me better?
...no, I don't really adopt this rationale, but I could...
mao - black like me


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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
clay wrote:
> The * bears in Whistler BC are more a honey color.

So... why name the color?  Isn't the word "bear" sufficient?  Just
like person / people.  Why does color inform me better?
...no, I don't really adopt this rationale, but I could...
mao - black like me

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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Maine has repeatedly fought off attempts to ban hunting bears. It's a matter of 
time though, to many idiots moving in from out of state...
Curt

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  On Sat, Jun 3, 2017 at 4:37 PM, Mitch Haley via 
Mercedes wrote:   
Ontario banned the annual spring bear hunt in 1999 by popular vote (ballot 
measure). The ban got overturned after 15 years of increasing bear/human 
incidents. Gee, who would have predicted an increase in nuisance bears from 
that?

http://www.outdoorlife.com/6-reasons-why-you-should-hunt-black-bears

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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Ontario banned the annual spring bear hunt in 1999 by popular vote (ballot 
measure). The ban got overturned after 15 years of increasing bear/human 
incidents. Gee, who would have predicted an increase in nuisance bears from 
that?

http://www.outdoorlife.com/6-reasons-why-you-should-hunt-black-bears

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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Looks like  he had a busy night with all the lady mooses (or is that 
meese? Meeses?) His tongue is hanging out!  Looks like he died very happy!


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That mööse doesn’t look too good, like he had a rough night.

-D  not a Man of the North



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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

+1!

Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

--FT for prez.
mao



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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I think it happened by 2010, or was that 2000?  I forgetthe albore 
speechifying gets all mixed up!



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
June 3, 2017 at 10:36 AM
I am hoping to be able to tie up the kayaks to the back steps and just 
paddle off without a lot of drama like I have to do now, taking the 
yaks down the road to throw them in.   I could actually build a dock 
now on high ground while the water is still out in the marsh a bit, 
then when the seas rise I won't have to deal with permits and hiring 
someone to slog in the water to build it.  I only need maybe 2ft of 
rise, that should happen by 2020, right, if not sooner?


Global warming climate change disruption is my friend!

--FT





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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

that is the (Pre-buttercup) "Merkun way!!


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
June 3, 2017 at 9:57 AM
You are nothing if not resilient.


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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
How about now? 
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20161116_191101529_zpsdrxyxaoj.jpg

-Curt


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 Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 5:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] MA invasion
   
I sit corrected.  Whatever they were, they were big and looked relatively 
dangerous up close.

That mööse doesn’t look too good, like he had a rough night.

-D not a Man of the North


> On Jun 3, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Thats not a moose, its an elk. Moose antlers get palmate (filled in) when 
> they're that big.
> 
> This is a moose: 
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Moose%20Hunt%202016/DSC_0047_zpsvfogtttr.jpg
>  
> <http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Moose%20Hunt%202016/DSC_0047_zpsvfogtttr.jpg>
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MA invasion
> 
> Like the mööse in Banff?  They walk all over the golf course greens, and you 
> can see the wacky Asian (mostly Japanese) touristas standing right in front 
> of them taking pictures.
> 
> Crazy stuff.  Couldn’t believe it when I saw it.
> 
> https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0d/18/7b/aa/banff-springs-golf-course.jpg
>  
> <https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0d/18/7b/aa/banff-springs-golf-course.jpg>
> 
> Never saw a bear in Whistler.  Went skiing there in June in a t-shirt and 
> shorts, though.  No bells or pepper spray, however.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Jun 3, 2017, at 4:50 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com 
> > <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > The black bears in Whistler BC are more a honey color.  It makes them seem 
> > less threatening to visitors than a darker bear.  Also makes them less 
> > likely to be shot by police when riding a dumpster down the street
> > 
> > clay
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I sit corrected.  Whatever they were, they were big and looked relatively 
dangerous up close.

That mööse doesn’t look too good, like he had a rough night.

-D not a Man of the North


> On Jun 3, 2017, at 5:01 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Thats not a moose, its an elk. Moose antlers get palmate (filled in) when 
> they're that big.
> 
> This is a moose: 
> http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Moose%20Hunt%202016/DSC_0047_zpsvfogtttr.jpg
>  
> <http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Moose%20Hunt%202016/DSC_0047_zpsvfogtttr.jpg>
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: Mercedes List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] MA invasion
> 
> Like the mööse in Banff?  They walk all over the golf course greens, and you 
> can see the wacky Asian (mostly Japanese) touristas standing right in front 
> of them taking pictures.
> 
> Crazy stuff.  Couldn’t believe it when I saw it.
> 
> https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0d/18/7b/aa/banff-springs-golf-course.jpg
>  
> <https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0d/18/7b/aa/banff-springs-golf-course.jpg>
> 
> Never saw a bear in Whistler.  Went skiing there in June in a t-shirt and 
> shorts, though.  No bells or pepper spray, however.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Jun 3, 2017, at 4:50 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com 
> > <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > The black bears in Whistler BC are more a honey color.  It makes them seem 
> > less threatening to visitors than a darker bear.  Also makes them less 
> > likely to be shot by police when riding a dumpster down the street
> > 
> > clay
> > 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Thats not a moose, its an elk. Moose antlers get palmate (filled in) when 
they're that big.
This is a moose: 
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/Moose%20Hunt%202016/DSC_0047_zpsvfogtttr.jpg
-Curt


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Like the mööse in Banff?  They walk all over the golf course greens, and you 
can see the wacky Asian (mostly Japanese) touristas standing right in front of 
them taking pictures.

Crazy stuff.  Couldn’t believe it when I saw it.

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0d/18/7b/aa/banff-springs-golf-course.jpg

Never saw a bear in Whistler.  Went skiing there in June in a t-shirt and 
shorts, though.  No bells or pepper spray, however.

-D


> On Jun 3, 2017, at 4:50 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> The black bears in Whistler BC are more a honey color.  It makes them seem 
> less threatening to visitors than a darker bear.  Also makes them less likely 
> to be shot by police when riding a dumpster down the street
> 
> clay
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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Like the mööse in Banff?  They walk all over the golf course greens, and you 
can see the wacky Asian (mostly Japanese) touristas standing right in front of 
them taking pictures.

Crazy stuff.  Couldn’t believe it when I saw it.

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0d/18/7b/aa/banff-springs-golf-course.jpg

Never saw a bear in Whistler.  Went skiing there in June in a t-shirt and 
shorts, though.  No bells or pepper spray, however.

-D


> On Jun 3, 2017, at 4:50 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The black bears in Whistler BC are more a honey color.  It makes them seem 
> less threatening to visitors than a darker bear.  Also makes them less likely 
> to be shot by police when riding a dumpster down the street
> 
> clay
> 


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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread clay via Mercedes
The black bears in Whistler BC are more a honey color.  It makes them seem less 
threatening to visitors than a darker bear.  Also makes them less likely to be 
shot by police when riding a dumpster down the street

clay

> On Jun 2, 2017, at 2:32 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 02/06/2017 1:53 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
>> Andrew wrote:
>>> Scientists say * bears are moving into the more populated eastern half
>>> of Massachusetts.
>> There, I fixed the trigger-point.  People, bears, other words are just
>> fine without further refinement using adjectives to discriminate
>> around the general population.  Or, maybe we have greater angst around
>> bears that are black versus other colors.  Do we have greater angst
>> around persons that are black versus other colors?
>> Let's keep this list without angs.
>> mao
>> 
>> ___
> so what is this - politically correct mumbo jumbo?
> 
> Black bears are not the same as polar bears or kodiak bears or koala bears 
> etc.
> It is a name that quite nicely describes the bear in most cases (although, 
> there are black bears that are more brown in color).
> 
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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Unless a cat 5 hurricane makes a direct hit first.

On Jun 3, 2017 3:38 PM, "Mountain Man via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> --FT wrote:
> > Global warming climate change disruption is my friend!
>
> Great positive perspective.
> --FT for prez.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
--FT wrote:
> Global warming climate change disruption is my friend!

Great positive perspective.
--FT for prez.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I am hoping to be able to tie up the kayaks to the back steps and just 
paddle off without a lot of drama like I have to do now, taking the yaks 
down the road to throw them in.   I could actually build a dock now on 
high ground while the water is still out in the marsh a bit, then when 
the seas rise I won't have to deal with permits and hiring someone to 
slog in the water to build it.  I only need maybe 2ft of rise, that 
should happen by 2020, right, if not sooner?


Global warming climate change disruption is my friend!

--FT


On 6/3/17 10:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

You are nothing if not resilient.

On Jun 3, 2017 10:52 AM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
> wrote:


I'm hoping to get deep water access soon from my back deck.

--FT


On 6/2/17 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I worry for Rich and his low lying estate...

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

Never should have pulled out of the Paris Climate
agreement, the end is
beginning!
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 2, 2017 2:34:40 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via
Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

Black bears clash with Mass. suburbanitesPublished:
Friday, June 2,
2017

Scientists say black bears are moving into the more
populated eastern
half
of Massachusetts.

The state's black bear population has climbed from 100
in 1970 to an
estimated 4,500, and that figure is expected to
accelerate.

The rise has pushed the population east toward more
suburban
environments,
inevitably leading to more encounters with humans.

The state is urging people to secure garbage cans,
compost and bird
feeders.

Just last week, the governor of New Hampshire stopped
the euthanization
of
three black bears trapped in the town of Hanover. The
bears were
investigating trash cans and dumpsters (Nik
DeCosta-Klipa, *Boston
Globe*


are-coming-to-eastern-massachusetts-heres-what-you-need-to-know>,

June 2). *— NB*
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“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or
small, large or petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming
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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to 

Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You are nothing if not resilient.

On Jun 3, 2017 10:52 AM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> I'm hoping to get deep water access soon from my back deck.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 6/2/17 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I worry for Rich and his low lying estate...
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Never should have pulled out of the Paris Climate agreement, the end is
>>> beginning!
>>> --
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> '87 300TD
>>> '95 E300
>>>
>>> On June 2, 2017 2:34:40 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 Black bears clash with Mass. suburbanitesPublished: Friday, June 2,
 2017

 Scientists say black bears are moving into the more populated eastern
 half
 of Massachusetts.

 The state's black bear population has climbed from 100 in 1970 to an
 estimated 4,500, and that figure is expected to accelerate.

 The rise has pushed the population east toward more suburban
 environments,
 inevitably leading to more encounters with humans.

 The state is urging people to secure garbage cans, compost and bird
 feeders.

 Just last week, the governor of New Hampshire stopped the euthanization
 of
 three black bears trapped in the town of Hanover. The bears were
 investigating trash cans and dumpsters (Nik DeCosta-Klipa, *Boston
 Globe*
 >> are-coming-to-eastern-massachusetts-heres-what-you-need-to-know>,
>>>
 June 2). *— NB*
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> Winston Churchill:
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> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-03 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

I'm hoping to get deep water access soon from my back deck.

--FT


On 6/2/17 3:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I worry for Rich and his low lying estate...

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Never should have pulled out of the Paris Climate agreement, the end is
beginning!
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 2, 2017 2:34:40 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Black bears clash with Mass. suburbanitesPublished: Friday, June 2,
2017

Scientists say black bears are moving into the more populated eastern
half
of Massachusetts.

The state's black bear population has climbed from 100 in 1970 to an
estimated 4,500, and that figure is expected to accelerate.

The rise has pushed the population east toward more suburban
environments,
inevitably leading to more encounters with humans.

The state is urging people to secure garbage cans, compost and bird
feeders.

Just last week, the governor of New Hampshire stopped the euthanization
of
three black bears trapped in the town of Hanover. The bears were
investigating trash cans and dumpsters (Nik DeCosta-Klipa, *Boston
Globe*
,

June 2). *— NB*
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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-02 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I agree!  Black bears matter!
-- 
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On June 2, 2017 5:32:26 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>so what is this - politically correct mumbo jumbo?
>
>Black bears are not the same as polar bears or kodiak bears or koala 
>bears etc.
>It is a name that quite nicely describes the bear in most cases 
>(although, there are black bears that are more brown in color).
>
>RB
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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-02 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 02/06/2017 1:53 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Andrew wrote:

Scientists say * bears are moving into the more populated eastern half
of Massachusetts.

There, I fixed the trigger-point.  People, bears, other words are just
fine without further refinement using adjectives to discriminate
around the general population.  Or, maybe we have greater angst around
bears that are black versus other colors.  Do we have greater angst
around persons that are black versus other colors?
Let's keep this list without angs.
mao

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so what is this - politically correct mumbo jumbo?

Black bears are not the same as polar bears or kodiak bears or koala 
bears etc.
It is a name that quite nicely describes the bear in most cases 
(although, there are black bears that are more brown in color).


RB

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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I haven't seen nor drunk Kool Aid in 50 years.  Do they still make it?

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> Tin man sez:
>
> ‎>Andrew wrote:
> >> Scientists say * bears are moving into >>the more populated eastern half
> >> of Massachusetts.
>
> >There, I fixed the trigger-point. People, >bears, other words are just
> >fine without further refinement using >adjectives to discriminate
> >around the general population.
>
> Read the sign.
> There is a difference.
> Stop.
> Drinking.
> The.
> Kool-aid.
> Oh, and watch out for grizzlies.
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-02 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Tin man sez:

‎>Andrew wrote:
>> Scientists say * bears are moving into >>the more populated eastern half
>> of Massachusetts.

>There, I fixed the trigger-point. People, >bears, other words are just
>fine without further refinement using >adjectives to discriminate
>around the general population.

Read the sign. 
There is a difference.
Stop. 
Drinking.  
The. 
Kool-aid. 
Oh, and watch out for grizzlies.

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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I worry for Rich and his low lying estate...

On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Never should have pulled out of the Paris Climate agreement, the end is
> beginning!
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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> '95 E300
>
> On June 2, 2017 2:34:40 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >Black bears clash with Mass. suburbanitesPublished: Friday, June 2,
> >2017
> >
> >Scientists say black bears are moving into the more populated eastern
> >half
> >of Massachusetts.
> >
> >The state's black bear population has climbed from 100 in 1970 to an
> >estimated 4,500, and that figure is expected to accelerate.
> >
> >The rise has pushed the population east toward more suburban
> >environments,
> >inevitably leading to more encounters with humans.
> >
> >The state is urging people to secure garbage cans, compost and bird
> >feeders.
> >
> >Just last week, the governor of New Hampshire stopped the euthanization
> >of
> >three black bears trapped in the town of Hanover. The bears were
> >investigating trash cans and dumpsters (Nik DeCosta-Klipa, *Boston
> >Globe*
> > are-coming-to-eastern-massachusetts-heres-what-you-need-to-know>,
> >June 2). *— NB*
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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-02 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Never should have pulled out of the Paris Climate agreement, the end is 
beginning!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 2, 2017 2:34:40 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Black bears clash with Mass. suburbanitesPublished: Friday, June 2,
>2017
>
>Scientists say black bears are moving into the more populated eastern
>half
>of Massachusetts.
>
>The state's black bear population has climbed from 100 in 1970 to an
>estimated 4,500, and that figure is expected to accelerate.
>
>The rise has pushed the population east toward more suburban
>environments,
>inevitably leading to more encounters with humans.
>
>The state is urging people to secure garbage cans, compost and bird
>feeders.
>
>Just last week, the governor of New Hampshire stopped the euthanization
>of
>three black bears trapped in the town of Hanover. The bears were
>investigating trash cans and dumpsters (Nik DeCosta-Klipa, *Boston
>Globe*
>,
>June 2). *— NB*
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Re: [MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-02 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote:
> Scientists say * bears are moving into the more populated eastern half
> of Massachusetts.

There, I fixed the trigger-point.  People, bears, other words are just
fine without further refinement using adjectives to discriminate
around the general population.  Or, maybe we have greater angst around
bears that are black versus other colors.  Do we have greater angst
around persons that are black versus other colors?
Let's keep this list without angs.
mao

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[MBZ] MA invasion

2017-06-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Black bears clash with Mass. suburbanitesPublished: Friday, June 2, 2017

Scientists say black bears are moving into the more populated eastern half
of Massachusetts.

The state's black bear population has climbed from 100 in 1970 to an
estimated 4,500, and that figure is expected to accelerate.

The rise has pushed the population east toward more suburban environments,
inevitably leading to more encounters with humans.

The state is urging people to secure garbage cans, compost and bird feeders.

Just last week, the governor of New Hampshire stopped the euthanization of
three black bears trapped in the town of Hanover. The bears were
investigating trash cans and dumpsters (Nik DeCosta-Klipa, *Boston Globe*
,
June 2). *— NB*
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