Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
Roger - I did get a few sections to come up OK, but most did come up with page not found. Werner '90 D '83SD - Original Message - From: Roger Conlon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 4:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:59:16 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Roger Conlon wrote: http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html I tried this site in the Model 126, 603 engine and I can get the subtitle categories, but when I click on the heading I get an error message. HTTP404 File Not Found. Any one else get this to work? Roger The skinnerbox.steaky.org site CAN be browser sensitive. What browser are you using? Try this site: http://mb.braingears.com/ (it seems to like IE better than Firefox on MY machine). May relate to the installed plugins or the plugin versions (Macromedia Shockwave plugin appropriate for your browser may be necessary). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi -- I'm using Microsoft Internet Explorer. As far as the plugin goes I have not a clue there. I did get the mb.braingears site to work, but it is not near as friendly/not having the categories broken down. Roger _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
Well said Dave M.! I just love the tool, Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE John, To add to what Tom said: 1) It takes time to look things up. The parts guys don't like spending a lot of time getting info, just to have the customer choke on the cost and say no thanks. So I do all my research and pricing beforehand, and only call when I'm actually ready to order. Saves me AND Rusty a lot of time - and money! 2) It can be very hard to describe oddball parts over the phone, assuming you're not down at the local dealership where the parts guy will let you look at his EPC screen and you can point to the item in question. Having it on your own computer is awesome. 3) I like to compare parts used on early vs. late versions of the same chassis, to find interesting upgrades, or to see what parts are compatible with old/new, etc. This is something the parts guys have little interest in, especially if you're going to be buying the parts used instead of new. 4) I look up parts for Euro models in my worldwide EPC - something the USA dealers can't do. Obtaining Euro parts can be a pain in some cases, depending on if MB USA wants a Euro VIN number to release the part, etc. 5) The EPC has a reverse lookup feature that I absolutely love. You can enter a part number, and it will tell you what exact models it's used on, and show you the group/subgroup within that model. The worldwide version lets you specify which market (NA, Europe, Japan, etc) if desired, to limit results. It also allows an SA search, if you have the 5-digit SA code. 6) The EPC allows you to look up the vehicle datacard. This is great to get color codes when buying a car, or looking at ads online - you can tell if it's Tex or leather, and what exactly tan or gold really is. It also means you can check the options installed. I've done this when buying used parts, when a wrecker claims to have a Sportline steering box, I can check the VIN and tell if it has the proper codes or not. Most of the time the wrecker is wrong, it saves me a lot of time and $$$ to figure this out over the phone BEFORE placing an order. Just a few things to keep in mind... it really is handy! :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:01:59 -0500 From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any way. I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D John thanks for asking. The answer is yes I could do those things you describe and have been bothering Rusty and others exactly as you describe. But in all honesty it is my little way of being able to compare parts on eBay, get parts from junk yards, between models ect. Besides it gives me something to do. Keeps me out of pool halls and such. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 1979 240D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
Does anyone know if the EPC is available on line I have been through three computers, and three years, two versions, two copies of the same version (Aug 2002) all of Daves instructions for moving files once loaded and still cannot get the thing to work. For me not having this is like well fighting with one hand behind my back. I know the MB tech manuals are on line. Was wondering if the EPC was too. Any thoughts please. I am getting pretty desperate. Regards Tom Scordato
Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
Tom Scordato wrote: I know the MB tech manuals are on line. Was wondering if the EPC was too. Sort of: http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb.asp Tom No working EPC for years
Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:11 AM, Tom Scordato wrote: I know the MB tech manuals are on line. Was wondering if the EPC was too. Any thoughts please. I am getting pretty desperate. Regards Tom Scordato Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any way. I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
[MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE (Tom Scordato)
Tom: You mentioned that the MB tech manuals are on line. Are you refering to the mb service which charges for access? Constantine
Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE (Tom Scordato)
There are sites that bascially have the CD's uploaded I guess. Dont have any of them off the top of my head though. Constantine N. Polites wrote: Tom: You mentioned that the MB tech manuals are on line. Are you refering to the mb service which charges for access? Constantine ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE (Tom Scordato)
http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html On 2/1/06, Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom: You mentioned that the MB tech manuals are on line. Are you refering to the mb service which charges for access? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
[MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
Message: 18 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 08:03:17 -0800 From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE (Tom Scordato) http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) -- I tried this site in the Model 126, 603 engine and I can get the subtitle categories, but when I click on the heading I get an error message. HTTP404 File Not Found. Any one else get this to work? Roger _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any way. I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D John thanks for asking. The answer is yes I could do those things you describe and have been bothering Rusty and others exactly as you describe. But in all honesty it is my little way of being able to compare parts on eBay, get parts from junk yards, between models ect. Besides it gives me something to do. Keeps me out of pool halls and such. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 1979 240D - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:11 AM, Tom Scordato wrote: I know the MB tech manuals are on line. Was wondering if the EPC was too. Any thoughts please. I am getting pretty desperate. Regards Tom Scordato Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any way. I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
Roger Conlon wrote: http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html I tried this site in the Model 126, 603 engine and I can get the subtitle categories, but when I click on the heading I get an error message. HTTP404 File Not Found. Any one else get this to work? Roger The skinnerbox.steaky.org site CAN be browser sensitive. What browser are you using? Try this site: http://mb.braingears.com/ (it seems to like IE better than Firefox on MY machine). May relate to the installed plugins or the plugin versions (Macromedia Shockwave plugin appropriate for your browser may be necessary). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 01:01 PM, Tom Scordato wrote: John thanks for asking. The answer is yes I could do those things you describe and have been bothering Rusty and others exactly as you describe. But in all honesty it is my little way of being able to compare parts on eBay, get parts from junk yards, between models ect. Besides it gives me something to do. Keeps me out of pool halls and such. Regards Tom Scordato So, you're not really desperate, just trying to stay out of trouble. Parts guys shouldn't be bothered by inquiries, its their job. The EPC has been driving people crazy for years. Look what it did to Dave M. (actually, he seems to have a good handle on the EPC). Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
John, To add to what Tom said: 1) It takes time to look things up. The parts guys don't like spending a lot of time getting info, just to have the customer choke on the cost and say no thanks. So I do all my research and pricing beforehand, and only call when I'm actually ready to order. Saves me AND Rusty a lot of time - and money! 2) It can be very hard to describe oddball parts over the phone, assuming you're not down at the local dealership where the parts guy will let you look at his EPC screen and you can point to the item in question. Having it on your own computer is awesome. 3) I like to compare parts used on early vs. late versions of the same chassis, to find interesting upgrades, or to see what parts are compatible with old/new, etc. This is something the parts guys have little interest in, especially if you're going to be buying the parts used instead of new. 4) I look up parts for Euro models in my worldwide EPC - something the USA dealers can't do. Obtaining Euro parts can be a pain in some cases, depending on if MB USA wants a Euro VIN number to release the part, etc. 5) The EPC has a reverse lookup feature that I absolutely love. You can enter a part number, and it will tell you what exact models it's used on, and show you the group/subgroup within that model. The worldwide version lets you specify which market (NA, Europe, Japan, etc) if desired, to limit results. It also allows an SA search, if you have the 5-digit SA code. 6) The EPC allows you to look up the vehicle datacard. This is great to get color codes when buying a car, or looking at ads online - you can tell if it's Tex or leather, and what exactly tan or gold really is. It also means you can check the options installed. I've done this when buying used parts, when a wrecker claims to have a Sportline steering box, I can check the VIN and tell if it has the proper codes or not. Most of the time the wrecker is wrong, it saves me a lot of time and $$$ to figure this out over the phone BEFORE placing an order. Just a few things to keep in mind... it really is handy! :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 13:01:59 -0500 From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any way. I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D John thanks for asking. The answer is yes I could do those things you describe and have been bothering Rusty and others exactly as you describe. But in all honesty it is my little way of being able to compare parts on eBay, get parts from junk yards, between models ect. Besides it gives me something to do. Keeps me out of pool halls and such. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 1979 240D
Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
Johnny B Just answer the question or don't. Mike - Original Message - From: John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 06:11 AM, Tom Scordato wrote: I know the MB tech manuals are on line. Was wondering if the EPC was too. Any thoughts please. I am getting pretty desperate. Regards Tom Scordato Why the desperation? Can't you let the folks you buy your parts from look up the items that you need, for you? You will have to speak to a parts person to make a purchase or choose from items on a web site any way. I have managed to survive all these years without one. I let the parts guys be the parts guys and I take it from there.D Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
On Wednesday, February 1, 2006, at 03:07 PM, Dave M. wrote: John, To add to what Tom said: 1) It takes time to look things up. The parts guys don't like spending a lot of time getting info, just to have the customer choke on the cost and say no thanks. So I do all my research and pricing beforehand, and only call when I'm actually ready to order. Saves me AND Rusty a lot of time - and money! Very considerate of you. They do get paid for all that though. 2) It can be very hard to describe oddball parts over the phone, assuming you're not down at the local dealership where the parts guy will let you look at his EPC screen and you can point to the item in question. Having it on your own computer is awesome. True, having a blow-up right in front of you is fantastic. My parts guys are good but occasionally, they fax me a page so I can identify the item without being there. I'm good at ordering parts, I have a lot of experience in that field. 3) I like to compare parts used on early vs. late versions of the same chassis, to find interesting upgrades, or to see what parts are compatible with old/new, etc. This is something the parts guys have little interest in, especially if you're going to be buying the parts used instead of new. Oh the EPC holds a wealth of info. 4) I look up parts for Euro models in my worldwide EPC - something the USA dealers can't do. Obtaining Euro parts can be a pain in some cases, depending on if MB USA wants a Euro VIN number to release the part, etc. Oh DaveeeyyWould you mind checking a US verus Euro item for me? 5) The EPC has a reverse lookup feature that I absolutely love. You can enter a part number, and it will tell you what exact models it's used on, and show you the group/subgroup within that model. The worldwide version lets you specify which market (NA, Europe, Japan, etc) if desired, to limit results. It also allows an SA search, if you have the 5-digit SA code. I have a lot of that info on fiche, PIA but cool, especially that my reader had to be rigged somewhat. 6) The EPC allows you to look up the vehicle datacard. This is great to get color codes when buying a car, or looking at ads online - you can tell if it's Tex or leather, and what exactly tan or gold really is. It also means you can check the options installed. I've done this when buying used parts, when a wrecker claims to have a Sportline steering box, I can check the VIN and tell if it has the proper codes or not. Most of the time the wrecker is wrong, it saves me a lot of time and $$$ to figure this out over the phone BEFORE placing an order. Just a few things to keep in mind... it really is handy! I know it is handy but I see all the trouble folks are and have been having with it. This scares me because until I switched to Apple Computers, I couldn't seem to get along with my computer/OS. I could really use a copy and a How to Use It Guide that would run on my new G5 2.7 Dually. I do repair MBs professionally. It just seemed like more trouble than I could handle. Thanks for your valuable input. :-) -Dave M. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
Speaking of EPC'sKaleb, where's my EPC AND 123 manual?? geepers... ~ ~John, ~ ~To add to what Tom said: ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E '82 300D (parts or run?)
[MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE
-- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:59:16 -0500 From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB EPC Electronics Parts Catalog ON LINE To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Roger Conlon wrote: http://skinnerbox.steaky.org/Service/Library.html I tried this site in the Model 126, 603 engine and I can get the subtitle categories, but when I click on the heading I get an error message. HTTP404 File Not Found. Any one else get this to work? Roger The skinnerbox.steaky.org site CAN be browser sensitive. What browser are you using? Try this site: http://mb.braingears.com/ (it seems to like IE better than Firefox on MY machine). May relate to the installed plugins or the plugin versions (Macromedia Shockwave plugin appropriate for your browser may be necessary). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi -- I'm using Microsoft Internet Explorer. As far as the plugin goes I have not a clue there. I did get the mb.braingears site to work, but it is not near as friendly/not having the categories broken down. Roger _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
