Re: [MBZ] OT: Delta Unicycle ahanamyr

2014-08-15 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Curt wins the prize!  Actually, I didn't question what I was seeing at
first, even though the aliasing in the clouds and sky should have been a
dead giveaway (that the original image was not analog).  On further thought,
this unicycle mode is clearly impossible; the wing is at a negative angle of
attack so what's holding the aircraft up?  Not the brakes (no brakes on nose
wheel).  Not the tail (nowhere near enough lift). Apparently, somebody
screwed with the simulator coefficients to make this video (or negative AOA
wasn't modelled correctly).

Back in the late 70s a General Dynamics pilot explained a trick to a USAF
pilot who was about to do an air show.  The trick was to hold a LITTLE
forward stick force during takeoff roll and release it just as you pass
unstick speed.  Then the jet (F-16) really jumps off the runway (it's very
dramatic).  Back then the F-16 had a non-moving force-sensing side-stick so
it was very hard to know how much force is just a little and the USAF
pilot used too much and broke the nose gear.  Still, the main gear never
left the runway until takeoff (as far as I could see) even though the F-16
has a large, all-moving horizontal tail that can generate a great deal of
lift.  After burning off (and maybe dumping) fuel, the pilot executed an
emergency lakebed landing; the nose gear collapsed completely and the
aircraft came to rest on the front radome.  The F-16 canopy is one piece (no
separate windscreen) and the radome broke off and slid up over the front lip
of the canopy, thus trapping the pilot in the cockpit.  The mad dash of
emergency vehicles looked pretty hazardous to me.  One of the first  guys
arriving on the scene (another pilot and a big guy at that) saw what was
happening and pulled the radome lose by pulling sideways on the pitot tube
on the nose of the radome.   He received serious burns to his hands because
the pitot heat still on, but he did manage to free the trapped pilot, which
was good because liquid (fuel or possibly hydrazine) was already leaking
from the aircraft.  From then on, it was takeoff trim only (no forward stick
force) at that base.

 From:  Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 8:16 PM
 
 I can't tell if you guys can tell its a simulator. Somebody recorded the
video
 from a monitor...
 
 -Curt
 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Delta Unicycle ahanamyr

2014-08-15 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Precisely…….


On Aug 15, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

 the wing is at a negative angle of
 attack

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[MBZ] OT: Delta Unicycle

2014-08-14 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
For the aviators on this list:

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=315265691983609

 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Delta Unicycle

2014-08-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 14/08/2014 4:20 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

For the aviators on this list:

  


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=315265691983609

  




Wow

Good thing that front landing gear strut was strong and the tires held 
up or it might have become messy.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Delta Unicycle

2014-08-14 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

That's what happens when you stand on the brakes!

-R


On 8/14/14 5:57 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 14/08/2014 4:20 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

For the aviators on this list:


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=315265691983609




Wow

Good thing that front landing gear strut was strong and the tires held 
up or it might have become messy.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Delta Unicycle

2014-08-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I can't tell if you guys can tell its a simulator. Somebody recorded the video 
from a monitor...

-Curt



 From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT:  Delta Unicycle
 

That's what happens when you stand on the brakes!

-R


On 8/14/14 5:57 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
 On 14/08/2014 4:20 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
 For the aviators on this list:


 https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=315265691983609



 Wow

 Good thing that front landing gear strut was strong and the tires held 
 up or it might have become messy.

 Randy

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