Re: [MBZ] OT: The long awaited blackpowder pistol

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Doesn't work, there's always black on the sheet. Only about 80% of the powder 
actually burns. The traditional method is to keep adding powder until accuracy 
falls off and then dial back a bit. 

I'm going to shoot over dad's chronograph some and see where the velocity 
increase slows down, that'll be my hunting load, probably around 80 grains. I'd 
like to have the 127 grain ball moving around 2000fps.

Curt

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  On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 1:54 AM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:   > Curt wrote:

> I'm using 50 grains of powder in that but may go up
> to 60, my flintlock .45 likes that load a little better. 

I think the traditional way to figure the load is to lay the rifle
with the muzzle on a white sheet.  Increase the load until there
is lots of soot on the sheet.  That indicates wasted powder.  I
don't know how that effects the accuracy.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The long awaited blackpowder pistol

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curt wrote:

> I'm using 50 grains of powder in that but may go up
> to 60, my flintlock .45 likes that load a little better. 

I think the traditional way to figure the load is to lay the rifle
with the muzzle on a white sheet.  Increase the load until there
is lots of soot on the sheet.  That indicates wasted powder.  I
don't know how that effects the accuracy.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The long awaited blackpowder pistol

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

If anyone has a Eye Tal Yan replica colt Navy 36 available, I am 
interested.  I have a decent 44 to trade.  I prefer the 36.  It is great 
fun!  I never measured the poswder,  Just fill the cyl with FFF and jam 
the buck ball  on top.



MG via Mercedes 
November 7, 2017 at 12:35 PM
If I remember right that is just about all I could get into a Colt 
Walker that I had. That makes a right nice boom.


MG



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Re: [MBZ] OT: The long awaited blackpowder pistol

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I'm sure the Narragansett had a way to do it.

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Dammed hard skinning...
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 3:22:17 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Are they good eatin'?
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
> If I did the chipmunk would become tiny shreds. It'd be like pounding in a
> nail with a battleship.
>
> A long gun like a .22 rifle is a much better tool for chipmunks although
> they're so fast even that isn't great. My dad has gotten to be a snap shot
> on them though, he's shot a gazillion this year, apparently it was a good
> year for chipmunks. Or rather it was until they ventured into my dad's yard.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 3:16:44 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
> I wonder if you could hit a moving target, such as a chipmunk.
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:35 PM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > If I remember right that is just about all I could get into a Colt Walker
> > that I had. That makes a right nice boom.
> >
> > MG
> >
> > Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> I nearly forgot to tell you guys about my adventure with the blackpowder
> >> pistol I got with that Kentucky rifle.Sunday I spent the day clearing
> >> snowmobile trail and didn't get to the range until nearly dark but I
> knew I
> >> wanted to at least try it. I fired 3 shots, 30 grains of blackpowder (so
> >> 30, 7,000ths of a pound) with a .45 caliber round ball which weighs
> about
> >> 127 grains.At about 20 yards I kept it on a 12" target which isn't that
> bad
> >> as I couldn't really see the sights. The rear notch is too small, I
> need to
> >> take a little file and open it up some.
> >> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/ 4466/38187224826_2ce81bfe3b_b. jpg
> 
> >> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/ 4500/24370704168_0dbe9a19ca_b. jpg
> 
> >> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/ 4519/24370703748_16277d34db_b. jpg
>   So
> >> not a bad start. I fired the Kentucky rifle 5 times, its settled down
> and
> >> is starting to group but I need to experiment some more. I'm using 50
> >> grains of powder in that but may go up to 60, my flintlock .45 likes
> that
> >> load a little better.  -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The long awaited blackpowder pistol

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Dammed hard skinning...
 

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 3:22:17 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote:  
 
 Are they good eatin'?
On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

If I did the chipmunk would become tiny shreds. It'd be like pounding in a nail 
with a battleship.
A long gun like a .22 rifle is a much better tool for chipmunks although 
they're so fast even that isn't great. My dad has gotten to be a snap shot on 
them though, he's shot a gazillion this year, apparently it was a good year for 
chipmunks. Or rather it was until they ventured into my dad's yard.

-Curt
 

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 3:16:44 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 I wonder if you could hit a moving target, such as a chipmunk.

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:35 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> If I remember right that is just about all I could get into a Colt Walker
> that I had. That makes a right nice boom.
>
> MG
>
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I nearly forgot to tell you guys about my adventure with the blackpowder
>> pistol I got with that Kentucky rifle.Sunday I spent the day clearing
>> snowmobile trail and didn't get to the range until nearly dark but I knew I
>> wanted to at least try it. I fired 3 shots, 30 grains of blackpowder (so
>> 30, 7,000ths of a pound) with a .45 caliber round ball which weighs about
>> 127 grains.At about 20 yards I kept it on a 12" target which isn't that bad
>> as I couldn't really see the sights. The rear notch is too small, I need to
>> take a little file and open it up some.
>> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/ 4466/38187224826_2ce81bfe3b_b. jpg
>> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/ 4500/24370704168_0dbe9a19ca_b. jpg
>> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/ 4519/24370703748_16277d34db_b. jpg   So
>> not a bad start. I fired the Kentucky rifle 5 times, its settled down and
>> is starting to group but I need to experiment some more. I'm using 50
>> grains of powder in that but may go up to 60, my flintlock .45 likes that
>> load a little better.  -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The long awaited blackpowder pistol

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Are they good eatin'?

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> If I did the chipmunk would become tiny shreds. It'd be like pounding in a
> nail with a battleship.
>
> A long gun like a .22 rifle is a much better tool for chipmunks although
> they're so fast even that isn't great. My dad has gotten to be a snap shot
> on them though, he's shot a gazillion this year, apparently it was a good
> year for chipmunks. Or rather it was until they ventured into my dad's yard.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 3:16:44 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
> I wonder if you could hit a moving target, such as a chipmunk.
>
> On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:35 PM, MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > If I remember right that is just about all I could get into a Colt Walker
> > that I had. That makes a right nice boom.
> >
> > MG
> >
> > Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> >> I nearly forgot to tell you guys about my adventure with the blackpowder
> >> pistol I got with that Kentucky rifle.Sunday I spent the day clearing
> >> snowmobile trail and didn't get to the range until nearly dark but I
> knew I
> >> wanted to at least try it. I fired 3 shots, 30 grains of blackpowder (so
> >> 30, 7,000ths of a pound) with a .45 caliber round ball which weighs
> about
> >> 127 grains.At about 20 yards I kept it on a 12" target which isn't that
> bad
> >> as I couldn't really see the sights. The rear notch is too small, I
> need to
> >> take a little file and open it up some.
> >> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4466/38187224826_2ce81bfe3b_b.jpg
> >> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4500/24370704168_0dbe9a19ca_b.jpg
> >> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4519/24370703748_16277d34db_b.jpg   So
> >> not a bad start. I fired the Kentucky rifle 5 times, its settled down
> and
> >> is starting to group but I need to experiment some more. I'm using 50
> >> grains of powder in that but may go up to 60, my flintlock .45 likes
> that
> >> load a little better.  -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The long awaited blackpowder pistol

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

If I did the chipmunk would become tiny shreds. It'd be like pounding in a nail 
with a battleship.
A long gun like a .22 rifle is a much better tool for chipmunks although 
they're so fast even that isn't great. My dad has gotten to be a snap shot on 
them though, he's shot a gazillion this year, apparently it was a good year for 
chipmunks. Or rather it was until they ventured into my dad's yard.

-Curt
 

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 3:16:44 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 I wonder if you could hit a moving target, such as a chipmunk.

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:35 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> If I remember right that is just about all I could get into a Colt Walker
> that I had. That makes a right nice boom.
>
> MG
>
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I nearly forgot to tell you guys about my adventure with the blackpowder
>> pistol I got with that Kentucky rifle.Sunday I spent the day clearing
>> snowmobile trail and didn't get to the range until nearly dark but I knew I
>> wanted to at least try it. I fired 3 shots, 30 grains of blackpowder (so
>> 30, 7,000ths of a pound) with a .45 caliber round ball which weighs about
>> 127 grains.At about 20 yards I kept it on a 12" target which isn't that bad
>> as I couldn't really see the sights. The rear notch is too small, I need to
>> take a little file and open it up some.
>> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4466/38187224826_2ce81bfe3b_b.jpg
>> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4500/24370704168_0dbe9a19ca_b.jpg
>> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4519/24370703748_16277d34db_b.jpg   So
>> not a bad start. I fired the Kentucky rifle 5 times, its settled down and
>> is starting to group but I need to experiment some more. I'm using 50
>> grains of powder in that but may go up to 60, my flintlock .45 likes that
>> load a little better.  -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The long awaited blackpowder pistol

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I wonder if you could hit a moving target, such as a chipmunk.

On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 1:35 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> If I remember right that is just about all I could get into a Colt Walker
> that I had. That makes a right nice boom.
>
> MG
>
> Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I nearly forgot to tell you guys about my adventure with the blackpowder
>> pistol I got with that Kentucky rifle.Sunday I spent the day clearing
>> snowmobile trail and didn't get to the range until nearly dark but I knew I
>> wanted to at least try it. I fired 3 shots, 30 grains of blackpowder (so
>> 30, 7,000ths of a pound) with a .45 caliber round ball which weighs about
>> 127 grains.At about 20 yards I kept it on a 12" target which isn't that bad
>> as I couldn't really see the sights. The rear notch is too small, I need to
>> take a little file and open it up some.
>> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4466/38187224826_2ce81bfe3b_b.jpg
>> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4500/24370704168_0dbe9a19ca_b.jpg
>> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4519/24370703748_16277d34db_b.jpgSo
>> not a bad start. I fired the Kentucky rifle 5 times, its settled down and
>> is starting to group but I need to experiment some more. I'm using 50
>> grains of powder in that but may go up to 60, my flintlock .45 likes that
>> load a little better.  -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The long awaited blackpowder pistol

[MG via Mercedes]

If I remember right that is just about all I could get into a 
Colt Walker that I had. That makes a right nice boom.


MG

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I nearly forgot to tell you guys about my adventure with the blackpowder pistol I 
got with that Kentucky rifle.Sunday I spent the day clearing snowmobile trail and 
didn't get to the range until nearly dark but I knew I wanted to at least try it. I 
fired 3 shots, 30 grains of blackpowder (so 30, 7,000ths of a pound) with a .45 
caliber round ball which weighs about 127 grains.At about 20 yards I kept it on a 
12" target which isn't that bad as I couldn't really see the sights. The rear 
notch is too small, I need to take a little file and open it up some.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4466/38187224826_2ce81bfe3b_b.jpg  
  
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4500/24370704168_0dbe9a19ca_b.jpg  
 https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4519/24370703748_16277d34db_b.jpg  
  So not a bad start. I fired the Kentucky rifle 5 times, its settled down and is starting to group but I need to experiment some more. I'm using 50 grains of powder in that but may go up to 60, my flintlock .45 likes that load a little better.  
-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The long awaited blackpowder pistol

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Frankly I was surprised I hit the paper, these guns were a novelty when they 
were new and haven't aged terrifically well.The thing I like about this one is 
its the rifle cut down, same trigger system, same lock, same barrel just 
shortened, same sights although the notch on the rear one isn't machined all 
the way.
Dad has a .50 cal flintlock version he wants me to shoot. I'm not sure why 
everybody wants me to shoot these but if people keep giving them to me I'll 
shoot them. ;)
-Curt
 

On Tuesday, November 7, 2017, 10:56:42 AM EST, Dan--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 If you're challenged to a duel it looks like you'll probably win.

-D

> On Nov 7, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You a regular Dan'l Boone!  I like it!
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 11/7/17 9:26 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> I nearly forgot to tell you guys about my adventure with the blackpowder 
>> pistol I got with that Kentucky rifle.Sunday I spent the day clearing 
>> snowmobile trail and didn't get to the range until nearly dark but I knew I 
>> wanted to at least try it. I fired 3 shots, 30 grains of blackpowder (so 30, 
>> 7,000ths of a pound) with a .45 caliber round ball which weighs about 127 
>> grains.At about 20 yards I kept it on a 12" target which isn't that bad as I 
>> couldn't really see the sights. The rear notch is too small, I need to take 
>> a little file and open it up some.
>> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4466/38187224826_2ce81bfe3b_b.jpg
>>  https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4500/24370704168_0dbe9a19ca_b.jpg
>>  https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4519/24370703748_16277d34db_b.jpg
>>  So not a bad start. I fired the Kentucky rifle 5 times, its settled down 
>>and is starting to group but I need to experiment some more. I'm using 50 
>>grains of powder in that but may go up to 60, my flintlock .45 likes that 
>>load a little better.
>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The long awaited blackpowder pistol

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If you're challenged to a duel it looks like you'll probably win.

-D

> On Nov 7, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You a regular Dan'l Boone!  I like it!
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 11/7/17 9:26 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> I nearly forgot to tell you guys about my adventure with the blackpowder 
>> pistol I got with that Kentucky rifle.Sunday I spent the day clearing 
>> snowmobile trail and didn't get to the range until nearly dark but I knew I 
>> wanted to at least try it. I fired 3 shots, 30 grains of blackpowder (so 30, 
>> 7,000ths of a pound) with a .45 caliber round ball which weighs about 127 
>> grains.At about 20 yards I kept it on a 12" target which isn't that bad as I 
>> couldn't really see the sights. The rear notch is too small, I need to take 
>> a little file and open it up some.
>> https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4466/38187224826_2ce81bfe3b_b.jpg
>>   https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4500/24370704168_0dbe9a19ca_b.jpg
>>  https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4519/24370703748_16277d34db_b.jpg
>>   So not a bad start. I fired the Kentucky rifle 5 times, its settled down 
>> and is starting to group but I need to experiment some more. I'm using 50 
>> grains of powder in that but may go up to 60, my flintlock .45 likes that 
>> load a little better.
>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The long awaited blackpowder pistol

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You a regular Dan'l Boone!  I like it!

--FT


On 11/7/17 9:26 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I nearly forgot to tell you guys about my adventure with the blackpowder pistol I 
got with that Kentucky rifle.Sunday I spent the day clearing snowmobile trail and 
didn't get to the range until nearly dark but I knew I wanted to at least try it. I 
fired 3 shots, 30 grains of blackpowder (so 30, 7,000ths of a pound) with a .45 
caliber round ball which weighs about 127 grains.At about 20 yards I kept it on a 
12" target which isn't that bad as I couldn't really see the sights. The rear 
notch is too small, I need to take a little file and open it up some.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4466/38187224826_2ce81bfe3b_b.jpg
   
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4500/24370704168_0dbe9a19ca_b.jpg

  https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4519/24370703748_16277d34db_b.jpg
   So not a bad start. I fired the Kentucky rifle 5 times, its settled down and 
is starting to group but I need to experiment some more. I'm using 50 grains of 
powder in that but may go up to 60, my flintlock .45 likes that load a little 
better.
-Curt
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[MBZ] OT: The long awaited blackpowder pistol

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I nearly forgot to tell you guys about my adventure with the blackpowder pistol 
I got with that Kentucky rifle.Sunday I spent the day clearing snowmobile trail 
and didn't get to the range until nearly dark but I knew I wanted to at least 
try it. I fired 3 shots, 30 grains of blackpowder (so 30, 7,000ths of a pound) 
with a .45 caliber round ball which weighs about 127 grains.At about 20 yards I 
kept it on a 12" target which isn't that bad as I couldn't really see the 
sights. The rear notch is too small, I need to take a little file and open it 
up some.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4466/38187224826_2ce81bfe3b_b.jpg  
  
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4500/24370704168_0dbe9a19ca_b.jpg  
 https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4519/24370703748_16277d34db_b.jpg  
  So not a bad start. I fired the Kentucky rifle 5 times, its settled down and 
is starting to group but I need to experiment some more. I'm using 50 grains of 
powder in that but may go up to 60, my flintlock .45 likes that load a little 
better.  
-Curt
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